1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 07 Jul 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 371       Contents:1 Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Assign_9.1_GB_HD=B4s_to_8_GB?= ) Re: Alpha nr. 2 on list of supercomputers  Re: Are HP listening?  Re: Are HP listening? 1 Re: Assign 9.1 GB =?iso-8859-1?Q?HD=B4s?= to 8 GB " Re: OpenVMS 7.3.1 Install problem." Re: OpenVMS 7.3.1 Install problem. Re: Running VMS off CD Re: Running VMS off CDP Re: SNMP Commands (was Re: How do I monitor the CPU temperature in  an         EP Re: SNMP Commands (was Re: How do I monitor the CPU temperature in an         ESJ RE: Tri-architecture cluster demonstrated at DECUS Ottawa Technical UpdateJ Re: Tri-architecture cluster demonstrated at DECUS Ottawa Technical Update( Re: VMS Quality (was: Are HP listening?) Re: what is VMS advanced Server   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 6 Jul 2003 17:38:23 -0700 1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) : Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Assign_9.1_GB_HD=B4s_to_8_GB?== Message-ID: <cf15391e.0307061638.2aae48be@posting.google.com>   r contracer11@uol.com.br (Shiva MahaDeva) wrote in message news:<ddf392ea.0307050434.338e9bbd@posting.google.com>...J >  I want assign all 9.1 GB Hds from 9.1 to 8 GB, to avoit constant crashK >  in this system. Id like to get a procedure to make this modifications,    >  in details. Can you help me ?  C I'd recommend upgrading your version of VMS to V6.0 (the version at F which the 8 GB volume size limit was removed) or a later version.  ButD if you can't do that, then at least for your data disks, you can useE Compaq RAID Software for OpenVMS (formerly StorageWorks RAID Software E for OpenVMS, see http://h71000.www7.hp.com/swcat/us/storwksraid.html) B to partition the disks into smaller pieces which can be handled byA 5.5-2.  Form 1-member RAID-0 arrays from each 9.1 GB disk, in tge @ process creating partitions of 8 GB or less on each RAID-0 arrayC (using the $RAID INITIALIZE command), then bind these RAID-0 arrays B ($RAID BIND) and mount these partitions (regular VMS $MOUNT of theF DPAnnn: device created by the RAID BIND command) and use them to storeE your data.  (This technique cannot be used for system disks, as there F is no support in OpenVMS for booting from a host-software-based RAID-0 or RAID-5 array.)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 22:26:23 -0400 . From: Mike Bartman <omni@foolie.omniphile.com>2 Subject: Re: Alpha nr. 2 on list of supercomputers8 Message-ID: <2emhgvcr9ht908hs839b9gthnb3i02rpmj@4ax.com>  C On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:57:48 +0200, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:   L >An Alpha SC system with 8192 CPU's on 1.25 GHz is the nr. 2 on the list of R >supercomputers. It consists out of ES45 building blocks according to the article Q >in CT. The performance of the system is 13880 Teraflops, the performance of nr.  J >1 (a NEC system) is 35860 Teraflops. The Alpha belongs to the Los Alamos  >National Laboratory.  > D >There is also a Superdome 875 on the list, it is ranked as nr. 172.  D You won't see the vast majority of that speed unless you are workingC on a problem which is very nearly 100% parallel.  Amdahl's Law says F that even a little bit of serialness (like 3%-5%) in your problem willE make massive numbers of processors essentially useless in speeding up A the time to solution...in those cases what you need is a very few  really fast processors.   D Of course, if you have a 100% parallel problem, the more processors, the quicker you get an answer.   -- Mike     @ ----------------------------------------------------------------=   To reply via e-mail, remove the 'foolie.' from the address. %   I'm getting sick of all the SPAM... @ ----------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:13:59 -0700$ From: "Eric Bruno" <eric@ebruno.org> Subject: Re: Are HP listening?0 Message-ID: <HsKdnbIxW4uN6JWiXTWJhw@comcast.com>  < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3F07A23A.6C67B8A8@fsi.net... I > Re: the subject, "Are HP Listening?", experience to date indicates that  > they are/do not. >  > "Doc.Cypher" wrote: 
