1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 14 Jul 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 386       Contents: A rant about HP's website. Re: A rant about HP's website. Re: A rant about HP's website. Re: A rant about HP's website. Re: A rant about HP's website. Re: A rant about HP's website. Re: A rant about HP's website. Can VMS ZIP encrypt? Re: Can VMS ZIP encrypt? Re: Can VMS ZIP encrypt? Cleaning up the proxy database" Re: Cleaning up the proxy database Cluster satellite fails to boot  Re: DEC 3000 M 400 ASIC error 6 Digi Acceleport Async Adapter problem on OpenVMS 7.3-1 FTP Greeting Re: FTP Greeting Re: FTP Greeting Getting rid of DECwindows? Re: iSCSI anyone? , looking for used hardware in UK, NL, B, D, S0 Re: looking for used hardware in UK, NL, B, D, S0 Re: looking for used hardware in UK, NL, B, D, S0 Re: looking for used hardware in UK, NL, B, D, S@ Re: More than VMS is required, but VMS is a great starting point" Re: My Alpha has no panties on !!!" Re: My Alpha has no panties on !!!" Re: My Alpha has no panties on !!!" Re: My Alpha has no panties on !!!! OpenVMS - Remot emailbox (Decnet) , Re: OpenVMS running under simh, ucx problem.P Re: OpenVMS, and Itanium2 and Itanium2 6M (was: Re: HP Webcast thismorning on Ne3 Re: Problem with XDM ( tcpip v5.3 on axp/vms 7.3-1) 3 Re: Problem with XDM ( tcpip v5.3 on axp/vms 7.3-1) # Questions from Pat St. Laurent @ HP ' Re: Questions from Pat St. Laurent @ HP ' Re: Questions from Pat St. Laurent @ HP P Re: Redirecting screen output from FMS to files and displaying them using an emuJ Re: Tri-architecture cluster demonstrated at DECUS Ottawa Technical Update Re: vms 7.3.1 install problem   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 10:18:58 -00006 From: "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]># Subject: A rant about HP's website. 1 Message-ID: <doc_rants.2003071401@cyberspace.nil>   5 NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. 8 No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.8 --------------------------------------------------------  L I wanted to install Python on my rebuilt system, but had a little hitch when# it insisted I use HP's OpenSSL kit.   K Not a problem methinks... I'll just bung the download URL into lynx and get  the kit.  Nope.   B Fix the typing error in the #$%*ing stupid hostname and try again.   Nope.   6 Bah.  Start at http://www.hp.com and navigate through.  L The registration page does not work with Lynx. It says "Content starts here"I and THERE IS NO CONTENT.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.  I'll bet it's the damn  Javascript again.   L Could someone please ask people to at least check that pages/forms work with Lynx.   H It is, after all, the base standard and viewing a page in Lynx shows you+ exactly how a search engine sees your site.        Doc. --  K OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems. K [New PGP Key - Get via finger]        http://deathrow.vistech.net/BOFH/doc/    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:38:42 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG' Subject: Re: A rant about HP's website. 0 Message-ID: <00A22D7C.9325BFAF@SendSpamHere.ORG>  j In article <doc_rants.2003071401@cyberspace.nil>, "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:6 >NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway.9 >No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender. 9 >--------------------------------------------------------  > M >I wanted to install Python on my rebuilt system, but had a little hitch when $ >it insisted I use HP's OpenSSL kit. > L >Not a problem methinks... I'll just bung the download URL into lynx and get >the kit.  Nope. > C >Fix the typing error in the #$%*ing stupid hostname and try again.  >  >Nope. > 7 >Bah.  Start at http://www.hp.com and navigate through.  > M >The registration page does not work with Lynx. It says "Content starts here" J >and THERE IS NO CONTENT.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.  I'll bet it's the damn >Javascript again. > M >Could someone please ask people to at least check that pages/forms work with  >Lynx. > I >It is, after all, the base standard and viewing a page in Lynx shows you , >exactly how a search engine sees your site.   I can hear the response now...  J Sorry Doc but this has nothing to do with any Micro$oft product.  Internet5 Explorer is the base standard at which we are aiming.    --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 16:18:49 -00006 From: "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>' Subject: Re: A rant about HP's website. 5 Message-ID: <20030714161849.1798.qmail@gacracker.org>   5 NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. 8 No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.8 --------------------------------------------------------  6 On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:? >In article <doc_rants.2003071401@cyberspace.nil>, "Doc.Cypher" , ><Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:7 >>NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. : >>No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.: >>-------------------------------------------------------- >>N >>I wanted to install Python on my rebuilt system, but had a little hitch when% >>it insisted I use HP's OpenSSL kit.  >>M >>Not a problem methinks... I'll just bung the download URL into lynx and get  >>the kit.  Nope.  >>D >>Fix the typing error in the #$%*ing stupid hostname and try again. >> >>Nope.  >>8 >>Bah.  Start at http://www.hp.com and navigate through. >>N >>The registration page does not work with Lynx. It says "Content starts here"K >>and THERE IS NO CONTENT.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.  I'll bet it's the damn  >>Javascript again.  >>N >>Could someone please ask people to at least check that pages/forms work with >>Lynx.  >>J >>It is, after all, the base standard and viewing a page in Lynx shows you- >>exactly how a search engine sees your site.  >  >I can hear the response now...  > K >Sorry Doc but this has nothing to do with any Micro$oft product.  Internet 6 >Explorer is the base standard at which we are aiming.  * Base is a rather apt word in that context.  K Of course, once I'd got past the stern warnings about using this product to J build nookleur weaponz, I had no problem downloading it to an Axis of Evil state - i.e. Belgium.   : This is silly, I didn't see such a warning at openssl.org.     Doc. --  K OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems. K [New PGP Key - Get via finger]        http://deathrow.vistech.net/BOFH/doc/    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 10:30:55 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ' Subject: Re: A rant about HP's website. 3 Message-ID: <cKNCKjSLqLYo@eisner.encompasserve.org>   n In article <20030714161849.1798.qmail@gacracker.org>, "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:  M > Of course, once I'd got past the stern warnings about using this product to L > build nookleur weaponz, I had no problem downloading it to an Axis of Evil > state - i.e. Belgium.  > < > This is silly, I didn't see such a warning at openssl.org.  > Hewlett Packard is a US corporation, with continuing interests+ in selling to the US Department of Defense.   : The owners of openssl.org seem not to be in that position.   Registrant:  OpenSSL (OPENSSL-DOM)     29 Lundie Close Sinfin     Derby DE24 3AN     UK       Domain Name: OPENSSL.ORG   !    Record expires on 19-Dec-2005. !    Record created on 20-Sep-2002. 5    Database last updated on 14-Jul-2003 11:28:52 EDT.    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 17:01:58 -00006 From: "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>' Subject: Re: A rant about HP's website. 5 Message-ID: <20030714170158.2648.qmail@gacracker.org>   5 NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. 