1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 26 Dec 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 715       Contents: Re: DynDNS.org client  Re: DynDNS.org client , Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL Re: GUI aplication on VMS.. Re: How to make exe return value to dcl symbol. RE: How to make exe return value to dcl symbol  Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set  Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set Re: My Holiday Wishes  Re: My Holiday Wishes  OpenVMS and Windows workgroups. # Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups. & Re: scrambled terminal output on OPA0:! Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome 7 RE: VOS (Was: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL)   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:37:52 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: DynDNS.org client$ Message-ID: <bsgogg$pon$1@online.de>  A In article <4LmdnfLp3PEJLnaiRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, "MARVIN JOHNSON"  <m68k@email.uophx.edu> writes:    , > Is anyone using a VMS box with DynDNS.org?   Yes.  N > I am wanting a client for their service. I found a Perl client available and > figured that may work (?).  F Probably.  I wrote my own in DCL, using LYNX.  When I have time, I'll C clean up the code and post it.  But I'm busy with other things now!    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:32:21 GMT > From: Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> Subject: Re: DynDNS.org client< Message-ID: <V8%Gb.2248$OQ6.1939@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   MARVIN JOHNSON wrote:   , > Is anyone using a VMS box with DynDNS.org? > N > I am wanting a client for their service. I found a Perl client available and > figured that may work (?). >  > -- > MARVIN JOHNSON >  >   I I am using a PERL script -- slightly modfied -- that connects to DYNDNS,  F ZONEEDIT and others and works with Netgear, Linksys and several other 
 SOHO routers.   H ftp.firstdbasource.com (anonymous) (don't try to use a browser - I have F not yet figured out how to tell the FTP server to set default PASSIVE 
 mode off.)   PASSIVE OFF  get DDCLIENT_VMS.ZIP  + make the appropriate edits to ddclient.conf    Michael.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 02:34:36 -0500   From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL 4 Message-ID: <1031226022919.998B-100000@Ives.egh.com>  " On 24 Dec 2003, Bob Koehler wrote:  n > In article <QP4Gb.208868$dt3.15622@news.chello.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: > >>ELSEIF <conditional> THEN  > >  > > make this ELSIF  > E >    Nope.  No need to add more computer jargon.  Ranks right next to ) >    grep.  Let's keep DCL English-based.   D I think Peter is refering to the fact that only the 1st 4 characters@ are significant (usually?) in DCL, so an existing procedure withD "ELSEIF" in it will act just like it said "ELSE".  If ELSEIF becomes6 a separate keyword, the existing procedure will break.  ? It's definitely a typo and maybe a bug if you say "elseif" when < you mean "else", but currently they behave exactly the same.     --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Dec 2003 09:58:21 -0800. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso)# Subject: Re: GUI aplication on VMS. = Message-ID: <f30679fb.0312260958.7e95cc79@posting.google.com>   e "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<3FEA49C0.7030908@comcast.net>... H > How do you get the "DEC Keypad" to work in Reflection X?   I've never  > been able to figure it out!  >  > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > y > >koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote in message news:<OUT$Wp$Ewabk@eisner.encompasserve.org>...  > >    > > k > >>In article <96faaf36.0312240232.11c885f7@posting.google.com>, avs@nikom.tagil.ru (Andrey Savin) writes:  > >>     > >> > >>>Hi,; > >>>The VXT Terminal too old and anyone has thoughts that  / > >>>possible use instead of the VXT Terminal,  ' > >>>important to there to be X-Server.  > >>>        > >>> G > >>   I've been using my VXT with my Alpha since the day I bought them  > >>   together.  Works great. > >>     > >> > > A > >Try a X-Terminal Software like Reflection X ! It works fine !   > >  > >Regards and merry X-MAS !   > >  > >FC  > >    > >     @ I am not using R-X at this moment for OVMS ! Just for Solaris ! : But I dont remember If I needet to configure something... @ In the eXcursion I needed to redefine the portuguese keyboard to use under OVMS !       Regards    FC   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Dec 2003 06:30:51 -0800. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)7 Subject: Re: How to make exe return value to dcl symbol ; Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0312260630.2fa11d@posting.google.com>   d "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message news:<NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECICEOJCIAA.tom@kednos.com>...- > I meant in a dcl assignment statement, e.g.  >  > $ sym = foo(args)  >   E Next best: Make "sym" one of the arguments and use the LIB$SET_SYMBOL E to set it. Then just run the executable with the arguments and you'll  get the same effect.   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:48:54 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 7 Subject: RE: How to make exe return value to dcl symbol 9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIKEABCJAA.tom@kednos.com>   0 I am aware of that, but I would like a function.   /* -----Original Message----- 8 /* From: Alan E. Feldman [mailto:spamsink2001@yahoo.com]* /* Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 6:31 AM /* To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com: /* Subject: Re: How to make exe return value to dcl symbol /*   /*  2 /* "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message 8 /* news:<NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECICEOJCIAA.tom@kednos.com>...0 /* > I meant in a dcl assignment statement, e.g. /* >   /* > $ sym = foo(args) /* >   /*  H /* Next best: Make "sym" one of the arguments and use the LIB$SET_SYMBOLH /* to set it. Then just run the executable with the arguments and you'll /* get the same effect.  /*   /* Disclaimer: JMHO  /* Alan E. Feldman /*   /* ---) /* Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. = /* Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). D /* Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003 /*   --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:36:08 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>) Subject: Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set - Message-ID: <878ykzog53.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   * brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon) writes:   > HSG80 dual controllers.   7 > Scenario # 1 ----------------------------------------   ( > 6 each 36-GB disk drives on one shelf.& > 3 each Mirror-Sets of those 6 disks.F > Each Mirror-Set assigned as a Unit and becomes a logical disk drive.   > [d1][d2][d3][d4][d5][d6] > [  m1  ][  m2  ][  m3  ] > [  u1  ][  u2  ][  u3  ] > [ dga1 ][ dga2 ][ dga3 ]  7 > Scenario # 2 ----------------------------------------   ( > 6 each 36-GB disk drives on one shelf.& > 3 each Mirror-Sets of those 6 disks.+ > 1 each Stripe-Set of those 3 Mirror-Sets. 7 > 3 each Partitions are created from that 1 Stripe-Set. E > Each Partition assigned as a Unit and becomes a logical disk drive.    > [d1][d2][d3][d4][d5][d6] > [  m1  ][  m2  ][  m3  ] > [          s1          ] > [  p1  ][  p2  ][  p3  ] > [  u1  ][  u2  ][  u3  ] > [ dga1 ][ dga2 ][ dga3 ]  F > My understanding is that Scenario # 2 allows for higher performance.D > 6 channels versus 2 channels.  Given you do not over-populate your > drives (obvious duh).   B Where do you get the number of channels from? Unless you split theC shelf, you have 1 SCSI bus to all 6 drives. As soon as you access a C logical unit, because of two drives on the bus forming a mirrow set - there will be access contention for every IO.   D I've not seen any testing of drives per bus with SCSI, ever. But theE pre-SCSI IO systems *all* gave peak performance with 2 or 3 units per < bus, And I see no reason why SCSI should be very different.   A To get good performance with mirrored drives, you should have the A members on their own bus, so the IO runs concurently with minimum B contion and re-arbitration. If you then want to stripe the mirrors? for performance, then you need to still keep all the base units ? on their own bus across all the stripe and mirror members. This A gets ugly pretty quickly! In you case, that is 6 shelves with one ? drive each. If you do not stripe, just run 3 mirror pairs, then C for good results use at least 2 shalves witha mirror set member on   each.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:05:05 -0600 ( From: brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon)) Subject: Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set 1 Message-ID: <03122609050515@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>   D > Where do you get the number of channels from? Unless you split theE > shelf, you have 1 SCSI bus to all 6 drives. As soon as you access a E > logical unit, because of two drives on the bus forming a mirrow set / > there will be access contention for every IO.   H Sorry, left this part out - this is an ESA-12000 - which has two chasis,+ 4 shelves per chasis, 6 channels per shelf.   / I mirror across the shelf for best performance:    s1 [d1][d2][d3][d4][d5][d6]  s1 [  m1  ][  m2  ][  m3  ]   H If you mirror from shelf to shelf you get a warning message stating your performance may be degraded:   s1 [d1][d2][d3][d4][d5][d6]  s2 [d1][d2][d3][d4][d5][d6]     [m1][m2][m3][m4][m5][m6]   I Do I understand this properly then?  Or is one shelf actually a SCSI bus?        J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:41:00 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> Subject: Re: My Holiday Wishes3 Message-ID: <3febe661$0$1181$636a55ce@news.free.fr>    David J. Dachtera wrote:D > My wish for the group and for all with whom we share this world is	 > simple:  >  > Peace in our days. > ! > Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.  Et cum spiritu tuo.    (this one was easy :-)   D. Deo omnis gloria   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Dec 2003 03:16:55 -0800. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) Subject: Re: My Holiday Wishes= Message-ID: <f30679fb.0312260316.10e3c120@posting.google.com>   ] Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:<3febe661$0$1181$636a55ce@news.free.fr>...  > David J. Dachtera wrote:F > > My wish for the group and for all with whom we share this world is > > simple:  > >  > > Peace in our days. > > # > > Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.  > Et cum spiritu tuo.  >  > (this one was easy :-) >  > D. > Deo omnis gloria   Revertere ad lucum tuum ! :-)    Fbio C.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:44:31 +0000 " From: blah@blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.com( Subject: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups.8 Message-ID: <vsqtuv0s31te2v8sdg4oi58nlekf9oqv78@4ax.com>   Greetings all,    
