0 INFO-VAX	Sat, 25 Jan 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 49      Contents:4 Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms" Re: Alpha workstation floppy drive" Re: Alpha workstation floppy drive" Re: Alpha workstation floppy drive Re: Alphaserver disks 1 RE: AlphaServer users given lifeline till Itanium 1 Re: AlphaServer users given lifeline till Itanium 2 Re: Command/API to list locked files in a cluster? Re: DECnet Proxy Problem Re: DECnet Proxy Problem Re: Disable IDE-Devices on AXP< Re: Dropping Display Postscript (was: automatic screensaver)< Re: Dropping Display Postscript (was: automatic screensaver) dynamic DNS 2 Re: EV7 hits, blows away Sun, IBM, 2-3x VMS gains!2 Re: EV7 hits, blows away Sun, IBM, 2-3x VMS gains!2 Re: EV7 hits, blows away Sun, IBM, 2-3x VMS gains!! Re: High hit rate VMS Web server? ! Re: High hit rate VMS Web server?  RE: How to Backup OSX + HP announces a new dawn for VMS on itanium! / Re: HP announces a new dawn for VMS on itanium!  Re: kvm switch for VAX? B Re: microdrives etc as storage devices (was Re: How to Backup OSX) Motif and SYS$QIO / AST in VMS& Re: MX 5.3-2 ignoring vmsmail forwards+ Re: Oracle LMON and LMDO buffered I/O usage # RE: Platform agnostic security hole  Re: VAX network monitor... Re: VAX network monitor... Re: VMS License Transfers? Re: VMS source listings ?  Re: VMS source listings ?  Re: VMS source listings ? > Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?> RE: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?> Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?> Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:44:27 +0000 (UTC) + From: david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) = Subject: Re: Access linux and/or windows directories with vms + Message-ID: <b0rjgb$5h0$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   T In article <3E30D110.4060007@netscape.net>, Alder <tbranscombe@netscape.net> writes: >David Webb wrote:7 > > In article <3E2DEB28.8050905@spammotel.com>, Alder  % ><PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> writes:  > >  > > Well lets see :- > > O > > Kerberos    -      http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/kerberos/  > >  > P >Yes, I have it running already, but it promises to provide authentication only,M >no encryption, at least until the next version of TCP/IP Services.  I didn't L >have much luck even with that, though, or so it seems.  According to the HPO >configuration note on their website, an authenticated Telnet session should be M >established without the appearance of "Username" or "Password" prompt on the F >terminal screen.  I cannot achieve that happy result.which I followedN >religiously, I should be able to pass my TGT back to the KTELNET server whichK >will launch a new telnet session without the need for entering userid and  O >password. Instead, and this is all done on the KDC system itself, I am always  . >prompted for userid and password again, i.e.: >  >$ kinit -f myusername+ >Password for myusername@EREBUS.HOMEIP.NET:  >$ telnet/auth/forw szeged 2323 ) >%TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 192.168.0.3 6 >%TELNET-I-SESSION, Session 01, host szeged, port 2323) >-TELNET-I-ESCAPE, Escape character is ^] @ >[ Kerberos V5 accepts you as ``myusername@EREBUS.HOMEIP.NET'' ] > @ >   Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3 >  >Username: myusername 
 >Password: > " >$ tcpip show service ktelnet/full >  >Service: KTELNET 0 >                             State:     EnabledH >Port:             2323     Protocol:  TCP             Address:  0.0.0.0M >Inactivity:          5     User_name: TCPIP$TELNET    Process:  TCPIP$TELNET F >Limit:               3     Active:        1           Peak:         1 ><snip>  > M >What did I get wrong here?  Should I expect to have to pass my username and  5 >password over the network after being authenticated?  >     O Sorry I haven't used this myself - but I would not have thought you should need * to send your username and password across.           > ? > >                    Public domain ssh client  available from / > >                    http://www.free.lp.fish/ R > >                    Richard Levitte is working on an improved public domain sshM > >                    client (Bamse) but I haven't heard how long it will be - > >                    before that is usable.  > > R > > Dec TCPIP services doesn't currently support SSH - though version 2 client and, > > server are promised in a future release. > 	 >Hope so.  >  > > O > > Multinet and TCPWARE have their own (I believe both now SSH v2) clients and  > > servers. > >  > 5 >I'd prefer to stick with TCPIP Services, but thanks.  > R > > SSL  - All the main VMS web servers (OSU, WASD, Apache - and probably purveyorR > > but I haven't checked) support SSL. For OSU and WASD you will need to downloadS > > the OpenSSL library from http://www.openssl.org/. If you have VMS 7.3-1 then an ) > > older version of openssl is included.  > R >I'm with you so far; I have WASD and OpenSSL installed, but my request was for a P >means of authenticating and encrypting telnet sessions.  Are you saying that I : >can accomplish secure telnet sessions with OpenSSL tools? >   " I'd think you should be able to :-  K 1) There are TELNET java applets. Hence I would think you should be able to G    install one of them on your webserver and connect to it over an SSL  #    connection eg http://javassh.org   D 2) VMS 7.3-1 includes on one of it's CDs STUNNEL which allows you to0    encrypt arbitrary TCP connections inside SSL.      See http://www.stunnel.org/  A    and  if you haven't got the 7.3-1 CD you can also get it from    C    http://www.openvms.compaq.com/opensource/opensource.html#stunnel   L    The executable supplied works on VMS 7.2-2 or later on Alpha. You may be G    able to recompile the source and get it working on earlier versions.     