8 No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.8 --------------------------------------------------------  > On 14 Jul 2003, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:C >In article <20030714161849.1798.qmail@gacracker.org>, "Doc.Cypher" , ><Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes: > N >> Of course, once I'd got past the stern warnings about using this product toM >> build nookleur weaponz, I had no problem downloading it to an Axis of Evil  >> state - i.e. Belgium. >>  = >> This is silly, I didn't see such a warning at openssl.org.  > ? >Hewlett Packard is a US corporation, with continuing interests , >in selling to the US Department of Defense. > ; >The owners of openssl.org seem not to be in that position.  >  >Registrant: >OpenSSL (OPENSSL-DOM) >   29 Lundie Close Sinfin >   Derby DE24 3AN >   UK  8 Ah, I hadn't thought about that angle on the ITAR stuff.     Doc. --  K OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems. K [New PGP Key - Get via finger]        http://deathrow.vistech.net/BOFH/doc/    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:08:12 -0400 , From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com>' Subject: Re: A rant about HP's website. * Message-ID: <3f12daa1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  K Doc.. could you give some exact url's you are  talking about. what page has  a bad url link on it? J what page says 'content starts here' and doesn't display anything? this is3 usually a table problem not a deliberate attempt to  make the page not show up.  K The problem with making sure everything works with LYNX just adds about 20+ ; more systems things have to be checked on. Which version of J LYNX on what platform do you want to make sure things work on? is it ok ifF it works with the version on NSK but not the one on MPE? how about VMSJ V5.5-2? or OSF1? or non-HP systems.. We do try to make sure things work onL the most common browsers that our users (of specific areas) use. I make sureI for instanance that the OpenVMS site works on Netscape 3.03b. I figure if H that works then most will. It is after all 1996 technology so everythingG that's been created since then doesn't much work. thats 7 years of back  support.  I so please put in the specfiic url's that don't work. I checked www.hp.com I with lynx v2.8.2 rel.1 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3 and navigated that page. You  don't give any other page url's   > the OpenVMS SSL download does work with this version of lynx... http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/sslE all the way to getting the mail message with the url and the download K worked.. so what's the problem? if it isn't OpenVMS then don't gripe in the J OpenVMS newsgroup. IF it is then let me know.. it's not like we are hiding
 or something.      --  K --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 Warren Sander                   WW E-Marketing (HP.COM) B Hewlett-Packard Company         Work:  warren.sander@remove.hp.comK 200 Forest Street MR01-3/K8     Personal: sander.ma.ultranet@remove.rcn.com . Marlboro, MA 01752              (508) 467-48755    My opinions are my own and I only speak for myself *          Read http://www.hp.com/go/openvmsK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------         A "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message + news:doc_rants.2003071401@cyberspace.nil... 7 > NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. : > No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.: > -------------------------------------------------------- > I > I wanted to install Python on my rebuilt system, but had a little hitch  when% > it insisted I use HP's OpenSSL kit.  > I > Not a problem methinks... I'll just bung the download URL into lynx and  get  > the kit.  Nope.  > D > Fix the typing error in the #$%*ing stupid hostname and try again. >  > Nope.  > 8 > Bah.  Start at http://www.hp.com and navigate through. > H > The registration page does not work with Lynx. It says "Content starts here" K > and THERE IS NO CONTENT.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.  I'll bet it's the damn  > Javascript again.  > I > Could someone please ask people to at least check that pages/forms work  with > Lynx.  > J > It is, after all, the base standard and viewing a page in Lynx shows you- > exactly how a search engine sees your site.  >  >  >  > Doc. > --  D > OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems.  > [New PGP Key - Get via finger]% http://deathrow.vistech.net/BOFH/doc/  >    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 18:23:36 -00006 From: "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>' Subject: Re: A rant about HP's website. 5 Message-ID: <20030714182336.4242.qmail@gacracker.org>   5 NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. 8 No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.8 --------------------------------------------------------  B On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com> wrote:L >Doc.. could you give some exact url's you are  talking about. what page has >a bad url link on it?K >what page says 'content starts here' and doesn't display anything? this is 4 >usually a table problem not a deliberate attempt to >make the page not show up.  > L >The problem with making sure everything works with LYNX just adds about 20+< >more systems things have to be checked on. Which version ofK >LYNX on what platform do you want to make sure things work on? is it ok if G >it works with the version on NSK but not the one on MPE? how about VMS K >V5.5-2? or OSF1? or non-HP systems.. We do try to make sure things work on M >the most common browsers that our users (of specific areas) use. I make sure J >for instanance that the OpenVMS site works on Netscape 3.03b. I figure ifI >that works then most will. It is after all 1996 technology so everything H >that's been created since then doesn't much work. thats 7 years of back	 >support.  > J >so please put in the specfiic url's that don't work. I checked www.hp.comJ >with lynx v2.8.2 rel.1 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3 and navigated that page. You  >don't give any other page url's  I Sorry for not being more specific.  I'd built the Openssl.org kit the day . before, then discovered Python didn't like it.  M The front page worked fine with Lynx, I then used Search to look for "OpenVMS  OpenSSL download".  0 I got as far as the ITAR stuff with Lynx, that's  = http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ssl/ssl_terms.html   ) I think the page that gave the error was:   @ http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ssl/ssl_register.html  J I can't be certain because I'm not a Lynx expert and it doesn't by default
 show URLs.  L Anyway, I got the kit and installed it, I need to look into why WASD doesn'tM like it though.  I've recompiled WASD against this kit, but get the following  error on startup:   ; %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SSL$LIBCRYPTO_SHR32  -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file9 <disk>:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SSL$LIBCRYPTO_SHR32.EXE;1 K -SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged  image   G I don't know if this is an issue with WASD, or something I've missed in  setting up SSL.   J I do have the SSL$STARTUP.COM run at boot, and the utils setup in SYLOGIN.  N BTW Warren, you might want to discuss with people whether or not you'll acceptN nym.alias.net email addresses for download of software with such restrictions.M Of course, you'd need to combine that with checking for connections via a web M proxy if you really want to make sure the Taliban-in-Exile aren't downloading  this stuff. :)     Doc. --  K OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems. K [New PGP Key - Get via finger]        http://deathrow.vistech.net/BOFH/doc/    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:40:23 +0100 % From: David Gray <police@spamcop.net>  Subject: Can VMS ZIP encrypt? 8 Message-ID: <gpf5hv4hfbbug6tpuq15oitj6opgd2pfk1@4ax.com>   Greetings all,    A Can Zip encrypt files?   My version of zip (2.3) does not mention D anything on the help screen about encruption, but reading the manual, it appears that the switch -e can be used.     Any ideas?     Dave.          Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP% Type 'zip "-L"' for software license. > Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999). Usage: zip=="$disk:[dir]zip.exe"C zip [-options] [-b path] [-t mmddyyyy] [-n suffixes] [zipfile list] 
