1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 29 Dec 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 721       Contents:/ Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit P Re: DCL extensions Was ( How to make exe return value to dcl symbol  &         F, Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL, RE: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL, Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL how to load licenses Re: how to load licenses Re: how to load licenses RE: how to load licenses Re: how to load licenses Re: how to load licensesD Re: installation issue with OpenVMS 7.3-1 / AlphaStation 255/233 MHzP Re: Is anyone else seeing Mount Verify messages on the console when you create/d Re: length of SCSNODE  Re: length of SCSNODE  Re: length of SCSNODE # Re: Need Help Porting C code to VMS 
 Re: Next Week  Re: OpenMotif on ClosedVMS6 Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web)6 Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web)! OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server % RE: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server % Re: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server % Re: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server % Re: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server % Re: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server  Re: Samba for OpenVMS  Re: Samba for OpenVMS  Re: Samba for OpenVMS & Re: scrambled terminal output on OPA0:( Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS% Re: strange behaviour of IF statement  TCPIP$LPD_VMS_FLAGPAGES  test! Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 08:07:12 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>8 Subject: Re: A Christmas gift to all haters of Micro$hit2 Message-ID: <bsokd0$tre$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Keith Brown wrote:1 > The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft  > + > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13350  >  >  > M A Dutch IT magazine wrote a similar article a few weeks ago. They emphasised  J what is happening in Asia. Asian governments have teamed up to get rid of I Microsoft altogether, and use Linux instead. China is working on its own  J operating system. Just think of the potential market in that region. With L China's economy growth figures it becomes obvious that this region may well O decide wich desktop operating system we will be using in future, and that will   not be Windooz.   L Personally I've allways expected that M$ would go down. Everybody with some M knowlegde about IT knows that M$ sells junk. Even people selling M$ networks  Q etc. admit that they know it is junk, but it is the only thing there is, or that  O managers will buy. Combine that with the antipathy or downright hatred against  Q M$ (45% of European companies would like to kick M$ out of the door rather today  N then tomorrow), and it becomes clear that it was just a matter of time before  this trend would set in.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:33:24 -0600 * From: Patrick Spinler <pspinler@yahoo.com>Y Subject: Re: DCL extensions Was ( How to make exe return value to dcl symbol  &         F + Message-ID: <bspl43$90p$1@tribune.mayo.edu>   ? I second this request.  Something like this makes doing system  G interfaces in 3rd party tools or languages like python or perl trivial  C and highly reliable.  Much much better than what we have currently.   F David Dachtera mentioned that there were possible security holes with F this scheme.  Will someone please explain the possible ramifications ?   -- Pat   Tom Linden wrote: @ > I believe adding decimal arithimetic might be useful for many,K > but to some extent it is reinventing the wheel and doesn't go far enough.  > J > In thinking about how one might implement such features, it occurs to me > thatJ > far more useful would be the ability to have a facility for user-defined > lexical functions, e.g.  > 7 > $ define lexical foo(sdt1, sdt2, ...) [returns(sdtr)] ' > with default return being char string - > where sdt := SDL data_type, so for example.  > ? > $ define lexical payment(word,decimal precision(10,2),decimal  > precision(10,2)) -% > _$ returns(decimal precision(10,2))  > 
 > then you > $ years=15 > $ interest=6.0 > $ principal=500000.22 3 > $ write sys$out payment(years,interest,principal)  > A > By making it a lexical function  then one can include in pipes.  > I > Now if that were available I could implement all the math functions you , > would most likely want in less than a day!   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:41:06 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) 5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL 3 Message-ID: <mWXHb.11261$l71.5227@news.cpqcorp.net>   f In article <EWTFb.11204$bD4.3662@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@hp.com_remove_this> writes:
 >Hi Folks, > 7 >Here is your chance to influence the future of VMS....  > L >I have investigated the possibility of supporting floating point arithmetic. >in DCL. The intention is to support something >similar to the following: >  >a=1.23  >b=2.44  >  >write sys$output a+b  >3.67   = If 5 / 4 .eq. 1.25 and not just 1, a lot of code will break.    I Likewise if a5 = 5 and a4 = 4, then if a5 / a4 .eq. 1.25 and not just 1,   the same problem exists.  B Search SYS$SYSTEM,SYS$STARTUP,SYS$UPDATE etc. *.com for lines thatE conatin both / and .EQS. to find some examples.  There are also build B and kitting files that assume the existing behaviour (truncation).  - How will compares of repeating decimals work?   ) e.g. is (1 / 3 .eqs. .333) true or false?        --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 08:26:58 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 5 Subject: RE: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL 9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIIECNCJAA.tom@kednos.com>    /* -----Original Message----- = /* From: Charlie Hammond [mailto:hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com] * /* Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 7:41 AM /* To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com8 /* Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL /* /*B /* In article <EWTFb.11204$bD4.3662@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Guy Peleg") /* <guy.peleg@hp.com_remove_this> writes: 
 /* >Hi Folks,  /* >: /* >Here is your chance to influence the future of VMS.... /* >> /* >I have investigated the possibility of supporting floating /* point arithmetic 1 /* >in DCL. The intention is to support something  /* >similar to the following:  /* >
