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 TZ15 problems  vax basic questions  RE: vax basic questions  Re: vax basic questions # Where is RTL (DNS$ ) documentation? ' Re: Where is RTL (DNS$ ) documentation?  Re: ZMENU - Menus for DCL ! [OT] SAP R/3 ASAP support? Where? % Re: [OT] SAP R/3 ASAP support? Where?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:13:19 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com/ Subject: *** DANGER, Will Robinson! DANGER! *** ? Message-ID: <OF292D438A.B7AB89FF-ON85256CB0.0063F33C@metso.com>   # Has anyone an explanation for this:   -    Press RETURN to continue, q RETURN to quit * ***     DANGER, Will Robinson! DANGER! ***9         operator new failure: insufficient virtual memory K %SYSTEM-F-OPCCUS, opcode reserved to customer fault at PC=FFFFFFFF80A3E434,  PS=0000001B   2   Improperly handled condition, image exit forced.   [OpenVMS V7.2-2]   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:27:35 +0100 . From: "Hans M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de>= Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms B Message-ID: <aus-12AD87.10273516012003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>   Simplicity is my objective.    I'm the VMS administrator.  H Currently, the user starts a VMS application that generates a text file A of numbers. The user then has to click a pc-icon in order to FTP  I transfer the file to the pc. The user wants to eliminate the second step.   F I've looked at Samba, Socket programing, and previously NFS. Frank da I Cruz of Columbia suggested using the new version of Kermit 95. After the  G VMS program finishes, the file can be automatically transferred to the   pc with the DCL command:   $kermit -s filename   H Frank da Cruz recently wrote: "If the PC client reacts automatically to I Kermit packets, as (for example) Kermit 95 does it will receive the file  ! without the user doing anything."   C Franz-Jrgen Tollmann, who wrote the original post in this thread,  A doesn't want to use anything so ancient as Kermit but I like the  ) simplicity of Frank da Cruz's suggestion.   I Certainly, I can activate NFS but I'm not convinced that we need NFS for   our current application.  3 In article <PbPVke6ama+o@eisner.encompasserve.org>, =  koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote:   B > In article <3e2402cc@uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Franz-Jrgen Tollmann" ) > <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:  > > Hi,  > > L > > we are looking for a solution to access windows or linux directories via > > network with a vms system.K > > The operater of the vms-system doesnt want to install software such as H > > samba on the VMS Alpha. It would be ok for him if we would install aK > > software that makes him able to access the directories on or windows or  > > linux machine.
 > > Any idea?  > I >    Both TCP/IP and DECnet come to mind since both are available for all : >    three machines.  What does he have on his VMS system? >    --  B Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:07:26 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ' Message-ID: <3E26926E.F2A4EF95@aaa.com>   B Hm, re-reading the subject of this thread, it look like you'd like2 to access linux and/or windows *from* VMS, right ?   VMS -> Linux   : FTPG VMS -> Windows : FTP to one of your "PC-Servers" where the users access 2                  the files through a common share.   Jan-Erik Sderholm   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:29:26 +0100 = From: "Franz-Jrgen Tollmann" <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ' Message-ID: <3e26a5ae@uni-wuerzburg.de>   B Franz-Jrgen Tollmann, who wrote the original post in this thread,@ doesn't want to use anything so ancient as Kermit but I like the) simplicity of Frank da Cruz's suggestion.     E Is it really simple and comfortable to buy and install Kermit 95 on 7  machinesL and run this oldfashioned terminal-emulator as client in the background just
 to receive some files? L The VMS-System always has to adress one of the seven clients. And it is even more complicatedH since the users often have to choose for which machine a special file is needed. I think everybody C agrees that it would be the much more elegant way to make the files  accessible on the VMS for J the 7 machines. The applications that need the files from the alpha simply get them from an accessible < network-volume. Why should one buy and install software, run% terminal-emulators (Kermit works with B an automatically triggerd Z-Modem Protocol) in the background whenC everything that is needed is already integrated in the systems OS?    >  > Certainly, I can activate NFS   $ So why dont you just do it Hans :-)  
 Cheers, Franz    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:33:08 +0100 = From: "Franz-Jrgen Tollmann" <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ) Message-ID: <3e26a68c$1@uni-wuerzburg.de>    ----- Original Message -----( From: "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms ) Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:03 PM = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms      > Hi. B > Depending on what the user have to "do" with the file on the PC,( > I could see a number of possibilities. > I > You mentioned Samba (or pathworks which gives the same "service" to the  > user),F > but not why you decided not to use it. I think thats one of the moreD > "transparent" solutions for the user, since the VMS files, through > Samba,H > becomes an integral part of there PC environment. From the users point/ > of view, you never realy "transfer" anything.   * And that is what the users are asking for!   > I > Another solution could be to simply mail the file to the user, who then & > can forward it or save it as a file.  J We could carry floppy disks from the alpha host to the windows clients :-)   Cheers Franz   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:34:30 +0100 = From: "Franz-Jrgen Tollmann" <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ) Message-ID: <3e26a6de$1@uni-wuerzburg.de>    > I'm the VMS administrator. > I > Currently, the user starts a VMS application that generates a text file B > of numbers. The user then has to click a pc-icon in order to FTPK > transfer the file to the pc. The user wants to eliminate the second step.   J The user wants to use the comfort of his software. The software is able to watch directories for E incoming files and starts its action automatically if these files are  present. How should thisA work if one has to press buttons before the files are accessible?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:41:29 +0100 = From: "Franz-Jrgen Tollmann" <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ) Message-ID: <3e26a882$1@uni-wuerzburg.de>    ----- Original Message -----( From: "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms ) Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:07 PM = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms     D > Hm, re-reading the subject of this thread, it look like you'd like4 > to access linux and/or windows *from* VMS, right ? >  > VMS -> Linux   : FTPI > VMS -> Windows : FTP to one of your "PC-Servers" where the users access 4 >                  the files through a common share. > F Actually we want to access a part of the VMS-Filesystem  from Windows.C For sure the most comfortable solution for the user is installing a  SAMBA-Server on the VMS.J I just started this thread because our administrator doesnt want to alter anything on the VMS-System. G That s why I thought about making a directory from one of our machines  accessible for him. I would I open this directory to the other machines which have to access the files. L Making the directories accessible on the VMS-System would be much easier and
 save a lot of  work of course.   
