0 INFO-VAX	Tue, 07 Jan 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 14      Contents:' Backlog and connections to a TCP server  backup problems..(newbie)  Re: backup problems..(newbie)  Re: backup problems..(newbie)  Re: backup problems..(newbie)  Camelot  Re: Camelot  Re: Camelot ; Communications errors between TSM and ABC client on OpenVMS / Re: ComputerWorld: HP Is Homeland Merger  Model  DCL puzzle of the week Re: DCL puzzle of the week Re: DCL puzzle of the week! Re: Finding info on Alpha Systems 6 Re: HP: VMS is a mature product, was: Re: VMS in VegasB Re: I just wanted to share a note I sent to the group this morningB RE: I just wanted to share a note I sent to the group this morning3 Re: Inquirer articles on HP treatment of Marvel/EV7 3 Re: Inquirer articles on HP treatment of Marvel/EV7 P Re: JF and backporting features (was: Re: Machine checks not always  hardware fa' Re: Logical name security: sanity check ' Re: Logical name security: sanity check # Re: Marvel talks at The Inquirer... # Re: Marvel talks at The Inquirer... 0 OpenVMS BACKUP --> Restore in Windows NT / Linux Re: OpenVMS Branding Query Re: OpenVMS Branding Query Re: OpenVMS Branding Query OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits  Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits  Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits  Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits  Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits  Re: OT: Camelot * Re: Problem with Mini Copy during ShutdownJ Q: How to change the "compaq" logo on the VAXstation desktop to "digital"?  Question on day of month symbols$ RE: Question on day of month symbols' Question on RDB Server under VMS v7.2-1 = Reckon you can clean your own hard disk?          (03n d3e a) & RE: Recovering SYSTEM password when... Re: Telnet problem TN5250 terminal emulation % Re: VMS in Vegas (Was [OT] Lotteries) O VMS MIME (was Re: VERY ON-TOPIC:  quoted-printable shit and Mickey$chlock mail) + Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year) + RE: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year) + Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year) + Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year) + Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year) J RE: [OT} email spamfighting (was: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 06:52:02 -0800 7 From: stephen_bainbridge@yahoo.co.uk (Steve Bainbridge) 0 Subject: Backlog and connections to a TCP server= Message-ID: <a48f6f51.0301070652.387d3734@posting.google.com>    Hi,   B We have a TCP server application running on OpenVMS v7.3 and TCPIPE Services 5.1 (ECO 3). The server listens to a known port and we would C like to set it up to only receive a single connection at a time and 5 reject any other connection attempts that may arrive.    In article:    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=embryonic+group:comp.os.vms&hl=en&lr=lang_en|lang_de&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=5g1j1h%24h1l%40cronkite.cisco.com&rnum=1   it states that  B "The formula to compute maximum number of embryonic connections is7   (backlog*3/2+1)" - I've tested this and it's correct.   F So, if I set the backlog parameter to be 1 I get upto 3 connections (1> actual connection and 2 accepted, but not yet processed by theA application). Setting to zero stops me accepting any connections.   > I use the following call to set-up the backlog (SERV_BACKLOG):  . status = sys$qiow( EFN$C_ENF, /* event flag */4                    listen_channel, /* i/o channel */7                    IO$_SETMODE, /* i/o function code */ 0                    &iosb, /* i/o status block *//                    0, /* ast service routine */ )                    0, /* ast parameter */                     0, /* p1 */                    0, /* p2 */>                    &serv_itemlst, /* p3 - local socket name */>                    SERV_BACKLOG, /* p4 - connection backlog */                    0, /* p5 */                    0 /*p6 */                    );   E Is there anyway to only accept only a single connection and not queue  any other connections ?    Regards, Steve Bainbridge   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:20:25 +0000 C From: Martin Hepworth <martinh@ATsolid-state-logicoOIspammerNO.com> " Subject: backup problems..(newbie)+ Message-ID: <JRxS9.15$Gf3.303@psinet-eu-nl>    Hi guys   D Well for the past x million years our VMS systems have been running : fine. However this year the backup script isn't working...   I get this error..on all tapes  7 %BACKUP-E-FATALERR, fatal error on MKA500:[]BACKUP.BCK;  -SYSTEM-F-PARITY, parity error  ; What does this mean - broken tape drive?? broken file/disk?        --   Martin Hepworth  Senior Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Ltd  +44 (0)1865 842300   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:38:35 +0000 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>& Subject: Re: backup problems..(newbie)) Message-ID: <3E1AAE2B.97A74A7A@127.0.0.1>    Martin Hepworth wrote:  E > Well for the past x million years our VMS systems have been running < > fine. However this year the backup script isn't working... >   > I get this error..on all tapes > 9 > %BACKUP-E-FATALERR, fatal error on MKA500:[]BACKUP.BCK;   > -SYSTEM-F-PARITY, parity error > = > What does this mean - broken tape drive?? broken file/disk?   = Most likely a hardware error yes. I presume you have tried an D appropriate cleaning kit in the drive first. It is unlikely all your@ media has gone faulty simultaneously, unless cross contaminated.  H If you have errors logged against the tape drive, the error log examined? using DIAGNOSE or ANAL/ERROR (depending) may help in diagnosis.    --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:22:40 +0000 C From: Martin Hepworth <martinh@ATsolid-state-logicoOIspammerNO.com> & Subject: Re: backup problems..(newbie)+ Message-ID: <lEzS9.22$Gf3.163@psinet-eu-nl>    Nic Clews wrote: > Martin Hepworth wrote: >  > E >>Well for the past x million years our VMS systems have been running < >>fine. However this year the backup script isn't working... >>  >>I get this error..on all tapes >>9 >>%BACKUP-E-FATALERR, fatal error on MKA500:[]BACKUP.BCK;   >>-SYSTEM-F-PARITY, parity error >>= >>What does this mean - broken tape drive?? broken file/disk?  >  > ? > Most likely a hardware error yes. I presume you have tried an F > appropriate cleaning kit in the drive first. It is unlikely all yourB > media has gone faulty simultaneously, unless cross contaminated. > J > If you have errors logged against the tape drive, the error log examinedA > using DIAGNOSE or ANAL/ERROR (depending) may help in diagnosis.  >   
 Thanks Nic  I The tape drive is spitting errors. I've run and head cleaner a couple of  = time and see what happens. If not I'll to swap out the drive.    --   Martin Hepworth  Senior Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Ltd  +44 (0)1865 842300   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 03 17:42:51 +0100 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) & Subject: Re: backup problems..(newbie)) Message-ID: <170XWYeCvxOd@elias.decus.ch>   q In article <JRxS9.15$Gf3.303@psinet-eu-nl>, Martin Hepworth <martinh@ATsolid-state-logicoOIspammerNO.com> writes:  > 	 > Hi guys  > F > Well for the past x million years our VMS systems have been running < > fine. However this year the backup script isn't working... >   > I get this error..on all tapes > 9 > %BACKUP-E-FATALERR, fatal error on MKA500:[]BACKUP.BCK;   > -SYSTEM-F-PARITY, parity error > = > What does this mean - broken tape drive?? broken file/disk?  > & How often do you clean the tape drive?. How old are the tapes, and what sort are they?  = I'd suggest a few runs of a cleaning tape, followed by trying < with brand new tapes. If possible power cycle the tape drive9 before doing this (not so easy if it's an internal unit).   A Over the last few years I've come across drives, both DAT and DLT ; which have benefited from replacing the tapes with new ones ? as I worked through the backup cycle. For example, last month I ? ended a year long cycle of replacing DLT III tapes with DLT IVs ? on one system. The original DLT IIIs dated back to around 1997,  and had simply got too old.   F It could also be that the drive (or drives?) has got to the point thatA getting CSC to strip it down for a full clean solves the problem. ( I'd try with the new tapes first though.    --  