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University    A >Sorry if the questions are ignorant, but consider the source :-)  >  >Alder >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:04:41 -0500 ; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com> + Subject: Re: Alpha workstation floppy drive $ Message-ID: <3e318e45$1@news.si.com>  J >Does anyone know how to get Open VMS 7.3 to recognize the floppy drive on an >alpha workstation 250?    The floppy on my Alpha is DVA0:  --  I Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com 5 Smiths Aerospace  Addresses modified to prevent SPAM. @ 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:28:02 -0500 1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> + Subject: Re: Alpha workstation floppy drive 2 Message-ID: <3E3193C2.BB0006F2@clarityconnect.com>  E I cannot INIT with HD either but /DEN=DD does work.  Give that a try.    Ardee & Larry Tenison wrote: > M > I have received several responses from my post yesterday.  Thanks to all of  > you for responding.  > 1 > Here are the commands and messages I am seeing:  >  > $show dev/full dva0 H > (response is the same as shown in response message below, EXCEPT totalI > blocks was showing 2880 until I tried the INIT command, then it went to  > 1440)  >  > $alloc dva0 fd > (no problem, seems to work)  > L > [At this point, I manually inserted a 1.44mb floppy that was PC-formatted) >  > $init/dens=hd dva0 temp * > %NONAME-F-NOMSG, message number 0075A004? > (appears to be some sort of unexpected initialization error?)  >  > $Mount/over=id dva0 ' > %MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format  > : > This is on an AlphaStation 200 4/233 with an Rx26 drive. > 2 > Anyone see these types of error messages before? > 	 > Thanks,  >  > Larry  > H > > Mine works fine (but I'm using lower density floppies cause I have a
 > > bunch) > > G > > Disk $20$DVA0: (xxxxxx), device type RX26, is online, file-oriented F > > device, shareable, available to cluster, error logging is enabled. > > ? > > Error count                    0    Operations completed 37 : > > Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC [SYSTEM]D > > Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,W@ > > Reference count                0    Default buffer size  512; > > Total blocks                1440    Sectors per track 9 = > > Total cylinders               80    Tracks per cylinder 2 $ > > Allocation class              20 > >  > > xxxxxx_3>mount/over=id dva0 9 > > %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, TEST mounted on _$20$DVA0: (xxxxxx)  > > xxxxxx_3>dir dva0:[000000] > >  > > Directory DVA0:[000000]  > > 8 > > 000000.DIR;1        BACKUP.SYS;1        BADBLK.SYS;1L > > BADLOG.SYS;1        BITMAP.SYS;1        CONTIN.SYS;1        CORIMG.SYS;18 > > INDEXF.SYS;1        SECURITY.SYS;1      VOLSET.SYS;1 > >  > > Total of 10 files. > >   > > Ardee & Larry Tenison wrote: > >>Q > >> Does anyone know how to get Open VMS 7.3 to recognize the floppy drive on an N > >> alpha workstation 250?  The device is known at the boot up console level,F > >> but VMS thinks it is an "invalid device".  Is this even possible? > >>; > >> Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.  > >> > >> thanks.   --  C Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Waverly, NY 0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan+ 	- Mark.Jilson@hp.com				- since 1975 or so  	- http://www.jilly.baka.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:33:33 GMT 1 From: Ardee & Larry Tenison <ardee.larry@gte.net> + Subject: Re: Alpha workstation floppy drive / Message-ID: <BA56C8E7.104C%ardee.larry@gte.net>   K I have received several responses from my post yesterday.  Thanks to all of  you for responding.   / Here are the commands and messages I am seeing:    $show dev/full dva0 F (response is the same as shown in response message below, EXCEPT totalG blocks was showing 2880 until I tried the INIT command, then it went to  1440)    $alloc dva0 fd (no problem, seems to work)   J [At this point, I manually inserted a 1.44mb floppy that was PC-formatted)   $init/dens=hd dva0 temp ( %NONAME-F-NOMSG, message number 0075A004= (appears to be some sort of unexpected initialization error?)    $Mount/over=id dva0 % %MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format   8 This is on an AlphaStation 200 4/233 with an Rx26 drive.  0 Anyone see these types of error messages before?   Thanks,    Larry   F > Mine works fine (but I'm using lower density floppies cause I have a > bunch) > E > Disk $20$DVA0: (xxxxxx), device type RX26, is online, file-oriented D > device, shareable, available to cluster, error logging is enabled. > = > Error count                    0    Operations completed 37 8 > Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC [SYSTEM]B > Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,W> > Reference count                0    Default buffer size  5129 > Total blocks                1440    Sectors per track 9 ; > Total cylinders               80    Tracks per cylinder 2 " > Allocation class              20 >  > xxxxxx_3>mount/over=id dva0 7 > %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, TEST mounted on _$20$DVA0: (xxxxxx)  > xxxxxx_3>dir dva0:[000000] >  > Directory DVA0:[000000]  > 6 > 000000.DIR;1        BACKUP.SYS;1        BADBLK.SYS;1J > BADLOG.SYS;1        BITMAP.SYS;1        CONTIN.SYS;1        CORIMG.SYS;16 > INDEXF.SYS;1        SECURITY.SYS;1      VOLSET.SYS;1 >  > Total of 10 files. >  > Ardee & Larry Tenison wrote: >>  O >> Does anyone know how to get Open VMS 7.3 to recognize the floppy drive on an L >> alpha workstation 250?  The device is known at the boot up console level,D >> but VMS thinks it is an "invalid device".  Is this even possible? >>  9 >> Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.  >>  
 >> thanks.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:55:06 -0500 3 From: "Homer J. Simpson" <hsimpson@burnsenergy.com>  Subject: Re: Alphaserver disks4 Message-ID: <pVmY9.5606$zt5.5320@news.bellsouth.net>  / Don't know if this would help, but on eBay. . . = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304025173   - "Sim" <sim@comox.nospam.net> wrote in message 2 news:3t523vgpl4soslsas5ukfmevk5s0sm6165@4ax.com... > Perfect, thanks. > F > On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:20:16 GMT, "Mark E. Levy" <mlevy70@attbi.com> > wrote: > 0 > >"Sim" <sim@comox.nospam.net> wrote in message5 > >news:ra613vgr574t9ee1shrdvk5o6i877cj24b@4ax.com...  > >> GreetingsK > >> I have an Alphaserver 1000 4/200 with a single RZ28-VA, I'm looking to I > >> add more disks, I see them from time to time on EBay but I'm unclear B > >> whether I can use them or not. Things like RZ28M-VA, RZ28D-W,H > >> RZ28C-VA. Is there a definitive list anplace that will tell me what > >> will work in this box? 
 > >> Thanx > > J > >All of the above will work. Any RZ26, RZ28, or RZ29 can be used in that box.E > >Look for the -VA (narrow, 8-bit), variety, as they may be a little  cheaper,L > >but the -VW or -W (wide, 16-bit) will work. The RZ26 are ~1GB, RZ28 ~2GB,F > >and RZ29 ~4GB. The letter following the number (RZ28B, RZ28C, etc.)I > >indicates that the internal drives are from different vendors, and may  haveK > >slightly different geometries. This is only a problem if you plan to use  the I > >drives in host-based shadow sets. Generally, any 8-bit SCSI drive will  work > >in that box.  > >  > >ML  > >  > >ML  > >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:11:59 -0800 $ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com>: Subject: RE: AlphaServer users given lifeline till Itanium0 Message-ID: <01C2C399.8FDC3060@sulfer.icius.com>  > I do know one advantage to Enterprise Edition. It doesn't needD activation. Now there might well be a procedure out there that makesG lesser versions act the same way, but I couldn't possibly say. [;-)] It H would be interesting to speculate whether running such a system would beF legal; you'd have paid for it, just bypassed the stage where it phonesE home to Microsoft and gives them selected details about your hardware @ configuration. Probably shouldn't speculate on that here though,G anything legal tends to turn into a flame war on this group recently...    Shane    -----Original Message-----+ From: Michael Unger [mailto:unger@decus.de] & Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:12 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com : Subject: Re: AlphaServer users given lifeline till Itanium    B "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> wrote:   > [...]  > G > From a pure VMS perspective - the hand we've been dealt is IA64. That H > turned out to be real good, since Intel, HP, Microsoft, and others hadN > already built the infrastructure needed to support enterprise class systems.  D "Winwoes Enterprise Edition" seems to be a real flop from all I have? read in the business section of newspapers over the last years.   @ And I tend to read "Winwoes/Office XP" as "eXtra Punishment" ...   Michael    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:59:45 -0500 A From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> : Subject: Re: AlphaServer users given lifeline till Itanium. Message-ID: <3e3146d3$1_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  = "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote in message ) news:3E305783.54413688@vl.videotron.ca...  > Fred Kleinsorge wrote:E > > equivalent performing systems out there.  I have faith in Intel's 