 [-xi list]D   The default action is to add or replace zipfile entries from list, which <   can include the special name - to compress standard input.B   If zipfile and list are omitted, zip compresses stdin to stdout.D   -f   freshen: only changed files  -u   update: only changed or new files B   -d   delete entries in zipfile    -m   move into zipfile (delete files)F   -r   recurse into directories     -j   junk (don't record) directory names D   -0   store only                   -l   convert LF to CR LF (-ll CR	 LF to LF) 8   -1   compress faster              -9   compress better@   -q   quiet operation              -v   verbose operation/print version info<   -c   add one-line comments        -z   add zipfile commentF   -@   read names from stdin        -o   make zipfile as old as latest entry C   -x   exclude the following names  -i   include only the following  names ?  "-F"  fix zipfile("-FF" try harder) "-D"  do not add directory  entries <  "-A"  adjust self-extracting exe  "-J"  junk zipfile prefix
 (unzipsfx)F  "-T"  test zipfile integrity      "-X"  eXclude eXtra file attributesA  "-V"  save VMS file attributes     -w   append version number to  stored name #   -R   PKZIP recursion (see manual) F   -h   show this help               -n   don't compress these suffixes   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Jul 03 08:13:21 PST From: mckinneyj@cpva.saic.com ! Subject: Re: Can VMS ZIP encrypt? ( Message-ID: <oJrsYL71djDN@cpva.saic.com>  8 In article <gpf5hv4hfbbug6tpuq15oitj6opgd2pfk1@4ax.com>,(  David Gray <police@spamcop.net> writes: >  > Greetings all,   > C > Can Zip encrypt files?   My version of zip (2.3) does not mention F > anything on the help screen about encruption, but reading the manual. > it appears that the switch -e can be used.   > 
 > Any ideas?   >   ? 	ZIPCLOAK should have been bundled into the distribution of the ' 	ZIP suite. It will provide encryption.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:44:33 +0100 % From: David Gray <police@spamcop.net> ! Subject: Re: Can VMS ZIP encrypt? 8 Message-ID: <84n5hvofooup2vom2v51rpn8sdoaguh4j2@4ax.com>  3 Ok thanks for that, got it and it's working fine.     B One more thing... I saw once that ZIP could be used with VMS styleD qualifiers by way of a CLD - anyone know how to get hold of the CLD?& I cannot find it on the net anywhere.    Cheers,  	Dave.      9 On 14 Jul 03 08:13:21 PST, mckinneyj@cpva.saic.com wrote:   9 >In article <gpf5hv4hfbbug6tpuq15oitj6opgd2pfk1@4ax.com>, ) > David Gray <police@spamcop.net> writes:  >>   >> Greetings all,  >>  D >> Can Zip encrypt files?   My version of zip (2.3) does not mentionG >> anything on the help screen about encruption, but reading the manual / >> it appears that the switch -e can be used.    >>   >> Any ideas?  >>   > @ >	ZIPCLOAK should have been bundled into the distribution of the( >	ZIP suite. It will provide encryption.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:38:36 +0100 * From: Dave Brennan <nospam@edcworks.co.uk>' Subject: Cleaning up the proxy database 8 Message-ID: <jdj5hvg4oa9pqgr4rdniajvsjs5nta9ggn@4ax.com>  F I am trying to clean up the VMS proxy database on a node. The quickestB way would be to recreate the proxy database as remove/proxy *::* * leaves entries.   F The CREATE/PROXY gives me a PROXYACTIVE error, how do I deactivate it?    4 Dave[dot]Brennan[at]edcworks[dot]co[dot]uk[<cr><lf>]   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:32:04 +0100 * From: Dave Brennan <nospam@edcworks.co.uk>+ Subject: Re: Cleaning up the proxy database 8 Message-ID: <okm5hvcc9uhc39koa78a49cb0kvpt0kj1i@4ax.com>   OK I figured it out:-    set server secuirity/exit  del net$proxy.dat;*  del netproxy.dat;* set server security/start  mc authorize create/proxy     + Dave Brennan <nospam@edcworks.co.uk> wrote:   G >I am trying to clean up the VMS proxy database on a node. The quickest C >way would be to recreate the proxy database as remove/proxy *::* *  >leaves entries. > G >The CREATE/PROXY gives me a PROXYACTIVE error, how do I deactivate it?  >  > 5 >Dave[dot]Brennan[at]edcworks[dot]co[dot]uk[<cr><lf>]   4 Dave[dot]Brennan[at]edcworks[dot]co[dot]uk[<cr><lf>]   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 10:55:09 -0700/ From: dan.williams@btconnect.com (Dan Williams) ( Subject: Cluster satellite fails to boot= Message-ID: <dd7df538.0307140517.2bf75623@posting.google.com>   C I have set up a cluster satellite, which joins the cluster and then ? does nothing else. It does come with an error about not finding D net$config.dat but I couldn't find anything about this in the cluter manual.   B I've tried deleteing this node and trying different settings no no avail.C Is there any reason why it shouldn't boot into a login prompt. I am @ trying to install vms on this other machine, which only has dssi drives and a tk70.   Thanks Dan    This is how it boots :   -EZA0    1..0..    = %VAXcluster, system loaded from node OZZY (AA-00-04-00-01-04)   = %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk = %SYSBOOT-W-SYSBOOT Can not map SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk : %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping PAGEFILE.SYS on the System Disk< %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SAVEDUMP parameter not set to protect the PAGEFILE.SYS?    OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version V7.3     Major version id = 1 Minor  version id = 0? %DECnet-I-LOADED, network base image loaded, version = 05.0E.00   C %DECnet-W-NOOPEN, could not open SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]NET$CONFIG.DAT F %WBM-I-WBMINFO Write Bitmap has successfully completed initialization.5 %SYSINIT, waiting to form or join a VMScluster system F %PAB0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR  03060022/00000004/00000040  C %PAB0, Port is Reinitializing (  49 Retries Left).  Check the Error  Log.  F %PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR  03060022/00000004/00000040  C %PAA0, Port is Reinitializing (  49 Retries Left).  Check the Error  Log.  ( %CNXMAN,  lost connection to system OZZY> %CNXMAN,  sending VAXcluster membership request to system OZZY2 %CNXMAN,  re-established connection to system OZZY2 %CNXMAN,  now a VAXcluster member -- system MARVIN   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 08:04:44 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) & Subject: Re: DEC 3000 M 400 ASIC error3 Message-ID: <GWjHcLRuovSD@eisner.encompasserve.org>   S In article <beponi$mi6$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> writes:  > Bob, > B > I have DEC 3000/300 and the Hardware Reference Guide section 8-3 > Console-Level Problems states  > K > ASIC - Ensure the proper seating of the CPU module and reexecute the ASIC  > diagnostic to verify.  >   E    Interesting.  I had the system open for other reasons and reseated F    the non-CPU chip, then just for grins I reseated the CPU chip.  The    problem went away.   F    In the meantime I had executed an explicit TEST ASIC, which gave an0    address at which it reported a data mismatch.  F    Now I've got to start looking around for a new I/O daughterboard.  