 Cheers, Franz    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Jan 2003 12:50:35 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)= Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms 5 Message-ID: <b069qq$m52uk$2@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>   ' In article <3E26926E.F2A4EF95@aaa.com>, ) 	Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> writes: D > Hm, re-reading the subject of this thread, it look like you'd like4 > to access linux and/or windows *from* VMS, right ? >  > VMS -> Linux   : FTPI > VMS -> Windows : FTP to one of your "PC-Servers" where the users access 4 >                  the files through a common share. >   ; Contrary to popular belief, most users do not consider that 9 "accessing" files.  We won't even go into how quickly one 8 would end out with multiple copies of the same files all containing something different.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:00:28 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ' Message-ID: <3E26ACEC.9CFD174C@aaa.com>   9 Right, but the subject was about accessing *directories*, * not files. If that makes any differense...	 Jan-Erik.    Bill Gunshannon wrote: > ) > In article <3E26926E.F2A4EF95@aaa.com>, 2 >         Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> writes: > > VMS -> Linux   : FTPK > > VMS -> Windows : FTP to one of your "PC-Servers" where the users access 6 > >                  the files through a common share. > = > Contrary to popular belief, most users do not consider that  > "accessing" files.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 07:36:46 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms 3 Message-ID: <IiAj607zXX47@eisner.encompasserve.org>   s In article <aus-12AD87.10273516012003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Hans M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:  > J > Currently, the user starts a VMS application that generates a text file C > of numbers. The user then has to click a pc-icon in order to FTP  K > transfer the file to the pc. The user wants to eliminate the second step.  [...]  > K > Certainly, I can activate NFS but I'm not convinced that we need NFS for   > our current application. >   F    You need something with a server on the PC that a client on VMS canH    access.  FTP servers are probably the easiest to find.  Most versions/    of Windows have one built in but turned off.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:03:25 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ' Message-ID: <3E26917D.A176D443@aaa.com>    Hi. @ Depending on what the user have to "do" with the file on the PC,& I could see a number of possibilities.  G You mentioned Samba (or pathworks which gives the same "service" to the  user),D but not why you decided not to use it. I think thats one of the moreB "transparent" solutions for the user, since the VMS files, through Samba,F becomes an integral part of there PC environment. From the users point- of view, you never realy "transfer" anything.   G Another solution could be to simply mail the file to the user, who then $ can forward it or save it as a file.   Jan-Erik Sderholm.    "Hans M. Aus" wrote: >  > Simplicity is my objective.  >  > I'm the VMS administrator. > I > Currently, the user starts a VMS application that generates a text file B > of numbers. The user then has to click a pc-icon in order to FTPK > transfer the file to the pc. The user wants to eliminate the second step.  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:06:10 -0500 ' From: Chris Olive <nospam@raytheon.com> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms > Message-ID: <60zV9.299$Z74.1218@dfw-service2.ext.raytheon.com>   Bob Koehler wrote:u > In article <aus-12AD87.10273516012003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Hans M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:  > J >>Currently, the user starts a VMS application that generates a text file C >>of numbers. The user then has to click a pc-icon in order to FTP  K >>transfer the file to the pc. The user wants to eliminate the second step.  >  > [...]  > K >>Certainly, I can activate NFS but I'm not convinced that we need NFS for   >>our current application. >> >  > H >    You need something with a server on the PC that a client on VMS canJ >    access.  FTP servers are probably the easiest to find.  Most versions1 >    of Windows have one built in but turned off.  >   H OT: Really?  I don't recall *ever* having a version of Weenie-doze with F FTP "built-in" and "turned off!" 8-)  I've *added* an FTP daemon (via H service or application) by installing the Personal Web Server or IIS as E an add-on or using something "3rd party" (shareware), but I've never  I seen a FTP server "built-in" to any version of Weenie-doze...  Maybe the  I PWS or IIS install is to what you are referring?  (Just checking in case  : I missed something; not at all trying to be a smart alec.)   Chris  -----  Chris Olive  Systems Consultant' Raytheon Technical Services Corporation  Indianapolis, IN  * email: olivec AT indy DOT raytheon DOT com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:27:37 +0100 = From: "Franz-Jrgen Tollmann" <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ) Message-ID: <3e26c163$1@uni-wuerzburg.de>   : "Chris Olive" <nospam@raytheon.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag8 news:60zV9.299$Z74.1218@dfw-service2.ext.raytheon.com... > Bob Koehler wrote:L > > In article <aus-12AD87.10273516012003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Hans* M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:J > >    You need something with a server on the PC that a client on VMS canL > >    access.  FTP servers are probably the easiest to find.  Most versions3 > >    of Windows have one built in but turned off.  > >  > I > OT: Really?  I don't recall *ever* having a version of Weenie-doze with G > FTP "built-in" and "turned off!" 8-)  I've *added* an FTP daemon (via I > service or application) by installing the Personal Web Server or IIS as F > an add-on or using something "3rd party" (shareware), but I've neverJ > seen a FTP server "built-in" to any version of Weenie-doze...  Maybe theJ > PWS or IIS install is to what you are referring?  (Just checking in case< > I missed something; not at all trying to be a smart alec.) >   H I agree with you. There is no such thing as a windows with an integrated FTP-Server.  Only the client is implemented.   
 Cheers, Franz    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 10:24:09 -0500& From: fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)= Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms 1 Message-ID: <b06iqp$bku$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu>   ' In article <3e26a5ae@uni-wuerzburg.de>, < Franz-Jrgen Tollmann <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:D : Franz-Jrgen Tollmann, who wrote the original post in this thread,6 : doesn't want to use anything so ancient as Kermit... : < Kermit might be long-lived, but it is also quite up to date:  !   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/   > : ... but I like the simplicity of Frank da Cruz's suggestion. : D If the users already have a terminal session (direct serial, dialed,K Telnet, SSL, or SSH) from Windows to VMS (and Kermit 95 does all of these), E nothing could be simpler than moving the files with Kermit across the  already-open session.   G If they do not have a terminal session, then a more "modern" approach,  G such as NFS, Samba, PATHWORKS, etc, might be appropriate, but these are I also more difficult to install and manage, might expose your hosts to new @ risks, and probably don't handle cross-platform record-format or; character-set conversion of text files very well or at all.    - Frank    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Jan 2003 16:00:24 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)= Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms 5 Message-ID: <b06kuo$lq6t5$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>   ) In article <3e26c163$1@uni-wuerzburg.de>, @ 	"Franz-Jrgen Tollmann" <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes: > J > I agree with you. There is no such thing as a windows with an integrated
 > FTP-Server.   D But if you leave your Win2K (and probably NT and XP as well) machineA connected to the INTERNET without a password on the Administrator + account you will have one soon enough.  :-)    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:20:31 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@PROBE.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)= Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms . Message-ID: <b06m4e$1gg$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   "Hans M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes in article <aus-12AD87.10273516012003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de> dated Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:27:35 +0100: >Simplicity is my objective.    & Simplicity for you or the user?  Haha.   >I'm the VMS administrator.  > I >Currently, the user starts a VMS application that generates a text file  B >of numbers. The user then has to click a pc-icon in order to FTP J >transfer the file to the pc. The user wants to eliminate the second step.  G Idea #1 -- run a ftp server on the PC, and add a ftp script or copy/ftp K command to your application script.  The ftp server is free with Linux, you 6 might have to pay $20 for a Windoze shareware version.  J >Certainly, I can activate NFS but I'm not convinced that we need NFS for  >our current application.   K Idea #2 -- With NFS served from the VMS machine, the file would still be on K the VMS end but visible to the user.  He could drag-and-drop it to where he ) wants, but there's that extra step again.   J Idea #3 -- NFS served from Linux.  Your application writes to a NFS-clientJ device, so the file is never saved on the VMS end at all.  I don't know if2 there's a decent NFS client available for Windoze.  F Idea #4 -- Web server.  The user runs the application via a CGI scriptG running on Apache.  The product of the script is the file in MIME.  The K user's browser asks him where he wants to save the file.  Or if you use the I MIME type "text/plain", the numbers will appear in his browser and he can 3 use the "save" option if he wants to save the file.   + --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.org > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:40:25 -0800 $ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com>= Subject: RE: Access linux and/or windows directories with VMS 0 Message-ID: <01C2BD3B.00B46E20@sulfer.icius.com>  H Maybe he's seen the FTP /client/ and assumed there's a server there too? Easy mistaka da mayka.   Shane    -----Original Message-----. From: Chris Olive [mailto:nospam@raytheon.com]( Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:06 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms      Bob Koehler wrote:M > In article <aus-12AD87.10273516012003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Hans M. ' Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:  > J >>Currently, the user starts a VMS application that generates a text file C >>of numbers. The user then has to click a pc-icon in order to FTP  K >>transfer the file to the pc. The user wants to eliminate the second step.  >  > [...]  > K >>Certainly, I can activate NFS but I'm not convinced that we need NFS for   >>our current application. >> >  > H >    You need something with a server on the PC that a client on VMS canJ >    access.  FTP servers are probably the easiest to find.  Most versions1 >    of Windows have one built in but turned off.  >   H OT: Really?  I don't recall *ever* having a version of Weenie-doze with F FTP "built-in" and "turned off!" 8-)  I've *added* an FTP daemon (via H service or application) by installing the Personal Web Server or IIS as E an add-on or using something "3rd party" (shareware), but I've never  H seen a FTP server "built-in" to any version of Weenie-doze...  Maybe theH PWS or IIS install is to what you are referring?  (Just checking in case: I missed something; not at all trying to be a smart alec.)   Chris  -----  Chris Olive  Systems Consultant' Raytheon Technical Services Corporation  Indianapolis, IN  * email: olivec AT indy DOT raytheon DOT com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:47:25 -0800 $ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com>= Subject: RE: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms 0 Message-ID: <01C2BD3C.01013920@sulfer.icius.com>  E Or even if you have WinXP but haven't run GRC's little utility to rip G out "universal plug and play" you run the same risk. Cruise GRC.com for  details.   Shane    -----Original Message-----0 From: bill@cs.uofs.edu [mailto:bill@cs.uofs.edu]( Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:00 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms     ) In article <3e26c163$1@uni-wuerzburg.de>, B 	"Franz-J=FCrgen Tollmann" <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes: >=20A > I agree with you. There is no such thing as a windows with an = 
 integrated
 > FTP-Server.   D But if you leave your Win2K (and probably NT and XP as well) machineA connected to the INTERNET without a password on the Administrator + account you will have one soon enough.  :-)    bill   --=20 C Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three  wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |C Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>  =20    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 11:56:11 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms 3 Message-ID: <$aSImjvlwT76@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <60zV9.299$Z74.1218@dfw-service2.ext.raytheon.com>, Chris Olive <nospam@raytheon.com> writes: > Bob Koehler wrote: >>  I >>    You need something with a server on the PC that a client on VMS can K >>    access.  FTP servers are probably the easiest to find.  Most versions 2 >>    of Windows have one built in but turned off. >>   > J > OT: Really?  I don't recall *ever* having a version of Weenie-doze with ( > FTP "built-in" and "turned off!" 8-)    /    My mistake.  It's in Exceed, not in Windoze.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:03:07 +0100 = From: "Franz-Jrgen Tollmann" <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms ' Message-ID: <3e26f3e5@uni-wuerzburg.de>   9 "Frank da Cruz" <fdc@columbia.edu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag + news:b06iqp$bku$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu... ) > In article <3e26a5ae@uni-wuerzburg.de>, > > Franz-Jrgen Tollmann <tollmann@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:    H > If they do not have a terminal session, then a more "modern" approach,I > such as NFS, Samba, PATHWORKS, etc, might be appropriate, but these are K > also more difficult to install and manage, might expose your hosts to new B > risks, and probably don't handle cross-platform record-format or= > character-set conversion of text files very well or at all.   @ Are you joking ? The big enterprise solutions for cross-platform networksharing bear  graeater risks than kermit? . How secure do you suggest a telnet connection?   Cheers Franz   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:16:16 -0500 ; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com> = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms " Message-ID: <3e26f6ec@news.si.com>  C >Franz-Jrgen Tollmann, who wrote the original post in this thread, 2 >doesn't want to use anything so ancient as Kermit  I It's evident that Franz-Jrgen Tollmann doesn't understand that a program K being actively developed and marketed is not, by definition, "ancient".  He F apparently has had his head and mind stuck in the sand for many years. --  I Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com 5 Smiths Aerospace  Addresses modified to prevent SPAM. @ 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:00:49 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> 7 Subject: Acrobat Destiller and old DEC/Compaq PS files. ' Message-ID: <3E2674C1.53973BD8@aaa.com>    Hi all. C I'v got a problem with Destiller and (older ?) PS files from DEC or  Compaq. # Destiller gives the following log :   ( Start Time: den 16 januari 2003 at 09:12  % Destination: C:\temp\owners_guide.pdf    Source: owners_guide.ps   3 %%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: findfont ]  %%   Stack: /Font  (Helvetica)  [83 0 0 -83 0 0]      < %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ] %%6 %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%" Distill Time: 1 seconds (00:00:01)   **** End of Job ****    7 It's always the "findfont" command that is the problem.   2 Anyone else having this problem (and a solution) ?   Jan-Erik Sderholm.  PS. C Ghostscript with the pdfwriter driver runs OK, but I get some error @ messages when opening in the Reader (PC). It seems as GostscriptB have some problems with those blank pages that are inserted to get9 the first page of a new chapter on an even (or odd) page.  DS.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:54:09 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>; Subject: Re: Acrobat Destiller and old DEC/Compaq PS files. / Message-ID: <3E26D5A0.83D1F104@vl.videotron.ca>    Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote: 5 > %%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: findfont ]  > %% >  > Stack: > /Font 
 > (Helvetica)  > [83 0 0 -83 0 0]    I If the postscript is readable, (as opposed to a single blob of continuous 6 text), you can easily add debugging commands such as :    (line x) print   G This will output "line x" to the distiller log. This would allow you to M isolate the part of the code that causes the hickup.  Findfont takes only one E item from the stack (eg: one argument), and it is a key, not a value.   = normally, you'd have /Helvetica findfont 10 scalefont setfont   L or, at the top, you'd be redefining /Helvetica with an ISO latin 1 encoding.G This is done n different ways, and an be ugly in older implementations.   K You'd have to look at the hostory of /Font to see how it was defined before  the offending command.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:10:01 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> ; Subject: Re: Acrobat Destiller and old DEC/Compaq PS files. ' Message-ID: <3E26F579.5F694296@aaa.com>     The PS file is readable just OK.3 By inserting print commands according to your post, , I'v found the place where the error occures.$ It's in the the 3-line block below :  +   % DefineFont:F243 Category:10 Pointsize:7 :   /Courier-Oblique /Courier-Oblique@DOCPSE DOCPSE ReENCODE,   /F243 350.100 /Courier-Oblique@DOCPSE DPSF  3 "DPSF" is defined (?) earlier in the file as this :   *   /DPSF {		% /procname size /fontname DPSF>       findfont exch ps-scalefont [ exch /setfont cvx ] cvx def   }def  ; I know next to nothing about PS, does this make any sense ?   	 Jan-Erik.  PS. < Note that I happend to debug the other of the two files thatB I have. I'v changed the error message bit (other font then before) to reflect this  DS.      > Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote: 7 > > %%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: findfont ]  > > %% > > 