 ability toJ > > drive pricing of chips down.  Itanium2 volume may not be high yet, but we'll  > > see what happens.  > H > IA64's volumes will never be high. Intel has conceided the workstation market. I > They may be higher than Alpha's due to HP's installed base, but nowhere  near" > what Hammer or the 8086 will be. >   K Ah, JF the industry analyst.  We don't know what the x86-64 volume will be. K Certainly the volume for it's 64-bitness is little different than any other C 64-bit architecture.  It's volume future is dependent on it being a K price/performance leader in the 32-bit space - and in particular the single 
 CPU space.  L Now, in that 64-bit space what makes you think that it's volume will be less3 than say, Sparc?  Or Power?  Or Alpha?  Or PA-RISC?   K > Secondly, when you look at how must it costed Intel to develop IA64, (and  how L > long), I am not sure that Intel will be able to continue to subsidize Ia64
 > forever.  I This is meaningless.  It doesn't matter if they started the design during J World War I.  The development cost during that time has already been spentF and written off.  The current pricing of the chips and systems make it. competetive with the 64-bit systems out there.  : >EV7 may be a few years late, but that is probably becauseH > Digital/Compaq didn't want to spend much on developpers, and obviously because I > HP didn't want to rush EV7 out. But Intel gave it all it got to develop  the 2 > IA64 and it was delayed and delayed and delayed. >   @ Wild speculation from someone not objective, but with an agenda.  H > If the architecture itself is a dog (as Alpha developpers used to tell Digital J > customers at presentations), then Intel will be stuck with a dog for theL > remainder of IA64's life, while those with architectures that are easier ,L > faster and cheaper to update will move forwards and strenghten their lead. >   J The x86 is a dog that has taken over the industry.  Do I think Intel could8 have taken Alpha farther and faster than IA64 - perhaps.  G > The day wintel applications start to come out only on 64 bit versions  (aka: L > hammer) is the day Intel will be forced to produce a 64 bit 8086. At whichJ > point, it will be pointless do to IA64 *AND* the 64 bit 8086 at the same time, K > especially if the 64 bit 8086, being a simpler architecture, would cost a  lot ' > less and get the products out faster.  >   H It will be a *long* time before you see significant Windows applicationsI that are 64-bit only.  What it needs is the "killer app" that can only be L done with 64-bit Windows.  In the decade+ of 64-bit architectures, it hasn'tE happened yet.  Some scientific apps, and some database stuff - all on  non-Windows bases.  G > > Windows space, you may well be right.  Certainly the lack of binary F > > compatability between VAX and Alpha helped limit the Alpha success > L > Not if they had done "VEST" like Apple did when it migrated from the 68000 toI > PowerPC. All the products Palmer killed and never ported to Alpha would  run on= > Alpha today (and provide incentive to buy faster alphas !).  >   J VEST and its ilk (FX!32) have serious limitations and problems.  If I'm anK application provider - and someone has a problem with my package after it's " been translated - do I support it?   > L > > of you still have VAX systems?).  But binary compatability is completely4 > > meaningless in terms of VMS, or even UNIX/LINUX. > J > But for Wintel market, it is crucial. This is exactly what made the 8086 suchK > a success: people wanted to buy "compatible" software, and they were told  thatK > all the new software was coming out only for the IBM PC and not Apple, so  they > went IBM PC. >   J But x86-64 is only offering a marginal advantage to a small segment of theJ Windows market - not to the volume market.  Nor is it clear that they willG be able to compete (and not go Chapter 11) with it against Intel in the  32-bit volume market.   I > So that leaves only the "proprietary" chips for the low volume high end K > server. And this relegates IA64 to the same problem of Alpha: low volume,  > proprietary.  I Low volume is relative.  Everything except IA32 is "low-volume".  Yet HP, 3 SUN, IBM, SGI, and others are all in this business.   9 > Except HP is hindered by a bloated failed architecture,   G Eh?  This is just your personal biased opinion.  Failed?  Where?  When? I Seems to me that I have not heard Intel, HP, SGI, etc call it failed.  It K works.  Computer architecture folks might not "like" the architecture - but  they don't buy the systems.    > uncertain K > future because everyone knows Intel will eventually produce a 64 bit 8086  and K > that is the one that will be industry standard, high volume and low cost.  >   G Again, not true.  I'mpart of everyone, and I don't believe that it is a L given that Intel will produce a x86-64 - in fact they seem to have said they wont.   J > > From a pure VMS perspective - the hand we've been dealt is IA64.  ThatJ > > turned out to be real good, since Intel, HP, Microsoft, and others hadG > > already built the infrastructure needed to support enterprise class  systems. > H > Please, do not mention Microsoft in the same sentence as "enterprise".  G You want to invoke "Wintel" when it suits you, and disparage it when it L doesn't.  The Itanium2 chips, systems, and firmware are all Enterprise-class capable - today.   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jan 2003 15:47:08 -0800* From: cgilley@bravewc.com (Charles Gilley); Subject: Re: Command/API to list locked files in a cluster? = Message-ID: <139d5a58.0301241547.6bdf270d@posting.google.com>   \ Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com> wrote in message news:<01C2C1FB.A0DE7200@sulfer.icius.com>...H > It isn't cross cluster, but "SHOW DEV/FILES diskname" shows open filesF > within a single node. It's always been enough for me. Or do you mean8 > locked in a specific way? ie ALLOW NONE or ALLOW READ? >  > Shane  >   A Sure, it might be enough for you and me, but I'm not the one that C wants it :).  Another guy wants to do it his way, so I'm asking for 8 him.  It seems that there must be some way to do it.....   chg    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:30:52 -0500 - From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> ! Subject: Re: DECnet Proxy Problem 5 Message-ID: <b0s49m$s3han$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>    Christoph Gartmann wrote:  >...6 >   "NET$PROXY" [exec] = "DISKH:[SYSEXE]NET$PROXY.DAT"4 >   "NETPROXY" [exec] = "DISKH:[SYSEXE]NETPROXY.DAT" > ( > The following is a list of my proxies: >  >> sho/proxy * >...  H Just a guess since I don't have OSU-Server, but try a SHOW/PROXY/OLD, itL could be that you have a record in the phase 5 proxy DB, but not in phase 4.K Authorize will only show the Phase 5 but DECNet IV will not use it. If that 3 is the problem then REMOVE the proxy and re-add it.    -- Peter WeaverD Opinions are my own, and do not reflect the opinions of my employer,A nor the company that it sub-contracts to, nor the company that it  sub-contracts to.    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:02:28 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@PROBE.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)! Subject: Re: DECnet Proxy Problem . Message-ID: <b0s64k$k7o$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) writes in article <b0rqs7$hc9$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> dated 24 Jan 2003 16:50:15 GMT:O >VMS 7.1-2 on AXP, OSU-Server 3.10a: I installed the server, added the proxies, O >checked the node whether proxies are enabled but I can't get things to work. I P >am able to open the default page. But as soon as I click on "user-guide" I get: > O >   -ERROR-(500):  %SYSTEM-F-INVLOGIN, login information invalid at remote node  >  >On VMS I see:< >   %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  22-JAN-2003 17:07:12.03  %%%%%%%%%%%* >   Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on MPI7T >   Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on MPI7, system id: 10313 >   Auditable event:          Network login failure 5 >   Event time:               22-JAN-2003 17:07:12.03 & >   PID:                      27C0C624& >   Process name:             NET_8245% >   Username:                 ILLEGAL " >   Remote nodename:          MPI7( >   Remote node id:           1031 (1.7)) >   Remote username:          HTTP_SERVER ? >   Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user   $ (Your logicals are correct, AFAICT.)   >UAF> sho/proxy *  > & > Default proxies are flagged with (D) > 
