1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 29 Dec 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 720       Contents:+ A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit / Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit / Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit / Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit / Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit A Re: Actual code and error message: procedure using external value  Re: DCL user info , Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL, Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL# ForSale: PowerStorm 3D30 (PBXGB-AA)  Re: length of SCSNODE   Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set  Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set OpenMotif on ClosedVMS Re: OpenMotif on ClosedVMS Re: OpenMotif on ClosedVMS2 OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web)6 Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web)6 Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web)6 Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web)B Re: Problems with CDRecord and a (new) Yamaha CRW-F1 SCSI recorder Samba for OpenVMS  Re: Samba for OpenVMS  Re: Samba for OpenVMS ( Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS( Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS( Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS( Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS! Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:39:44 -0600 0 From: Keith Brown <kbrown2720@NOSPAMcomcast.net>4 Subject: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit0 Message-ID: <PLWdnbWAGfOLrnKiRVn-sA@comcast.com>  / The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft   ) http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13350        --   Keith Brown    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:16:19 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>8 Subject: Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit) Message-ID: <3FEF562E.1A89C821@istop.com>    Keith Brown wrote:1 > The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft + > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13350     H Many thanks. This is great news. Unfortunatly, the article is more of anE opinion than a fact (even though I happen to agree with the opinion).   L I think that Microsoft's decay isn't going to be as fast as one would be led to believe in that article.   K Where I think that writer got it right is that a lot of people are now in a I wait-and-see attitude. The minute hard numbers start to show a decline in N Microsoft's market share, Gartbner types will start issuing recommendations toL jump ship, predicting the sinking of Microsoft. (geez, that sounds familiar, doesn't it ?).  I There is one thing I will grant Bill Gates: he revolutionlised pricing of M software. DEC's $6000 C compiler couldn't even come close to Microsoft's $600 K compiler. It is ironic that now that it has a monopoly, it isn't working to G lower prices anymore and that will be its undoing, just like it was the  undoing of Digital.   H Microsoft needs to drop its "luxury" and become a lean and mean low costK producer. The problem is that its hands are now too tied to Wall Street and J investors who expect return on investment. It would be very hard for MS toN convince Wall Street that dropping by half the price of Office would be a goodN thing if the net result would be less dividends (but a necessary evil for long term survival of company).  M Another problem is ego. For Microsoft to start taking very visible actions to M compete against Linux, it would be tantamount to a very public admission that L Microsoft is vulnerable. That would push more customers to jump ship. On theG other hand, this would be a great ploy to get rid of anti-trust issues.   M For someone like Digital, lowering prices would have given the possibility of L higher volumes because Digital never took advantage of the booming markets. H But Microsoft has garnered the market which really won't gow much in the- western world because penetration has peaked.   K So for Microsoft, the entry of a competitor means reduced volumes. Reducing G prices will only reduce the losses in volumes. It won't cause increased / volumes. That is tought to sell to Wall Street.   E I have a feelling that if MS were still in the hands of Gates with no F obligatiosn to its employees and Wall Street, Gates would not have anyJ problems lowering his prices. But his obligations towards shareholders and employees tie his hands down.   I Microsoft's fall could be very dramatic. In the early 1990s, MS relied in N growth in customer base, with customers switching to MS desktops and migration from CC mail to MS mail etc.  M Then, between 1996 and 2000, Microsoft relied on computer replacements. First N because of Windows 95 requiring bigger machines, and then because Win95 wasn't Y2K compliant.  J But now, there are no artificial creators of demand and the only sales areM really for regular replacement of computers due to age. Licensing changes for M XP show that MS is aware of this change and that it needs to start generating - recurring revenus from customers for support.   6 The arrival of Linux comes are a very bad time for MS.  N Whgat I find fascinating is that the natural replacement for desktops is neverM really mentioned: Apple. Perhaps because Apple isn't cheaper than MS. I think S Apple would have enournous potential if it started to price itself under Microsoft.