 > > Stack:	 > > /Font  > > (Courier-Oblique)    >    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Jan 2003 23:47:41 -0800' From: taupin974@hotmail.com (taupin974)  Subject: Re: AS400 & Open VMS = Message-ID: <f948cf20.0301152347.131d7451@posting.google.com>   C And if i install these emulator, i will be able to install open vms 4 and use in particular the smg librairies on my pc ?!    ^ david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) wrote in message news:<b03g1t$4dq$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>...i > In article <f948cf20.0301142347.50249a53@posting.google.com>, taupin974@hotmail.com (taupin974) writes: E > >So there is a vax emulator that allow me to install open vms on my @ > >personnal computer ?! Don't need to be a 64 bits processor ?! > > J > There are 2 implementations of VMS. VMS on Alpha which is 64bit and the / > original VMS on VAX. Vaxes are 32bit systems.  > N > Although in general VMS is VMS whether it is on Alpha or VAX there are newerC > developments on Alpha which take advantage of it's 64bit nature.   > Q > I am aware of 3 VAX emulators for PCs though I've never personally used them :-  > H > 1) Charon-VAX  - unfortunately I believe this is now only a commercialM >                  offering. There used to be a hobbyist version but that was  >                  dropped.  > 8 > 2) Ts10        -  Not sure where you can get this from > 2 > 3) Simh        -  http://simh.trailing-edge.com/ >  > 1 > Both of the latter are public domain emulators.  >  >  > David Webb > VMS and Unix team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University >  > >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:24:32 -0500 A From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com>o* Subject: Re: assembly/disassembly on vms ?. Message-ID: <3e26dcc1$1_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  C  > >Right. DISM32 only runs on VAXes, not Alphas.  To try and truly F > > >disassemble an Alpha image would leave you with RISC instructions   A simple Alpha dis-assembler.w  % $ srm_check :== $sys$system:srm_checka" $ srm_check -v -dump -file FOO.EXE   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:07:23 GMTd" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG* Subject: Re: assembly/disassembly on vms ?0 Message-ID: <00A1A0E0.4C108FAA@SendSpamHere.ORG>  r In article <3e26dcc1$1_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> writes:D > > >Right. DISM32 only runs on VAXes, not Alphas.  To try and trulyG >> > >disassemble an Alpha image would leave you with RISC instructionsi >t >A simple Alpha dis-assembler. >d& >$ srm_check :== $sys$system:srm_check# >$ srm_check -v -dump -file FOO.EXE   ) $ srm_check -verbose -dump -input FOO.EXEe  ! seems to work a whole lot better.d --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMs            l5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" l   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:16:06 -0500PA From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com>S* Subject: Re: assembly/disassembly on vms ?. Message-ID: <3e26f6e7$1_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  , <VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:00A1A0E0.4C108FAA@SendSpamHere.ORG...B > In article <3e26dcc1$1_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge"1 <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> writes:VF > > > >Right. DISM32 only runs on VAXes, not Alphas.  To try and trulyI > >> > >disassemble an Alpha image would leave you with RISC instructionsf > >V  > >A simple Alpha dis-assembler. > > ( > >$ srm_check :== $sys$system:srm_check% > >$ srm_check -v -dump -file FOO.EXEO >N+ > $ srm_check -verbose -dump -input FOO.EXE. > # > seems to work a whole lot better.   I Yeah, well.  I wrote it but haven't actually used it in quite a while ;-)m   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:58:27 -0500nA From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com>n' Subject: Re: Control-P on al alpha 4100d, Message-ID: <3e26f2c5_2@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  K ^P causes the OS to be halted, and the console to be entered.  We do not doaK any synchronization, or OS cleanup.  On some machines, like the TurboLaser,OE ^P is hardware detected (non-maskable), on others it happens when the + console interrupt is taken in the firmware.   H In either case, it should not corrupt DMA in flight, but you may have IOG that is never completed (was in a queue someplace, but never written toLH disk).  But it could interrupt pretty much anything, and there is alwaysJ some small probability of that something being important.  If you are on aC serial console, CONTINUE should restart execution from where it was-I interrupted without any problems (ignoring time based things like clustero
 timeouts).  L VMS is pretty tolerant of any type of interruption, and seldom will you everI the disk left in an inconsistant state that cannot be fixed by ANAL/DISK.oK However, in general you should not ^P unless you are hung, or are debuggingi some inner mode code.*    9 "Kevin T. Miller" <millerk@hushmail.com> wrote in messageS7 news:1f83b2aa.0301150703.1e96e681@posting.google.com...F > Hello. >4> > Would a Control-P ever cause major file corruption to disks?F > Is it ever a good idea to perform a control-P when the machine is upD > and running? Would this cause disk controllers to go bad also? Any& > help greatly appreciated. Thank you. >w > Kevinr   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:37:10 -0600e. From: Lyndon Bartels <lbartels@pressenter.com>% Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus vs DECnet IVt. Message-ID: <3E265315.1B4E98D7@pressenter.com>   David J. Dachtera wrote: >  > Lyndon Bartels wrote:- > >i
 > > Hello, > > L > > I've been using DECnet Phase IV on all my machines. But it seems that toB > > accomplish some of my goals, I need to move to DECnet Plus.... >  > Such as ... ?s > > > That is, what do you need to do that DECnet-IV can't handle? >   G I want to add a second pair if NICS to my servers. Retain TCP/IP on the G "public" (read "current") network paths. Create a "private" network for C DECnet, and eventually SCS traffic. This will make the network guysK happy.  , BUT.... I have to have everything redundant.    C I was told by CSC that in order to accomplish this, I'd need DECnett Plus.s     Thanks in advance,   Lyndon   -- sG My opinions are mine and mine alone. They seldom align with those of mys	 employer.e    H The only good thing about putting the cart before the horse is you don't have to look at the horse's butt.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 07:32:17 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)u% Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus vs DECnet IVn3 Message-ID: <ZB5TX2R0Ukgw@eisner.encompasserve.org>i  b In article <3E25FB6B.C8D875DC@vl.videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> writes: > Lyndon Bartels wrote: E >> Is there any documentation talking about the comparisons? Just the I >> rudimentery stuff... If I wanted to define a node on IV. What would be  >> the analaous stuff on Plus. > N > It,s been a while, but go into MC NCP and use the help there. I *think* thatO > there is a way to get the fake NCP to translate the real DECNET commands intor > the Decnet-plus stuff.  E    Once upon a time some fellow at DEC got up and claimed that it wasmG    his job to write the new NCP which would translate everything to NCL G    for you.  He said if it didn't completely work then he didn't do hisl    job.a  >    I wonder where he works now?  Not only lots of things don't:    translate, but simple node registration is one of them.  =    OBTW, use mcr decnet_register for this one instead of ncp.c   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:38:31 +0000>) From: Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org>w% Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus vs DECnet IV   Message-ID: <3E26C3E7.5@iee.org>   JF Mezei wrote:oI > But you'll need the manuals to try to figure out which files need to be0O > modified to add the commands you need because therte is a whole hiearchy thatAK > gets executed ina  certain order, and if you enter a command in the wronguN > file, chances are it will bet overrules by a contradicting command in a file > executed later.   A You probably should not be touching any .NCL files by hand - the  A NET$CONFIGURE procedure rewrites them each time it exits. Insteadb# use the procedure in ADVANCED mode.n   Antonio    -- d   --   ---------------o- Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:47:09 -0500 ! From: VAXVMS <bounce@notmail.com>i% Subject: RE: DECnet-Plus vs DECnet IVwK Message-ID: <BA52530E3149734A9BAABDBBFA808E4903027BBC@rlghncst964.usps.gov>u  < We keep our SCS traffic private with multiple NIC cards like@ DE-504s and DE-602s that use a couple of our own Cisco switches ! that are dedicated to that task. f  @ As for doing DECnet Phase IV privately, well, off the top of my @ head I don't see a reason you couldn't do that, too, if you had H enough NIC ports and switches (actually, a hub would do for the DECnet) > and you were *very* careful about how you configured things...   WWWebb   David J. Dachtera wrote: >t > Lyndon Bartels wrote:  > >e
 > > Hello, > >-L > > I've been using DECnet Phase IV on all my machines. But it seems that toB > > accomplish some of my goals, I need to move to DECnet Plus.... >c > Such as ... ?w >o> > That is, what do you need to do that DECnet-IV can't handle? >   G I want to add a second pair if NICS to my servers. Retain TCP/IP on the G "public" (read "current") network paths. Create a "private" network forjC DECnet, and eventually SCS traffic. This will make the network guys  happy.  , BUT.... I have to have everything redundant.    C I was told by CSC that in order to accomplish this, I'd need DECnete Plus.      Thanks in advance,   Lyndon   --G My opinions are mine and mine alone. They seldom align with those of myt	 employer.    ========================  William W. Webb / DSSC/RLM, USPS OpenVMS Support Services& 4924 Green Road Raleigh, NC 27616-2800: 919.874.3043 <FirstInitialDotLastNameAtEmailDotUSPSDotGov>   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:29:29 -0500 ! From: VAXVMS <bounce@notmail.com>m% Subject: RE: DECnet-Plus vs DECnet IV K Message-ID: <BA52530E3149734A9BAABDBBFA808E4903027BBD@rlghncst964.usps.gov>t  E I neglected to say that the solution about which I was speaking would-B work for a group of machines located in the same room or building.  J If your machines are located more widely than that, then it's a different  matter.r   WWWebb   -----Original Message-----
 From: VAXVMS @( Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:47 AM To: "Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com" % Subject: RE: DECnet-Plus vs DECnet IVe    < We keep our SCS traffic private with multiple NIC cards like? DE-504s and DE-602s that use a couple of our own Cisco switchest  that are dedicated to that task.  ? As for doing DECnet Phase IV privately, well, off the top of mys? head I don't see a reason you couldn't do that, too, if you hadcG enough NIC ports and switches (actually, a hub would do for the DECnet) > and you were *very* careful about how you configured things...   WWWebb   David J. Dachtera wrote: >, > Lyndon Bartels wrote:0 > >r
