1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 10 Jul 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 377       Contents:5 Re: "Advanced server" and Samba Domain Authentication  Re: Basics of attaching a PC Re: Basics of attaching a PC. Re: Converting VMS Formats to IEEE equivalents CSWS v1.3 abort  DEClaser 5100 (LN09) help  Re: DHCP startup problems G Re: five modes (Was: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64?) G Re: five modes (Was: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64?)  Re: Good code profilers on VMS?  Re: Good code profilers on VMS?  Re: KVM switches Re: OpenVMS I64, a proposal  Re: OpenVMS I64, a proposal  Re: OpenVMS I64, a proposal 4 Re: Opinions please: EVA and database journal policy Re: PDP-11 OS Release Dates  Re: PDP-11 OS Release Dates  Re: Restoring an backup 5 Re: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64? 5 Re: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64? 5 Re: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64?  Where's my bleeping beep?  Re: Where's my bleeping beep? * Re: [Mozilla 1.4] bug in pref-advanced.xul  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:55:13 -04005 From: "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNosp@Mcompaq.com> > Subject: Re: "Advanced server" and Samba Domain Authentication/ Message-ID: <vgpar6ag31jn2c@corp.supernews.com>   8 "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> wrote in message4 news:P2YOa.739$5o5.556655@news1.news.adelphia.net... > Tom Rymes wrote: > >  > J > How well it will work depends on how closely the SAMBA server emulates a@ > Microsoft PDC for the functions that External Authentications. >   J I concur completely with John.  If its a PDC, Advanced Server doesn't careH what the name is on the box.  I think it should work.  I don't think you  have anything to lose by trying.  
 Brad McCusker  OpenVMS Engineering 
 Nashua NH USA    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:26:29 -0400 + From: Rodney Carter <rtcarter401@yahoo.com> % Subject: Re: Basics of attaching a PC ) Message-ID: <3F0CB2B5.E1358532@yahoo.com>    Hoff,   K I tried running ICO.EXE on your suggestion. This returned a new message of:   6 non-translatable VMS error code: 0X3D0293, VMS message1 %mcr-f-reject, connect to network object rejected   [ I did some research on this an it seemed to point to a transport problem. Although TCPIP is T defined and I can ping the host and client both ways, I tried the default transport,= DecNet. I reset the display without TCPIP as transport using:   % set display/create/node=192.255.1.108   * Running ICO now, the new error message is:  3 non-translatable VMS error code: 0X144, VMS message ' %system-f-ivdevnam, invalid device name   ! SHOW DISPLAY gives the following:  DEVICE: WSA21: [super] NODE: 192.255.1.108  SERVER:  SCREEN:   [ I don't understand why the connection is rejected using TCPIP. Do I have to define WSA21 as W a device somewhere? Does the blank SERVER in SHOW DISPLAY mean I'm not connected to any X server? After running the BravoDraft app using the IP address instead of the workstationV name, the app will now load and display files. Resolution is bad. Is resolution or theJ graghics drivers defined by VMS or is it controlled by the Xwindow client?  U **You have all been very helpful and it is much appreciated. I finally feel like I am H making some headway and my boss is happy and off my back. Thanks again!!  
 Rodney Carter    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:51:40 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <My.Full.Name@intel.com>% Subject: Re: Basics of attaching a PC ) Message-ID: <3F0CB89C.5F74E529@intel.com>    Rodney Carter wrote: >  > Hoff,  > M > I tried running ICO.EXE on your suggestion. This returned a new message of:  > 8 > non-translatable VMS error code: 0X3D0293, VMS message3 > %mcr-f-reject, connect to network object rejected  > C > I did some research on this an it seemed to point to a transport  A > problem. Although TCPIP is defined and I can ping the host and  C > client both ways, I tried the default transport, DecNet. I reset  / > the display without TCPIP as transport using:  > ' > set display/create/node=192.255.1.108  [...]   
