1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 27 Dec 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 717       Contents: Apple Fault Tolerant Cluster  Re: Apple Fault Tolerant Cluster Re: DynDNS.org client  Re: DynDNS.org client , Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL Re: length of SCSNODE  Re: length of SCSNODE  Re: length of SCSNODE  Re: length of SCSNODE  Re: length of SCSNODE  Re: My Holiday Wishes  Re: My Holiday Wishes  Re: My Holiday Wishes  Re: Network games under VMS?# Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups. # Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups. " Re: procedure using external value" Re: procedure using external value Re: vms to ALPHA/DEC migration3 [xMas OT] talking about Raven Shield and such games 7 Re: [xMas OT] talking about Raven Shield and such games   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:31:04 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>% Subject: Apple Fault Tolerant Cluster ) Message-ID: <3FED433D.FB0F17A2@istop.com>   $ This may have been discussed before.  M Virginia Tech (in USA) has built the 3rd fastest super computer in the world. D 1100+ nodes. Powermac G5 computers (each with 2 CPUs 4 gigs of RAM).L Infiniband linkage. And interestingly, they have developped a fault tolerantG software called Dj Vue which allows a process to continue to run on a $ different node. It runs on MAC OS X.   Costed only $5 million.    some links: ( http://www.mellanox.com/viginianews.html5 http://computing.vt.edu/research_computing/terascale/   J I think that if their Deja Vu software works well, this could make Apple a0 serious contender in high availability clusters.  K On the BBC programme "Click On-Line" one official from Virginia Tech stated E that they are willing to give that technology to anyone who wants it.   > Does anyone have any additional information on that software ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:36:35 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>) Subject: Re: Apple Fault Tolerant Cluster ) Message-ID: <3FED4487.51DC3582@istop.com>   L Oh, there is a PDF document (probably originally a *powerpoint* presentation) that has an interesting slide on cooling.   M If they had used air cooling, it would have required fans generating winds of I 100km/h under the floor to cool that much equipment. They found a special  solution with Liebert.   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:20:18 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: DynDNS.org client$ Message-ID: <bsjisi$9us$1@online.de>  2 In article <3FECB53B.FECCAE0A@istop.com>, JF Mezei$ <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes:   H > Before I got a fixed IP address, I tried to get VMS to do the job, butO > eventually, it was too much of a hassle and just told my Netgear router to do L > that for me. Since it is the netgear router that did the DHCP with my thenN > ISP, it was the one who knew exactly when the IP address would change and it  > had a built-in DYNDNS support.  E One of my clusters is behind a router (a rebadged Zyxel) which has a  I built-in DynDNS client.  However, I find that sometimes when the address  I changes the update doesn't work.  It's not a big deal here, since I only  D use this cluster for OUTGOING access.  (I do need the address to be G updated since I often display something from a remote machine.)  I can   update by hand if necessary.  I If you need the address to be kept up to date, then I'd be careful about  F depending on a hardware router.  One should at least monitor it for a I week or so and see if it ALWAYS updates the DNS successfully after an IP   change.   I > Otherwise, you need to have a script the queries your router at regular P > intervals to get the current IP address, then compares it with the old one andO > if changed, you then run the script to update the dyndns.org database, and if M > not changed, but enough time has lapsed since last update, you also need to  > update the dyndns.org. > N > And this leaves open the time period between the router,s getting an  new IPH > and the VMS system querying the router and finding out that the IP had > changed.    H At the moment, I query the router every 50 seconds.  I was doing 30 for H a while.  I could query it more often without burdening my VMS machines $ (not sure about the router, though).  