1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 22 Mar 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 160       Contents:( Re: Apache scripting and <FORM> question( Re: Apache scripting and <FORM> questionP Re: BASEstar (was: Re: OpenVMS at CeBIT 2003 - more  info on hp OpenVMS Industry- Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you????? - Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you????? - Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you????? - Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you????? - Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you????? * Re: Cluster, half in the DMZ, half outside* Re: Cluster, half in the DMZ, half outside= Re: EFI Specifications (was: I Have Seen The IA64 Future !!!) * Re: Error messages with MESSAGE/sys$putmsg> Re: file locked against LOGINOUT (was: LOGINOUT.EXE locked...) Re: FTP Question@ Re: How to search for last login, but not on disusered accounts.# Re: I Have Seen The IA64 Future !!! # Re: I Have Seen The IA64 Future !!! - Re: LOGINOUT.EXE locked by other user problem - Re: LOGINOUT.EXE locked by other user problem $ Re: new releases of MySQL and Python$ Re: new releases of MySQL and Python: Re: OpenVMS as a growth platform; and low-cost development: Re: OpenVMS as a growth platform; and low-cost development: Re: OpenVMS as a growth platform; and low-cost development: Re: OpenVMS as a growth platform; and low-cost development/ Re: Remotely opening a window on my workstation  Re: Rich Marcello L Sliightly OT: OSS$_WLOCK (was Re: LOGINOUT.EXE locked by other user problem) Re: Some Windows ammunition  Re: Some Windows ammunition & Re: Sun unix/linux new nasty bug cert!H Re: [Q] Files not found during image backup, w/ and w/o directory-specs.H Re: [Q] Files not found during image backup, w/ and w/o directory-specs.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:32:11 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> 1 Subject: Re: Apache scripting and <FORM> question 2 Message-ID: <3E7C8DE1.19470004@firstdbasource.com>  
 VAXVMS wrote:  > + > Hobbyist Alpha Personal Workstation 433au = > 1GB memory, VMS 7.3, well-patched; diskspace not a problem.  > ) > running Latest CSWS, Netscape Gold 3.03  > 1 > I'd run Mozilla but I've only got 1GB of memory  > :^)  > < > Both of these (CSWS and Netscape) are on the same PW433.../ > not net-connected so security isn't an issue.  > C > I've written some DCL that reads a series of text files which are A > a list of graphics files (Photos from my recent Hong Kong trip) A > and descriptions and creates a directory for each text file and < > child pages for each of the items listed in the text file. > ; > It works fine, but *now* I've got to make it possible for 5 > my wife to go through them and enter comments where  > she wants to...  > 4 > In short, I need to use some sort of simple script; > that will take text input from a <FORM> in a web page and   > save it as a file with name of > H > <webpage from which the input is submitted> minus ".html" plus ".txt". > 6 > using a POST with email would be another option, but: > (whines) then I'd have to extract each one and cut, etc. > (what a pain). > = > If I had separate .txt files then I could read each one and ? > parse it accordingly into the proper place in the proper file * > that is used for building the web pages. > 8 > I've ordered Alan's book but it hasn't arrive yet :^). > G > Has anyone got anything pre-rolled that they'd be willing to pass on?  >  > thanks in advance- > ========================" > William W. Webb - EMS Operations+ > OpenVMS Systems Support - USPS DSSC Annex , > 4730 Hargrove Road, Raleigh, NC 27616-2874@ > 919.325.7500 x4186  <FirstInitialLastNameAtEmailDotUSPSDotGov>  ) nothing pre-rolled, but should be easy... E basically - you can add all of the angle-brackets to the pseudo-code:    begin page with picture    [image]    FORM@ text box input (no cr/lf) [some string to be displayed with this picture] [submit]G end page with picture -- sending picture filename with text description  of filename    \   \  E   \___>>>> to CGI  -- in this instance, PERL will do an easier job of C parsing the data, but dcl is better at creating the extra files....            parse filename         parse text string                    open/write filename.html;                 html body table tr td image=filname /td /tr F                                 tr td text string /td /tr /table /body /html          close file"         open/write file_index.html?          write file " tr td href=filename.html ''text' /td /tr"           close file           end cgi     in my-picts.html  C build the html file dyanmically using SHTML  (server side includes)  header.html    file_index.html 	 tail.html   G then to view simply click on the link to view the new picture page with F description.... and you may want to break it up into multiple pages...H obviously a lot more work.   I may try to cobble something together over8 the weekend if I don't have too many other things to do.   --   Regards,  6 Michael Austin            OpenVMS User since June 19847 First DBA Source, Inc.    Registered Linux User #261163    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:33:03 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> 1 Subject: Re: Apache scripting and <FORM> question 2 Message-ID: <3E7C8E15.D2D67694@firstdbasource.com>  
 VAXVMS wrote:  > + > Hobbyist Alpha Personal Workstation 433au = > 1GB memory, VMS 7.3, well-patched; diskspace not a problem.  > ) > running Latest CSWS, Netscape Gold 3.03  > 1 > I'd run Mozilla but I've only got 1GB of memory  > :^)  > < > Both of these (CSWS and Netscape) are on the same PW433.../ > not net-connected so security isn't an issue.  > C > I've written some DCL that reads a series of text files which are A > a list of graphics files (Photos from my recent Hong Kong trip) A > and descriptions and creates a directory for each text file and < > child pages for each of the items listed in the text file. > ; > It works fine, but *now* I've got to make it possible for 5 > my wife to go through them and enter comments where  > she wants to...  > 4 > In short, I need to use some sort of simple script; > that will take text input from a <FORM> in a web page and   > save it as a file with name of > H > <webpage from which the input is submitted> minus ".html" plus ".txt". > 6 > using a POST with email would be another option, but: > (whines) then I'd have to extract each one and cut, etc. > (what a pain). > = > If I had separate .txt files then I could read each one and ? > parse it accordingly into the proper place in the proper file * > that is used for building the web pages. > 8 > I've ordered Alan's book but it hasn't arrive yet :^). > G > Has anyone got anything pre-rolled that they'd be willing to pass on?  >  > thanks in advance- > ========================" > William W. Webb - EMS Operations+ > OpenVMS Systems Support - USPS DSSC Annex , > 4730 Hargrove Road, Raleigh, NC 27616-2874@ > 919.325.7500 x4186  <FirstInitialLastNameAtEmailDotUSPSDotGov>  ) nothing pre-rolled, but should be easy... E basically - you can add all of the angle-brackets to the pseudo-code:    begin page with picture    [image]    FORM@ text box input (no cr/lf) [some string to be displayed with this picture] [submit]G end page with picture -- sending picture filename with text description  of filename    \   \  E   \___>>>> to CGI  -- in this instance, PERL will do an easier job of C parsing the data, but dcl is better at creating the extra files....            