0 INFO-VAX	Mon, 27 Jan 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 54      Contents: Re:  3100 SCSI connector RE:  3100 SCSI connector Re: 3100 SCSI connector 5 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS) 9 Re: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS) 9 RE: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS) : Re:  3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS)9 Re: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS) 9 Re: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS) " Re: Alpha workstation floppy drive Re: dynamic DNS  Re: EV7, ES47 question$ Re: Firesafes Was: How to Backup OSX$ Re: Firesafes Was: How to Backup OSX! Re: High hit rate VMS Web server? ! Re: High hit rate VMS Web server? ! Re: High hit rate VMS Web server? ! Re: High hit rate VMS Web server? K How to determine programmatically that a disk is mounted private (or group) P Re: How to determine programmatically that a disk is mounted private (or group) P Re: How to determine programmatically that a disk is mounted private (or group) > How to UCX mount an NFS volume with a non-standard port number/ Re: HP announces a new dawn for VMS on itanium! / Re: HP announces a new dawn for VMS on itanium!   LOCALE COMPILE access violation. Re: Marvel Performance RE: Marvel Performance" Re: Motif and SYS$QIO / AST in VMS" Re: Motif and SYS$QIO / AST in VMS" Re: Motif and SYS$QIO / AST in VMS@ MS: SECURE COMPUTING IS STILL A DECADE AWAY - article from ZDnet: Re: OT Battersea Power Station. Was Re: Marvel Performance( Privileges in a shareable image question, Re: Privileges in a shareable image question, Re: Privileges in a shareable image question* Questions about UNZIP from System Tools CD. Re: Questions about UNZIP from System Tools CD. Re: Questions about UNZIP from System Tools CD$ Re: Raid failed apparently good disk$ Re: Raid failed apparently good disk TCP/IP Sockets vs VMS QIO's  Re: VAX network monitor...
 Re: VMS Jokes  Re: VMS License Transfers? Re: VMS License Transfers?> RE: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?> Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?> RE: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:00:13 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> ! Subject: Re:  3100 SCSI connector ; Message-ID: <01KRQF9SJ54O9GV63L@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   C > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/emea/presalessupport/SCSICableList.html   H Is it possible to find this in a finite time from http://www.hp.com/ if E you don't know it exists (but do, say, want information on available  
 SCSI cables)?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:18:07 -0500 ! From: VAXVMS <bounce@notmail.com> ! Subject: RE:  3100 SCSI connector K Message-ID: <BA52530E3149734A9BAABDBBFA808E4903027BC3@rlghncst964.usps.gov>    Philip,    ROTFL.  6 I don't know how well one can find *anything* from the main HP page.     = I'll be charitable and state that their search engine leaves   much to be desired.   7 I had to do a great deal of research when we took three = AlphaServer 4100s, two RAID configurations of different sorts ; and tape backup solutions from many cabinets and remounted  $ them all into two H9A15-MC cabinets.  @ I'm almost compulsive about saving technical links and if I find% documentation on-line, I download it.   C > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/emea/presalessupport/SCSICableList.html   G Is it possible to find this in a finite time from http://www.hp.com/ if D you don't know it exists (but do, say, want information on available
 SCSI cables)?    ========================  William W. Webb / DSSC/RLM, USPS OpenVMS Support Services& 4924 Green Road Raleigh, NC 27616-2800: 919.874.3043 <FirstInitialDotLastNameAtEmailDotUSPSDotGov>   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:53:35 +0000 + From: John Laird <john@laird-towers.org.uk>   Subject: Re: 3100 SCSI connector8 Message-ID: <6rna3v0udvf41jjviui022un0vd88higuk@4ax.com>  8 On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:00:13 +0100 (MET), Phillip Helbig+ <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote:   D >> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/emea/presalessupport/SCSICableList.html > I >Is it possible to find this in a finite time from http://www.hp.com/ if  F >you don't know it exists (but do, say, want information on available  >SCSI cables)?  L Finite ? :-)  Google hits it real quick if you happen to know a part number,H e.g. "BC09J site:hp.com" gets you there in a hurry.  If you have loweredL yourself to using IE for web browsing, the Google toolbar is very useful andH has a "search site" button which I use probably as often as a site's own& search engine.  (And often with more s  H I note that the "strange" 3100 connector actually featured on more boxesC than I would have guessed.  The rest of the world stuck with 50-pin J Centronics for narrow SCSI (as did later MV3100s and the 4000s), while theL eventual 68-pin connector for Wide SCSI turned out to be a different format!     	John    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:39:11 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> > Subject: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS); Message-ID: <01KRQ88PI6LE8WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   H > The VAXstation 4000 VLC has a standard 50-pin centronics connector on G > the back of it.  It's not like the oddball, non-standard SCSI pinout, H > 68-pin male connectors on the back of the VAXstation 3100s.  It'll be F > a no-brainer to find a way to connect an external SCSI device to it.  @ Is it possible to connect a standard SCSI device to the strange  VAXstation connector?    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 12:05:48 +0100' From: huber@mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber) B Subject: Re: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS)+ Message-ID: <UKRrOoxtUkZz@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   w In article <01KRQ88PI6LE8WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes: I >> The VAXstation 4000 VLC has a standard 50-pin centronics connector on  H >> the back of it.  It's not like the oddball, non-standard SCSI pinout,I >> 68-pin male connectors on the back of the VAXstation 3100s.  It'll be  G >> a no-brainer to find a way to connect an external SCSI device to it.  > B > Is it possible to connect a standard SCSI device to the strange  > VAXstation connector?   M Usually the 3100 series SCSI controllers are SCSI-1 , single ended, narrow (8 > bit), almost all disks of this standard can be used on a 3100.E The reason for the "strange" connector: it predates all SCSI standard  connectors. G You just need an adapter-cable to the desired connector (Centronics 50,  Highdensity 50, DB 50).     --  N Joseph "Sepp" Huber   mailto:joseph.huber@web.de   http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:45:18 +0100 C From: Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann <vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de> B Subject: RE: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS)> Message-ID: <00A1A992.CACC3753.7@CHCLU.CHEMIE.UNI-KONSTANZ.DE>  I >> The VAXstation 4000 VLC has a standard 50-pin centronics connector on  H >> the back of it.  