I What happens with a dynamic IP address if the IP address changes and you  G don't update the DNS?  It could happen that traffic meant for you ends  I up somewhere else!  Fortunately, http://www.dynaccess.de/ (pages only in  E German, at least at the moment) actually ENCOURAGE updates much more  E often than the address changes.  If too many expected updates aren't  D received, then the account is set to a "neutral" IP.  (One can have E notification of this sent to several email addresses so that one can  G take action, and of course one can always get the status via WWW.)  At  I the moment, I update every 30 minutes.  They support updates as often as  I 5 seconds or so.  (The only reason I don't update more often is that for  I more often than every 30 minutes they want one to use a socket interface  F rather than an http interface, and I haven't gotten around to writing E the code.  In my case, where the IP address usually changes every 24  H hours, and I know when it will change, and I will notice if it doesn't, G automatic updates every 30 minutes are enough.)  Needless to say, in a  G setup like this, a hardware router which only does an update if the IP  ! address changes is not an option.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:42:57 -0600 - From: "MARVIN JOHNSON" <m68k@email.uophx.edu>  Subject: Re: DynDNS.org client0 Message-ID: <PIKdnVPcR_v0NXCiRVn-ug@comcast.com>  K I seem to have just realized a problem with my plan. My goal was to replace F my Linux box with one of my Alphas to work as my Gateway/ DHCP Server/	 Firewall.   I I was planning on using the UCX DHCP Client, but I just read in the docs, J "If a system is running a DHCP client, it can not also run a DHCP server".  C I also have MultiNet, but their docs are similar, "Process Software B recommends that you do not use the DHCP client with other MultiNetJ components that usually need a static IP address on the same host, such as2 DHCP server, authoritative DNS server, and GateD".  I That makes me think that I am stuck with using my current Linux setup, or . using a hardware router like others are doing.   -- MARVIN JOHNSON8 "MARVIN JOHNSON" <m68k@email.uophx.edu> wrote in message* news:4LmdnfLp3PEJLnaiRVn-hQ@comcast.com..., > Is anyone using a VMS box with DynDNS.org? > J > I am wanting a client for their service. I found a Perl client available and  > figured that may work (?). >  > -- > MARVIN JOHNSON >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:00:09 GMT / From: "John Reagan" <johnrreagan@earthlink.net> 5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL @ Message-ID: <Z7hHb.2616$d4.650@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>  J "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message >G >    I still don't understand why standard C can't let us use link-time # >    constants as case expressions.  >    Neither does BLISS.   L The reason is that the compiler cannot ensure that the values do not overlap at compile-time.  K In BLISS-speak, any link-time expression would turn a CASE statement into a J SELECT statement, but there is no language definition about the "order" ofH testing case parts.  You wouldn't know what is covered by the INRANGE or OUTRANGE parts at compile-time.   $ In C, same for the otherwise clause.   John   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:53:58 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>  Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE0 Message-ID: <bsjhb5$1sf$1@sparta.btinternet.com>   Hi,   K Again not sure, but check sys$getsyi my recollection (being to lazy to look K it up :-) is that it pads with NULLs instead of only writing N bytes. I had J a problem when I was using the SCSNODE as part of a Lock Resource Name andK when the node name was under six bytes it didn't match with the other party K 'cos one process was using the six bytes returned from $getsyi  in situ and C the other was moving bytes(1:returned_length) to the resource name.    Regards Richard Maher.  7 Keith A. Lewis <lewis@mazda.mitre.org> wrote in message ( news:bsi4v4$f85$2@newslocal.mitre.org...L > helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)J writes in article <bsf283$67i$1@online.de> dated Thu, 25 Dec 2003 16:11:47 +0000 (UTC):K > >Automatically created versions of MODPARAMS.DAT tend to set SCSNODE to a J > >length of 8, i.e. pad it with spaces if the length is shorter than 8 (IE > >tend to use 6; even though I'm not running DECnet at the moment, I K > >might, and IIRC the maximum node-name length is 6 and surely this should J > >be the same as SCSNODE).  