parse filename         parse text string                    open/write filename.html;                 html body table tr td image=filname /td /tr F                                 tr td text string /td /tr /table /body /html          close file"         open/write file_index.html?          write file " tr td href=filename.html ''text' /td /tr"           close file           end cgi     in my-picts.html  C build the html file dyanmically using SHTML  (server side includes)  header.html    file_index.html 	 tail.html   G then to view simply click on the link to view the new picture page with F description.... and you may want to break it up into multiple pages...H obviously a lot more work.   I may try to cobble something together over8 the weekend if I don't have too many other things to do.   --   Regards,  6 Michael Austin            OpenVMS User since June 19847 First DBA Source, Inc.    Registered Linux User #261163    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2003 23:40:57 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>Y Subject: Re: BASEstar (was: Re: OpenVMS at CeBIT 2003 - more  info on hp OpenVMS Industry - Message-ID: <8765qciv7a.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   % hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:   ? >   And given the business cycle of many of these manufacturing F >   customers, you can find some interesting mixes of the very old andD >   the very new at these sites -- once the factory is (re)built andE >   the controllers and the lines are installed, the computer systems A >   and the PLCs tend to run with minimal changes for many years.   D Like a leading edge cluster, and a PDP-8I with a DF32 or RF08. Can't remember which one...    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:35:25 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG6 Subject: Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you?????0 Message-ID: <00A1D3D6.73D5854E@SendSpamHere.ORG>  g In article <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-XglQSqfPRvso@localhost>, "Dave Weatherall" <djweath@attglobal.net> writes:  {...snip...}E >Sounds like you had an enjoyable time. Experience shows that the UK  G >baggage X-Ray machines _don't_ ruin film. I hope your experience backs G >that up. Strangely enough, it was near Salisbury/Stonehenge that I was % >working. Had it been a week later...   G We spent an evening this trip in Salisbury (Clovelly Hotel about 100 yd  walk from the rail station).  E I left the camera bag with all of the camera lenses on the train from F Salisbury to Bath Spa.  Fortunately it was turned in at Bristol TempleE Meade and we were able to reclaim in.  Wonderful and honest people in E the UK.  Here in the states I can't change jobs without a federal law G suit or back out of my own driveway without losing my driver's license. D Were it not for the cost of living there, I'd move there in a flash. --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------   Date: 22 Mar 03 15:04:09 +0100) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 6 Subject: Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you?????) Message-ID: <Tc7OCxCO7BaP@elias.decus.ch>   U In article <00A1D3D6.73D5854E@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: i > In article <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-XglQSqfPRvso@localhost>, "Dave Weatherall" <djweath@attglobal.net> writes:  > {...snip...}F >>Sounds like you had an enjoyable time. Experience shows that the UK H >>baggage X-Ray machines _don't_ ruin film. I hope your experience backsH >>that up. Strangely enough, it was near Salisbury/Stonehenge that I was& >>working. Had it been a week later... >   E I've had good experiences putting film through UK X-Ray machines too.   I > We spent an evening this trip in Salisbury (Clovelly Hotel about 100 yd  > walk from the rail station). > G > I left the camera bag with all of the camera lenses on the train from H > Salisbury to Bath Spa.  Fortunately it was turned in at Bristol TempleG > Meade and we were able to reclaim in.  Wonderful and honest people in G > the UK.  Here in the states I can't change jobs without a federal law I > suit or back out of my own driveway without losing my driver's license. F > Were it not for the cost of living there, I'd move there in a flash.  8 Nice story. It's a bit different in large cities though.   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:41:53 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG6 Subject: Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you?????0 Message-ID: <00A1D3DF.BB4A8CCA@SendSpamHere.ORG>  U In article <Tc7OCxCO7BaP@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes: V >In article <00A1D3D6.73D5854E@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:j >> In article <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-XglQSqfPRvso@localhost>, "Dave Weatherall" <djweath@attglobal.net> writes: >> {...snip...} G >>>Sounds like you had an enjoyable time. Experience shows that the UK  I >>>baggage X-Ray machines _don't_ ruin film. I hope your experience backs I >>>that up. Strangely enough, it was near Salisbury/Stonehenge that I was ' >>>working. Had it been a week later...  >>   > F >I've had good experiences putting film through UK X-Ray machines too. > J >> We spent an evening this trip in Salisbury (Clovelly Hotel about 100 yd >> walk from the rail station).  >>  H >> I left the camera bag with all of the camera lenses on the train fromI >> Salisbury to Bath Spa.  Fortunately it was turned in at Bristol Temple H >> Meade and we were able to reclaim in.  Wonderful and honest people inH >> the UK.  Here in the states I can't change jobs without a federal lawJ >> suit or back out of my own driveway without losing my driver's license.G >> Were it not for the cost of living there, I'd move there in a flash.  > 9 >Nice story. It's a bit different in large cities though.   H In the states or in the UK?  I have had nothing but positive experiencesG in London.  Wish I could state the same of Philadelphia and, moreso, of  NYC.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------   Date: 22 Mar 03 16:15:07 +0100) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 6 Subject: Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you?????) Message-ID: <YlEXNQjVfAeh@elias.decus.ch>   U In article <00A1D3DF.BB4A8CCA@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: W > In article <Tc7OCxCO7BaP@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes: I >>> I left the camera bag with all of the camera lenses on the train from J >>> Salisbury to Bath Spa.  Fortunately it was turned in at Bristol TempleI >>> Meade and we were able to reclaim in.  Wonderful and honest people in I >>> the UK.  Here in the states I can't change jobs without a federal law K >>> suit or back out of my own driveway without losing my driver's license. H >>> Were it not for the cost of living there, I'd move there in a flash. >>: >>Nice story. It's a bit different in large cities though. > J > In the states or in the UK?  I have had nothing but positive experiencesI > in London.  Wish I could state the same of Philadelphia and, moreso, of  > NYC. >   ? I meant the UK. It's clearly a relative thing, as you indicate.