0 INFO-VAX	Thu, 30 Jan 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 60      Contents:; ?= OSX <> VMS NFS: %TCPIP-E-NFS_BFSCAL   MOUNT_POINT failed ? Re: ?= OSX <> VMS NFS: %TCPIP-E-NFS_BFSCAL   MOUNT_POINT failed ( Re: Alphaserver 4100 and Powerstorm 4D20= Re: Announcing a port of GnuPG V1.2 for OpenVMS Alpha and VAX = Re: Announcing a port of GnuPG V1.2 for OpenVMS Alpha and VAX  Re: automatic screensaver % RE: CSWS PHP and ORACLE configuration % DDNS (was Re: Was Doc's box cracked?)  dlsym problem. Re: dlsym problem. Re: dlsym problem. Re: dlsym problem. Re: dlsym problem.) DMA on IA-64, was: Re: EV7, ES47 question - Re: DMA on IA-64, was: Re: EV7, ES47 question # Re: EV7 / EV8 intellectual property # Re: EV7 / EV8 intellectual property , Re: GNU PATCH from OpenVMS freeware archives0 Re: HP has a chance to buy some software (rumor) Re: memoryleak Re: memoryleak Re: memoryleak. Re: Most common OpenVMS versions in use today? Re: Moving CMS& Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beer& Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beer& Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beer& Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beer& Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beer& Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beer! Re: Removing UCX from VMS system.  Rogues Gallery Re: Rogues Gallery Re: Rogues Gallery server SSH-1.5 on  openvms 7.31  Re: Submit at end of month?  Re: Submit at end of month?  Re: Submit at end of month?  Re: Submit at end of month?  Re: Submit at end of month?  Re: Submit at end of month?  Re: Submit at end of month?  Touchdown OpenVMS! Re: Touchdown OpenVMS!3 Re: Trouble with ext. CD-ROM on VAXstation 4000/VLC 0 VAX linker /$objdef documentation inconsistency.4 Re: VAX linker /$objdef documentation inconsistency.4 Re: VAX linker /$objdef documentation inconsistency. Re: VMS @25 CD now available VMS @25 CD now available Re: VMS @25 CD now available Re: VMS @25 CD now available  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:09:32 +0100 . From: "Hans M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de>D Subject: ?= OSX <> VMS NFS: %TCPIP-E-NFS_BFSCAL   MOUNT_POINT failedB Message-ID: <aus-9B4493.15093230012003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>  E The following error occurs when I try to connect to a Open VMS 7.2-1  @ (Tcpip 5.1) from OSX 10.2.3 with GO TO Server "nfs:// Alpha IP":  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  30-JAN-2003 12:34:19.40  %%%%%%%%%%%" Message from user TCPIP$NFS on V99; %TCPIP-E-NFS_BFSCAL, operation MOUNT_POINT failed on file /    The error on OSX is -5000.   What's missing in my set up?= How does OSX know that the directory to mount is OVMS format? F Do I need to set up more than the IP and host name (viro270g3) in OSX?    I The OSX host is viro270g3 (lower case letters) and it's IP is entered in  G the TCPIP host table. The UIC and GID below are from OSX. User AUS has  4 UIC=[210,1] and owns dkb400:[nfs_test.test] on OVMS.   My NSF on OVMS set up is:    Proxy ; VMS User_name     Type      User_ID    Group_ID   Host_name ; AUS               OND           502          20   VIRO270G3   "             Dynamic Filesystem Map; Pathname                                Logical File System / /vmsdisk                                DKB400:    export1 File System                             Host name 1 /vmsdisk/nfs_test/test                  VIRO270G3 0                               Options:  Name_cvt  C Service             Port  Proto    Process          Address   State   E FTP                   21  TCP      TCPIP$FTP        0.0.0.0   Enabled E MOUNT                 10  TCP,UDP  TCPIP$MOUNTD     0.0.0.0   Enabled E NFS                 2049  UDP      TCPIP$NFS        0.0.0.0   Enabled E PORTMAPPER           111  TCP,UDP  TCPIP$PORTM      0.0.0.0   Enabled E SMTP                  25  TCP      TCPIP$SMTP       0.0.0.0   Enabled E TELNET                23  TCP      not defined      0.0.0.0   Enabled    --  B Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:09:30 -0500 * From: Tom Stiller <tomstiller@comcast.net>H Subject: Re: ?= OSX <> VMS NFS: %TCPIP-E-NFS_BFSCAL   MOUNT_POINT failedH Message-ID: <tomstiller-D25330.11093030012003@news.comcast.giganews.com>  B In article <aus-9B4493.15093230012003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>,0  "Hans M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:  G > The following error occurs when I try to connect to a Open VMS 7.2-1  B > (Tcpip 5.1) from OSX 10.2.3 with GO TO Server "nfs:// Alpha IP": > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  30-JAN-2003 12:34:19.40  %%%%%%%%%%%$ > Message from user TCPIP$NFS on V99= > %TCPIP-E-NFS_BFSCAL, operation MOUNT_POINT failed on file /  >  > The error on OSX is -5000. >  > What's missing in my set up?  I You probably haven't defined the mount points in a 'mounts' directory in  G NetInfo.  The question has been addressed recently.  Look in the group  	 archives.    --   Tom Stiller   E PGP fingerprint =  5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3  7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:20:25 -0500 A From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> 1 Subject: Re: Alphaserver 4100 and Powerstorm 4D20 , Message-ID: <3e396ceb_2@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  I It shouldn't make a difference.  It probably was not tested (the card was  probably EOL by then).    + "Dirk Munk" <munk@home.nl> wrote in message + news:dYWZ9.1715$Y9.237183@zwoll1.home.nl... L > I may be able to get a Alphaserver 4100. Don't know yet what type exactly, but K > I'm quite sure it does not have a decent graphics card. Just a simple one  for  > booting etc. > I > Now I do have a PWS500 with a Powerstorm 4D20, and I was thinking about  movingJ > the 4D20 to the Alphaserver 4100. However it seems that the 4D20 is onlyI > supported in the 300 MHz version of the 4100, and not in the 533 or 600  MHz  > versions.  > F > Can anyone tell me why that is, or has anyone had a 4D20 in a faster
 version of > the 4100 ? >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:22:44 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.comF Subject: Re: Announcing a port of GnuPG V1.2 for OpenVMS Alpha and VAX? Message-ID: <OF831746D8.2B55810F-ON85256CBD.006AD0EA@metso.com>   I I reported this in several venues.  It is also that way in the readme.txt 
 and on theJ download page.  When listing the requirements, it is unclear about OpenVMS	 VAX V7.2.   J From:  "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com> on 01/29/2003        12:53 PM   G Please respond to "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com>    To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com cc:   I Subject:    Re: Announcing a port of GnuPG V1.2 for OpenVMS Alpha and VAX     G >        GnuPG for VAX and Alpha V1.2 is up and available for your use.   I The registration page does not allow me to specify the correct version of 5 VMS I use.  The choices with which I'm presented are:    OpenVMS V7.3-1 OpenVMS V7.3 OpenVMS V7.2-2 OpenVMS V7.2-1
 Don't Know  I I'm running OpenVMS V7.2.  There is no V7.2-1, 7.2-2, or 7.3-1 for VAXes. I If this software is, as you say, "for OpenVMS VAX and Alpha", at the very @ least you could allow us VAX users to be able to tell the truth. --I Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com 5 Smiths Aerospace  Addresses modified to prevent SPAM. @ 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:39:11 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.comF Subject: Re: Announcing a port of GnuPG V1.2 for OpenVMS Alpha and VAX? Message-ID: <OFAF66F69D.E08092AE-ON85256CBE.00548ED1@metso.com>    I got these today.G ---------------------- Forwarded by Norm Raphael on 01/30/2003 10:24 AM  ---------------------------   J From:  "Shinagawa, Takaaki" <Takaaki.Shinagawa@hp.com> on 01/30/2003 10:11	        AM   D Subject:    RE: README_VMS.TXT (How to use GnuPG v.1.2.0 on OpenVMS)    
 Dear Norm,  I That's right-- 7.2-2 is not available on VAX.  For VAX, v7.2 or higher is  our  recommendation.    Thanks for reporting the issue.   