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 08:28:41 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)  Subject: Camelot3 Message-ID: <Fx4F4FxPDwTF@eisner.encompasserve.org>   T In article <3E1AAB6E.725703F2@127.0.0.1>, Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> writes: > "David J. Dachtera" wrote:  8 >> "Camelot" - that's where one goes to buy a camel, eh? > J > The location of Camelot, as in King Arthur's castle is buried in legend,H > and ranges from the bottom of the lake (Rutland Water) in the smallestJ > county in England (Rutland, which brought us Rutland Weekend Television,H > and "The Rutles" (http://www.rutles.org/) to locations in the north ofF > England, and some within the locale of Glastonbury, visible from theJ > Tor. So, no-ones found it yet, much like Monty Python failed to find theI > Holy Grail. First lesson in security is not to be seen (also subject of  > a Python sketch).   B    The location of Camelot, and the identity of it's occupants, isD    of course, time dependent.  While initial rumors had it that KingE    Author placed it somewhere in England it was later thought to have E    passed though Washington in the early 60's, temporarily usurped by     the Kennedy clan.  B    More frequently it's ghost has been seen drifting in and out ofG    Hollywood where more than one fil company has attempted to catch it. G    Some fellow named Eisner thought he had it pinned down near Orlando, 9    but it turned out to be just an animatronic fascimile.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:05:24 -0500 From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: Camelot? Message-ID: <OFD4264153.95412912-ON85256CA7.00520448@metso.com>   7 "While initial rumors had it that King Author placed it  somewhere in England"   C I though it predated that Stephen King author by some centuries....     J From:  koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) on 01/07/2003        09:28 AM   G Please respond to koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)    To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com cc:    Subject:    Camelot     3 In article <3E1AAB6E.725703F2@127.0.0.1>, Nic Clews   <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> writes: > "David J. Dachtera" wrote:  8 >> "Camelot" - that's where one goes to buy a camel, eh? > J > The location of Camelot, as in King Arthur's castle is buried in legend,H > and ranges from the bottom of the lake (Rutland Water) in the smallestJ > county in England (Rutland, which brought us Rutland Weekend Television,H > and "The Rutles" (http://www.rutles.org/) to locations in the north ofF > England, and some within the locale of Glastonbury, visible from theJ > Tor. So, no-ones found it yet, much like Monty Python failed to find theI > Holy Grail. First lesson in security is not to be seen (also subject of  > a Python sketch).   B    The location of Camelot, and the identity of it's occupants, isD    of course, time dependent.  While initial rumors had it that KingE    Author placed it somewhere in England it was later thought to have E    passed though Washington in the early 60's, temporarily usurped by     the Kennedy clan.  B    More frequently it's ghost has been seen drifting in and out ofG    Hollywood where more than one fil company has attempted to catch it. G    Some fellow named Eisner thought he had it pinned down near Orlando, 9    but it turned out to be just an animatronic fascimile.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 03 18:06:07 +0100 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)  Subject: Re: Camelot) Message-ID: <80p1vfcrfczz@elias.decus.ch>   ^ In article <OFD4264153.95412912-ON85256CA7.00520448@metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes: >  > 9 > "While initial rumors had it that King Author placed it  > somewhere in England"  > B Another legend concerning King Arthur has him located in Tintagel,) Cornwall (the SW tip of the UK mainland).   . http://www.tintagelweb.co.uk/King%20Arthur.htm  5 Follow the links from that site to loads more info...     --  
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 02:06:38 -0800 ' From: vms_student2002@yahoo.com (Jason) D Subject: Communications errors between TSM and ABC client on OpenVMS= Message-ID: <77e1caeb.0301070206.4aa44dac@posting.google.com>   F Hi there I just want to know if anyone can help with this problem that& I'm currently expierence on my system.  C The ABC (Archive Backup Client) client or the sessions running when F TSM gets rebooted, do not detect the loss of connectivity and does notE recover from it.If it fails, it is scheduled to startup again, but it  does not happend that way.  F The session, which was archiving the Oracle logfiles at the time, keptB running, but did not do anything. The ABC client did not detect or= recover from this broken connection with the TSM server side.   C This resulted in the database running out of archive logfile space,   and causes the database to hang.    F Any suggestions that might cause the problem and is there a workaround or solution to this problem.   Thank you in advanced  Jason Rumano   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:39:48 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> 8 Subject: Re: ComputerWorld: HP Is Homeland Merger  Model; Message-ID: <01KQY8B63S0I9ZLF2M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   I > >ComputerWorld reports that "White House officials are quietly studying I > >this year's merger of Hewlett-Packard Co. and Compaq Computer Corp. in H > >an effort to enhance their chances of succeeding in the mother of allB > >mergers: the formation of the Department of Homeland Security."T > > http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,76771,00.html > K > So now the government will annihilate all of its existing departments and 4 > programs to incorporate and bolster Micro$oft too?  C No, Bush's secret plan is to install Capellas as new Iraqi head of  G state.  If THAT doesn't completely destroy the country, nothing will.    :-)    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 17:03:37 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>  Subject: DCL puzzle of the week ; Message-ID: <01KQYL3VB7XSA24IEW@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   B Here's an excerpt from the log file of a batch job which I cannot . explain.  Yes, it has occurred more than once.  : $    rpt_fspec = "DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;*" $ ( $    if ( f$search(rpt_fspec) .NES. "" )	 $    then ; $       delete /log DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;* Q %DELETE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;*  -RMS-E-FNF, file not found
 $    endif  G The only plausible explanation seems to be that the files were deleted  I by something else between the "if" and the "delete", but this is not the  G case.  The files still exist.  Interestingly, based on the timestamps,  F the files were not actually there when the log file for the batch job E was created, but rather have creation dates about 20 seconds later.   G Thus, it is not clear if F$SEARCH or DELETE is doing something funny.   E To narrow this down, with SET PREFIX I will find out when the delete  E command occurs and compare that to the timestamps, but extra brownie  A points of course if you can solve the mystery without this extra   information.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:53:31 -00002 From: "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam># Subject: Re: DCL puzzle of the week 4 Message-ID: <avf0n5$fq6$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>  H I've seen weird & wonderful errors following f$search (on V7.3): can getJ %rms-f-dme in unexpected places, if the directory size is near to PIOPAGES (default 575 pagelets). J If that's the case, I'd recommend tidying the offending directory: make itA (much) smaller, and try using "dfu dir/comp/trunc" to organise it  efficiently.K (Dave) Carr in support is trying to reproduce the problem, thus far without ( success I believe - it's fairly elusive.F If the problem is something else, you could use security audits to logI changes to the directory, to trace exactly what's going on, together with  set prefix.   