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:34:48 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> 6 Subject: Re: Brian Schenkenberger - Where are you?????0 Message-ID: <b5hvqn$165$1@sparta.btinternet.com>  K You mean they gave you back *your* stuff for free? Then it's clear you were J not travelling on South West Trains SWT. When I left my cricket bag on theL train last year I was very pleased to get it back at all and ,like you, veryD impressed with the honesty of the train cleaners. But when they saidL "That'll be 5 thanks mate" I almost came to blows! But then they pointed meK at the menu which reads roughly 1 for an umbrella, 5 for a bag, 50 for a - mobile phone and a lovely 100 for a laptop!.   L Once again, I was happy to get mys stuff back (although what anyone else wasL gonna do with my sweaty box I don't know :-) but I didn't think that salvage$ rights of the sea applied to trains.   Cheers Richard.     , <VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:00A1D3D6.73D5854E@SendSpamHere.ORG...I > In article <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-XglQSqfPRvso@localhost>, "Dave Weatherall"  <djweath@attglobal.net> writes:  > {...snip...}F > >Sounds like you had an enjoyable time. Experience shows that the UKI > >baggage X-Ray machines _don't_ ruin film. I hope your experience backs I > >that up. Strangely enough, it was near Salisbury/Stonehenge that I was ' > >working. Had it been a week later...  > I > We spent an evening this trip in Salisbury (Clovelly Hotel about 100 yd  > walk from the rail station). > G > I left the camera bag with all of the camera lenses on the train from H > Salisbury to Bath Spa.  Fortunately it was turned in at Bristol TempleG > Meade and we were able to reclaim in.  Wonderful and honest people in G > the UK.  Here in the states I can't change jobs without a federal law I > suit or back out of my own driveway without losing my driver's license. F > Were it not for the cost of living there, I'd move there in a flash. > --4 > VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001 VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > 6 >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:18:05 +0100 . From: "Gorazd Kikelj" <gorazd.kikelj@aster.si>3 Subject: Re: Cluster, half in the DMZ, half outside 1 Message-ID: <JWUea.2629$wK6.109849@news.siol.net>    Hi Jim,   6 "Jim Brankin" <jbrankin@ntlworld.com> wrote in message7 news:863f19d6.0303200410.43294e8f@posting.google.com... G > Has anyone built a cluster with some of the nodes in the DMZ and some  > outside of it? > F > The nodes in the DMZ would be web servers, obviously, and the othersG > back end database engines. All the machines would run a cluster-aware ? > database product and there would be at least one shared disk.  > F > Since the cluster interconnect would connect machines in the DMZ andF > the internal network without going through the inner firewall routerC > there would be problems convincing the security people it was OK. F > However, if you ensure that the cluster interconnect is not carryingA > IP or DECnet traffic then I do not see that there is a security 
 > problem. > E > Has anyone done this? Does anyone see problems with it? What do you  > think? >  > - Jim   # I did this for one of my customers.   E I put one of the cluster members in the DMZ and use memory channel to . communicate with other cluster members inside.  G I set interactive logins to 0 disabled all tcpip services except NTP to  synchronize time.   I All disks are shared so management goes thru SYSMAN and console terminal.   E There is no other network protocol on this system except tcpip to the L outside world and even that interface is protected by firewall (long story).  I So I see no problem using that configuration whit properly configured and G secured web server (ownership, write access controlled, maybe protected > subsystems...) and it's easy to manage and update the content.   best regards, Gorazd   --4 ----------------------------------------------------
 Gorazd Kikelj  System Engineer OpenVMS  S&T Group - Hermes Plus d.d. e-mail: gorazd.kikelj@aster.si   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:11:16 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")3 Subject: Re: Cluster, half in the DMZ, half outside 6 Message-ID: <00A1D398.66A99FCF@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  \ In article <87fzphiw8v.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> writes:, >jbrankin@ntlworld.com (Jim Brankin) writes: > C >> Has anyone built a cluster with some of the nodes in the DMZ and  >> some outside of it? > G >> The nodes in the DMZ would be web servers, obviously, and the others : >> back end database engines. All the machines would run aA >> cluster-aware database product and there would be at least one  >> shared disk.  > G >> Since the cluster interconnect would connect machines in the DMZ and G >> the internal network without going through the inner firewall router D >> there would be problems convincing the security people it was OK.G >> However, if you ensure that the cluster interconnect is not carrying B >> IP or DECnet traffic then I do not see that there is a security >> problem.  > F >> Has anyone done this? Does anyone see problems with it? What do you	 >> think?  > C >Yep, that could work very well with WASD. Put mininal outside, and C >BRIDGE in with SCS, MOP, and DECnet only. No IP trafic through the G >bridge! WASD can use DECnet to run the scripts, and they can be inside F >the firewall with the rest of the data and most of the cluster. Hell,& >it could be a diskless satelite even. >   K OSU uses DECnet to run CGIs and can certainly run them on other nodes; CSWS N has a module to run OSU scripts, and could do the same thing.  (I have no clueB about Purveyor, but perhaps Bob Ceculski will say something here.)  J FASTCGI (supported on multiple VMS webservers) can also run stuff on otherK nodes, but I think it needs TCP/IP, which rather defeats the purpose.  (You O could have other nodes that had non-routable IP addresses and were still in the L same network segment, but this puts them on the DMZ rather than the internal	 network.)    -- Alan   O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------   Date: 22 Mar 03 10:04:47 +0100) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) F Subject: Re: EFI Specifications (was: I Have Seen The IA64 Future !!!)) Message-ID: <545OafWcpHIL@elias.decus.ch>   r In article <3e7b1da0$1_2@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star-dot-zko-dot-dec-dot-com> writes: > N > There is no "boot command", think of it like a NT boot menu.  You can get toM > something (the shell) that you can boot from if you want.  The devices have 0 > the (horrible) but familiar pathname format.     OK.   C > VMS is considering providing a  VMS-friendly "boot manager" which > > will give you a command line interface that will convert the< > pathnames (for example) to VMS-friendly names like > DKA0.  C At first glance, this sounds a good approach to cater for those who @ wish to use console management products. I haven't followed thisF discussion in great detail, but the paragraph above has me asking what@ plans there are to cater for remote console management products.   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:31:35 GMT " From: Steve Young <steve@well.com>3 Subject: Re: Error messages with MESSAGE/sys$putmsg C Message-ID: <slrnb7om8b.27vv.steve@h68-144-58-171.cg.shawcable.net>   T In article <3e78a7c7.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>, Martin Vorlaender wrote:D > The magic lies in the object file created by MESSAGE. It generatesF > global named constants for all the values. These you can use in your