 Best regards, # Taka (OpenVMS Security Engineering)  > ----------  6 > Sent:            Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:27 AM% > To:              Shinagawa, Takaaki G > Subject:         README_VMS.TXT (How to use GnuPG v.1.2.0 on OpenVMS)  >  >     % > Requirements (for GnuPG on OpenVMS)  >  >  - Alpha or VAX $ >  - OpenVMS Version 7.2-2 or higher' >  - Compaq/DEC C version 6.0 or higher  >    and   G ---------------------- Forwarded by Norm Raphael on 01/30/2003 10:37 AM  ---------------------------   I From:  "OpenVMS Security" <openvmssecurity@hp.com> on 01/30/2003 10:03 AM      Hi Norm,K    Your right VAX is 7.2 only we will fix that in our documentation. Thanks  for pointing it out.  - Leo   > -----Original Message----- > + > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:58 AM  >  >  > K > The requirement statement is unclear on OpenVMS VAX V7.2, since it states J > OpenVMS Alpha or OpenVMS VAX V7.2-2, and there is no OpenVMS VAX V7.2-2, > only V7.2.H > Can you clarify?  Shouldn't you fix this in all the right places (I've seen > 3 so far)? > -Norm  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:23:43 -0500 A From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> " Subject: Re: automatic screensaver. Message-ID: <3e396db0$1_2@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  H Yup.  It doesn't get rid of the other visuals, just changes the default.  @ "Vance Haemmerle" <vance@toyvax.Glendale.CA.US> wrote in message/ news:3E383459.4A4B30F1@toyvax.Glendale.CA.US...  > Fred Kleinsorge wrote: > 0 > > $def/sys/exec DECW$SCN_24PLANE_PSEUDOCOLOR 1 > > J > > This "should' get you the 8-bit pseudo color visual as the default (if my$ > > brain cells still are sparking). > A >   I wanted to let you know that this did indeed work.  Only the G > default visual is pseudocolor, all the other visuals are still there.  >  > -- > Vance Haemmerle    ------------------------------   Date: 30 Jan 2003 05:54 CDT ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) . Subject: RE: CSWS PHP and ORACLE configuration- Message-ID: <30JAN200305540315@gerg.tamu.edu>   1 John Brandon <John.Brandon@dalsemi.com> writes...   B You may have YOUR HTML/test problems resoved, but if so the server( you talk to is still screwing things up.  B Below is your post in it's entirety. As you can see, you are stillC sending everything twice - once as plain text and once as HTML, via  a multipart MIME message.   B MS Exchange is notorious for doing this. The people who "designed"E (to use the word loosely) that piece of junk should be smacked upside F the head with a large blunt object, as should the programmers who were6 stupid enough to go ahead and implement that "design".   --- Carl  K }This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand = }this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.  } ( }------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C7B3.E9B93E20 }Content-Type: text/plain; }	charset="iso-8859-1" } G }I believe I have MY HTML/text problems resolved.  If not, I guess I am  }buying a lot of beer... } 
 }John Brandon  }VMS Systems Administrator }Dallas Semiconductor  }john.brandon@dalsemi.com  }972.371.4172 wk }972.371.4003 fx } ( }------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C7B3.E9B93E20 }Content-Type: text/html;  }	charset="iso-8859-1" } 2 }<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> }<HTML>  }<HEAD> I }<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> I }<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> 5 }<TITLE>RE: CSWS PHP and ORACLE configuration</TITLE>  }</HEAD> }<BODY>  } { }<P><FONT SIZE=2>I believe I have MY HTML/text problems resolved.&nbsp; If not, I guess I am buying a lot of beer...</FONT>  }</P>  } $ }<P><FONT SIZE=2>John Brandon</FONT>2 }<BR><FONT SIZE=2>VMS Systems Administrator</FONT>- }<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Dallas Semiconductor</FONT> 1 }<BR><FONT SIZE=2>john.brandon@dalsemi.com</FONT> ( }<BR><FONT SIZE=2>972.371.4172 wk</FONT>( }<BR><FONT SIZE=2>972.371.4003 fx</FONT> }</P>  }  }</BODY> }</HTML>* }------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C7B3.E9B93E20--   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 08:44:17 -00005 From: "Doc.Cypher" <doc_cypher@redneck.gacracker.org> . Subject: DDNS (was Re: Was Doc's box cracked?)5 Message-ID: <20030130084417.1217.qmail@gacracker.org>   5 NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. 8 No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.8 --------------------------------------------------------  G On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> wrote:   G >Just curious, what DDNS service are you using and how are you updating I >the DDNS with your new IP address?  I am using ZONEEDIT and have a linux # >box monitoring the Linksys router.   B I use the DDNS service from CJB.net (hence http://vmsbox.cjb.net).  I It isn't particularly easy to get current leased IP information out of my F router so I just use a small Perl script that runs every 15 minutes to+ update their DNS tables with my current IP.      Doc. --  : Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...K ~ VAXman                                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 02:13:41 -0800' From: avs@nikom.tagil.ru (Andrey Savin)  Subject: dlsym problem. = Message-ID: <96faaf36.0301300213.335ef1d4@posting.google.com>    Hi. * I have problem with call a dlsym function. My simple programm (dltest.c).
 ********** #include <stdio.h> #include <dlfcn.h>    int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {  	void *pHnd;
 	void *pFunc; ;     pHnd = dlopen("sys$share:decw$xlibshr.exe", RTLD_LAZY);      if (pHnd == NULL) { 1         printf("dlopen error '%s'\n", dlerror());          return 0;      }      !     pFunc = dlsym(pHnd, "XBELL");  	if (pFunc == NULL) { 6         printf("dlsym XBELL error '%s'\n", dlerror());     }      dlclose(pHnd);              return 0;      } 
 ********** $ cc dltest 
 $ link dltest    and have following result:   $ run dltest/ $ dlsym XBELL error 'function not implemented '   # What I do not correct or this bug ?  OVMS 7-2-1.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:12:15 GMT ' From: Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com>  Subject: Re: dlsym problem. , Message-ID: <3E391699.5080001@theblakes.com>  F Where in the CRTL docs did you read that RTLD_LAZY could be passed to  dlopen?    ------------------------------   Date: 30 Jan 2003 06:24 CDT ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)  Subject: Re: dlsym problem. - Message-ID: <30JAN200306240471@gerg.tamu.edu>   + Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com> writes... G }Where in the CRTL docs did you read that RTLD_LAZY could be passed to   }dlopen?    
 From dlfcn.h:    /*5 **  Define the mode parameters to the dlopen function  */ #define RTLD_LAZY  1 #define RTLD_NOW   2     /* **  Function prototypes  */. void *dlopen (const char *pathname, int mode);    @ So why wouldn't he be able to pass a value that is defined to be@ one of the two possible values to pass? Do you think that the .h file is incorrect?   --- Carl   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:09:55 GMT ' From: Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com>  Subject: Re: dlsym problem. , Message-ID: <3E39322D.5070301@theblakes.com>   Carl Perkins wrote:   A >So why wouldn't he be able to pass a value that is defined to be A >one of the two possible values to pass? Do you think that the .h  >file is incorrect?  > B If you read the documentation it says of the mode argument: "This ( argument is ignored on OpenVMS systems."  L So there is a bug here. Its not ignoring the argument as it says it does :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:41:09 +0100 % From: "Jakob Erber" <erberj@yahoo.de>  Subject: Re: dlsym problem. % Message-ID: <3e393986$1@news.post.ch>   : "Andrey Savin" <avs@nikom.tagil.ru> schrieb im Newsbeitrag7 news:96faaf36.0301300213.335ef1d4@posting.google.com...  > Hi. , > I have problem with call a dlsym function.  > My simple programm (dltest.c).   Hello,  H I had also a problem with dlsym once. enineering sent the following Test	 Programm:  /* ** TEST_LOAD.C **0 ** Usage: test_load {symbol_name {library_name}} **8 ** Uses dlopen/dlsym and LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL to locate  ** a symbol in a loadable image. **# ** Author: Dave Faulkner, June 2002  ** */ #include <stdio.h> #include <errno.h> #include <stdlib.h>  #include <dlfcn.h> #include <string.h>    #include <descrip.h> #include <lib$routines.h>  #include <ssdef.h>   static void *symbol;  : void *load_dlopen(char *library_name, char *symbol_name) {     void *handle;      void *symbol_value = NULL;  -     handle = dlopen(library_name, RTLD_LAZY);      if (!handle) {K         printf("? FAILED: dlopen() for %s. dlerror() = %s\n", library_name,  dlerror());          return NULL;     }   .     symbol_value = dlsym(handle, symbol_name);     if (symbol_value) { >         printf("*** SUCCESS: dlsym() for %s in %s = 0x%08x\n",@                        symbol_name, library_name, symbol_value);         return symbol_value;     }        /*C     ** Some earlier versions of dlsym() do not detect warnings when C     ** the image is loaded. Retrying the symbol lookup may succeed.      */.     symbol_value = dlsym(handle, symbol_name);     if (symbol_value) { E         printf("*** SUCCESS: dlsym() after 2nd attempt for %s in %s = 
 0x%08x\n",@                        symbol_name, library_name, symbol_value);         return symbol_value;     }   >     printf("? FAILED: dlsym() for %s in %s. dlerror() = %s\n",7                 symbol_name,  library_name, dlerror());        return symbol_value; }   I int fis( struct dsc$descriptor_d *lib, struct dsc$descriptor_d *sym, void  **symbol_value)  {      int status = 0;        *symbol_value = NULL;    #ifdef FIS_NO_SIGNAL     /*I     ** If there is an error returns from this function with signal value. .     ** Error status may not be as informative.     */"     lib$establish(lib$sig_to_ret); #endif  =     status = lib$find_image_symbol( lib, sym, symbol_value );        return status; }   7 void *load_fis(char *library_name, char *symbol_name) {       struct dsc$descriptor_d lib;      struct dsc$descriptor_d sym;     int status;      void *symbol_value;   ,     lib.dsc$w_length = strlen(library_name);%     lib.dsc$b_dtype  = DSC$K_DTYPE_T; %     lib.dsc$b_class  = DSC$K_CLASS_S; %     lib.dsc$a_pointer = library_name;   +     sym.dsc$w_length = strlen(symbol_name); %     sym.dsc$b_dtype  = DSC$K_DTYPE_T; %     sym.dsc$b_class  = DSC$K_CLASS_S; $     sym.dsc$a_pointer = symbol_name;  ,     status = fis(&lib, &sym, &symbol_value);  '     if (symbol_value && (status & 1)) { L         printf("*** SUCCESS: lib$find_image_symbol() for %s in %s = 0x%08x",A                         symbol_name, library_name, symbol_value);          return symbol_value;     }   K     printf( "? FAILED: lib$find_image_symbol() for %s in %s. Error = %s\n", F                 symbol_name, library_name, strerror(EVMSERR, status));       return symbol_value; }   " int main (int argc, char **argv) {       void *handle_dlopen = NULL;      void *handle_fis = NULL;     char *symbol_name = NULL;      char *library_name = NULL;       if (argc > 1)          symbol_name = argv[1];4     else if (!