 Chris Sharman   F "Phillip Helbig" <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in message5 news:01KQYL3VB7XSA24IEW@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com... C > Here's an excerpt from the log file of a batch job which I cannot 0 > explain.  Yes, it has occurred more than once. > < > $    rpt_fspec = "DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;*" > $ * > $    if ( f$search(rpt_fspec) .NES. "" ) > $    then = > $       delete /log DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;* + > %DELETE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for ' DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;*  > -RMS-E-FNF, file not found > $    endif > H > The only plausible explanation seems to be that the files were deletedJ > by something else between the "if" and the "delete", but this is not theH > case.  The files still exist.  Interestingly, based on the timestamps,G > the files were not actually there when the log file for the batch job E > was created, but rather have creation dates about 20 seconds later. G > Thus, it is not clear if F$SEARCH or DELETE is doing something funny. F > To narrow this down, with SET PREFIX I will find out when the deleteF > command occurs and compare that to the timestamps, but extra brownieB > points of course if you can solve the mystery without this extra > information.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 19:02:32 +0100 1 From: John McLean <mcleanj@swissonline.delete.ch> # Subject: Re: DCL puzzle of the week 5 Message-ID: <3E1B1638.79A9803D@swissonline.delete.ch>    Phillip Helbig wrote:  > C > Here's an excerpt from the log file of a batch job which I cannot 0 > explain.  Yes, it has occurred more than once. > < > $    rpt_fspec = "DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;*" > $ * > $    if ( f$search(rpt_fspec) .NES. "" ) > $    then = > $       delete /log DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;* S > %DELETE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for DSA103:[PND01.RPT.CIXXX]*CI400_IDM*.*;*  > -RMS-E-FNF, file not found > $    endif > H > The only plausible explanation seems to be that the files were deletedJ > by something else between the "if" and the "delete", but this is not theH > case.  The files still exist.  Interestingly, based on the timestamps,G > the files were not actually there when the log file for the batch job E > was created, but rather have creation dates about 20 seconds later. G > Thus, it is not clear if F$SEARCH or DELETE is doing something funny. F > To narrow this down, with SET PREFIX I will find out when the deleteF > command occurs and compare that to the timestamps, but extra brownieB > points of course if you can solve the mystery without this extra > information.    > 1.  Have you checked what f$search(rpt_fspec) is returning ?    ? 2.  Have you checked that the zeroes are coded as 0 and not O ?   + 3.  Ditto 1 and l  (one and lower case L) ?   G 4.  Have you included a DIRECTORY command just before the delete to see  what files are there ?  A 5.  Is it possible that F$SEARCH is finding just one file but the G context of the wildcard search is being retained and that the delete is E actually looking forward from the one file that has been found ?  (It D shouldn't happen but you can use F$SEARCH("SYS$LOGIN:*.*") to really( ensure that the context has been reset.)     John McLean    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 17:37:53 GMT 6 From: "Dan Notov" <danno_does_not_like_spam@large.com>* Subject: Re: Finding info on Alpha Systems? Message-ID: <RfES9.479879$GR5.181531@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>   4 "Carl Perkins" <carl@gerg.tamu.edu> wrote in message& news:6JAN200318595205@gerg.tamu.edu...$ > "ICUSC" <sales@hpaq.net> writes...1 > }Now go to hp.com or compaq.com and try to find  > }anything about alpha systems  > } ' > }For the layman, Alphas DO NOT EXIST.  > }  > }Sad... very sad ! > }  > }DT  > }  > }--  > }Island Computers US Corp. >  > It isn't that hard to get to.  >  > 1) Go to www.hp.com  > 2) click on "enterprise" > 3) click on "servers"  I can do that in one click:  1) Go to www.hp.com  2) Click on "servers"         
 > --- Carl /danno   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 11:19:12 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> ? Subject: Re: HP: VMS is a mature product, was: Re: VMS in Vegas ; Message-ID: <01KQY9M6BS7M9ZLF2M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   ; > Well, HP does consider VMS to be a "mature product". See:   E Of course.  There are some other so-called operating systems which I  @ would term "immature products".  The term has been perverted by F marketroid doublespeak; "mature" was originally a positive term---not C unlike, in fact, "legacy", such as in "a Mercedes-Benz is a legacy  A automobile" meaning that it can look back upon a long and proven  H tradition.  Of course, Mercedes-Benz cars are still being developed and " improved and you can buy new ones.   SET POST/MODE=CYNICAL   G On the other hand, if you walk into a Mercedes-Benz dealership and say  B that you are interested in buying a Mercedes-Benz automobile, the 9 salesman will try to sell you a Mercedes-Benz automobile.    SET POST/MODE=NOCYNICAL    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:02:38 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> K Subject: Re: I just wanted to share a note I sent to the group this morning ; Message-ID: <01KQY6ZTK3ZM9ZLF2M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   M > Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have...   G Well, this is known as a "selection effect".  Only those who are still  H around can remember the past.  It would be a mistake to assume that the + experience of those who survive is typical.   F Sure, some things WERE better in the past, and some things were worse.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:37:54 -0000- From: "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> K Subject: RE: I just wanted to share a note I sent to the group this morning E Message-ID: <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA63CB111@tahiti.tinuk.com>    > -----Original Message-----; > From: David J. Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@fsi.net]=20  > Sent: 07 January 2003 01:21  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com = > Subject: Re: I just wanted to share a note I sent to the=20  > group this morning >=20 >=20 > Brian Tillman wrote: > >=205 > > >Remember when English was our national language?  > >=20B > > It's difficult to remember something that was never there. =20 > At no time=20 G > > has English ever been the "national language" of the United States.  >=20@ > I find it interesting that no one even tried to distinguish=206 > between "national language" and "official language". >=20 > --=20  > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ >=20- > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:=20 ! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  >=20 >=20  B I thought about making that point, but really couldn't be arsed... Perhaps I'm getting old.   ;^D    Steve S    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 05:36:16 -0800 ( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)< Subject: Re: Inquirer articles on HP treatment of Marvel/EV7= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0301070536.5e9d1d25@posting.google.com>   \ Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com> wrote in message news:<01C2B581.0CCB1680@sulfer.icius.com>...F > I hope these aren't reposts, my link to the group was down for a fewA > days but I didn't see references to them when I did some google  > searching on the group:  >  > Marvel thrashing Superdome:  > * > http://www.theinquirer.org/?article=7045 > 0 > HP Suppressing benchmarks in favour of Itanic: > * > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7034 > - > Here the quote I have most trouble with is:  > F > "And, we understand, the HP suits have now laid down a diktat sayingA > that not one Alpha benchmark will be released until the Itanium  > platform(s) is/are faster."  > 7 > I really don't need to add any further comment, do I?  >  > Shane   @ this looks like a case of NIH ... Not Invented Here syndrome ...   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 07:48:08 -0600 B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)< Subject: Re: Inquirer articles on HP treatment of Marvel/EV73 Message-ID: <5s1ycY8slZZE@eisner.encompasserve.org>   W In article <01C2B581.0CCB1680@sulfer.icius.com>, Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com> writes:  > 0 > HP Suppressing benchmarks in favour of Itanic: > * > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7034 > - > Here the quote I have most trouble with is:  > F > "And, we understand, the HP suits have now laid down a diktat sayingA > that not one Alpha benchmark will be released until the Itanium  > platform(s) is/are faster."  >   D In the old days, it used to be the job of epoxy resin to cripple VMS> capable systems. Now that seems to be the job of HP marketing.  5 	"HP Marketing: The epoxy resin of the 21st century".    Unbelievable. :-(    Simon.   --  B Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       & "This is VMS. Viruses are irrelevant."   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:14:51 -0000* From: "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net>Y Subject: Re: JF and backporting features (was: Re: Machine checks not always  hardware fa 5 Message-ID: <ave9b9$e281t$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>   = "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote in message ) news:3E1A5D50.720481EC@vl.videotron.ca...  > G > Also, if I have a VS42A-BD  (model 30), does this mean that I can put  > large drives on it ?8 > Or am I prevented because it is used as a vaxstation ? > K > Is there a way from VMS to find out if the system disk is mounted using 6  > or 10 byte SCSI subsystem? >    Perhaps you miss a detail.B The 1Gb limitation has NOTHING to do with VMS 'mounting' the disk.H It is EVERYTHING to do with the console code cannot generate LBN's large' enough to address disk space above 1Gb. H The problem is this. You COULD put a 200Gb disk in there, it would work,G *BUT* as soon as you put ANY ONE of the files that the CONSOLE needs to J access when booting the system ABOVE 1Gb you render the system UNBOOTABLE.J You could manually place all of the relevant files inside the first 1Gb (IB have done so on a 9Gb disk, and it works), BUT as soon as you do aF backup/restore your careful file placement goes out the window and the8 console cannot find a file needed to boot the system....  I You CAN put large DATA disks on the system, DEC/CPQ/HP cannot 'support' a J SYSTEM disk larger than 1Gb because no-one will pay for the work needed toL make the console ROMs contain code able to address all of the LBN's on those
 larger disks.        JT:   H > Isn't Sue supposed to make sure these things NEVER happen ? Perhaps weL > need to send her a whip so she can make sure the engineers behave  :-) :-) >   E We are talking about work that was done in the order of 15 years ago. K Anyway, Sue does not need a whip, a little gentle sweet talking and all the ( engineers line up to kiss her boots. :-)       JT:      --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/2002    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:03:55 +0100$ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>0 Subject: Re: Logical name security: sanity check+ Message-ID: <00A199FF.9B37FDE7.15@decus.de>   3 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote:    > If I do the following: > : > $CREATE/NAME_TABLE/PARENT=LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY CHOCOLATE4 > $SET SECURITY CHOCOLATE/CLASS=LOGICAL_NAME_TABLE -' > /OWNER=COOK /PROT=(W,G,O:RWCD,S:RWCD)  > 0 > Can I be assured that the only folks who couldC > do a list of logical names in the table, SHOW LOG/TABLE=CHOCOLATE  > or> > extract the value of a known logical name in that table SHOW# > LOG/TABLE=CHOCOLATE SECRET_RECIPE  >  > would be:  >  > User name COOK,  > users in the SYSTEM group  > users with SYSPRV  > users with bypass ? , > installed imaged with sysprv and/or bypass > ) > Are there others I should worry about ?  > N > That logical name table will contain a pointed to a file that contains clear( > passwords, so I want to protect it :-)  A Users with a UIC group less than or equal to the (dynamic) SYSGEN  parameter MAXSYSGROUP?  D Users which claim to be modest and ask only for the single privilege SETPRV?    Michael    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 11:58:20 -0600  From: briggs@encompasserve.org0 Subject: Re: Logical name security: sanity check3 Message-ID: <z994XAgKZA8H@eisner.encompasserve.org>   b In article <3E19CF0E.9BC4E58A@vl.videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> writes: > If I do the following: > : > $CREATE/NAME_TABLE/PARENT=LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY CHOCOLATE4 > $SET SECURITY CHOCOLATE/CLASS=LOGICAL_NAME_TABLE -( > 	/OWNER=COOK /PROT=(W,G,O:RWCD,S:RWCD) > 1 > Can I be assured that the only folks who could  D > do a list of logical names in the table, SHOW LOG/TABLE=CHOCOLATE  > or  > > extract the value of a known logical name in that table SHOW# > LOG/TABLE=CHOCOLATE SECRET_RECIPE  >  > would be:  >  > User name COOK,  > users in the SYSTEM group  > users with SYSPRV  > users with bypass ? , > installed imaged with sysprv and/or bypass  B I think SYSNAM also grants implicit SYSPRV for purposes of logical name table permissions.   E I've been trying to think like a cracker but haven't come up with any F nifty penetration schemes.  The obvious move would be to try to coerce> a privileged program into opening a file named "SECRET_RECIPE"= while LNM$FILE_DEV points to "CHOCOLATE".  Then, if you could G get a peek at an error message or parsed file name, you could crack the : table's contents.  But that depends on the existence of an7 installed image that isn't as paranoid as it should be.