 > program.  E   I see, it was the globalvalue keyword that I was unaware of .. how  E does it differ from simply declaring the variable as an extern int or  what have you?  F   Also, while I have your collective ear - can someone shed some lightD on the meaning of the other two variables in that structure (count, J options)? I just got that structure from one of the files in sys$examples,I but it's not explained in the HELP page.  A reference to the appropriate  G section in the OpenVMS documentation set at openvms.compaq.com would be  much appreciated.      Thank you,   Steve.   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Mar 2003 11:55:59 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) G Subject: Re: file locked against LOGINOUT (was: LOGINOUT.EXE locked...) 3 Message-ID: <LKYaEJIhEFXF@eisner.encompasserve.org>   j In article <3e7c982a.0@cfanews.cfa.harvard.edu>, "Gareth V. Williams" <graff@cfa0.cfa.harvard.edu> writes:  K >   Thanks for those thoughts.  The first scenario isn't likely as we don't E > have any locally-written programs that open SYSUAF.DAT.  The second  > scenario is possible:  > B > $ SHOW DEVICE/FILES 'F$PARSE("SYSUAF","SYS$SYSTEM:.DAT")'/OUT=o. > $ search o. sysuaf.dat; > SSH server 335  33400226  [VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1 ; > SSH server 335  33400226  [VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1 B > $ SHOW DEVICE/FILES 'F$PARSE("SYSUAF","SYS$SYSTEM:.DAT")'/OUT=o. > $ search o. sysuaf.dat; > SSH server 335  33400226  [VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1 ; > SSH server 335  33400226  [VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1  > I >   The first SHOW DEVICE was performed while "file locked" messages were D > occurring.  The second when they weren't.  "SSH server" is the OSUF > SSH server.  Not sure why there should two be entries for SYSUAF.DAT > with the same PID.  2 There is an entry for each channel open to a file.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:15:14 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: FTP Question 5 Message-ID: <SIWea.104437$8L1.1038332@news.chello.at>   O In article <RDRea.169786$F1.6183@sccrnsc04>, "Dave" <inetnut@attbi.com> writes: L >I have a program that creates a file and sends it via FTP to a client site.K >It seems that there is delay in the DNS lookup when trying to FTP, and the M >process times out.  I have tested the FTP command from DCL, and get an error I >message the on the first try. (I don't remember the exact message at the J >moment, but it's something about not finding an entry in the database for >the remote server)  > ? >If I try it again in a few minutes, everything goes just fine.  > 7 >I am using copy/ftp/ filename"username password"::"/".  > J >Is there any setting in VMS that will increase the timeout period for the% >FTP timeout?  Any other suggestions?  > G >(I don't really want to use the IP address, in case the vendor changes J >something later on, I don't want to have to go in and change the program)  I This sounds like a slow DNS name to address conversion. And a short cache H timeout. Maybe you could PING the remote FTP system at the start of yourE job (just to give the DNS clerk more time to translate), then do your I processing and then when you really start the FTP transfer hopefully some G time ([milli]seconds) has passed and the DNS cache is already and still G filled with correct data (= IP address) and FTP does no longer timeout.   E You could also use NSLOOKUP instead of PING and play with the timeout A switch there. I don't think FTP has a adjustable timeout limit...    HIH    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:17:33 -0500 $ From: Hein <hein_cov@eps.zk.dec.com>I Subject: Re: How to search for last login, but not on disusered accounts. . Message-ID: <3E7C9AAD.D0F6671E@eps.zk.dec.com>   Vic Mendham wrote:  E > I have a script which searches for last logins older than x, anyone A > have any idea how to modify it so that it disregards an account  > flagged as disuser?   P Here are a few code samples to help solve that problem, and some DCL date hints.J First, as someone else also pointed out, you could consider to read SYSUAF directlyR from DCL. My personal expectation is the the SYSUAF listing and binary formats are  N both unlikely to ever change in the fields used, but there is no garantuee for either. Q The toughest part of reading sysuaf.dat  is to grab the binary date. For example:   
 $if p1.eqs.""  $then H $ write sys$output "Please provide last-login (interactive) cutoff date" $ exit $else  $ cut_date = f$cvtime(p1)  $ 6 $!libr/extr=$uafdef/out=uafdef.tmp sys$library:lib.mlb" $!EQU    UAF$S_LASTLOGIN_I       8$ $!EQU    UAF$Q_LASTLOGIN_I       396 $!EQU    UAF$L_FLAGS     468 $!EQU    UAF$V_DISACNT   4 $ K $open /read /share uaf 'f$parse("SYSUAF","SYS$SYSTEM:.DAT",,,"SYNTAX_ONLY")  $loop: $ read/end=done uaf rec  $ username=f$extr(4,12,rec)  $ bin_date=f$extr(396,8,rec) $ flags   =f$extr(468,4,rec)N $ disuser = - f$cvsi(4,1,flags)  ! or skip flags and use f$cvsi(468*8+4,1,rec)0 $ if f$cvsi(0,32,bin_date) .eq. 0 then goto loop= $ asc_date=f$fao("!%D",f$cvui(32,32,f$fao("!AD",8,bin_date)))  $ cmp_date=f$cvtime(asc_date) ! $ if cmp_date.les.cut_date then - :     write sys$output username, " ", disuser, " ", asc_date
 $goto loop $done:
 $close uaf  Q Now if you are uneasy about reading the data file, then you should read and parse  the listing file. I As much as I am DCL fan, with a proven track-record dare I add, in todays N computing climate I would strongly recommend VMS folks to consider alternative$ text processing tools, notably PERL.M Give it a whirl! You might just like it, and it is available on all platforms  (Unix, Windows, VMS, ...) P The main reason to stick to DCL in my mind is that is is always there on any VMSN box, whereas it may be a little troublesome to get PERL intalled. For the same) reason I still write some tools in MACRO. N Anyway... here is a much similar example to the above, this time done in PERL.P The 'date' manipulation is tricky again, this time because the ascii date in theJ listing can not directly be used for comparisons. I decided to use a quickO subroutine to convert to an encoded intege in the form <YYYY><MM><DD>. I'm sure > there are neat date package available for other manipulations.  
 sub date {   my($date_string) = @_;O   # Skip first char of month string and look up last two in a string as numeric  indicator of month. 0   if ($date_string =~ /(\s*\d+)-.(\w+)-(\d+)/) {E     return 10000*$3 + 50*index("  ANEBARPRAYUNULUGEPCTOVEC",$2) + $1;      }  }  $cut_off_date = "1-JAN-2000";  open (LIS, "< sysuaf.lis");  while (<LIS>) { )   $username = $1 if (/^Username: (\w+)/); 4   if (/^Flags:/) { $disuser = (/DisUser/) ? 1 : 0; }'   if (/^Last Login:\s+(\d+-\w+-\d+)/) {      $last_login = date($1); ,     if ($last_login < date($cut_off_date)) {/       print "$last_login $disuser $username\n";        }      while (<LIS>) { A       last if (/^$/); # skip this users records untill empty line        }      }    }   R Finally, in your example you use some DCL code with LOOPS to do date manipulationsA which do not appear to be needed. Might I suggest something like:   
 $days = 30/ $ first_date = f$cvtime("1-","Absolute","Date") A $ last_of_prev  = f$cvtime(first_date + " -1-","Absolute","Date") 4 $ first_of_prev = "1" + f$extract(2,99,last_of_prev)D $ write sys$output first_date, " ", last_of_prev, " ", first_of_prevG $ thirty_prior = f$cvtime(last_of_prev + "-''days'-","Absolute","Date")    Enjoy! Hein.    > B > Is it as simple as putting in an exclude in my search statement? > D > $!This command procedure lists the last login date of each user on > this system.P > $!---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > $!