(symbol_name = getenv("TEST_SYMBOL")))         symbol_name = "FOO";       if (argc > 2)          library_name = argv[2]; 6     else if (!(library_name = getenv("TEST_LIBRARY")))#         library_name = "LIBOG_SHR";   @     printf("\n*** TESTING dlopen() for %s in %s\n", symbol_name, library_name);;     handle_dlopen = load_dlopen(library_name, symbol_name);   B     printf("\n*** TESTING lib$find_image_symbol() for %s in %s\n", symbol_name, library_name); 5     handle_fis = load_fis(library_name, symbol_name);   $     if (handle_dlopen != handle_fis)K         printf("? Failed: %s in %s. dlsym = 0x%08x, lib$find_image_symbol()  = 0x%08x\n",E                symbol_name, library_name, handle_dlopen, handle_fis);  }    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 07:03:37 -0600B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)2 Subject: DMA on IA-64, was: Re: EV7, ES47 question3 Message-ID: <O7UoN$1DgMRM@eisner.encompasserve.org>   p In article <3e36bad2_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> writes: > C > While we are focused on HP hardware, we are not doing anything in H > SW that is not general for the Itanium architecture.  Putting VMS on aH > "generic" Itanium2 is a business/marketing decision, not technical oneG > (aside from some limitations like the lack of IO mapping registers on ) > the vanilla Intel core logic chipsets).  >   M A while back, you talked about a possible future generic interface in drivers K to use mapping registers if present, or to use other access methods if they  were not present.   	 [Posting: M http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=SQzr9.22%24xa3.260261%40news.cpqcorp.net  ]   , What is is the current situation with this ?  K Do the current drivers for IA-64 assume that mapping registers are present, J or do they try other access methods such as, for example, using the Direct# DMA window when it's a PCI device ?   4 BTW, how big is the PCI Direct DMA window on IA-64 ?   Thanks for any information,    Simon.   --  B Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       & "This is VMS. Viruses are irrelevant."   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:30:03 -0500 A From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> 6 Subject: Re: DMA on IA-64, was: Re: EV7, ES47 question. Message-ID: <3e396f2c$1_1@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  G "Simon Clubley" <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote in 5 message news:O7UoN$1DgMRM@eisner.encompasserve.org... @ > In article <3e36bad2_3@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge"1 <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> writes:  > > E > > While we are focused on HP hardware, we are not doing anything in J > > SW that is not general for the Itanium architecture.  Putting VMS on aJ > > "generic" Itanium2 is a business/marketing decision, not technical oneI > > (aside from some limitations like the lack of IO mapping registers on + > > the vanilla Intel core logic chipsets).  > >  > G > A while back, you talked about a possible future generic interface in  drivers H > to use mapping registers if present, or to use other access methods if they > were not present.  >  > [Posting:  > L http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=SQzr9.22%24xa3.260261%40news.cpqcorp.ne t  > ]  > . > What is is the current situation with this ? >   I It's on the work list for the IO EXEC group.  But it is not a P0 item for C first ship, since the HP core logic chipset provides map registers.   D > Do the current drivers for IA-64 assume that mapping registers are present,L > or do they try other access methods such as, for example, using the Direct% > DMA window when it's a PCI device ?  > 6 > BTW, how big is the PCI Direct DMA window on IA-64 ?  D Current drivers (for Alpha) have always been able to assume that mapL registers were available.  They optionally can see if their memory fits intoI the direct DMA window by making IOC$ calls to get the address and size of  the direct window.  G On a generic IA64 system without map registers, you can only get to the H first 4G of memory directly *if* the device is a 32-bit device, in whichK case you have to buffer the IO through a buffer in the first 4G (use BAP or 0 whatever).  A 64-bit PCI device isn't a problem.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:23:34 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> , Subject: Re: EV7 / EV8 intellectual propertyI Message-ID: <Wrb_9.161996$ej1.30152@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   3 "Bob Willard" <BobwBSGS@attbi.com> wrote in message " news:3E3936C5.8090400@attbi.com... > John Smith wrote: 5 > > "Shane Smith" <ssmith@icius.com> wrote in message . > > news:01C2C77E.E22864E0@sulfer.icius.com... > > 9 > >>>"Carl Perkins" <carl@gerg.tamu.edu> wrote in message , > >>>news:29JAN200303373999@gerg.tamu.edu... > >>> - > >>>>"John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes... 8 > >>>>}http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/28947.html > >>>>} F > >>>>}The EV7 runs at 1GHz and 1.15GHz and only includes one core per > >>> 
 > >>>chip. > >>> < > >>>>}It was designed by the old Digital Alpha chip team in > >>>  > > Shrewsbury,  > > C > >>>>}Massachusetts, which will eventually be moved over to Intel.  The  > >>> 	 > >>>chip  > >>> A > >>>>}maker last year bought the Alpha team and its intellectual  > >>>  > > property > >  > >>>as  > >>> B > >>>>}part of the Alpha sunsetting that Compaq announced prior to > >>> 	 > > being  > > " > >>>>}acquired by HP last spring. > >>>>}  > >>>>} 7 > >>>>}So, what does HP own if this article is correct?  > >>>>< > >>>>The article is not correct. Intel didn't buy the Alpha > >>>  > > "intellectual  > > C > >>>>property" - they bought a non-exclusive license to all of it.  So,  > >>>  > > in > > A > >>>>essence, they bought the right to use all the Alpha related  > >>>  > > patents  > > E > >>>>and all other information about it, but HP actually owns it and  > >>>  > > is > > 	 > >>>free  > >>> E > >>>>to use it themselves and to license it to anyone else that they  > >>>  > > feel > > 	 > >>>like  > >>> > > >>>>licensing it to (at the possible risk of anoying Intel). > >>> E > >>>That's what I thought. So I suppose HP could tell Intel to choke  on0 > >>>Itanic II and partner with AMD/IBM instead. > >>D > >>Actually I think there might be an even more enjoyable (and just asD > >>unlikely) option. Wouldn't HP have inherited DEC's right to make > > 	 > > Intel  > > E > >>produce Alphas for them? I don't know the details of that ruling,  > > 
 > > but if > > D > >>it wasn't restricted to a single generation HP could really make > > 	 > > Intel  > > D > >>mad. Team up with IBM to finish the EV8 design, then force Intel toF > >>produce chips that left their beloved Itanic in the dust... Sorry, > >  > > I'll > >  > >>get back to reality now. > >  > >  > > F > > I may be wrong on this, but isn't IBM's copper process better than > > what Intel currently has?  > >  > >  > F > In the immoral words of Bill Clinton, "define better".  Intel's fabsE > have traditionally been optimized for yield, which means chip cost, F > while other fabs (such as Alpha fabs) were optimized for chip speed.    > In other words....Better, faster, cheaper. Pick two. Just like	 software.   A [OT} - Speaking of cheaper - it used to be...say 1997-ish that an E Alpha/VMS system and a Alpha/Tru64 system were priced within spitting F distance of one another, the theory being that the then Digital didn't? want customers to pick unix vs. VMS based on cost from Digital.   E These days there is a much bigger price discrepancy between Alpha/VMS F and Alpha/Tru64 systems. Is that as a result of the 'bundling' of someF formerly extra-cost layered products in with the base system (I'm sureA that's the justification that would be given), or is it a case of E 'let's price VMS out of existence' (not withstanding Carly's comments @ on CD - btw, where is the advertising of VMS that backs up those words?)?   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:29:32 GMT & From: Bob Willard <BobwBSGS@attbi.com>, Subject: Re: EV7 / EV8 intellectual property( Message-ID: <3E3936C5.8090400@attbi.com>   John Smith wrote: 3 > "Shane Smith" <ssmith@icius.com> wrote in message , > news:01C2C77E.E22864E0@sulfer.icius.com... > 7 >>>"Carl Perkins" <carl@gerg.tamu.edu> wrote in message * >>>news:29JAN200303373999@gerg.tamu.edu... >>> + >>>>"John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes... 6 >>>>}http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/28947.html >>>>} D >>>>}The EV7 runs at 1GHz and 1.15GHz and only includes one core per >>>  >>>chip. >>> : >>>>}It was designed by the old Digital Alpha chip team in >>> 
 > Shrewsbury,  > E >>>>}Massachusetts, which will eventually be moved over to Intel. The  >>>  >>>chip  >>> ? >>>>}maker last year bought the Alpha team and its intellectual  >>> 
 > property >  >>>as  >>> @ >>>>}part of the Alpha sunsetting that Compaq announced prior to >>>  > being  >   >>>>}acquired by HP last spring. >>>>}  >>>>} 5 >>>>}So, what does HP own if this article is correct?  >>>>: >>>>The article is not correct. Intel didn't buy the Alpha >>>  > "intellectual  > E >>>>property" - they bought a non-exclusive license to all of it. So,  >>>  > in > ? >>>>essence, they bought the right to use all the Alpha related  >>> 	 > patents  > C >>>>and all other information about it, but HP actually owns it and  >>>  > is >  >>>free  >>> C >>>>to use it themselves and to license it to anyone else that they  >>>  > feel >  >>>like  >>> < >>>>licensing it to (at the possible risk of anoying Intel). >>> F >>>That's what I thought. So I suppose HP could tell Intel to choke on. >>>Itanic II and partner with AMD/IBM instead. >>E >>Actually I think there might be an even more enjoyable (and just as B >>unlikely) option. Wouldn't HP have inherited DEC's right to make >  > Intel  > C >>produce Alphas for them? I don't know the details of that ruling,  >  > but if > B >>it wasn't restricted to a single generation HP could really make >  > Intel  > E >>mad. Team up with IBM to finish the EV8 design, then force Intel to D >>produce chips that left their beloved Itanic in the dust... Sorry, >  > I'll >  >>get back to reality now. >  >  > D > I may be wrong on this, but isn't IBM's copper process better than > what Intel currently has?  >  >   D In the immoral words of Bill Clinton, "define better".  Intel's fabsC have traditionally been optimized for yield, which means chip cost, D while other fabs (such as Alpha fabs) were optimized for chip speed. --   Cheers, Bob    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 07:59:07 -0800: From: craig.berry@SignalTreeSolutions.com (Craig A. Berry)5 Subject: Re: GNU PATCH from OpenVMS freeware archives = Message-ID: <7f15589f.0301300759.2a9c210a@posting.google.com>   j robert.sundstrom@upright.se (Robert Sundstr m) wrote in message news:<b19u3g$925$1@yggdrasil.utfors.se>... > Hello everybody.L > A few years ago I downloaded the Gnu Patch port from the OpenVMS freeware N > archives. It has been working well until my shop upgraded to VMS 7.3, it is : > now frequently crashing in the quotearg_buffer routine.  > Q > Unfortunately, quite a few of the source files of that archive are corrupt one  N > way or the other. Can anyone point me in a direction where I can find fresh 0 > source files, and particularly a DESCRIP.MMS ?  B The following includes VAX and Alpha binaries as well as complete  source and a descrip.mms:   = <http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/freeware50/gnupatch/>   ( GNU diff and company are available from   A <http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/freeware50/gnudiffutils/>    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:55:41 +0100 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>9 Subject: Re: HP has a chance to buy some software (rumor) ) Message-ID: <3E39752D.7060702@vajhoej.dk>    John Smith wrote: 4 > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,838444,00.asp > F > Several tattlers told Spencer that BEA Systems may be putting itself@ > on the block-or is at least dropping hints to that effect. TheF > tipsters assumed that the rumors are an effort by the infrastructureH > software maker to raise its stock price or an attempt to see if anyone > has an interest. >  > G > HP can buy back the software Digital sold to BEA and control some key E > software for VMS once again.  Maybe they'll buy Rdb from Oracle too    More speculation in:4    http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/2677   Arne   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jan 2003 23:35:02 -0800' From: rallykarro@hotmail.com (karolina)  Subject: Re: memoryleak = Message-ID: <c8a98246.0301292335.6f037d7a@posting.google.com>   \ Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com> wrote in message news:<01C2C783.3F3471C0@sulfer.icius.com>...F > What language are you using? I don't know exactly where to look justE > now, but I'm sure I've got some tools for tracking down leaks in C.  >  > Shane  >  > -----Original Message-----> > From: rallykarro@hotmail.com [mailto:rallykarro@hotmail.com], > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:34 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come > Subject: memoryleak: >  >  > Hi,F > E > I have a problem with a program on VMS that are leaking memory. HowUG > can I easy get hold of my leak. I tried lib$show_vm but realised thatgF > it doesn't give me anything. I read at compaq that this was obsolete
 > as well. > E > Is there any replacement for lib$show_vm or is there any thing likeO! > "purifier" running on OpenVMS??  >  > thanks for helping >  > //karolina  	 Hi Shane,e  I I am using C. I would love some tool the lets med track this leak down...    regards,   Karolina   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 01:04:11 -0800' From: rallykarro@hotmail.com (karolina)l Subject: Re: memoryleak = Message-ID: <c8a98246.0301300104.64376709@posting.google.com>y   rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) wrote in message news:<rdeininger-2901032134580001@user-2ive10q.dialup.mindspring.com>...? > In article <c8a98246.0301291034.5ad98022@posting.google.com>,w* > rallykarro@hotmail.com (karolina) wrote: >  > >Hi, > >mF > >I have a problem with a program on VMS that are leaking memory. HowH > >can I easy get hold of my leak. I tried lib$show_vm but realised thatG > >it doesn't give me anything. I read at compaq that this was obsolete  > >as well.  > > F > >Is there any replacement for lib$show_vm or is there any thing like" > >"purifier" running on OpenVMS?? > J > Do you mean LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE?  AFAIK, LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE is not obsolete. L > Public VMS components almost never go away.  Sometimes they are supersededL > by newer, more functional components, but the old stuff remains available. > L > There is a chapter about memory management in the VMS programming concepts' > manual.  It has a very good overview.M > C > There are some extensive hints available for debugging VMS memorylL > management problems.  IIRC, these are either in the OpenVMS FAQ, or in theL > Ask the Wizard section at the VMS web site.  You should have the FAQ handy > for reference in any case. > L > And as someone else mentioned, there is the Heap Analyzer, part of the VMS > debugger.    Hi,4  F I mean LIB$SHOW_VM. I have to check Heap Analyzer though, a fast checkF gave me that I couldn't find any menu for it in the DECWindowsDebugger  F If I for example run this in a loop which in my world should result in+ a leak of 10000 * int bytes for every loop:    LIB$SHOW_VM(); LIB$SHOW_VM_64();, LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE();T LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE_64();                         7 test_p = (int *) malloc( sizeof(10000 * sizeof(int) ));e test_p = NULL;   LIB$SHOW_VM(); LIB$SHOW_VM_64();t LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE();a LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE_64();  ' this wil give the output for each loop:w  E 1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM, 159 calls to LIB$FREE_VM, 33056 bytes stillI	 allocatedeB 0 calls to LIB$GET_VM_64, 0 calls to LIB$FREE_VM_64, 0 bytes still	 allocatednE 1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM, 159 calls to LIB$FREE_VM, 33056 bytes still 	 allocated B 0 calls to LIB$GET_VM_64, 0 calls to LIB$FREE_VM_64, 0 bytes still	 allocatedOE 1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM, 159 calls to LIB$FREE_VM, 33056 bytes still 	 allocated B 0 calls to LIB$GET_VM_64, 0 calls to LIB$FREE_VM_64, 0 bytes still	 allocatedoE 1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM, 159 calls to LIB$FREE_VM, 33056 bytes stills	 allocated B 0 calls to LIB$GET_VM_64, 0 calls to LIB$FREE_VM_64, 0 bytes still	 allocatedv etc  etc.  F in other words it doesn't give me anything. I have this little exampleD down in the code so the "1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM" and "159 calls toE LIB$FREE_VM" is data that has been set further up in the code and has $ nothing to do with my little test...D You can run this test until you run out of memory, the LIB$ routines still gives me nothing!   F Reading at http://www.opus1.com/vmsdoc/progtool/cpqc64/5763p015.htm it says: C .....This is no longer the case; interaction between these routiness< and the Compaq C RTL memory allocation routines is no longer@ problematic (although LIB$SHOW_VM can no longer be used to track$ Compaq C RTL malloc and free usage).  D My question is: What do I use instead of LIB$SHOW_VM if it no longer
 can be used??d  
 //karolina   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:33:22 -0500<2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: memoryleakiL Message-ID: <rdeininger-3001030733220001@user-2ive38l.dialup.mindspring.com>  = In article <c8a98246.0301300104.64376709@posting.google.com>,O( rallykarro@hotmail.com (karolina) wrote:  > >rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) wrote in messageH news:<rdeininger-2901032134580001@user-2ive10q.dialup.mindspring.com>...@ >> In article <c8a98246.0301291034.5ad98022@posting.google.com>,+ >> rallykarro@hotmail.com (karolina) wrote:d >> m >> >Hi,t >> >G >> >I have a problem with a program on VMS that are leaking memory. HowtI >> >can I easy get hold of my leak. I tried lib$show_vm but realised thatnH >> >it doesn't give me anything. I read at compaq that this was obsolete >> >as well. >> >G >> >Is there any replacement for lib$show_vm or is there any thing likeg# >> >"purifier" running on OpenVMS??j >> RK >> Do you mean LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE?  AFAIK, LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE is not obsolete. iM >> Public VMS components almost never go away.  Sometimes they are supersededrM >> by newer, more functional components, but the old stuff remains available.  >> sM >> There is a chapter about memory management in the VMS programming concepts4( >> manual.  It has a very good overview. >>  D >> There are some extensive hints available for debugging VMS memoryM >> management problems.  IIRC, these are either in the OpenVMS FAQ, or in the,M >> Ask the Wizard section at the VMS web site.  You should have the FAQ handy  >> for reference in any case.  >> pM >> And as someone else mentioned, there is the Heap Analyzer, part of the VMSe >> debugger. >a >Hi, >tG >I mean LIB$SHOW_VM. I have to check Heap Analyzer though, a fast checkhG >gave me that I couldn't find any menu for it in the DECWindowsDebugger0  G I don't recall how the heap analyzer is used.  I only remember that thet debugger manual tells me how.a  G >If I for example run this in a loop which in my world should result in , >a leak of 10000 * int bytes for every loop: >t >LIB$SHOW_VM();a >LIB$SHOW_VM_64(); >LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE(); >LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE_64();, >                        S8 >test_p = (int *) malloc( sizeof(10000 * sizeof(int) )); >test_p = NULL;> >  >LIB$SHOW_VM();  >LIB$SHOW_VM_64(); >LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE(); >LIB$SHOW_VM_ZONE_64();o >.( >this wil give the output for each loop: >mF >1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM, 159 calls to LIB$FREE_VM, 33056 bytes still
 >allocatedC >0 calls to LIB$GET_VM_64, 0 calls to LIB$FREE_VM_64, 0 bytes stillo
 >allocatedF >1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM, 159 calls to LIB$FREE_VM, 33056 bytes still
 >allocatedC >0 calls to LIB$GET_VM_64, 0 calls to LIB$FREE_VM_64, 0 bytes stilln
 >allocatedF >1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM, 159 calls to LIB$FREE_VM, 33056 bytes still
 >allocatedC >0 calls to LIB$GET_VM_64, 0 calls to LIB$FREE_VM_64, 0 bytes still"
 >allocatedF >1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM, 159 calls to LIB$FREE_VM, 33056 bytes still
 >allocatedC >0 calls to LIB$GET_VM_64, 0 calls to LIB$FREE_VM_64, 0 bytes stillh