It's not like the oddball, non-standard SCSI pinout,I >> 68-pin male connectors on the back of the VAXstation 3100s.  It'll be  G >> a no-brainer to find a way to connect an external SCSI device to it.   A >Is it possible to connect a standard SCSI device to the strange   >VAXstation connector?   definitely yes!    eberhard   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:52:53 -0500 ! From: VAXVMS <bounce@notmail.com> C Subject: Re:  3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS) K Message-ID: <BA52530E3149734A9BAABDBBFA808E4903027BC2@rlghncst964.usps.gov>   E The EMEA folks continue to defy overwhelming odds and somehow manage  C to keep a good bit of useful information available to the world at   large.  ) Here's a neat little list of SCSI cables.   A http://h18000.www1.hp.com/emea/presalessupport/SCSICableList.html   B The page also has links to other SCSI pages that will undoubtedly " be of interest to the SCSI-minded.   HTH    WWWebb  G > The VAXstation 4000 VLC has a standard 50-pin centronics connector on G > the back of it.  It's not like the oddball, non-standard SCSI pinout, G > 68-pin male connectors on the back of the VAXstation 3100s.  It'll be F > a no-brainer to find a way to connect an external SCSI device to it.  A >>Is it possible to connect a standard SCSI device to the strange  >>VAXstation connector?    ========================  William W. Webb / DSSC/RLM, USPS OpenVMS Support Services& 4924 Green Road Raleigh, NC 27616-2800: 919.874.3043 <FirstInitialDotLastNameAtEmailDotUSPSDotGov>   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:25:45 -0500 ! From: Jim Agnew <jpagnew@vcu.edu> B Subject: Re: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS)' Message-ID: <3E354F79.760DE56A@vcu.edu>   F You'll need a Black Box part# FA485, it will mate a regular centronics cable to theH vaxstation.  I keep this in my Sharp Wizard...  I've had to get it often	 enough!!!    ;-D  Happy fiddling..    Jim    Phillip Helbig wrote:  > I > > The VAXstation 4000 VLC has a standard 50-pin centronics connector on I > > the back of it.  It's not like the oddball, non-standard SCSI pinout, I > > 68-pin male connectors on the back of the VAXstation 3100s.  It'll be H > > a no-brainer to find a way to connect an external SCSI device to it. > A > Is it possible to connect a standard SCSI device to the strange  > VAXstation connector?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:17:22 -0500 ( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>B Subject: Re: 3100 SCSI connector (was: Re: Network install of VMS), Message-ID: <3E3569A2.8060407@tsoft-inc.com>  
 VAXVMS wrote:   G > The EMEA folks continue to defy overwhelming odds and somehow manage  E > to keep a good bit of useful information available to the world at   > large. > + > Here's a neat little list of SCSI cables.  > C > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/emea/presalessupport/SCSICableList.html  > D > The page also has links to other SCSI pages that will undoubtedly $ > be of interest to the SCSI-minded.  L If anyone is in need of the old style cables, contact me. I have some layingJ around, will never have any use for them, and dislike the dumpster option.     Dave   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:12:42 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> + Subject: Re: Alpha workstation floppy drive ; Message-ID: <01KRQ9ENWM368WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>    > $init/dens=hd dva0 temp * > %NONAME-F-NOMSG, message number 0075A004? > (appears to be some sort of unexpected initialization error?)   = What happens if you just use INITIALIZE without the /density?   ; Have you tried floppies which are otherwise known to be OK?    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:47:07 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>  Subject: Re: dynamic DNS; Message-ID: <01KRQ6ERRO8I8WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   G > Sorry, my mistake. I did not read the mesage carefully and thought he H > meant dynamic DNS sofware, AKA Bind Server. This is in TCP/IP services > as you will know.   I Right, the term "dynamic DNS" has two quite distinct meanings.  One is a  E DNS service for rapidly-changing IP addresses, e.g. for most dial-up  G connections; the other refers to dynamically changing the address of a  @ "cluster alias" based on load etc (requires TCPIP 5.3, I think).   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:29:51 -0000 * From: "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> Subject: Re: EV7, ES47 question 5 Message-ID: <b131nj$um370$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>   . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message3 news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOELCGHAA.tom@kednos.com...  >  >  > >-----Original Message----- . > >From: Michael Unger [mailto:unger@decus.de]) > >Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:09 AM  > >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com" > >Subject: Re: EV7, ES47 question > >  > > 2 > >"Paul Repacholi" <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote: > > 
 > >> [...] > >>F > >> What can you put in the AGP slot with VMS? (perhaps not today...) > > I > >There has been an announcement of the "ATI Radeon 7500 AGP Controller" I > >for AlphaServer systems and the installation guide is available at the F > >Q/HP web site. It explicitely describes the configuration for Tru64 > >and VMS.  > I > VMS is not mentioned as supported for the 7500, only the VX1, either in  > PCI or AGP form factor.  >    But...L The PDF installation guide for the "ATI Radeon 7500 AGP Controller" provides. a whole chapter on installation under OpenVMS. You need V7.3-1 plus eco's. C Clearly the lack of mention of OpenVMS in the web page is either an  oversight or obfustication..!      -- John Travell  VMS crashdump expertise for hire http://www.travell.uk.net/         --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 01:27:50 -0500 ' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - Subject: Re: Firesafes Was: How to Backup OSX < Message-ID: <howard-5D5596.01275027012003@enews.newsguy.com>  - In article <87wukswku3.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, .  Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote:   > Sorry, wrong link, use0 > http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/colless/StromloFire/   What HAPPENED??    --  4 Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:35:21 GMT - From: bdc@world.std.com (Brian 'Jarai' Chase) - Subject: Re: Firesafes Was: How to Backup OSX & Message-ID: <H9Dsqx.52H@world.std.com>  < In article <howard-5D5596.01275027012003@enews.newsguy.com>,) Howard S Shubs  <howard@shubs.net> wrote: / > In article <87wukswku3.