1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 01 Nov 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 606       Contents: Re: Copy of SuperLat Re: SIMH used with VMS?  Re: VUP? RE: VUP? Re: VUP? Re: World Wide Wake]< Re: [OT/FUN] HP live chat popped up when browsing www.hp.com  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:36:59 +0000 (UTC). From: Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com> Subject: Re: Copy of SuperLat , Message-ID: <bo0nfb$cfl$1@reader2.panix.com>  T On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:09:40 -0600, David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote: > Memnon Emmanuel wrote:I > > I've been trying to get a hold of a copy of SuperLAT for either NT4.0 H > > or Windows 98, but all 3 companies that have owned this product haveH > > gone out of bussiness (Meirdian,Soft..something,and a third I forget > > altogether)., > > Does anyone have a copy I could try out?J > > (If this product still exists or is being sold by someone else PLEASE, > > PLEASE let me know.); > Amazing. Your environment's net-folks still tolerate LAT? J > Note sure what SuperLAT would do for you that can't be served some otherG > way. Maybe if you describe your quandry in some detail, other posters ! > might have a suggestion or two.   E I still need LAT to support actual multisession VT520's that we still D use because: 1. we have them, and 2. they work without needing a PC.F If someone made a cheap, good telnet-capable thin client, I'd consider@ it (and thus get rid of LAT), but I haven't seen one yet.  (I'veA considered building my own using embedded Linux on a single-board 
 computer.)  " Perhaps the OP has a similar need.   --  7 Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com> (lose the Q's)    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:05:12 +0100( From: "H Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>  Subject: Re: SIMH used with VMS?: Message-ID: <bnvt4p$16ja1j$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>  K It is cheating somewhat but the free picoVAX emulator from the Charon folks I has support for Windows CD roms. Use the makedisk utility (available from L the same site) to create a couple of RA82's and attach them to picoVAX. Boot off the CD, that's it.I picoVAX only runs for a couple of months and slowly decreases the maximum L uptime of the simulated processor. But once you have one VMS disk you're all
 set for simh. F I can easily burn a VMS image readable under a windows system for you.H Another method is to use linux or unix and make a raw copy of the VMS cd (the dd command).    Hans   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:39:47 +0100( From: "H Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> Subject: Re: VUP? : Message-ID: <bnvrl3$15ors3$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>  1 "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> schreef in bericht . news:3fa32164$0$27028$626a54ce@news.free.fr... > VUP? >  > VAX Unit Performance > or8 > VAX Units of Processing (*never* heard of this one...) >  > D. > # VUPS: Vax Unit of Processor Speed ?    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 06:02:48 -0800# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: RE: VUP? 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEPNIFAA.tom@kednos.com>   3 It referred to the throughput of a VAX 780 ca. 1980    >-----Original Message----- . >From: H Vlems [mailto:hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl]+ >Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:40 AM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com >Subject: Re: VUP? >  >  > 2 >"Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> schreef in bericht/ >news:3fa32164$0$27028$626a54ce@news.free.fr...  >> VUP?  >> >> VAX Unit Performance  >> or 9 >> VAX Units of Processing (*never* heard of this one...)  >> >> D.  >>$ >VUPS: Vax Unit of Processor Speed ? >  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). B >Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 10:53:02 -0500 . From: Glenn Everhart <Everhart-nospam@gce.com> Subject: Re: VUP? + Message-ID: <bo0l8c$1k6$2@bob.news.rcn.net>    H Vlems wrote:  3 > "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> schreef in bericht 0 > news:3fa32164$0$27028$626a54ce@news.free.fr... >  >>VUP? >> >>VAX Unit Performance >>or8 >>VAX Units of Processing (*never* heard of this one...) >> >>D. >> > % > VUPS: Vax Unit of Processor Speed ?  >  > > This got used by DEC when others were using MIPS, meaning some; IBM 370 model MIPS. Turns out that a VAX11/780 was called a < roughly "1 MIPS" machine because its performance was roughlyA that of some IBM mainframe at that speed. Actually it was running > something like 500K VAX instructions per second. When DEC came= out with other models, it used a measure directly against the > 780 rather than something based by arguments against a totally> different machine. Interestingly, the old SPECmarks were based# on the 780 also, with Vax 780 as 1.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:28:15 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> Subject: Re: World Wide Wake] 0 Message-ID: <3FA36E9F.35BE1BBA@sture.homeip.net>   Bill Todd wrote:@   A variant of Cincom's TOTAL (no shame there - DEC's first DBMSC > was a reworked version of Cullinane's IDMS), it was only somewhat M > heavier-weight than RMS but provided real database capabilities without the J > overhead of other hierarchical or network DBMSs of the time (or of their > relational successors).  > K > If Cincom still sells TOTAL it would presumably be a reasonable migration J > alternative from IMAGE.  There are certainly cases in which a relational > database would not be.    H Holy mackerel Batman! I was just talking about TOTAL to a colleague whenG we were in "reminicences mode" a couple of days ago. Way back when, the E company I worked for bought TOTAL, coupled with SHADOW (a lightwieght : form of CICS), when IBM were trying to push DL/1 and CICS.  H One of the best IT courses I ever attended was the TOTAL one, given by aG Cincom guy. Sod PowerPoint, those were the days when true professionals H did it with carefully prepared flipcharts, notes and handouts, and could1 answer any technical question you cared to throw.   C And were prepared to admit that they didn't know the answer to some C questions, but rather than ignoring you, would be on the phone that   evening to HQ to find an answer.  G Mind you, the DEC lady who ran an RSX course I attended about 18 months F later came an extremely close second. Same deal really, both lecturers' beat IBM's best of the time hands down.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 14:18:54 +0100 ) From: Michael Unger <unger@despammed.com> E Subject: Re: [OT/FUN] HP live chat popped up when browsing www.hp.com : Message-ID: <bo0f3f$16j5sd$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  , On 2003-10-30 23:22, "Didier Morandi" wrote:  A > Looking for info, I just went to my favourite OpenVMS pages on  N > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms when a window suddenly popped up on my M$ L > screen and a chat session started, powered by LivePerson. Here is the log: >  > [...]  >  > Experimented that before?   E No. I simply block execution of JavaScript. Pop-up windows are one of  the main reasons.    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. = My e-mail account at DECUS Munich will expire on 31-Dec-2003.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.606 ************************