 >allocated >etc   >etc.s >rG >in other words it doesn't give me anything. I have this little exampleRE >down in the code so the "1064 calls to LIB$GET_VM" and "159 calls to F >LIB$FREE_VM" is data that has been set further up in the code and has% >nothing to do with my little test...3E >You can run this test until you run out of memory, the LIB$ routines  >still gives me nothing! >VG >Reading at http://www.opus1.com/vmsdoc/progtool/cpqc64/5763p015.htm itt >says:D >.....This is no longer the case; interaction between these routines= >and the Compaq C RTL memory allocation routines is no longermA >problematic (although LIB$SHOW_VM can no longer be used to track:% >Compaq C RTL malloc and free usage).E  / Ok, now I understand the question a bit better.   E The LIB$SHOW_VM... routines are designed to work with the LIB$ memory2H management mechanisms.  C's malloc() does not use the LIB$ mechanism, soF it is invisible to the LIB$ info routines.  Again, see the Programming Concepts manual.  I I haven't used the heap analyzer with recent versions of C.  I don't know H if C's memory routines are visible to the heap analyzer.  If not, then I/ think someone made a very poor design decision.S  E >My question is: What do I use instead of LIB$SHOW_VM if it no longerm >can be used??  D I don't know if C provides a mechanism.  You might find a unixy toolB ported to VMS, but I don't know of one offhand.  I don't know what5 "purify" does, except what I can guess from the name.3  H One of the recommendations in the other sources I referenced is to avoid= direct use of malloc() and free(), becuase they are so weakly G instrumented.  Either use the LIB$ routines, or write your own wrappers:I around malloc() and free().  Your routines can use fenceposts, poisoning,7F reference counts, and other techniques to aid debugging.  This kind of8 toolkit is very useful, and can be made fairly portable.  J The quickest way to fix your immediate problem might be to define your ownI malloc() and free() using the LIB$ VM routines.  You could leave the bulk1H of your code unchanged, but still use the LIB$ tools to help you debug. A When you are "done" debugging, you could revert to the standard C$H routines.  This isn't portable, and you'd prefer even more debug supportJ than LIB$ provides on it's own.  But don't let "perfect" get in the way of& "good enough" for the problem at hand.   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Jan 2003 07:00:48 GMT- From: djweath@attglobal.net (Dave Weatherall) 7 Subject: Re: Most common OpenVMS versions in use today?s5 Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-L4hGxoDtwi4c@localhost>g  C On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:48:34 UTC, David M Smith <dsmit115@csc.com> h wrote:  P > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:44:31 -0400, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> > wrote: > N > >I would think that 5.5-2 and 7.2 would be the most common. Anyone who movedQ > >beyond 5.5-2 would have been likely to continue to move at least until 7.2 (orgP > >7.2-1) in MY opinion. 7.3 removes functionality, so I suspect 7.2 will become  > >the new "5.5-2" landing spot.  A I've lost the post that asked me the question but the poster was lC indeed correct. My brain had put the 4 in the wrong place. We only aE dropped 5.5-2H4 last year, not 5-5.4. I must correct that VDD before   it gets distributed :-)t  B To comment on the above, I suspect the poster is correct. We will F build everything again on 7.1, Q/A the images on 7.2 and then move to F 7.2 as our base version and continue development from there. 6.2 will > be dropped as soon as I complete the current round of changes.   -- i Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:05:09 -0000t' From: "David Gray" <police@spamcop.net>e Subject: Re: Moving CMS 1 Message-ID: <PMacnZXaZf67iKSjXTWc3w@giganews.com>n  D Yep the original lib was created eons ago, without extended filename support. Thanks, 	     Dave.I  3 "Mickalide" <mickalide@empire.net> wrote in messageh# news:3E388985.2080206@empire.net...rE > The error you are getting has to do with ODS5  file structure.  The J > library you are restoring  was created  before extended filename supportG > was added to CMS.  You need to check to see  how CMS was installed onCG > the target system. I am not sure when you install CMS on an ODS5 disk"I > if  extended filename support is automatically selected.  You can check= > the release notes for 4.1." > about extended filename support. >O	 >   -Jim-g >t >< >T >  > David Gray wrote:  >  > >Greetings all,b > >eH > >Having problems with CMS libraries that have been moved from an Alpha 4000! > >server (CMS Version V3.9-2) to>+ > >an Alpha Server ES45 (CMS Version V4.1).S > >>L > >Using a VMS saveset backup the files have been moved to the new platform.' > >Using the command $CMS SHOW LIB/FULLiJ > >I have verified CMS is looking in the correct place for the library but the.& > >reference copy device is incorrect. > >> > >For example:a > >1. > >On the old server the reference copy was...; > >    REFERENCE_COPY directory is DISK$DRIVE2:[XPS_REFLIB]" > >_6 > >On the new server the reference copy needs to be...3 > >    REFERENCE_COPY directory is JD4:[XPS_REFLIB]2 > >aI > >The CMS command $CMS MOD LIB /REFERENCE=JD4:[XPS_REFLIB] throws up the  > >following error.t% > >CMS> mod lib /ref=JD4:[HLP_REFLIB]- > >_Remark: New location< > >%CMS-E-NOMODIFY, error modifying library JD4:[HLP_CMSLIB]K > >-CMS-E-NOEXTENDEDREF, extended filenames are not available for referencee > >copy directoryh > >eL > >How can I change the device for this reference copy lib without resorting > >to... > >b* > >    $ Define/sys DISK$DRIVE2:      JD4: > >D > >? > >f? > >$CMS VERIFY obviously throws up lots of errors regarding thel reference_copy.r > >e@ > >Also tried modding the lib using the /extended_file qualifier& > >CMS> mod lib /extended_filenames ""< > >%CMS-E-NOMODIFY, error modifying library JD4:[HLP_CMSLIB]: > >-CMS-E-NOEXTENDED, extended filenames are not available > >n > >Thanks in advance,  > >    Dave. > >  > >OpenVMS  is V7.3-1  > >- > >-% > >Your CMS library list consists of:2 > >2 > >JD4:[HLP_CMSLIB]v > >    and containsr > >v > >        868 elementsl > >          0 groupsa > >          1 class > >          0 reservations & > >          0 concurrent replacements > >          0 reviews pending > > ; > >    REFERENCE_COPY directory is DISK$DRIVE2:[HLP_REFLIB]n > >a7 > >    Library attributes are:  /Revision_time=Original + > >                             /ConcurrentT' > >                             /Nokeep 5 > >                             /Noextended_filenames 3 > >                             /Long_variant_namesE > >  > >  > >c > >U >    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 08:51:59 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>/ Subject: Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beere5 Message-ID: <20030130085159.1538.qmail@gacracker.org>   C On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, John Brandon <John.Brandon@dalsemi.com> wrote:V/ >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"a > K >I am having MS Exchange and client problems - I am sending as "Plain text"j& >and the server refuses to believe me.  D Oh it believes you, but it's so worried that people might think yourI text-only message is uninportant because it is so small. Duplicating what-E you write and embedding it in HTML resolves this. It also brings yours- message into line with M$ dictated standards.3   >My NT admins could care less.  3 Obviously they don't follow any mailing lists then.i  2 >So I will look for better ways to resolve this.    E See if you can get access to a news feed as opposed to access via thee
 mailing list.p     Doc. -- /: Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...K ~ VAXman                                             https://vmsbox.cjb.neto   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:09:04 +0100 (MET)s9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>o/ Subject: Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beer-; Message-ID: <01KRUBYWLDPE8WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   G > See if you can get access to a news feed as opposed to access via the. > mailing list..  C Provided  he has a newsreader which doesn't post MIME garbage.  :-|a  A Another alternative: stay on Infovax, but access it via VMS MAIL.D   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 10:31:18 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>/ Subject: Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beeri5 Message-ID: <20030130103118.4608.qmail@gacracker.org>i  H On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote:H >> See if you can get access to a news feed as opposed to access via the >> mailing list. >$D >Provided  he has a newsreader which doesn't post MIME garbage.  :-|  K This message is MIME (deliberately). But it's MIME 8-bit, not that godawful  Quoted-Printable.a  B >Another alternative: stay on Infovax, but access it via VMS MAIL.  J You don't think the NT people would let him send out mail that they didn't get to look at do you? :-)  H Seriously though, the odds are that only M$ systems get direct access toF the outside world. So show the NT admins the various microsoft supportI groups available on Usenet. If you can convince them a small, restricted,uK newsfeed could be useful to them, getting comp.os.vms included shouldn't be  impossible.e     Doc. -- u: Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...K ~ VAXman                                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net*   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 09:58:26 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)A/ Subject: Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beer_3 Message-ID: <9LApBAJUpoOd@eisner.encompasserve.org>   w In article <01KRUBYWLDPE8WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes: H >> See if you can get access to a news feed as opposed to access via the >> mailing list. > E > Provided  he has a newsreader which doesn't post MIME garbage.  :-|  > C > Another alternative: stay on Infovax, but access it via VMS MAIL.m  5    Get an account on eisner and use VMS to access it.m   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:08:47 -0700S6 From: "Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam>/ Subject: Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beere1 Message-ID: <Pla_9.381$HP6.15571@news.uswest.net>   K There is a setting in the Exchange Internet connector to force all messages J to plain text when they go through this connector.  You can also force allI incoming messages to a fixed pitch font.  You Exchange Admins just aren'tvK looking very hard.  This setting's location varies from version to version,  however.  
 Mike Ober.  A "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message / news:20030130085159.1538.qmail@gacracker.org... E > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, John Brandon <John.Brandon@dalsemi.com> wrote: 1 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"l > > G > >I am having MS Exchange and client problems - I am sending as "Plainm text"e( > >and the server refuses to believe me. >tF > Oh it believes you, but it's so worried that people might think yourK > text-only message is uninportant because it is so small. Duplicating whatDG > you write and embedding it in HTML resolves this. It also brings your / > message into line with M$ dictated standards.y >l  > >My NT admins could care less. >K5 > Obviously they don't follow any mailing lists then.  >.2 > >So I will look for better ways to resolve this. >&G > See if you can get access to a news feed as opposed to access via the  > mailing list.S >l >f > Doc. > --< > Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...
 > ~ VAXman https://vmsbox.cjb.net   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:10:11 -0700g6 From: "Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam>/ Subject: Re: My e-mail sucks and I owe you beera1 Message-ID: <7na_9.382$HP6.15654@news.uswest.net>(  L Outlook Express can do this, you just have to tell it on Tools->Options Send Tab.  The default is HTML.  