 > > [snip]1 > > Here's my correspondent's list of suggestions  > > A > > 1.  Get a major application such as SAP running on VMS again.  > H > Get major packages back, like Polycenter. The current poor excuses forJ > system management tools are, at the very least, albatrosses: an absolute8 > disgrace and, at the very best, an industry-wide joke. > F PolyCenter would compete with HP OpenView, the best you could hope for9 IMHO is HP OpenView for OpenVMS under current management.       ; > > 2.  Get Oracle to treat VMS with a little more respect.  > C > That would help, yes. Getting them on board with that could prove E > challenging now that we are seeing the (re-)ascendency of UN*X-like  > platforms. > * > > 3.  Market outside the installed base. > 6 > Always has been and always will be an absolute must. > , > > 4.  Invest in the Educational Programme. > > H > > 5.  Reintroduce lower-cost hardware and offer a low-cost turnkey web server > >     platform.  > D > Even among the staunchest VMS hold outs, I'm finding less and lessI > support for such a scheme. That's funny because a local daily newspaper H > today had aquote from the Dallas Morning News which indicated that theH > "Do Not Call" registry received so many hits during its first hours ofA > operation that the server crashed. The author asked, "Is anyone H > surprised by this?" Of course, I couldn't help but wonder whether thatI > crash could have been avoided by using a VMS-based server that had been ) > properly designed for scale and volume.  >  > --   > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 14:40:45 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: Are HP listening?' Message-ID: <3F087B3D.162AAFB5@fsi.net>    Eric Bruno wrote:  > > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message# > news:3F07A23A.6C67B8A8@fsi.net... K > > Re: the subject, "Are HP Listening?", experience to date indicates that  > > they are/do not. > >  > > "Doc.Cypher" wrote:  > > > [snip]3 > > > Here's my correspondent's list of suggestions  > > > C > > > 1.  Get a major application such as SAP running on VMS again.  > > J > > Get major packages back, like Polycenter. The current poor excuses forL > > system management tools are, at the very least, albatrosses: an absolute: > > disgrace and, at the very best, an industry-wide joke. > > 3 > PolyCenter would compete with HP OpenView, [snip]   B Not directly. PolyCenter wasn't a client/server solution, with theA possible exception of PCM, and was VMS-only: it didn't attempt to < encompass non-VMS systems and/or their management paradigms.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:43:00 -0500 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> : Subject: Re: Assign 9.1 GB =?iso-8859-1?Q?HD=B4s?= to 8 GB3 Message-ID: <3F08D024.66A64931@applied-synergy.com>    Shiva MahaDeva wrote:  > L > In my job Im using a MicroVAX 3100-98 (Personal Workstation), VMS V5.5-2.K >  In this machine I have ~60 GB in SCSI HDs (a tower with 7 9.1 GB HDs). < >  Looking behind this tower , I see BA35X-VA storage model.J >  I want assign all 9.1 GB Hds from 9.1 to 8 GB, to avoit constant crashJ >  in this system. Id like to get a procedure to make this modifications,  >  in details. Can you help me ? >  Thanks in advance...   H If you have some sort of RAID controller between the MV and the BA35X, I= would suggest partitioning the drives in the RAID controller.   H If the drives are connected directly, you can use a package like LD fromC the freeware disks to partition the drives.  I currently do this to # mount some 9GB drives on VMS 5.5-2.   H Note that partitioning software should NOT be done for the system disk. ; For reliability, your system disk MUST be smaller than 8GB.   @ Upgrading to VMS V6.2 or later would remove the 8GB restriction.  