 > $ days = 30  > $!F > $! Figure out the first day of this month, the last and first day of > the E > $! previous month and thirty days prior to the first of this month.  > $!--------------------	 > $ x = 0  > $FIRST_LOOP:5 > $ first_date = f$cvtime("-''x'-","Absolute","Date") D > $ if f$extract(0,2,first_date) .eqs. "1-" then goto first_of_month
 > $ x = x + 1  > $ goto first_loop  > $! > $FIRST_OF_MONTH:
 > $ x = x + 1 8 > $ last_of_prev  = f$cvtime("-''x'-","Absolute","Date") > $ first_of_prev = "1" + K > f$extract(f$locate("-",last_of_prev),f$length(last_of_prev),last_of_prev)  > $ x = x + days7 > $ thirty_prior = f$cvtime("-''x'-","Absolute","Date")  > $! > $ node = f$getsyi("nodename") @ > $ write sys$output "Users that have not accessed ''node' since > ''thirty_prior'." < > $ write sys$output "(''days' days prior to ''first_date')" > $!= > $ set message/notext/noseverity/nofacility/noidentification , > $ define/user sysuaf sys$system:sysuaf.dat > $ mcr authorize list /full *5 > $ set message/text/severity/facility/identification & > $ searc sysuaf.lis "Username:","Last2 > Login:"/out=sys$scratch:oldaccounts_searched.tmp > $ delete/nolog sysuaf.lis;9 > $ open/read infile sys$scratch:oldaccounts_searched.tmp  > $! > $ oldies = 0D > $ write sys$output "Username         Last Login     Mode         "D > $ write sys$output "---------------------------------------------" > $LOOP: > $ read infile data/end=nomoreV  > $ user = f$extract(10,16,data) > $ read infile data! > $ inter = f$extract(12,11,data)y! > $ batch = f$extract(45,11,data)- > $!C > $ if f$edit(inter,"collapse") .eqs. "" then inter = "17-Apr-1963"rC > $ if f$edit(batch,"collapse") .eqs. "" then batch = "17-Apr-1963"W5 > $! write sys$output "Inter=''inter':Batch=''batch'"o > $!6 > $ if f$cvtime("''inter'") .gts. f$cvtime("''batch'")
 > $   then > $     last_login = inter" > $     last_mode  = "Interactive"
 > $   else > $     last_login = batch > $     last_mode  = "Batch" > $   endif) > $!% > $ if last_login .eqs. "17-Apr-1963"t
 > $   then8 > $     write sys$output f$fao("!(17AS)",user) + "never"
 > $   else > $!F > $     if f$cvtime("''last_login'") .lts. f$cvtime("''thirty_prior'") > $       then4 > $         if f$extract(2,1,last_login) .eqs. "-" -A >             then last_login = "0" + f$extract (1,10,last_login)M6 > $         write sys$output f$fao("!(17AS)",user) + -- >             f$fao("!(15AS)",last_login) + -p( >             f$fao("!(12AS)",last_mode) > $         oldies = oldies + 1M > $       endift > $   endif-
 > $ goto loopt > $!
 > $NOMORE:D > $ write sys$output "---------------------------------------------"H > $ write sys$output "There are ''oldies' inactive accounts on ''node'." > $ close infile7 > $ delete/nolog sys$scratch:oldaccounts_searched.tmp;*y > $ exit   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 03:32:57 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>, Subject: Re: I Have Seen The IA64 Future !!!/ Message-ID: <3E7C11A9.BF345AA4@vl.videotron.ca>-  	 question:,  L With the return of NT running on the same platform as VMS if that IA64 thingJ succeeds, will EFI provide protection to prevent a rogue microsoft NT fromA fucking up a VMS drive if one system has dual-boot capabilities ?P  M Would an NT system be able to access the FAT container ona VMS drive and messp- with it ? (and vice-versa, for that matter ?)o  L Will EFI (the vanilla version stored in ROM) be able to hide drives from NT, or will NT see all devices ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:39:31 +0100e$ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>, Subject: Re: I Have Seen The IA64 Future !!!* Message-ID: <00A1D41A.1397BA1D.7@decus.de>  & "Hoff Hoffman" <hoff@hp.nospam> wrote:   > [...]r > H >   I've discussed the low-level disk layout at the technical symposium,J >   and I expect to be discussing it at future symposia and future events.G >   Again, from the perspective of OpenVMS and of OpenVMS applications, J >   the disks look IDENTICAL to ALL applications.  From the console, well,G >   we can store what tools and utilities we need into the storage areai' >   that is available to the console.    >  > [...]i  H Is the material on the low-level disk layout presented at the technical A symposium mentioned above available for download (PDF, PPT)? URL?c   Michael    ------------------------------    Date: 22 Mar 2003 12:06:50 -05007 From: "Gareth V. Williams" <graff@cfa0.cfa.harvard.edu>e6 Subject: Re: LOGINOUT.EXE locked by other user problem0 Message-ID: <3e7c982a.0@cfanews.cfa.harvard.edu>  . Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@spamcop.net> wrote:l : In article <3e7a50e4.0@cfanews.cfa.harvard.edu>, "Gareth V. Williams" <graff@cfa0.cfa.harvard.edu> writes:I :> Has anyone any thoughts on this problem that has afflicted our VMS web M :> server in recent days?  The system is V7.2-1, with Purveyor 2.1 and TCP/IPa	 :> 5.0-A.E  N :> Image name:               SCULLY$DKB0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]LOGINOUT.EXEN :> Status:                   %RMS-E-FLK, file currently locked by another user  H : Effective at least 23 years ago, the most frequent cause of this errorH : is a locally written program that opens SYSUAF.DAT without proper fileE : sharing.  A close second might be an add-on product making the samet
 : mistake.  I   Thanks for those thoughts.  The first scenario isn't likely as we don'tbC have any locally-written programs that open SYSUAF.DAT.  The second  scenario is possible:   @ $ SHOW DEVICE/FILES 'F$PARSE("SYSUAF","SYS$SYSTEM:.DAT")'/OUT=o. $ search o. sysuaf.dat9 SSH server 335  33400226  [VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1r9 SSH server 335  33400226  [VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1 @ $ SHOW DEVICE/FILES 'F$PARSE("SYSUAF","SYS$SYSTEM:.DAT")'/OUT=o. $ search o. sysuaf.dat9 SSH server 335  33400226  [VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1t9 SSH server 335  33400226  [VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1v  G   The first SHOW DEVICE was performed while "file locked" messages were B occurring.  The second when they weren't.  "SSH server" is the OSUD SSH server.  Not sure why there should two be entries for SYSUAF.DAT with the same PID.     -- IH ------------------------------------------------------------------------H Gareth V. Williams, MS 18, 60 Garden Street, Cambridge, MA 02138, U.S.A.+ Associate Director, IAU Minor Planet CentereH gwilliams@cfa.harvard.edu        http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/mpc.html7 OpenVMS & RISC OS: refined choices in operating systemsu   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:01:23 -0400>0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>6 Subject: Re: LOGINOUT.EXE locked by other user problem/ Message-ID: <3E7C96DF.110BE757@vl.videotron.ca>w   "Gareth V. Williams" wrote:oB > $ SHOW DEVICE/FILES 'F$PARSE("SYSUAF","SYS$SYSTEM:.DAT")'/OUT=o. > $ search o. sysuaf.dat   to save you time:^  B $PIPE SHOW DEV/FILES/NOSYS device | search sys$input <your string>   ------------------------------   Date: 22 Mar 03 14:51:47 +0100) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) - Subject: Re: new releases of MySQL and Pythonf) Message-ID: <sTM6Jds1DCWL@elias.decus.ch>i  d In article <3E76D765.A46BD358@laposte.net>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois=20PI=C9RONNE?