 >MPI4::SYSTEM  >    HTTP_SERVER > 
 >MPI1::SYSTEM  >    SYSTEM  >  >MPI4::HTTP_SERVER >    HTTP_SERVER (D) > 
 >MPI7::SYSTEM  >    HTTP_SERVER >  >MPI7::HTTP_SERVER >    HTTP_SERVER (D)  H That last one looks like the one that should be used when the OSU serverL needs a task.  And yes, it does work even though you have the "known object"G set to ILLEGAL.  I ran my OSU server that way for several years until I  moved up to Apache.     K One thing -- did you "mc ncp set known proxies all" and/or reboot since you  added the proxy?  + --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.org > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:58:42 -0500 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)' Subject: Re: Disable IDE-Devices on AXP L Message-ID: <rdeininger-2401032258420001@user-2ive290.dialup.mindspring.com>  
 In articleI <D89EFABA49217E47B3DD46CF44051629328D8E@sblux047.schmidtbank.lux>, "Rhein . Andreas" <Andreas.Rhein@SchmidtBank.lu> wrote:  F >How can I disable by a SET command from the SRM/Boot Prompt the IDE =& >Devices on my AXP boxes (4100, DS20)?  E To keep VMS from configuring the devices, look at the SYSMAN commands  IO SHOW EXCLUDE  IO SET EXCLUDE  : IFAIK, you can't disable the devices at the console level.   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jan 2003 12:49:57 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) E Subject: Re: Dropping Display Postscript (was: automatic screensaver) 3 Message-ID: <t$M$j$QIhLt1@eisner.encompasserve.org>   p In article <3e318971_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> writes:  G >> Because third parties making up for OS failures is too Microsoftian.  > N > But Larry - if there is a market for this - you're a business man - fill the  F I am not a business man, I am a computer man, doing things that fit myD area of expertise.  Graphics is not one of them.  I am a consumer ofJ graphics, and have used DEC(nee VAX) Document for 15 years in my business.  M > demand.  Why is this Microsoftian?  Microsoftian is the opposite - they see G > something neat being done by a 3rd party and they buy it, or copy it.   J Microsoft creates the possibilities, like Word 6 Macro viruses, and leavesI it for third parties to fill the holes with virus detection software that  would otherwise be unnecessary.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:36:11 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGE Subject: Re: Dropping Display Postscript (was: automatic screensaver) 0 Message-ID: <00A1A73E.6AAAE701@SendSpamHere.ORG>  c In article <gpsh6vvNXQJi@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: s >In article <3e31764f$1_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> writes:  >>  = >> "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message 0 >> news:IDL5xY9QvEDq@eisner.encompasserve.org...B >>> In article <3e3024e0_2@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge"4 >> <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> writes: >>> G >>> I have a hard time thinking of something else that has pretty fonts F >>> and is supported back to VMS V5.2.  VMS Development has the luxuryG >>> of no requirement to run on older versions of the operating system.  >>  I >> Larry, I feel for you.  Since there seems to be interest here, why not / >> contact the 3rd party and develop a product?  > E >Because third parties making up for OS failures is too Microsoftian.    Touch!  --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:47:04 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>  Subject: dynamic DNS; Message-ID: <01KRMKF8P92G96VR7Q@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   " As one can see from, for example,   &    http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/  F there are many dynamic-DNS providers out there.  Can anyone recommend D one which is not only good in general but also easy to use from VMS?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:13:46 -0500 ; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com> ; Subject: Re: EV7 hits, blows away Sun, IBM, 2-3x VMS gains! $ Message-ID: <3e319067$1@news.si.com>  E >if you don't want it referenced, then don't post it in a free public  >forum ... that's the law ...   L You really don't know what you're talking about, do you.  If you believe theJ above, then you obviously believe that it's OK to go into a public library& and duplicate whatever books you want. --  I Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com 5 Smiths Aerospace  Addresses modified to prevent SPAM. @ 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jan 2003 15:49:07 -0800* From: cgilley@bravewc.com (Charles Gilley); Subject: Re: EV7 hits, blows away Sun, IBM, 2-3x VMS gains! = Message-ID: <139d5a58.0301241549.78907116@posting.google.com>   \ David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in message news:<3E307E63.8090603@tsoft-inc.com>... > Charles Gilley wrote:  > + > > boy.... are you people off topic :):):)  > > ...ducking.... > >  > > quack, quack...  > >  > $ > Time honored c.o.v tradition.  :-) >  > quack   T Ahhh, the roots of usenet live on... you know why we need fiber, right?  Flame wars.  , I see they have moved off to another thread.  $ *aflac*!  no, wait wrong commercial.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:36:35 GMT ( From: "Mark E. Levy" <mlevy70@attbi.com>; Subject: Re: EV7 hits, blows away Sun, IBM, 2-3x VMS gains! , Message-ID: <DSlY9.27289$AV4.2492@sccrnsc01>  7 "Charles Gilley" <cgilley@bravewc.com> wrote in message 7 news:139d5a58.0301241549.78907116@posting.google.com... 5 > David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in message ( news:<3E307E63.8090603@tsoft-inc.com>... > > Charles Gilley wrote:  > > - > > > boy.... are you people off topic :):):)  > > > ...ducking.... > > >  > > > quack, quack...  > > >  > > & > > Time honored c.o.v tradition.  :-) > > 	 > > quack  > I > Ahhh, the roots of usenet live on... you know why we need fiber, right?  Flame wars.  > . > I see they have moved off to another thread. > & > *aflac*!  no, wait wrong commercial.  & Nah, Bob just found himself outgunned.   ML   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Jan 2003 00:09:44 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>* Subject: Re: High hit rate VMS Web server?6 Message-ID: <20030125000944.19677.qmail@gacracker.org>  9 On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote: D >Does anyone know of any currently VMS-hosted web servers that has aF >page hit rate of between 1-2 million pages per day that I can cite as* >references (either officially or ad hoc)?  D >In the 'old' days, one used to be able to use Amazon as an example.0 >How about some of the European stock exchanges?  E >http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/  provides some other stats (not G >hits) if you know which site to search for. Any other sites similar to @ >this out there?...I thought I saw a mention of something in cov* >recently but I can't seem to find it now.  I I immediately thought of the old Northern Light search engine. They still J have COMPAQ banners, and mention of VMS on the site, but Netcraft says theH site is Solaris - so VMS must be doing the grunt work in the background.< (Or they're being clever and giving misleading information).  K [X-No-Archive has been set on this post, thus it will not appear in Google. 5  Volunteers to shoot Bob C when he mentions Purveyor, "  please form an orderly queue. :)]     Doc. --  : Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...K ~ VAXman                                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:43:36 -0500 < From: "Carlc Internet Services" <cc@nospamming-to-carlc.com>* Subject: Re: High hit rate VMS Web server?1 Message-ID: <MckY9.123$dr3.65810@news.uswest.net>   . "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in messageB news:1%iY9.96274$ej1.26146@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...E > Does anyone know of any currently VMS-hosted web servers that has a G > page hit rate of between 1-2 million pages per day that I can cite as + > references (either officially or ad hoc)?   F Gee... I wish... We get thousands, and some are big hitters, like many> are video streams (autocrossers, cars racing) that run 5-10Mb.  D > I've come across an opportunity that needs to be able to handle atF > least this many page hits in an 8 hour window as DHTML page requestsC > via SSL. Of course it would have to be load balanced and failoverS