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:18:47 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>8 Subject: Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit0 Message-ID: <3FEF80F7.3BB9D45E@sture.homeip.net>   JF Mezei wrote:   P > Whgat I find fascinating is that the natural replacement for desktops is neverO > really mentioned: Apple. Perhaps because Apple isn't cheaper than MS. I think U > Apple would have enournous potential if it started to price itself under Microsoft.   C But Apple are getting there. A couple of weeks ago, a colleague was F calling them expensive. I showed him the Dell laptop adverts in one ofG the free newspapers here, then took him to the Apple website and priced  up a similar system.  A Very little difference in price. But whoops. the Apple comes with 4 compilers, X11, and a lot of open source runs on it.   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:24:29 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>8 Subject: Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit6 Message-ID: <3FEF905D.D23D9DDD@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Keith Brown wrote: > 1 > The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft  > + > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13350   C I found this passage strikingly similar to the company line at VMS,  Inc.:   H "He didn't get it. No, more than that, he was impervious to the things IC was saying to him, the culture is so ingrained that the truth can't  penetrate it. "    Take what lesson you will...   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:35:53 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>8 Subject: Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit6 Message-ID: <3FEF9309.BD653BBA@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   JF Mezei wrote:  >  > Keith Brown wrote:3 > > The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft - > > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13350  > J > Many thanks. This is great news. Unfortunatly, the article is more of anG > opinion than a fact (even though I happen to agree with the opinion).   H I didn't take it as opinion so much as reflection. Charlie D. is lookingH at what's happening in the industry and reflecting what he sees, colored by his own sense of vision.   N > I think that Microsoft's decay isn't going to be as fast as one would be led > to believe in that article.   G I didn't see that "fast" was indicated, or even intimated. This version B of "rome" wasn't built in a day, either; rather, it evolved over aC decade or more. Like VMS, Micro$hit will likely be around come 2014 B (even if I'm not), but also like VMS, a shadow of its former self.  M > Where I think that writer got it right is that a lot of people are now in a  > wait-and-see attitude.  C Personally, as an entrepreneur, I'm seeing indications growing much C faster than I expected, pointing to opportunities that to date have : garnered little or no support in the investment community.  G Between that and the new house (see the personal side of my website, in F the picture gallery under "Our New Home"), I'm getting rather excited!   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:00:36 GMT 6 From: Jeffrey Coffield <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com>J Subject: Re: Actual code and error message: procedure using external value; Message-ID: <oLFHb.2802$EV1.530@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>    notValid@yahoo.com wrote:  > Code consisted of: >  > linkage section. > copy  "nameofcopylib"  >  > where the copylib has + >       01  FNCI-FUNCTION-INFO IS EXTERNAL. 4 >             05 fnci-lower-element stuff pic x().  & > 	all elements add up to 117 char.... > - > Procedure division using fnc-function-info.  >  > AND HERE IS THE Error message  >  > % > 01  FNCI-FUNCTION-INFO IS EXTERNAL. H >                   %COBOL-E-EXTERN, EXTERNAL valid only for named 01 or > 77 > F According to my Cobol manual: "The EXTERNAL clause can appear only in A File Description entries or in Record Description entries in the   Working-Storage Section".   G The code example says "linkage section" which appears to be some place  H else in the program. All uses of EXTERNAL I can find in actual programs ; are in the "WORKING-STORAGE SECTION." or in a FD statement.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:49:41 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: DCL user info6 Message-ID: <3FEF8835.94C67D54@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Wayne Sewell wrote:  > C > >From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>  > >  > >NEILFREE wrote: > >>O > >> Can anyone tell me why the "OWNER" argument with F$GETJPI returns nothing?  > >>+ > >> $WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETJPI("","OWNER")  > >  > >According to: > > H > >http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/9996/9996pro_031.html#green_19 > > H > >..."OWNER" returns "Process identification number of process owner. " > >  > >Example: / > >$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETJPI("","OWNER"),""""  > >"