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 11:30:47 GMT 9 From: Alan Adams <alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> , Subject: Re: Marvel talks at The Inquirer...? Message-ID: <443a0ab14b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>   5 In message <00A1991C.B14953C6@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> W           winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr") wrote:   H > In article <n9gS9.179757$yW.86178@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com( >, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: > > B > >That's why they sold uVMS on it initially instead of the 'full'F > >version of VMS. Many companies didn't know how easy or difficult itF > >would be to 'port' from VMS 3.x or 4.x on a 780 or 750 to uVMS on aI > >MVII, and DEC wan't about to help them do it, so many companies stayed  > >locked into 750/780 systems.  > N > It certainly wasn't my impression at the time that uVMS was anything but VMSJ > (possibly pre-tailored to be installable from only 26 floppies) with theK > possible addition of DECwindows support.  I'm pretty sure I saw marketing M > literature that said applications should just run without even a recompile.   K And they did. MicroVMS was tailored during installation, so it would fit on E the small system disk. Tailoring was slow, but worked. The main thing K missing from our perspective was clustering. That arrived when full VMS was K available for the Microvax. However unser VMS4 we had our MVII talking very I successfully to our cluster (758, 780, 785) over Decnet, and by including K the nodename in filespecs, pretty much everything ran. Being able to run an I image stored on a cluster disk was an unexpected surprise. Maybe I should H have expected it, but it didn't seem to be the sort of thing that should work.    --  
 Alan Adams& alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:39:45 -0500 ( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>, Subject: Re: Marvel talks at The Inquirer..., Message-ID: <3E1B10E1.5050205@tsoft-inc.com>   Didier Morandi wrote:   K > Maybe you do not know that our (really) beloved DEC company did the same eJ > when the uVAX-I came. It was the glorious time of the 11-780. The first G > communication from HW Engineering about the uVAX chip has been "Hey! bK > It's faster than a 780!!!" (i.e. 1 MIPS). We did a wonderful show in the  - > Eiffel Tower in Paris for its announcement.r > G > What happened? Top level mgt said: " No! It will have a spec of 0,89   > MIPS" (or so)C > J > I used to be the VMS Marketing specialist at DEC France at that time. I J > went to my boss and said: "This is not honest. Why don't we communicate I > on these good engineering news?". Boss answered: "You have still a lot rK > to learn, boy. This result is bad marketing news for the 780 and we make   > more money selling 780s".m    N The only thing you had to learn was how stupid DEC would become.  They should M have put the new chip into a 780 follow-on, and sold it cheaper.  They never i' learned that quantity is the way to go.i     > End of story.n     End of DEC!a   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:47:34 -0800 (PST). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>9 Subject: OpenVMS BACKUP --> Restore in Windows NT / Linux @ Message-ID: <20030107174734.71537.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com>  	 Dear Sirs    Happy new year ! K  2 Is there a way to restore OpenVMS backup save sets5 in Windows NT or Linux ??? Any product ? Freeweare or  commercial ?  5 Or just coping to a tape (using $ COPY) and restoringi
 in a PC ?    Regards?   FC i     =====f ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazily fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?5 Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.s http://mailplus.yahoo.comO   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:46:24 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> # Subject: Re: OpenVMS Branding Querya; Message-ID: <01KQY6HQM00I9ZLF2M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   M > openVMS refers to a dark age of VMS when Palmer was actively trying to kills > it.  > M > VMS refers to its glory days when VMS was poised to take over the world and- > could have crushed Gates.  > O > "open" was a fad, a "soupe du jour" that no longer has meaning and hasn't had N > meaning for a long time. It was wrong to take a temporary buzzword to a longO > lasting operating system. The insistence to preserve the OPEN makes it harderiN > for customers to beleieve that the new owner intends to do thing differently > with VMS.   ; Wise man say "there are lies, damn lies, and open systems".t   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:16:37 +0000a( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1># Subject: Re: OpenVMS Branding Query&) Message-ID: <3E1A9AF5.BB6121F4@127.0.0.1>g   Phillip Helbig wrote:c > O > > openVMS refers to a dark age of VMS when Palmer was actively trying to kill  > > it.n > > O > > VMS refers to its glory days when VMS was poised to take over the world andl > > could have crushed Gates.  > >nQ > > "open" was a fad, a "soupe du jour" that no longer has meaning and hasn't hadtP > > meaning for a long time. It was wrong to take a temporary buzzword to a longQ > > lasting operating system. The insistence to preserve the OPEN makes it hardertP > > for customers to beleieve that the new owner intends to do thing differently
 > > with VMS.* > = > Wise man say "there are lies, damn lies, and open systems".c  F I asked Mark Gorham a question about renaming OpenVMS back to VMS at aH DECUS (sic) event last year in the Q&A, and his answer was that they hadH learned that renaming caused problems that they wanted to avoid with yet( another rename, so it was very unlikely.  G For an internal company newsletter, I wrote an article entitled "VMS is D dead Long Live OpenVMS" and I had some interesting positive feedback from it.   -- n? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciencesv nclews at csc dot com-   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:51:17 -0400t0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca># Subject: Re: OpenVMS Branding Queryn/ Message-ID: <3E1B0583.255030B6@vl.videotron.ca>l   Nic Clews wrote:J > DECUS (sic) event last year in the Q&A, and his answer was that they hadJ > learned that renaming caused problems that they wanted to avoid with yet* > another rename, so it was very unlikely.    J But the first rename is what is hurting VMS, it never really caught on andM still confuses people. So it isn't a question of renaming VMS back to VMS, itSI is a question of Digital/Compaq/HP stopping the use the "open" word which- would stop the confusion.a   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 09:14:14 -08002+ From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey)i" Subject: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits= Message-ID: <e565ed03.0301070914.6881a7d2@posting.google.com>i  E The OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits have been remastered, and are scheduled D to begin shipping Jan 20th once we get them back from manufacturing.F The new OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits have been remastered with the latestA O/S and current versions of selected Layered Products.  