 Good luck!  G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- $ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-3074    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:46:42 -0700$ From: "Eric Bruno" <eric@ebruno.org>+ Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3.1 Install problem. 0 Message-ID: <dDCdnfZTEZVA8pWiXTWJjQ@comcast.com>  < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3F05C9DD.7DEB86F3@fsi.net...  > Eric Bruno wrote:  > > > > > Well I think I found the line that is hanging the install.E > > If reboot the system after the install locks up and boot the disk C > > it does an autogen complains about some missing files but runs.  > > B > > If I try to manually install products they complain VMS is not
 installed.G > > Digging around the forums/newsgroups using information from various  posts 6 > > I determined that a PCSI database was not present. > >  > > So I did the following:  > > , > >  $DIRECTORY/DATE/SIZE SYS$SYSTEM:*.PCSI* > >  > >  This showed show NO files.  > > 4 > >  $DIRECTORY/DATE/SIZE SYS$COMMON:[000000]*.PCSI* > > " > >  This showed these four files: > > 7 > >     DEC-AXPVMS-OPENVMS-V0703-1-5.PCSI$DESCRIPTION;1 / > >     DEC-AXPVMS-OPENVMS-V0703-1-5.PCSI$TLB;1 3 > >     DEC-AXPVMS-VMS-V0703-1-2.PCSI$DESCRIPTION;1 + > >     DEC-AXPVMS-VMS-V0703-1-2.PCSI$TLB;1  >  > Try: > 9 > $ RENAME SYS$COMMON:[000000]*.PCSI* SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]  > J > That should put the files into the correct path and get you going again. >  That did not make a difference.  Thanks for the suggestion.  F Someone was generous enough to put an iso image of  7.2-1 up for me to	 download. H I downloaded the image, burnt the CD installed 7.2-1 with out a problem.      B > FWIW, installing VMS on "unsupported" hardware tends to be a bitJ > challenging. Not sure why - most of this should be "don't care" stuff to > such things. >  > --   > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 14:11:56 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> + Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3.1 Install problem. ' Message-ID: <3F08747C.D73DA36D@fsi.net>    Eric Bruno wrote:  > [snip]H > Someone was generous enough to put an iso image of  7.2-1 up for me to > download. J > I downloaded the image, burnt the CD installed 7.2-1 with out a problem.  D Interesting that it worked at all. AFAIK, VMS's loaders can't handle: ISO-9660 media. I suspect it was an ODS image, not an ISO.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 14:08:16 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: Running VMS off CD ' Message-ID: <3F0873A0.FF0B82F3@fsi.net>    Michael Austin wrote:  >  > Dean Woodward wrote:
 > > [snip]G > > If you run purely from RO media, then the system is invulnerable to E > > having files loaded/changed/replaced. Exploits that tweak running J > > software are still possible, which leads me to a mildly amusing visionI > > of script kiddies trying to crack a VMS box that way. Not saying it's 3 > > impossible, but I bet it'd be damn frustrating.  > J > Hmmm... with a few ACL's and pointing the "read only" logicals to a diskH > that has been mounted /NOWRITE would achieve the same purpose.  Or youE > can hack the startup such that when it "mounts" the system disk, it I > is/NOWRITE... just make sure you have a way to write the dump device...   E Hhmmm... Y'know, I've never thought much about it, but I'd expect the C dump routines to use their own I/O code rather than assume that the F crashed system's DCB for the device is valid, much less worry about itD being considered MOUNTed and/or write enabled by the crashed system.  : Anyone with the source listings CD wanna look that one up?   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 21:57:28 +0100* From: "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> Subject: Re: Running VMS off CD 5 Message-ID: <bea2ov$2mud0$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>   < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3F0873A0.FF0B82F3@fsi.net...  > Michael Austin wrote:  > >  > > Dean Woodward wrote: > > > [snip]I > > > If you run purely from RO media, then the system is invulnerable to G > > > having files loaded/changed/replaced. Exploits that tweak running L > > > software are still possible, which leads me to a mildly amusing visionK > > > of script kiddies trying to crack a VMS box that way. Not saying it's 5 > > > impossible, but I bet it'd be damn frustrating.  > > L > > Hmmm... with a few ACL's and pointing the "read only" logicals to a diskJ > > that has been mounted /NOWRITE would achieve the same purpose.  Or youG > > can hack the startup such that when it "mounts" the system disk, it K > > is/NOWRITE... just make sure you have a way to write the dump device...  > G > Hhmmm... Y'know, I've never thought much about it, but I'd expect the E > dump routines to use their own I/O code rather than assume that the H > crashed system's DCB for the device is valid, much less worry about itF > being considered MOUNTed and/or write enabled by the crashed system. > < > Anyone with the source listings CD wanna look that one up? >   3 The listing CD's will not tell you anything useful. H Vax stores the boot-time drivers from VMB in a protected area of memory.J Alpha uses the SRM console to write the dump, all of it. This includes the console disk drivers. H Having said that, I could do with verifying how memory page selection isE done in a selective dump, as it requires an intimate knowledge of the J current incarnation of VMS to correctly locate each process and gather the. relevant pages into the dumpfile write stream.     -- John Travell  VMS crashdump expertise for hire john@jomatech.com  +44-(0)23-92552229 http://www.jomatech.com/       --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 25/06/2003    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jul 2003 19:15:15 -0700 # From: dooleys@snowy.net.au (dooley) Y Subject: Re: SNMP Commands (was Re: How do I monitor the CPU temperature in  an         E = Message-ID: <1ca82fc6.0307061815.45694de9@posting.google.com>   ` "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message news:<3F0878CE.889AB110@fsi.net>... > Verne wrote: > >  > > >  > > >[snip]  > > >  > > H > > Don't know if this would help, but once I tried some SNMP stuff, andG > > from the on-line help (HELP MULTI SHOW /SNMP) and the Info-Multinet G > > mailing list archives at www.process.com, I came up with (perhaps a  > > trivial example):  > > : > >   mul show /snmp=11.22.33.44/mib=mib-2.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 > >  > > and  > > L > >   mul show /snmp=11.22.33.44/mib=enterprises.11.2.3.9.4.2.2.10.2.1.4.1.1 > > H > > to see the lifetime page counter on a printer... at least this worksH > > on newer HP JetDirect-attached printers, such as the LJ5, LJ4000 and/ > > the LJ2100 (would not work on a III or IV).  > > C > > Sorry, but I forget where I got the MIB variable 'id' from  :-(  > $ > Yeah - discovered those ages ago.  > 4 > $ MULT SHOW/CONN/SNMP=x.x.x.x/MIB_VAR/OUT=filespec > E > ...will list out all the MIB varaibles on the target node and their  > current values.  > # > O.k. Let me try this another way:  > H > I'm looking for a way - from a VMS system running Multinet - to send aE > SNMP trap to a "foreign" system monitoring center (at work, they're  > trying to use Cisco's CIC).  >  > Does *THAT* help?  > H > I *DON'T* want to use the VMS system examine other systems, I want theD > VMS system to be able to alert a "foreign" system when some bit ofG > system administrivia goes awry (disk fills up, shadow-set member gets # > dropped, backup job fails, etc.).  >  > Does *THAT* help? 8 Your "foreign" system admin should be able to tell you -7 the ip address of the system that will receive the trap  the community name to use  the port to use (162?)- the "enterprise" (compaq is 1.3.6.1.4.1.232.) ; the oid to use within 232 to indicate disk full or whatever ' use this link to identify "enterprises" 2 http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/1.3.6.1.4.1.html Phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 14:30:22 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> Y Subject: Re: SNMP Commands (was Re: How do I monitor the CPU temperature in an         ES ' Message-ID: <3F0878CE.889AB110@fsi.net>    Verne wrote: >  > > 	 > >[snip]  > >  > F > Don't know if this would help, but once I tried some SNMP stuff, andE > from the on-line help (HELP MULTI SHOW /SNMP) and the Info-Multinet E > mailing list archives at www.process.com, I came up with (perhaps a  > trivial example):  > 8 >   mul show /snmp=11.22.33.44/mib=mib-2.