 > capable.  G I've set that up, clustering using a common IP address will work nicelysE with OSU server, and the servers will load balance. With SSL, it getsD# a little funny, but it should work.y  C > I'd like to get some sense of  the size of the h/w and web serverp > software used as well. >)E > In the 'old' days, one used to be able to use Amazon as an example. 1 > How about some of the European stock exchanges?   # Wasn't Etrade a heavy with OpenVMS?    Carl   ==================== http://www.carlc.com/t  =       "Price, Performance, Quality. Choose any two you like."w   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:59:33 -0800 $ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com> Subject: RE: How to Backup OSX0 Message-ID: <01C2C397.BEF1A260@sulfer.icius.com>  A Actually, some do. There are solid-state USB devices that presentMG themselves as disks to the OS. I think what Tony meant was that for thewF cubes to replace /all/ storage media, fitting them in the pocket was a pre-requisite. One of many.e   Shaner   -----Original Message-----. From: Howard S Shubs [mailto:howard@shubs.net]( Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:39 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come Subject: Re: How to Backup OSX    , In article <d3ZX9.10400$4y2.1291@sccrnsc04>,'  Tony Lawrence <tony@pcunix.com> wrote:p  ; > Until the "cubes" fit in a shirt pocket, it won't happen.-  C Current disks don't fit there, why do these have to?  Just curious.    -- U4 Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jan 2003 16:56:05 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)4 Subject: HP announces a new dawn for VMS on itanium!= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0301241656.7df011fe@posting.google.com>e  + it's almost time for a new dawn for vms ...G  ? http://www.sap.info/en/news.php4?OID=Article-214973e2fc0a0e2e11    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:42:18 -0600b1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>b8 Subject: Re: HP announces a new dawn for VMS on itanium!' Message-ID: <3E32079A.66BC1766@fsi.net>T   Bob Ceculski wrote:' > - > it's almost time for a new dawn for vms ...t > A > http://www.sap.info/en/news.php4?OID=Article-214973e2fc0a0e2e11a   *Sigh*  H Unless it's a highly-visible ad in a mainstream IT industry publication, it's just more of the same.h   -- r David J. Dachteran dba DJE Systemsh http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/r   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:40:31 -0500r! From: Jim Agnew <jpagnew@vcu.edu>h  Subject: Re: kvm switch for VAX?' Message-ID: <3E3196AF.D59C68B6@vcu.edu>d  H Try Blackbox.com   they make all sorts of things, and I think i remember  something in there..  I think...   Jimf   Vilmos Soti wrote: >  > Hello, > > > Is there such a kvm switch which enables me to connect a VAXC > (3100 m76) to connect to my one true set of monitor and keyboard?  > Or at least the monitor? > G > Or is there a converter which allows me to connect the aforementionedt > box to a vga monitor?e >  > Thanks, Vilmos   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:31:02 -0500 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>K Subject: Re: microdrives etc as storage devices (was Re: How to Backup OSX) 2 Message-ID: <PWudnTJKUO4NP6yjXTWcrg@metrocast.net>  @ "John Wallace" <johnwallace4@yahoo.dotco.dotuk> wrote in message( news:b0re18$h3$1@venus.btinternet.com... > ? > "Ron Shepard" <ron-shepard@NOSPAM.attbi.com> wrote in messages= > news:ron-shepard-C079FD.00250424012003@netnews.attbi.com...t@ > > In article <howard-37C75E.22390423012003@enews.newsguy.com>,- > >  Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:n > >nA > > > > Until the "cubes" fit in a shirt pocket, it won't happen.a > > >cI > > > Current disks don't fit there, why do these have to?  Just curious.  > > G > > This has little to do with the backup discussion, but there are 2.5hF > > inch hard drives that do fit in your shirt pocket.  Also, I saw anG > > article recently about a small 4GB drive that was about the size ofCE > > a postage stamp and about 2mm thick.  Imagine putting a few dozendD > > (or a few hundred) of these on a card with a RAID controller for > > fault tolerance. > >E > > $.02 -Ron Sheparde >bK > FYI OT ETC: Beware. Some of these "microdrives" make it *very* clear thattH > they are not intended for active long term data storage and retrieval,D > rather for data transportation between systems. My Tosh 2GB PCMCIA	 certainlySJ > does; I had assumed that other similar "microdrives" from IBM (they do aD > CompactFlash one meeting your description) and others  had similar > restrictions.i  H 4 GB in CompactFlash?  I hadn't seen anything close to that in a 1" form5 factor, though I'm not well-acquainted with the area.e  H There is, however, a 1" form factor disk drive (3600 rpm, 12 ms. averageL seek, etc.) called a Microdrive.  Current capacities range up to 1 GB, but IL think I read recently that a larger one is on the way.  And my guess is thatI its reliability/lifetime characteristics are considerably closer to those  for larger disks than to flash.r   - bill   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jan 2003 20:12:40 -0800/ From: stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au (Stuart Norris) ' Subject: Motif and SYS$QIO / AST in VMSf= Message-ID: <51262235.0301242012.660414d6@posting.google.com>h  
 Dear Readers,.  F I am trying to write a program using OpenVMS (7.3-1) and Motif (1.2-6); that does async serial communications.  I am having trouble F understanding the interaction between the Motif event loop and ASTs in VMS.  F I understand programming in X and Motif and QIO and AST programming on7 VMS but I just do not understand the combining of them.   A For my test program I have a Motif program that just has a single0F button that sends a at' command to a modem and expects the ok' back.E  I have chosen a modem for the little test program as I am certain of3 the communications.   A Once the user pushes the motif button in the call back I issues arE SYS$QIO with wrtvblk to the channel with an AST for completion of the D write.  In the completion of the write I issues another SYS$QIO withC readvlbk to the channel with an AST for completion of the read.  In E the completion AST I change the value of a label in the Motif to show C that the value has been read back.  But the label never updates.  I 8 can see in the debugger that the label is being changed.  E So how should I combine the communications and the Xevent loop.  WithtD my real device the times are not a quick as talking to a modem and IE want the Xevent loop to continue processing Xevents and I do not want/A the CPU to goto 100% waiting in the Xevent.  Do I need to fake an:3 Xevent in the AST to tell Motif to update the labelt  B Are there any examples that I should review for interaction of AST programming and Motif on VMS.   - I hope I have explained my problem clearly.        Thanks.s     Stuart   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:15:25 GMTe. From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)/ Subject: Re: MX 5.3-2 ignoring vmsmail forwardsk4 Message-ID: <x9hY9.199266$TY.1827199@news.chello.at>  i In article <b0lns4$2h9$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes: j >"Peter LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message news:E7YW9.104910$TY.963915@news.chello.at...l >> In article <b0gk6f$poa$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes:V >> >"Peter LANGSTOEGER"  wrote in message news:TcwW9.67405$TY.611542@news.chello.at... >> >> But I've another hint: >> >>e@ >> >> MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER=JOHNNY.CASH SMTP%"CASH@domain.name" >> >P >> >Ours are all simple, local forwards, used purely to create aliases for a vms
 >> >username.iN >> >We might have john.cash, johnny.cash, jonathan.cash, all pointing to cash. >>K >> Sorry for being unclear. I do not use NAME_CONVERSION to do what you do. G >> I use SET FORWARD. And I do this normally on the local machine only. 
