1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 27 Dec 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 716       Contents: Re: DynDNS.org client , Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL, Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL, Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL, Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL. Re: How to make exe return value to dcl symbol& Re: Is VMS 7.1-2 as stable as 7.1-1H2? Re: length of SCSNODE   Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set Re: My Holiday Wishes  Re: My Holiday Wishes  Re: My Holiday Wishes  Network games under VMS? Re: Network games under VMS?# Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups. # Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups. # Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups. ) Opportunity for DEC/Compaq/HP FS Engineer  Problem with CSWS V2 procedure using external value& Re: scrambled terminal output on OPA0:& Re: scrambled terminal output on OPA0: Re: sysman$node_table ! Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome ! Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome  vms to ALPHA/DEC migration  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:25:00 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: DynDNS.org client) Message-ID: <3FECB53B.FECCAE0A@istop.com>    Michael Austin wrote: J > I am using a PERL script -- slightly modfied -- that connects to DYNDNS,G > ZONEEDIT and others and works with Netgear, Linksys and several other  > SOHO routers.   F Before I got a fixed IP address, I tried to get VMS to do the job, butM eventually, it was too much of a hassle and just told my Netgear router to do J that for me. Since it is the netgear router that did the DHCP with my thenL ISP, it was the one who knew exactly when the IP address would change and it had a built-in DYNDNS support.  G Otherwise, you need to have a script the queries your router at regular N intervals to get the current IP address, then compares it with the old one andM if changed, you then run the script to update the dyndns.org database, and if K not changed, but enough time has lapsed since last update, you also need to  update the dyndns.org.  L And this leaves open the time period between the router,s getting an  new IPO and the VMS system querying the router and finding out that the IP had changed.    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:03:15 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL . Message-ID: <bsi463$f85$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@hp.com_remove_this> writes in article <mQuGb.11240$bn5.876@news.cpqcorp.net> dated Thu, 25 Dec 2003 05:45:54 GMT:  >Assuming you have two options : > = >1. Wait 2 years and get native floating point support in DCL M >2. Have F$MATH (with some kind of comparing ability) as limited as it is now 5 >and in two years have native floating point support.  >  >What is your choice?   J OK, new day, I'll try to be more constructive in my suggestions this time.1 I think you could make a better F$MATH than this:   0 >> >Write sys$output F$MATH("ADD","4.55","3.22")   How about this:   0 write sys$output F$MATH("(4.55+3.22)/sin(PI/4)")  K Think about how many string->float and float->string conversions that would  save.   K I downloaded a C program which does this (but not as a DCL lexical) back in C 1991.  It's called "calc", less than 200 lines of code, and has a   K /* Copyright (c) 1986 Regents of the University of California */ in it.  If L you added a choice "3. Use the calc engine for F$MATH", my answer would be a
 no-brainer.     L I'm sure that technically this would be no more work than your proposal, butI there's the legal hurdle of getting permission from UC or finding another  engine.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:08:49 GMT ' From: Don Sykes <anonymous@pacbell.net> 5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL + Message-ID: <3FECB1C8.38F8FEB3@pacbell.net>   H For my $.02 I'd like to have an implicit symbol assignment, like we have with symbol := "the string" maybe,   float_symbol %= 3.17        Guy Peleg wrote: >  > Hi Folks,  > 8 > Here is your chance to influence the future of VMS.... > M > I have investigated the possibility of supporting floating point arithmetic / > in DCL. The intention is to support something  > similar to the following:  >  > a=1.23 > b=2.44 >  > write sys$output a+b > 3.67 > A > My intention is to support the following operands : +,-,/ and *  > H > If this feature is important to you please drop me a line with a short8 > justification. Assuming the response will be positive,( > I will try to implement this for V8.2. > $ > Merry Christmas and happy new year >  > Guy    --     Have VMS, Will Travel  Wire paladin, San Francisco    (paladinATalphaseDOTcom)   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:33:39 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL ) Message-ID: <3FECB742.F75A1AB4@istop.com>    "Keith A. Lewis" wrote: N > I'm sure that technically this would be no more work than your proposal, butK > there's the legal hurdle of getting permission from UC or finding another 	 > engine.     