 > >$ spawn, > >%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process DJESYS_67 spawned> > >%DCL-S-ATTACHED, terminal now attached to process DJESYS_67/ > >$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETJPI("","OWNER"),""""  > >226038B6" > > C > >Apparently, the same as MASTER_PID, at least in case of a SPAWN.  > > 1 > >What piece of info are you trying to retrieve?  > >  > Q > Perhaps he was expecting the contents of the UAF "Owner:" field for the account   > the process was running under.  / F$GETUAI() has been suggested to fill this gap.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 16:16:33 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL ) Message-ID: <3FEF4831.B4BD3706@istop.com>    Guy Peleg wrote:B > DCL symbols are linked to each other using a doubly linked list.B > Each symbol contains a name field, value field and a type field.  G In the case of a string content, is the "value field" some pointer to a N descriptor structure which then has a pointer to the actual character string ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:45:27 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL 6 Message-ID: <3FEF8736.16BB6904@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Don Sykes wrote: > [snip]H > Even better, I think, as a superset of the existing "set process". SetI > environment should provide all the options of the existing set process.   > Set process could also include >         /float_mask=0.00000 ) >         /float_round_style=up/down/none C > which would determine how floating point values were displayed by 
 > default.  B If you Google for this topic, you'll find a post or two where in IH suggest a new lexical F$FORMAT() to emulate (or provide an interface to)? the BAS$FORMAT routine which powers BASIC's FORMAT$() built-in.    Example:
 $ a = 155./2. , $ write sys$output f$format( a, "#,###.##" )   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:06:35 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> , Subject: ForSale: PowerStorm 3D30 (PBXGB-AA)' Message-ID: <3FEF45DB.14ACCEF4@aaa.com>    Hi. 0 Just got my "new" PWS433au, and I don't need the5 graphic card. It's up on eBay with item # 3068597503.    Take a look if you need one !    Regards 	 Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 05:44:07 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE$ Message-ID: <bsoev7$4t9$1@online.de>  @ In article <1031228084110.998A-100000@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> writes:     > I *DO* see padding on VAX 7.3  >  > $ show sys/nopr I > OpenVMS V7.3  on node BIRD  28-DEC-2003 08:42:43.14  Uptime  5 03:44:32  > $ show cpu   I don't!  ! SYSMAN> do mc sysgen show scsnode 2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAHF SCSNODE                   "ELIJAH"    "    "    "    "    "ZZZZ" Ascii2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEELF SCSNODE                   "DANEEL"    "    "    "    "    "ZZZZ" Ascii2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIAG SCSNODE                 "GLADIA  "    "    "    "    "     "ZZZZ" Ascii    SYSMAN> do sh sys/noproc2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAHI OpenVMS V7.3  on node ELIJAH  29-DEC-2003 06:44:09.38  Uptime  8 21:29:21 2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEELI OpenVMS V7.3  on node DANEEL  29-DEC-2003 06:43:57.19  Uptime  8 08:13:35 2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIAK OpenVMS V7.3-1  on node GLADIA  29-DEC-2003 06:44:12.40  Uptime  7 23:40:19   / SYSMAN> do write sys$output f$getsyi("hw_name") 2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAH VAXstation 4000-602 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEEL
 VAX 4000-100A 2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIA DEC 3000 - M300LX    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Dec 2003 13:24:01 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) ) Subject: Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0312281324.6b3a7799@posting.google.com>   a brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon) wrote in message news:<03122517205931@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>... I > My understanding is that Scenario # 2 allows for higher performance.  6  > channels versus 2 channels.   A Assumption here is that the I/O loads to the 3 external units are ? unequal (which often tends to be the case in practice), so that D whichever of the 3 units is busiest at a given time gets to use moreD of the actuators on the average to do its I/Os. In the extreme case,B where only 1 of the 3 units is active for I/Os at a time, that oneE unit gets 3 times the number of spindles to satisfy its I/O requests.   < If the I/O load to all 3 partitions is equal, then you might? theoretically suffer somewhat from head thrashing between the 3 F partitions, whereas on a single disk the head might tend to hover over) the single hottest area most of the time.   C In general, I think the 3 partitions would be best, since I/O loads , are seldom balanced among units in practice.  L > Is it also more efficient because the I/O to the drives in a partition areR > combined?  For example, applications write to the devices DGA1, DGA2, and DGA3.  >  > WRITE DGA1 > WRITE DGA2 > WRITE DGA3 > A > Would the three events be one I/O or three I/O for a partition?   E Three I/Os.  The units appear as different disks to VMS, so VMS won't C combine them. The controller can consolidate sequential writes, but B there's essentially zero chance of that occurring across differentC partitions, since  each partition is allocated in contiguous blocks A across the disk surface, not interspersed or interleaved with the  other partitions.    