Is there any reason for this?  Any reason not0 > >to change this and define it with no padding? > @ > Here's what happens if you do:  Nothing.  VMS pads it for you. > - > MAZDA$ sea sys$system:modparams.dat scsnode  > SCSNODE="MAZDA" $ > MAZDA$ scsnode = f$gets("SCSNODE") > MAZDA$ sho sym scsnode >   SCSNODE = "MAZDA   " > 2 > --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org@ > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:36:54 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE$ Message-ID: <bsjjrl$aqj$1@online.de>  D In article <bsi4v4$f85$2@newslocal.mitre.org>, lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) writes:    K > >Automatically created versions of MODPARAMS.DAT tend to set SCSNODE to a J > >length of 8, i.e. pad it with spaces if the length is shorter than 8 (IE > >tend to use 6; even though I'm not running DECnet at the moment, I K > >might, and IIRC the maximum node-name length is 6 and surely this should J > >be the same as SCSNODE).  Is there any reason for this?  Any reason not1 > >to change this and define it with no padding?   > @ > Here's what happens if you do:  Nothing.  VMS pads it for you. > - > MAZDA$ sea sys$system:modparams.dat scsnode  > SCSNODE="MAZDA" $ > MAZDA$ scsnode = f$gets("SCSNODE") > MAZDA$ sho sym scsnode >   SCSNODE = "MAZDA   "  2 I see no padding on VAX 7.3.  I do on ALPHA 7.3-1.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:13:51 +0100 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>  Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE9 Message-ID: <bsjm7h$daf1c$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   L "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>1 schreef in bericht news:bsjjrl$aqj$1@online.de... F > In article <bsi4v4$f85$2@newslocal.mitre.org>, lewis@mazda.mitre.org > (Keith A. Lewis) writes: > K > > >Automatically created versions of MODPARAMS.DAT tend to set SCSNODE to  a L > > >length of 8, i.e. pad it with spaces if the length is shorter than 8 (IG > > >tend to use 6; even though I'm not running DECnet at the moment, I F > > >might, and IIRC the maximum node-name length is 6 and surely this shouldL > > >be the same as SCSNODE).  Is there any reason for this?  Any reason not2 > > >to change this and define it with no padding? > > B > > Here's what happens if you do:  Nothing.  VMS pads it for you. > > / > > MAZDA$ sea sys$system:modparams.dat scsnode  > > SCSNODE="MAZDA" & > > MAZDA$ scsnode = f$gets("SCSNODE") > > MAZDA$ sho sym scsnode > >   SCSNODE = "MAZDA   " > 4 > I see no padding on VAX 7.3.  I do on ALPHA 7.3-1. > 0 Interesting. Did you see my post on VAX/VMS 7.2?   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:17:47 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE$ Message-ID: <bsjpor$gjc$1@online.de>  F In article <bsjm7h$daf1c$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Hans Vlems"! <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> writes:    D > > > Here's what happens if you do:  Nothing.  VMS pads it for you. > > > 1 > > > MAZDA$ sea sys$system:modparams.dat scsnode  > > > SCSNODE="MAZDA" ( > > > MAZDA$ scsnode = f$gets("SCSNODE") > > > MAZDA$ sho sym scsnode > > >   SCSNODE = "MAZDA   " > > 6 > > I see no padding on VAX 7.3.  I do on ALPHA 7.3-1. > > 2 > Interesting. Did you see my post on VAX/VMS 7.2?   No, must have missed it.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 14:33:17 +0100 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>  Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE9 Message-ID: <bsk1th$diirn$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   L "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>1 schreef in bericht news:bsjpor$gjc$1@online.de... H > In article <bsjm7h$daf1c$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Hans Vlems"" > <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> writes: > F > > > > Here's what happens if you do:  Nothing.  VMS pads it for you. > > > > 3 > > > > MAZDA$ sea sys$system:modparams.dat scsnode  > > > > SCSNODE="MAZDA" * > > > > MAZDA$ scsnode = f$gets("SCSNODE") > > > > MAZDA$ sho sym scsnode > > > >   SCSNODE = "MAZDA   " > > > 8 > > > I see no padding on VAX 7.3.  