=  writes:O > I have updated the port of MySQL, the current version is now 4.0.11A which is  > the lastest 4.0 version. > M > A source kit can be download at http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/jfp/r > , > C, C++ and MMS is needed to build the kit. > P > I have received some patches for C 6.0 and C++ 6.2 which are not include but I > can provide them separately. u > P > I also suggest to try MySQL Control Center which appear to work nicely with an > VMS MySQL server.eI > It can be download from the official MySQL site (http://www.mysql.com/)t >t  I I've downloaded that thanks. It built successfully, although with quite apA few warnings. Unfortunately when I come to run it, it gives this:a   @RUN_MYSQLD.COM;10  030322 14:44:07  InnoDB: StartedK 030322 14:44:08  Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: Can't find file:o './m ysql/host.frm' (errno: 65535)  030322 14:44:08  Aborting   - 030322 14:44:08  InnoDB: Starting shutdown...t+ 030322 14:44:09  InnoDB: Shutdown completedvO 030322 14:44:09  /$1$DKA0/user/sy/mysql-4_0_12/vms/mysql/mysqld.exe.2: Shutdownl Complete  I I have looked on www.mysql.org and it talks about setting file ownership:l  0 Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13)    , and you've tried setting  - --datadir=/path/to/my/data/directory but you g0 still get the same error, it may be because the 0 databases installed in the mysql data directory . (usually /var/lib/mysql) are not owned by the & mysql daemon, but by the user who ran 0 mysql_install_db. chown them to mysql and chgrp " them to the appropriate group e.g.  # chown -R mysql /var/lib/mysql/mysqle% chgrp -R daemons /var/lib/mysql/mysql    That raises a few questions:  4 1. Should I set up a separate username to run MYSQL?? 2. I cannot find host.frm anywhere in the directory tree. Is it 9    created during initialization or is it simply missing?e< 3. Which .EXE should I point the symbol "MYSQL" at? (Used in    MYSQL_PRIVLIEGES.COM)   -- o
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:59:30 +0100n6 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois=20PI=C9RONNE?= - Subject: Re: new releases of MySQL and Pythonl+ Message-ID: <3E7C9672.ED85BC9B@laposte.net>w   > K > I've downloaded that thanks. It built successfully, although with quite auC > few warnings. Unfortunately when I come to run it, it gives this:h >  > @RUN_MYSQLD.COM;10" > 030322 14:44:07  InnoDB: StartedM > 030322 14:44:08  Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: Can't find file:  > './m > ysql/host.frm' (errno: 65535)1 > 030322 14:44:08  Aborting- > / > 030322 14:44:08  InnoDB: Starting shutdown...a- > 030322 14:44:09  InnoDB: Shutdown completedRQ > 030322 14:44:09  /$1$DKA0/user/sy/mysql-4_0_12/vms/mysql/mysqld.exe.2: Shutdowne
 > Complete > K > I have looked on www.mysql.org and it talks about setting file ownership:  > 1 > Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13)r >  > , and you've tried setting. > --datadir=/path/to/my/data/directory but you1 > still get the same error, it may be because the(1 > databases installed in the mysql data directory / > (usually /var/lib/mysql) are not owned by thes' > mysql daemon, but by the user who rany1 > mysql_install_db. chown them to mysql and chgrp8$ > them to the appropriate group e.g. > % > chown -R mysql /var/lib/mysql/mysql ' > chgrp -R daemons /var/lib/mysql/mysql  >     N Currently, documentation is missing but I have planned to put it on a new site named F http://vmsmysql.dyndns.org. I will start this work probably next week.   Basic installation guide:s   1) unzip the fileC@ 2) restore the saveset, you probably need a ODS-5 disk not sure.# 3) goto the sub directory named vms  4) @logicals "/system" 5) building procedureA# @build_all [vms_ssl/openssl] [zlib]:4 vms_ssl if you have installed HP OpenSSL distribuion; openssl if you have installed standard OpenSSL distributionQG zlib if you have zlib installed (need libz:libz.olb and libz:*.h files)t# 6) goto the sub directory vms.mysqleL       $ spawn/nowait/input=nl:/notif @mysql_root:[vms.mysql]first_run_mysqld        $ @mysql_root:[vms]symbols/       $ @mysql_root:[vms.mysql]mysql_privileges 8       finally (you really have to do the command twice):#       $ mysqladmin -u root shutdownt#       $ mysqladmin -u root shutdownl5       optionally build a few demonstration databases:.3       $ spawn/nowait/input=nl:/notif run_mysqld.come&       $ @mysql_root:[vms.mysql]samp_db%       $ @mysql_root:[vms.mysql]vmsmodr.       $ @mysql_root:[vms.mysql]load_repository+       $ @mysql_root:[vms.mysql]load_objects #       $ mysqladmin -u root shutdownb#       $ mysqladmin -u root shutdownk  1 7) now use the run_mysqld.com to run MySQL serverc     Sorry for any inconvenience.   > That raises a few questions: > 6 > 1. Should I set up a separate username to run MYSQL?L Probably better. I would be nice to build some start procedure which do some
 run/detach  A > 2. I cannot find host.frm anywhere in the directory tree. Is it5; >    created during initialization or is it simply missing?j   See previous instruction  > > 3. Which .EXE should I point the symbol "MYSQL" at? (Used in >    MYSQL_PRIVLIEGES.COM) >   9 symbol MYSQL and some others are defined by the procedues  mysql_root:[vms]symbols.comX     Jean-Franois Pironne   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 08:06:13 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> C Subject: Re: OpenVMS as a growth platform; and low-cost developmentc0 Message-ID: <b5h5hk$hof$1@sparta.btinternet.com>   Hi,o  , VMS Itanium SDKs for $75 - Sounds fantastic!  A Why then do I have to pay 442 (approx $650) for a VMS Alpha SDK?-  J Don't get me wrong I don't condider 442 to be outlandish but niether do IF want to subsidise early Itanium porters. Any chance of an ALL platform review of SDK pricing?   Regards Richard Maher.  < Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:cf15391e.0303201707.609dc699@posting.google.com... G > The HP User Advocacy website (http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org) provideshB > a channel for users to ask questions of HP and get answers.  TheH > following is taken from the most recent 'HP User Group Online Advocacy > Newsletter': > ---e > OpenVMS as a growth platform > ----------------------------H > HP OpenVMS remains a strategic product for the company and the portingF > of the operating system to the Itanium architecture provides HP with. > the opportunity to explore new growth areas. > @ > Most growth opportunities are "solutions led", therefore HP is? > continuing to work with top ISVs in growth industries such asrD > Healthcare and Financial Services to grow the OpenVMS business. InB > addition HP continuously analyze business opportunities in other > market segments. >a, > OpenVMS as a low-cost developer's platform, > ------------------------------------------E > HP is currently preparing pricing for the Itanium-based systems. AsnF > part of this preparation, an HP task force is currently evaluating aF > low-cost developers' platform based on an Itanium-based workstation. > C > HP OpenVMS will be making OpenVMS Software Development Kits (SDK)oF > available for partners at a very low cost ($75) in 2003. InformationA > will be posted on the OpenVMS Web site when they are available.  >>G > For more in-depth information on these responses and to view previousrC > HP responses, visit the HP User Group Online Advocacy's Web site.l9 > http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/index.cfm?source=advocacyu   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Mar 2003 05:37:21 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) C Subject: Re: OpenVMS as a growth platform; and low-cost developmentt3 Message-ID: <84c81kAOCkLR@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  f In article <b5h5hk$hof$1@sparta.btinternet.com>, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes: > Hi,o > . > VMS Itanium SDKs for $75 - Sounds fantastic! > C > Why then do I have to pay 442 (approx $650) for a VMS Alpha SDK?   C Perhaps because you bought a DSPP subscription to released products  (including licenses) as a ISV.  ? In VMS Development lingo (as distinguished from ASAP/CSA/DSPP),-@ an SDK is a pay-minimal-cost copy of Field Test operating system	 software.u   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:59:32 +0000 (UTC)j3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>CC Subject: Re: OpenVMS as a growth platform; and low-cost developmentc2 Message-ID: <b5hj74$ju7$1@hercules.btinternet.com>   Oh!a  # I've gone back to feeling grateful.r   Cheers Richard.h  8 Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:84c81kAOCkLR@eisner.encompasserve.org...pB > In article <b5h5hk$hof$1@sparta.btinternet.com>, "Richard Maher"% <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:a > > Hi,' > >n0 > > VMS Itanium SDKs for $75 - Sounds fantastic! > > E > > Why then do I have to pay 442 (approx $650) for a VMS Alpha SDK?o >hE > Perhaps because you bought a DSPP subscription to released productst  > (including licenses) as a ISV. >oA > In VMS Development lingo (as distinguished from ASAP/CSA/DSPP),iB > an SDK is a pay-minimal-cost copy of Field Test operating system > software.m   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:15:10 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>C Subject: Re: OpenVMS as a growth platform; and low-cost developmentr/ Message-ID: <3E7C8C0D.D6649F9C@vl.videotron.ca>    Richard Maher wrote:H > want to subsidise early Itanium porters. Any chance of an ALL platform > review of SDK pricing?  I agreed. Since IA64 will remain a niche market for VMS with most customersgN likely to stay on the faster alpha and vax for some years, it would make senseI to make the SDK platform agnostic. Heck, send 3 CDs, one for vax, one fort" alpha anf one for that ia64 thing.   ------------------------------   Date: 22 Mar 03 10:34:52 +0100) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)c8 Subject: Re: Remotely opening a window on my workstation) Message-ID: <W7JV9o3v8jkf@elias.decus.ch>p  o In article <3iLea.653$A75.554@news.cpqcorp.net>, "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> writes:  > JF Mezei wrote:tN >> Is there some service or website somehwere that would allow me to open an XQ >> display on my workstation from the remote system ? (to test that capability) ?n > O >> For instance, a web site where I would enter my IP address and it would openeK >> an X-clock or others imple app onto my workstation ?  (or a telnet site)h > G > You do realize that any one else on that system would be able to use  E > your X-11 server to read your keystrokes and mouse clicks, or take   > snapshots of your display? > J > I really would not do X-11 on the Internet unless I trusted everyone on 5 > the remote host not to take advantage of my system.t > K > DECNET transport allows authenticating the user.  TCP/IP only allows you   > to specify the I.P. address. >   J True at the moment, _but_ the Motif 1.3 documentation now up on the HP VMSF site includes a comprehensive looking set of new qualifiers supporting authentication and security.  < See http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/731final/6663/6663PRO.HTML  B Does anyone know when Motif 1.3 is likely to appear on the CONDIST CDs?     --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:11:11 +0100b" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl> Subject: Re: Rich Marcello6 Message-ID: <b5hgck$28q5it$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>  H "Phillip Helbig" <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> schreef in bericht5 news:01KTSHDD82U49H1MPS@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com...aF > > As an ISV interested in growing Customer interest in OpenVMS, as aB > > minimum I would expect that when you get these questions, thatL > > regardless of your personal opinions, you would at least say ".. Here is > > HP's official position .." >hH > Yes, but what is HP's "official position" with regard to VMS?  We willI > help you port to HPUX?  That might not be wise to state.  Or do we havee# > a choice of "official positions"?e >wG > What if the customer says "ah yes, DEC's official position used to be F > "NT on ALPHA is the future", and I invested millions in that and got
 > burned"? >lB > (I suddenly started hearing Nazareth's "Love Hurts" in my head.)  K Exactly. The company I work for is looking at an alternative platform for anL large Sybase application. The current platform options are Windows (on whichJ it runs) or port it to DB/2 on our mainframe (big $$). We're not afraid toJ look at other platforms and of course AS/400 and unix have been discussed.I At one time the name VMS popped up and all but one had at one time workedsC with that platform. They were all still favorably impressed with itrI (stability, reliability, ease of use etc.). The majority thought that VMSe+ was gone (together with the VAX platform!).iL If I had had any positive signal from HP over the past months (and, earlier,K from Compaq for that matter) then I'd have had no problems in pursuing thatlI road. My fear is exactly the one Philip mentions in his post: I propose ae= completely new platform and within a year I get burned by HP.n  
 Hans Vlems   PSH This same company was once a DEC customer: they went for NT on Alpha and3 Wolfpack in '97 or '98. That memory is still there.t   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:54:52 +0000 (UTC)a3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>mU Subject: Sliightly OT: OSS$_WLOCK (was Re: LOGINOUT.EXE locked by other user problem) / Message-ID: <b5i81c$s9m$1@titan.btinternet.com>L   Hi  I Something to make your problems worse rather than better, but when are weaK going to be able to lock a record between $getuai and $setuai? Like you canRJ with $get_security and $set_security. Otherwise people will keep accessing& the UAF directly for RMS record locks.  > Surely the Itanium port is a good time to revisit such things?   Regards Richard Maher.  @ Gareth V. Williams <graff@cfa0.cfa.harvard.edu> wrote in message* news:3e7a50e4.0@cfanews.cfa.harvard.edu...H > Has anyone any thoughts on this problem that has afflicted our VMS webL > server in recent days?  The system is V7.2-1, with Purveyor 2.1 and TCP/IP > 5.0-A. >tD > Every so often (sometimes as frequently as once every 2 mins to asI > infrequently as it is difficult to get it to occur once an hour!) a cgieF > request from one of the forms on our web site will fail with a "fileJ > locked by another user" error.  Which file is locked is not mentioned inK > the error message.  After some digging and examination of OPCOM messages,H > I found this error:e >n: > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-MAR-2003 18:16:30.15  %%%%%%%%%%%* > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on SCULLYK > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on SCULLY, system  >  id: 6706 : > Auditable event:          Detached process login failure3 > Event time:               20-MAR-2003 18:16:30.15 $ > PID:                      33400360+ > Process name:             Purveyor   000Ds! > Username:                 HTTPDi# > Process owner:            [HTTPD]a