G    I've burnt out the keyboard circiut while messing with something on  D    the DB25.  (Thse mouse is OK and swapping keyboards didn't help).F    All I can get from hitting keys is keyclick, and the console claimsF    they keyboard isn't there.  Nothing obiviosly damaged on the board.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:12:49 +0800  From: "xgr" <xinggr@lucent.com> ? Subject: Digi Acceleport Async Adapter problem on OpenVMS 7.3-1 1 Message-ID: <beudq1$335@netnews.proxy.lucent.com>    All,  G I have a Digi Acceleport Async Adapter (which connects to a 16-port Xem I box,each port have 9600bps rate) on Alpha server (running OpenVMS 7.3-1), ' and each port is looped back via cable.   G Now, I'm testing this adapter's performance via QIO system service, but + encountered some issues. Here is procedure: G 1, create a real-time thread (POSIX standard) to send/receive over each ; port, which uses FIFO scheduling strategy with priority 30; A 2, this thread will read all 16 ports one-by-one, here is the QIO  invocation: G  status=SYS$QIO(efn, chan[cno], IO$_READVBLK|IO$M_NOECHO|IO$M_NOFORMAT, 2    &iosb[cno], read_ast, cno, (char*)&buffer[cno],$    8*sizeof(int), 0, &p4_addr, 0, 0))  (Note: p4_addr denotes frame terminator) E 3, after sleeping 100ms, send data frame (32 bytes) to these 16 ports ' one-by-one, here is the QIO invocation: <  status=SYS$QIO(efn, chan[cno], IO$_WRITEVBLK|IO$M_NOFORMAT,&    &iosb[cno], 0, 0, (char*)&buffer_w,    8*sizeof(int), 0, 0, 0, 0) . 4, repeat step 2 thru 3 for (36000 * 7) times;  G The AST routine is used to verify the data received and issue next read  request, see below:  void read_ast(cno) {  .... //check data received  .... // read with QIOG  status=SYS$QIO(efn, chan[cno], IO$_READVBLK|IO$M_NOECHO|IO$M_NOFORMAT, 2    &iosb[cno], read_ast, cno, (char*)&buffer[cno],%    8*sizeof(int), 0, &p4_addr, 0, 0);  }   H With the 100ms interval, the adapter works very well for 6-7 hours, but,I when I decrease the interval from 100ms to 50ms, lots of errors have been , detected, such as frame lost and data error.  K Could someone please explain why the adapter works well with 100ms interval $ but have problem with 50ms interval?  H Another approach is to create 2 threads, each is responsible for 8 portsJ (1-8 and 9-16) with the same logic. In this way, with 50ms interval, afterK running several minutes, the 2nd thread (9-16 port) stopped to send/receive  data frame. What's the problem?    Thanks,   	 Guangrong    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:43:09 +0100 % From: David Gray <police@spamcop.net>  Subject: FTP Greeting 8 Message-ID: <r2r4hvcti38gj6ntihepufc5c3kh51tesv@4ax.com>   Greetings,      
 OpenVMS 7.3-1     B Can anyone tell me how I can get VMS FTP to show a greeting when a remote user logs in?     Dave.         ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:22:42 +0200 < From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de> Subject: Re: FTP Greeting 8 Message-ID: <beu09r$8seu7$1@ID-56200.news.uni-berlin.de>   David Gray wrote:  > OpenVMS 7.3-1  > D > Can anyone tell me how I can get VMS FTP to show a greeting when a > remote user logs in?  ? Assuming you're talking about TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS here: L http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6526/6526pro_028.html#ftp_logicals_secI says the equivalence name of the system logical TCPIP$FTP_SERVER_ANNOUNCE  is the banner shown upon login.    cu,    Martin --F   OpenVMS:                | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3    The operating system   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de F    God runs the           |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:    earth simulation on.   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:45:48 +0100 % From: David Gray <police@spamcop.net>  Subject: Re: FTP Greeting 8 Message-ID: <1e25hv4v68m132k819jfr7be0q6f6uvt1g@4ax.com>   That's the one, thanks.    	Dave.    7 On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:22:42 +0200, "Martin Vorlaender" ) <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de> wrote:    >David Gray wrote: >> OpenVMS 7.3-1 >>E >> Can anyone tell me how I can get VMS FTP to show a greeting when a  >> remote user logs in?  > @ >Assuming you're talking about TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS here:M >http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6526/6526pro_028.html#ftp_logicals_sec J >says the equivalence name of the system logical TCPIP$FTP_SERVER_ANNOUNCE  >is the banner shown upon login. >  >cu,	 >  Martin    ------------------------------   Date: 14 Jul 2003 11:12:30 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) # Subject: Getting rid of DECwindows? 0 Message-ID: <beu36u$67q$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>   Hello,  E we have a VAX-cluster here that started life somewhen in 1987. On the K system-disk there is a lot of DECwindows stuff. But none of the VAX cluster L members starts or uses DECwindows anymore. Thus, I would like to remove this4 stuff from the disk. Is it safe to do something like$  DELETE sysdevice:[sys0...]decw*.*;*J ? Or is there some deinstallation procedure? It seems to be version 1.2 of DECwindows.   M System parameters are set up to supress DECWndows. Anything else to consider?    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieA  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:20:31 +0100 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>  Subject: Re: iSCSI anyone?0 Message-ID: <beuop0$f80$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   John Gemignani, Jr. wrote:M > "Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy" <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> = > wrote in message news:be4479$lnv$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com...  >  >>Jim Brankin wrote: >>I >>>"John Gemignani, Jr." <jon-nope@thiswontworkossc.net> wrote in message  > ; > news:<6lZMa.26115$Jw6.9846123@news1.news.adelphia.net>...  > L >>>>Is there anyone interested in running software-based iSCSI client and/orL >>>>server on OpenVMS?  I have some rather advanced work in this area and amI >>>>seeking suggestions and needs on the way to productization.  In fact,  >  > when > 0 >>>>ready, I could use a few test sites as well. >>>>	 >>>>-John  >>>  >>>  >>>Hi John,  >>> H >>>   I can see that there is a market for a software based solution butG >>>I would have thought it was small. Surely HP must eventually produce F >>>iSCSI products based on one of the host-based adapters. Several areI >>>mentioned in the FAQ at http://technomagesinc.com/iscsi_faq.html. When G >>>that happens, they will take the serious users of iSCSI and you will = >>>be left with the folk who are using it on an ah-hoc basis.  >>>  >> >  >     Couple of points: N >         The protocol is still emerging, and purchasing a card soon may yield > headaches.K >         For redundency you may have to purchase additional cards (akin to  > redundant NICs) K >         if a problem should arise.  I also don't believe that those cards  > will be cheap, but if I >         you have the dough for a lot of storage, you'll have it for the  > adapters.  But then, if H >         you have the dough for your big servers, what about your other
 > systems? > M >         You are also assuming that the iSCSI targets are not going to be on 
 > any of your N >         servers.  For those with VAXes yet, you are assuming that someone is > making an  >         adapter for them.  > M >         You forget that most of Windows is used on an ad-hoc basis.  VMS is 