I do on ALPHA 7.3-1. > > > 4 > > Interesting. Did you see my post on VAX/VMS 7.2? >  > No, must have missed it. >  OK, a copy :-)  K If you run DECnet then the nodename must be the same as SCSNODE. The SYSGEN H help (on VAX/VMS 7.2) states that the name may be up to 6 characters. It, also warns not to set it to the NULL string.E I never use padding in MODPARAMS but the end up in SYSGEN padded with  blanks:    $ mc sysgen sh scsnodeG Parameter Name            Current    Default     Min.     Max.     Unit  Dynamic L --------------            -------    -------    -------  -------   ----  --- ----F SCSNODE                   "XENON "    "    "    "    "    "ZZZZ" Ascii $ ty sys$system:modparams.dat  WINDOW_SYSTEM   =1G ! CLUSTER_CONFIG appending for ADD operation on 10-NOV-2001 12:46:53.54  VOTES           = 1  expected_votes  = votes  DISK_QUORUM     ="" : AGEN$INCLUDE_PARAMS SYS$MANAGER:AGEN$NEW_NODE_DEFAULTS.DAT SCSNODE         ="XENON" SCSSYSTEMID     =1026   A There is a trailing blank in the SYSGEN output, difficult to see.  As said : this is VAX/VMS V7.2.    Merry Christmas Philip,    Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:56:50 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> Subject: Re: My Holiday Wishes/ Message-ID: <3FED4952.31AAF47@sture.homeip.net>    Bill Gunshannon wrote: > 6 > In article <3fec801d$0$17138$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,. >         Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes: > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > b > >> Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:<3febe661$0$1181$636a55ce@news.free.fr>... > >> > >>>David J. Dachtera wrote:  > >>> H > >>>>My wish for the group and for all with whom we share this world is
 > >>>>simple:  > >>>> > >>>>Peace in our days. > >>>>% > >>>>Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.  > >>>  > >>>Et cum spiritu tuo. > >>>  > >>>(this one was easy :-)  > >>>  > >>>D.  > >>>Deo omnis gloria  > >> > >>" > >> Revertere ad lucum tuum ! :-) > > ) > > But before... Introibo ad altare Dei.  > >  > > D. > >  > A > This has obviously gone way OT, but as a Theology Major with an ? > interest in Traditional Catholic Liturgy I find the number of B > people in this small group who are familiar with (and apparently8 > still understand) these Latin snippets rather curious. >   H Perhaps not a coincidence. Going back to an online discussion from circaA 1997 in a general interest forum, the IT people there came to the E conclusion that the fresh graduates we would prefer to recruit for IT H jobs were Classics ones, closely followed by those with Modern LanguagesG or Maths. That surprised all the non-IT people involved, and few of the D IT folks too (myself included, but I had to agree with the outcome).  C One of the main reasons was that, as opposed to CS graduates, these G people had proved themselves capable of learning a discipline, and also " came without preconceptions of IT.  @ Not quite as I remember it (Google gave me this one, with CaesarG misspelled, so I don't exactly trust it), but something from when I was  11 years old   Caesar ad sum iam forte, Brutus et erat.  Ceasar sic in omnibus, Brutus sic in at.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:35:31 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> Subject: Re: My Holiday Wishes4 Message-ID: <3fed52ba$0$22316$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:   > A > This has obviously gone way OT, but as a Theology Major with an ? > interest in Traditional Catholic Liturgy I find the number of B > people in this small group who are familiar with (and apparently8 > still understand) these Latin snippets rather curious.  Q As far as I'm concerned, I learned Latin at school because of my parents, then I  O discovered that the Catholic religion was nice, and that its official language  Q is latin. So, as I do not like to do thinks half completed, I continued to learn  M latin. Also, attending form time to time the Holy Mass in latin helps too :-)    D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:25:09 +0100 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>  Subject: Re: My Holiday Wishes9 Message-ID: <bsjmsn$dlaj8$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   ; "Bill Gunshannon" <bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu> schreef in bericht 3 news:bsim37$cm8uu$1@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de... 6 > In article <3fec801d$0$17138$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,& > Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes: > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > 2 > >> Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote in message/ news:<3febe661$0$1181$636a55ce@news.free.fr>...  > >> > >>>David J. Dachtera wrote:  > >>> H > >>>>My wish for the group and for all with whom we share this world is