 /* >a=1.23
 /* >b=2.44 /* > /* >write sys$output a+b /* >3.67 /*? /* If 5 / 4 .eq. 1.25 and not just 1, a lot of code will break.  /*K /* Likewise if a5 = 5 and a4 = 4, then if a5 / a4 .eq. 1.25 and not just 1,  /* the same problem exists.  /*E /* Search SYS$SYSTEM,SYS$STARTUP,SYS$UPDATE etc. *.com for lines that H /* conatin both / and .EQS. to find some examples.  There are also buildE /* and kitting files that assume the existing behaviour (truncation).  /*0 /* How will compares of repeating decimals work? /*, /* e.g. is (1 / 3 .eqs. .333) true or false?G Take back my last assertion, should be false because the shorter string 	 should be B to the length of the other, which depends on how it is implemented   /* /* /* /* -- 9 /*       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft  /* Lauderdale  FL  USAI /*           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying) A /*       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my  /* employer's. /* /* ---) /* Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. = /* Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). D /* Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003 /* --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 10:20:30 -0800. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)5 Subject: Re: Floating point arithmetic support in DCL = Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0312291020.79fb54e0@posting.google.com>   n hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) wrote in message news:<mWXHb.11261$l71.5227@news.cpqcorp.net>...h > In article <EWTFb.11204$bD4.3662@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@hp.com_remove_this> writes: > >Hi Folks, > > 9 > >Here is your chance to influence the future of VMS....  > > N > >I have investigated the possibility of supporting floating point arithmetic0 > >in DCL. The intention is to support something > >similar to the following: > > 	 > >a=1.23 	 > >b=2.44  > >  > >write sys$output a+b  > >3.67  > ? > If 5 / 4 .eq. 1.25 and not just 1, a lot of code will break.    % Yes, that would be very bad. Agreed.    K > Likewise if a5 = 5 and a4 = 4, then if a5 / a4 .eq. 1.25 and not just 1,   > the same problem exists. > D > Search SYS$SYSTEM,SYS$STARTUP,SYS$UPDATE etc. *.com for lines thatG > conatin both / and .EQS. to find some examples.  There are also build D > and kitting files that assume the existing behaviour (truncation).   I think you meant .EQ. .   How about the following:   1/3 = 0  1./3. = 0.333333... + 1/3. = 0.333333...   or type-mismatch error + 1./3 = 0.333333...   or type-mismatch error   > IOW, do integer math unless there are decimal points involved.E Offhand, I see no reason that this would break old code. If I'm wrong  on this, please give examples.  / > How will compares of repeating decimals work?   C Can they not be made to work similar to Fortran (or another similar A language)? You have to be careful programming with floating point > variables and keep roundoff error, ill-conditioned or unstableF problems, your choice of an algorithm, and the like, in mind. And some@ algorithms can be *much* worse than others for the same problem,F depending on the problem, of course. A good book on Numerical AnalysisA would come in handy. The same would go for such variables in DCL.   + > e.g. is (1 / 3 .eqs. .333) true or false?    False.  B NOTE: There exists at least one calculator app that keeps track of: rational operations. You can divide 1 by 3 and it displaysB 0.33333333333333333333333333333333. But you can then multiply thatA result by 3 and you get exactly 1. !  Perhaps something like that ? could be added for DCL math, but I don't know if it's worth the F trouble, and the keeping track of rational operations probably has itsC limits and may have undesirable or unexpected consequences. I never B checked it out thoroughly to be able to say more about it. I don'tA know how many "levels" of divisors are kept track of, but a quick E check shows it is at least two. Example: Divide 1. by 3. . Divide the F result of that by 7. . Multiply that result by 21. and you get exactly 1. back!   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:09:59 +1100 ' From: "alphadoc" <all.the.fun@the.fair>  Subject: how to load licenses < Message-ID: <3feffcb0$0$18747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>  F I have finally got my alphaserver 4100, HSJ50 and storageworks cabinetH together. The CI-thin cables are (home) made, the HSJ is configured, andI DILX runs with no errors. The CIPCA card sees the HSJ and the disk arrays L OK. OpenVMS 7.3-1 is installed, and I have entered 3 of my hobbyist licenses$ by hand to get the show on the road.L Can someone please tell me how I can mount the (msdos formatted) floppy withJ the licenses in a text file? and then how to exectute the file to make theK registration process happen? I image that this will involve doing something K like @dva0:filename.txt after a successful mount has occurred. How close am  I?? J The layered products licenses are very many, and I don't want to type them. in by hand, even after I have culled the list.E I have loaded the Motif license by hand, and can now log in using the H graphical interface. Great............progess..........but I want more!! Thanks for any help offerred!!   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:21:59 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)! Subject: Re: how to load licenses 4 Message-ID: <H%UHb.296399$dt3.162796@news.chello.at>  f In article <3feffcb0$0$18747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, "alphadoc" <all.the.fun@the.fair> writes:G >I have finally got my alphaserver 4100, HSJ50 and storageworks cabinet I >together. The CI-thin cables are (home) made, the HSJ is configured, and J >DILX runs with no errors. The CIPCA card sees the HSJ and the disk arraysM >OK. OpenVMS 7.3-1 is installed, and I have entered 3 of my hobbyist licenses % >by hand to get the show on the road. M >Can someone please tell me how I can mount the (msdos formatted) floppy with K >the licenses in a text file? and then how to exectute the file to make the L >registration process happen? I image that this will involve doing somethingL >like @dva0:filename.txt after a successful mount has occurred. How close am >I??K >The layered products licenses are very many, and I don't want to type them / >in by hand, even after I have culled the list. F >I have loaded the Motif license by hand, and can now log in using theI >graphical interface. Great............progess..........but I want more!!  >Thanks for any help offerred!!    Two options.  