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, 0 >  Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote:   > > Sorry, wrong link, use2 > > http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/colless/StromloFire/ >  > What HAPPENED??    Aliens.    -brian.  --  F --- Brian Chase | bdc@world.std.com | http://world.std.com/~bdc/ -----5                    Do not fold, mutilate, or spindle.    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 08:13:51 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) * Subject: Re: High hit rate VMS Web server?3 Message-ID: <yPXw2$aATBot@eisner.encompasserve.org>   m In article <20030125000944.19677.qmail@gacracker.org>, Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:  > K > I immediately thought of the old Northern Light search engine. They still L > have COMPAQ banners, and mention of VMS on the site, but Netcraft says theJ > site is Solaris - so VMS must be doing the grunt work in the background.> > (Or they're being clever and giving misleading information). >   D    I think its been said befrore that they do in fact use Solaris in#    front and VMS in the background.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 07:51:55 -0800 , From: "James Gessling" <jgessling@yahoo.com>* Subject: Re: High hit rate VMS Web server?4 Message-ID: <b13kis$us3na$1@ID-46415.news.dfncis.de>  G "Carlc Internet Services" <cc@nospamming-to-carlc.com> wrote in message + news:MckY9.123$dr3.65810@news.uswest.net...  > 0 > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in messageD > news:1%iY9.96274$ej1.26146@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...G > > Does anyone know of any currently VMS-hosted web servers that has a I > > page hit rate of between 1-2 million pages per day that I can cite as - > > references (either officially or ad hoc)?  > % > Wasn't Etrade a heavy with OpenVMS?  > I So I've heard.  Although the external web access is not VMS.  Internally, 	 they have F OpenVMS systems with CSWS web servers with a custom module loaded thatH serves up XML data representing customers' account activity.  A response averagesD about 4-5k bytes.  A typical node serves up 70k requests per day.  6 processor GS140.  J The XML data is formatted and displayed back to the customer's brower by a set of (dozens of) Linux boxes.    At least that's what I've heard.   Jim    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:58:51 +0100 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>* Subject: Re: High hit rate VMS Web server?) Message-ID: <3E35735B.8000008@vajhoej.dk>    James Gessling wrote: I > "Carlc Internet Services" <cc@nospamming-to-carlc.com> wrote in message - > news:MckY9.123$dr3.65810@news.uswest.net... % >>Wasn't Etrade a heavy with OpenVMS?  > K > So I've heard.  Although the external web access is not VMS.  Internally,  > they have H > OpenVMS systems with CSWS web servers with a custom module loaded thatJ > serves up XML data representing customers' account activity.  A response
 > averagesF > about 4-5k bytes.  A typical node serves up 70k requests per day.  6 > processor GS140.     70000/day = 1/second  ' On a 6 CPU GS140 - that is heavy stuff.   4 (yes - I am aware of that the systems must have been) dimensioned not for average but for peak)    Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:01:04 +0100 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>* Subject: Re: High hit rate VMS Web server?' Message-ID: <3E3573E0.60803@vajhoej.dk>    JF Mezei wrote: N > One can have a shareable image that is loaded into the web server's process.4 > With OSU's threads, this could be very efficicent.   I think that is what MST's do !   4 >                                 Is this scalable ?  6 Yes. Assuming the MST's run independent of each other.  : >                                                 (eg: oneM > process doing all of the work, in a multi-cpu environment, this wouldn't be  > very efficient, right ?)  9 With kernel threads enabled that should not be necesarry.    Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:42:14 -0500 & From: David M Smith <dsmit115@csc.com>T Subject: How to determine programmatically that a disk is mounted private (or group)8 Message-ID: <h1oa3vgvmo2fqt5jhqgf6o4dtf6lb4hft9@4ax.com>  K I've done some Googol searches on the subject, but can't find anything. The L question is: how can you determine, programmatically, that a disk is mountedO privately or group-wide, rather than /SYSTEM. SHOW DEVICE /FULL knows how to do N it, but I can't see anything in $GETDVI or the I/O User's Guide which explains what it is looking at.  F Here is what I see with SHOW DEVICE /FULL on a privately mounted disk:   $ sho dev dka113 /full  O Disk $1$DKA113: (HSJ002), device type RZ28, is online, allocated, deallocate on M     dismount, mounted, file-oriented device, shareable, available to cluster,      error logging is enabled. 	         . 	         . 	         . N     Mount status             Process   Cache name        "_$1$DUA111:XQPCACHE"  4 How does it determine "Process" as the mount status?I ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I David M. Smith 302.391.8533                       dsmit115 at csc dot com I Computer Sciences Corporation     (Opinions are those of the writer only) I -------------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:33:05 -0500 ' From: Chris Olive <nospam@raytheon.com> Y Subject: Re: How to determine programmatically that a disk is mounted private (or group)  > Message-ID: <p4eZ9.366$Z74.1327@dfw-service2.ext.raytheon.com>   David M Smith wrote:M > I've done some Googol searches on the subject, but can't find anything. The N > question is: how can you determine, programmatically, that a disk is mountedQ > privately or group-wide, rather than /SYSTEM. SHOW DEVICE /FULL knows how to do P > it, but I can't see anything in $GETDVI or the I/O User's Guide which explains > what it is looking at. > H > Here is what I see with SHOW DEVICE /FULL on a privately mounted disk: >  > $ sho dev dka113 /full > Q > Disk $1$DKA113: (HSJ002), device type RZ28, is online, allocated, deallocate on O >     dismount, mounted, file-oriented device, shareable, available to cluster,  >     error logging is enabled.  >         .  >         .  >         . P >     Mount status             Process   Cache name        "_$1$DUA111:XQPCACHE" > 6 > How does it determine "Process" as the mount status?  B  From a 1994 post concerning this sort of thing, which I think is  probably the answer:    >>Original question: C  >>I'm running VMS v5.4-2, and am wondering how to go about getting C  >>the mount status of a disk that's mounted on another node in the A  >>VAXcluster, but not on the current node.  SHOW DEVICE displays *  >>this information, but SYS$GETDVI won't.    >Answer from Nick de Smith:  >B  >...the information is only in the lock value block of the deviceE  >locks. All the device locks for a particular device are checked for A  >the MNT bit in the value block. This total is used as the mount   >count displayed by SHOW DEV.  >E  >Fun stuff to do, though. I refer you to [.CLIUTL.LIS]SHODEVCLU.LIS, 7  >which is the code that gathers this sort of ephemera.   >  >Nick  nick@nick01.demon.co.uk '  >      European DECUS OpenVMS Chairman 2  >      Note: my NCDLAB address is no longer valid   HTH, Chris  -----  Chris Olive  Systems Consultant' Raytheon Technical Services Corporation  Indianapolis, IN  * email: olivec AT indy DOT raytheon DOT com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:07:10 -0500 ! From: Jim Agnew <jpagnew@vcu.edu> Y Subject: Re: How to determine programmatically that a disk is mounted private (or group)  ' Message-ID: <3E35673E.16D192DB@vcu.edu>   F get the output to a file, search it, and use the $status global symbolF as your indicator whether it found "Mount status             Process   Cache name " in that file...  . would that work well enough for your purposes?   jim      David M Smith wrote: > M > I've done some Googol searches on the subject, but can't find anything. The N > question is: how can you determine, programmatically, that a disk is mountedQ > privately or group-wide, rather than /SYSTEM. SHOW DEVICE /FULL knows how to do P > it, but I can't see anything in $GETDVI or the I/O User's Guide which explains > what it is looking at. > H > Here is what I see with SHOW DEVICE /FULL on a privately mounted disk: >  > $ sho dev dka113 /full > Q > Disk $1$DKA113: (HSJ002), device type RZ28, is online, allocated, deallocate on O >     dismount, mounted, file-oriented device, shareable, available to cluster,  >     error logging is enabled.  >         .  >         .  >         . P >     Mount status             Process   Cache name        "_$1$DUA111:XQPCACHE" > 6 > How does it determine "Process" as the mount status?K > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- K > David M. Smith 302.391.8533                       dsmit115 at csc dot com K > Computer Sciences Corporation     (Opinions are those of the writer only) K > -------------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 09:25:32 -0800$ From: rcbryan@hotmail.com (RC Bryan)G Subject: How to UCX mount an NFS volume with a non-standard port number = Message-ID: <fbcf38dc.0301270925.1a3bf514@posting.google.com>   C We have a NFS volume that is being served from a Unix system with a F non-standard IP port number.  The system administrator person tells meC that he can mount it on Unix machines with a -port type argument to A the mount command.  I don't see any /port in the TCPIP help mount  documentation.  @ We are using UCX V4.2 and TCPIP V5.3 (and a bunch of versions in	 between.)    Thanks, 	 /RC Bryan    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:32:15 -0800  From: "AG" <ang@xtra.co.nz> 8 Subject: Re: HP announces a new dawn for VMS on itanium!5 Message-ID: <re5Z9.49675$F63.1062938@news.xtra.co.nz>   1 "Michael Unger" <unger@decus.de> wrote in message $ news:00A1A815.F74BBC10.5@decus.de...  G >Note that the OpenVMS time display and manipulation routines allow for G > only 4 digits in the 'YEAR' field.  We expect this to be corrected in < > a future release of OpenVMS sometime prior to 31-DEC-9999.    Oh no, not again - the Y10K bug?   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 08:17:52 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 8 Subject: Re: HP announces a new dawn for VMS on itanium!3 Message-ID: <W76Rht3s5Gh9@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Q In article <00A1A815.F74BBC10.5@decus.de>, Michael Unger <unger@decus.de> writes:    > H > Note that the OpenVMS time display and manipulation routines allow forG > only 4 digits in the 'YEAR' field.  We expect this to be corrected in < > a future release of OpenVMS sometime prior to 31-DEC-9999. > 
 > [end quote]  > G > No, I don't remember the source of this one, but it must have been an ! > "official" document from DEC/Q.   H    It's part of a well known SPR that you can probably find if you start    from the FAQ.   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 01:10:33 -0800' From: avs@nikom.tagil.ru (Andrey Savin) ) Subject: LOCALE COMPILE access violation. = Message-ID: <96faaf36.0301270110.6979760a@posting.google.com>    I'm take sample script from ^ http://www.tru64unix.compaq.com/docs/base_doc/DOCUMENTATION/HTML/AA-Q0R4C-TE_html/i18nCH7.html type command $locale compile de_DE_ISO8859-1 ; %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual  address=000000000000& 0000, PC=FFFFFFFF8057B528, PS=0000001B  2   Improperly handled condition, image exit forced.1     Signal arguments:   Number = 0000000000000005 1                         Name   = 000000000000000C 1                                  0000000000000000 1                                  0000000000000000 1                                  FFFFFFFF8057B528 1                                  000000000000001B        Register dump:9     R0  = 00000000000C60D8  R1  = 000000007BEED1A0  R2  =  000000007BEA7E589     R3  = 000000000008069C  R4  = 0000000000080660  R5  =  00000000000806A09     R6  = 0000000000000000  R7  = 00000000000C60D9  R8  =  00000000000000009     R9  = 00000000000C60D8  R10 = 000000007FFAD238  R11 =  000000007FFCE3E09     R12 = 0000000000000000  R13 = 000000007B01C330  R14 =  FFFFFFFF80F7A9409     R15 = 000000007B01B990  R16 = 00000000000C60D9  R17 =  00000000000000009     R18 = 000000007AEE7A68  R19 = 000000000000D530  R20 =  00000000000000019     R21 = 000000000000FFFF  R22 = 00000000000C60D8  R23 =  00000000000000019     R24 = 0000000100000000  R25 = 0000000000000001  R26 =  FFFFFFFF8057AA409     R27 = 000000007BEA7E58  R28 = 00000000000C69A0  R29 =  000000007AEE79F09     SP  = 000000007AEE79F0  PC  = FFFFFFFF8057B528  PS  =  300000000000001B   It's wwork ?	 VMS 7.2-1    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:41:22 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>  Subject: Re: Marvel Performance ; Message-ID: <01KRQ8CGP3F68WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>    > > Picture: Winged pig flying >  > 6 > With the words 'VMS Marketing" tattooed on the side. > A > Actually mentioning the words 'VMS' and 'marketing' in the same  > sentence is a non sequitur.   F Well, "when pigs fly" doesn't have to be explicitly mentioned in this 
 case.  :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:44:35 -0800 $ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com> Subject: RE: Marvel Performance 0 Message-ID: <01C2C5F1.19FF57F0@sulfer.icius.com>   Give the man a cigar.    -----Original Message-----2 From: Steve Spires [mailto:Steve.Spires@torex.com]& Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:00 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  Subject: RE: Marvel Performance     F My best guess is a reference to a Pink Floyd album, where a flying pig* was pictured over battersea power station.   Steve S    -----Original Message-----4 From: Paul Repacholi [mailto:prep@prep.synonet.com]  Sent: 25 January 2003 18:13  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  Subject: Re: Marvel Performance     & Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com> writes:  : > Picture: Winged pig flying over Battersea power station.  