1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 28 Jun 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 354       Contents: Re: Bind Re: Bind' Re: Ethernet card for alphaserver 1000a ' Re: Ethernet card for alphaserver 1000a  Re: HP to drop hpux?" Re: lib$spawn and persona services: Re: New Business View Magazine for HP Enterprise Customers! Re: Non-Chinese computer hardware # Re: PuTTY and SSH2 on OpenVMS - Not   TCPIP services IMAP crash on VAX Re: X11 proxy on VMS ? Re: X11 proxy on VMS ? Re: X11 proxy on VMS ?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:16:51 +0000 (UTC) . From: "Insomnee" <robert.heyes@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Bind 2 Message-ID: <bdkf1j$d5b$1@hercules.btinternet.com>  7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:3EFCDBAA.83ED65A8@istop.com...  > Insomnee wrote: H > > We found that in the startup.log the bind resolver part of the tcpip startup  > > procedure bombs out with- > > %TCPIP-I-STARTNAME, starting name service ? > > %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual  > L > Not sure if this was mentioned before or not. Did you use @TCPIP$CONFIG to goK > through your configuration and all services to ensure your database is in 	 > order ?  > D > After upgrading, you should do that. As I recall, the TCPIP$CONFIG	 procedure ? > has conde in there to check and then convert if necessary old  configurations.     H We havent upgraded or anything, its been the same shared system disk forC about 2 years. Everything would have been configured initially with 2 tcpip$config. Its just started happening recently.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 13:06:13 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: Bind ) Message-ID: <3EFDCB01.45D68C10@istop.com>    Insomnee wrote: N > We found that in the startup.log the bind resolver part of the tcpip startup > procedure bombs out with+ > %TCPIP-I-STARTNAME, starting name service = > %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual  > address=00000000002B  K Just checked my log on my TCPIP 5.0a node which doesn't have a bind server.   / The "%TCPIP-I-STARTNAME, starting name service" U is issued by the TCPIP utility, while processing the START COMMUNICATIONS /INITIALISE   L This is where, with 5.3, it crashed my system consistently, and it took me aL while to figure out that it crashed when trying to enable the SLIP interfaceT (which is why I had to revert that node to 5.0 where SLIP doesn't crash the system).  G On my system, after the "starting name service", it issues the message: N "loading TCPIP server PROXY information". (which is followed by other messages detailing that operation).  # Perhaps TCPIP bombs at that stage ?   J If you could find out where the TCPIP START COMMUNICATIONS /INITIALIZE is N hidden, I would edit that file, and put a "EXIT" statement just before. Run itA interactively, and once you get back to the $ sig, do a SET WATCH M FILE/CLASS=DIR  (or ALL) and then do the TCPIP START COMM /INIT interactively E and try to see what files it lasts tries to access prior to crashing.   / That may be a good indication of where to look.    ------------------------------   Date: 28 Jun 2003 07:10:58 GMT+ From: Mike Zanker <not-for-mail@zanker.org> 0 Subject: Re: Ethernet card for alphaserver 1000a7 Message-ID: <Xns93A8533DD3D75mikezankerorg@130.133.1.4>   - Alan Frisbie <Abuse@Flying-Disk.com> wrote in ' news:3EFC83D1.1090609@Flying-Disk.com:    C > Get a DE500.   It's compatible.   It rocks.   The price is right. @ > I went to a presentation on cluster interconnects.   The DE500B > did *very* *well* for all but gigantic transfers.   I don't have8 > the slides handy, but I'm sure that someone here does.  * Thanks everyone - I've got myself a DE500.   Mike.    ------------------------------   Date: 28 Jun 2003 07:13:33 GMT+ From: Mike Zanker <not-for-mail@zanker.org> 0 Subject: Re: Ethernet card for alphaserver 1000a7 Message-ID: <Xns93A853AD9CFE6mikezankerorg@130.133.1.4>   4 keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) wrote in6 news:cf15391e.0306270942.200e811b@posting.google.com:   : > The Alphaserver 1000A 5/300 Supported Options List is atE > http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/options/as1000aev5/as1000aev5  > _options.html   E Thanks for that. Looking at memory options it seems that some of the  C kits have 4 modules and some 5. I guess the extra one is for error  C checking and goes in one of the slightly offset slots on the board.   E At the moment I don't have anything in those slots, i.e. I only have  D multiples of 4. Am I likely to run into any problems with this - it  works fine with NetBSD?    Thanks,    Mike.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 01:30:46 -0400 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> Subject: Re: HP to drop hpux? 2 Message-ID: <1IycnTsWVbuRtWCjXTWJhw@metrocast.net>  4 "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote in message3 news:Vs5La.7393$OE2.910281@news20.bellglobal.com... 7 > "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message 9 > news:d7791aa1.0306191512.61365658@posting.google.com... A > > it says here that its a rumor ... maybe Carly is smarter than  > > we think! :) > > A > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/06/18/HNsapfiorina_1.html  > J > At the OpenVMS technical seminar in Ottawa (2003-06-25 + 26), the HP s/w' > engineers stated the following facts:  > ! > 26% of all UNIX sites run HP-UX   G And an even larger percentage of Windows sites run Win9x.  