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Dec 2003 13:33:54 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) ) Subject: Re: Mirror-Set vs. Partition-Set = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0312281333.7dedeca9@posting.google.com>   d "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<r74Hb.190066$Eq1.98@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...L > Before I partitioned a storageset, I would CAREFULLY read the manual aboutN > the effects of partitioning and the ability of a spareset drive to replace a) > disk that is partitioned.  (It doesn't)    This doesn't make sense to me.  B If you have a mirrorset, and a member disk fails, that disk can beA replaced with a disk from the spareset.  This works regardless of F whether the mirrorset is partitioned or not. (The spareset member doesE need to be the same size disk (or larger) as the smallest disk in the F mirrorset, of course, not just the size of any individual partition on the mirrorset.)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:52:11 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: OpenMotif on ClosedVMS ) Message-ID: <3FEF5E94.68EBE38D@istop.com>   N Does anyone know what the scoop is on what will happen to Motif on proprietaryL platforms such as ClosedVMS and HP-UX (and Solaris for that matter) now thatL Motif has become an open source project destined for open source platforms ?  M Does HP have a deal that will allow openMotif to be used on proprietary HP-UX  and ClosedVMS platforms ?   L If ClosedVMS management won't allocate resources to bring Xwindows on VMS upJ to speed with the rest of the world, are there any chances that they wouldI make available the source to the VMS specific Motif widgets (such as file I selection, the SVN and decwindows stuff)  so that at least hobyists could  build OpenMotif on VMS ?   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Dec 2003 19:45:18 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) # Subject: Re: OpenMotif on ClosedVMS = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0312281945.4b978161@posting.google.com>   [ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message news:<3FEF5E94.68EBE38D@istop.com>... P > Does anyone know what the scoop is on what will happen to Motif on proprietaryN > platforms such as ClosedVMS and HP-UX (and Solaris for that matter) now thatN > Motif has become an open source project destined for open source platforms ? > O > Does HP have a deal that will allow openMotif to be used on proprietary HP-UX  > and ClosedVMS platforms ?   = You seem to be making a couple of incorrect assumptions here: $ 1) OpenMotif is different from MotifB 2) OpenMotif isn't available for non-Open-Source operating systems1 These are not true. There's a good explanation at D http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ -- particularly the FAQ document0 at http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/faq.html :  
 "QUESTION:  ; What is Open Motif? How does it differ from standard Motif?    ANSWER:   @ For the current stable 2.1.30 release, aside from some differentE copyright and license statements, both Motif and Open Motif share the B same functionality and source code. The primary difference betweenC Open Motif and the commercial product is the software license. Open D Motif source code and binaries can be distributed royalty free underB The Open Group Public License as long as the operating system uponC which Open Motif is running meets the OSI's Open Source Definition. > Motif is made available under the standard Open Group softwareC licenses and requires the payment of source code and royalty fees."   @ So OpenMotif is the same code as Motif, just distributed under aA different license, and OpenMotif IS available for other operating B systems -- you just have to pay royalty/license fees just like you= always did before for Motif.  If you're using OpenMotif on an 2 Open-Source operating system, you get it for free.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:24:52 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com># Subject: Re: OpenMotif on ClosedVMS ) Message-ID: <3FEFBA83.24C86DDE@istop.com>    Keith Parris wrote: 3 > These are not true. There's a good explanation at F > http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ -- particularly the FAQ document  I thanks for pointer. I had gone to openmotif.org and didn't find anything.   B > For the current stable 2.1.30 release, aside from some differentG > copyright and license statements, both Motif and Open Motif share the % > same functionality and source code.   E Is there a commitment that the code base will continue to be shared ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:19:36 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> ; Subject: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web) 9 Message-ID: <bsnaib$efcp9$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>   G Did anyone manage to download the "HP OpenVMS Guide to System Security" C from <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/os732_index.html> successfully?   E At <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/> it is listed G with a file size of 2.1 MB which is consistent with what I get from the A download. (I've tried several times of course.) But obviously the F document is truncated to 2,121 KB; the very last lines (readable ASCII
 text) are:   | 2538 0 obj | << | /Dest (I7.1.1365315) | /Type /Annot | /Subtype /Link | /Rect [ 160 710 297 724 ]  | /Border [ 0 0 0 ]  | >> | endobj | 2539 0 obj | << | /Dest (I7.1.1365506) | /Type /Annot | /Subtype /Link