A I am sure there is some significance in the `Battersea' part, but @ entropy seems to have won :( Could you fill in the missing part?   tnx  --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:59:23 +0100 9 From: "Robert TRAWINSKI" <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> + Subject: Re: Motif and SYS$QIO / AST in VMS . Message-ID: <b12s6f$1hl$1@bozon.softax.com.pl>  K Uzytkownik "Stuart Norris" <stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au> napisal w wiadomosci 7 news:51262235.0301242012.660414d6@posting.google.com...  > Dear Readers,  > H > I am trying to write a program using OpenVMS (7.3-1) and Motif (1.2-6)= > that does async serial communications.  I am having trouble H > understanding the interaction between the Motif event loop and ASTs in > VMS. > H > I understand programming in X and Motif and QIO and AST programming on9 > VMS but I just do not understand the combining of them.  > C > For my test program I have a Motif program that just has a single H > button that sends a 'at' command to a modem and expects the 'ok' back.G >  I have chosen a modem for the little test program as I am certain of  > the communications.  > C > Once the user pushes the motif button in the call back I issues a G > SYS$QIO with wrtvblk to the channel with an AST for completion of the F > write.  In the completion of the write I issues another SYS$QIO withE > readvlbk to the channel with an AST for completion of the read.  In G > the completion AST I change the value of a label in the Motif to show E > that the value has been read back.  But the label never updates.  I : > can see in the debugger that the label is being changed. > G > So how should I combine the communications and the Xevent loop.  With F > my real device the times are not a quick as talking to a modem and IG > want the Xevent loop to continue processing Xevents and I do not want C > the CPU to goto 100% waiting in the Xevent.  Do I need to fake an 5 > Xevent in the AST to tell Motif to update the label  > D > Are there any examples that I should review for interaction of AST > programming and Motif on VMS.  > - > I hope I have explained my problem clearly.  >  > 	 > Thanks.  >  >  > Stuart      L http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/73final/5639/5639motifpro_005.html#index_x _193  J In my work I often mix AST with Xlib/Xt/Xm, so if you want you can send me part of your  code.    Robert   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:00:53 +0100 9 From: "Robert TRAWINSKI" <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> + Subject: Re: Motif and SYS$QIO / AST in VMS . Message-ID: <b12s99$1le$1@bozon.softax.com.pl>  K Uzytkownik "Stuart Norris" <stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au> napisal w wiadomosci 7 news:51262235.0301242012.660414d6@posting.google.com...  > Dear Readers,  > H > I am trying to write a program using OpenVMS (7.3-1) and Motif (1.2-6)= > that does async serial communications.  I am having trouble H > understanding the interaction between the Motif event loop and ASTs in > VMS. > H > I understand programming in X and Motif and QIO and AST programming on9 > VMS but I just do not understand the combining of them.  > C > For my test program I have a Motif program that just has a single H > button that sends a 'at' command to a modem and expects the 'ok' back.G >  I have chosen a modem for the little test program as I am certain of  > the communications.  > C > Once the user pushes the motif button in the call back I issues a G > SYS$QIO with wrtvblk to the channel with an AST for completion of the F > write.  In the completion of the write I issues another SYS$QIO withE > readvlbk to the channel with an AST for completion of the read.  In G > the completion AST I change the value of a label in the Motif to show E > that the value has been read back.  But the label never updates.  I : > can see in the debugger that the label is being changed. > G > So how should I combine the communications and the Xevent loop.  WithnF > my real device the times are not a quick as talking to a modem and IG > want the Xevent loop to continue processing Xevents and I do not want C > the CPU to goto 100% waiting in the Xevent.  Do I need to fake an 5 > Xevent in the AST to tell Motif to update the label  >ID > Are there any examples that I should review for interaction of AST > programming and Motif on VMS.  >e- > I hope I have explained my problem clearly.  >V > 	 > Thanks.  >k >t > Stuart        L http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/73final/5639/5639motifpro_005.html#index_x _193    J In my work I often mix AST with Xlib/Xt/Xm, so if you want you can send me part of your  code.r   Robert   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 08:23:07 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)(+ Subject: Re: Motif and SYS$QIO / AST in VMSa3 Message-ID: <FbN+bPOKhfpF@eisner.encompasserve.org>o  n In article <b0url5$mli$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, JONESD@er6.eng.ohio-state.edu (David Jones) writes: > O > I seem to recall that 1 gotcha with the routine is that the event flag has tonG > be in the same cluster (0) that xlib is using for its internal flags. N > Using lib$get_ef to allocate an event flag returns one from the wrong range.  F    lib$get_ef assumes all local event flags are in use.  There's a docH    somewhere that says which one RMS uses, etc.  You can lib$free_ef any#    which aren't documented as used.v   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:07:23 GMTi# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>vI Subject: MS: SECURE COMPUTING IS STILL A DECADE AWAY - article from ZDnetlI Message-ID: <LWbZ9.130256$ej1.33689@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>N  + MS: SECURE COMPUTING IS STILL A DECADE AWAYe By David Coursey  :     DAVID COURSEY: One year ago, Bill Gates challenged his8     Microsoft troops to make the company's products more<     trustworthy. What's been accomplished? A bit. What still     needs to be done? A lot.       Read More:=     http://cl.com.com/Click?q=32-GxoIIrQq83zGvRox3fUsBkAY-NuC     % I guess Bill hasn't heard of OpenVMS.D   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:08:42 -0500-( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>C Subject: Re: OT Battersea Power Station. Was Re: Marvel Performance-, Message-ID: <3E35679A.8050401@tsoft-inc.com>   VAXman- wrote:  W > In article <B5rPB4Q7ocjo@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes:s >  >>{...snip...} >>- >>>http://www.tmesis.com/where_is_the_pig.jpgi >>>o