 >> Maybe a >>1 >> MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER=JOHNNY.CASH SMTP%"CASH" 3 >> MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER=JONATHAN.CASH SMTP%"CASH"d >>L >> will do exactly the same (I can't remember why we decided to not omit the< >> domain names) but the magic portion is the SMTP% (or MX%) > ' >Sorry - I think maybe _I_ was unclear.  >We have (for inbound mail): > % >MAIL> set forw/user=johnny.cash cash   H Ok. But then I have to repeat my warning: Iff a user does make a forwardG on its own for all mails (eg. to an internet mail service for accessing G them from at home or a business journey or for whatever reason) - which H you can't prevent ! - then the mail headers get lost/mangled even in theJ case the user does make his forward correctly (because you made it wrong).  F >We used name_conversion.exe to do the reverse translation on outgoingA >messages, so that mail sent by user cash would appear to be fromyA >johnny.cash@here.com (and any local CC's would be fixed up too).aJ >For some reason the presence of name_conversion broke the inbound VMSmail% >forwarding after we upgraded to 5.3.    Maybe Matt can explain it...   -- 	 Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERh% Network and OpenVMS system specialist- E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jan 2003 15:07:23 -0800, From: mcbill20@hotmail.com (Bill McLaughlin)4 Subject: Re: Oracle LMON and LMDO buffered I/O usage< Message-ID: <e9cbc4f2.0301241507.173e536@posting.google.com>  B Thanks again. It looks like 8.1.6 may be a little different. ThereE were no similar lines in the config and init files. I ended up havinggA to run ORACLEINS.COM and selecting "rebuild" of RDBMS withotu thea parallel server option.,   Bill  d "Sven Tieste" <sven.tieste@sw-hb.de> wrote in message news:<b0ivkq$h9m$1@f40-3.zfn.uni-bremen.de>... > Hello,6 > the only thing we did to disable parallel server was  > commenting lines like this out > #parallel server configo > #parallel_server = trueA  > #parallel_server_instances = 2+ > Maybe have a look at the instance number.r0 > And maybe der is another init.ora-file defined  > in your "normal" init.ora like# > ifile   = ORA_SYSTEM:ABC_INIT.ORAd2 > If that all does not work I have no further idea1 > except to use the oracle-support or if you havei8 > access to oracle metalink search there for a solution. > Metalink could be reached by > http://metalink.oracle.com/0 > Good lucks > Sven >  >  > C > Bill McLaughlin <mcbill20@hotmail.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 4 > e9cbc4f2.0301201614.7b8fac9a@posting.google.com...D > > Thanks for the info. However, I can't seem to find the option toC > > disable the parallel server. The only lines in my init.ora that < > > reference the parallel server are already commented out: > > 1 > > # parallel_max_servers = 4 x (number of CPUs)M > > # MEDIUM1 > > # parallel_max_servers = 4 x (number of CPUs)d > > # LARGE08 > > # define parallel server (multi-instance) parameters > >AH > > Could you tell me what you did to disbale the parallel server?  I amI > > still trying to get my hands on the VMS 7.3 and Oracle 9i CD's so I'd 2 > > like to just turn off the parallel option now. > >r > > Thanks.t > > Bill McLaughlino > >o > > 9 > > "Sven Tieste" <sven.tieste@sw-hb.de> wrote in message>1 >  news:<b0gb70$keg$1@f40-3.zfn.uni-bremen.de>...  > > > It is me again! L > > > I forget, the first thing we did were disabling Oracle Parallel Server >  inl" > > > init.ora and restart the DB.B > > > After that there will be no LMD0-process and LMON needs less > > > CPU and IO.0 > > > greetings 
 > > > SvenC > > > Sven Tieste <sven.tieste@sw-hb.de> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:d- > > > b0gao5$gqa$1@f40-3.zfn.uni-bremen.de...l > > > > Hello Bill,nI > > > > we are using a AlphaServer 1000A 5/400 and had the same problems.dJ > > > > First, these two processes are processes of Oracle Parallel Server >  (AFAIK).3N > > > > We solved this problem by upgrade to OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7.3.G > > > > After this all work much better than before (quite good but not  >  perfect;o >  IOp= > > > > from >500 to about 75; CPU from >90% to mean of 15%).cL > > > > I think this problem is well known at Oracle and HP but both of them >  did >  not& > > > > resolved it in older versions. > > > > Hope this will help. > > > > greetingsa > > > > Sven > > > >u > > > >rI > > > > Bill McLaughlin <mcbill20@hotmail.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:l: > > > > e9cbc4f2.0301170918.296fa424@posting.google.com...N > > > > > I am running Oracle Enterprise Server version 8.1.6.0.0 on Alpha VMSF > > > > > 7.2. This is on a home system (AlphaStation 500 with 256MB).	 > > > > > N > > > > > Oracle works OK but there are two processes that eat up huge amountsK > > > > > of buffered I/O's, even on a totally idle database. The processesB >  areK > > > > > LMON and LMDO. When I do a MONITOR SYSTEM, the buffered I/O total  >  sitseN > > > > > at about 1030 and the top users alternate between the LMDO and LMON,I > > > > > at 512 or 513 each. After three days of uptime (with no processwK > > > > > accessing Oracle for the first two), the LMON has done 6133499390-N > > > > > I/O's and the LMDO has done 6133587962 I/O's. Here's the output form > > > > > SHOW SYSTEM:	 > > > > >:F > > > > > 2020012E ORA_V8160000000 LEF      6      194   0 00:00:00.22 >  277 > > > > >    263F > > > > > 20200130 ORA_CALLS1_PMON HIB      6      117   0 00:00:04.60 >  895 > > > > >   1079F > > > > > 20200131 ORA_CALLS1_LMON HIB      6133499390   0 00:00:06.45 >  1551l > > > > >   1340F > > > > > 20200132 ORA_CALLS1_LMD0 HIB      6133587962   0 00:00:06.13 >  908 > > > > >    909F > > > > > 20200133 ORA_CALLS1_DBW0 HIB      6      168   0 00:00:00.41 >  939 > > > > >   1010F > > > > > 20200134 ORA_CALLS1_LGWR HIB      6      250   0 00:00:00.39 >  906 > > > > >   1056F > > > > > 20200135 ORA_CALLS1_CKPT HIB      5   169118   0 00:01:45.14 >  770 > > > > >   1115F > > > > > 20200136 ORA_CALLS1_SMON HIB      4      200   0 00:00:09.84 >  1634u > > > > >   1267F > > > > > 20200137 ORA_CALLS1_RECO HIB      4      103   0 00:00:00.96 >  1103l > > > > >   1381F > > > > > 20200138 ORA_LISTENER907 HIB      5   260834   0 00:00:10.93 >  793 > > > > >    596F > > > > > 20200199 ORA_CALLS1B4824 LEF      6      191   0 00:00:00.35 >  2835o > > > > >   1022	 > > > > >t	 > > > > >s	 > > > > >e > > > > > Any ideas?	 > > > > >e > > > > > Thanks in advance.	 > > > > >  > > > > > Bill McLaughlin" > > > >  > > > >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:06:35 -0800a$ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com>, Subject: RE: Platform agnostic security hole0 Message-ID: <01C2C398.AEA5C520@sulfer.icius.com>  7 "Mike Rechtman" <rechtman@tzora.co.il> wrote in messagek$ news:3E30DC78.3020709@tzora.co.il... > Shane Smith wrote:< > > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,841047,00.asp > >@I > > To quote a snippet [and of course, not making any money off it :-) ]:i > >s > > L > >>The attack, dubbed Cross-Site Tracing (XST), involves a method whereby aI > >>programmable engine or common client side scripting language, such as H > >>JavaScript, accesses and obtains Web authentication credentials on aF > >>target system regardless of how well the information is stored andJ > >>protected. This in turn can be used by a hacker to assume the identityE > >>of a victim on an array of sites ranging from Web mail, to onliner banking, > >>to auction sites.t > >d > > J > > And yep, I reckon it means Mozilla on VMS will be affected, so this is