 > >>>>simple:  > >>>> > >>>>Peace in our days. > >>>>% > >>>>Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.  > >>>  > >>>Et cum spiritu tuo. > >>>  > >>>(this one was easy :-)  > >>>  > >>>D.  > >>>Deo omnis gloria  > >> > >>" > >> Revertere ad lucum tuum ! :-) > > ) > > But before... Introibo ad altare Dei.  > >  > > D. > >  >  > A > This has obviously gone way OT, but as a Theology Major with an ? > interest in Traditional Catholic Liturgy I find the number of B > people in this small group who are familiar with (and apparently8 > still understand) these Latin snippets rather curious. >  > billK Why do you find that curious Bill? Latin is still taught at school and used I in mass (Roman Catholic). Most members of the IT community tend to have a E better than average education. In the Netherlands that means that the K chances of having been exposed to Latin at school are significantly higher.  Hans   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2003 11:53:37 +0100K From: pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.68.40) % Subject: Re: Network games under VMS? ! Message-ID: <E4+oBT2NsseS@sinead>   Y In article <3fec8097$0$17138$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes: ) > Are there VMS games running in network?  > O The best networked game is DEC's Flight simulator, working on VAX and on Alpha. 1 Version 3.1 is available on olders Freeware CDs.    L You can play dogfight with lot of planes (even a Mirage 2000 and a Concorde,( however the concorde has no weapons :)).  ) You just need VMS, DECwindows and Decnet.    Patrick  --O =============================================================================== N pmoreau@ath.cena.fr  (CENA)      ______      ___   _          (Patrick MOREAU)4 moreau_p@decus.fr (DECUS)       / /   /     / /|  /|J CENA/Athis-Mons FRANCE         / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __  N BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__| |  |N 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  | |__|N http://www.ath.cena.fr/~pmoreau/            http://www.multimania.com/pmoreau/O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:09:23 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>, Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups./ Message-ID: <3FED4C43.BAE7374@sture.homeip.net>    Mike Naime wrote:  > 1 > <blah@blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.com> wrote in message 4 > news:jcbuuvg1027lq3dnq9bai812qtrpo7bnug@4ax.com...G > > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:01:32 -0800, Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com> 
 > > wrote: > >  > > >> Greetings all,  > > >> > > >> OpenVMS 7.3-1 > > > > Windows XP Pro > > > > HP TCP/IP services > > >>I > > >> Can an Alphaserver running OpenVMS connect to a windows workgroup?  > > > > > > >Sure. Did you have a particular way in mind, or do we get > > >to pick for you?  > > 8 > > Nope you're tonights lucky contestant, you can pick. > >  > > K > > >> The PCs in this workgroup do not belong to a domain and therefore do & > > >> not have IP addresses assigned. > > > 2 > > >My bicycle has tires, therefore it's red. ;-) > >  > > Well mine's blue so ner... > M > You missed his point.   Just because you do not belong to a domain does not N > mean that you do not have an IP address assigned.  If you are getting on the5 > internet with these boxes, you HAVE an IP assigned!  >  > >  > > K > > >> I have given the Alpha an IP address but as far as I'm aware this is , > > >> meaningless in the workgroup context. > > > K > > >I'm moderately sure XP installs TCP/IP by default. If you don't have a C > > >DHCP server on the network somewhere, and didn't set up the IP K > > >addresses, then they're off in some freaky address range that MS likes * > > >to use. VMS comes with a DHCP server. > > H > > No I don't have a DHCP server on the network. I don't really want toJ > > mess around too much with the network, I would just like to be able toI > > access the VMS box via Telnet/SmarTerm rather than via the DECconnect I > > serial cable.   