 > just oneJ >         version of the product.  I am confident that my phone will ring. >  > ? >>You really nead a Gigabit card that supports TOE for iSCSI to < >>be performant otherwise the stack ends up being to much of >>a performance drag.  >  > ' >     Is this measured, or theoretical?  >   * A number of articles cite TOE performance.  , http://www.iscsistorage.com/iscsidevices.htm* http://www.trebia.com/pdf/Tech_note_44.pdf    B >         I assume that's theoretical.  Here are the measurements: > I >         With an AS255 4/300 reading a disk (COPY) from an XP1000 with a  > 6/667, I was able toJ >         transfer about 1.2MBYTES/second.  Using the same 6/667 writing a > disk on an ES40 6/1000I >         (BACKUP/IMAGE/INIT) I get 2.3 MBYTES/second.  In both cases the  > systems certainly DOI >         NOT run out of CPU time.  The EV6's spend only a few percentage  > points on the interrupt stack N >         (the ES40 is about 2-3%, which REALLY astonished me).  The AS255 has > 10Mbit through aJ >         10/100 switch to the XP1000 with 100Mbit.  The XP's 100MBit goes > through switches and/ >         eventually through fiber to the ES40.  >   D 1.2-2.3 MB/s however is very slow compared with what you can achieve@ either with directly attached storage or with SAN based storage.  C based on your results pushing ~60MB/s over Gigabit ethernet using a @ standard NIC could result a CPU load of between 50 and 75%. This? would be much less acceptable when the alternative using DAS oro' a SAN would have a much lower overhead.e    L >         On an AS1200 with 2x5/533's, using localhost (client and server on > the same machine), IJ >         am transferring 6.2 MBytes/second at about 62% CPU utilitzation. > The same local copy F >         gives 6.8MBytes/second.  Keep in mind that with the loopback > interface there is more dataG >         copying going on, and the host has both the client and serverc > overhead on it.e > L >         These tests allow unsolicited data to be transferred up to 64K-512 > bytes per PDU, and with N >         a single connection.  Multiple connections will be added if enabled. > L >         The above is only caching on the client side (XQP and XFC/VCC).  I > am working on addingE >         caching to the server right now to get a feel for how writer > performance would differ.p > E >         By the way, does MSCP require a gigabit card with TOE to beh! > performant?  I think you'll geth( >         a lot of feedback on that one. > ! > -Thank you both for your input.e >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 06:13:03 +0000 (UTC)oP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)5 Subject: looking for used hardware in UK, NL, B, D, SL$ Message-ID: <bethlf$ns7$1@online.de>  H I will be doing some travelling in the next few weeks and would like to F collect some used hardware for use in my hobbyist cluster as I go.  I D plan to be in Sweden 21--31 July, drive through the Netherlands and G Belgium on the way to Calais between then and 5 August, and will be in -G England 5--10 August.  This weekend (19--20) I will be driving between  H Frankfurt am Main and Lneburg in Germany, and on Sunday 10 August will G be driving from Calais to Frankfurt am Main, taking me through France,   Belgium and Germany.  B I'm looking for any ALPHAs except the very early ones which are no@ longer supported under VMS 7.3 (though I WOULD welcome a TadpoleE ALPHAbook, even though it is no longer supported under 7.3), any SCSIt; VAXes "VAXstation 3100 or better" as long as they are small G (desktop-size).  Also, I'm interested in disk drives of 1 GB or larger hC for use with these systems, both "internal" disks and SBBs.  Extra  I memory would also be interesting.  A DLT drive would be nice.  Terminals hE and keyboards are always interesting, as are all sorts of cables and n; mice.  Hubs, repeaters, switches etc would be nice as well.p  F Please email me to discuss when and where I can collect the stuff, as + I'm still planning the details of my route.w   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 09:03:04 -0000= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>i9 Subject: Re: looking for used hardware in UK, NL, B, D, Sa6 Message-ID: <20030714090304.26494.qmail@gacracker.org>  M On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove- CLOTHES to reply) wrote:I >I will be doing some travelling in the next few weeks and would like to RG >collect some used hardware for use in my hobbyist cluster as I go.  I rE >plan to be in Sweden 21--31 July, drive through the Netherlands and "H >Belgium on the way to Calais between then and 5 August, and will be in H >England 5--10 August.  This weekend (19--20) I will be driving between I >Frankfurt am Main and Lneburg in Germany, and on Sunday 10 August will  H >be driving from Calais to Frankfurt am Main, taking me through France,  >Belgium and Germany.u  I Good luck in your hunt for hardware, but I'd like to ask first refusal onoG anything in Belgium. :)  As per Phillip's comments - nothing too heavy.t     Doc. -- iK OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:41:43 +0200 $ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>9 Subject: Re: looking for used hardware in UK, NL, B, D, S 9 Message-ID: <beu4in$8lddo$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>   E On 14-Jul-2003 08:13, Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:   J > I will be doing some travelling in the next few weeks and would like to K > collect some used hardware for use in my hobbyist cluster as I go.  [...]   . You didn't hit the 96 nodes limit already? :-)   Michaeln   --    @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system.o= And don't annoy me <mailto:postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> please ;-)    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:12:24 +0000 (UTC)0P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)9 Subject: Re: looking for used hardware in UK, NL, B, D, Sc$ Message-ID: <beuh8o$kr6$1@online.de>  G In article <beu4in$8lddo$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>, Michael Unger  <unger@decus.de> writes: -  G > On 14-Jul-2003 08:13, Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:- > L > > I will be doing some travelling in the next few weeks and would like to M > > collect some used hardware for use in my hobbyist cluster as I go.  [...]w > 0 > You didn't hit the 96 nodes limit already? :-)  1 Sorry, should have said "hobbyist clusters".  :-)-*                                          ^   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:54:46 +1000 : From: "David McKenzie" <david.mckenzie@paradigm-shift.biz>I Subject: Re: More than VMS is required, but VMS is a great starting point C Message-ID: <3f1253e0$0$95042$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net>h  L This is a jurisdiction question. In general most countries, called states inK international law, believe that they can legislate extra-terrotorially, andaK if fact do. In a federation, such as the US or Australia, the states, which J really are *states* are allowed to legislate as far as federal law has notD displaced state law. Most federal systems have a precedance law that@ determines whether or not state law or federal law is paramount.  E Having said all that there is the issue of whether or not a state can K enforce an extra-terrotorial law. Almost certainly if a company has assestsoI in that state they can in civil law. One should also be aware of the HighmH Court decison in Australia Dow Jones & Company Inc v Gutnick 194 ALR 433J where it was ruled that Victorian (Australia) jurisdiction applied becauseJ that was the place of download for an article that was written in New YorkI and loaded onto a server in New Jersey. Dow Jows will have to comply with.I the High Court ruling because thaey have assetts in Victoria.It sholud besK noted that there is an open question as to whether that also applies to theOL precess of discovery of information that is on a network accessable from theI place where jurisdiction is asserted, see recent rulings on Mcabe v BAT a 