M Enter the network license (UCX and/or DVNETEXT) by hand and continue with FTP  (or FAL)  N Install the PATHWORKS product, configure it, maybe install its license by handA (PWLMXXXCA07.03) and use the PCDISK utility to access the floppy.    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:12:03 +0100 - From: "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de> ! Subject: Re: how to load licenses 8 Message-ID: <bsp972$f732g$1@ID-56200.news.uni-berlin.de>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:, > "alphadoc" <all.the.fun@the.fair> writes:  ... 8 >> Can someone please tell me how I can mount the (msdosF >> formatted) floppy with the licenses in a text file? and then how to= >> exectute the file to make the registration process happen?  >  > Two options. > F > Enter the network license (UCX and/or DVNETEXT) by hand and continue > with FTP (or FAL)  > @ > Install the PATHWORKS product, configure it, maybe install itsG > license by hand (PWLMXXXCA07.03) and use the PCDISK utility to access  > the floppy.   G Or get MGPCX from ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/mgpcx.zip  to access the floppy.    cu,    Martin --  F   OpenVMS:                | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3    The operating system   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de F    God runs the           |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:    earth simulation on.   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 29 Dec 03 14:13:09 +100 From: rok@nuk.uni-lj.si ! Subject: RE: how to load licenses & Message-ID: <3ff03679$1@NUK.Uni-Lj.Si>  ; In Article <3feffcb0$0$18747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ) "alphadoc" <all.the.fun@the.fair> writes: M >Can someone please tell me how I can mount the (msdos formatted) floppy with  >the licenses in a text file?    MSDOS formatted floppy? No go./ ISO 9660 (or High Sierra) formatted CDROM? Yes. > Enter one more license to start TCP/IP and FTP licenses? Yes.   L >registration process happen? I image that this will involve doing somethingL >like @dva0:filename.txt after a successful mount has occurred. How close am >I??    Quite.    Regards,  D Rok Vidmar                       Internet:  rok.vidmar@nuk.uni-lj.si; National and University Library  Phone:     +386 1 421 5461 ; Turjaska 1, SI-1000 Ljubljana    Fax:       +386 1 421 5464  Slovenia   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:16:27 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> ! Subject: Re: how to load licenses ' Message-ID: <3FF0292B.6A24889F@aaa.com>    alphadoc wrote:  > H > I have finally got my alphaserver 4100, HSJ50 and storageworks cabinetJ > together. The CI-thin cables are (home) made, the HSJ is configured, andK > DILX runs with no errors. The CIPCA card sees the HSJ and the disk arrays N > OK. OpenVMS 7.3-1 is installed, and I have entered 3 of my hobbyist licenses& > by hand to get the show on the road.N > Can someone please tell me how I can mount the (msdos formatted) floppy withL > the licenses in a text file? and then how to exectute the file to make theM > registration process happen? I image that this will involve doing something M > like @dva0:filename.txt after a successful mount has occurred. How close am  > I?? L > The layered products licenses are very many, and I don't want to type them0 > in by hand, even after I have culled the list.G > I have loaded the Motif license by hand, and can now log in using the J > graphical interface. Great............progess..........but I want more!!    Do you open a window from a PC ?0 Or can you just connect using telnet from a PC ?6 Then just cut-n-paste the license command file between! notepad and your terminal window.   : Or, connect a PC as the serial console and cut-n-paste the license fie that way.   	 Jan-Erik.     > Thanks for any help offerred!!   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 10:07:52 -08003 From: thomas.schick@de.michelin.com (Thomas Schick) ! Subject: Re: how to load licenses = Message-ID: <d7229a50.0312291007.149569c6@posting.google.com>   k "alphadoc" <all.the.fun@the.fair> wrote in message news:<3feffcb0$0$18747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>... H > I have finally got my alphaserver 4100, HSJ50 and storageworks cabinetJ > together. The CI-thin cables are (home) made, the HSJ is configured, andK > DILX runs with no errors. The CIPCA card sees the HSJ and the disk arrays N > OK. OpenVMS 7.3-1 is installed, and I have entered 3 of my hobbyist licenses& > by hand to get the show on the road.N > Can someone please tell me how I can mount the (msdos formatted) floppy with > the licenses in a text file?   Have a look at OpenVMS FAQ> How do I access a Microsoft Windows floppy disk from OpenVMS?   M >                               and then how to exectute the file to make the M > registration process happen? I image that this will involve doing something M > like @dva0:filename.txt after a successful mount has occurred. How close am  > I??   F Could work if the content of filename.txt follows command syntax rules for DCL and LMF.  L > The layered products licenses are very many, and I don't want to type them0 > in by hand, even after I have culled the list.  F Make your network operational and transfer your license-file via ftp - could be easier.  	 Greetings  Thomas   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:24:33 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) M Subject: Re: installation issue with OpenVMS 7.3-1 / AlphaStation 255/233 MHz 3 Message-ID: <RGXHb.11260$l71.2714@news.cpqcorp.net>   ) In article <3FE7BA17.6020705@shauny.de>,  + Ralph Graulich <maillist@shauny.de> writes:  ..C >Now trying to boot the OpenVMS installation procedure by using "b  J >dka500". It tells me "configuring devices", first finds the onboard NIC, I >then finds the DEC500 additional NIC, cursor goes to newline, the CD ROM J >is accessed some more times and then nothing else happens, no prompt, no  >warning, no error.   E Based on the message you see, you are almost certainly in this bit of J code from SYS$SYSTEM:SA_STARTUP.COM.  I don't know why you appear to hang,+ but perhaps this information will help you.    ..1 $If .not. f$getsyi("NOAUTOCONFIG")                 $then H $write sys$output "''configdev'" <-- THIS DISPLAYS "CONFIGURING DEVICES" $mcr sysman  $DECK =                 io connect fta0/noadapter/driver=sys$ftdriver ?                 