We're nowpF accepting orders for the new kit from the OpenVMS Hobbyist Web Site at  http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist   The disk contents are:  / OpenVMS V7.3         DECWindows 1.2.6 (Motif)  u' DECnet Phase IV      DECnet OSI Phase Va& TCPIP V5.1           Kerberos VAX V1.0" BASIC V3.9           Compaq C V6.4  Compaq FORTRAN V6.6  Pascal V5.8! DCPS V2.0            DECSet V12.4  Datatrieve V7.2,   - David L. Cathey    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 03 18:54:19 +0100-) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)a& Subject: Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits) Message-ID: <W6CHH5rBzKWi@elias.decus.ch>r  k In article <e565ed03.0301070914.6881a7d2@posting.google.com>, davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:tG > The OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits have been remastered, and are scheduled F > to begin shipping Jan 20th once we get them back from manufacturing.H > The new OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits have been remastered with the latestC > O/S and current versions of selected Layered Products.  We're nowIH > accepting orders for the new kit from the OpenVMS Hobbyist Web Site at" > http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist >  > The disk contents are: > 1 > OpenVMS V7.3         DECWindows 1.2.6 (Motif)  r) > DECnet Phase IV      DECnet OSI Phase V ( > TCPIP V5.1           Kerberos VAX V1.0$ > BASIC V3.9           Compaq C V6.4" > Compaq FORTRAN V6.6  Pascal V5.8# > DCPS V2.0            DECSet V12.4O > Datatrieve V7.2e >   , Congratulations and thanks for your efforts.  C I'll just remind everyone that Hobbyists wishing to use this kit on 7 Alpha systems in a cluster should disable the XFC cachet1 (by setting the SYSGEN parameter VCC_FLAGS to 1).s   -- s
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:58:01 -040030 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>& Subject: Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits/ Message-ID: <3E1B0717.22F1E0BB@vl.videotron.ca>.   "David L. Cathey" wrote:( > TCPIP V5.1           Kerberos VAX V1.0  C Is there a specific reason for including TCPIP 5.1 instead of 5.3 ?    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:35:40 +0000 (UTC)+ From: david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb)o& Subject: Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits+ Message-ID: <avf6ls$agr$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   k In article <e565ed03.0301070914.6881a7d2@posting.google.com>, davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:kF >The OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits have been remastered, and are scheduledE >to begin shipping Jan 20th once we get them back from manufacturing.iG >The new OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits have been remastered with the latestlB >O/S and current versions of selected Layered Products.  We're nowG >accepting orders for the new kit from the OpenVMS Hobbyist Web Site at ! >http://www.montagar.com/hobbyistl >n >The disk contents are:  >s0 >OpenVMS V7.3         DECWindows 1.2.6 (Motif)  ( >DECnet Phase IV      DECnet OSI Phase V' >TCPIP V5.1           Kerberos VAX V1.0o# >BASIC V3.9           Compaq C V6.4d! >Compaq FORTRAN V6.6  Pascal V5.8p" >DCPS V2.0            DECSet V12.4 >Datatrieve V7.2 >r >- David L. Cathey  L Are the latest OS and DEC TCPIP services different for VAX than they are for ALPHA ?   $ For Alpha the latest OS is VMS 7.3-1* and the latest DEC TCPIP services is v 5.3  
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:44:14 +0100, From: "Reinhard Eigner" <antispam@garnix.de>& Subject: Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits/ Message-ID: <avf722$4rv$06$1@news.t-online.com>   > "David L. Cathey" <davidc@montagar.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag7 news:e565ed03.0301070914.6881a7d2@posting.google.com... G > The OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits have been remastered, and are scheduledmF > to begin shipping Jan 20th once we get them back from manufacturing.H > The new OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kits have been remastered with the latestC > O/S and current versions of selected Layered Products.  We're now H > accepting orders for the new kit from the OpenVMS Hobbyist Web Site at" > http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist  L How long I have to wait until I can order the new OpenVMS Alpha Hobbyist Kit
 from you??   Reinhard   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 19:15:00 +0100s1 From: John McLean <mcleanj@swissonline.delete.ch>r Subject: Re: OT: Camelot5 Message-ID: <3E1B1924.31BDFD9B@swissonline.delete.ch>u   Paul Sture wrote:e > ` > In article <OFD4264153.95412912-ON85256CA7.00520448@metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes: > >i > >h; > > "While initial rumors had it that King Author placed itm > > somewhere in England"s > >mD > Another legend concerning King Arthur has him located in Tintagel,+ > Cornwall (the SW tip of the UK mainland).t > 0 > http://www.tintagelweb.co.uk/King%20Arthur.htm > 7 > Follow the links from that site to loads more info...m    E Tintagel is the legend but there are other theories.  Maybe he was in1
 Scotland ?  F see  http://www.templum.freeserve.co.uk/history/strathclyde/arthur.htm  2 or  http://www.magicdragon.com/Wallace/arthur.html  C or  http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/9-8-19101-23-50-13.htmlr  : or  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/642973.stm    @ and there are a whole lot more references if you search the web.     John McLeanl   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:42:12 +0100 (MET)e9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>23 Subject: Re: Problem with Mini Copy during Shutdown"; Message-ID: <01KQY65AZG9E9ZLF2M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>h  D > I have three OpenVMS computers (OpenVMS V7.3-1)in a ethernet-basedC > cluster.  Each node has its own system disk, and two of the threeeH > serve out two disks that form a shadow set.  A short picture is below:   > Each system has a command/  C >    MOUNT/SYSTEM/NOASSIST  DSA0:/SHADOW=($31$DKA200:,$32$DKA200:) h   > to mount the shadow set.    F > What I desire is to reboot NODEA without incurring a full shadow setC > copy operation.  So, before the shutdown of NODEA I performed the  > following on NODEB:   ) >    dism/cluster $31$DKA200:/policy=minim  I Since I have essentially the same architecture in my hobbyist setup, and WG the same desire, please forward me any responses you get WHICH ARE NOT gG IN THE NEWSGROUP.  (I actually haven't done a reboot since moving some rI things from single disk to two-volume shadow sets, and now need to do my y3 first post-shadow reboot after patch installation).H   Thanks in advance.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 08:42:16 -0800E) From: christian@karg.org (Christian Karg)lS Subject: Q: How to change the "compaq" logo on the VAXstation desktop to "digital"?-= Message-ID: <7b342c68.0301070842.5e8799bb@posting.google.com>@  C I just got my VAXstation 4000/90A booted up under OpenVMS 7.3 usingcE the LCSPX internal graphics adapter. For nostalgia, I want to replace5D the startup logo of "compaq" with a "digital" logo. Does anyone knowF how to do this? Does anyone have the "digital" logo in the appropriate file format?  