 tobacco case.   J So in short, yes, there is lots of legal precedent to say this enforcable, and legally so,a   David McKenzie   OpenVMS and International Lawe  9 david.mckenzie@paradigm-shift.dot.biz    (remove the dot)n    > "Paddy O'Brien" <paddy.o'brien@tg.nsw.gov.au> wrote in message$ news:3F052D71.70009@tg.nsw.gov.au... >o >v > Russell Wallace wrote:J > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:33:57 GMT, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote: > >a > > I > >>A California law that takes effect July 1 will force companies insidemI > >>and outside the state to do what they historically have been loath too< > >>do: disclose embarrassing information-security breaches. > >i > > H > > I'm no lawyer, so perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but how canC > > the California legislature exert force on companies that aren't  > > located in California? > >:E > Well, neither am I.  But I would take a guess that it's because the8" > companies are trading within CA. >A > Regards, Paddy >> >u >cI > ***********************************************************************g >aE > "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privilegedo? > and confidential information intended only for the use of the-C > addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient ofgE > this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise.C > the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,@9 > distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.t > B > If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGridB > immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the> > individual sender except where the sender expressly and withE > authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses @ > virus scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses > contained in any attachment. >b> > Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now& > firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au" >3I > ***********************************************************************  >.   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 08:09:39 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)d+ Subject: Re: My Alpha has no panties on !!!-3 Message-ID: <kHTB9rfV1CvZ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   [ In article <3F12214C.91C78762@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:  > I > D'ya ever notice that we talk about a "pair" of panties, but at any onerI > time, a woman (or ??) wears just one bra? (with apologies to Gallagher)g  H    That may change.  Seems someone came up with a bra for sagging seats.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:30:42 -0400 8 From: Jim Agnew - VCU/MCV Neurosurgery <jpagnew@vcu.edu>+ Subject: Re: My Alpha has no panties on !!!t' Message-ID: <3F12B082.914A14A4@vcu.edu>o   Bob Koehler wrote: > ] > In article <3F12214C.91C78762@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:  > >hK > > D'ya ever notice that we talk about a "pair" of panties, but at any onenK > > time, a woman (or ??) wears just one bra? (with apologies to Gallagher)I > J >    That may change.  Seems someone came up with a bra for sagging seats.   I thought that was a girdle...   j.   -- aF "4,000 years ago I made a mistake."  Elrond Half-Elven, in "Fellowship of the Ring"  F "I try not to be right any more than necessary". -- Larry Wall, author of the Perl Language   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:11:13 -0400a& From: "Island" <dbturner@islandco.com>+ Subject: Re: My Alpha has no panties on !!!w/ Message-ID: <vh5i46roj1qj34@news.supernews.com>.  E "Jim Agnew - VCU/MCV Neurosurgery" <jpagnew@vcu.edu> wrote in messagee! news:3F12B082.914A14A4@vcu.edu...  > Bob Koehler wrote: > >s? > > In article <3F12214C.91C78762@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera"  <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:w > > >iI > > > D'ya ever notice that we talk about a "pair" of panties, but at any- one-B > > > time, a woman (or ??) wears just one bra? (with apologies to
 Gallagher) > > L > >    That may change.  Seems someone came up with a bra for sagging seats. >r  > I thought that was a girdle...  / I thought that was the House of Representatives    DT     >8 > j. >5 > --  H > "4,000 years ago I made a mistake."  Elrond Half-Elven, in "Fellowship > of the Ring" > H > "I try not to be right any more than necessary". -- Larry Wall, author > of the Perl Language   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:08:31 -04000& From: "Island" <dbturner@islandco.com>+ Subject: Re: My Alpha has no panties on !!! / Message-ID: <vh5hv432f4frfd@news.supernews.com>s   Christof  3 All the emails I send to you are being rejected !!! - Hence, I am emailing you thru this Newsgroup.s  - Please respond with correct/new email addresse   Message of rejection here:      9 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at dachs.cyberlink.ch.oL I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.C This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.h   <brass@infopuls.com>:g6 Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)  - --- Below this line is a copy of the message.    Return-Path: <david@hpaq.net>pH Received: (qmail 19238 invoked by uid 64014); 14 Jul 2003 15:07:54 -0000I Received: from david@hpaq.net by dachs by uid 600 with qmail-scanner-1.16yD  (perlscan: 1.16. trophie: 6.150-1001/587/48941. spamassassin: 2.52.$ Clear:. Processed in 0.387674 secs);  14 Jul 2003 15:07:54 -0000 3 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: david@hpaq.net via dachso: X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 0.387674 secs)D Received: from unknown (HELO webserver.islandco.com) (66.147.64.250)=   by dachs.cyberlink.ch with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 15:07:54 -00000) Received: from dbturner ([192.168.0.119])HE by webserver.islandco.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with SMTP id h6EF8XE32737862? for <brass@infopuls.com>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:08:44 -0400 (EDT)s5 Message-ID: <01c501c34a19$6e32b2c0$7700a8c0@dbturner> ) Reply-To: "David Turner" <david@hpaq.net>-% From: "David Turner" <david@hpaq.net>-) To: "Brass Christof" <brass@infopuls.com>n Subject: The cards% Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:05:47 -0400o' Organization: Island Computers US Corp.a MIME-Version: 1.0u$ Content-Type: multipart/alternative;4 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BF_01C349F7.E0D06790"
 X-Priority: 3b X-MSMail-Priority: Normal 2 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158< Disposition-Notification-To: "David Turner" <david@hpaq.net>8 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_01BF_01C349F7.E0D06790  Content-Type: text/plain;S charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableH   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:07:40 +0200r) From: "Jean Mertens" <jmertens@skynet.be> * Subject: OpenVMS - Remot emailbox (Decnet)< Message-ID: <3f12c6e7$0$271$ba620e4c@reader0.news.skynet.be>  G Using SYS$CREMBX, how to connect to a mailbox on another node (OpenVMS)t (using Fortran preferrably)rJ or using regular OPEN Fortran statement in order to send mail box messages that are quite long ?h  E The remote mailbox has been created on remote node (NODEB) also usinga SYS$CREMBX..G It has a logical name in system table, let's say NODEB_MBX and has beeni, assigned the physical pseudo device MBAxxxx:L It's size is let's say 3600 bytes and it is able to receive 5 messages (that is 3600 * 5 bytes totally). 7 NODEA wants to open that remote mailbox with SYS$CREMBX K A proxy on NODEB allows NODEA user (the one that wants to open remotely thes mail box) to use NODEB::C to reach NODEB defaults account (the one that has first created the/	 mailbox).d  H Using SYS$CREMBX ( CHANEL , NODEB::NODEB_MBX ) , on NODEA I keep gettingI "Invalid device" as if NODEA was not able to decode the logical NODEB_MBXl
