1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 27 Jul 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 411       Contents:/ ANN: New additions to HG VMS Freeware Archive!! " Re: Compiling PINE 3.91-2 for AXP.$ Debugging inbount telnet connections( Re: Debugging inbount telnet connections( Re: Debugging inbount telnet connectionsP Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS731_CDRECORD-V0100--4.PCSI v. DEC-AXPVMS-VMS731_PCSI-V0100--4.$ Re: Does RT-11 run on the PDP-11/70?? Re: Does RT-11 run on the PDP-11/70? (was Re: PDP-11 OS Release P Re: Does RT-11 run on the PDP-11/70? (was Re: PDP-11 OS Release Dates) Dates)Dat+ Re: HP World: Why Alpha's Omega Makes Sense + Re: HP World: Why Alpha's Omega Makes Sense 2 Re: Migrate obsolete VAX/VMS SW to OpenVMS Itanium2 Re: Migrate obsolete VAX/VMS SW to OpenVMS Itanium2 Re: Migrate obsolete VAX/VMS SW to OpenVMS Itanium1 Re: OpenVMS homepage and 'sales.liveperson.net' ? " Re: Packed decimal arithmetic in C" RE: Packed decimal arithmetic in C" Re: Packed decimal arithmetic in C" Re: Packed decimal arithmetic in C/ Re: Problem sending SMTP mail:  SMTP_NOSUCHUSER  Re: Sun and SCO   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 26 Jul 2003 20:46:20 -0700- From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) 8 Subject: ANN: New additions to HG VMS Freeware Archive!!= Message-ID: <3ff5fed3.0307261946.7680c713@posting.google.com>   B Hello!  It's been a while, but I have some contributions to my VMSB freeware archives to announce.  But first, I've been delinquent in> announcing that Encompasserve is now mirroring my VMS freewareE archives on ftp.encompasserve.org.  Thanks to Encompasserve and Steve   Arnold for providing the mirror!  4 Lyle W. West has contributed the following packages:  >   - LWW-DECWDISP - Display information similar to SHOW DISPLAYH   - LWW-FUNCT-KEYS - Programs to display keymap and define function keys:   - LWW-MODIFY-ATTRIB - Programs to modify file attributes8   - LWW-PERSONA - Login as another user (GLOGIN rewrite)E   - LWW-PERSONA-DECW - Create a new DECterm logged in as another user 7   - LWW-USERINFO - Display user information from SYSUAF   * And Terry R. Friedrichsen has contributed:  F   - TRF-LIB$SEARCH - lib$search(), a C routine that simplifies calling                      $SEARCH  D Thanks to Lyle and Terry for the contributions!  The packages can be4 downloaded via anonymous FTP from FTP.PROCESS.COM in? [.VMS-FREEWARE.FILESERV], or you can visit the Process Software  OpenVMS Resource Center:   http://www.process.com/openvms/   @ The packages will show up on the mirror sites within the next 24 hours.   Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ ; <goathunter@GOATLEY.COM>     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jul 2003 14:55:50 -0700- From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) + Subject: Re: Compiling PINE 3.91-2 for AXP. = Message-ID: <3ff5fed3.0307261355.2fda4e06@posting.google.com>   \ "Brian Tillman" <Tillman@sparkingwire.com> wrote in message news:<3f2184a7$1@news.si.com>...  B > >If so, where can I find the best version of GCC for VMS on AXP? > M > It used to be available at ftp://ftp.progis.de/pub/vms/gcc/ , but that site H > no longer allows anonymous FTP.  It also used to be mirrored at HunterN > Goatley's site when he was at Western Kentucky University, but he apparentlyN > didn't take or was asked not to take those sources with him when he moved toL > Process Software.  So, there doesn't seem to be any GCC or G++ for OpenVMS > Alpha any more.  > D I don't remember why I didn't put it on Process's FTP server---spaceH limitations, maybe.  Any way, the Progis GCC for Alpha can be downloaded( from Terry Kennedy's mirror of my stuff:  , ftp://ftp.tmk.com/vms-freeware/gcc-for-alpha  F As David mentioned, I've heard it generates bad object code, but never actually used it myself.   Hunter ------& Hunter Goatley, goathunter@goatley.