 > > Hello, > > L > > I've been using DECnet Phase IV on all my machines. But it seems that toB > > accomplish some of my goals, I need to move to DECnet Plus.... >  > Such as ... ?l >s> > That is, what do you need to do that DECnet-IV can't handle? >o  G I want to add a second pair if NICS to my servers. Retain TCP/IP on the G "public" (read "current") network paths. Create a "private" network foreC DECnet, and eventually SCS traffic. This will make the network guysw happy.  , BUT.... I have to have everything redundant.    C I was told by CSC that in order to accomplish this, I'd need DECnet  Plus.      Thanks in advance,   Lyndon     ========================  William W. Webb / DSSC/RLM, USPS OpenVMS Support Services& 4924 Green Road Raleigh, NC 27616-2800: 919.874.3043 <FirstInitialDotLastNameAtEmailDotUSPSDotGov>   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:02:50 -0400t0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>% Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus vs DECnet IVm/ Message-ID: <3E26D7A9.55A011A1@vl.videotron.ca>    Lyndon Bartels wrote:c@ > > That is, what do you need to do that DECnet-IV can't handle? > >l > I > I want to add a second pair if NICS to my servers. Retain TCP/IP on the I > "public" (read "current") network paths. Create a "private" network for5E > DECnet, and eventually SCS traffic. This will make the network guysc > happy. > . > BUT.... I have to have everything redundant. > E > I was told by CSC that in order to accomplish this, I'd need DECneta > Plus.   N Ok, with standard DECNET, you can't have more than one lines active at a time.H But with the full DECNET (routing), then you can get multiple lines (eg:J ethernet cards). DECNET needs to have the logic to know which card to use.  I I believe that the differention between DECNET and DECNET-ROUTING doesn'ta exist with DECNET-5    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:04:22 GMT A From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk>m% Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus vs DECnet IVo= Message-ID: <GuCV9.5990$x13.48191662@news-text.cableinet.net>    -- Hope this helps. Cheers, Colin.e' (colinDOT.butcherAT@xdeltaDOT.coDOT.uk)     ; "Lyndon Bartels" <lbartels@pressenter.com> wrote in messagea( news:3E25ADDF.56C069BC@pressenter.com... > Hello, >sJ > I've been using DECnet Phase IV on all my machines. But it seems that to@ > accomplish some of my goals, I need to move to DECnet Plus.... >aE > I just finished an install of 7.3-1 and 'Plus' on my workstation tomH > start testing things out. So I haven't dug into any documentation yet. >o >a	 > But....i >tD > Is there any documentation talking about the comparisons? Just theH > rudimentery stuff... If I wanted to define a node on IV. What would be > the analaous stuff on Plus.a >o >wG > Any pointers would be great. I hate calling up CSC for questions like > > that. I'll be reading docs for a long time before I do that. >s >r >h > Thanks in advance, >o > Lyndon >u >  > --I > My opinions are mine and mine alone. They seldom align with those of my- > employer.- >  >eJ > The only good thing about putting the cart before the horse is you don't > have > to look at the horse's butt.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:17:31 -0600c0 From: Earl Lakia <Lakia_n_o__s_p_a_m_@ipact.com> Subject: Re: GE HCT Tool Kit1 Message-ID: <1aWcncZsfqiQULujXTWcpA@netnitco.net>t   Followup...r  . GE Fanuc has stated that the HCT tool kit is a1 legacy product.  My customer had an older version 1 of the tool kit.  Relinked the application to thee2 old library changing nothing else and the buffered4 I/O dropped from 4000/sec to 50/sec and a great drop% in CPU resources used by the process.S  1 Anyone have documentation on the 90/70 PLC TCP/IP / communication protocol.  Makes me want to writen/ my own.  Maybe GE Fanuc will release the sourcee code.t   -earl    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:27:49 +0100-1 From: SAP Trainee <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>:; Subject: Re: Getting started with an AlphaStation 200 4/233a& Message-ID: <3E26A545.6080103@Free.fr>  G WWWeb, remember... English is not my native tongue. But I thought that  > "may" means "to be allowed to" and "can" means "to be able to"   :-)P   D.   VAXVMS a crit:o > You may not, but you can???e > $ > That statement contradicts itself.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 07:11:22 -0800( From: baby_p_nut@yahoo.com (Baby Peanut)5 Subject: Re: How to flash VAXstation 4000/90 FEPROMS?a< Message-ID: <c5cf6e8.0301160711.78023012@posting.google.com>  T rivie@RIvie.no.domain wrote in message news:<slrnb29pcu.6t.rivie@RIvie.no.domain>...Q > In article <c5cf6e8.0301141455.3077d976@posting.google.com>, Baby Peanut wrote:f > > Hi,a > > G > > I have a VAXstation 4000/90 with bad code in the FEPROMS.  Is there ) > > any way to reload the original image?r > E > The one time I've done it, I pulled the EPROMs and blasted 'em on anF > ROM burner. Had to put sockets in because the power connector is tooE > close to the EPROMs; you can get to the pins on the power connector @ > side through the top of a socket, but you can't go through theD > top of an EPROM. Got in trouble when Field Circus saw the sockets. > E > You might check with the NetBSD folks. There was some discussion on1D > the problem a while ago; I think someone was talking about writingH > a flashing utility, but I don't know if that ever happened. Of course,F > that's only useful if the ROMs work well enough to bring the VAX up.B > If the VAX can't come up at all, you're gonna have to pull them. > C > In my case, I was fiddling with the I/O routines for a bare-metalTB > FORTH system and forgot to take the 4000/60 console I/O routinesD > out. The 4000/60 console lives at the same address as some 4000/90H > flash, and I accidentally erased one of the chips. So I had no choice;1 > if I wanted to fix it, I had to pull the flash.c  B I'd be upset too if I was a field service engineer with a firmwareE upgrade kit and I found someone unsoldered the chips to fix a problemd6 which can be corrected by using MOP to boot a utility.  C That being said someone was nice enough to give me a copy and since E NetBSD has trashed so many VAXstations I'm going to share it with thea world:  / http://hermes.tubas.net/vs4000-90A_firmware.zipu   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:38:05 -0500.A From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com>J6 Subject: Re: HP Sets the Stage for Alpha's Last Hurrah. Message-ID: <3e26edfe$1_2@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  3 > and the recent Inquirer article purports to quoteiG > an internal cHumPaq source as saying that indeed EV7 would *not* haveDJ > shipped save for some government commitments with teeth in them.  Now, I) > don't presume to vouch for that source,m  K Inquirer reports should always be taken with a large grain of salt.  I havesI seen everything from remarkably accurate statements that imply a theft ofsE internal slides, to statements that can only have been made by peopleeK without a clue, probably based on some third hand hallway conversation, and1$ also by people with an axe to grind.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:11:00 -0800 (PST) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>! Subject: Is Galaxy an EXOKERNEL ?r@ Message-ID: <20030116161100.76139.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com>  	 Dear Sirs   & Is the Galaxy software an EXOKERNEL  ?     Regardsl   FC *   =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?5 Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.t http://mailplus.yahoo.come   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:14:11 -0500hA From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com>r% Subject: Re: Is Galaxy an EXOKERNEL ? . Message-ID: <3e26f676$1_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  G I don't think so, although I'm not entirely sure that I have a complete-3 grasp of what the MIT folks mean by the expression.9  D My interpretation is that the exokernel provides the direct hardwareL abstraction, which would imply to me an interface to all HW devices.  On topE of this, you create a "user mode" UNIX abstraction - one which can beTH bypassed by the application, and can directly talk to this new exokernelK abstraction.  Hence, it looks like an attempt to be able to create a "fast" 7 single application system, with UNIX-like abstractions.    That isn't Galaxy in my mind.     ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in messaget: news:20030116161100.76139.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com... > Dear Sirsl >s( > Is the Galaxy software an EXOKERNEL  ? >  >)	 > Regardsw >o > FC >  > =====  > ========================== > Fbio dos Santos Cardoso > OpenVMS System Manager > Rio de Janeiro - Brazili > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br > ========================== >m4 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!?7 > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.m > http://mailplus.yahoo.coms   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 07:20:15 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)2 Subject: Itanium with alpha goodies on the way ...< Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0301160720.bb0b8d5@posting.google.com>  ' Intel confirms dual core Itanium ahead R   Battle of the "brains"  / By Mike Magee: Thursday 16 January 2003, 09:37 t     from the inquirer ...e  C CHIP GIANT INTEL will release a version of the Itanium in 2005 thatnE includes two processors in the same package  confirming reports fromr
 last year.F And, apparently, according to Mike Kanellos at news.com it will up theA level three cache on Itanium Madison processors to 9MB next year.o  F That's not shown on current Intel roadmaps seen by PC manufacturers soC far. Madison and Deerfield are launched in the middle of this year,|F and the cache for the former is as much as 6MB and will run at a speed