 Best Regards, 	 Christian    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 15:57:37 GMT " From: "Oscar Lerma" <o@rgv.rr.com>) Subject: Question on day of month symbolss7 Message-ID: <RNCS9.5224$Pb.40329@twister.austin.rr.com>l   Hello,  L I am working on a DCL COM file that will need to retrieve the first and last. date of the previous month.  For example sinceH today is 7-Jan-2003 I would need to retrieve 1-Dec-2002 and 31-Dec-2002. Any help would be appreciated.   thanks,i OscarI   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:20:52 -0500$ From: Mike Duffy <Duffy@process.com>- Subject: RE: Question on day of month symbolsr> Message-ID: <63D30D6E10CFD11190A90000F805FE860492AF5D@LESPAUL>  4 Since there's a leading space in dates from the 1st 1 through the 9th, I might try something like this:e  " 1) Get today's date: " 7-JAN-2003"    Use f$ext(0,11,f$time())s  6 2) Replace the first two bytes by " 1" (" 1-JAN-2003")  / 3) Subtract one day: f$cvtime(" 1-JAN-2003-1-")k/    There's the last day of the previous month: r8    2002-12-31 (mangle the format back to "31-DEC-2002".)  . 4) Replace the first two bytes of the previous1    day by " 1".  There's your other desired date:     " 1-DEC-2002".l  6 You don't have to know how many days are in each month2 or about leap years, and it should be fairly fast.   -Mike Duffy:       > -----Original Message-----) > From: Oscar Lerma [mailto:o@rgv.rr.com] * > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:58 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComK+ > Subject: Question on day of month symbols  >  >  > Hello, > @ > I am working on a DCL COM file that will need to retrieve the  > first and last0 > date of the previous month.  For example since> > today is 7-Jan-2003 I would need to retrieve 1-Dec-2002 and  > 31-Dec-2002.  > Any help would be appreciated. > 	 > thanks,e > Oscar  >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:01:35 -0500+ From: "Andrew Robert" <arobert@townisp.com>t0 Subject: Question on RDB Server under VMS v7.2-1/ Message-ID: <v1lqtrn3642k93@corp.supernews.com>    Hi Everyone,    G According to the notes described at web page below, row read caching ispL available from RDB v 7.0.1 and read/write caching is available from 7.0.1.5.  L http://otn.oracle.com/products/rdb/htdocs/rdb7/enhancing_application_perf_ro wcache.htmld  D Has anyone implemented this? If so, did you experience any gotcha's?  + Does it collide with the settings for VIOC?   5 Do these options require AIJ journaling to implement?I  A I am running at high enough a version to implement either option.f  = Any feedback anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.$  
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 $ mcr mime exit $ @mime.com/out=mime.out $ sear mime.outdL A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0/STAT' Files searched: 1 Buffered I/O count: 5i( Records searched: 66 Direct I/O count: 1( Characters searched: 132 Page faults: 242 Records matched: 0 Elapsed CPU time: 0 00:00:00.00, Lines printed: 0 Elapsed time: 0 00:00:00.00' %SEARCH-I-NOMATCHES, no strings matchedu5 $ sear xx.xx " " /window=0 /stat ! That is two spaces ' Files searched: 1 Buffered I/O count: 6y( Records searched: 66 Direct I/O count: 1( Characters searched: 132 Page faults: 263 Records matched: 66 Elapsed CPU time: 0 00:00:00.01o, Lines printed: 1 Elapsed time: 0 00:00:00.00 $p  ! 66 lines of two spaces each??????d     -- Peter WeaverD Opinions are my own, and do not reflect the opinions of my employer,A nor the company that it sub-contracts to, nor the company that it  sub-contracts to.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:26:54 +0000r( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>4 Subject: Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year)) Message-ID: <3E1AAB6E.725703F2@127.0.0.1>c   "David J. Dachtera" wrote: >  > Arne Vajhj wrote:    > > I can not go into specifics. > > 9 > > But I can assure you that the security around Camelot " > > and its systems are very high. > 7 > "Camelot" - that's where one goes to buy a camel, eh?   H The location of Camelot, as in King Arthur's castle is buried in legend,F and ranges from the bottom of the lake (Rutland Water) in the smallestH county in England (Rutland, which brought us Rutland Weekend Television,F and "The Rutles" (http://www.rutles.org/) to locations in the north ofD England, and some within the locale of Glastonbury, visible from theH Tor. So, no-ones found it yet, much like Monty Python failed to find theG Holy Grail. First lesson in security is not to be seen (also subject of  a Python sketch).p  G The 'other' Camel I know and love is the UK progressive rock group from E the early 1970s with some recently reissued and remastered works, whoxH had a little fall-out with Camel cigarettes in the US over album covers.A Similarly relatively unknown in the mainstream but dedicated fansi7 compare them with some of the greats in the rock world.a  F On the subject of renames, while the UK lottery group are still calledD Camelot, they renamed the National Lottery 'game' to Lotto employingF Billy Connolly, who's TV exposure seems currently to be limited to theG adverts for the rebranding which doesn't seem to be helping lift sales.a  E If the marketing of OpenVMS were to be undertaken using a comedian in H the UK, I'd recommend Peter Kay. As part of his stand-up, his phrase forE booking a package holiday through "teletext", is a simple "booked it, G packed it, f***ed off" which I believe drew the brewers of John Smith's @ "no nonsense" beer to use him in their advertising, remember theD "bombing" as the 'dive' at the Commonwealth games, the current phoneE call from the little girl while daddy is out having a curry "it's nothH the wardrobe monsters, it's the burglars breaking in the window you need to be frightened of" advert.  E Peter could be HP's Mr. No Nonsense for OpenVMS. However, "Bought it,rC booted it, and f***ed off" probably needs a little work to become as	 campaign.t   --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciencesg nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:33:35 -0000- From: "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com>t4 Subject: RE: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year)E Message-ID: <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA63CB110@tahiti.tinuk.com>    > -----Original Message-----: > From: Alan E. Feldman [mailto:spamsink2001@yahoo.com]=20 > Sent: 06 January 2003 23:54v > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comw6 > Subject: Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year) >=20 >=205 > Arne Vajh=F8j <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote in message=20t' > news:<3E19951D.1030701@vajhoej.dk>...h > [...]e? > > Smart people have found out that it is better to play on=20s > numbers close=20 > > to each other !n > >=20< > > Ofcourse every combination has the exact same probablityF > > of winning, but most people that pick their numbers manual pick=20I > > numbers almost equally spaced over the range. Therefore if numbers=20iE > > close to each other are picked, then there will be fewer rigth=20s' > > combinations meaning higher prizes.D > >=20 > > :-)i > >=20 > > Arne >=20; > Hell, you may as well pick 1 2 3 4 5 ... They're close=20iB > together and who else is going to pick this combo? Plus, it's=20 > easier to check if you won.w >=20> > "But wait", some might say, "that'll never come up!". But=202 > it's just as likely as any other set of numbers. >=20 > &-)l >=20 > Disclaimer: JMHO > Alan E. Feldmana >=20 >=20 >=20  J In the UK this is apparently the most popular combination ['1 2 3 4 5 6' == in our case - 6 from 49] so is it laziness or something else?a   ;^Dt  