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:58:40 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>- Subject: Debugging inbount telnet connections ) Message-ID: <3F22F98F.E5F61C1B@istop.com>   T If I write a serial terminal emulator on device X, I can easily debug it as follows:  K connect device to serial port TXB3:, and then, from any other terminal, SET  HOST/DTE TXB3:  L I can then, from a terminal, "exercise" the remote terminal emulator and seeM exactly what is being sent/received (especially with real terminals that have = the "view control characters" feature which lacks in DECterm)   H Now, if I write the same software but which uses TELNET to connect to myH machine, is there a way to achieve the same result ? (with the PDA still' making an outbound call to my VMS box).     N The only thing I can think of is to put a SET HOST/DTE on the LOGIN.COM of theK user which will be used by the remote telnet client so that when/if he does L get through and succeeds in negotiating the login, he will then connect to a "free" terminal.  + Any other ideas on how this could be done ?    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:02:48 GMT ; From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <jon-nope@thiswontworkossc.net> 1 Subject: Re: Debugging inbount telnet connections 8 Message-ID: <shHUa.80$gn6.78031@news1.news.adelphia.net>  7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:3F22F98F.E5F61C1B@istop.com... J > If I write a serial terminal emulator on device X, I can easily debug it as follows:  > I > connect device to serial port TXB3:, and then, from any other terminal,  SET  > HOST/DTE TXB3: > J > I can then, from a terminal, "exercise" the remote terminal emulator and see J > exactly what is being sent/received (especially with real terminals that have? > the "view control characters" feature which lacks in DECterm)  > J > Now, if I write the same software but which uses TELNET to connect to myJ > machine, is there a way to achieve the same result ? (with the PDA still) > making an outbound call to my VMS box).  >  > L > The only thing I can think of is to put a SET HOST/DTE on the LOGIN.COM of the H > user which will be used by the remote telnet client so that when/if he doesL > get through and succeeds in negotiating the login, he will then connect to a  > "free" terminal. > - > Any other ideas on how this could be done ?   I I'm not sure exactly where you want to place this ... before sending data 0 into TELNET, or when sending data out of TELNET.  L The INETACP uses a simple interface to bind and unbind a BG device to/from a5 TN device.  I believe that these QIOs are documented.   
 You could:  )     (1) Listen on a TCP socket, say 10023      (2) Accept a connection %     (3) Make a local connection to 23 5     (4) Route the input and output between the client '          (TELNET) and server (TNDRIVER)   L If you're talking about outbound, you could connect to a remote system (as aI TELNET client), and use the QIO interface to place a TN device on it, the  way TELNET CREATE SESSION does.    Would that do it?   K If you're looking to do the TELNET protocol yourself, set the protocol type H for the TN device to RAW, and you'd be expected to deal with the NVT and TELNET protocols (negotiation).    -John    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 23:26:53 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>1 Subject: Re: Debugging inbount telnet connections ) Message-ID: <3F234667.2CE30F80@istop.com>    "John Gemignani, Jr." wrote:K > I'm not sure exactly where you want to place this ... before sending data 2 > into TELNET, or when sending data out of TELNET.    N No, I just want to very easily see on a terminal what the remote telnet clientV is sending, and use that terminal's keyboard to send characters to that remote device.  N The TCPIP stack on the other device is poorly documented, so I need to be ableM to send stuff to it in variou schunks to see how it behaves. (The writes arte L easier since you know exactly how many bytes to write, but the reads are notN so obvious since you don't know how many bytes you need to read, unless you do3 single character IO which adds tremendous overhead.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:00:07 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>Y Subject: Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS731_CDRECORD-V0100--4.PCSI v. DEC-AXPVMS-VMS731_PCSI-V0100--4. - Message-ID: <87brvhosns.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   5 hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) writes:   B > Same logic applies to /[NO]RECOVERY_MODE.  Imagine if an OpenVMSE > upgrade -- including DECwindows, TCP/IP and DECnet Plus -- suddenly D > operated in RECOVERY_MODE.  