 of 1.5GHz.  F According to the Kanellos piece, the Intel Montecito Itanium will haveC the dual processor cores. Recently we reported that AMD could scale-5 its future Hammer technology to a two core model too.   F Montecito will be made on a 90 nanometer process. It is this chip thatF is the first to be likely to include elements from the Alpha processor; that Intel magically swiped off Compaq before HP bought it.u   See Also( Itanic will use Alpha, EV8, SMT features   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:49:38 GMTc# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>f6 Subject: Re: Itanium with alpha goodies on the way ...K Message-ID: <mwAV9.352566$F2h1.283617@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>i  5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in messagen6 news:d7791aa1.0301160720.bb0b8d5@posting.google.com...( > Intel confirms dual core Itanium ahead >  > Battle of the "brains" >,0 > By Mike Magee: Thursday 16 January 2003, 09:37 >p >c > from the inquirer ...r >  >f > It is this chip that> > is the first to be likely to include elements from the Alpha	 processorc= > that Intel magically swiped off Compaq before HP bought it.r    ? If this is true then all former CPQ shareholders should bring a,F class-action lawsuit against Intel for damages suffered as a result of> the impairment of CPQ market value resulting from this action.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 09:47:27 -0800' From: jbecker@ui.urban.org (Jim Becker)l7 Subject: Re: Most common OpenVMS versions in use today? = Message-ID: <c113b52c.0301160947.755a9d0d@posting.google.com>-  e otto@programmer.net (Otto) wrote in message news:<c0b935a5.0301130226.46f4ce7a@posting.google.com>...p > Hello! > > > Could anybody please tell us which OpenVMS versions that are2 > commonly used in production environments today?  > Both VAX and Alpha?a > OpenVMS 5.x, 6.x, 7.x. >  > Thanks in advance. >  > //Otto  B The current Encompass instapoll, running today and running for two$ weeks, addresses this question. See: http://www.encompassus.org/-   --
 Jim Becker+ The Urban Institute (http://www.urban.org/)0' Encompass (http://www.encompassus.org/) . ESILUG (http://encompasserve.org/lugs/esilug/)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:15:21 -0000e2 From: "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>+ Subject: MX 5.3-2 ignoring vmsmail forwards 4 Message-ID: <b05t6i$cc0$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>  - Upgraded MX from 5.0 to 5.3 eco 2 last night. / It appears it's now ignoring VMS mail forwards:j   Eg.:  ! set forward/user=johnny.cash cashi  = Gets ignored - external mail for johnny.cash is now bouncing.2  " Help ! Anyone know how to fix it ?   Thanks,  Chris<   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:13:50 -0000a2 From: "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>/ Subject: Re: MX 5.3-2 ignoring vmsmail forwardso4 Message-ID: <b067l8$dv6$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>  = "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> wrote in messagec. news:b05t6i$cc0$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk.../ > Upgraded MX from 5.0 to 5.3 eco 2 last night. 1 > It appears it's now ignoring VMS mail forwards:  >t > Eg.n >n# > set forward/user=johnny.cash cashr >r? > Gets ignored - external mail for johnny.cash is now bouncing.o >b$ > Help ! Anyone know how to fix it ?  ? Stop press: it seems our name_conversion.exe image is to blame. C It translates usernames to dotted names, returning 0 for an unknown / username, or if called on to translate to_user.n  J MX local: calls init with context %x45554555 (= "UEUE"), consistently (for	 one run).nL My init routine gives it a valid context, my cleanup routine zeroes context,I but mx local consistently re-calls init with %x45554555. Calling pattern:e2 {init(%x45554555), convert(from_user), cleanup}...  L MX router: behaves better - calling pattern: init(0), {convert(to_user)}..., cleanup   ' MX smtp server: very strange behaviour:i init(0)dE convert(to_user, "JANE.TURNER") -> 0 (my convert uppercases the input1 string)3 init(%x72656e72 (="rner"))" convert(from_user,"TURNERJA") -> 1 cleanups% convert(to_user, "ARTHUR.SMITH") -> 0  init(%x74696d73 (="smit"))  convert(from_user,"ARTHUR") -> 1 cleanupu' convert(to_user,"LORRIANE.MURTON") -> 0u& convert(to_user,"JOANNE.ELLWOOD") -> 0& convert(to_user,"JOANNE.ELLWOOD") -> 0% convert(to_user,"TRACY.MELLISH") -> 0i init(%x696c6c65 (="elli"))" convert(from_user,"MELLISHT") -> 1 cleanupt" convert(to_user,"GUY.PERSON") -> 0 init(%x406e6f73 (="son@")   convert(from_user,"PERSON") -> 1 cleanupd& convert(to_user,"PETE.TANGLETON") -> 0 init(%x656c676e (="ngle"))$ convert(from_user,"TANGLETONP") -> 1 cleanupw  J So it would seem that there's one 'to_user' context initialised at startupK (& never closed), & a separate 'from_user' context initialised & cleaned upaF for each call, but that context variable is overwritten by the to_userJ source data - I'm as sure as I can be that I'm not doing it: I extract theC source string to local stack storage using str$upcase, and copy themF destination string (always mixed case) with str$copy_dx. It's possibleL that's correct, if the context variable is uninitialised when passed to init
 each time.J I supply the same context value for the entire run. My image is written inK Pascal, and declares the string descriptors as VAR dsc1$type. I access them  via the str$ routines.  D Anyway, removing name_conversion seems to fix the problem, for now -F although I'd like to restore the name conversion behaviour - it's been! running unchanged since June '98.s   Thanks,p Chrish   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:08:23 -0500 ; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com>F/ Subject: Re: MX 5.3-2 ignoring vmsmail forwardst$ Message-ID: <3e26f513$1@news.si.com>  J MX questions are best addressed in the vmsnet.mail.mx (but you may have toE wade through SPAM) newsgroup or the mx-list@madgoat.com mailing list.)  . >Upgraded MX from 5.0 to 5.3 eco 2 last night.0 >It appears it's now ignoring VMS mail forwards:  K I have MX V5.3 ECO 2 and it does not ignore forwards.  Have you checked for-E forwarding on the CASH username?  I use the type of forwarding you'ret1 describing, buy my command is slightly different:   - MAIL> set forward/user=brian.tillman _tillmans  B i.e., I make sure the destination username contains the preceedingK underscore so that even if TILLMAN has forwarding set, it will stay on VMS.bI Otherwise, you might wind up with too many hops or a mail forwarding loopm, that would, as you describe, cause a bounce.  < By the way, what does the bounce message say is the problem? --  I Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot coml5 Smiths Aerospace  Addresses modified to prevent SPAM.c@ 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991o8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:05:11 -0500e1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> / Subject: Re: OpenVMS for AlphaStation 200 4/233l2 Message-ID: <3E26D837.EED6962E@clarityconnect.com>   I also have jilly@hp.com ;*)   JF Mezei wrote:  >  > Hoff Hoffman wrote:@I > >         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com  > O > Wow, Hoff got a "vanity" email address at HP... Was that hard to negotiate ton > get permission ? > O > Are you allowed to get your emails delivered to a VMS workstation, or are youf > forced to use Windows ?p   -- yC Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Waverly, NYr0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan+ 	- Mark.Jilson@hp.com				- since 1975 or sor 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:14:30 +0000 (UTC)s+ From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) Y Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist licence (was: Getting started with an AlphaStation 200 4/23:+ Message-ID: <b0646m$157$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>=  Z In article <3E25B937.8000401@Free.fr>, SAP Trainee <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> writes:G >1. As far as I know, an AlphaStation 200 4/233 is not a VAX (but this iG >may have changed too since a few months) so your text is not relevant.o >wJ The text quoted is on one of Montagar's general web pages and therefore isF subject normal reading assumptions rather than being a legal document.M I would expect that most reasonable readers would see the first two sentences8L quoted as referring to a particular situation with the VAX media kit whereasH the last statement would be seen as a general statement about the use ofL OpenVMS distributions with the hobbyist license irrespective of whether that was for an Alpha or Vax box.  N This is supported by the fact that, as has been stated before in this thread, K the use of commercial VMS distributions with the hobbyist license has been sF sanctioned by a number of Compaq/HP employees writing in comp.os.vms.       D >2. When I received my Hobbyist CD, it was written somewhere what I I >posted in my previous message, i.e. no commercial OpenVMS distrib. Only - >the Montagar one. >aJ >3. things may have changed about license management, but I was not aware  >of it.: >r  N Since I haven't used the hobbyist licenses or media I can't comment on whetherH older licenses had some type of restriction and if so when that position changed.  N I do however note the use of the word VAX in the Hobbyist terms and conditionsM page which apart from that is pretty much the same as the text in the license L of the register_license page which would tend to suggest that the terms and L conditions of the hobbyist license haven't changed since this was a VAX onlyK offering. Obviously someone at Montagar should really update that terms andt6 condition page to remove the reference to VAX OpenVMS.      