 > > on topic.b >eJ >  From my reading of the article XST affects web *servers*, not browsers.A > This may still be applicable to Apache on VMS, or other servers2 > currently less supported.r   <Snip>  D You are quite possibly right sir. However, the first couple of linksB that led me to that one stated it was a browser vulnerability. AndH anyone who runs Mozilla behind a firewall that reports outgoing activityG (yes, I'm paranoid), Mozilla does quite often request permission to actoF as a server. What kind of server I couldn't say though, and would love0 to know if any Mozilla developers are listening.   Shaneh   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:28:31 -0400.0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca># Subject: Re: VAX network monitor...t/ Message-ID: <3E31AFF5.C0DFEE8D@vl.videotron.ca>u   Shiva MahaDeva wrote:e4 > Issuing "dir vax01::sys$manager:operator.log" is a+ > way, but Id like a most intelligent way.a    J If you use TCPIP services (or its older verion UCX), you might be able to    $PING -c 1  host0 $IF $STATUS .EQ. %X00000001 THEN GOTO HOST_IS_UP  ? If this were in a cluster, it woudl be a lot easier, of course.t   for decnet:a  V $OPEN/READ/WRITE/ERROR=HOST_IS_DOWN temp node::dev:[dir]file  (or some network object) $CLOSE temph   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:18:12 -0600t1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>l# Subject: Re: VAX network monitor...l' Message-ID: <3E3201F4.D9DA5BBB@fsi.net>e   Jerry Leslie wrote:o > 0 > Shiva MahaDeva (contracer11@uol.com.br) wrote:? > : In my job we have 30 Micro VAX running VMS V5.5 in network.o2 > : Id like to create a procedure to continuously9 > : verify if any server is down. How could I make this ? 6 > : Issuing "dir vax01::sys$manager:operator.log" is a- > : way, but Id like a most intelligent way.l > : We use UCX.8 > : Thanks in advance. > E > You can use ping, but you'll need to experiment with what status is D > returned by ping for the version of UCX you're running. These work > for Version V4.2:i > / >    %X130A8093 -> %UCX-I-LOOPACT, !AS is aliven9 >    %X130A809B -> %UCX-I-LOOPINACT, !AS does not respond < >    %X100182B2 -> %UCX-E-GETHST, Error in getting host name/ >                  %RMS-E-RNF, record not founda  ( ...or simply do this after the UCX PING:  $ $ IF ($STATUS .AND. 1) .NE. 1 THEN - $ some suitable commandA  9 Any unfavorable result should yield a non-success status.    -- e David J. Dachterad dba DJE Systemse http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:55:13 -0500E2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)# Subject: Re: VMS License Transfers?vL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2401032255130001@user-2ive290.dialup.mindspring.com>  = In article <ea44f5a1.0301241013.4430fc26@posting.google.com>,u& tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) wrote:  E >I am considering buying a DS10 to replace a failed AlphaStation 400.m >eI >Can I use the Paks from the 400 to cover some of the licenses, includingo2 >an 8 user license and and disk shadowing license.  E In addition to what Larry advised, you should ask HP or your reseller @ about trading in your old licenses.  You should be able to get a5 substantial credit toward licenses on the new system.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:24:12 -0500l From: Dan <dan@vrx.net> " Subject: Re: VMS source listings ?8 Message-ID: <r6833v807b1jsa13cj8dtl1s0qspblls0l@4ax.com>  " ok how do I get them and how much? Dan.F On 23 Jan 2003 16:36:46 -0600, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:  S >In article <imb03voo37n6433et7o8dksrhj5l3n7cld@4ax.com>, Dan <dan@vrx.net> writes:oD >> Ok, I own the microfiche source listings for vms, and I know manyH >> people have the listings on CDRom, and I know with a support contract= >> I could have gotten a CD for as little as $45 from Compaq.  >> m6 >> I also saw a source listing CD set on Ebay, rarely.0 >> Is there any way to get a look at these CDs ? >i >	QB-001AB-E8 (VAX)c >e >	QB-MT1AB-E8 (Alpha)t >yB >No support contract is required, but there is a detailed contract% >for getting licenced to use the CDs.    ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jan 2003 14:52:10 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) " Subject: Re: VMS source listings ?3 Message-ID: <nz$$zGCa34dH@eisner.encompasserve.org>i  R In article <r6833v807b1jsa13cj8dtl1s0qspblls0l@4ax.com>, Dan <dan@vrx.net> writes:$ > ok how do I get them and how much? > Dan.H > On 23 Jan 2003 16:36:46 -0600, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) > wrote: > T >>In article <imb03voo37n6433et7o8dksrhj5l3n7cld@4ax.com>, Dan <dan@vrx.net> writes:E >>> Ok, I own the microfiche source listings for vms, and I know manyoI >>> people have the listings on CDRom, and I know with a support contractn> >>> I could have gotten a CD for as little as $45 from Compaq. >>> 7 >>> I also saw a source listing CD set on Ebay, rarely.21 >>> Is there any way to get a look at these CDs ?l >> >>	QB-001AB-E8 (VAX) >> >>	QB-MT1AB-E8 (Alpha) >>C >>No support contract is required, but there is a detailed contractg& >>for getting licenced to use the CDs.  ? You buy them from whomever you would buy any other VMS license, : and they can tell you the price they would require (it may@ depend on what country you are in, e.g., lots more for Iraq :-).   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jan 2003 20:16:57 -0800/ From: stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au (Stuart Norris)h" Subject: Re: VMS source listings ?= Message-ID: <51262235.0301242016.32fa5229@posting.google.com>m   Hi Dan,   > I am interested in the comment about $45 if you have a supportF contract.  Do you know what level of support contract this is and what option is this.r  ( I wonder this applies also in Australia.   Thanks   Stuart.b  W Dan <dan@vrx.net> wrote in message news:<imb03voo37n6433et7o8dksrhj5l3n7cld@4ax.com>... C > Ok, I own the microfiche source listings for vms, and I know manyTG > people have the listings on CDRom, and I know with a support contracts< > I could have gotten a CD for as little as $45 from Compaq. > 5 > I also saw a source listing CD set on Ebay, rarely.o/ > Is there any way to get a look at these CDs ?yH > microfiche is excessively difficult medium to actually use (or search) >  > Dan.   ------------------------------   Date: 24 Jan 2003 13:18 CDT ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) G Subject: Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?t- Message-ID: <24JAN200313182025@gerg.tamu.edu>   1 Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes... o }In article <b096a4ee.0301240848.73c6b127@posting.google.com>, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes:  } G }> Is LBN 0 on Files-11 disks at the outer edge of the physical disk orm: }> the inner edge? (Assuming revectoring hasn't occurred.) }> @F }> Where on the physical disk is LBN 0 located with other popular file }> systems?  } K }LBN 0 must be at the inner edge, since discs are written starting from thex }center.  : I assume you are referring to the positioning on the CD-R.  D Hard drives (in general - I expect some are different) have LBN 0 onB the outermost track. They start from the outside and work in, thusC the lower numbered blocks have the fastest transfer rates on modern:E drives (since they use roughly constant bit density, or at least someuF number of zones such that the outer zones have higher density than theH inner zones). The difference in transfer rate at the two ends is perhapsG as large as a factor of two or maybe even two and a half, more or less.7E (This is actually one of the reasons that computers often seem to get B slower as you use them - your newer data, which you often access aB lot as it is what you are currently working on, is typically beingC written to increasingly high LBNs as your disk fills up, and so the F transfer rate really is dropping so it doesn't just seem like it takesE longer to save or load the same amount of data - it often really does % take longer, possibly twice as long.)I  F CDs, on the other hand, go from inside to out. The data is also storedC at a fixed density. Normal CD players (e.g. an audio CD player) are C constant linear velocity so that the data flows at a constant rate,AF although some, or perhaps most by now, of the newer computer CD drivesD (and even some audio ones, I think - particularly the ones that willE play MP3s which are just recored onto data CDs rather than audio CDs) F use constant angular velocity (except, perhaps, when playing an actualF audio CD) so they read from the outer edge faster than the inner edge.F I'm not sure if they also write at CAV, or if they use CLV for writingD but I'd guess that they also use CAV for that too. In such a case itE works the opposite of a hard drive - the higher LBNs transfer faster.2   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:02:53 -05000$ From: Mike Duffy <Duffy@process.com>G Subject: RE: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?sJ Message-ID: <63D30D6E10CFD11190A90000F805FE860492AFB4@lespaul.process.com>   > -----Original Message------ > From: Mike Duffy [mailto:duffy@process.com]Y( > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:16 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coms? > Subject: RE: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS - > on a CD-R? >  > > -----Original Message-----@ > > From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com [mailto:spamsink2001@yahoo.com]+ > > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:48 AM  > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComnG > > Subject: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?r > >  > > 