 Steve S=20   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jan 2003 10:57:04 -0000i4 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>4 Subject: Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year)6 Message-ID: <20030107105704.31728.qmail@nym.alias.net>  > On Tue, 07 Jan 2003, Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> wrote:  F >Peter could be HP's Mr. No Nonsense for OpenVMS. However, "Bought it,D >booted it, and f***ed off" probably needs a little work to become a
 >campaign.   Well, it could always be 1  =    "Bought it, booted it, and the Script Kiddies f***ed off."n     Doc. -- e6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.netaK                                                    http://althacker.cjb.net    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:56:56 -0500- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>h4 Subject: Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year)5 Message-ID: <avf2l5$f5upq$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>t   Alan E. Feldman wrote: >...E > Hell, you may as well pick 1 2 3 4 5 ... They're close together andrE > who else is going to pick this combo? Plus, it's easier to check ifT
 > you won. >uH > "But wait", some might say, "that'll never come up!". But it's just as% > likely as any other set of numbers.t >U > &-)L >  > Disclaimer: JMHO > Alan E. Feldmane  I That is something I have said many times, if you won how many phone calls,L would you get from reporters saying "How did you every come up with that setG of numbers?" How much time would you have to spend convincing them that.J 1,2,3,4,5,6 is just as likely as any other six numbers? I would think thisL would be fun, but there are probably half a dozen other people who think the same.e  K A very long time ago, a friend of mine told me that he had a friend who wasrB a teacher and she was looking for someone who knew something aboutI computers. I talked to her on the phone and she told me that she had beeneL studying the 6/49 (?? - maybe it was pre-6/49) lottery and she knew that sheL could predict the next set of numbers. She needed someone to write a program0 that would list all combinations of numbers but;8     - Exclude numbers below 6 because they never came upA     - Exclude any two sequential numbers since they never came up/7     - Exclude numbers above 43 since they never came up4C     - Exclude some other idiotic things that I can not remember noweE Once she had that list of number she could sit down and cross off the J numbers that violated the other few rules that she knew that she could notI tell me, buy the numbers that she had left and she would win! I went away H and did some calculations based on what she said. I told here that on myJ brand-new-state-of-the-art VIC-20 it would take something like x months toI print the report running 24 hours a day, during that time I would have tofK replace the print head y times and it would take z ribbons to do it. If sheCI was willing to pay for all that then I could do it, but I wanted the cashWL first instead of a share of the winnings later. I never heard from her after that.s  G I don't know what she taught, but she sure changed my view of teachers.n  G p.s. The very next lottery I checked the winning numbers, they violatedo every rule she told me.l   -- Peter WeaverD Opinions are my own, and do not reflect the opinions of my employer,A nor the company that it sub-contracts to, nor the company that it  sub-contracts to.S   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:48:55 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>4 Subject: Re: [OT] Lotteries (was Re: Happy New Year)/ Message-ID: <3E1B04F6.C3D953A3@vl.videotron.ca>j   Nic Clews wrote:J > The location of Camelot, as in King Arthur's castle is buried in legend,    K Interesting. Its location in Montreal is quite well known (they have a hugel% logo on their prominent building) :-)o    E One of the banks used to have its data centre near the top of a large M multi-story atrium of a downtown complex, with large bay windows making their:& machines quite visible to shoppers :-)  K Another bank had its backup data centre on the 2nd floor of an office towerOM right next to a tourist landmark in montreal, with the IBM boxes visible from M the street. But their main data centre was one of those non-descript buidingsnK without any markings which make it so obvious it is a bank data centre :-) b  N The data centre floor has only narrow windows. But when they built condos nextL to this building, they realised that anyone in the condo could shoot bulletsH into the datacentre from the comfort of their living room, so they added; bullet proof 1inch (or more) glass to those narrow windows.e  K One advantage of not putting your corporate logo on the data centre is thatEM when you outsource your IT to IBM, you need not be bothered changing the logoe on the building :-)    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:18:49 -0800$ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com>S Subject: RE: [OT} email spamfighting (was: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP 0 Message-ID: <01C2B636.3B334460@sulfer.icius.com>  D As with all such tools, it must be used with intelligence behind it.   -----Original Message-----: From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net [mailto:Kilgallen@SpamCop.net]& Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:49 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com@F Subject: [OT} email spamfighting (was: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP    < In article <01C2B5B7.23C59870@sulfer.icius.com>, Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com> writes: > David J. Dachtera wrote: > <Big Snip>1 >>I don't want the other address to get "loose inrI >>the wild". So, I'll go back to my Earthlink address and I'll have to bebI >>vigilant for stuff that ends up among the spam that escapes Earthlink'sD >>spamtraps. > <End snip> > I > There's a nice little piece of shareware out there called "mailwasher".rC > If you're using POP3, mailwasher will let you preview mail beforeSF > downloading it, and let you bounce it as if your account didn't even > exist.  C Please don't annoy joe-job victims by sending them bounces of email B they did not transmit.  If it is spam there is a strong likelyhoodB the "From:" address is falsified, and spammers get those addressesC from the same lists they get their other victim's addresses.  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