The recovery data set would take aboutB > as much room as the installed operating system and LPs.  I doubtB > that many people have that much free space on their system disk!  = To the conterary, I'd expect everyone to have that much space C available on a system disk. VMS plus a full fruit LP is 2-3 GB, and 4 you are scratching to get a new disk under 20GB now.   As to changing.   A PCSI renames files rather than supersceding them, and now will be ? putting stuff into seperate directory trees. So why does it not = use version numbering to preserve old versions? OK, delete by ? renaming would still be needed, but why is PCSI totally version @ number adverse? Are versions to be removed from the file system?   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:05:58 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>- Subject: Re: Does RT-11 run on the PDP-11/70? - Message-ID: <877k65ose1.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   E "Christine Ricketts/Andrew Stewart" <u1276a@uxnxixtxe.com.au> writes:   ? > DEC PRO 350s as consoles?  The SECV got the first VAX 8500 in B > Australia.  It had a DEC PRO 380.  Our later VAX 8800s used themE > too.  The last VAX 8820 had a MicroVAX II as the console processor.   + That the one that was at the Soutern Cross?   @ > The Pro had an CTI option with Intel chips that gave one 8 bitC > parallel output port, one 8 bit parallel input port and one 8 bit @ > parallel bidirectional port.  I'm fairly sure this was how the* > Console Processor interfaced to the VAX.  = The Nautilii used a RTI board in the Pro to comunicate with a = interface to the backplane. The 85x0, 87x0 and original 88x0s - used a 350, than the 88x0s switched to a 380.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------   Date: 27 Jul 03 05:20:38 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) H Subject: Re: Does RT-11 run on the PDP-11/70? (was Re: PDP-11 OS Release) Message-ID: <xA8yF$7UaYOS@elias.decus.ch>   v In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307261957070.20635-100000@linuxserv.home>, Christian Corti <corticn@linuxserv.home> writes:# > On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Megan wrote: ( >> Could you send me a copy of music.pa? >  > I can give you a link:R > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-8/music/wilson/ > I > MUSIC.PA can be found along with lots of music files in this directory. K > Since the front panel PDP11s make similar noises like the PDP8s I thought K > it would be nice having the 11 playing music and showing "blinkenlights". K > Then taking a D/A converter with a scope and a program like the VC8E demo & > program... I'm thinking too fast ;-) >   @ Apologies, but "Blinkenlichten" has a bit more poetry to it than@ "blinkenlights" (incorrect German I know, but poetic license and	 all that)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:04:35 +0200 . From: Christian Corti <corticn@linuxserv.home>Y Subject: Re: Does RT-11 run on the PDP-11/70? (was Re: PDP-11 OS Release Dates) Dates)Dat E Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307261957070.20635-100000@linuxserv.home>   ! On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Megan wrote: ' > Could you send me a copy of music.pa?    I can give you a link:P http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-8/music/wilson/  G MUSIC.PA can be found along with lots of music files in this directory. I Since the front panel PDP11s make similar noises like the PDP8s I thought I it would be nice having the 11 playing music and showing "blinkenlights". I Then taking a D/A converter with a scope and a program like the VC8E demo $ program... I'm thinking too fast ;-)  	 Christian    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:58:13 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>4 Subject: Re: HP World: Why Alpha's Omega Makes Sense- Message-ID: <87isppoviy.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ( jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net> writes:  E > I don't know if it was 10 years, but it was quite a long time, with  > delays an everything.   ? You are aware that Alpha and the Itam=nic both started at about / the same time? Not counting Prism and Play-Doh.      --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:56:11 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>4 Subject: Re: HP World: Why Alpha's Omega Makes Sense- Message-ID: <87n0f1ovmc.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ( jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net> writes:  < > Not sure what you mean by "dismiss", but there are just noD > server-class systems vendors - today - that I know of making plansD > for this chip.  That may just be an initial problem, and Intel may. > lose in the end, we'll have to wait and see.   So how do you rate Cray?     --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:47:24 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> ; Subject: Re: Migrate obsolete VAX/VMS SW to OpenVMS Itanium % Message-ID: <3F23130B.96D794@fsi.net>    John Santos wrote: > / > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, David J. Dachtera wrote:  >  > > "Stanley F. Quayle" wrote: > > > 6 > > > On 25 Jul 2003 at 9:56, David J. Dachtera wrote:O > > > > See my response to Didier. Getting that last 5% on board will be key to % > > > > regrowing the OpenVMS market.  > > > > M > > > > Kind of like putting out 95% of a fire. The remaining 5% can rekindle 8 > > > > and once again you have a roaring conflagration. > > > ? > > > I don't think it's "key" -- we need to be developing more I > > > applications.  Take that 5% and DOUBLE IT -- it only becomes 10% of  > > > the market.  > > H > > BUT - take that same 5% and raise it to the second power, it becomes# > > 25%, the third power: 125%, ...  > E > Bad math.  5% raised to the second power is .25%, raised to the 3rd  > power is .0125%.  G Try again, using integers instead of fractions. Then you getthe correct  results.  * > I think the whole fire analogy is bogus.  G As I said, put tinder and kindling on top of glowing embers and what do  you get?  E > Some people are perfectly happy on their VAXes (or PDP-11's or ...)   F ...and some (most?) have little or no choice, which is why they remainH on VAX at V5.5-2 or earlier, or PDP or Prime or Nixdorf or DG Nova or DG Eclipse or ...  = > They work, they don't have sources or development staffs or A > (non-defunct) vendors.  These people are never going to migrate A > and wouldn't even if there were brand-new 500 VUP MicroVAX-XVII $ > systems for sale in every CompUSA.  F Then again, they might - business as a whole does not stagnate the way short-sighted businesses do.  ? > I don't know if this is 5% or 1%, but HP will never get these = > people onto Itanium and there is no reason for them to try.   + Obviously, there is some disagreement here.   A > The market to double is the 95% who are interested in upgrading / > their systems.  Double that and you get 190%.   A ...and therein lies the rub: once the 95% are once again "fat and H happy", where is their motivation to purchase more VMS? The app.'s stillG hasn't changed, acquired new features or greater functionality, it just   now runs on the latest platform.  H If the 5% felt less abandoned or left behind, might that become a sourceG for new VMS business? Will they be likely to "spread the news", good or D bad? (Remember: Bad news spreads farther, faster and wider than good news ever will.)   > > ( > > Rather like nuclear fission, get it? > > B > > > In reference to your example, fighting the last 5% of a fire > > K > > ...unless you're trying to keep warm. Put tinder and kindling on top of + > > still-glowing embers, and what happens?   2 Please read the following again, VERY CAREFULLY!!!  L > > THAT's the analogy I was going for: taking the barely still-alive (i.e.,( > > VMS) and making it vital once again.   Got it now?    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:28:36 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>; Subject: Re: Migrate obsolete VAX/VMS SW to OpenVMS Itanium ) Message-ID: <3F231CA9.7C48E234@istop.com>    "David J. Dachtera" wrote:C > ...and therein lies the rub: once the 95% are once again "fat and 9 > happy", where is their motivation to purchase more VMS?    It is worse than that.  K The real problem is when 100% of customers decide that all new applications K will be on another platform.  Digital/Compaq/HP don't know about this since M they still see contracts renewed. And they still see "some" upgrades when the J remaining VMS applications need to handle higher volumes, or when customerS consolidate their former network of many VMS boxes into a small number of machines.     