 >>A nice pic.. >> > N > Took that from the train with the wide angle.  Before we take off this time,M > I hope to have a polarizing filter which will fit that large lens and avoid0A > things like the reflection of the lights in the train's window.o >  >  > G >>An interesting use of another former power station is the Tate Modern G >>art gallery in London. I am told that the sheer size and space of ther: >>place is something you need to experience to appreciate. >>+ >>http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/default.htmd >> > M > Last time the Tate was mentioned here, I was labelled right-wing extremist.R    + So?  Gracefully accept the compliment.  :-)b   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:51:24 -0400-0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>1 Subject: Privileges in a shareable image questionn/ Message-ID: <3E35011C.B297AB8B@vl.videotron.ca>/    Consider the following scenario:   user's process has SYSPRVd  . User calls MAIL, mail somehow disables SYSPRV.9 MAIL then calls my shareable image installed with SYSPRV.n  N 1- does my shareable image automatically, always gets sysprv activated as soon! as control passes to my routine ?9  L 2- what is the method for my routine to find out whether the user has SYSPRV9 enabled prior to involking MAIL ? Will it be SYS$GETJPI ?   K 3- If my routine is involked 10 times. On the 3rd time, it disables SYSPRV. E When called the 4th time, will SYSPRV automatically get re-instated ?0  L The goal: if the user had sysprv before involing mail, I want to honour thisJ if he tries to include files. But if not, I want to disable sysprv for all5 activities except the one where the routine needs it.s   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:19:32 GMTn From: danco@ns2.pebble.org5 Subject: Re: Privileges in a shareable image questioni0 Message-ID: <slrnb3au8n.mo.danco@ns2.pebble.org>  ? In article <3E35011C.B297AB8B@vl.videotron.ca>, JF Mezei wrote:n  0 > User calls MAIL, mail somehow disables SYSPRV.; > MAIL then calls my shareable image installed with SYSPRV.   H JF, only main images can be installed with privileges.  Oh sure, you canG use the qualifiers when installing shareable images, but they will havetE no effect.  Shareable images can be installed protected (implementingtF user system services which can in turn grant themselves privileges and3 do other cool stuff) or with subsystem identifiers.     N > 2- what is the method for my routine to find out whether the user has SYSPRV; > enabled prior to involking MAIL ? Will it be SYS$GETJPI ?0  J Yes.  BTW, invoking MAIL meaning 1) the MAIL main image (in a subprocess?)K or 2) calling the mail callable routines?  Those are two different animals.I    M > 3- If my routine is involked 10 times. On the 3rd time, it disables SYSPRV.5G > When called the 4th time, will SYSPRV automatically get re-instated ?a   Nope.t   - DanS   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:22:57 -0500I< From: "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp>5 Subject: Re: Privileges in a shareable image questiona0 Message-ID: <6OeZ9.506$JM7.458@news.cpqcorp.net>   JF Mezei wrote:-#  > Consider the following scenario:0  >  > user's process has SYSPRV  >1  > User calls MAIL, mail somehow disables SYSPRV.t<  > MAIL then calls my shareable image installed with SYSPRV.  < Please see the "Sharable Image Cookbook" by Stephen Hoffman.   It is available on the web at:  ? http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/swdev/ovms-shexe-cook.html0  H If you did not create a user written system service, installing a shared# image with privileges does nothing.r  I  > 1- does my shareable image automatically, always gets sysprv activated.,  > as soon as control passes to my routine ?   No.t  H  > 2- what is the method for my routine to find out whether the user hasC  > SYSPRV enabled prior to involking MAIL ? Will it be SYS$GETJPI ?   > If MAIL turned off the privilege, it may not be possible.  TheH SYS$GETJPI can return the current privileges, the authorized privileges, and any image privileges.t  B It can not know if the user was authorized to have SYSPRV on, but 3 deliberately had SYSPRV off prior to entering MAIL.   F  > 3- If my routine is involked 10 times. On the 3rd time, it disablesC  > SYSPRV.  When called the 4th time, will SYSPRV automatically get-  > re-instated ?   No.   C  > The goal: if the user had sysprv before involing mail, I want toeB  > honour this if he tries to include files. But if not, I want toE  > disable sysprv for all activities except the one where the routineO  > needs it.  D You would need to use the callable MAIL routines from your own main J program in order to verify what privileges that the user started out with.   -Johni! malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hpe Personal Opinion Onlyl   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:34:09 +0100 (MET) & From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>3 Subject: Questions about UNZIP from System Tools CD 6 Message-ID: <200301271534.QAA11045@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  C I would like to install UNZIP from the System Tools. So I have somec
 questions:C Unlike TAR and ZIP there is no AXP_EXE. So I have to build the EXE.gF There two OBJ files UNZIP and UNZIP_CLI. Do I need both or only one of them? If only one, which one?fA Also I did see, that there a manuals in the nroff format. Are anyfC manual in a PC or OpenVMS printable format within the internet and/i or the FREEWARE CD?l# TIA and best regards Rudolf Wingerta   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:48:44 +0100 (MET)e9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>.7 Subject: Re: Questions about UNZIP from System Tools CDn; Message-ID: <01KRQIXPUZPM9GV63L@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   H > There two OBJ files UNZIP and UNZIP_CLI. Do I need both or only one of > them? If only one, which one?s  G UNZIP_CLI has a VMS-style command line interface (ZIP/LEVEL=9/VERBOSE) c5 in addition to the "normal" unix-style one (zip -9v).   1 ZIP/VMS is also nice (preserves file attributes).=  G Why not install both ZIP and UNZIP (two separate things, not like gzip e2 which I think is one application which does both).  C > Also I did see, that there a manuals in the nroff format. Are any-E > manual in a PC or OpenVMS printable format within the internet and/g > or the FREEWARE CD?    $  zip/help0  Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP% Type 'zip "-L"' for software license..> Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999). Usage: zip=="$disk:[dir]zip.exe"< zip zipfile[.zip] [list] [/EXCL=(xlist)] /options /modifiersK   The default action is to add or replace zipfile entries from list, exceptpI   those in xlist. The include file list may contain the special name - to0E   compress standard input.  If both zipfile and list are omitted, zipt   compresses stdin to stdout.o#   Type zip -h for Unix style flags.m   Major options include:H     /FRESHEN, /UPDATE, /DELETE, /[NO]MOVE, /COMMENTS[={ZIP_FILE|FILES}],@     /LATEST, /TEST, /ADJUST_OFFSETS, /FIX_ARCHIVE[=FULL], /UNSFX   Modifiers include:G     /EXCLUDE=(file list), /INCLUDE=(file list), /SINCE="creation time",-@     /QUIET, /VERBOSE[=MORE], /[NO]RECURSE, /[NO]DIRNAMES, /JUNK,H     /[NO]KEEP_VERSION, /[NO]VMS, /[NO]PKZIP, /TRANSLATE_EOL[={LF|CRLF}],L     /[NO]EXTRA_FIELDS /LEVEL=[0-9], /TEMP_PATH=directory, /BATCH[=list file]   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 17:00:23 +0100' From: huber@mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)l7 Subject: Re: Questions about UNZIP from System Tools CD + Message-ID: <bEcvEFaplaQr@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   _ In article <200301271534.QAA11045@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>, Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de> writes:k > Hello, > E > I would like to install UNZIP from the System Tools. So I have some  > questions:E > Unlike TAR and ZIP there is no AXP_EXE. So I have to build the EXE. H > There two OBJ files UNZIP and UNZIP_CLI. Do I need both or only one of > them? If only one, which one?