io connect mpa0/noadapter/driver=sys$pipedriver                   io autoconfigure                 exit $EOD $endif $@sys$system:startup configure   $wait 00:00:15 $endif $040_configure_z: : $if f$search("sys$startup:ldr$wrapup.exe") .nes. "" then - run sys$startup:ldr$wrapup.exe $050_startinfoserver:  $define sys$error nl:  $define sys$output nl:# $@sys$startup:ess$startup disk tape  $deassign sys$error  $deassign sys$output $050_startinfoserver_z: @ $define/system/exec/nolog sys$sylogin sys$system:sa1_startup.com $term = f$trnlnm("SYS$OUTPUT") $define/user sys$output nl:  $define/user sys$error nl:G $run/noauth/detach/input='term'/output='term'/process_name=sa_startup - ? /file_limit=100/io_buffered=500/io_direct=4096/ast_limit=4096 - A /buffer_limit=65536/working_set=10000/maximum_working_set=24000 - % /page_file=1000000 sys$system:loginou  ..   --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 08:48:24 -0800$ From: svieth@wi.rr.com (Scott Vieth)Y Subject: Re: Is anyone else seeing Mount Verify messages on the console when you create/d < Message-ID: <5a85bce2.0312290848.c671ae9@posting.google.com>   Michael:  F I have the most recent patches for 7.3-1 in place.  I checked with theE CSC and the person who responded to me said it was "normal" for mount C verify messages to appear on the console.  He said that the EVA was C sending the OS a SCSI message to let the OS know that something had B changed on the EVA.  The OS interprets this message as an error of
 some sort.  ' [That's my interpretation of his reply]   F This is very odd.  We are going to be stuck with mount verify messages? on the console and we're supposed to interpret this as "normal"  behavior....   -Scott   Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote in message news:<sw0Fb.1632$EL4.185@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...  > Scott Vieth wrote: >  > > Hi:  > > C > > Is anyone else seeing Mount Verify messages on your AlphaServer I > > console when you create/delete snapshots on an EVA (which is attached  > > to your VMS system)? > > I > > [The m.v. messages show up against the unit that is the source of the  > > snapshot.] > > C > > Please drop me a short email and say "Yeah, me too!" if you are   > > experiencing this phenomena. > >  > > Thanks,  > >  > > -Scott Vieth > > svieth@wi.rr.com > = > Make sure you have the latest FIBRE-SCSI patches installed.  > H > We make extensive use of SNAPSHOTS on our EVA (168x146GB with 72 more G > drives on order).  We have 50 or so clusters that "own" a LUN on the  I > EVA, then we have a seperate cluster that will make a snapshot for the  I > purpose of backing up that LUN to tape.  I will check on Monday to see  & > if we can correlate any MV messages. > 
 > Michael.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 02:01:00 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE) Message-ID: <3FEFD104.67053E90@istop.com>   M VAX VMS 7.2, a 4 character SCSNODE is padded with 2 blanks in the SYSGEN SHOW  SCSNODE display.   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:51:06 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE. Message-ID: <bsp7vq$360$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes in article <bsoev7$4t9$1@online.de> dated Mon, 29 Dec 2003 05:44:07 +0000 (UTC):A >In article <1031228084110.998A-100000@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos  ><JOHN@egh.com> writes:  >   >> I *DO* see padding on VAX 7.3  	 >I don't!   I But you would if you had vaxen with nodenames shorter than 6 characters.  I From the observations made here, it appears VAX/VMS pads with spaces to 6 # characters and Alpha/VMS pads to 8.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 07:40:22 -0800. From: alexdaniels@themail.co.uk (Alex Daniels) Subject: Re: length of SCSNODE= Message-ID: <9f7f13a8.0312290740.68987eee@posting.google.com>   | helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) wrote in message news:<bsoev7$4t9$1@online.de>...B > In article <1031228084110.998A-100000@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos > <JOHN@egh.com> writes:   > ! > > I *DO* see padding on VAX 7.3  > >  > > $ show sys/nopr K > > OpenVMS V7.3  on node BIRD  28-DEC-2003 08:42:43.14  Uptime  5 03:44:32  > > $ show cpu > 
 > I don't! > # > SYSMAN> do mc sysgen show scsnode 4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAHH > SCSNODE                   "ELIJAH"    "    "    "    "    "ZZZZ" Ascii4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEELH > SCSNODE                   "DANEEL"    "    "    "    "    "ZZZZ" Ascii4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIAI > SCSNODE                 "GLADIA  "    "    "    "    "     "ZZZZ" Ascii  >  > SYSMAN> do sh sys/noproc4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAHK > OpenVMS V7.3  on node ELIJAH  29-DEC-2003 06:44:09.38  Uptime  8 21:29:21 4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEELK > OpenVMS V7.3  on node DANEEL  29-DEC-2003 06:43:57.19  Uptime  8 08:13:35 4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIAM > OpenVMS V7.3-1  on node GLADIA  29-DEC-2003 06:44:12.40  Uptime  7 23:40:19  > 1 > SYSMAN> do write sys$output f$getsyi("hw_name") 4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAH > VAXstation 4000-604 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEEL > VAX 4000-100A 4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIA > DEC 3000 - M300LX   C I too have always wondered why there is padding to eight chars when % the node name limit is definetly six.   E Interestingly however in VAX 6.2 'help sh sys ex' lists a node called E 'KRYPTON', which is 7 chars, by the time we get to 7.3 (and 7.x IIRC)   it changes to 'KRYPTN', 6 chars.  E Also a rather interestingly named process is no longer present in the C 7.x example. It is however *incorrectly* refered to the explanation E text, which claims that it and another missing process are CUR on the  CPU.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:09:03 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) , Subject: Re: Need Help Porting C code to VMS3 Message-ID: <PcZHb.11273$x91.5663@news.cpqcorp.net>   k In article <3fe88aaa$0$1096$7f8943f3@newsreader.visi.com>, Lyndon Bartels <lbartels@pressenter.com> writes:  :Here's a simple question. :  :Say I have a variable in C: :  :char *filename;  B   That is a pointer, of course.  By default, a longword of storageA   is allocated for the address -- but no storage for the filename A   itself.  (Since you're apparently new to C, remember to account A   for the the null found at the end of various C strings, too --  ?   and see the OpenVMS FAQ for other C programming information.)   * :On a unix system, the file may be "c.txt" : / :On a VMS system, the filename may be "C.TXT;1"      And "c.txt", too.   ? :I want to convert the VMS file name to look like the unix one.   