N As an aside, my trusty old PSION PDA has an "evaluate" function built into theN OS. (Sadly, it didn't make it to the EPOC32 (now called Symbian OS and used in mobile phones).   K What this means is that any application can call that system service and it I returns the answer. So in the world processor, I can type 2+2, select it, L press <psion>E and the text then becomes: 2+2=4 with the "2+2=" pre-selected: so I could delete it if I wanted and keep only the result.  M If VMS had a similar system service, it would be really cool and applications J such as TPU, DECWRITE etc could also make use of it. (OK, so I don't think4 that they would update WPSPLUS to incorporate it :-)  K Once the system service is in place, I suspect that adding the lexical that   calls it would be pretty simple.  N An added bonus would be if the system service had built-in support for symbols inside equations.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:36:15 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL 6 Message-ID: <3FECF01F.89F6BA18@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Don Sykes wrote: > J > For my $.02 I'd like to have an implicit symbol assignment, like we have > with > symbol := "the string" > maybe, > float_symbol %= 3.17  
 Why not just:    $ float_symbol = 3.17   B ...and have DCL be sensitive to the presence of the "." implying a floating point assignment.  C Naturally, it follows that this should have an equivalent to BASICs  OPTIONs, say - for example:    $ SET ENVIRONMENT- 	[/DEFAULT=ddcu:<path>-] !*1) 	[/REAL={SINGLE|DOUBLE|G_FLOAT|H_FLOAT}-] " 	[/INTEGER={BYTE|LONG|QUAD|OCTA}-] 	[/TYPE=EXPLICIT-] 	[/PROTECTION=(mask)-]	!*2 	[/MESSAGE=(keyword(s))-]!*3   *1: Synonymous with SET DEFAULT * *2: Synonymous with SET PROTECTION/DEFAULT *3: Synonymous with SET MESSAGE   = ...and other qualifiers as per HELP Lexicals F$ENVIRONMENT(); + counterpart command SHOW ENVIRONMENT[/ALL].    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:20:35 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>7 Subject: Re: How to make exe return value to dcl symbol ) Message-ID: <3FECB432.5D5C55BC@istop.com>    "Alan E. Feldman" wrote:G > Next best: Make "sym" one of the arguments and use the LIB$SET_SYMBOL G > to set it. Then just run the executable with the arguments and you'll  > get the same effect.    K Does LIB$SET_SYMBOL allow one to set a binary integer value to a symbol, or L only strings ? (is it a question of finding the right descriptor dsc$b_dtype. to indicate that the contents are an integer ?   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:07:30 GMT ( From: "konabear" <maurert@ameritech.net>/ Subject: Re: Is VMS 7.1-2 as stable as 7.1-1H2? A Message-ID: <mq1Hb.19100$P%1.17472731@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>   J My point if you're running smoothly on 7.1-1h2, then I wouldn't upgrade toH another unsupported (by OpenVMS engineering) version and possibly expose yourself a new bug.   I If there's something specific you need in 7.1-2, then you'll want to test H the heck out of it first then upgrade, but keep your 7.1-1h2 system diskK image for a few weeks incase you run into something that causes you to need  to back out.  L Arguably 7.1-2 is more stable than 7.1-1h2, but that is theoretical based onC 7.1-1h2 being a hardware release and 7.1-2 being mostly a rollup of J patches.But that is a broad generalization; to me it's more important thatB you already consider 7.1-1h2 stable enough to not need to upgrade.   Todd  5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message 7 news:d7791aa1.0312231533.250248da@posting.google.com... 5 > "konabear" <maurert@ameritech.net> wrote in message = news:<TQ0Gb.18426$P%1.16959991@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...  > > Bob, > > L > > 7.1-2 is not supported by OpenVMS Engineering. So if you find a new bug, the K > > best you can hope for is a workaround.  I work in the CSC and I have in  the K > > past 18 months had to tell to different customers that we couldn't help  themI > > till they get to a supported version.  We at the CSC do our best with  "best : > > effort" and truly new bugs for OpenVMS 7.1-2 are rare. > > 3 > > I would not bet my business on such a platform.  > > J > > If trapped by 3rd party vendors or lack of project dollars to upgrade, I'd G > > warn my management and lock down the environment.  Theoretically if  nothing I > > changes then you shouldn't run into new bugs.  However changes can be L > > sneaky.  A file expansion here, the need for a new disk drive there, one, > > more user, a different type of report... > >  > > Todd > > 9 > > "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message : > > news:d7791aa1.0312231011.3e1b9ac@posting.google.com...B > > > anyone with lengthy 7.1-2 use have any issues with anything, > > > especially shadowing?  > B > I know all that ... we have support for 7.1-1H2 now but have hadD > no issues ever ... I assume that means 7.1-2 is on the same level!   