 Mike Ober.  F "Phillip Helbig" <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in message5 news:01KRUBYWLDPE8WW5NX@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com..._I > > See if you can get access to a news feed as opposed to access via ther > > mailing list.  > E > Provided  he has a newsreader which doesn't post MIME garbage.  :-|a >=C > Another alternative: stay on Infovax, but access it via VMS MAIL.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:09:57 GMTe3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond)d* Subject: Re: Removing UCX from VMS system.0 Message-ID: <p7c_9.127$ux2.119@news.cpqcorp.net>  i In article <YmOdnb6J9rIo9KWjXTWcow@brightview.com>, "Jefferson Humber" <matrix01@globalnet.co.uk> writes: 	 >Charlie,$ >d0 >Would this be the same for removing DECnet too.       Yes.   >_> >I tried to do this today and got a similar message from PCSI. >-M >Is PRODUCT REMOVE the right way to uninstall DECnet from and Alpha v.7.3 boxo >? >h >Cheers, >l >Jeff  >j >:A >"Charlie Hammond" <hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com> wrote in messageR) >news:QnSZ9.29$zB1.26@news.cpqcorp.net...<@ >> In article <57136ccc.0301290348.141d6c62@posting.google.com>,. >steve.spires@torex.com (Steve Spires) writes: >> >Hi chaps and chapesses,, >> >? >> >I want [need?!?] to remove UCX from an existing system. ...m >> ..e >> >$ prod show prod@ >> >----------------------------------- ----------- ------------9 >> >PRODUCT                             KIT TYPE    STATE @ >> >----------------------------------- ----------- ------------= >> >DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.3     Full LP     Installedr= >> >DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-6           Full LP     Installedo= >> >DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3             Platform    InstalledP= >> >DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.2-21              Full LP     Installed6= >> >DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3                 Oper System Installedn@ >> >----------------------------------- ----------- ------------ >> ..s >> > >> >$ prod remove ucxy >> >, >> >The following product has been selected:> >> >    DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.2-21                 Layered Product >> >" >> >Do you want to continue? [YES] >> >G >> >%PCSI-W-OPTREF, product DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.2-21 is referenced by DECv >> >AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3tB >> >-PCSI-W-OPTRF1, this software dependency is expressed within a >> >configuration ? >> >-PCSI-W-OPTRF2,   option that is currently selected for the  >> >referencing productdI >> >-PCSI-W-OPTRF3, if you want to reconfigure the referencing product ore
 >> >reviewF >> >-PCSI-W-OPTRF4,   its configuration requirements, answer NO to the
 >> >following-F >> >-PCSI-W-OPTRF5,   question to terminate this operation; if you are >> >sure you want<J >> >-PCSI-W-OPTRF6,   to remove the referenced product, then answer YES to >> >proceedc% >> >Do you want to continue? [YES] noc >> ..  >>? >> At this point, you should have answered "YES" (the default).l >>H >> You get this message because UCX V4.2-21 was installed as part of theI >> OpenVMS platform, along with the OpenVMS Operating System.  So not thet6 >> PCSI database show that the platform refrences UCX. >>C >> To see this, set your screen to 132 cols and execute the commandd >>& >>     $ PRODUCT SHOW PRODUCT * / FULL >>G >> This will add "MAINTENANCE" (patches) and "REFERENCED BY" columns toeB >> the display.  In the "REFRENCED BY" column for UCX you will see >> >>     DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3 >>H >> BTW, UCX versions of TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS are way out of date.H >> Consider the more recent versions, which call themselves TCPIP rather >> than UCX0 >>J >> One final thing.  Check your SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM.  If you have code there, >> to start UCX, you will need to remove it. >> >> --gL >>       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Pompano Beach  FL USAK >>        (hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net -- remove "@not" when replying)hM >>       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.a >> >y >e >a   -- aI       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Pompano Beach  FL USA H        (hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Jan 2003 14:34:08 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Rogues Galleryh6 Message-ID: <b1bd4t$121m66$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>  @ I have often wondered who the people featured in many of the old@ DEC books were.  Is there any chance a "Rogues Gallery" could be? created (I am willing to scan and put up the pictures on my webr> page) and some of our "old-timers" from Digital could identify? them for posterity??  Or were they all actually models in poseds? shots rather than the candid office photos they look like??  Is = it possible some of our more famous (infamous?) group members0+ are actually pictured in these tomes??  :-)    bill   -- sJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   n   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:15:58 +0100 (MET)a9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>  Subject: Re: Rogues GalleryM; Message-ID: <01KRUQNTWZTU9GV63L@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   B > I have often wondered who the people featured in many of the oldB > DEC books were.  Is there any chance a "Rogues Gallery" could beA > created (I am willing to scan and put up the pictures on my web @ > page) and some of our "old-timers" from Digital could identifyA > them for posterity??  Or were they all actually models in posedlA > shots rather than the candid office photos they look like??  Isn? > it possible some of our more famous (infamous?) group membersy- > are actually pictured in these tomes??  :-)o  D At one place I used to work, someone had put up the cover of a book H which said something like "VAX: Architecture for the 80's" and featured G a couple of young people in a computer room (which somehow reminded me  G of the scantily clad women in some motorcycle magazines).  Underneath,  6 someone had penciled in "...and fashions for the 70s".  B To be fair, though, Mr. Gates and company did manage to start out F looking OK (sort of like the shots of the audience in the sheet-music ) book of Pink Floyd's WISH YOU WERE HERE):r  >    http://www.astro.multivax.de:8000/helbig/gifs/microsoft.jpg   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 17:33:06 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> Subject: Re: Rogues Galleryr6 Message-ID: <20030130173306.18950.qmail@gacracker.org>  H On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote:   <snip>  C >To be fair, though, Mr. Gates and company did manage to start out hG >looking OK (sort of like the shots of the audience in the sheet-music h* >book of Pink Floyd's WISH YOU WERE HERE): > ? >   http://www.astro.multivax.de:8000/helbig/gifs/microsoft.jpgs  / Somebody recently pointed this one out to me...h  : <URL:http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/gatesmug1.html>  1 I'm sure a few here will get a chuckle out of it.      Doc. -- l: Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...K ~ VAXman                                             https://vmsbox.cjb.netr   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:39:05 +0100-  From: legeard <legeard@ganil.fr>( Subject: server SSH-1.5 on  openvms 7.31' Message-ID: <3E394719.5060301@ganil.fr>i   Hellot   Hellot    : I've try to install my ssh server on a alpha open vms 7.31# All installations are OK ( i think)M openssln
 netlib 2.3 ssh_serv SSH-1.5-OSU_1.5alpha6  J ssh client works with "FISH" (for example : i can reach a ssh linux server% the compilation of SSH-SERVER ( is OK H The generation of keys are OK ( with ssh_server_startup.com INITIAL_KEY)# But the server don't want to work .l   And the test give        @ SSH_SERVER_STARTUP.COM testx  5 $! Determine mode we are in, based upon process name.,0 $  ssh_startup_proc = f$environment("PROCEDURE") $!H $  home_dir = f$parse("1.1;1",ssh_startup_proc,,,"NO_CONCEAL") - "1.1;1"% $  proc_name = f$getjpi("0","PRCNAM")t $  p1_arg = f$element(1,"=",p1)i $  p_1 = f$element(0,"=",p1)F $  if proc_name .eqs. "SSH bootstrap" .or. P_1 .eqs. "TEST" then goto 
 run_server
 $ run_server: & $   decnet_node = f$getsyi("NODENAME")= $   if .not. f$getdvi("_NET:","EXISTS") then decnet_node = ""e> $   if f$type(test_port) .nes. "INTEGER" then test_port = "22" $   if p_1 .eqs. "TEST"o $   then4 $      if p2 .nes. "" then test_port = f$integer(p2) $   else	 $   endif> $!C $!   Run program in loop to automatically recover from errors, only = $!   restart however if program ran for more than 10 minutes.h $!. $ define ssh_home_dir $3$DKB102:[SSH.SSH_SERV]> $ if f$type(ssh_exec_cmd) .eqs. "" then ssh_exec_cmd = "@" + -3         f$parse("sshexec.com;","sys$sylogin") - ";" > $ define sshcryptoshr $3$DKB102:[SSH.SSH_SERV]sshcryptoshr.exeD %DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of SSHCRYPTOSHR has been superseded0 $ param_file = "ssh_home_dir:ssh_parameters.dat". $ if p1_arg .nes. "=" then param_file = p1_arg $ server_restart:t' $    on warning then goto error_restart * $    restart_after = f$cvtime("+00:10:00")0 $    mcr $3$DKB102:[SSH.SSH_SERV]ssh_server.exe  ssh_home_dir:ssh_parameters.dat D main thread: SSH-1.5-OSU_1.5alpha6 server initializing, 30-JAN-2003  15:46:54.26>3 main thread: Process initiator startup status: 1 ''u) main thread: rsa_engine startup status: 1 + main thread: Error creating server context:v %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort $ exit $status   what do think about this  	 Thank Luc    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 06:27:00 -0800' From: geff@excite.com (geff@excite.com) $ Subject: Re: Submit at end of month?= Message-ID: <2119a17f.0301300627.1d6afa79@posting.google.com>e  G Say 6 PM on the last day of each month.  I really appreciate your help!C    U Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message news:<3E38C19B.DFF5A08A@aaa.com>...t, > OK, but then, in the beginning of 31-Jan ? > Or at the end of 31-JAN ?o > At lunch time ?a/ > Or just about anytime during the 24h period ?f >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm.f >  > "geff@excite.com" wrote: > > 3 > > I'm sorry - I mean 31-JAN, 28-FEB, 31-MAR, etc.  > > Y > > Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message news:<3E3846C0.510585BD@aaa.com>...r   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:20:50 GMTr# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>t$ Subject: Re: Submit at end of month?I Message-ID: <mpb_9.161980$ej1.83632@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>a  " <geff@excite.com> wrote in message7 news:2119a17f.0301292159.201411cc@posting.google.com...-1 > I'm sorry - I mean 31-JAN, 28-FEB, 31-MAR, etc.. >r  : Do you want to be able to handle Feb. 29th in a leap year?  > It is much easier to deal with 00:00 on the 1st of each month.  E If you need your data consistent as of the 'close of business' on the ? 'last' day of the month (business day, calendar day, accountingeE period - some companies use the last Friday of every month), and yourpB db isn't huge and you don't have adequate timestamps on your data,C take a snapshot of the data and run your reports/jobs against that.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:38:41 GMT 1 From: "Barry in Indy" <barrymeindy@ameritech.net>a$ Subject: Re: Submit at end of month?= Message-ID: <lyc_9.269$4y4.279223@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>c  A Well, the following will tell you if today is the last day of thee month:  * $ MONTH_TODAY = F$CVTIME("TODAY",,"MONTH")0 $ MONTH_TOMORROW = F$CVTIME("TOMORROW",,"MONTH")8 $ IF MONTH_TODAY .NES. MONTH_TOMORROW THEN GOTO LAST_DAY   -- :