E   Do not convert filenames in your code, as it is likely you will get C   it subtlely wrong -- I and others are regularly chasing down code @   that contains parsing-related bugs or assumptions.  (PCSI, forD   instance, has within its code a case-sensitive filename match thatB   has been causing folks some problems; even folks here in OpenVMSC   Engineering can and do get this processing wrong on occasion.  If A   you use the standard filename-processing routines, you are less B   likely to commit errors -- and more likely to survive upgrades.)  G   Use the available parsing routines to collect, process, and parse the G   filenames as required -- these require some RMS processing, or use of E   the routines such as decc$to_vms, decc$from_vms, decc$translate_vms F   or such.  (I generally prefer to use RMS calls directly, when I need2   do this.  sys$parse and friends, most commonly.)  J :In other words, lowercase it, and drop the semi-colon and version number.  ?   Why?  Seriously.  OpenVMS deals with the semicolon just fine. C   (You seem to have something in mind, but have included no details A   or relevent background.)  Beware casing, too -- OpenVMS can now F   support traditional upper-case filenames, and mixed-case (case-blindC   comparisons, case-preserving) and lower-case (case-sensitive, and    case-preserving) filenames.   J :I've been tweaking, and haven't come up with anything simple, and I know  :there's a simple method.   F   As has been mentioned in replies elsewhere, the C library can acceptE   UNIX-style file specifications, but there are no shortage of corner 3   cases when mapping the two file systems together.   >   Filename compatibility is a whole lot more difficult than itA   initially looks -- best to let the CRTL handle this for you, or A   to ask the file system to process and reconstitute the name for    you.      N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 10:24:13 -08001 From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski)  Subject: Re: Next Week= Message-ID: <857e9e41.0312291024.550d2eea@posting.google.com>    Dear Newsgroup,   C OK, I am keeping this string of notes and when ever I feel a little ; down, I am going to read this.  Your comments are very much  apreciated.   
 warm regards,  Sue     ~ "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message news:<3FE9022B.BC2C2559@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>... > Sue Skonetski wrote: > > J > > Just a reminder that the HP offices in the US will be closed next week@ > > (there will still be staff to take care of customer issues). > > 9 > > I would also like to take this time to say thank you.  > > I > > Thank you for being an Ambassador, Customer, Partner, Consultant, and  > > fans of VMS.I > > Thank you for your support of OpenVMS in the past and in the present. 7 > > Thank your support and enthusiasm as we go forward. H > > Thank you for your help in making VMS the amazing product that it is > > and will continue to be.= > > Thank you for all the care and concern you have shown me.  > > And mostly6 > > Thank you for giving me the best job in the world. > >  > > Warm Regards and a big hug,  > > Sue  >   > Many of us love YOU, too, Sue! > + > Merry Christmas and a Wonderful New Year!    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 09:46:55 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) # Subject: Re: OpenMotif on ClosedVMS = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0312290946.4eb8ec4f@posting.google.com>   [ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message news:<3FEFBA83.24C86DDE@istop.com>... G > Is there a commitment that the code base will continue to be shared ?   > As the FAQ explains, "both Motif and Open Motif share the sameB functionality and source code. The primary difference between Open@ Motif and the commercial product is the software license."  WhatF incentive would there be to make the code bases different?  That would8 just make maintenance a headache, and any differences orC incompatibilities would defeat their stated goal to "allow the many < Motif applications to more easily be made available ... thusD increasing the variety of applications available, delivering greaterE choice for buyers and a larger market for vendors" or in other words, 8 to make Motif an industry standard across ALL platforms.  F To that end, it appears the direction is to remove the royalty/licenseF fee restrictions entirely.  That would remove the only real difference" between Motif and OpenMotif.  From- http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/faq.html :   
 "QUESTION:  - Will Motif be made Open Source in the future?    ANSWER:   > Yes, we hope to be able to make a distribution under a licenseE complying with the Open Source guidelines sometime in the future. For 8 now this is as close as to Open Source as we could get."   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:18:46 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> ? Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web) 9 Message-ID: <bsp4lq$erad3$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>   & On 2003-12-28 23:30, "JF Mezei" wrote:   > Michael Unger wrote:H >> At <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/> it is listed:        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^J >> with a file size of 2.1 MB which is consistent with what I get from the
 >> download. i > B > you could have given the actual URL which would have saved time:D > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/aa-q2hlg-te.PDF  F Using Mozilla as a browser I get a directory listing with the PDF fileD listed and linked therein. So I didn't care about the URL of the PDF file itself.  1 > The web server does serve it as application/pdfcE > It lists it as 2171904 bytes which my mac receives in its entirety.  > K > Acrobat reader on the mac first starts with "verifying document" and thene" > complains of it being corrupted. >  > [...]e  C That's true for "Adobe Acrobat" (the full product suite) as well asl Didier has already mentioned.o   MichaelS   --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers.a@ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system.e5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 07:14:31 -0800. From: alexdaniels@themail.co.uk (Alex Daniels)? Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 documentation (PDF files on the web)u= Message-ID: <9f7f13a8.0312290714.77ae6c95@posting.google.com>-  t Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message news:<bsp4lq$erad3$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>...