 Make that:  ;     $ Set Display/Create/Node=192.255.1.108/Transport=TCPIP   C Without the /Transport qualifier, the DECwindows transport defaults C to DECnet.  You wish to use TCP/IP and have supplied an IP address. / You need to tell VMS (DECwindows) what you did.   	 	HTH, Ken  --6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield " D1C Automation VMS System Support ) kenneth[dt]h[dt]fairfield[ta]intel[dt]com    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:00:48 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) 7 Subject: Re: Converting VMS Formats to IEEE equivalents 2 Message-ID: <ADZOa.4233$ET1.2238@news.cpqcorp.net>  a In article <HHpK1H.4E6@news.boeing.com>, "Dale Pennington" <Dale.K.Pennington@boeing.com> writes:   J :What we need are conversions from the F & G Float formats to IEEE formatsJ :and vice-versa. We have been hunting around for them with little success.  3   Which OpenVMS version and which OpenVMS platform?   K :So does anyone know where I could find code for such a conversion library,  :preferably open source ?   G   OpenVMS has such routines built in.  See the CVT$ cand related calls; H   the cvt$convert_float and cvt$ftof calls.  Documentation is in the LIB   RTL$ routine manual, IIRC.  E   There may well be a C call around, too -- and if so, then check the    back-port library.  E   Another solution is to convert the binary data to a text format and    ship that around, of course.  C   Also see if one of the ODBC/JDBC or other remote-access tools for F   RMS data supports this conversion -- some tool might well have this.  F   OpenVMS and other platforms also have XDR routines -- in the case of=   OpenVMS, see the TCP/IP Services documentation for details.   E   For related discussions of floating point and floating point format F   conversions -- discussions which tend to arise with some regularity,E   too, I might add -- please see the details available in the OpenVMS F   Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) section on floating point, and also>   see the (Google-able) discussions in the newsgroup archives.  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:25:01 -0700* From: "old account" <rwolff@selkirk.bc.ca> Subject: CSWS v1.3 abort5 Message-ID: <000501c346a3$9d0bddc0$41933cc7@cassb20c>   ? I upgraded from OpenVMS 7.2-1 to 7.2.2 so I could run CSWS 1.3. @ After installing 7.2-2 plus the TCPIP fix I upgraded to CSWS1.3.- When I started CSWS I received the following:    $ @sys$startup:apache$startup @ %APACHE-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000429C %APACHE-E-PROCTERMINATED, process terminated with status = 1001829A  %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort $   ' Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:12:35 +0100 + From: John Laird <john@laird-towers.org.uk> " Subject: DEClaser 5100 (LN09) help8 Message-ID: <j80pgvofppor311l36n1r6pi6sms3id83d@4ax.com>  I A client has just had one of these delivered from a reseller.  After much K fun with the comms, I got it fully working, dcps'd etc.  Just about to pack K my bags and depart and someone asked what I was going to do "with the other K bits", lurking under a desk ;-)  Looks like they also have a large capacity # tray that goes underneath the unit.   F I did not have time to start fiddling, but if anyone can provide briefJ instructions on how to attach the large tray, I would be very grateful.  AK printer user guide was included, which I also found online, but it does not J go into any detail about options (other than advising on how to adjust theB spring tension) but I have not been able to track down any optionsL installation manual or suchlike.  The large tray appears to be complete, andL clearly a small 4-pin plug connects to a socket on the underside of the mainB unit.  The menus would seem to suggest the printer can feed from aJ multiplicity of sources, so presumably we can simply drop the printer ontoJ the tray, power it up, select the large tray as the default feed and leaveH it like that ?  (This is probably easier to manage for the users than me  trying to get clever with DCPS.)  I I did not manage to decipher the odd 3-figure diagram to the left side of  the large tray..   TIA.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:29:13 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)" Subject: Re: DHCP startup problems3 Message-ID: <tW_Oa.36205$1F6.555621@news.chello.at>   W In article <1030709023145.636B-100000@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> writes: * >On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Michael Austin wrote:> >I don't remember if the DHCP server becomes a single point ofD >failure or if there is a way to have multiple DHCP servers.  (MaybeC >a VMS cluster with a lock to control which system is currently the C >server and the DHCP config file in a common directory on a shared, B >shadowed disk would do the trick if the DHCP protocol intrinsicly0 >dislikes having multiple servers on one LAN :-)  ; With TCPware this problem is solved for about a decade now. 5 Too bad that neither M$ nor HPQ TCPIP is up to it ;-)   M They (tm) are changing/extending the DHCP RFC standard to solve this problem.    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:11:28 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) P Subject: Re: five modes (Was: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64?)2 Message-ID: <ANZOa.4235$ET1.1606@news.cpqcorp.net>  i In article <5.2.0.9.2.20030708144314.01a2c428@raptor.psccos.com>, Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com> writes: + :At 02:17 PM 7/8/2003, Chris Scheers wrote:  :>Hoff Hoffman wrote:  :> > :> >J :> >   Extra credit question: which VAX implementation had five modes. :-) :> :>C :>That would be the 700 series VAXen with PDP11 compatibility mode:  :>J :>780, 782, 785, 750, 751, 730, 725, and 8600 (aka 790)  [Did I miss any?] : H :I thought the 8600 dropped compatibility mode finally, or am I thinking
 :of the 8650?     E   The VAX 8650 (Morningstar) was the last to have PDP-11 instructions D   in hardware -- that series had a name change -- from VAX-11/790 toE   VAX 8600 -- prior to its release, and (with this one wrinkle in the E   naming) it can be assumed that just the -11 series systems have the F   PDP-11 instruction set.  Subsequent VAX systems could emulate PDP-11C   through software.  So -- technically -- all VAX systems -- can do C   this.  That written, I was specifically thinking of VAX modes and E   not of PDP-11 modes.  (See the replies in the other thread for some    details and answers.)     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:56:24 +0000 (UTC)7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) P Subject: Re: five modes (Was: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64?)( Message-ID: <behvho$5o7$1@pcls4.std.com>  + "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> writes:   K >> 780, 782, 785, 750, 751, 730, 725, and 8600 (aka 790)  [Did I miss any?]   : There was apparently a 784 (4 processor 782-like machine).  O >I knew it was the 700 series machines; I didn't know that 8600 was a.k.a. 790.  >Go figure.   L A late marketing decision changed its name from the VAX 790 to the VAX 8600.F The processor-specific VMS system image for the 8600 uses the 790 nameH (I forget its exact name, but it's the same name as the 780 image, other$ than replacing the '780' with '790') --   -Mike    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Jul 2003 13:50:45 -0700 ) From: ejohnson@factset.com (Eric Johnson) ( Subject: Re: Good code profilers on VMS?= Message-ID: <ef79676b.0307091250.67d8f16c@posting.google.com>   h Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<PlgoFTrSs3pz@eisner.encompasserve.org>...  C > There are some profilers on other operating systems that actually 0 > require a separate compilation for profiling !  J It beats not having one, which is where serious developers are on OpenVMS.   -eric    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:27:57 GMT  From: danco@ns2.pebble.org( Subject: Re: Good code profilers on VMS?1 Message-ID: <slrnbgpdqc.93t.danco@ns2.pebble.org>   = In article <ef79676b.0307091250.67d8f16c@posting.google.com>,  Eric Johnson wrote:   L > It beats not having one, which is where serious developers are on OpenVMS.  J I do wish I could profile all loaded images at the same time though ratherI than having to select one at a time.  Statically linking in an image that G is normally activated dynamically (so that I can profile it) is a minor H problem (for me).  It certainly would be nice if PCA had better hooks inC the image activator. etc.  Fortunately, I don't use threads on VMS. I Recompiling everything (million lines of code) would definately be a real F pain.  PCA doesn't seem to have received much attention since the daysJ when I made very heavy use of it back in the late '80s.  I make only lightK use of it these days.  Next fun VMS event comming for me this fall: Itanium  porting.   - Dan    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:23:26 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <My.Full.Name@intel.com> Subject: Re: KVM switches ) Message-ID: <3F0C95DE.37B33543@intel.com>    John Travell wrote:  > ; > "Ken Fairfield" <My.Full.Name@intel.com> wrote in message $ > news:3F0B2766.EAF25B0@intel.com...  