 | /Rect [ 224   D I had sent an email notification on Dec 07 to "openvmsdoc" at HP but didn't get any reply so far.   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:40:07 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>? Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web) 4 Message-ID: <3fef4006$0$17130$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   File is corrupted.P When opening it with Adobe Acrobat, Acrobat sez "File is corrupted but will try  to fix it" then hangs.   D.   Michael Unger wrote:I > Did anyone manage to download the "HP OpenVMS Guide to System Security" E > from <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/os732_index.html> successfully?  > G > At <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/> it is listed I > with a file size of 2.1 MB which is consistent with what I get from the C > download. (I've tried several times of course.) But obviously the H > document is truncated to 2,121 KB; the very last lines (readable ASCII > text) are: >  > | 2538 0 obj > | << > | /Dest (I7.1.1365315) > | /Type /Annot > | /Subtype /Link > | /Rect [ 160 710 297 724 ]  > | /Border [ 0 0 0 ]  > | >>
 > | endobj > | 2539 0 obj > | << > | /Dest (I7.1.1365506) > | /Type /Annot > | /Subtype /Link > | /Rect [ 224  > F > I had sent an email notification on Dec 07 to "openvmsdoc" at HP but > didn't get any reply so far. > 	 > Michael  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:30:52 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>? Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web) ) Message-ID: <3FEF5996.2F549760@istop.com>    Michael Unger wrote:G > At <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/> it is listed I > with a file size of 2.1 MB which is consistent with what I get from the  > download.   @ you could have given the actual URL which would have saved time:B http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/aa-q2hlg-te.PDF  / The web server does serve it as application/pdf C It lists it as 2171904 bytes which my mac receives in its entirety.   I Acrobat reader on the mac first starts with "verifying document" and then   complains of it being corrupted.  J I therefore suspect that the document was perhaps truncated not by the webG server but when being copied to the web server. (or perhaps if the file I actually resides on an nfs mounted volume, perhaps the NFS software has a 9 problem and does not give the web server the whole file).   K I have seen similar things happen on other totally unrelated web sites. For L instance, the airbus web site had an mpeg movie that was about half the sizeN it should have been. The same movie was available from another location of the> web site under a different url and that was was the full size.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 06:08:21 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>? Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web) 4 Message-ID: <3fefb721$0$17115$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   JF Mezei wrote:   B > you could have given the actual URL which would have saved time:D > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/aa-q2hlg-te.PDF  N JF, we tried to be kind with you during a previous issue, try to be kind with  others.    D.   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Dec 2003 13:20:20 -0800& From: jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan)K Subject: Re: Problems with CDRecord and a (new) Yamaha CRW-F1 SCSI recorder = Message-ID: <cc5619f2.0312281320.5020fbcb@posting.google.com>   k jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan) wrote in message news:<cc5619f2.0312230734.10c7ac34@posting.google.com>... z > vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) wrote in message news:<3fe6ef49$1@news.uni-konstanz.de>... > > 	 > > Rich,  > > " > > you should try Version 2.01A19 > > J > > ftp://v36.chemie.uni-konstanz.de/cdrecord_vms/cdrtools_2_01a19_vms.zip > >  > > Eberhard >  > .....  > F >      Over Christmas I'm going to install 1.0c firmware via a peecee,E > then try it again.  After that I will get the new CDRecord.  Thanks  > again! > 
 > Rich Jordan   A Got 1.0c installed finally (had to get a PC with a SCSI interface F since the Yamaha firmware installers are interface specific).  Now theD record attempts fail differently with the older software, but once ID got your 2.01A19, it worked fine, though I had to enable burnfree at= the highest speeds.  I may bring the firmware back up to 1.0d E eventually just to see if it works with the new CDRECORD.  I'm glad I C didn't have to revert to IDE on this system!  Plus since the CRW-F1 C works so well as a CD reader I can yank the old Pioneer out and fit 0 the DAT drive back in the box.  Nice all around!   Rich Jordan    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:39:56 -0500 & From: "Chris Moore" <just@my.twocents> Subject: Samba for OpenVMS8 Message-ID: <NiGHb.741$Vl6.260835@news20.bellglobal.com>  J I am being pressured to dump Pathworks on the 5 VAXen where it has happilyH (?) resided for lo these many years, but there remain a few applications where it REALLY comes in handy.   L I have no experience or knowledge of Samba, but have been told that it mightH be a suitable (if limited) alternative.  I have a copy (current?) on theK Freeware CD, but does anyone know of a source for configuration/usage info,  etc.  + Any and all assistance gratefully received.    Chris Moore    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:58:03 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>  Subject: Re: Samba for OpenVMS' Message-ID: <3FEF43DB.DF28C353@aaa.com>   1 Check http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/jyc/ & for the latest kits and some VMS info.  4 Also check http://lists.samba.org/listinfo/samba-vms* for info about the SMABA-VMS mailing list.   Regards 	 Jan-Erik.  PS. 5 I'm not sure that SAMBA is a "limited alternative"...        Chris Moore wrote: > L > I am being pressured to dump Pathworks on the 5 VAXen where it has happilyJ > (?) resided for lo these many years, but there remain a few applications! > where it REALLY comes in handy.  > N > I have no experience or knowledge of Samba, but have been told that it mightJ > be a suitable (if limited) alternative.  I have a copy (current?) on theM > Freeware CD, but does anyone know of a source for configuration/usage info,  > etc. > - > Any and all assistance gratefully received.  > 