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:16:36 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE. Message-ID: <bsi4v4$f85$2@newslocal.mitre.org>   helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes in article <bsf283$67i$1@online.de> dated Thu, 25 Dec 2003 16:11:47 +0000 (UTC):I >Automatically created versions of MODPARAMS.DAT tend to set SCSNODE to a H >length of 8, i.e. pad it with spaces if the length is shorter than 8 (IC >tend to use 6; even though I'm not running DECnet at the moment, I I >might, and IIRC the maximum node-name length is 6 and surely this should H >be the same as SCSNODE).  Is there any reason for this?  Any reason not/ >to change this and define it with no padding?    > Here's what happens if you do:  Nothing.  VMS pads it for you.  + MAZDA$ sea sys$system:modparams.dat scsnode  SCSNODE="MAZDA" " MAZDA$ scsnode = f$gets("SCSNODE") MAZDA$ sho sym scsnode   SCSNODE = "MAZDA   "  0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:12:07 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> ) Subject: Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set 7 Message-ID: <r74Hb.190066$Eq1.98@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>    John:   ' There are 2 flavors of HSG's out there.   J The BA-370 flavor has what we call "Blue Bricks" since the disks are blue,* and a bit larger than the size of a brick.I Each BA-370 encloser has 4 ID's on 6 channels.  3 enclosures makes a full  HSG of 72 spindles. ( (You do not have diskx0400 or diskx0500)  / The EMA/ESA style uses the 1" universal drives. L Each shelf is a SCSI bus/channel that holds 14 drives/spindles.  There are 4K shelves associated with a full HSG.  In this config, there are 84 spindles. L Note1:  you can also use a split bus shelf that gives you 7 spindles per bus for a total of 42 spindles. I Note2:  This is the same modular shelf that can be used with the MSA1000.   E Depending on who assembled them that week, you may have the following  config.  (bus # followed by SCSI ID) + =========================================== 7 100 101 102 103 104 105 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 + =========================================== 7 200 201 202 203 204 205 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 + =========================================== 7 300 301 302 303 304 305 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 + =========================================== 7 400 401 402 403 404 405 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 + =========================================== 7 500 501 502 503 504 505 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 + =========================================== 7 600 601 602 603 604 605 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 + ===========================================   A I have had assemblies arrived with (From top to bottom) 1-6, 6-1, 6 2-1-4-3-6-5,  and 5-6-3-4-1-2 before I re-cabled them!  I Both styles of HSG have a limit of 30 storage sets!!!  so plan carefully! B If you make 30 mirrorsets...   You can only use 60 of 84 spindles!  H If you do a SHOW DISK at the CLI prompt, you see DISKbnn00... Etc  where' b=bus #,  and nn = scsi ID on that bus. # On the EMA style, your shelf = bus.   J Before I partitioned a storageset, I would CAREFULLY read the manual aboutL the effects of partitioning and the ability of a spareset drive to replace a' disk that is partitioned.  (It doesn't)     L Now back to your question.  In my opinion, from a management standpoint, youI do not really benefit from combining your mirorsets and then partitioning F them.  There is also consistency between your HSG's.  You just make anK additional headache for yourself to track it all.  Fibre channel storage is J much faster than the old traditional direct attached SCSI.  I would try itI first to see if this is a problem before I would attempt to fix something J that is most likely not going to be an issue.  I do not think that you are; going to be seeing a performance problem based on disk I/O.   J I really recommend that you follow the KISS principle.  Let's say that you? want to present 10 mirrorsets, and 10 raidsets to your systems.    ID      Unit    Storage Set  231    D31    M31  232    D32    M32  233    D33    R33  234    D34    R34  235    D35    M35  236    D36    M36  237    D37    R37  238    D38    R38  239    D39    M39  240    D40    M40  241    D41    R41  242    D42    R42  243    D43    M43  244    D44    M44  245    D45    R45  246    D46    R46  247    D47    M47  248    D48    M48  249    D49    R49  250    D50    R50   L With 3000+ spindles, I am close to assigning LUN# 1000 on my SAN.  (Actually the EVA is starting at 2000)I Notice that the last two digits is consistent through out the list.  This @ consistency makes it a LOT easier to trace when troubleshooting.7 This way, a LUN# is not used more than once in the SAN.   J The guy that setup our first HSG used  something similar to the following. He now works elsewhere!  :-)  