 Barry in Indyo   Knock me out to replye   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 09:22:18 -0800+ From: spamdump@mccready.com (Gary McCready)Q$ Subject: Re: Submit at end of month?< Message-ID: <ffd79a6c.0301300922.388d726@posting.google.com>  C You'll find the following, in several lines, will do the trick. OnewB could probably do it in one line, but at least the logic should beB visible in the following, especially with verify on (keep in mind,F line breaks may vary). Feel free to plug in test dates in td (defaults to today if left blank):   $td=p1& $!lets get the first day of this monthL $ftm="1-"+f$cvtime(td,"absolute","month")+"-"+f$cvtime(td,"absolute","year")C $!add 32 days, to get the next month, or 64 for the following month ` $fnm="1-"+f$cvtime("''ftm'+32-","absolute","month")+"-"+f$cvtime("''ftm'+32-","absolute","year")< $!now subtract a day, to get the last day of the prior month, $ltm=f$cvtime("''fnm'-1-","absolute","date") $write sys$output ltm   l geff@excite.com (geff@excite.com) wrote in message news:<2119a17f.0301292159.201411cc@posting.google.com>...1 > I'm sorry - I mean 31-JAN, 28-FEB, 31-MAR, etc.> > W > Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message news:<3E3846C0.510585BD@aaa.com>...?$ > > What is "end-of-month" exactly ?, > > Would 00:00 the first of each month do ?& > > That's easier to make up, I think. > >  > > Jan-Erik Sderholm > >  > > "geff@excite.com" wrote: > > > J > > > I need a job to run on the end of the month then resubmit itself forG > > > the end of next month.  I found something in the newsgroup awhile K > > > back.  Does this function look like it would handle it (including FEB % > > > and DEC)?  Thanks for any info.h > > >  > > > $ end_of_month = -w > > > f$cvtime("01-''f$cvtime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","MONTH")'-''f$cvtime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","YEAR")'-1-","ABSOLUTE")m   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:12:20 -0000n! From: Z  <zarlenga@conan.ids.net> $ Subject: Re: Submit at end of month?/ Message-ID: <v3in7kecc7qn99@corp.supernews.com>   ( geff@excite.com <geff@excite.com> wrote:F : I need a job to run on the end of the month then resubmit itself forC : the end of next month.  I found something in the newsgroup awhile.G : back.  Does this function look like it would handle it (including FEBb! : and DEC)?  Thanks for any info.s  B Look ahead one day with a delta time and see if the month changes.  F If it does, you're on the last day, so run teh code.  Otherwise, check again tomorrow.(   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Jan 2003 11:09 CDTo' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) $ Subject: Re: Submit at end of month?- Message-ID: <30JAN200311091091@gerg.tamu.edu>'  ' "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes...h# }<geff@excite.com> wrote in message 8 }news:2119a17f.0301292159.201411cc@posting.google.com...2 }> I'm sorry - I mean 31-JAN, 28-FEB, 31-MAR, etc. }> } ; }Do you want to be able to handle Feb. 29th in a leap year?o } ? }It is much easier to deal with 00:00 on the 1st of each month.   G The DCL posted earlier will work fine to get the last day of the month.e@ It will deal with leap years just fine. It will work every time.  & Here it is again. It is pretty clever.   $ end_of_month = f$cvtime("01-''f$cvtime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","MONTH")'-''f$cvtime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","YEAR")'-1-","ABSOLUTE")  8 It is feeding the f$cvtime lexical a time string that is) 1) day 1 (via that leading literal "01-")sL 2) of the month that is 30 days after the 15th day of this month (that's theJ month returned by the f$cvtime(-"15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","MONTH") - this willL always work because every month has at least 15 days in it and 30 days after- that is never past the end of the next month)iF 3) of the year that the next month is in (same thing but with "YEAR"),I 4) and then it subtracts off a day (that trailing "-1-" - the last day of A this month is always the day before the first day of next month).V  ) There is no case when this will not work.p  I If you want a specific time on that day other than "00:00:00.00", all youWJ have to do is add the third parameter as "DATE" and stick the desired time on the end of it, like so:   $ end_of_month =f$cvtime("01-''f$cvtime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","MONTH")'-''f$cvtime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","YEAR")'-1-","ABSOLUTE","DATE") -   + ":18:00:00.00"  J and you now have 6pm of the last day of the current month. (The ":" beforeJ the "18" could be a space instead, but I have occasionally found it easier to use this way.)o  I If you want a version that doesn't wrap and is perhaps slightly easier to  follow, here's one:   6 $ next_month = F$CvTime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","MONTH"); $ next_months_year = F$CvTime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","YEAR")_ $ last_day_of_this_month = -K     F$CvTime("01-''next_month'-''next_months_year'-1-", "ABSOLUTE", "DATE")o  L SO now you have the date, tack on any time string you want to the end of it.   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:58:02 -0500$& From: David M Smith <dsmit115@csc.com>$ Subject: Re: Submit at end of month?8 Message-ID: <68pi3vs4o1tc9ui3pe1924ga40b05vvmg0@4ax.com>  G On 29 Jan 2003 13:13:15 -0800, geff@excite.com (geff@excite.com) wrote:   E >I need a job to run on the end of the month then resubmit itself for.B >the end of next month.  I found something in the newsgroup awhileF >back.  Does this function look like it would handle it (including FEB  >and DEC)?  Thanks for any info. >  >u >$ end_of_month = -Cr >f$cvtime("01-''f$cvtime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","MONTH")'-''f$cvtime("15--+30-","ABSOLUTE","YEAR")'-1-","ABSOLUTE")  P This looks like it will return a date/time string of the last day of the currentL month -- but you want next month, right? If I interpret the above expressionK correctly, you are trying to "capture" the month and year of a date 30 daysnL ahead of the 15th of this month. It seems to me if you make the delta bigger then you can get what you want.t  M I'd be tempted to express it as a delta from the first of the month, and makeiI the delta something like 63 (to accomodate two 31-day months, for example > december and January). Then it might look something like this:   $ end_of_month = -k f$cvt("1-''f$cvt("1--+63-","absolute","month")'-''f$cvt("1--+63-","absolute","year")'-1","absolute","date")>   On my system, I get:   $ show timee   30-JAN-2003 12:55:55 $ end_of_month = - _$k f$cvt("1-''f$cvt("1--+63-","absolute","month")'-''f$cvt("1--+63-","absolute","year")'-1","absolute","date")f $ show symbol end_of_month   END_OF_MONTH = "28-FEB-2003"  E You can use it in a SUBMIT command with the time of your choice, e.g.S  4 	$ SUBMIT 'procedure' /AFTER="''end_of_month' 18:00"I -------------------------------------------------------------------------uI David M. Smith 302.391.8533                       dsmit115 at csc dot comiI Computer Sciences Corporation     (Opinions are those of the writer only)nI -------------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 09:39:37 -0800' From: danthemanthatjams@yahoo.com (Dan)h Subject: Touchdown OpenVMS! = Message-ID: <a5de6471.0301300939.19e7124a@posting.google.com>f  
 Greetings!  D I just had a conversation with my CIO about secure solutions for our online< apps. I guess this latest round of worms has sparked similar conversations.  B We have a few VMS servers that have never been hacked, and several
 other serversnE that seem to get hacked on a regular basis (public web server, email,dE etc... ). We use Apache (CSWS) on OpenVMS for our secure applicationso+ that could have over 4,000 potential users.d  E The conversation was about what else Apache on the Alpha system couldBD do for us. I now have some  homework to do. My CEO even knew that itF was possible to run ASPs on Apache for VMS (chili-soft?) and I did not= (because I previously did not care for ASPs because ASP=IIS).   ) I thought this would encourage the group.L  A By the way, does anyone use OpenVMS/Apache to secure online video / communications? One of my homework questions...R   Dan3   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:39:36 +0100E6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> Subject: Re: Touchdown OpenVMS!3) Message-ID: <3E397168.8000303@vajhoej.dk>I  
 Dan wrote:G > The conversation was about what else Apache on the Alpha system couldGF > do for us. I now have some  homework to do. My CEO even knew that itH > was possible to run ASPs on Apache for VMS (chili-soft?) and I did not? > (because I previously did not care for ASPs because ASP=IIS).s   A few comments:0  A 1)  Chillisoft do supply ASP for Apache, but I never heard it wasa      available for VMS.   = 2)  ASP is being retired and replaced by ASP.NET, which AFAIKl!      Chillisoft does not support.e  8 3)  I would definatetly go for either JSP or PHP instead)      of ASP in a non-Windows environment.h   Arne   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:35:01 GMTt- From: bdc@world.std.com (Brian 'Jarai' Chase)s< Subject: Re: Trouble with ext. CD-ROM on VAXstation 4000/VLC& Message-ID: <H9IqID.4s8@world.std.com>  , In article <b18k4i$50q$1@reader1.panix.com>,0 John Forkosh  <john@SeeSigForAddress.com> wrote:  < > Off topic, but are the new vax hobbyist cd's shipping now?1 > How long will it take to arrive after ordering?m  H I got mine last week.  IIRC, it was only about a week between the time IE ordered it and the time that it arrived; I used PayPal to pay for it.    -brian.2 -- aF --- Brian Chase | bdc@world.std.com | http://world.std.com/~bdc/ -----5                    Do not fold, mutilate, or spindle.e   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Jan 2003 07:00:47 GMT- From: djweath@attglobal.net (Dave Weatherall)s9 Subject: VAX linker /$objdef documentation inconsistency. 5 Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-chDlSUrxmdJy@localhost>S  E Yesterday I was adding some new features to the Host assembler suite mF that I maintain. Although the target processor is not a VAX, I do use F the VAX object format. Mainly because its the best that I had seen andE it allows my linker to use VMS Object libraries ,which in turn saves  D me from writing a librarian. Anyway, I added an assembler directive E that needs to store a long word. In the Linker manual, the symbol is t
 defined as :-e  
 	TIR$C_STO_LWu  F Assembled it and tried to link. The link failed with the message that # the above symbol is undefined! Eh?!   E I check spelling, ensured my O was not 0, all to now avail. Hm. So I oF extracted $objdef from STARLET.MLB and lo and behold, there is no such definition. However, there is    	TIR$C_STO_L  F which looks right. I changed my code linked it, no error and assembled my Spirit-III source file.  F Using ANALYZE /OBJ showed that the code was present in the new object B module, albeit with the _LW format for the store long instruction.  F Which is at fault, the Linker manual or $objdef? I did check the AlphaD section of the Linker manual but can't remember what I found. I was B concentrating on making my code work correctly, which it now does.  0 Thanks VMS for, mostly, making such things easy.  F Almost forgot, the above applies to VMS 6.2 VAX. As I sit here I can'tE remember whether the Alpha version of $objdef that I checked was 6.2  	 or 7.1-2.J   --     Cheers - Dave.  F PS I suspect there aren't that many people out there that use $objdef  :-)    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:43:53 GMTk" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG= Subject: Re: VAX linker /$objdef documentation inconsistency.e0 Message-ID: <00A1ABB3.6ED05527@SendSpamHere.ORG>  e In article <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-chDlSUrxmdJy@localhost>, djweath@attglobal.net (Dave Weatherall) writes:gF >Yesterday I was adding some new features to the Host assembler suite G >that I maintain. Although the target processor is not a VAX, I do use aG >the VAX object format. Mainly because its the best that I had seen and F >it allows my linker to use VMS Object libraries ,which in turn saves E >me from writing a librarian. Anyway, I added an assembler directive nF >that needs to store a long word. In the Linker manual, the symbol is  >defined as :- >l >	TIR$C_STO_LW >oG >Assembled it and tried to link. The link failed with the message that  $ >the above symbol is undefined! Eh?! >hF >I check spelling, ensured my O was not 0, all to now avail. Hm. So I G >extracted $objdef from STARLET.MLB and lo and behold, there is no suchc >definition. However, there is c >t