 > Image name:u1 SCULLY$DKB0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]LOGINOUT.EXEeH > Status:                   %RMS-E-FLK, file currently locked by another user >T. > LOGINOUT.EXE is installed as a shared image: >  > $ installo > INSTALL> list/full loginoutd >C- > DISK$SCU_SYSTEM:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE>.EXE + >    LOGINOUT;1       Open Hdr SharAddr PrvI* >         Entry access count         = 624, >         Current / Maximum shared   = 0 / 4( >         Global section count       = 5F >         Privileges = CMKRNL SYSNAM LOG_IO ALTPRI TMPMBX SYSPRV AUDIT SECURITYF >         Authorized = CMKRNL SYSNAM LOG_IO ALTPRI TMPMBX SYSPRV AUDIT SECURITY+ >         Resident section count     = 00009! >         ARB Support = READ_ONLYL >BE >   My first question would be "Why is a installed shared image being=I > locked?"  A second would be "How do I locate what is locking the file?"- >- >- > --J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------J > Gareth V. Williams, MS 18, 60 Garden Street, Cambridge, MA 02138, U.S.A.- > Associate Director, IAU Minor Planet Center J > gwilliams@cfa.harvard.edu        http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/mpc.html9 > OpenVMS & RISC OS: refined choices in operating systemsb   ------------------------------   Date: 22 Mar 2003 10:24:27 GMT From: rmk@rmkhome.comt$ Subject: Re: Some Windows ammunition3 Message-ID: <3e7c39db$0$191$75868355@news.frii.net>f  * Paul Sture <p_sture@elias.decus.ch> wrote:  M > Maybe so. Meanwhile my web logs are full of attempted attacks from existinga > viruses...  K And not just new ones. Old Code Red, and NIMDA. and others still out there.f -- g, rmk@rmkhome.com		http://www.rmkhome.com/~rmk   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:42:30 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> $ Subject: Re: Some Windows ammunition2 Message-ID: <3E7C904C.4892108B@firstdbasource.com>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: > V > In article <3E797A7F.AC9913E6@127.0.0.1>, Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> writes: > >JF Mezei wrote:S > >> How can one continue to develop on Windows when you are spending all your time7 > >> installing patches ?a > >> VMS all the way ;-) > >4I > >I've not checked the validity, but I've no reason to doubt the reportsbI > >that these other worm infestations that folks think are under control,lG > >have meanwhile planted little time bombs, so far undetected ready to 6 > >unleash another wave of regret among windoze users. > M > I've found such a "time bomb". Since installation of the latest fix for XP, D > MSIE (and Outlook when reading a HTML mail) die now immediately... >  > -- > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERi' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist) > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist  F One of the reasons I don't use outlook from home....  unfortunately, I am tied to it at the office.   --   Regards,  6 Michael Austin            OpenVMS User since June 19847 First DBA Source, Inc.    Registered Linux User #261163g   ------------------------------   Date: 22 Mar 2003 10:15:21 GMT From: rmk@rmkhome.comO/ Subject: Re: Sun unix/linux new nasty bug cert!n3 Message-ID: <3e7c37b8$0$191$75868355@news.frii.net>e  3 Martin Vorlaender <martin@radiogaga.harz.de> wrote:f  I > All of the RPC implementations mentioned are based on ONC RPC (i.e. SuniG > RPC). I'd make an educated guess that all VMS TCP/IP stacks use that,Y > too.  G This was fixed in NetBSD back around 1995 or so. Probably doesn't existE in OpenBSD either. -- T, rmk@rmkhome.com		http://www.rmkhome.com/~rmk   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Mar 2003 09:41:23 -0800. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)Q Subject: Re: [Q] Files not found during image backup, w/ and w/o directory-specs.u= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0303220941.6a759bbd@posting.google.com>A  f young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) wrote in message news:<NWKPzgkKZl7t@eisner.encompasserve.org>...p > In article <b096a4ee.0303211924.17bc0c19@posting.google.com>, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes:w > > spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) wrote in message news:<b096a4ee.0303211500.3ab58fcf@posting.google.com>...c [...]oC > >> $            BACKUP SYS$SYSDEVICE _MKA0:SY030321.BCK /SAVE_SET  > >> /LABEL=BACKUP    - J > >>                  /VERIFY /IMAGE /IGNORE=INTERLOCK /BLOCK=32256 /NOLOG
 > >> [...]K > >> %BACKUP-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$SYSDEVICE:[XX]XXMONREM.LOG;2087 as1
 > >> input' > >> -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such fileII > >> %BACKUP-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$SYSDEVICE:[]XXMONREM.LOG;2087 as 
 > >> input' > >> -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such filetI > >> %BACKUP-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$SYSDEVICE:[]XXMONREM.LOG;2086 asf
 > >> input' > >> -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file 6 > >> %BACKUP-I-STARTVERIFY, starting verification pass > >> i > >> Disclaimer: JMHO  > >> Alan E. Feldman > >  > > > 	Normally, these are files that were there during backup but< > 	the verification pass isn't finding them.  Often the case@ > 	with temp files.  Judging from file names and version numbersA > 	you may have purged them off in the time between actual backupo > 	and verification. > 	 > 				Robl  F But these files were not found during the *save* pass. And one of themD was not found *twice*, once with and once without a real dir-spec. IA assume they were found during the initial scan of INDEXF.SYS, but E deleted before the directory pass. But that still doesn't explain theo details of it.  F Note: I realize this isn't a problem; I just want to understand better& how VMS BACKUP and file deletion work.   Thanks.l   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldmana   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Mar 2003 11:57:52 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Q Subject: Re: [Q] Files not found during image backup, w/ and w/o directory-specs.t3 Message-ID: <V4fRXQ9WD1BX@eisner.encompasserve.org>t  n In article <b096a4ee.0303220941.6a759bbd@posting.google.com>, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes:  ? >> 	Normally, these are files that were there during backup buta= >> 	the verification pass isn't finding them.  Often the case A >> 	with temp files.  Judging from file names and version numbers:B >> 	you may have purged them off in the time between actual backup >> 	and verification.0 >> E
 >> 				Rob > H > But these files were not found during the *save* pass. And one of themF > was not found *twice*, once with and once without a real dir-spec. IC > assume they were found during the initial scan of INDEXF.SYS, butpG > deleted before the directory pass. But that still doesn't explain then > details of it. > H > Note: I realize this isn't a problem; I just want to understand better( > how VMS BACKUP and file deletion work.  6 The best practice is to only backup quiescent volumes.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.160 ************************