-I Unzip_cli is for Your VMS convenience: it supports DCL-style command-lineEJ options in addition to the standard unixy ones in unzip. Just Your choice.  C > Also I did see, that there a manuals in the nroff format. Are any E > manual in a PC or OpenVMS printable format within the internet and/  > or the FREEWARE CD?t% > TIA and best regards Rudolf Wingert   G If You get it from the archive zip site, there is a VMS help included. uK ( also on my site: http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/vmssig/zip-unzip/unzip.zip ).-  - --  N Joseph "Sepp" Huber   mailto:joseph.huber@web.de   http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 04:33:17 -0800! From: soterro@yahoo.com (Soterro)r- Subject: Re: Raid failed apparently good disk < Message-ID: <d5440555.0301270433.92f959d@posting.google.com>  F Well, I'm quite sure I have the latest firmware on the machine itself,D and also on the KZESC. I'm at work now so I can't give the versions,B but I updated everything when I got the machine like 2 months ago.  K > a copy of its data, pull it and get it good and cold, and try powering ita  B But if it's failed when I first start the machine after a night ofC pause, should't it have been cool enough to pass tests? It might be0D the temperature as long it's an IBM 6603 known for its heating... onE the other hand, it is failed only when it's on his place on channel 0 F and considered as member of the raid array. If I put it anywhere else,@ it looks ready and willing (so backup might work). Does the raid? controller do _extra_ tests to fail it's logical array members?a  J > then. Do back/phys or some such, to get a copy off the device as fast as  D Will that suceed considering it's a member of a raid array? I expectD the data organized in some other way, no files or stuff, and I don'tB have another identical disk (except for its pair in the raid). AndF will then the controller put the new one automatically in place of the failed one? I suspect not...   Sa   ------------------------------   Date: 27 Jan 03 11:06:24 EST From: grant@rigel.cc.wmich.edu- Subject: Re: Raid failed apparently good disko/ Message-ID: <fAUjMLak+Zgo@mcduck.acs.wmich.edu>P  E I don't have any experience with KZESC controller, but there are somee things I'd look at:r  F Are the disks really identical?  If the disk organization is differentA in any way, setting them up as hardware mirror is likely to fail.a  K Are they supported on the KZESC? It looks to me as though it only supporteds, narrow SCSI, although that may have changed.  F As Raid-1 is mirroring, you already have all the data on the surviving drive.  ` In article <d5440555.0301270433.92f959d@posting.google.com>, soterro@yahoo.com (Soterro) writes:H > Well, I'm quite sure I have the latest firmware on the machine itself,F > and also on the KZESC. I'm at work now so I can't give the versions,D > but I updated everything when I got the machine like 2 months ago. > L >> a copy of its data, pull it and get it good and cold, and try powering it > D > But if it's failed when I first start the machine after a night ofE > pause, should't it have been cool enough to pass tests? It might beaF > the temperature as long it's an IBM 6603 known for its heating... onG > the other hand, it is failed only when it's on his place on channel 0oH > and considered as member of the raid array. If I put it anywhere else,B > it looks ready and willing (so backup might work). Does the raidA > controller do _extra_ tests to fail it's logical array members?e > K >> then. Do back/phys or some such, to get a copy off the device as fast asp > F > Will that suceed considering it's a member of a raid array? I expectF > the data organized in some other way, no files or stuff, and I don'tD > have another identical disk (except for its pair in the raid). AndH > will then the controller put the new one automatically in place of the > failed one? I suspect not... >  > Se   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 05:51:20 -0800+ From: shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)a$ Subject: TCP/IP Sockets vs VMS QIO's< Message-ID: <bec993c8.0301270551.46e20a4@posting.google.com>  C I have an application, currently running on VAX/VMS with UCX, which2? keeps a hundred or so TCP/IP connections open to remote serversiC simultaneously.  The code is currently written with QIO's and AST's E and provides very good near-real-time response (10 ms or so) with the @ remote nodes.  The remote nodes are polled once a second and theF returned data is read in a fraction of a second to about half a secondE (depending on local events at the remote nodes).  No threads, all onea single process.-  @ QIO's with AST's are so cool when you have a few hundred pending reads.  D Now, say I get on a portability kick and want to rewrite the code soE that it no longer uses QIO's, but instead uses the C run-time libraryrD socket() interface with select() to do non-blocking I/O's.  Is thereF any way to write this code such that I will be guaranteed to have moreD than 32 pending reads?  My reading of the include *.h files tells meF that the mask that select() uses will limit me to, at most, 32 pending6 reads on a VAX.  Maybe the mask is 64-bit on an Alpha?) In any event that's still not big enough.e  F Like I said, I have nothing personal against QIO's and AST's, I'm veryC proud of my code.  But I'd like to know how this could be done more 
 portably withM select(), if it can be done.   Tim.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:00:45 -0400M0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca># Subject: Re: VAX network monitor...s/ Message-ID: <3E34F537.5DD3EFCA@vl.videotron.ca>    Here is another idea:h  M create a small application which creates a non=transparent decnet object. Run  it on each node.  N Then, the application (on each node) maintains a list of inbound connection itN has alive, and attempts at regular intervals to connect to any node it doesn't currently have a connection to.:  J (i.e. if A has already contacted B, B won't try to contact A, it will just/ monitor the existing link that was setup by A).s  I Each process gets the decnet event notification mailbox. If any link goesnI down, its gets a mailbox message indicating a link disconnection for thateK link, so the processes which had a connection to that node would know right + away that connection to that node was lost.h  L The potential might be interesting since if 30 nodes monitor each other, youJ could get a good idea of a failure location in the network by checking the logs of each of those 30 nodes.