M The beauty of Windows is that being able to reliably run only one application F at a time, manufacturers reap the benefits because they sell new boxesA whenever a customer needs to add a new application and that makes K manufacturers look better on paper because their wintel-centric business is + measured in number of wintel units shipped.    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:12:08 -0500 (CDT)  From: sms@antinode.org; Subject: Re: Migrate obsolete VAX/VMS SW to OpenVMS Itanium ) Message-ID: <03072622120868@antinode.org>   1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>   J > > > BUT - take that same 5% and raise it to the second power, it becomes% > > > 25%, the third power: 125%, ...  > > G > > Bad math.  5% raised to the second power is .25%, raised to the 3rd  > > power is .0125%. > I > Try again, using integers instead of fractions. Then you getthe correct 
 > results.  F    It must be difficult for anyone so stupid and/or ignorant of simpleD arithmetic to cope in the field of computers.  5% = 5/100.  Per centC _means_ per centum, that is, divided by 100.  5% _is_ a fraction (a 0 proper fraction, less than one), not an integer.  ;    It ill behooves one to be so adamant when he's so wrong.   B    Please pardon this Popeye moment.  I tried, I _really_ tried toF ignore the original blunder, and I succeeded, but the "correction" was just too much for me.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode,org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:17:46 -0500 ( From: Rich Jordan <duodec@speakeasy.net>: Subject: Re: OpenVMS homepage and 'sales.liveperson.net' ?2 Message-ID: <cKycnaOakZnFkL6iXTWc-g@speakeasy.net>   Bob Koehler wrote:b > In article <3F217041.FF309EF4@ost.cdrh.fda.gov>, Jonathan Boswell <jsb@ost.cdrh.fda.gov> writes: >  > Q >>Resurrect the Digital Electronic Store and make it easy to buy.  Gratuitous use Q >>of javascript is IMHO not the way to make it easy for anybody to buy anything.  M >>Other vendors have lost a lot of business from me over the years because of  >>this.  >>; >>And while you're at it, bring back the DECdirect catalog!  >  > . >    Gee, a SOC would be nice early next year. >    SOC _AND_ pricelists.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:08:18 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>+ Subject: Re: Packed decimal arithmetic in C ) Message-ID: <3F22D195.32D39DAF@istop.com>    Paul Sture wrote: H > Why are Norway and Denmark  only given to 3 significant figures, where > the rest are 5 or 6?  K Is it possible that those two countries don't have a free floating currency K and that their currency excange rates are set by government, in which case, " they would have fewer decimals.  ?   ------------------------------   Date: 27 Jul 03 05:11:11 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) + Subject: RE: Packed decimal arithmetic in C ) Message-ID: <l4LardtLDbG2@elias.decus.ch>   _ In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEGHHKAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: 4 > Does this expose a triangular trade opportunity:-) > F > I would be currious to know as well.  My guess is that they suppress
 > printing > non-significant '0's   That occurred to me too. >  > A > Maybe it is time to haul this horse off to the rendering plant?  > J I think you are right. Let's kill it / ignore it for at least the weekend.   ------------------------------   Date: 27 Jul 03 05:30:22 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) + Subject: Re: Packed decimal arithmetic in C ) Message-ID: <bjR2qH1EGMrg@elias.decus.ch>   V In article <3F22D195.32D39DAF@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes: > Paul Sture wrote: I >> Why are Norway and Denmark  only given to 3 significant figures, where  >> the rest are 5 or 6?  > M > Is it possible that those two countries don't have a free floating currency M > and that their currency excange rates are set by government, in which case, $ > they would have fewer decimals.  ?   Didn't think of that. I'll ask.