 1    D1    M1 
 2    D2    M2 
 3    D3    M3 
 4    D4    M4 
 5    D5    M5 
 6    D6    M6 
 7    D7    M7  (Now it gets screwey!)
 8    D8    R1 
 9    D9    R2  11    D10    M8  12    D11    M9  13    D12    M10 14    D13    M11 15    D14    M12 16    D15    M13 17    D16    M14 18    D17    R3  19    D18    R4  21    D19    M15 22    D20    M16 23    D21    M17 24    D22    M18 25    D23    M19 26    D24    M20 27    D25    M21 28    D26    R5  29    D27    R6   @ This is not simple to follow!   We eventually renamed all of theG storagesets,and changed the SCSI ID's to match the D#'s during downtime 	 re-boots.       + Your milage may vary depending on your App.             3 John Brandon <brandon@dalsemi.com> wrote in message + news:03122609050515@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com... F > > Where do you get the number of channels from? Unless you split theG > > shelf, you have 1 SCSI bus to all 6 drives. As soon as you access a G > > logical unit, because of two drives on the bus forming a mirrow set 1 > > there will be access contention for every IO.  > J > Sorry, left this part out - this is an ESA-12000 - which has two chasis,- > 4 shelves per chasis, 6 channels per shelf.  > 1 > I mirror across the shelf for best performance:  >  > s1 [d1][d2][d3][d4][d5][d6]  > s1 [  m1  ][  m2  ][  m3  ]  > J > If you mirror from shelf to shelf you get a warning message stating your > performance may be degraded: >  > s1 [d1][d2][d3][d4][d5][d6]  > s2 [d1][d2][d3][d4][d5][d6]  >    [m1][m2][m3][m4][m5][m6]  > K > Do I understand this properly then?  Or is one shelf actually a SCSI bus?  >  >  >  > J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  > VMS Systems Administrator , > firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:36:50 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> Subject: Re: My Holiday Wishes4 Message-ID: <3fec801d$0$17138$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   Fabio Cardoso wrote:  _ > Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:<3febe661$0$1181$636a55ce@news.free.fr>...  >  >>David J. Dachtera wrote: >>E >>>My wish for the group and for all with whom we share this world is 
 >>>simple: >>>  >>>Peace in our days.  >>> " >>>Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum. >> >>Et cum spiritu tuo.  >> >>(this one was easy :-) >> >>D. >>Deo omnis gloria >  >  > Revertere ad lucum tuum ! :-)   % But before... Introibo ad altare Dei.    D.   ------------------------------   Date: 27 Dec 2003 01:08:56 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: My Holiday Wishes9 Message-ID: <bsim37$cm8uu$1@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>   4 In article <3fec801d$0$17138$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,% 	Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes:  > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > ` >> Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:<3febe661$0$1181$636a55ce@news.free.fr>... >>   >>>David J. Dachtera wrote:  >>> F >>>>My wish for the group and for all with whom we share this world is >>>>simple:  >>>> >>>>Peace in our days. >>>># >>>>Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.  >>>  >>>Et cum spiritu tuo. >>>  >>>(this one was easy :-)  >>>  >>>D.  >>>Deo omnis gloria  >>   >>    >> Revertere ad lucum tuum ! :-) > ' > But before... Introibo ad altare Dei.  >  > D. >     ? This has obviously gone way OT, but as a Theology Major with an = interest in Traditional Catholic Liturgy I find the number of @ people in this small group who are familiar with (and apparently6 still understand) these Latin snippets rather curious.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:42:06 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: My Holiday Wishes6 Message-ID: <3FECF17E.26DC2883@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Bill Gunshannon wrote: > 6 > In article <3fec801d$0$17138$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,. >         Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes: > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > b > >> Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:<3febe661$0$1181$636a55ce@news.free.fr>... > >> > >>>David J. Dachtera wrote:  > >>> H > >>>>My wish for the group and for all with whom we share this world is