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 >  > and  > J >   mul show /snmp=11.22.33.44/mib=enterprises.11.2.3.9.4.2.2.10.2.1.4.1.1 > F > to see the lifetime page counter on a printer... at least this worksF > on newer HP JetDirect-attached printers, such as the LJ5, LJ4000 and- > the LJ2100 (would not work on a III or IV).  > A > Sorry, but I forget where I got the MIB variable 'id' from  :-(   " Yeah - discovered those ages ago.   2 $ MULT SHOW/CONN/SNMP=x.x.x.x/MIB_VAR/OUT=filespec  C ...will list out all the MIB varaibles on the target node and their  current values.   ! O.k. Let me try this another way:   F I'm looking for a way - from a VMS system running Multinet - to send aC SNMP trap to a "foreign" system monitoring center (at work, they're  trying to use Cisco's CIC).    Does *THAT* help?   F I *DON'T* want to use the VMS system examine other systems, I want theB VMS system to be able to alert a "foreign" system when some bit ofE system administrivia goes awry (disk fills up, shadow-set member gets ! dropped, backup job fails, etc.).    Does *THAT* help?    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:02:57 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> S Subject: RE: Tri-architecture cluster demonstrated at DECUS Ottawa Technical Update R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB058A93@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   All,  * Just catching up on a mountain of email...  H As the one who co-ordinated the VAX-Alpha-IA64 demo at the Ottawa event,F I would just like to emphasize that we did nothing special to make all3 three HW architectures work in the same cluster.=20   H In fact, this was an old rx2600 which was running HP-UX 2 days before weG applied the latest OpenVMS FT kit. The firmware was even way behind the 1 minimum recommended by the OpenVMS release notes.   @ We emphasized to the folks in attendance that VAX's would not be- supported, but the intent of the demo was to:   G 1. Show OpenVMS on IA64 (rx2600) was running today. Course, it is still D early, and the FT release notes identify what is working and what is not.  G 2. Show Alpha-IA64 clustering was working today. We also had DECnet and " TCPIP working on the IA64 as well.  A 3. Show that OpenVMS was not doing anything to prevent VAX's from   working in a Alpha-IA64 cluster.  E Also, another unofficial personal goal was to illustrate that OpenVMS E clustering was continuing to raise the bar wrt to cluster technology.   H Think about the technology in this demo - 32bit VAX clustered with 64bitB RISC Alpha clustered with 64bit EPIC IA64 HW technology. All threeE different HW technologies tightly clustered with one active-active OS F cluster technology - OpenVMS. On the IA64 system we mounted one of the  VAX drives cluster wide as well.  ; A definite tip-of-the-hat to the OpenVMS Engineering folks.    :-)    Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Co.! Consulting & Integration Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: kerryDOTmain@hpDOTcom-     (remove the DOT's and replace with "."'s)  OpenVMS DCL - the original .COM  =20    >=20 > -----Original Message-----G > From: Bob Koehler [mailto:koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org]=20  > Sent: July 2, 2003 9:01 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  >=206 > In article <uIkMa.3698$K51.152@news.cpqcorp.net>,=20' > hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes: : > > In article <qLVVcLA1TSNw@eisner.encompasserve.org>,=20? > koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:  >=20F > > :  Anyone notice anything that didn't work (other than the support > > :  contract)?  > >=20 >=20< > >   I certainly know of clustering stuff that doesn't work >=20B >    That's all I wanted to know.  If folks do bump into things=20 > that actually ? >    don't work in any unsupported configuration it would be=20  > nice if they> >    dropped a note to the rest of us.  I don't expedct VMS=20 > engineering to >    spend time on it. >=20 >=20   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:42:22 -0400) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> S Subject: Re: Tri-architecture cluster demonstrated at DECUS Ottawa Technical Update 9 Message-ID: <A_5Oa.3511$%71.181749@news20.bellglobal.com>   H "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:nLAUdnc$iCkV@eisner.encompasserve.org...    > ? >    They've said over and over again that they will do nothing B >    intentional to break it, but they won't support it.  