 >	TIR$C_STO_Lt >tG >which looks right. I changed my code linked it, no error and assembledi >my Spirit-III source file.g > G >Using ANALYZE /OBJ showed that the code was present in the new object dC >module, albeit with the _LW format for the store long instruction.c >tG >Which is at fault, the Linker manual or $objdef? I did check the AlphaeE >section of the Linker manual but can't remember what I found. I was eC >concentrating on making my code work correctly, which it now does.r >s1 >Thanks VMS for, mostly, making such things easy.e > G >Almost forgot, the above applies to VMS 6.2 VAX. As I sit here I can't<F >remember whether the Alpha version of $objdef that I checked was 6.2 
 >or 7.1-2.  G The documentation lists this the value of the TIR$C_STO_LW symbol as 22rG which is the same as the value of TIR$C_STO_L found in $OBJECT (on bothU@ VAX and Alpha).  So, I suspect that it is a simple typo error.      G >PS I suspect there aren't that many people out there that use $objdef o >:-)  H Not for writing my own object but I do used it in SYMBOL which reads the" object format for various reasons.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMs            [5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" c   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:10:28 -0500 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)= Subject: Re: VAX linker /$objdef documentation inconsistency.iL Message-ID: <rdeininger-3001030710280001@user-2ive38l.dialup.mindspring.com>  5 In article <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-chDlSUrxmdJy@localhost>,E. djweath@attglobal.net (Dave Weatherall) wrote:   ...   2 >Which is at fault, the Linker manual or $objdef?   J Dunno what might have been intended originally, but changing $OBJDEF wouldH potentially break code, while changing the docs would not.  So I suspect2 the documentation would be corrected in this case.  E I suggest you check the manual for VMS 7.3, and if the error is stilli? present, report it to the VMS doc contact.  Let HP sort it out.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:57:13 GMTf" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG% Subject: Re: VMS @25 CD now available 0 Message-ID: <00A1ABCE.70FE30A2@SendSpamHere.ORG>  b In article <b1bbh9$3ak$1@web1.cup.hp.com>, "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@hp.nospam.com> writes:K >this is the 5th note in 2 days to the newsgroup, I hope this one makes it.i >----Original Message----- >From: Skonetski, Susan  > ) >Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:04 AMC >  >To: Skonetski, Susan2 >L& >Subject: OpenVMS @25 CD now available >  >Folks,v >oM >I really recommend this CD, there is an excellent statement of HP commitment L >to VMS from Carly at the end. This is a keeper and excellent for customers.J >Many thanks go to Marc Courchesne and Jim Rainville for the excellent job >they did on this? >- >Warm Regards, >  >Sue   So how do I get one?  I My guess is that it isn't usable on the platform it touts but what the...-        = >New CD Celebrates 25 years of OpenVMS engineering excellenceg >aE >Celebrating 25 years and beyond of engineering excellence, the newlyoK >produced CD OpenVMS@25 <mailto:OpenVMS@25> still exceeding expectations isg*                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^K >now available. The CD includes a video which is equal parts recognition ofsH >the achievements of the developers and current engineers of the OpenVMSH >operating system; the evolution of an operating system that led it fromH >being a primary a technical operating system, to a commercial operatingE >system, to a high-availability, mission-critical enterprise businessuH >operating system; and a look ahead to the future with the roadmaps thatL >exemplify HP's long-term commitment to OpenVMS. To reinforce these messagesH >are on-camera appearances from Carly Fiorina, HP CEO, Mark Gorham, ViceI >President of OpenVMS Systems, and Terry Shannon, an industry analyst who E >closely watched the advances of OpenVMS over the past 25 years. Also-J >included on the CD is an OpenVMS@25 <mailto:OpenVMS@25> screensaver which7                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^a  I >can be downloaded with the click of your mouse. Accompanying the CD is a-M >fanfold booklet which pictorially highlights 25 years of OpenVMS engineering J >milestones. On the back side is an OpenVMS@25 <mailto:OpenVMS@25> poster.A                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  >eI >The new OpenVMS@25 <mailto:OpenVMS@25> CD is already generating a lot of &                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  ) May the wonders of BillyWare never cease.     K >excitement with our customers and the field. The CD is available for orderr. >through the Literature ordering interface at:+ ><http://www.webfulfillment.com/kpcorp/lit>>  K Great page!  Is there any way to get a username/password.  Not that I'd usei( it as the page is not secure (ie. https)    2 >Partners, please enter through Partnership Web US; ><http://partner.americas.hp.com> or Partnership Web Canadau+ ><http://www.hp.ca/pweb/scripts/index.html>e >t >Pub #: 5981-3930ENc  J HP still haven't fixed the /DSPP site such that I can even complete regis-# tration.  How can I order anything?d     --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMh            l5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:05:48 -0500 5 From: "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@hp.nospam.com>n! Subject: VMS @25 CD now available * Message-ID: <b1bbh9$3ak$1@web1.cup.hp.com>  J this is the 5th note in 2 days to the newsgroup, I hope this one makes it. ----Original Message-----e From: Skonetski, Susan  ( Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:04 AM   To: Skonetski, Susan  % Subject: OpenVMS @25 CD now availableA   Folks,  L I really recommend this CD, there is an excellent statement of HP commitmentK to VMS from Carly at the end. This is a keeper and excellent for customers. I Many thanks go to Marc Courchesne and Jim Rainville for the excellent job  they did on this?   
 Warm Regards,s   Suec      < New CD Celebrates 25 years of OpenVMS engineering excellence  D Celebrating 25 years and beyond of engineering excellence, the newlyJ produced CD OpenVMS@25 <mailto:OpenVMS@25> still exceeding expectations isJ now available. The CD includes a video which is equal parts recognition ofG the achievements of the developers and current engineers of the OpenVMSsG operating system; the evolution of an operating system that led it from9G being a primary a technical operating system, to a commercial operatingtD system, to a high-availability, mission-critical enterprise businessG operating system; and a look ahead to the future with the roadmaps thatdK exemplify HP's long-term commitment to OpenVMS. To reinforce these messagesiG are on-camera appearances from Carly Fiorina, HP CEO, Mark Gorham, Vice H President of OpenVMS Systems, and Terry Shannon, an industry analyst whoD closely watched the advances of OpenVMS over the past 25 years. AlsoI included on the CD is an OpenVMS@25 <mailto:OpenVMS@25> screensaver whichcH can be downloaded with the click of your mouse. Accompanying the CD is aL fanfold booklet which pictorially highlights 25 years of OpenVMS engineeringI milestones. On the back side is an OpenVMS@25 <mailto:OpenVMS@25> poster.   H The new OpenVMS@25 <mailto:OpenVMS@25> CD is already generating a lot ofJ excitement with our customers and the field. The CD is available for order- through the Literature ordering interface at:y* <http://www.webfulfillment.com/kpcorp/lit>  1 Partners, please enter through Partnership Web US : <http://partner.americas.hp.com> or Partnership Web Canada* <http://www.hp.ca/pweb/scripts/index.html>   Pub #: 5981-3930EN   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Jan 2003 11:13:58 -0500: From: Ken Robinson <ken.s.robinson.nospam@exxonmobile.com>% Subject: Re: VMS @25 CD now available-; Message-ID: <Xns9313753B81626ksrobinerenjcom@66.150.105.55>M  ' "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in aB news:IAb_9.162052$ej1.158515@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:   > B > "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@hp.nospam.com> wrote in message& > news:b1bbh9$3ak$1@web1.cup.hp.com...   ? > Does the CD carry advance copies of the upcoming print and TVBH > advertising campaign, featuring Carly and Mark, that is being launched@ > for the operating system that HP has such a big commitment to? > G > Oh, I forgot, Microsoft already pays for "those" ads, and Linux needs H > no advertising because HP execs speak about it in every utterance they. > make publicly, unlike the subject of the CD. > F > The longer VMS isn't actively advertised and marketed, the longer itB > will be a marginal entity that the HP Board of Directors will be > tempted to cease funding.S  
 Does this   F <http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/brochures/openvms_brochure.pdf>  I count as new advertising?  True, I have only seen it on the web site and sI not in the wild, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it pop up in some of   the technical media soon.t   Ken Robinson   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:32:56 GMTn# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>o% Subject: Re: VMS @25 CD now available:J Message-ID: <IAb_9.162052$ej1.158515@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  @ "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@hp.nospam.com> wrote in message$ news:b1bbh9$3ak$1@web1.cup.hp.com...B > this is the 5th note in 2 days to the newsgroup, I hope this one	 makes it.> > ----Original Message-----o > From: Skonetski, Susan >m* > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:04 AM >- > To: Skonetski, Susan >-' > Subject: OpenVMS @25 CD now available  >  > Folks, > C > I really recommend this CD, there is an excellent statement of HP-
 commitmentB > to VMS from Carly at the end. This is a keeper and excellent for
 customers.= > Many thanks go to Marc Courchesne and Jim Rainville for the>
 excellent jobV > they did on this?l >o > Warm Regards,  >> > SueV >U >V >-> > New CD Celebrates 25 years of OpenVMS engineering excellence >  > ...to a commercial operatingF > system, to a high-availability, mission-critical enterprise businessD > operating system; and a look ahead to the future with the roadmaps thatD > exemplify HP's long-term commitment to OpenVMS. To reinforce these messagesD > are on-camera appearances from Carly Fiorina, HP CEO, Mark Gorham, Vice+ > President of OpenVMS Systems, and .......>  = Does the CD carry advance copies of the upcoming print and TVyF advertising campaign, featuring Carly and Mark, that is being launched> for the operating system that HP has such a big commitment to?  E Oh, I forgot, Microsoft already pays for "those" ads, and Linux needseF no advertising because HP execs speak about it in every utterance they, make publicly, unlike the subject of the CD.  D The longer VMS isn't actively advertised and marketed, the longer it@ will be a marginal entity that the HP Board of Directors will be tempted to cease funding.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.060 ************************