 > Chris Moore    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:31:45 -0800 % From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com>  Subject: Re: Samba for OpenVMS( Message-ID: <3FEF4BC1.6090700@rdrop.com>   Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:  > PS. 7 > I'm not sure that SAMBA is a "limited alternative"...   A What he said. I'm a very happy SAMBA user, on both VMS and Linux.    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Dec 2003 12:09:47 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) 1 Subject: Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0312281209.3aba57f0@posting.google.com>   Z JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message news:<3FE96224.A4FD404@istop.com>...N > If you are to take the 5% drop in business quoted by your brother Mr Parris,2 > it is pretty hard to say that VMS is doing great  A That figure was a 5% drop in total Alphaserver sales (VMS, Tru64, F maybe even some Linux) on a year-over-year basis, not a 5% drop in VMS	 business.    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Dec 2003 12:20:05 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) 1 Subject: Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0312281220.23779884@posting.google.com>   ~ "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message news:<3FEBBA1C.B1960573@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>...H > ...and, as I've asked multiple times but you've consistently attemptedI > to skirt the issue, how's VMS doing now as compared to three years ago? & > ...five years ago? ...ten years ago?  B VMS revenues are definitely lower at present compared with 5 or 10D years ago.  There was a lot of damage done by the "port to UNIX" and) "port to Windows NT" waves under Digital.   B But I'm far more interested in where VMS is now, and the direction? revenues are heading right now.  And that looks quite positive.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:19:09 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>1 Subject: Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS ( Message-ID: <3FEF56D9.FC2BBCF@istop.com>   Keith Parris wrote: D > But I'm far more interested in where VMS is now, and the directionA > revenues are heading right now.  And that looks quite positive.   K Yeah, very positive when you hear comments from HP execs to the effect that H the reductions in VMS revenus were slightly less than had been expected.  I This means that HP knowingly took decisions with full knowledge that they I would reduce VMS revenus. And if you *must* take some decisions, then you M woudl reduce the impact by making a lot of advertising and giving the product ; increased visibility. Unfirtunatly, HP did neither of this.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:28:04 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>1 Subject: Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS 6 Message-ID: <3FEF8324.5E5414A2@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Keith Parris wrote:  >  > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message news:<3FEBBA1C.B1960573@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>...J > > ...and, as I've asked multiple times but you've consistently attemptedK > > to skirt the issue, how's VMS doing now as compared to three years ago? ( > > ...five years ago? ...ten years ago? > D > VMS revenues are definitely lower at present compared with 5 or 10F > years ago.  There was a lot of damage done by the "port to UNIX" and+ > "port to Windows NT" waves under Digital.  > D > But I'm far more interested in where VMS is now, and the directionA > revenues are heading right now.  And that looks quite positive.   F Really? Within what time frame do you see a significant* VMS recovery?H Ten fiscal quarters (2-1/2 years)? 20 quarters (five years)? 40 quarters (ten years)?   ...hp stock price recovery?   : What would you suggest to accelerate the rate of recovery?  ' *: At least 75% of VMS's former status.    -- o David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/l   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 16:14:16 -0500e* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>* Subject: Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome) Message-ID: <3FEF47A8.2E29BD7D@istop.com>    someone didn't write:eL > Just between us when no one else is watching....I have seen VMS running on > 64 CPUs gs1280.....P  K All performance and support issues aside, what is the actual limit ?  WouldnJ the limit be constrained by the number of bits allocated in a structure toK identify each CPU ?  Would it be 256 CPUs ? 512 ? 1024 ? 2**32 CPUs ? Or is) the limit elsewhere ?u   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.720 ************************