It would? >    take a very large VAX customer to push them before I think  >    we'd see a change in that.  > I >    And many of us were not suprised to see it demonstrated as a working # >    but unsupported configuration.  > ? IIRC, this is what was said at the OpenVMS symposium in Ottawa:   L 1. Many Alpha products and features seemed to work on Itanium with little orI no modifications before the recompile, and this is true for the LAN based  cluster that was demonstrated.  H 2. They stated that VAX would not be "supported" in a mixed architectureN cluster which included Itanium unless there was a demand for it from customersL (I'm assuming that these customers are people with support contracts and notI "us newsgroup rats"). It sounded to me that customer demand would trigger L formal qualification tests and everything would probably work with little orL no modifications but they didn't want to waste time testing if nobody wanted it.   L 3. One person pointed out that some OpenVMS system managers would rather notN tell their bosses that VAXes are compatible in this type of cluster. The wholeN idea of a tri-architecture cluster is quaint but probably not practical in all
 companies.  I p.s. this is just my personal opinion but at the Ottawa seminar I got the F feeling that OpenVMS has found a proper home inside HP. DEC was a goodL engineering company and HP still is. Maybe we should forget the whole Compaq( thing like a bad PC-manufacturing dream.  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.! http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 14:13:51 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 1 Subject: Re: VMS Quality (was: Are HP listening?) ' Message-ID: <3F0874EF.14D383BD@fsi.net>    Larry Kilgallen wrote: > ] > In article <3F07A23A.6C67B8A8@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:  > P > >> 5.  Reintroduce lower-cost hardware and offer a low-cost turnkey web server > >>     platform. > > F > > Even among the staunchest VMS hold outs, I'm finding less and lessK > > support for such a scheme. That's funny because a local daily newspaper J > > today had aquote from the Dallas Morning News which indicated that theJ > > "Do Not Call" registry received so many hits during its first hours ofC > > operation that the server crashed. The author asked, "Is anyone J > > surprised by this?" Of course, I couldn't help but wonder whether thatK > > crash could have been avoided by using a VMS-based server that had been + > > properly designed for scale and volume.  > C > Those who are determined to do a cheap (rather than thorough) job , > now are forced to do it other than on VMS. > B > Giving them the opportunity to do a cheap (rather than thorough)C > job on VMS would besmirch the reputation of VMS, rather than give A > them automatic success.  There are unlimited ways for the owner % > to mess up running of a VMS system.  > C > The hallmark of VMS stability is how well one can do with careful D > attention, rather than how well one can do with total inattention.  ; In article <3F07A23A.6C67B8A8@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera"  <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:    > [smip]) > properly designed for scale and volume.    What did I miss here?    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:11:12 -0400) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> ( Subject: Re: what is VMS advanced Server9 Message-ID: <lx5Oa.3493$%71.173962@news20.bellglobal.com>   @ "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNosp@Mcompaq.com> wrote in message) news:vg7e69af1e5o0f@corp.supernews.com... J > Advanced Server for OpenVMS is the name of the SMB file and print serverM > that runs on VMS (in other words, its a Windows NT/2000 compatible file and ? > print server).  It used to be known as PATHWORKS for OpenVMS.  >  > Brad McCusker  > OpenVMS Engineering  >   J A colleague at the OpenVMS symposium in Ottawa told me that anyone who hasN purchased an Alpha system within the past couple of years will probably have aK licence PAK for this product but not know it (PWLMXXXCA07.03). I checked my K files and discovered two! I just installed the product on my AS-DS20 and am  reallyK impressed with the performance as well as the product's ability to co-exist  with OpenVMS 7.3-1  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.! http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.371 ************************