Basically looking for the simplest way to telnet onto  > > this VMS box.  > K > If you want to access the VMS box by TELNET, then you MUST assign IP's in / > the same subnet to all of the boxes involved.  >  > OR...  > N > Buy a Linksys (Or other brand) router that has a built in DHCP server.  ThisK > also acts as a hardware firewall for your internet access!  Let it assign  > the IP's for you. N > You will also setup the VMS box to use the DHCP server.  I know that this is > an option in TCPIP 5.1 >   B Sorry Mike, I have to disagree there. the best way to do it with aE router is to assign fixed IP addresses to each computer - 192.168.1.n B for example. Then you can simply TELNET or FTP on the LAN by name.     J > > >If you want the VMS box to have SMB shares that the windows boxen canI > > >attach to, Either Pathworks/Advanced Server or SAMBA will do. If you M > > >want the VMS box to attach to shares hosted on the Windows boxen, then I " > > >believe SAMBA is your option. > > / > > Not really bothered about Pathworks shares.  > >  > > Thanks for your input. > >      --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:30:05 +0100 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> , Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Windows workgroups.9 Message-ID: <bsjn60$dgfoa$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   E "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> schreef in 8 bericht news:3FECF241.856A5665@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net...% > blah@blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.com wrote:  > >  > > Greetings all, > >  > > OpenVMS 7.3-1  > > Windows XP Pro > > HP TCP/IP services > > F > > Can an Alphaserver running OpenVMS connect to a windows workgroup? >  > Google for "samba".  > H > > The PCs in this workgroup do not belong to a domain and therefore do# > > not have IP addresses assigned.  > D > AFAIK, there is no direct connection. M$ "domains" use proprietaryI > protocols, optionally bound to TCP/IP; however, TCP/IP does not require  > a M$ "domain". > ( > > I have given the Alpha an IP addressI > > but as far as I'm aware this is meaningless in the workgroup context.  >  > ...as explained above. >  > > Is DECnet a possibility? > B > Yes, but probably not what you're looking for. Read up on Samba. > H DECnet on XP won't work because there's no support for DECnet on WindowsI 2000 and later (NT 5.x). NT4 and the DOS based Windows systems do support F DECnet and work rather well with Patworks. I do not know whether Samba supports DECnet.   Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:18:33 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>+ Subject: Re: procedure using external value 0 Message-ID: <3FED4E69.602CB09D@sture.homeip.net>   notValid@yahoo.com wrote:  > 9 > can you write back to    tutor@(dont spam me)cfl.rr.com  > 9 > got an error that a procedure using (an external value)  > could not be used.G > actually, the error said that the external value can only be an 01 or 0 > 77 and can not be an 01 with elements (ie 05). > 7 > i need to find out why a copy lib cant be external... % > 01  FNCI-FUNCTION-INFO IS EXTERNAL. $ > .................................^F > %COBOL-E-EXTERN, EXTERNAL clause ignored, valid only for named 01 or > 77 items ... >  > actually, its  01 fnci--- $ >                       05 fnci----- > > > is that the problem? 01 externals can't have lower elements?    H OK. I had a 10 minute slot to try and reproduce your problem, but didn't manage to do so in that time.   D If you could send me source examples, I'll see if I can reproduce it= here, and hopefully come up with a workaround. Please include 7 information on your versions of VMS and COBOL compiler.   D This address works, but you'll get my attention faster if you use my! first name instead of the NOSPAM.