 into MBAxxxx:t  L The Fortran Open with mail box name NODEB::"NODEB_MBX" ( mail box logical in between 2 double quotes) works.oI I can send short messages (about 80 bytes) but I keep getting mail box is3) too small when trying to send 3600 bytes.0  K The send message is done with regular QIO (not Fortran WRITE) on chanel (ore< fortran opened unit) assigned to mail box by CREMBX or OPEN.  I I played around with the OPEN statement (different options such as RECL =p* different values, ACCESS, CARRIAGECONTROL,J RECORDTYPE, FORMATED/UNFORMATED, etc ...). I keep getting the mail box too0 small problem or I get an invalid record length.  F For info, I did try also the SYS$ASSIGN , but this gives same error as $CREMBX.  G Also I'm not interested in the Non-transparent methode explained in therB DECNET manuals . I tried this and that's too heavy for my purpose.  = Help greatly appreciated (code example even more appreciated)o   Thanks in advancef Jean   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:02:07 +0200h< From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de>5 Subject: Re: OpenVMS running under simh, ucx problem.r8 Message-ID: <betv35$8gdi9$1@ID-56200.news.uni-berlin.de>   Peter Sutter wrote:bD > Everything works fine, except for one slight problem with ucx. ucxB > seems to work fine, with one exception: There is one node on theF > network which is unreachable, and that is the linux box the emulatorE > runs on. This goes both ways, the emulated vax can't connect to thehG > linux box, and the linux box can't connect to the emulated vax. Both, A > the linux box and the emulated vax can connect to anything elsen > without any problems.] >n> > Physically, both use the same network card, although I use aG > different MAC address on the emulated vax. The emulator is running inpA > superuser mode and puts the network card into promiscuous mode.   F See the recent thread "Q: SIMH/VAX on Linux: XWindows on the same host' without network?", e.g. (wrapping URL!)eL http://groups.google.de/groups?th=62c78fe4a8dba263&seekm=adeef81b.0307031446 .4842cc86%40posting.google.com  E However, I've seen posts claiming they did it using TUN/TAP (whatever  that is...).   cu,e   Martin --F   OpenVMS:                | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3    The operating system   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deoF    God runs the           |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:    earth simulation on.   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:17:09 +0100mO From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>)Y Subject: Re: OpenVMS, and Itanium2 and Itanium2 6M (was: Re: HP Webcast thismorning on Nel0 Message-ID: <beu707$9ak$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Nic Clews wrote:* > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: >  > @ >>However when Superdomes were announced they were introduced as? >>being Itanium ready and at the time everyone expected that to  >>be Merced. >>= >>HP then found that Merced was slower than the current HP-PA0C >>processor and said they were canning Merced for Domes and waitingZ >>for Mckinley.s >>> >>Mckinley came along and there were no sightings of Mckinleys >>in Domes that you could buy. >>C >>The biggest laugh of all if you don't work for HP is the HP N4000 > >>announced as being IA-64 ready but discontinued before IA-64 >>was ready. >  > J > But the point is, you can just pull out the old chip and slot in the new > one. >     ? Not quite, you pull the HP-PA Cell board and replace it with and> Itanium Cell board its a bit more than just a chip replacement6 these are the most expensive components in the system.   But why would you want to ??  : The Dome is bandwidth and I/O limitted this doesn't change8 when you swap HP-PA Cell boards for Itanium Cell boards.  9 When the Dome was announced its backplane might well havee< supported 64 Itanium 1 CPU's but now its expected to support; Mkinley instead it looks increasingly hampered. Bisectional : bandwidth of ~25 GB/s puts it bottom of the class in large) SMP systems behind F15K, P690 and GS1280.:  6 And then you get to the software problem ~400 apps for, HP-UX/Itanium vs ~5000 apps for HP-UX/HP-PA.  7 > You *do not* have to replace the motherboard, IO, ...t > ( > Compare that with going EV68 to EV7... >   5 Ahh but then at least you preserved your applicationsh6 probably more work moving to another app than swapping out the chassis.  J > You can even replace the single CPU 'carrier' with a twin CPU carrier (4 > in the space of 2).o > J > This is an architecture, it is not about a chip for today, or yesterday.B > It scores in two major areas for us as a "cpu service" provider,H > floorspace CPU density, and investment protection in regards to future? > upgrades. Sadly Alpha's never been really great in this area.  >   > You missed saying its an architecture for the future, probably@ a good thing since anyone examining the SuperDome backplane, I/O; architecture would have to conclude that if the CPU is the T> superstructure in a systems architecture then the foundations,; I/O and interconnect of HP's current high end platform look-
 pretty dodgy.1   regards1 Andrew Harrisonr   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 00:03:50 -0700 From: user@lngs.infn.it-< Subject: Re: Problem with XDM ( tcpip v5.3 on axp/vms 7.3-1)= Message-ID: <1729f461.0307132303.7047748b@posting.google.com>   Y Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message news:<bemg2g$sgh$1@lore.csc.com>...n > < > Have you created XACCESS.TXT in SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$XDM] ? >  > (there is a *.TEMPLATE file)  8 Yes, in SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$XDM] there is a copy of the > xaccess.template to  xaccess.txt. It should allow access from 	 any host:C #... #r  H *                                       #any host can get a login window   #c #...   More ideas? Thank you, bye.rI _________________________________________________________________________l   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:57:27 +0100j* From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]>< Subject: Re: Problem with XDM ( tcpip v5.3 on axp/vms 7.3-1)' Message-ID: <betrf7$afe$1@lore.csc.com>i   user@lngs.infn.it wrote: >   9 > Yes, in SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$XDM] there is a copy of thee? > xaccess.template to  xaccess.txt. It should allow access fromr > any host:    > More ideas? Thank you, bye.d  E OK, that was the obvious one as the install guide doesn't mention it.l  E There is another thread here discussing X access, but this is what to 	 try next:i   On the VMS box, 1 $ SET DISPLAY/CREATE/TRANSPORT=TCPIP/NODE=a.b.c.db $ RUN DECW$EXAMPLES:ICO.  E You will either get a window on the X display, or an error message onS1 the VMS box which should help get to the problem.t  G If it's a "can't open display" variety, the issue is probably on your XS@ display, possibly in the security or general window access area.  D You don't mention if the VMS system has a graphics display, is the XC display showing OK there? If this is a newly installed system, it's G quite probable the SYSGEN parameters need adjustment for the windows to E successfully run, the error is reported by the STARTUP process on the  console.   -- i? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciencesa nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:35:29 GMT0" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG, Subject: Questions from Pat St. Laurent @ HP0 Message-ID: <00A22D84.820F8F8D@SendSpamHere.ORG>  J I received an email from a Pat St. Laurent at HP asking me questions aboutK product web site, product support and future plans to support on VMS in theZ future.A  K Since HP has not *YET* fixed their email system so that I can respond, I amhK not able to reply to Pat's questions.  