 > >>>>simple:  > >>>> > >>>>Peace in our days. > >>>>% > >>>>Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.  > >>>  > >>>Et cum spiritu tuo. > >>>  > >>>(this one was easy :-)  > >>>  > >>>D.  > >>>Deo omnis gloria  > >> > >>" > >> Revertere ad lucum tuum ! :-) > > ) > > But before... Introibo ad altare Dei.  > >  > > D. > >  > A > This has obviously gone way OT, but as a Theology Major with an ? > interest in Traditional Catholic Liturgy I find the number of B > people in this small group who are familiar with (and apparently8 > still understand) these Latin snippets rather curious.  F Had I been able to afford a major institution (Illinois thinks retiredH people can afford to send their kids to college), I'd probably have been a linguist.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:38:58 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>! Subject: Network games under VMS? 4 Message-ID: <3fec8097$0$17138$626a54ce@news.free.fr>  ' Are there VMS games running in network?   J My son got Rainbow 6 Raven Shield for xmas and I do not tell you the foot., We terminate around midnite every evening...  L For those who do not know Raven Shield, have a look at www.raven-shield.com,P download the demo version (199 MB), register and play (My son's nickname is Neo)   D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:06:07 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> % Subject: Re: Network games under VMS? : Message-ID: <z93Hb.190057$Eq1.83221@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>  G Yes!   Long before TCPIP became prevalent in the PC market, there where B "networked" VMS war games/simulations that the big boys used.  TheL mainframes ran the central game processes that the endnodes attached to.  IfL you ever saw/played any of the S.S.I. strategy board games where you had theK paper tokens that you moved around on a hex grid.  Then you have the flavor K of what I am talking about.  After the PC's graphics caught up, they used a   PC front end to the VMS Backend.  J Not exactly what you where looking for...  But it was a (DECNET) networked games.  - Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote in message . news:3fec8097$0$17138$626a54ce@news.free.fr...) > Are there VMS games running in network?  > L > My son got Rainbow 6 Raven Shield for xmas and I do not tell you the foot.. > We terminate around midnite every evening... > 8 > For those who do not know Raven Shield, have a look at www.raven-shield.com, J > download the demo version (199 MB), register and play (My son's nickname is Neo)  >  > D. >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:24:57 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> , Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups.9 Message-ID: <tj4Hb.190067$Eq1.8208@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>   / <blah@blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.com> wrote in message 2 news:jcbuuvg1027lq3dnq9bai812qtrpo7bnug@4ax.com...E > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:01:32 -0800, Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com>  > wrote: >  > >> Greetings all,  > >> > >> OpenVMS 7.3-1 > > > Windows XP Pro > > > HP TCP/IP services > >>G > >> Can an Alphaserver running OpenVMS connect to a windows workgroup?  > > < > >Sure. Did you have a particular way in mind, or do we get > >to pick for you?  > 6 > Nope you're tonights lucky contestant, you can pick. >  > I > >> The PCs in this workgroup do not belong to a domain and therefore do $ > >> not have IP addresses assigned. > > 0 > >My bicycle has tires, therefore it's red. ;-) >  > Well mine's blue so ner...  K You missed his point.   Just because you do not belong to a domain does not L mean that you do not have an IP address assigned.  If you are getting on the3 internet with these boxes, you HAVE an IP assigned!    >  > I > >> I have given the Alpha an IP address but as far as I'm aware this is * > >> meaningless in the workgroup context. > > I > >I'm moderately sure XP installs TCP/IP by default. If you don't have a A > >DHCP server on the network somewhere, and didn't set up the IP I > >addresses, then they're off in some freaky address range that MS likes ( > >to use. VMS comes with a DHCP server. > F > No I don't have a DHCP server on the network. I don't really want toH > mess around too much with the network, I would just like to be able toG > access the VMS box via Telnet/SmarTerm rather than via the DECconnect G > serial cable.   Basically looking for the simplest way to telnet onto  > this VMS box.   I If you want to access the VMS box by TELNET, then you MUST assign IP's in - the same subnet to all of the boxes involved.    OR...   L Buy a Linksys (Or other brand) router that has a built in DHCP server.  ThisI also acts as a hardware firewall for your internet access!  Let it assign  the IP's for you. L You will also setup the VMS box to use the DHCP server.  I know that this is an option in TCPIP 5.1    H > >If you want the VMS box to have SMB shares that the windows boxen canG > >attach to, Either Pathworks/Advanced Server or SAMBA will do. If you K > >want the VMS box to attach to shares hosted on the Windows boxen, then I   > >believe SAMBA is your option. > - > Not really bothered about Pathworks shares.  >  > Thanks for your input. >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:45:21 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>, Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups.6 Message-ID: <3FECF241.856A5665@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>  # blah@blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.com wrote:  >  > Greetings all, >  > OpenVMS 7.3-1  > Windows XP Pro > HP TCP/IP services > D > Can an Alphaserver running OpenVMS connect to a windows workgroup?   Google for "samba".   F > The PCs in this workgroup do not belong to a domain and therefore do" > not have IP addresses assigned.   B AFAIK, there is no direct connection. M$ "domains" use proprietaryG protocols, optionally bound to TCP/IP; however, TCP/IP does not require  a M$ "domain".  & > I have given the Alpha an IP addressG > but as far as I'm aware this is meaningless in the workgroup context.    ...as explained above.   > Is DECnet a possibility?  @ Yes, but probably not what you're looking for. Read up on Samba.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:46:51 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>, Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups.6 Message-ID: <3FECF29B.33EECF01@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>  # blah@blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.com wrote:  > [snip]F > No I don't have a DHCP server on the network. I don't really want toH > mess around too much with the network, I would just like to be able toG > access the VMS box via Telnet/SmarTerm rather than via the DECconnect G > serial cable.   Basically looking for the simplest way to telnet onto  > this VMS box.    TCP/IP is sufficient.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:25:10 GMT 4 From: Operations <operationsok@cdswest.dnsalias.net>2 Subject: Opportunity for DEC/Compaq/HP FS Engineer2 Message-ID: <Xns945DB11C7A797Digital2K3@68.6.19.6>  K We are looking for a DEC/Compaq/HP Field Service Engineer in the Tulsa, OK  $ area.  Reply by email with resume.     ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:57:15 GMT 8 From: "Tom Simpson" <thomas.simpson1@nospam.comcast.net> Subject: Problem with CSWS V2 / Message-ID: <LN4Hb.143681$8y1.426900@attbi_s52>   F I have installed the latest release of the CSWS (v2.0) software and amF getting an error attempting to run the configuration utility after the: installation.   The installation goes smoothly, no errors.  K The next step (I thought) was to run the APACHE$CONFIG program.  I'm taking I all the default answers for the configuration questions and everything is * fine until I get to the following section: . D Setting ownership on files.  