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:45:18 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> + Subject: Re: procedure using external value 0 Message-ID: <bsjgqu$1a8$1@sparta.btinternet.com>   Hi,   H Not that I know what the problem is either but my heartfelt wish is thatJ you're running the latest & greatest DEC COBOL that supports the new COBOLG standard User Defined Functions and the compiler is barfing at the word # FUNCTION. (Try changing it and see)   H Maybe theres some automagical Run-Time initialization of Working-Storage% like "value function my_func (1,2,3)"   J But what I'd *REALLY* love is that IBM (Standard?) functionality where youL can map your working storage variables to run-time allocated memory (Without& having to Call. . .Using by reference)  L Can't remember the syntax exactly but it's the opposite of SET MY_POINTER TOF REFERENCE WS_BLAH could be SET ADDRESS OF WS_BLAH to MY_POINTER. WhereI MY_POINTER is an address that could have been returned from lib$get_vm or  $crmpsc or $expreg etc  J I'm not up on the release notes so if this is already out there please let me know.  " Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year   Cheers Richard Maher  B PS. Is there a compiler directive *DC DONT_ALLOCATE to stop static8 allocation and initialization of memory at compile-time?  5 Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> wrote in message * news:3FED4E69.602CB09D@sture.homeip.net... > notValid@yahoo.com wrote:  > > ; > > can you write back to    tutor@(dont spam me)cfl.rr.com  > > ; > > got an error that a procedure using (an external value)  > > could not be used.I > > actually, the error said that the external value can only be an 01 or 2 > > 77 and can not be an 01 with elements (ie 05). > > 9 > > i need to find out why a copy lib cant be external... ' > > 01  FNCI-FUNCTION-INFO IS EXTERNAL. & > > .................................^H > > %COBOL-E-EXTERN, EXTERNAL clause ignored, valid only for named 01 or > > 77 items ... > >  > > actually, its  01 fnci--- & > >                       05 fnci----- > > @ > > is that the problem? 01 externals can't have lower elements? >  > J > OK. I had a 10 minute slot to try and reproduce your problem, but didn't > manage to do so in that time.  > F > If you could send me source examples, I'll see if I can reproduce it? > here, and hopefully come up with a workaround. Please include 9 > information on your versions of VMS and COBOL compiler.  > F > This address works, but you'll get my attention faster if you use my# > first name instead of the NOSPAM.  >  > -- > Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:49:35 GMT > From: Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com>' Subject: Re: vms to ALPHA/DEC migration < Message-ID: <jShHb.2296$ni3.1895@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   notValid@yahoo.com wrote:    > Really sorry old chaps.  >   > I meant to say   VMS to ALPHA = > except that its not called ALPHA COBOL its called DEC COBOL D > so the migration is really VMS to DEC - but that sounds redundant.E > ok. cobol programmer also sounds redundant. but that too is another  > joke.  >  >  >     D actually, what you probably meant to say was VAX Cobol to AlphA/DEC  Cobol both on OpenVMS.   Michael    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:57:35 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>< Subject: [xMas OT] talking about Raven Shield and such games3 Message-ID: <3fed9e3f$0$7135$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   / Hey, I found that: http://www.americasarmy.com/   K I do believe that this amazing game will bring volunteers to the US Army... D Try and enjoy. Full game is free. 1.5 Go on your Windaube hard disk.I (produced by UBISOFT, probably, as its chat module uses exactly the same  P keystrokes and interface than Raven Shield, and its graphic engine looks really F like the Unreal one, made by I do not know who for UBISOFT for Unreal 2 Tournament, Raven Shield and Splinter Cell games).   D.   ------------------------------   Date: 27 Dec 2003 15:10:53 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)@ Subject: Re: [xMas OT] talking about Raven Shield and such games9 Message-ID: <bsk7dt$dsh06$1@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>   3 In article <3fed9e3f$0$7135$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, % 	Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes: 1 > Hey, I found that: http://www.americasarmy.com/   D Sure glad I didn't try that URL on a PC.  I didn't stick around longB enough to see what it was trying to do but it opened about a dozen different browser windows.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  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