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:26:06 +0100h0 From: "labadie" <en_trajectant_a_mort@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: VMS Jokes0 Message-ID: <eccZ9.496$4B7.351@news.cpqcorp.net>  ; "Alan E. Feldman" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message07 news:b096a4ee.0301220847.19326081@posting.google.com...o: > "Rob Heyes" <rob.heyes@btopenworld.com> wrote in message+ news:<b0km87$37e$1@helle.btinternet.com>...wI > > I was wondering if anyone had any VMS jokes. Bit mad, I know, but you' know.s   Helloh   1) My favorite   The undocumented $ backup/ones_onlyJ saves about 50% on the backup time by saving only the ones and avoiding to backup the uninteristing 0 s.   $ 2) tired of initing devices with 0 ? $ init/ones_only will init a device with 1.   Grard   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:50:56 -0800  From: "AG" <ang@xtra.co.nz> # Subject: Re: VMS License Transfers?o5 Message-ID: <Yv5Z9.49742$F63.1063413@news.xtra.co.nz>-  2 "Tom Adams" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:ea44f5a1.0301241013.4430fc26@posting.google.com...eF > I am considering buying a DS10 to replace a failed AlphaStation 400. >DJ > Can I use the Paks from the 400 to cover some of the licenses, including3 > an 8 user license and and disk shadowing license.u >i% > The DS10 comes with a base license.t >lK > It looks to me that the units on the PAKs are adequate.  The only licenseWC > that I see that has higher unit requirements is the base license.V >r > Will it work?u >  > Is it legal? >tI > Can I treat the new system as a backup for the failed system to justifyeE > use of the licenses? I don't plan to every try to run both systems.   J This sort of question just begs for a professional legal advice - no pointI at all in asking it on some newsgroup forum unless you just want to start G a flame war or something:) After all, what if someone tells you: "Yeah, E sure, go ahead with it" - will you feel more comfortable? If so, why?e   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 09:49:05 -0800% From: tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams)-# Subject: Re: VMS License Transfers? = Message-ID: <ea44f5a1.0301270949.62cb4cfb@posting.google.com>o  h Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<t$bAGzf$fbzS@eisner.encompasserve.org>...g > In article <ea44f5a1.0301241013.4430fc26@posting.google.com>, tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) writes: H > > I am considering buying a DS10 to replace a failed AlphaStation 400. > > L > > Can I use the Paks from the 400 to cover some of the licenses, including > D > Some license can be sold with the hardware and others can be moved+ > between machines you own.  None are both.n > 5 > > an 8 user license and and disk shadowing license.g > @ > AS I recall, those are both the "sell with the hardware" type.  A Not according to that web page you referenced.  our multi user is A category 3 and disk shadowing must be category 2, since it is noth in the other lists.   > The only ones that seem to be non-tranferable (Category 1) are the base license and Open3d.  > Is Open3d required for Motif?  I am not sure why we have it on our old system.    > ' > > The DS10 comes with a base license.r > > M > > It looks to me that the units on the PAKs are adequate.  The only license E > > that I see that has higher unit requirements is the base license.P > >  > > Will it work?  > >  > > Is it legal? > B > Legality is controled by the Software License Transfer Policy atK > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/software/info/policies/swl_xfer.html .: > K > > Can I treat the new system as a backup for the failed system to justify G > > use of the licenses? I don't plan to every try to run both systems.o > N > That would only be legal if you intend to move back to the original machine. > @ > > Who do I call to get or transfer the correct legal licenses? > I > For transfers, see the web page I cited (and others to which it links).k > 9 > For purchasing new license, see "your normal reseller".    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:19:09 -0500n# From: "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov>tG Subject: RE: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?s: Message-ID: <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDGEBDCKAA.dallen@nist.gov>   > -----Original Message-----B > From: VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG [mailto:VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG]( > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:54 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComlI > Subject: Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?o >  <snip>  O > I > There were other "fun" things one could do with the old vinyl recording1J > system.  I have one record that fades into a single "theme" on the innerI > spiral where most automatic changers would pick up the arm.  If the arm-G > is left on the vinyl, the circular track at the center would continuea > this note ad infinitum.y   	Anybody remember:   	side A: "turn me over"t 	side B: "play me again"   	Dan   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jan 2003 08:20:05 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)oG Subject: Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?:3 Message-ID: <DaNLqxCK9iJr@eisner.encompasserve.org>   N In article <slrnb346qg.2v2.danco@ns2.pebble.org>, danco@ns2.pebble.org writes:  3 > Unless everything then operates at absolete zero, 3 > movement of some sort will still be occuring, no?l  @    Sorry to disapoint you, but there is motion at absolute zero.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:05:50 GMT 7 From: brad@.homeportal.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)aG Subject: RE: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R?l> Message-ID: <iVbZ9.52307$eM6.112795@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>  ` In article <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDGEBDCKAA.dallen@nist.gov>, "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> writes: >A >" >> -----Original Message-----PC >> From: VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG [mailto:VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG]-) >> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:54 PMi >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComJ >> Subject: Re: Where is LBN 0? Where should I place INDEXF.SYS on a CD-R? >> i ><snip>  >  >> tJ >> There were other "fun" things one could do with the old vinyl recordingK >> system.  I have one record that fades into a single "theme" on the inner2J >> spiral where most automatic changers would pick up the arm.  If the armH >> is left on the vinyl, the circular track at the center would continue >> this note ad infinitum. >c >	Anybody remember:  >u >	side A: "turn me over" >	side B: "play me again"o  6 I "remembered" it, but had to use Google to remind me:   "Let it Bleed", Rolling Stones   >x >	Dane >i >a  A _________________________________________________________________n0 Bradford J. Hamilton			"All opinions are my own"/ bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm		"Lose the MAPS"i   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.054 ************************