 OpenVMS 7.3-1  Windows XP Pro   HP TCP/IP services    B Can an Alphaserver running OpenVMS connect to a windows workgroup?D The PCs in this workgroup do not belong to a domain and therefore doE not have IP addresses assigned.  I have given the Alpha an IP address E but as far as I'm aware this is meaningless in the workgroup context.    Is DECnet a possibility?     Thanks in advance.   	Dave.     ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:01:32 -0800 % From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com> , Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups.( Message-ID: <3FEC696C.8030908@rdrop.com>   > Greetings all, >  > OpenVMS 7.3-1   > Windows XP Pro   > HP TCP/IP services  > D > Can an Alphaserver running OpenVMS connect to a windows workgroup?  9 Sure. Did you have a particular way in mind, or do we get  to pick for you?  F > The PCs in this workgroup do not belong to a domain and therefore do! > not have IP addresses assigned.   - My bicycle has tires, therefore it's red. ;-)   G > I have given the Alpha an IP address but as far as I'm aware this is  ' > meaningless in the workgroup context.   G I'm moderately sure XP installs TCP/IP by default. If you don't have a  ? DHCP server on the network somewhere, and didn't set up the IP  G addresses, then they're off in some freaky address range that MS likes  % to use. VMS comes with a DHCP server.   F If you want the VMS box to have SMB shares that the windows boxen can E attach to, Either Pathworks/Advanced Server or SAMBA will do. If you  I want the VMS box to attach to shares hosted on the Windows boxen, then I   believe SAMBA is your option.    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:42:55 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)/ Subject: Re: scrambled terminal output on OPA0: $ Message-ID: <bsgopv$pon$2@online.de>  @ In article <3FEBBDB3.6B171EFD@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>, "David J.9 Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> writes:    Q > > > > > I have a VT320 connected by an MMJ cable to a VAXstation 4000/60.  When M > > > > > in an editor, the terminal output is scrambled, like there had been O > > > > > dropouts, line noise etc.  (The cable is quite short.)  This persists O > > > > > even after SET TERM/INQ etc.  If I then SET HOST/LAT or TELNET to the R > > > > > same machine or another one (in the cluster or outside it), the terminal > > > > > works fine.   E > > Considering that once I do SET HOST/LAT or TELNET (to the same or K > > another machine) things work fine, doesn't that rule out bad grounding, J > > dirty cables, missing flow control etc?  After all, if the information1 > > is garbled, how can SET HOST/LAT ungarble it?  > I > I think that question pretty much answers itself. You're going from the A > console port on the machine to a terminal port on a server (two I > different physical interfaces), no? ...or are you saying that you can - F > from OPA0: - SET HOST/LAT to another node or TELNET to 127.0.0.1 and > have the problem go away?   G Right, that's exactly what I am saying.  I can also SET HOST/LAT to the C same node or TELNET to another node.  The problem goes away then as  well.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:29:45 +0000 * From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]>* Subject: Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome' Message-ID: <bshd9k$8kj$1@lore.csc.com>   A Um, for some bizarre reason this was NDA, obviously up until now.   G Maybe that was because it is son-of-superdome that VMS is destined for  ? multi partition environment, windjammer if memory serves right.   H However it does prove that the work VMS engineering has put in is doing + what they said it would. Well done folks...    Regards, Nic Clews   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:49:34 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> @ Subject: RE: VOS (Was: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL)9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIMEAACJAA.tom@kednos.com>    /* -----Original Message----- + /* From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com] - /* Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 7:04 PM + /* To: Chris Scheers; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com C /* Subject: RE: VOS (Was: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL)  /* /*. /* I think I have made that suggestion before. /* /*  /* /* -----Original Message-----< /* /* From: Chris Scheers [mailto:chris@applied-synergy.com]0 /* /* Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 4:13 PM /* /* To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com F /* /* Subject: OT: VOS (Was: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL) /* /*  /* /*  /* /* "Alan E. Feldman" wrote: /* /* > 6 /* /* > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message; /* /* news:<NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECICENGCIAA.tom@kednos.com>... 
 /* /* > [...]  /* /* >  /* /* > Tom Linden: B /* /* > > /* > Why not just use PL/I,which has those functions, of
 /* course, it  /* /* > > /* doesn't have # /* /* > > /* > arbitrary precision.  /* /* >  /* /* > Alan E. Feldman: /* /* > > /* Just as an aside: /* /* > > /*E /* /* > > /* Stratus VOS does exactly this for arithmetic and logical  /* /* operators. It A /* /* > > /* also does exponentiation with the ** operator and it  /* is floating /* /* > > /* point.  /* /*  /* /* L /* /* Is Stratus VOS derived from Harris's Vulcan Operating System? (aka VOS /* /* in later versions)  L No,  It was a new system written by a team with a strong Multics background.G Principal architects were Larry Johnson and Steve Webber and it was all  written 5 in PL/I and under the managment of Bob Freiburghouse.      /* /* = /* /* If so, that is one of my top three favorite CLIs.  VMS,  /* Harris VOS, andI /* /* DG AOS all have very nice scripting capabilities.  Each one has its K /* /* strengths.  It would be great to have a CLI with the best features of  /* /* each all in one place. /* /* 7 /* /* OTOH, we could just use REXX for the CLI.  <grin>  /* /*  /* /* J /* -----------------------------------------------------------------------* /* /* Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. /* /* H /* /* Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com /* /*   Fax: 817-237-3074  /* /* 	 /* /* --- , /* /* Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.@ /* /* Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).G /* /* Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003  /* /*  /* ---) /* Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. = /* Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). D /* Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003 /* --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.715 ************************