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:38:15 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>+ Subject: Re: Packed decimal arithmetic in C ) Message-ID: <3F23571C.E0A8C860@istop.com>   C SANTA CLARA, Calif., July 23, 2003 -- Intel Corporation announced a E breakthrough in computing with the introduction of compressed decimal L arithmetic on its Itanium II architecture. Older technologies such as packedL decimal used by competitors have been unable to cope with the need to handle$ ever increasing values by busineses.   H Working with Microsoft Corporation, Intel developped an industry leadingG compression algorithm that has been implemented as a pipeline operation M between registers and the arithmetic unit. Previous technologies required the K entire number to fit insude the arithmetic unit during processing. But this M revolutionaly technology allows bits to flow through the arithmetic unit in a L continuous fashion, allowing the computation of nearly infinite numbers. AndM because the results are dynamically recompressed prior to reaching the 64 bit M registers, this new technology was easy to implement without major changes to  the architecture.   M The compressed decimal technology will work best with very large numbers made I up of mostly zeros but will still provide significant improvements to the J processing of random numbers, such as those used by corporate accountants.  F Intel is also working on a different compression algorithm it hopes toN implement in its next generation Itanium III chips which will offer compressedL floating point operations. This new lossy compression algorithm will provideE increased throughput  compared to compressed decimal operations while X providing the floating point accuracy customers have come to expect from Intel products.    H Intel, the world's largest chip maker, is also a leading manufacturer ofN computer, networking and communications products. Additional information about. Intel is available at www.intel.com/pressroom.  I  Intel is a trademark or registered trademark of Intel Corporation or its 6 subsidiaries in the United States and other countries.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jul 2003 17:21:23 -0700, From: mcbill20@hotmail.com (Bill McLaughlin)8 Subject: Re: Problem sending SMTP mail:  SMTP_NOSUCHUSER= Message-ID: <e9cbc4f2.0307261621.73b688e4@posting.google.com>   [ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message news:<3F2234EC.7FEE91A5@istop.com>...  > Bill McLaughlin wrote:E > > I have a DSL connection with a domain name and static IP and NAT. : > > Everything else seems to work-- telnet, DNS, FTP, etc. > > 9 > > As soon as I send the mail, I get the following back:  > > + > > ---- Transcript of session follows ----  > > E > > 553  %TCPIP-E-SMTP_NOSUCHUSER, no such user, MCBILL20@HOTMAIL.COM  >  > & > DEFINE/SYSTEM TCPIP$SMTP_LOG_LEVEL 2" > DEFINE/SYSTEM TCPIP$SMTP_NOSEY 1' > DEFINE/SYSTEM TCPIP$SMTP_SYMB_TRACE 1  >  > Then, TCPIP> STOP MAIL > 	 TCPIP> START MAIL  > N > Then you send your message. In the TCPIP$SMTP_COMMON: directory, look at theP > log file and you will sed the actual dialogue between your machine and that of- > hotmail and may see a more obvious problem.  > K > When using NAT etc, one often has problems with domain names. If your VMS P > machines thinks of itself as "pastry.chocolate.com", but beyond the router andL > onto the internet, reverse translation of your internet IP address revealsP > that you are  customer76382.yourisp.com, some mailers may balk at your message > and think it is spam.   B Thanks. That helped a lot. I think that may be it. My ISP just gotC bought by another company a few days ago and they are having a hard E time transitioning all the accounts. It looks like they didn't get my  domain name switched over yet.   Bill   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Jul 2003 19:15:13 GMT/ From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net>  Subject: Re: Sun and SCO* Message-ID: <bfuk01$b8l$1@news1.radix.net>  # Eric Bruno <eric@ebruno.org> wrote:   K > Due to neglect Sun is way behind in drivers for current hardware for x86.  > Access to ; > SCO's source base provides access to current x86 drivers.   = "SCO"'s source base for drivers is apparently also lacking...  (ymmv)   --  = Thomas E. Dickey <dickey@radix.net> <dickey@herndon4.his.com>  http://dickey.his.com  ftp://dickey.his.com   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.411 ************************