This could take a minute or two.  . . .  L ERROR: Missing file APACHE$SHARE:[000000]APACHE$HTTPD_SHR.EXE_ALPHA: Invalid# installation %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort   K I don't see the file they are looking for.  As a matter of fact I don't see I any files with a "_ALPHA" appended to the file extension.  Looking at the G procedure, this string is either _VAX or _ALPHA depending on the system  type.   I I'm running on an Alphaserver 1000A w/ VMS 7.3-1 with the latest patches.   J It looks to me like the file names have changed with the latest release ofL CSWS, but the configuration program was not updated to match...  Anyone else2 having this problem or am I doing something wrong?   Check for the missing file:   1 SYSMGR1K>dir APACHE$SHARE:[000000]APACHE$HTTPD*.*    Directory APACHE$SHARE:[000000]   5 APACHE$HTTPD.EXE;1        23  10-OCT-2003 15:14:11.40  APACHE$HTTPD_SHR.EXE;15                          842  10-OCT-2003 15:14:10.20   APACHE$HTTPD_SHR.EXE_ALPHA_OLD;1   Regards, Tom    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:27:17 GMT  From: notValid@yahoo.com' Subject: procedure using external value 8 Message-ID: <rd2quv4gu4dqkoneqhseqrdoppf688ljai@4ax.com>  8 can you write back to    tutor@(dont spam me)cfl.rr.com   7 got an error that a procedure using (an external value)  could not be used.E actually, the error said that the external value can only be an 01 or . 77 and can not be an 01 with elements (ie 05).      5 i need to find out why a copy lib cant be external... # 01  FNCI-FUNCTION-INFO IS EXTERNAL. " .................................^D %COBOL-E-EXTERN, EXTERNAL clause ignored, valid only for named 01 or 77 items ...   actually, its  01 fnci--- "                       05 fnci-----  < is that the problem? 01 externals can't have lower elements?   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:16:54 GMT ' From: John Sauter <J_Sauter@Empire.Net> / Subject: Re: scrambled terminal output on OPA0: 8 Message-ID: <tncpuvg19b5iccs692deqtrqa13u53qumg@4ax.com>  * Have you tried varying the interface speed' and telling the editor you have a VT100 # to see how this affects the garble?  Depending on the OPA0 hardware) you may not be able to vary the interface  speed.%     John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:08:23 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>/ Subject: Re: scrambled terminal output on OPA0: ) Message-ID: <3FECBF63.1CB5EDDE@istop.com>   N Someone mentioned that you had OPA0 physically connected to the serial port of another machine.  J This would mean that to send a "SHOW SYSTEM" command to OPA0 of node1, youI would be logged in to TTA2: of node2, do a SET HOST/DTE TTA1: which would 1 connect you to the cable going to OPA0: of node1.    Is this correct ?   K If that is the case, then you need to check both TTA1: (on ndoe2) and OPA0: / (on node1) to have hostsync and ttsync enabled.   L Once connected to OPA0: from TTA2: via TTA1:, the settings of TTA1: are just as important as those of OPA0:    N If you use STE HOST/DTE, you can press a null characer )( <CTRL 2> on a VT220)K and get to the DTAPAD> prompt and issue SHOW DTE command to see the current K settings of the TTA1: (middle) port. It should show XON/XOFF flow control ( 2 you can force it on with the SET DTE/FLOW command)  U To exit from DTEPAD> mode and go back to the data input/output, use the EXIT command.    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Dec 2003 16:06:48 -0800& From: chessmaster1010@hotmail.com (JG) Subject: Re: sysman$node_table= Message-ID: <dd3f0cb7.0312261606.22caa566@posting.google.com>    This will do what you want.   % $ DEFINE /USER SYSMANINI SYS$COMMAND: / $ MCR SYSMAN DO @'F$TRNLNM("LOCATION")'FILE.COM  SET ENVIR/CLUSTER  SET PROFILE/PRIV=ALL ^Z  E This trick causes LOCATION to be translated on the local node and the A result to be used for the DO command on all nodes in the cluster.   | helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) wrote in message news:<bsctn5$br8$1@online.de>...H > I'm looking for a way to specify logical names within sysman commands.