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University       >D.r >t >David Webb a crit:] >> In article <3E259A5D.3090209@Free.fr>, SAP Trainee <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> writes:  >> d >>>David Webb a crit: >>>  >>>tI >>>>>>2. And can I use the hobbyist license with commercial distribution?d >>>>>mE >>>>>No, you cannot (but, really, who will care for a dying product?)0 >>>>>  >>>>O >>>>Yes you can. VMS is VMS is VMS. There is no "hobbyist" version of VMS it isi- >>>>just a particular CD distribution of VMS. R >>>>There have been many recomendations on this newsgroup from Compaq/HP employeesQ >>>>for hobbyists to borrow "commercial distributions" from friends who work withtR >>>>VMS if there has been a holdup in getting the hobbyist distribution or if theyQ >>>>wanted a layered product which wasn't put on the hobbyist CD because of spacer6 >>>>rsstrictions but for which a license was provided. >>>fG >>>Sorry. I was not clear. I should have written "you may not, but you oJ >>>can". The OpenVMS Hobbyist licence expressively (sp?) mention that you L >>>are not allowed to use another VMS version than the one available on the  >>>Hobbyist CD.g >>>o >> oM >> I've never used a system under the hobbyist license however looking at then9 >> Montagar site I can't see anything remotely like that.w< >> It certainly isn't in the COMPAQ HOBBY License agreement  >> see >>  < >> http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/terms_and_conditions.txt >> - >> or- >> -9 >> http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/register_license.html7 >> m0 >> In fact the site explicitly tells you that :- >> e >> "Q >> At this time, OpenVMS Vax media kits are sold out. If you are still interesteduL >> in getting OpenVMS for your VAX,you may try borrowing a CD from a friend,9 >> co-worker, local Encompass LUG, Ebay, or other places.bN >> Please note that any OpenVMS distribution is legal to use with the Hobbyist* >> Program (as long as it's not stolen!)." >> n >> See >> o. >> http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/mount.html >o   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 06:38:00 -08007 From: stephen_bainbridge@yahoo.co.uk (Steve Bainbridge)  Subject: Sockets API and PascalA< Message-ID: <a48f6f51.0301160638.e0b2c44@posting.google.com>   Hi,s  F I writing a Pascal program that uses sockets via the QIO interface andC I would like to access some of the functions from the C Sockets APItC such as NTOHS. Is this possible ? If so, which library do I need toh+ link against to give me the API functions ?)   Regards, Stever   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:17:16 +0100n6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk># Subject: Re: Sockets API and PascalT) Message-ID: <3E26CCFC.1010002@vajhoej.dk>i   Steve Bainbridge wrote: H > I writing a Pascal program that uses sockets via the QIO interface andE > I would like to access some of the functions from the C Sockets API E > such as NTOHS. Is this possible ? If so, which library do I need to-- > link against to give me the API functions ?r   program demo(input,output);g   type     uword = 0..65535;o  H [external(decc$ntohs)] function ntohs(%IMMED v : uword) : uword; extern;   beginh     writeln(ntohs(1)); end.   No special linking required.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:43:40 -0800t$ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com># Subject: RE: Sockets API and Pascalh0 Message-ID: <01C2BD3B.6BFE4020@sulfer.icius.com>  F That depends. What version of which TCP/IP stack are you using, and onA what version of VMS? If it's a recent version of UCX* on a recentsG version of VMS, IIRC (it's been a year or so) the linker will find themc automagically for you. m   ShaneK  F *=Yeah, yeah, I know that's the old name. But who wants to keep typing' "TCP/IP Services for VMS" all the time?o   -----Original Message-----$ From: stephen_bainbridge@yahoo.co.uk' [mailto:stephen_bainbridge@yahoo.co.uk] ( Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:38 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come Subject: Sockets API and Pascalr     Hi,v  F I writing a Pascal program that uses sockets via the QIO interface andC I would like to access some of the functions from the C Sockets API(C such as NTOHS. Is this possible ? If so, which library do I need to'+ link against to give me the API functions ?    Regards, Steve0   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 10:18:27 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)  Subject: Re: Spiralog anyone?$= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0301161018.31ceaed6@posting.google.com>n  d "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote in message news:<uEidnbtUbZ0Wwr2jXTWcoQ@metrocast.net>...E > Once you remove the assumption that most reads hit in cache, use of M > log-structuring for general-purpose storage becomes less tenable.  However,iL > for *some* kinds of data it's still nearly optimal, even without that muchN > caching - so what you want is a hybrid system that handles data according toL > how it's used (which must often be inferred from how it is structured, butN > once such a system exists a feedback loop exists that helps cause developers' > to structure the data appropriately).   + Interesting.  Care to expand on this a bit?   ? The strength of log-structured storage is its speed of streamedgB writes.  The weakness is that data tends to not land in an optimalC spot for later retrieval.  If one were to break the assumption that F once data is written, it tends to stay there until replaced, one couldC take advantage of the flexibility that is inherent in introducing a B mapping layer between LBNs as seen by the host file system and the physical storage locations.n  B One might observe typical read access patterns and re-arrange data= into physical storage order matching the anticipated order ofuF retrieval.  This could speed operations such as operating system boot,E image activation, and so forth, because the next data to be requestedmC would be in the track read-ahead cache found in most disks (and theo2 read-ahead cache found in some controllers) today.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:40:23 +0100 (MET)M9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>m% Subject: Re: Suppressing SMTP headerso; Message-ID: <01KRAQP1ATWY8WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>i  ? > > What I would like to have happen is to have the subject and H > > sender/recipients show up in VAXMail, and that is it.  Does anybody : > > know how I can get rid of the SMTP header information? > F > Sure.  Disable UCX's SMTP, download and install MX.  You can controlI > any or all of the headers that way.  I simply move them to the bottom. iH > That way, they're not in anyone's way, but I still have them in case I& > need to diagnose a routing problem.   H While there might be valid reasons for preferring MX to UCX/TCPIP SMTP,  this is NOT one of them.    I It is easily configurable and documented in HELP how to have the RFC 822 tG headers at the top, bottom or not at all.  This functionality has been t around for years.r  E Also keep in mind that the current version of TCPIP services is MUCH  G better than UCX 3.2.  My suspicion is that---admittedly because MX was ,I better to start with---the difference is smaller than it used to be thus aH quality, functionality etc are reasons to switch to MX for fewer people  than they were a few years ago.R  ! $  tcpip help set conf smtp/optio"  (          o  Header control. Specify one:  ?             HEADERS       Headers printed at bottom of messagese)             NOHEADERS     Headers omitted <             TOP_HEADERS   Headers printed at top of messages;             NOTOP_        Resets TOP_HEADERS to the default              HEADERS    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:13:49 -0500m; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com>t% Subject: Re: Suppressing SMTP headerso$ Message-ID: <3e26f659$1@news.si.com>  H >While there might be valid reasons for preferring MX to UCX/TCPIP SMTP, >this is NOT one of them.r  K Yes, it is.  TCP/IP Services cannot control individual headers.  You eitherUK have them all or you don't.  If you have them, they're either at the top orcI the bottom.  With MX, you can include exactly the headers you want, placeo: them at the top or the bottom, and suppress the remainder.  # $ mx_exe:mcp help set local/headers.   SETw     LOCALf       /HEADERS  B      /HEADERS=(TOP:([NO]hdrname[,...]),BOTTOM:([NO]hdrname[,...]))  J      Controls the placement  of  message  headers  in  local  delivery  ofJ      messages.   Any or all headers may be placed at the top and/or bottomJ      of the message, or not added to the message at all.  Valid values for      hdrname are:h                ALL                BCC                CCg                DATE                 ENCRYPTED                FROMi                IN_REPLY_TO                KEYWORDSn                MESSAGE_IDs                OTHER                RECEIVEDi                REFERENCEST                REPLY_TOr                RESENT_BCCp                RESENT_CC                RESENT_DATE                RESENT_FROM                 RESENT_MESSAGE_ID                RESENT_REPLY_TO                RESENT_SENDER                RESENT_TO                RETURN_PATH                SENDERt                SUBJECT                TOi  J      The hdrname keywords may be  negated.   ALL  specifies  all  headers;J      NOALL  specifies  no  headers.   OTHER  specifies  all headers with a8      header name not matching one of the other keywords. -- mI Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot comn5 Smiths Aerospace  Addresses modified to prevent SPAM.e@ 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991-8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:52:20 -040000 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>4 Subject: TCPIP: QIO: Cancelling a connection attempt/ Message-ID: <3E2664B3.5CDA9B6C@vl.videotron.ca>h  M With the QIO interface to TCPIP Services, one has many steps to take before ae. call is established and data can be exchanged.  # there is the initial $ASSIGN to BG0tJ then there is a bind to get an outgoing socket with the various TCP option: then there is a bind to the DNS server to resolve the name7 then there is the actual connection request to the hosth  I During each of those steps, if the step fails, is there a standard way togE properly cancel all of this to clean out everything so that it can bee( restarted without any memory leaks etc ?   is a $DEASSGN sufficient ? n< If not, at what point do additional steps need to be taken ?  L (I realise that once connection is established, a IO$M_DEACCESS is suggestedK to disconnect the link. Should this be avoided at all costs until a call is  succesfully established ?e  M I program of mine tends to go wacko after a few unsescful connection attemptspJ over time, and I am trying to figure out the exact proper method to handle connection request failures.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:58:02 -0000e From: "John" <john@dateline.gg>C  Subject: Testing.  Please ignore( Message-ID: <b0657o$7hp$1@ns2.cwgsy.net>   testing.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:38:38 -0000= From: "John" <john@dateline.gg>S  Subject: Testing.  Please ignore( Message-ID: <b0621d$7bm$1@ns2.cwgsy.net>  
 Testing...   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:41:20 +0100 1 From: SAP Trainee <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>S$ Subject: Re: Testing.  Please ignore& Message-ID: <3E26C490.6030305@Free.fr>   lower case t one dot.   D.  