 [big snip]  ; > > Also, in the other followup form the OP, it sounds like C > > Adder understands the requirements and has a solution.  I think B > > I'll look around and see if they are available on this side of > > the pond...  > : > Adder do have a US office, according to their website at > http://www.addertec.com/  B I sent e-mail to Adder's techincal support and they confirmed thisB little GEM AVG2 2-port router not only "works" with VMS and PC's, B but that it correctly switches the keyboard mode between scanset 3: and "default" mode when switching between the systems. :-)  @ Looks like a nice, simple little system for a hobbiest.  It uses= standard cables, which is both a plus and a minus, depending, ? because you need a separate keyboard, mouse and video cable for  each system attached.   > Anyone out there actively using the Adder GEM with an Alpha???  F I also got a response from Raritan tech support that their CompuServe B CS2 does the correct keyboard mode switching.  Unfortunately, the ? CS2 requires an adapter between the Alphastation and the switch G (why? what does it do?). [This is the AUKME that Alan Frisbie mentioned E in an earlier follow-up.  But I doubt I get them for free...they list E at US$89 or so...]  Raritan also use their own cables between switch  E and systems, which is both a plus and a minus because the cables are  3 pricy, but you have a single cable for each system.    Regards, Ken --6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield " D1C Automation VMS System Support ) kenneth[dt]h[dt]fairfield[ta]intel[dt]com    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:54:15 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) $ Subject: Re: OpenVMS I64, a proposal2 Message-ID: <rxZOa.4231$ET1.4056@news.cpqcorp.net>  q In article <FW8PQBYcNJBA@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:   ?   re: Seeking free hardware and access to OpenVMS I64 licenses.   F   I will ask about the status of the hobbyist licenses and the relatedD   plans, and about the availability of distributions for OpenVMS I64C   and the cross-tools -- I would tend to doubt I could acquire any  C   "free" hardware specifically for the purpose of porting Freeware  C   right now.  (And if I could, well, I would also expect the right  1   of first refusal on the Itanium2 iron, too. :-)    --    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Jul 2003 15:54:32 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) $ Subject: Re: OpenVMS I64, a proposal3 Message-ID: <vqwemq7alo75@eisner.encompasserve.org>   X In article <rxZOa.4231$ET1.4056@news.cpqcorp.net>, hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:s > In article <FW8PQBYcNJBA@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:  > A >   re: Seeking free hardware and access to OpenVMS I64 licenses.  > H >   I will ask about the status of the hobbyist licenses and the relatedF >   plans, and about the availability of distributions for OpenVMS I64E >   and the cross-tools -- I would tend to doubt I could acquire any  E >   "free" hardware specifically for the purpose of porting Freeware  E >   right now.  (And if I could, well, I would also expect the right  3 >   of first refusal on the Itanium2 iron, too. :-)   I    You mean there aren't little IA64 systems (darn, I can't remember that K    model number yet) just lying around HP waiting for someone to plug them      in?  8-)   K    I'd be glad to borrow the one you abandon when you get something better  I    than the one you've got now.  And we'll let HP do other usefull things F    with it, like demo freeware to the potential OpenVMS I64 customers.  J    I'd even forgo the Alpha if it can't be done until the native compilersG    ship (assuming TELNET and FTP are working, I think that's consistent 
    with 8.1).    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Jul 2003 16:12:47 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) $ Subject: Re: OpenVMS I64, a proposal3 Message-ID: <pwl2HkYXPuBm@eisner.encompasserve.org>   X In article <rxZOa.4231$ET1.4056@news.cpqcorp.net>, hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:s > In article <FW8PQBYcNJBA@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:  > A >   re: Seeking free hardware and access to OpenVMS I64 licenses.  > H >   I will ask about the status of the hobbyist licenses and the relatedF >   plans, and about the availability of distributions for OpenVMS I64E >   and the cross-tools -- I would tend to doubt I could acquire any  E >   "free" hardware specifically for the purpose of porting Freeware  E >   right now.  (And if I could, well, I would also expect the right  3 >   of first refusal on the Itanium2 iron, too. :-)       Before I forget:   3    1) THANKS for looking into the hobbiyst program.   C    2) I was assuming if this could be done, it would be a while, by G       which time VMS engineering might be able to treat this as another H       field test site and receive well written SPRs from those who know D       VMS quite well.  That way there would be the necessary benefit=       to HP to interest someone in supplying a loaner system.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:46:26 GMT ( From: David Harrold <DHarrold@wi.rr.com>= Subject: Re: Opinions please: EVA and database journal policy @ Message-ID: <8392f4ca08ee6705749c05620b4e030e@free.teranews.com>  K On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 14:17:18 GMT, "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com>  wrote:  H >We're installing EVA storage in some of our facilities.  