( > On 2003-12-28 23:30, "JF Mezei" wrote: >  > > Michael Unger wrote:J > >> At <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/> it is listed9 >     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?L > >> with a file size of 2.1 MB which is consistent with what I get from the > >> download. m > > D > > you could have given the actual URL which would have saved time:F > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-q2hlg-te/aa-q2hlg-te.PDF > H > Using Mozilla as a browser I get a directory listing with the PDF fileF > listed and linked therein. So I didn't care about the URL of the PDF > file itself. > 3 > > The web server does serve it as application/pdf G > > It lists it as 2171904 bytes which my mac receives in its entirety.x > > M > > Acrobat reader on the mac first starts with "verifying document" and thens$ > > complains of it being corrupted. > > 	 > > [...]t > E > That's true for "Adobe Acrobat" (the full product suite) as well asa > Didier has already mentioned.h > 	 > Michaelo  @ Using Mozilla and XPDF (on OpenVMS 7.3-1), I get the following..  	 $ mozilla  Starting MOZILLA-BIN...d? Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xreft table...2 Error: Top-level pages object is wrong type (null)! Error: Couldn't read page cataloge $   D Which is much more informative than a continually flashing hourglass+ that doesnt go away (which I get on Win2k).u   Alex   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:54:06 -0500 . From: "Jerry Alan Braga" <jabraga@flanagan.ca>* Subject: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server. Message-ID: <A6YHb.84$s8.1169@news.on.tac.net>  J What would be required to make an OpenVMS 7.3-1 Alpha using Tcpip 5.3 ECO2J into a coporate internet e-mail server.  I already use it for our intranet9 email but would like to expand that outside our firewall.s   Concerns   1. Securityw 2. Spam  3. Virus  
 Functionalityi% 1. Attachments sizes and using quotasu
 2. Web Accesst   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 08:18:50 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>a. Subject: RE: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIAECMCJAA.tom@kednos.com>   $ You may wish to consider MX instead.   /* -----Original Message-----r6 /* From: Jerry Alan Braga [mailto:jabraga@flanagan.ca]* /* Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 7:54 AM /* To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com- /* Subject: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server  /* s /* 0? /* What would be required to make an OpenVMS 7.3-1 Alpha using   /* Tcpip 5.3 ECO2eA /* into a coporate internet e-mail server.  I already use it for , /* our intranetl< /* email but would like to expand that outside our firewall. /* p /* Concerns  /* f /* 1. Security
 /* 2. Spam /* 3. Virusl /* m /* Functionality( /* 1. Attachments sizes and using quotas /* 2. Web Access /* - /* - /* - /* ---) /* Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.a= /* Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).tD /* Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003 /* s ---o& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003h   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:29:35 -0700g% From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>e. Subject: Re: OpenVMS as Corporate Email ServerB Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20031229092915.020006b0@raptor.psccos.com>  ( Look into PMDF at http://www.process.com  / At 08:54 AM 12/29/2003, Jerry Alan Braga wrote:aK >What would be required to make an OpenVMS 7.3-1 Alpha using Tcpip 5.3 ECO2tK >into a coporate internet e-mail server.  I already use it for our intraneta: >email but would like to expand that outside our firewall. >l	 >Concernst >  >1. Security >2. Spam	 >3. Virusv >r >Functionality& >1. Attachments sizes and using quotas >2. Web Access   ------J +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+J | Dan O'Reilly                  |  "There are 10 types of people in this |J | Principal Engineer            |   world: those who understand binary   |J | Process Software              |   and those who don't."                |J | http://www.process.com        |                                        |J +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:17:21 +0300*: From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <Laishev{at}DeltaTelecom{dot}RU>. Subject: Re: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server3 Message-ID: <13CD00E78C6EA0B5FA71F17D9644D0C7@nntp>p   Hello!  O   Our OpenVMS cluster provide a SMTP/POP3 service for our subscribers, we runs:,P 	- SMTP: MX 5.3 (www.madgoat.com) with a huge numbers of rejection filters, and   RBL-based SPAM system rejection.Q 	- POP3: Modified version of the IUPOP3 server for access with the POP3 protocol   to VMS Mail boxes.P 	- WEB: yahMail under WASD HTTP Server (http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/ by Mark G.  Daniel)g   Jerry Alan Braga wrote:=  L > What would be required to make an OpenVMS 7.3-1 Alpha using Tcpip 5.3 ECO2L > into a coporate internet e-mail server.  I already use it for our intranet; > email but would like to expand that outside our firewall.  > 
 > Concerns > 
 > 1. SecuritySA 	All authentication and authorization based on SYSUAF's database.   	 > 2. Spamf# 	MX's RejMan + RBL (SPAMCop + ORBS)i  
 > 3. Virus< 	No content analyzing. Only HEADER/IP based rejection rules. >  > Functionalityr' > 1. Attachments sizes and using quotasgN 	MX allows reducing a mail size at system-wide basis. We using VMS Disk Quota 1 facility to controling user's mailbox allocation.e   > 2. Web Accessr
 	- yahMailL 	- our own version of the WEB-Client written on java+MAIL$ Interface runnng " under OpenVMS/BEA Weblogic server.   	Just my 2 cents.    --  F + WBR, OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker .................................+D Delta Telecom Inc., NMT-450i, IMT-MC-450(CDMA2000) cellular operatorE Russia,191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 Cel: +7 (812) 116-3222eF +http://starlet.deltatelecom.ru ............. Frying on OpenVMS only +   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC)s, From: lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis). Subject: Re: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server. Message-ID: <bspmn9$7as$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   "Jerry Alan Braga" <jabraga@flanagan.ca> writes in article <A6YHb.84$s8.1169@news.on.tac.net> dated Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:54:06 -0500:K >What would be required to make an OpenVMS 7.3-1 Alpha using Tcpip 5.3 ECO20K >into a coporate internet e-mail server.  