But it's not # exactly a growth platform any more.   ! >  6% of all UNIX sites run Tru64   K The fastest-growing of the major Unixes, until the Alphacide.  And arguably  the most modern.   > J > So by moving Tru64 features like AdvFs and Clustering (to name only two)  I Are there more?  Even if not, is there a firm schedule for when the above K two will have been fully ported, or is the promise of such a port more of a E palliative for those Tru64 customers who *might* be amenable to being   cajoled into sticking around HP?    into I > HP-UX, HP expected to save 2-3 Billion dollars by dropping Tru64. (this F > savings was not explained and the numbers were not broken out but it	 seemed to  > be a one-time savings)  G Perhaps it meant the annual saving in (loss of) revenue associated with L killing Tru64 (which reportedly was bringing in $3 billion annually prior to the Alphacide).    > C > The whole point of this is that I don't think HP will kill HP-UX.   K Almost none of us thought Compaq would kill Alpha, either.  Some of us have  learned from that mistake.   - bill   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:29:42 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> + Subject: Re: lib$spawn and persona services 2 Message-ID: <bdk1nm$hb4$1@hercules.btinternet.com>   Hi,   F As an alternative, any chance of using $creprc for the sub-process and bypassing these problems?    Regards Richard Maher.  @ Forrest Cahoon <forrest.cahoon@merrillcorp.com> wrote in message7 news:8369d643.0306171355.7bb3649e@posting.google.com... C > I've been attemping to use persona services, and I'm running into A > trouble using lib$spawn while impersonating a user who has only , > the standard NETMBX and TMPMBX privileges. > 4 > I'm using Compaq C V6.5-001 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3. > B > Here's my sample code. It uses lib$spawn to run an arbitrary DCLE > command, with both SYS$INPUT and SYS$OUTPUT set to NL:. I've made a A > point to explicitly specify everything which would otherwise be F > inherited from the parent process, on the hypothesis that the parent: > process, belonging to a different user, is inaccessible. > K > /***********************************************************************/  >  > #include <stdio.h> >  > #include <descrip.h> > #include <impdef.h>  > #include <lnmdef.h>  > #include <starlet.h> > #include <lib$routines.h>  >  > main() > { F >    unsigned int persona_h, prev_persona_h, resume_persona_h, status;, >    unsigned long flags = 0, substatus = 0;A >    $DESCRIPTOR(username_dsc, "JOE6PACK"); /* a standard user */ - >    $DESCRIPTOR(cmd_dsc, "SHOW SYMBOL FOO"); # >    $DESCRIPTOR(prompt_dsc, "$ "); ! >    $DESCRIPTOR(cli_dsc, "DCL"); ) >    $DESCRIPTOR(table_dsc, "DCLTABLES"); $ >    $DESCRIPTOR(input_dsc, "_NL:");% >    $DESCRIPTOR(output_dsc, "_NL:");  > ; >    status = sys$persona_create(&persona_h, &username_dsc, 7 >                                IMP$M_ASSUME_DEFPRIV |  IMP$M_ASSUME_DEFCLASS,* >                                0, NULL);9 >    printf("persona_create status = %%X%08X\n", status);  > , >    status = sys$persona_assume(&persona_h,8 >                                IMP$M_ASSUME_SECURITY | IMP$M_ASSUME_ACCOUNT, 2 >                                &prev_persona_h); > 9 >    printf("persona_assume status = %%X%08X\n", status);  > F >    /***************************************************************/F >    /* I am now JOE6PACK with the amazing power of BEING ORDINARY! */ > H >    status = lib$spawn(&cmd_dsc, &input_dsc, &output_dsc, &flags, 0, 0,) >                       &substatus, 0, 0, > >                       0, &prompt_dsc, &cli_dsc, &table_dsc); > @ >    printf("lib$spawn status = %%X%08X, substatus = %%X%08X\n", >           status, substatus);  > G >    /****************************************************************/  >  >    resume_persona_h = 1;3 >    status = sys$persona_assume(&resume_persona_h, 8 >                                IMP$M_ASSUME_SECURITY | IMP$M_ASSUME_ACCOUNT, - >                                &persona_h);  > @ >    printf("return persona_assume status = %%X%08X\n", status); > - >    status = sys$persona_delete(&persona_h); 9 >    printf("persona_delete status = %%X%08X\n", status);  > }  > K > /***********************************************************************/  > " > The results of this program are: >  > $ run impersonate_test$ > persona_create status = %X00000001$ > persona_assume status = %X000000017 > lib$spawn status = %X00000024, substatus = %X00000000 + > return persona_assume status = %X00000001 $ > persona_delete status = %X00000001 > 2 > The %X00000024 status returned from lib$spawn isI > %SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection violation  > @ > When I change "JOE6PACK" to my own account, which has a lot ofG > authorized privileges (including IMPERSONATE and SYSPRV needed to run G > this program) but with my default privs pared down to just NETMBX and % > TMPMBX, this is what I get instead:  >  > $ run impersonate_test$ > persona_create status = %X00000001$ > persona_assume status = %X000000017 > lib$spawn status = %X00000001, substatus = %X00038140 + > return persona_assume status = %X00000001 $ > persona_delete status = %X00000001 > % > The subprocess status %X00038140 is ? > %CLI-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling F > which shows that the call worked correctly because I haven't set the > symbol "FOO".  > 7 > What's going on here?  Is there any way I can fix it?  >  > Forrest Cahoon& > not speaking for merrill corporation   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jun 2003 14:33:24 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>C Subject: Re: New Business View Magazine for HP Enterprise Customers 6 Message-ID: <20030628143324.17372.qmail@nym.alias.net>  @ On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote: >"Doc.Cypher" wrote:O >> Newsgroups are a good barometer for the opinion of those "at the sharp end",  > K >I had the same treatment in the PSION newsgroups as I am getting here.  My O >"nemesis" on the PSION newsgroups, I later found out, was the chief evangelist J >for the new PSION EPOC-32 OS which was spun off to a consortium of mobileL >phone companies (now known as Symbian-OS). I saw plenty of signs that PSIONH >was not going to continue with the PDA market. (lack of marketing, muchK >delayed product upgrades etc). Of course, I was blasted left and right for  >being the "naysayer".  J Perhaps it is not the message, but the way it's put.  You can say the sameM thing without being so confrontational about it - inject a little humour too. @ I'm sure my new sig raised a few smiles when I started using it.     Doc. --  K OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:59:02 +0200 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> * Subject: Re: Non-Chinese computer hardware5 Message-ID: <bdjlcq$u0q4g$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>   9 "Island" <dbturner@nospamislandco.com> schreef in bericht ) news:vfoaivc65pvr58@news.supernews.com... 2 > Walmart, Compaq,HP IBM, Sun the list is endless. > L > Anyhow, the reason for my post is the question:  What Computer hardware is > NOT made in China ? L > I guess even Intel is guilty of export of technology production, maybe not% > in mainland China but close enough.  >  > Comments ? >  > --   > David B Turner! > Island Computers US Corporation  > 2700 Gregory St., Suite 180  > Savannah GA 31404  > Tel: 912 447 6622  > Fax: 912 201 0402  > Email: dbturner@hpaq.net > http://www.hpaq.net  >  >  David,  F what kind of comment do you expect? 20 years ago Japan was a low-wagesI country and that role is now taken by China. Wait another decade and mass @ market manufacturing ends up in Cuba, Nigeria. The complexity ofI manufacturing computer equipment is similar to manufacturing Barbie dolls 7 and McDonalds toys. May be done anywhere on the planet.    Hans   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jun 2003 14:44:15 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>, Subject: Re: PuTTY and SSH2 on OpenVMS - Not6 Message-ID: <20030628144415.11221.qmail@nym.alias.net>  A On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, "Irving F. Snurd" <dacadc0@lycos.com> wrote:   C >We've had trouble editing with putty.  Without tinkering atall it  I >supports keypad editing, for those of us with EDT fingers, and that was  ; >nice.  I can log into VMS from a PC and edit with EDT just I >like a DECTERM window.  However, whenever I paste into puttty, from one  H >putty screen to another, I get just enough errors to drive me crazy. A . >semicolon will be missing, or part of a word.E >So if I paste a 30-line function, when I compile I'll get about ten  % >compilation errors.  That's not true L >with TeraTerm, which seems to work just fine.  If it only supported SSH2...  = Set up a tunnel in PuTTY to the telnet port on the server. :)   ? Then you can use any telnet-capable terminal emulator securely.   G Some work setting up the machine/firewall to block other inbound telnet  connections will be required.      Doc. --  K OpenVMS.         Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 03:12:43 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>) Subject: TCPIP services IMAP crash on VAX ) Message-ID: <3EFD3FB7.AF06A791@istop.com>   F I know that IMAP is not supported on VAX. However, if any of the TCPIP developpers read this....   O With TCPIP services 5.3,  TCPIP$IMAP worked fine (albeit slowly) on VAX-VMS 7.2 F With TCPIP services 5.3-2 (ECO 182 if I recall correctly), it crashes.  K I added a SET WATCH FILE statement, and here is where it crashes (seamingly K during image activation, well before it reads its configuration file or any J other file.). I tried various variations with the threadcp command, but no difference.   