 John a crit:6
 > testing. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:36:21 -0000r3 From: "Charlie Lofthouse" <chlofthouse@hotmail.com>d  Subject: Testing:  Please ignore( Message-ID: <b061t3$73p$1@ns2.cwgsy.net>   testing.....   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:24:48 -0500a, From: David Butenhof <David.Butenhof@hp.com> Subject: Re: THREADCP problems. Message-ID: <KgzV9.85$wA4.49@news.cpqcorp.net>   Robert TRAWISKI wrote:    > Hi,5 > L > I develop program that should have kernel thread disabled (OpenVMS v.7.2-1- > and OpenVMS v.7.3-1). I use THREADCP tools:i > A > $ THREADCP/DISABLE=(MULITPE_KERNEL_THREADS,UPCALLS) PROGRAM.EXEt > K > But the program link few shared libraries. Shuold I do the same for thosed > libraries ? For example: > A > $ THREADCP/DISABLE=(MULITPE_KERNEL_THREADS,UPCALLS) LIB1SHR.EXEi  L Only the value for the MAIN image counts. The linker completely ignores any # setting in loaded shared libraries.l   -- hC /--------------------[ David.Butenhof@hp.com ]--------------------\oC | Hewlett-Packard Company       Tru64 UNIX & VMS Thread Architect |oC |     My book: http://www.awl.com/cseng/titles/0-201-63392-2/     |eC \----[ http://homepage.mac.com/dbutenhof/Threads/Threads.html ]---/d   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:34:43 -0500n; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com>  Subject: TZ15 problems$ Message-ID: <3e26fb3f$1@news.si.com>  I I have a cluster of VAXes with four TZ15 (8mm) tape drives.  These drivessL have been working fine for years.  Last week, three of them started to fail,J reporting parity errors, device offline, and such.  All four of the drivesL are in StorageWorks cannisters with two drives in a BA shelf attached to theG SCSI bus of VAXA at positions 1 and 4 of the shelf and the other two in<J another BA shelf attached to the SCSI bus of VAXB and at positions 2 and 5* of the shelf.  Thus, the drives appear as:   $ sho dev mk  L Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans Mnt L  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count Cntp, $10$MKA100:   (VAXA)  Online               0- $10$MKA200:    (VAXB)  Online               0l, $10$MKA400:   (VAXA)  Online               0- $10$MKA500:    (VAXB)  Online               0y  L Our field service persion replaced the failed drives, but all of a sudden, I see:   $ sho dev mk  L Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntuL  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count Cntr, $10$MKA100:   (VAXA)  Online               0- $10$MKA200:    (VAXB)  Online               0t- $10$MKA400:    (VAXB)  Online               0 , $10$MKA400:   (VAXA)  Online               0- $10$MKA500:    (VAXB)  Online               0   K Notice the extra MKA400.  It appeared when we inserted a drive in slot 5 ofRL the shelf attached to VAXB.  It responds to commands as though it is MKA400.G We've checked the jumpers and they seem properly set to allow the shelfAG position to determine the SCSI ID.  If I reference the real MKA400 fromoK VAXA, both MKA400s show up as allocated and in use.  If I move the drive toeG another slot (i.e., if I remove MKA200 and put MKA500 in its place), itcI acquires the SCSI ID of the slot, so I know it's not hard-wired to a SCSIfK ID.  Lastly, if I try to reference MKA500, I get device timeouts, as though J it's not there at all (which it appears to be the case, since the drive is0 getting SCSI ID 4, in spite of being in slot 5).  H Now, I've made these drive switches while the VAXes have been running byG removing the power cords to the shelves and then removing/inserting thenD drives and finally replacing the cords.  Since they're not on an HSxL controller, there's no quiesce the bus button.  Besides, since these devicesL are the only ones on the bus besides the VAXes and no I/O is occuring when IK change them, I'm not worried about data loss.  Hoever, something appears to K be screwed up.  Rebooting is hard to do, since the VAXes are production and  used 24 hours a day.  H Any suggestions?  If I need to reboot, I can arrange it, but it's a last resort.l -- aI Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com 5 Smiths Aerospace  Addresses modified to prevent SPAM. @ 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991s8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:36:41 -0500e From: Dan <dan@vrx.net>r Subject: vax basic questions8 Message-ID: <46rd2vsatahnnl82ijfk26t7i2u6tnr9sm@4ax.com>  C Sorry I'm rather rusty at vax basic, but is there a way to read andy- write a binary file one byte/char at a time ?   1 input #1,a$ would read a string in, size unfixed,,B i forget if there is a way of defining A$ as a single char length, not sure that would help tho  @ and print #1,a$ has the same issues when putting output back out  / its been far too long since I did any of thise.o  = I prefer pascal myself, but not sure the state of vms pascal,wC if there are var t : text or such, or if I have to use file of chart or what?  = but using pascal, I have no idea how to use the system calls,.? like LIB$... etc (in basic you can run DCL commands from within-  without exiting and going back).  : Just trying to cover my options. It's been too many years.   Dan.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:54:31 -0800.$ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com>  Subject: RE: vax basic questions0 Message-ID: <01C2BD45.4A66A830@sulfer.icius.com>  G The simplest is to open the file and assign it a one-byte map, then use H PUT and GET. Of course, that will give you one-byte records in the file.C Don't know if that's a problem. Perhaps if you explained a bit moreO+ background; what are you trying to achieve?o   Shanee   -----Original Message----- From: Dan [mailto:dan@vrx.net]( Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:37 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come Subject: vax basic questions    C Sorry I'm rather rusty at vax basic, but is there a way to read and - write a binary file one byte/char at a time ?t  1 input #1,a$ would read a string in, size unfixed,eB i forget if there is a way of defining A$ as a single char length, not sure that would help tho  @ and print #1,a$ has the same issues when putting output back out  / its been far too long since I did any of thise.c  = I prefer pascal myself, but not sure the state of vms pascal, C if there are var t : text or such, or if I have to use file of char  or what?  = but using pascal, I have no idea how to use the system calls,/? like LIB$... etc (in basic you can run DCL commands from withind  without exiting and going back).  : Just trying to cover my options. It's been too many years.   Dan.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:12:04 -0500a& From: "Ed Vogel" <ed.vogel@compaq.com>  Subject: Re: vax basic questions. Message-ID: <3e26f5f5$1_2@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  $ "Dan" <dan@vrx.net> wrote in message2 news:46rd2vsatahnnl82ijfk26t7i2u6tnr9sm@4ax.com...E | Sorry I'm rather rusty at vax basic, but is there a way to read and / | write a binary file one byte/char at a time ?  |-  J     I'm a little rusty myself Dan (I keep wanting to add ";" at the end of every BASICr     statement).t  L     Create a 512 byte MAP, and then open the file with ORGANIZATION VIRTUAL, MAP <map name>.   H     (I think) the ORGANIZATION VIRTUAL will open the file in binary mode
 (doing RMSK     READS/WRITES, not GET/PUTS).  Doing this, you must get things in blocks 
 of 512 bytes,fL     but then if the MAP is an array of bytes that contains 512 elements, you can read one0     byte at a time by looking through the array.  I     There may be other ways of doing this, but I think what I've proposedu
 will work.       Ed VogelG     Compaq C Engineering (but worked on BASIC compilers for many years)y   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jan 2003 00:42:54 -0800 From: mb301@hotmail.com (MB), Subject: Where is RTL (DNS$ ) documentation?= Message-ID: <1d08b916.0301160042.61de78ff@posting.google.com>r  5 Does anyone know the location of the RTL (DNS$) docs?   ? The HP/Compaq search engine is unable to find close to a match.2  " http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/   Regardsx   Mark   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:52:23 +0000=' From: Martyn <mpattWINDOZE@bigfoot.com>t0 Subject: Re: Where is RTL (DNS$ ) documentation?* Message-ID: <3E2680D7.9080601@bigfoot.com>  	 MB wrote:_7 > Does anyone know the location of the RTL (DNS$) docs?o > A > The HP/Compaq search engine is unable to find close to a match.o > $ > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/ > 	 > Regards  >  > Mark   Try:  ; http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/72final/4527/4527pro.htmld         -- j( Speak to the Penguin, he is your friend.  ' Remove WINDOZE before replying by Email    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Jan 2003 12:55:13 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)" Subject: Re: ZMENU - Menus for DCL5 Message-ID: <b06a3g$m52uk$3@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>a  < In article <8d09fa7.0301151845.1d867729@posting.google.com>,, 	munroe@csworks.com (Richard Munroe) writes: > F > p.s. I'm looking for work.  Anybody interested can take a look at my? > resume it's online at http://www.acornsw.com/resume/dick.htmle  A This would probably work better if the webserver wasn't rejecting, connections.  :-(t   bill   -- hJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:39:09 +0100 1 From: SAP Trainee <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>i* Subject: [OT] SAP R/3 ASAP support? Where?& Message-ID: <3E26A7ED.7000405@Free.fr>  G Once upon a time, there was a poor little trainee attending an SAP R/3 w course.f  C The fellow was comfortable in his baskets (French expression) with -9 Internet technical forums and mailing lists, so he did a o9 search/window=(1,2) for all Internet SAP related support.h  / He actually found three matchs (not matches :-)1  , o  the ((in)famous) de.alt.comp.sap-r3 forum1 o  the (less famous) ITtoolBox mailing list (see a: http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/groups.asp?v=3Dsap-r3-dev) andm o  the 625 YAHOO Groups (see T7 http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=sap&submit=Search)n  I Reading across these texts, he found nearly no posts from native English tH speaking folks (and there are a lot in the States, in UK and elsewhere,  right? (sorry: aren't they?)   Why?2 Is SAP R/3 sold/installed/supported in the States?E If it is, where do "mes amis amricains et canadiens et autres" post a their questions?   Merci.   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:43:14 +0100l6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>. Subject: Re: [OT] SAP R/3 ASAP support? Where?) Message-ID: <3E26C502.1050702@vajhoej.dk>t   SAP Trainee wrote:E > The fellow was comfortable in his baskets (French expression) with  ; > Internet technical forums and mailing lists, so he did a  ; > search/window=(1,2) for all Internet SAP related support.p > 1 > He actually found three matchs (not matches :-)  > . > o  the ((in)famous) de.alt.comp.sap-r3 forum3 > o  the (less famous) ITtoolBox mailing list (see  < > http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/groups.asp?v=3Dsap-r3-dev) > andc > o  the 625 YAHOO Groups (see l9 > http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=sap&submit=Search)2 > K > Reading across these texts, he found nearly no posts from native English oJ > speaking folks (and there are a lot in the States, in UK and elsewhere,  > right? (sorry: aren't they?) >  > Why?4 > Is SAP R/3 sold/installed/supported in the States?  " SAP is also big in both US and UK.   My explanation is that: :    - most SAP programming/configuration/troubleshooting is      done by consultants4    - SAP consultants are greedy even for consultants  2 So noone wants to help with SAP problems for free.   Arne   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.032 ************************