I already use it for our intraneto: >email but would like to expand that outside our firewall. >t  G All you "need" to do is add some MX records to DNS to point the world'syK e-mail servers to your machine, or a relay on your firewall boundary.  SMTPe) uses port 25.  Then turn on POP3 or IMAP.   H Word of warning:  The IMAP bundled with TCPIP 5.3 is kind of a dog in myH experience.  I run a server on a PWS 500au for my own use, and opening aK folder which contains 1000 messages takes minutes (compared with seconds on6D Mitre's corporate server, which appears to be a Sun running NetscapeK Messaging).  It also will not accept message uploads, which makes migration * from another server or from POP difficult.  L Multinet's IMAP server is full-featured, and I didn't notice any performance	 problems.o  J If you're planning on using POP3, this is less of a concern, because usersJ will typically download a few messages at a time instead of requesting theD headers for an entire folder.  I suppose you have already tested the* performance if you're using it internally.  	 >Concernsa >  >1. Security  C IMAP and POP3 both send passwords, presumably unencrypted, so thesehK protocols should only be used in (semi-) secure environments such as behinde a firewall.    >2. Spam  E It's important to not allow your SMTP server to be used as a relay bymL spammers.  TCPIP 5.3 has some good features for this, RTFM.  It also has RBL9 capability, which can help block spam sent to your users.o  	 >3. Virus   C Nothing built in.  If you're going to use a vanilla VMS system as asE corporate e-mail server, you need anti-virus software on your PCs, orhA intelligent users who won't open potentially harmful attachments.    >Functionality& >1. Attachments sizes and using quotas  L Attachments and quotas both work.  I've tested attachments up to 8 MB (12 MB	 encoded)..   >2. Web Access  L Yahmail is freeware which runs under CSWS and provides https access.  That'sI the best thing (which I'm familiar with) to use for webmail.  However, it3A needs some work on binary attachment handling, and there are sometH sub-optimal features of it's user interface.  For example, to delete theK message you're reading you have to go back to the folder page, and if a newgI message comes in during a session, you must reload the folder page beforeaJ anything else will work.  And there's no "reply all" function.  Aside from2 those things, it's very robust and straightfoward.  0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 10:15:48 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski). Subject: Re: OpenVMS as Corporate Email Server= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0312291015.521c6586@posting.google.com>.  d "Jerry Alan Braga" <jabraga@flanagan.ca> wrote in message news:<A6YHb.84$s8.1169@news.on.tac.net>...L > What would be required to make an OpenVMS 7.3-1 Alpha using Tcpip 5.3 ECO2L > into a coporate internet e-mail server.  I already use it for our intranet; > email but would like to expand that outside our firewall.h > 
 > Concerns > 
 > 1. Securitys	 > 2. Spam 
 > 3. Virus >  > Functionalitys' > 1. Attachments sizes and using quotase > 2. Web Accessn  ) TCPware as your IP stack for security ...o. PMDF as your smtp server for functionality ...* Sophos antivirus for virus scan w/pmdf ...1 Precisemail spam filter from Process for spam ...s OpenVMS for disk quotas ...  Yahmail for your webmail ...* PMDF will handle your attachment sizes ...   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:16:17 -0500o& From: "Chris Moore" <just@my.twocents> Subject: Re: Samba for OpenVMS9 Message-ID: <xFWHb.2643$Vl6.736887@news20.bellglobal.com>   K Sorry, also forgot to mention that we use TCPware (and DECnet IV).  So far,sI most docs I've found mention UCX and/or Multinet, but nothing specific to F TCPware.  (though it HAS been pretty much fully UCX compatible in past
 applications):  1 "Chris Moore" <just@my.twocents> wrote in message$3 news:qyWHb.2634$Vl6.734074@news20.bellglobal.com...1L > Hadn't intended to 'dis' SAMBA, had been told that it was somewhat limitedJ > compared to Pathworks  (shows how little I know about it, I suppose)  InK > fact I only REQUIRE a limited amount of the PWRK functionality.(e.g. someDH > small amount of file sharing, no print sharing, not sure about Windows# > domain authentication, and so on)I >v > Thanks again >o > CM >c4 > "Dean Woodward" <deanw@rdrop.com> wrote in message$ > news:3FEF4BC1.6090700@rdrop.com... > > Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:t	 > > > PS.c; > > > I'm not sure that SAMBA is a "limited alternative"...k > > E > > What he said. I'm a very happy SAMBA user, on both VMS and Linux.m >i >    ------------------------------   Date: 29 DEC 2003 15:25:01 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher) Subject: Re: Samba for OpenVMS6 Message-ID: <29DEC03.15250169@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  > In a previous article, "Chris Moore" <just@my.twocents> wrote:  L ->I am being pressured to dump Pathworks on the 5 VAXen where it has happilyJ ->(?) resided for lo these many years, but there remain a few applications! ->where it REALLY comes in handy.  -> oN ->I have no experience or knowledge of Samba, but have been told that it mightJ ->be a suitable (if limited) alternative.  I have a copy (current?) on theM ->Freeware CD, but does anyone know of a source for configuration/usage info,y ->etc.  B I fear this may also happen here as the absolute latest version ofF PW (Advanced server 7.3A-ECO2) doesn't play with the latest version ofG Macintosh OS X's SMB client (error 5000). It would be SO useful if thismE worked - even if "unsupported", since MAC's are becoming more popularp
 around here. 5   --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison.> --                   karcher+cov.nomorespxm@waisman.wisc.edu     ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 10:28:34 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) Subject: Re: Samba for OpenVMS= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0312291028.2009a198@posting.google.com>   g "Chris Moore" <just@my.twocents> wrote in message news:<xFWHb.2643$Vl6.736887@news20.bellglobal.com>...cM > Sorry, also forgot to mention that we use TCPware (and DECnet IV).  So far,tK > most docs I've found mention UCX and/or Multinet, but nothing specific torH > TCPware.  (though it HAS been pretty much fully UCX compatible in past > applications)  >   @ what ever runs on multinet runs on tcpware ... want to save some money?  We use this ...     