 > > Hello, > > H > > Is LBN 0 on Files-11 disks at the outer edge of the physical disk or; > > the inner edge? (Assuming revectoring hasn't occurred.)e > >  > < > Well, I hope I don't say anything inaccurate here, as it's! > all from memory, but here goes:  > @ > Files-11 treats a disk as an array of blocks, and the physicalB > block mapping is done at driver level.  I think it implies that < > the physical block corresponding to LBN 0 *could* vary, if  > the driver wanted it that way. > ? > That being said, I think most (all?) VMS drivers place it at e > the inner edge.t >   2 Sorry to answer my own post, but after posting my < stream-of-consciousness answer, I realized I had thoroughly C mixed CD and non-CD cases together.  I need to make clarifications   throughout.-  * Above I should have said "All CD drivers".  @ > But I have heard that in the old days, inner tracks were less > > reliable due to higher densities (the same number of bits on? > a track with a smaller circumference), and therefore everyoneQC > should place Important Stuff at the outside or middle.  I really   > don't know if that's true. >   2 I should have specified magnetic disks explicitly.  D > Pick up two partially-filled VMS CD's.  Look at the data side, andF > you can probably see a differently-sized unwritten area at the outer= > edges with the unaided eye.  (I just tried it to make sure,,E > and sure enough, data seem to start in the center and work outward,:. > unless I need glasses worse than I thought.) > G > > Where on the physical disk is LBN 0 located with other popular file  > > systems? > >  > 8 > I don't know about enough systems to answer this part. >    Well, that's still true.   > >eG > > Do increasing LBN's simply "quasi-spiral" across the disk? That is,t; > > are the lowest, say, five percent of the blocks all at i > about the same > > radius?  > >  > A > I believe LBN's start at the inside, go around once, then move  A > outward one track.  The general case has to deal with multiple n= > surfaces.  In that case I think that the same track on each-C > surface (the cylinder) is used before stepping to the next track.l >   C Multiple surfaces, of course, don't apply to CD's, but I should notsA have mixed that with the inward-out organization of the CD media.c  D > In reality, at each of these breaks, I believe there is an offset E > that allows the controller to catch up, heads stop vibrating, etc.  D > so that you don't miss part of the data and have to wait until it > > comes around again.  (The first block of track two is offset* > from the first track on block one, etc.) > F > > I am making CD-Rs containing save set files that are about 2000 toG > > 7000 blocks each. Does it matter much where I place the index file?t1 > > And if yes, where's the best place to put it?  > >  > H > It may matter, a little.  Under Files-11, you'll typically be looking H > up a file in a directory, then going to INDEXF.SYS to get the header, G > then to the file.  Since CD devices have slow seeks, you may be able -H > to affect performance.  I think you can reasonably expect the data to ? > go to low LBNs during creation since it's not an active user 0 > disk with  > extent cache entries, etc. > H > By default, the bulk of INDEXF.SYS is placed at the middle, minimizingF > the longest seek from it to any track.  In your application, you may> > be better off placing it at the beginning, assuming you use  > significantly:@ > less than the total space available.  If the file headers are  > closer to5. > the data, your average seek will be shorter. > E > If you read one saveset now and then or the disk is more than aboutmF > half full, it won't matter.  But if you step through the whole disk H > sequentially, you might be able to measure a difference.  It might be G > interesting to write one of each and see.  $ DIR/DATE [000000...]*.*  < > will have to read each header, so that may be a good test.; > If you try it, post the results, but only if I'm right ;)  >   F I should have said "about a quarter full", and "it won't help" instead of "it won't matter".m  G > Decent cache performance might negate most of the difference, if any.,* > I'll use that as my excuse if I'm wrong. > G > > I set /headers and /maximimum files to a little above the number ofeF > > files I am placing on the CD-R. Is there anything else I can do to< > > optimize the performance when reading the finished disk? > >  > > Thanks.c > >  > > Disclaimer: JMHO > > Alan E. Feldman  > >. >  > -Mike Duffy  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:53:38 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGG Subject: Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?u0 Message-ID: <00A1A740.DA8D2229@SendSpamHere.ORG>  w In article <01KRMIJJ10FS96VR7Q@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes: B >> However, for most of the history of disk drives, LBN 0 has beenB >> located on the outer track of the media.   I believe that CDROMB >> was the first disc/disk media to use the inner diameter for theF >> beginning of data, but would appreciate any corrections or updates. >aI >Right, that's the way it was with vinyl (16-1/3, 33-1/3, 45, 78).  When e1 >CDs came out, it took some getting used to.  :-)l > H >I think there were some records which had TWO spiral tracks; depending F >on where one put the needle, either one or the other would be played.  G I happen to have such an album.  It was released in 1994 and it has tworG tracks on side two of the second disk (it's a two disc recording).  De-iF pending on the track selected, there are two different endings to the E recording.  I've played each spiral only once and then the album was mF put away for safe keeping until last year when I took it to England toE have the members of the band that made the recording sign the sleeve.s  G There were other "fun" things one could do with the old vinyl recordingtH system.  I have one record that fades into a single "theme" on the innerG spiral where most automatic changers would pick up the arm.  If the arm E is left on the vinyl, the circular track at the center would continuer this note ad infinitum.l    F >Wow, does this sound painful!  These days, physical contact within a I >storage medium sounds really obsolete.  We're still a way away from the vE >real goal, though, formulated in Arthur C. Clarke's THE CITY AND THE00 >STARS: no machine may contain any moving parts.  F FYI, there was a company called ELP (and not related in any fashion toF the prog-rock group ELP) that made a turntable that would read a vinyl3 recording via a laser beam.  No physical contact.  2   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMo            e5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" p   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 04:01:50 GMTo From: danco@ns2.pebble.orgG Subject: Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?t1 Message-ID: <slrnb346qg.2v2.danco@ns2.pebble.org>c  ; In article <01KRMIJJ10FS96VR7Q@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>,  Phillip Helbig wrote:t  " > We're still a way away from the F > real goal, though, formulated in Arthur C. Clarke's THE CITY AND THE1 > STARS: no machine may contain any moving parts.i  1 Unless everything then operates at absolete zero,r1 movement of some sort will still be occuring, no?t   - Dan    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.049 ************************