If anybody within HP knows this Pat,VK please ask him/her to provide another email address so that I *CAN* respondmK or slap the HP email support group upside the head and get email fixed (the08 probability of the latter is, of course, slim to none).    --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMc             5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" f   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2003 11:24:36 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)a0 Subject: Re: Questions from Pat St. Laurent @ HP3 Message-ID: <wGEz9soDdBCj@eisner.encompasserve.org>r  j In article <O5BQa.157$X4.44@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> writes: > M > I sent you mail with her address.  In general just take the name and hp.com ! > for example - first.last@hp.coma  % Brian's issue is not email addresses.l  G There is a problem in that HP's email system rejects email from Brian'sdH IP address, and no HP employee who deals with Brian has been abl to find! who at HP could fix that problem.p   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:44:30 GMTs9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com>o0 Subject: Re: Questions from Pat St. Laurent @ HP. Message-ID: <O5BQa.157$X4.44@news.cpqcorp.net>  K I sent you mail with her address.  In general just take the name and hp.comn for example - first.last@hp.com3      , <VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:00A22D84.820F8F8D@SendSpamHere.ORG...L > I received an email from a Pat St. Laurent at HP asking me questions aboutI > product web site, product support and future plans to support on VMS ing the 	 > future.e >rJ > Since HP has not *YET* fixed their email system so that I can respond, I amH > not able to reply to Pat's questions.  If anybody within HP knows this Pat,E > please ask him/her to provide another email address so that I *CAN*d responddH > or slap the HP email support group upside the head and get email fixed (the9 > probability of the latter is, of course, slim to none).b >o > --4 > VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001 VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM >a6 >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" >n   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:29:40 -0400o8 From: Jim Agnew - VCU/MCV Neurosurgery <jpagnew@vcu.edu>Y Subject: Re: Redirecting screen output from FMS to files and displaying them using an emup' Message-ID: <3F12B044.681A005B@vcu.edu>   
 Deepak wrote:  > & > > but, what do you mean by a "dump"? > F > They want to get rid of the VMS system, but still be able to see theF > static data in the online FMS screens exactly as they are doing now. > ForBC > this they want to dump all the screen views possible (millions of& > them)oG > into files. This dump should be in a format that is understandable to,C > a screen emulator. So that when they need to see the screen for a E > particular key, they can use the emulator to read the dump file andaF > display the screen. So it will look as though they are seeing an FMS< > screen though the emulator will be running on Unix/Windows > F > > do you want to print off the screen to allow the new developers to > > duplicate it?a >  > No, that is not the idea.t > = > > do you need "functional" electronic copies of the screen?d >  > Yes, that's the idea.o > 	 > Thanks,  >  > Deepak > i > Jim Agnew - VCU/MCV Neurosurgery <jpagnew@vcu.edu> wrote in message news:<3F0EBBA2.13A94622@vcu.edu>...03 > > sorry to hear that you company is that offbeat.j > >FK > > however, you can write up "screen scrapers" in Kermit to download this.e > >,& > > but, what do you mean by a "dump"? > >eF > > do you want to print off the screen to allow the new developers to > > duplicate it?  > >-0 > > do you need electronic copies of the screen? > >2= > > do you need "functional" electronic copies of the screen?s > >d. > > can you enlighten us with your wants, sir? > >s > > Jim5 > >n > > Deepak wrote:  > > > 	 > > > Hi,  > > >nL > > > The company I work for is shutting down their VMS system at the end ofL > > > the year. We use FMS for displaying online screens. We want to know if > > > there is some way we can > > >7K > > > 1. Dump the FMS screen output from online applications to text files.n > > > 4 > > > 2. Display this screen dump using an emulator. > > >eL > > > Is there any way we can do this? I would greatly appreciate if someone# > > > could suggest some solutions.  > > >oI > > > Also, we are using VT400 7-bit emulators (Attachmate Enterprise and L > > > WRQ Reflection) to diplay the VMS screens now. Is there any way we canA > > > display the corresponding screen dumps in a VT220 emulator.o > > >u6 > > > Please post a reply if you have any suggestions. > > >  > > > Thank you. > > >  > > > Deepak  B This following URL has a Sector 7 product "designed to port FMS to unix."  Now, that would ? be able to run fms, but would it run your database, that is thed question.   Best to you.  2 http://www.sector7.com/openvms-to-windows-unix.htm --  F "4,000 years ago I made a mistake."  Elrond Half-Elven, in "Fellowship of the Ring"  F "I try not to be right any more than necessary". -- Larry Wall, author of the Perl Language   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:08:08 +1000a: From: "David McKenzie" <david.mckenzie@paradigm-shift.biz>S Subject: Re: Tri-architecture cluster demonstrated at DECUS Ottawa Technical UpdateaC Message-ID: <3f126511$0$95045$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net>p  A "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message60 news:20030705051741.19174.qmail@nym.alias.net...J > On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, "David McKenzie" <david.mckenzie@paradigm-shift.biz> > wrote: >lF > >Why isn't it possible to get back to a system where all players are honest,iE > >and there is that which is supported, i.e. no option but for HP toI	 provide aoC > >solution, and that which is reasonable, "should work, negligencer	 accepted,sJ > >but stupidity ignored", and " your on your own mate, it might work, but it > >might not". > 7 > You'd have to drown a hell of a lot of lawyers first., >  > :) >h >r > Doc. > --  D > OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems.  @ No You have to get good lawyers to phrase it properly. After allA micro$*mumble* (obscenity laws) manage to get away with far worseu disclaimers in shrink wrap law   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:29:54 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond)r& Subject: Re: vms 7.3.1 install problem0 Message-ID: <mfyQa.145$7O7.111@news.cpqcorp.net>  v In article <p6LPa.7809$Vx2.3832577@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>, "Phillip R Sobottke" <psobottke@ameritech.net> writes:L >I'm trying to install 7.3.1 on an alphaserver 1200.  The install completed,E >but after running autogen..it hangs on the reboot and kicks out.  It.L >mentions an error about unable to load the terminal.  I remember a year agoK >when installing 7.2.1 on this machine, I got a similar error..and fixed itIE >by modifing some parameters using sysgen.  Anyone have any idea whatk1 >parameters I need to change, and to what values?e   Did you have current feedback?  H A recent (one week or less?) execution of $@SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN SAVPARAMS will usually avoid this.   -- >J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.386 ************************>>>that happens, they will take the serious users of iSCSI and you will = >>>be left with the folk who are using it on an ah-hoc basis.  >>>  >> >  >     Couple of points: N >         The protocol is still emerging, and purchasing a card soon may yield > headaches.K >         For redundency you may have to purchase additional cards (akin to  > redundant NICsr.\Ɯyv,T;8 cB=quqCu?TShR5V
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