We've had someL >discussion on how to handle database journal files (like .AIJ for DBMS/RDB)> >and I'd like to find out what others are doing in this space. > L >Currently, our practice is to store journal files on a separate device fromM >any devices the database is stored on.  If any database device is completely L >lost, the database can be restored from tape and bought up to date with theI >still available journal files.  We've never had to do this to production  >data, but we like to be ready.  > I >Storage allocation on the EVA makes this practice less clear.  I guess I J >want to know if people are allocating separate storage pools for databaseH >and journals or if one storage pool is sufficient.  If I'm missing some) >other option, I'd like to hear that too.   F We had this discussion when we brought 2 EVAs in to support our OracleJ database.  The recommendation (IIRC) from HP was to create a separate diskN group for the disks holding the Oracle logs.  That way if your disk group withI the datafiles has a failure, you still should have the logs to be able to $ recreate the data after the restore.  J Because we had two, and for the log disks, were using volume shadowing, weL kept it all as one group.  This is under the assumption that what happens toK the disk group in one EVA won't also happen to the disk group in the second I EVA.  That gave us the comfort level we were looking for, your business's ( comfort level may be different, however.   >  >-Jeff >    Hope that helps,   Dave Harrold      N ..............................................................................N David Harrold                              E-Mail: David_Harrold at aurora.orgI Sr. Software Systems Engineer              Phone:          (414) 647-6204 I                                            Pager:          (414) 941-4634 G Aurora Health Care                         Fax:          (414) 647-4999  3031 W. Montana Street Milwaukee, WI 53215    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:56:30 +0000 (UTC). From: Dennis Grevenstein <dennis@pcde.inka.de>$ Subject: Re: PDP-11 OS Release Dates, Message-ID: <behogu$cbo$1@aton.pcde.inka.de>  B In alt.sys.pdp11 Zane H. Healy <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> wrote: > M > I'm looking for release dates for the various PDP-11 OS's.  For example for  > RT-11: > " > RT-11 V4 was February 21st, 1980 > RT-11 V5 was March 12th, 1983  > RT-11 V5.6 was 1992 $ > RT-11 V5.7 was October, 29th, 1998     I've got a book here which says:   OS-11		1972 
 RT11 V1		1973 
 RT11 V2		1974 
 RT11 V2C	1976 
 RT11 V3		1977  RT11 V5.1	1984 RT11 V5.2	1985 RT11 V5.3	1986 RT11 V5.4	1987   mfg  Dennis   --  ? The long journey to world domination begins with a single step.   ?                                                          Illiad    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Jul 2003 22:45:21 GMT  From: healyzh@NOaracnetSPAM.com $ Subject: Re: PDP-11 OS Release Dates+ Message-ID: <bei5u10pva@enews1.newsguy.com>   @ In alt.sys.pdp11 Dennis Grevenstein <dennis@pcde.inka.de> wrote:
 > OS-11		1972  > RT11 V1		1973  > RT11 V2		1974  > RT11 V2C	1976   L Interesting...  This means that the dates for revisions in the copy of a V2CI manual I have must loosly translate to releases of RT-11.  This is what I , was suspecting, but couldn't really believe.  G Is OS-11 related to RT-11?  I think this is the first I've heard of it.    			Zane    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Jul 2003 15:04:49 -0700 " From: cstranslations@msn.com (Joe)  Subject: Re: Restoring an backup= Message-ID: <d56d1c2d.0307091404.15c2ba6a@posting.google.com>   Z <__awakeren@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:<3f0b0ae3$0$49101$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>...   [*...]*.*;*   [*...]*.*;*        > Hi There,  > / > I made a backup to a save set of a hole disk. / > Now I want to restore the data to a new disk.  > I booted with an CD-rom L > I mounted the disk, but when i restore ALL files are in de ROOT of mij new > harddisk ?????M > What should i tell to the backup command to put it in the directory's where  > it belongs ????  > & > I'am running VMS7.1-2 on an alpha800 >  > Arjan  > H > Please reply or mail to awakeren@xs4all.nl    (WHITOUT the '__'prefix)   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:21:02 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) > Subject: Re: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64?2 Message-ID: <i2ZOa.4224$ET1.1882@news.cpqcorp.net>  d In article <mowOa.63373$n%5.61267@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, bob smith <sfmc68@bellatlantic.net> writes: :  :  :Hoff Hoffman wrote: : I :>   Extra credit question: which VAX implementation had five modes. :-)    ' :I believe it is something called SEVMS      Sorry, no points.     G   Security Enhanced VMS (SEVMS) provides NCSC Class B1 style Mandatory  D   Access Control security (and evaluated NCSC Class B1 with specificG   versions and configurations), in addition to the discretionary access G   controls that OpenVMS system managers and many OpenVMS users are more E   familiar with (the NCSC Class C2 stuff); SEVMS does not involve nor -   require five processor modes.  (Just four.)     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:37:44 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) > Subject: Re: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64?2 Message-ID: <YhZOa.4227$ET1.2384@news.cpqcorp.net>  q In article <b7aTdEKsmS1V@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: e :In article <mowOa.63373$n%5.61267@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, bob smith <sfmc68@bellatlantic.net> writes:  :>   :>   :> Hoff Hoffman wrote: :>  J :>>   Extra credit question: which VAX implementation had five modes. :-)  : ) :> I believe it is something called SEVMS  : C :   Hoff sure looks to be asking about hardware, SEVMS is software.     F   The Nautilus-class VAX platform (VAX 8800 and friends) had a specialJ   variant of the Nautilus platform microcode that effectively implemented G   an additional processor mode -- another ring.  The standard microcode F   for the platform implemented "just" four modes.  There were at leastD   two potential OS-level applications for this extra "ring" -- Larry2   (LJK) has already cited the major one: security.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:53:06 +0100 ) From: Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org> > Subject: Re: vms security model - does it still exist on IA64?A Message-ID: <mwZOa.6038$ju6.108684@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>    Larry Kilgallen wrote:N > More likely the SVS modification to certain microcode allowing A1 operation.  D Did VVAX have an additional mode? Does it count as a VAX if it never= shipped and only existed as alternative microcode for another 
 processor?   Antonio    --   --------------- - Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Jul 2003 16:13:32 -0500 4 From: kuhrt@nospammy.encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)" Subject: Where's my bleeping beep?3 Message-ID: <LMuVsea5z$iI@eisner.encompasserve.org>   @ I have a DEC PWS 500a running VMS V7.3 with an LK46W-A2 keyboardA which doesn't seem to beep.  My DECW$SMB_KEYBOARD.DAT has this in  it...    sm.bell_enable: enable sm.bell_percent:        40" keyboard_dialect:       US_LK401AA  @ which "I think" is correct.  I Googled for a bit and found note 7 from someone with a similar problem, but no resolution.     Anyone know what might be wrong?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:05:20 -0400 ' From: Stuart Fuller <stufuller@usa.net> & Subject: Re: Where's my bleeping beep?0 Message-ID: <h5lieb.j6q.ln@dadsys2.fuller.local>   Marty Kuhrt wrote:  B > I have a DEC PWS 500a running VMS V7.3 with an LK46W-A2 keyboardC > which doesn't seem to beep.  My DECW$SMB_KEYBOARD.DAT has this in  > it...  >  > sm.bell_enable: enable > sm.bell_percent:        40$ > keyboard_dialect:       US_LK401AA > A > which "I think" is correct.  I Googled for a bit and found note 9 > from someone with a similar problem, but no resolution.  > " > Anyone know what might be wrong?  F Does the LK46W (or LK461) have a beeper in the keyboard?  I'll bet it  doesn't.  I Since there's a speaker in the system box, why would there be one in the  	 keyboard?    --             Stu    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:45:22 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)3 Subject: Re: [Mozilla 1.4] bug in pref-advanced.xul 3 Message-ID: <C9%Oa.36373$1F6.556128@news.chello.at>   d In article <pQROa.575$5o5.440869@news1.news.adelphia.net>, Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com> writes:! >Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: H >>But strange thing is, that JUNKing did work in MOZILLA 1.3 (on OpenVMSI >>and Win32). And I'm afraid, I already wrote this here (some weeks ago).  >>H >It was there, but supposedly it wasn't meant to be. Evidently the spam H >filtering techniques which are done for mail don't apply for news. The J >filter controls were there, but the code behind them didn't do anything. H >As explained in http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169638#c149 > 6 >  Although the Junk Mail controls for Newsgroups were= >  supposed to be disabled, they are only partially disabled, A >  currently a user can set them up (select checkboxes, whatnot), < >  but none of the junkmail controls actually work. They can6 >  also mark messages as Junk/Not Junk in newsgroups.   H Ok. I was specifically talking about "marking messages as Junk". And oneF could do this. And even filter the display to display only "Not Junk".D And this worked. I never expected (nor did I wrote somewhere) that II can use "Junk Mail Controls" (note: the word "Mail") with the Newsreader.   H I did however expect to see some more Junk Controls specifically for theH Newsclient (hopefully already with V1.4) and I'm disappointed now to seeH the opposite (functionality removed in V1.4). So, I stop here discussing- MOZILLA related things outside of BUGZILLA...   I Please, don't take this as an offend to you, Colin. It is not your fault. H I like your work and I hope we'll see more in the future (especially allJ parts of MOZILLA - after it got separated in different products - on VMS).   Thanks again   -Peter   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.377 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        E~ⷛh*3;_vKF w
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