 >...<snip>   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:18:29 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>* Subject: Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome) Message-ID: <3FECB3B4.457B930C@istop.com>    Nic Clews wrote:H > Maybe that was because it is son-of-superdome that VMS is destined forA > multi partition environment, windjammer if memory serves right.   H Pardon my ignorance, but what is the maximum number of CPUs that VMS can support in one instance ? M I was under the (perhaps wrong) impression that VMS had a limit well below 64uL CPUs and that this was one of the reasons for Wildfires since it would allow@ multiple instances of VMS, none of which exceeded the CPU limit.  # Can anyone clarify the situation ?    N In the statement that VMS runs on Superdome, does this mean that it would have5 been a 64 CPU machine with a single instance of VMS ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:41:01 -0500i( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>* Subject: Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome, Message-ID: <3FED1B6D.4070705@tsoft-inc.com>   JF Mezei wrote:h   > Nic Clews wrote: > H >>Maybe that was because it is son-of-superdome that VMS is destined forA >>multi partition environment, windjammer if memory serves right.H >> > J > Pardon my ignorance, but what is the maximum number of CPUs that VMS can > support in one instance ?-O > I was under the (perhaps wrong) impression that VMS had a limit well below 64rN > CPUs and that this was one of the reasons for Wildfires since it would allowB > multiple instances of VMS, none of which exceeded the CPU limit.    M It's not so much a limit as a scaling problem.  VMS doesn't scale well, with aH 8-16 being a practical limit before diminishing returns makes it rather K worthless to add more CPUs.  Note that as with many things, this is not an t< absolute.  There may be an application that will scale well.  N What Galaxy did was avoid the scaling issue by allowing multiple instances on O one piece of hardware.  If, and this is a condition, if VMS clusters is a good gP environment for an application, then you could have a multi-node cluster on one P piece of hardware, with some advantages of it being one system, without the CPU P scaling issue.  Very elegant in my opinion.  Along with everything else there's N also the capability of migrating CPUs.  Very elegant.  Not disaster tolerant. Q  From a fault perspective, probably worse than multiple pieces of hardware.  But mH you could still have multiple pieces of hardware, in different physical 4 locations, and then disaster tolerance is addressed.    % > Can anyone clarify the situation ? e > P > In the statement that VMS runs on Superdome, does this mean that it would have7 > been a 64 CPU machine with a single instance of VMS ?  >     O I believe Superdome allows hard partitions.  So you could have one or more VMS i/ partitions, and optionally other OS partitions.q     Dave   -- h4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Roadm Vanderbilt, PA  15486d   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:25:25 GMTi From: notValid@yahoo.com# Subject: vms to ALPHA/DEC migrationg8 Message-ID: <9a2quv4gord4q9a3e9pl3kn07b3m5numfk@4ax.com>   Really sorry old chaps.y   I meant to say   VMS to ALPHA ; except that its not called ALPHA COBOL its called DEC COBOL)B so the migration is really VMS to DEC - but that sounds redundant.C ok. cobol programmer also sounds redundant. but that too is anothere joke.(        ( On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 03:45:40 GMT, wrote:  : >I am in the Initial Phases of a VMS to OPENVMS migration. >Is "vms" dead?e  >Would you call 99% uptime dead?E >When was the last time you had to reboot a vax (alpha, whatever) ???T >  >on the negative side, >a6 >i need to find out why a copy lib cant be external...$ >01  FNCI-FUNCTION-INFO IS EXTERNAL.# >.................................^sE >%COBOL-E-EXTERN, EXTERNAL clause ignored, valid only for named 01 or 
 >77 items ...t >o >actually, its  01 fnci---# >                      05 fnci-----. > = >is that the problem? 01 externals can't have lower elements?4 >M9 >reply  tutor_nospam@cfl.rr.com  and remove the nospam...F >t > & >On 16 Dec 2003 14:46:49 -0800, wrote: >D >>"Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<brndto$5fgp1$1@ID-141708.news.uni-berlin.de>...t >>> Tom Linden wrote:lA >>> > I do not believe it is all that important to advertise VMS,  >>>  per se. >>> >... >>> B >>> Just last week I received an e-mail from a company asking if IB >>> could help migrate their VMS/Alpha system to a PC. So I phoned >>> back to get some details;i >>>  >>> Why migrate? >>> = >>> "VMS is dead, Compaq killed it last year, didn't you knowi
 >>> that!" >>> B >>> Yet when Chris Brown was here for a visit a few weeks back, heB >>> looked me straight in the eye when he said that HP does not do; >>> product marketing so we will never see VMS advertising.m@ >>> SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THESE SMALL SITES THAT> >>> VMS IS STILL ALIVE AND KICKING! (sorry, I feel better now) >>0 >>It's okay. I can handle UPPERCASE LETTERS! :-) >> >>Alan E. Feldmana   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.716 ************************