O %XQP, Thread #0, File protection (249,1,0): Access requested: 00000005, Status:  00000001, PrvUsd: 00000000D %XQP, Thread #0, Read attributes: Access mode SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1,0)D %XQP, Thread #0, Read attributes: Access mode SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1,0)F %XQP, Thread #0, Read attributes: Journal flags SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1,0)B %XQP, Thread #0, Read attributes: RU active SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1,0)I %XQP, Thread #0, Read attributes: Statistics block SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1,0) I %XQP, Thread #0, Read attributes: Find ACE by type SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1,0) J %XQP, Thread #0, Read attributes: Record attributes SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1,0)P %XQP, Thread #0, Read attributes: User file characteristics SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1, 0)? %XQP, Thread #0, Access SCNMSG.EXE;1 (249,1,0) Status: 00000001 P %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=00000000, PC =00077D2F, PSL=03C00000   2   Improperly handled condition, image exit forced.  4         Signal arguments              Stack contents  1         Number = 00000005                00000080 1         Name   = 0000000C                00000000 1                  00000000                00000000 1                  00000000                7FEBF9F8 1                  00077D2F                7FEBFA24 1                  03C00000                00000000 1                                          00000000 1                                          20202020 1                                          20202020 1                                          20202020            Register dump   B         R0 = 00000001  R1 = 00150D54  R2 = 001BCBD8  R3 = 001BCBD8B         R4 = 00001600  R5 = 00000001  R6 = 00016170  R7 = 001BB2A8B         R8 = 7FEC0770  R9 = 001BCBD8  R10= 001BC2E0  R11= 7FFE2BDCB         AP = 7FEBF978  FP = 7FEBF938  SP = 7FEBF9B4  PC = 00077D2F         PSL= 03C00000    %XQP, Thread #0, FIB contents:L      00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000L      00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000L      00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 %XQP, Thread #0, FIB contents:L      00000000 000100F9 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000L      00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000000L      00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000I %XQP, Thread #0, Deaccess (249,1,0) Reads: 2, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:35:40 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: X11 proxy on VMS ? 3 Message-ID: <gzbLa.38752$kC4.615959@news.chello.at>   V In article <3EFCD380.6CE838F1@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes: >Bob Koehler wrote: E >>    I'm using one right now.  The entire DEC VXT line supports LAT, C >>    DECnet, and TCP/IP.  X11 is going over LAT, not just DECterm.  > I >I stand corrected. Dir SYS$LIBRARY:DECW*trans*.exe reveals support for :  >  >ADSP  >LAT >DECNET  >TCPIP >LOCAL >COMMON  >  >(what is ADSP ?)   E Or in other words, what software do JF have installed what all others 4 don't like, don't have installed or never heard of ?> I never heard of ADSP so far but it is surely related to a Mac, (AppleTalk Data Stream Protocol or similar).   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:12:37 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> Subject: Re: X11 proxy on VMS ? ' Message-ID: <3EFD7825.4000002@spam.com>     Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: (what is ADSP ?) >=20 >=20G > Or in other words, what software do JF have installed what all others 6 > don't like, don't have installed or never heard of ?@ > I never heard of ADSP so far but it is surely related to a Mac. > (AppleTalk Data Stream Protocol or similar).   Right. AppleTalk Data Stream Protocol? developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/ Networking/Networking-98.html    D. --=20 - Didier Morandi sarl au capital de 8 000 euros &            Tout VMS (et un peu de Mac)-   19 chemin de la Butte 31400 Toulouse France /   T=E9l: 33(0)5 6120 1964 Fax: 33(0)5 6154 1928 &           http://www.didiermorandi.com$             RCS Toulouse 448 694 851   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:56:36 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: X11 proxy on VMS ? ) Message-ID: <3EFDBAB4.91DE7C35@istop.com>     Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: > >ADSP  > >LAT	 > >DECNET  > >TCPIP > >LOCAL	 > >COMMON   G > Or in other words, what software do JF have installed what all others 6 > don't like, don't have installed or never heard of ?  N Well, I never really considered that I added stuff to decwindows. I guess thatI when I tried the pathworks MAC sofware, it must have added the decwidnows K support for appletalk.  But the others should be pretty standard, shouldn't  they ?   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.354 ************************