1 http://www.vector-networks.com/lanprint/index.htm   , LANprint for OpenVMS to Windows NT Printing  OPENVMS SOLUTIONS  LANutil for OpenVMSo  + LANprint for OpenVMS to Windows NT Printing   ! Download Free Evaluation Software   & Online Documentation for VMS Solutions  > LANprint enables you to print from OpenVMS to Windows and OS/2= printers using their native LAN Manager Print Server support.a  D It offers improved TCP/IP functionality and support for OpenVMS v7.    Key Features@ No LAT needed: uses standard Microsoft SMB protocol, over either TCP/IP or DECnet.yF The shared printers are accessed transparently to applications through standard OpenVMS print queues.D The OpenVMS host shares printers just as if it was another client on the LAN.? NetWare server printers can be accessed through the LANprint/PCo bridge.cA Each Print Symbiont is capable of supporting sixteen print queues  simultaneously. ? Queues may be directed to the same remote network printer or tor several different printers.6B Remote printers can be distributed across numerous remote servers,@ including when they are part of a wide area network environment. Pricing and MediarF LANprint is priced by the number of standalone VMS nodes and/or entireE VMS Clusters that are to be supported. All nodes in a VMS Cluster ared& covered by a single 'Cluster' license.  E LANprint is sold in electronic download form only. No paper manual is B provided. You can download a fully-functioning evaluation kit thatD will work for 30 days from the installation date. This allows you to6 evaluate LANprint in your environment before purchase.  D Standalone VMS Node Pricing - $895 per system, plus $134.25 per year maintenance.  E VMS Cluster Pricing - $1340 for the entire Cluster (regardless of thet7 number of nodes in it), plus $201 per year maintenance.e  F Please contact Vector for discounted prices if you wish to purchase 10 or more licenses at once.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:24:51 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com>t/ Subject: Re: scrambled terminal output on OPA0:t9 Message-ID: <bsphbq$eu73n$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>n  6 On 2003-12-29 15:24, "briggs@encompasserve.org" wrote:   > [...]s > G > Unfortunately, I'm also not sure whether console speed is settable onjC > the VAXstation 4000.  I seem to recall that $ SET TERM /SPEED wass* > a NOOP on a lot of VAX console hardware.  F The VAXes of the 4000 series I know of (models 300 and 500) had rotaryB switches to set the console speed -- 19200 being the maximum IIRC.B Perhaps the console hardware of the VAXstation is similar to that.   Michael    -- h; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers.w@ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system.a5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.>   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:28:23 GMTb# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>a1 Subject: Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMSrK Message-ID: <rKXHb.153322$2We1.140973@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>p   David J. Dachtera wrote: > Keith Parris wrote:y >>F >> "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in= >> message news:<3FEBBA1C.B1960573@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>... @ >>> ...and, as I've asked multiple times but you've consistentlyD >>> attempted to skirt the issue, how's VMS doing now as compared to9 >>> three years ago? ...five years ago? ...ten years ago?o >>E >> VMS revenues are definitely lower at present compared with 5 or 10oG >> years ago.  There was a lot of damage done by the "port to UNIX" andc, >> "port to Windows NT" waves under Digital. >>E >> But I'm far more interested in where VMS is now, and the direction B >> revenues are heading right now.  And that looks quite positive. >pH > Really? Within what time frame do you see a significant* VMS recovery?A > Ten fiscal quarters (2-1/2 years)? 20 quarters (five years)? 40e > quarters (ten years)?m >  > ...hp stock price recovery?- > < > What would you suggest to accelerate the rate of recovery? >h) > *: At least 75% of VMS's former status.a    I How about a metric like selling 100,000 *servers* (all sizes) running VMSb exclusively each year?  J That number amounts to a tiny fraction of the total server sales worldwideL for all operating systems. It is also a number that would provide growth forK VMS, ie. fully accounts for server retirements (older Vax or Alpha machinessI being replaced), additional purchases by existing VMS customers, customereG defection losses (moving to another o/s), and sales to *new* customers.p   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:26:47 GMTe3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) . Subject: Re: strange behaviour of IF statement3 Message-ID: <bBYHb.11262$l71.5295@news.cpqcorp.net>e  w In article <bscopt$6kn$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:A; >In article <3FE9E153.A98F2C8@sture.homeip.net>, Paul Sture # ><nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes: s >d? >> When you say that J is not defined, is that really the case?d >e? >Yes.  Inspection of the code shows that it is never defined...   B Placin a SHO SYM J at the appropriate place would be more certain.   -- uJ       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2003 10:51:47 -0800 From: sdavidson@uss.comy  Subject: TCPIP$LPD_VMS_FLAGPAGES= Message-ID: <caf27c79.0312291051.61af6052@posting.google.com>s  D Compaq OpenVMS Documentation in Section 22.3 states that the logicalF TCPIP$LPD_VMS_FLAGPAGES enables the Open VMS flag page print options. . The command in Section 22.3 is: DEFINE /SYSTEMD TCPIP$LPD_VMS_FLAGPAGES, but this define does not say what to define it to.  Can anyone help?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:01:50 -0000 ( From: "Wezoly" <wezoly@blueyonder.co.uk>
 Subject: testn4 Message-ID: <bspfn0$s55$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>   test   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:24:01 GMT80 From: "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@hp.com_remove_this>* Subject: Re: VMS runs well on HP Superdome3 Message-ID: <lGXHb.11259$B81.8304@news.cpqcorp.net>s  ( The current limit in the code is 32 CPUs7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in messages# news:3FEF47A8.2E29BD7D@istop.com...t > someone didn't write:oK > > Just between us when no one else is watching....I have seen VMS runningn on > > 64 CPUs gs1280.....h >VF > All performance and support issues aside, what is the actual limit ? WouldhL > the limit be constrained by the number of bits allocated in a structure toJ > identify each CPU ?  Would it be 256 CPUs ? 512 ? 1024 ? 2**32 CPUs ? Or is > the limit elsewhere ?f   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.721 ************************