1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 11 Nov 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 626       Contents:; Re: Alpha Server 1000A OS install and/or documentation help ; Re: Alpha Server 1000A OS install and/or documentation help ; Re: Alpha Server 1000A OS install and/or documentation help $ Re: Concurrent users from Accounting Erasing a disk Re: Erasing a disk Re: Erasing a disk Re: Erasing a disk Re: Erasing a disk Re: Erasing a disk( Fonts for printing from a decwindows app+ Re: How long until IT employment vanishes ? = Re: How to determine how much TAPE-GB is required for DISK-GB = Re: How to determine how much TAPE-GB is required for DISK-GB # Re: Image needs to know where it is ' Re: NCL Blocking syntax - help required ' Re: NCL Blocking syntax - help required  Re: OpenVMS and HP Nimbus 0 Re: Oracle Migration Problem when going to ds15.! Re: OT: an example of a modern OS  Re: Performance problem ! Re: problems with ITRC patch site  Re: The old DEC complex. VAX Telemarketers!! $ Re: VMS not mentioned by HP....again Re: VMS Spiffy Text Editors   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:54:08 +0000 * From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]>D Subject: Re: Alpha Server 1000A OS install and/or documentation help' Message-ID: <boqbih$fk9$1@lore.csc.com>    Chris Moore wrote: > K > Pretty much all your questions on docs, specs, options, etc. are answered  > from the following page: > E > http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/archive/1000a/1000a_tech.html  > N > Looks like OpenVMS 6.2-1H3 (Alpha !) is the minimum version to run on these.I > We have a couple similar that have been running 7.1 reliably for over 3 G > years.  An Alpha Binaries CD will boot directly as has been mentioned 
 > previously:   F I'm having some interesting problems with an Alpha 1000. Hobby system.  G For reasons of software build, I've chosen AlphaVMS 6.2. This was a new B install from the CD. However I discovered I could not patch it :o|  = So I decided to install 6.2-1H3, same way, fresh from the CD.    Guess what, I can't patch it.   A I have got a directory with all the patches in, I use VMSINSTAL *  [location] and just C about ALL the patches say "will not be installed ... at the same or 8 higher version..." "This would result in a downgrade..."  E So I'm puzzled. The patch installation procedure is testing the image G version, but it appears to be getting it wrong. Standalone, full booted  system, using SYSTEM account.    --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:40:02 -0700 % From: "Bunki" <kmstoddard@getnet.net> D Subject: Re: Alpha Server 1000A OS install and/or documentation help7 Message-ID: <3fb102dc$0$25271$4c5eba9e@news.getnet.net>    Thank for your help, David.   5 "David Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in message & news:3FB019DE.3000809@tsoft-inc.com... > K. M. Stoddard wrote:  >     .    .	    <snip>     .    . > F > As for booting a CD in the drive, a simple BOOT DKA400 should do it. > : I thought so too but the response from the boot loader is,   "Building FRU table 6    block 0 of dka400.4.0.6.0 is not a valid boot block    bootstrap failure"   L I'm not sure if the CD is an image file or a mix of image and executables soK IF there is a boot block on this CD, I don't know how to access it from the I boot prompt.  I was hoping someone out there encountered this same issue. J I've done upgrades from 7.1 to 7.2 but it is quite different to do a fresh install.   >     .    .	    <snip>     .    . > 
 > $ sy/noproc L > OpenVMS V6.2-1H2  on node LEO  10-NOV-2003 14:59:17.64  Uptime  4 04:20:16 > $ sho lic/cha ) > VMS/LMF Charge Information for node LEO < > This is a AlphaServer 1000 4/266, hardware model type 1090K > Type: A, Units Required: 15     (VAX/VMS Capacity or OpenVMS Unlimited or  Base) 6 > Type: B, * Not Permitted *      (VAX/VMS F&A Server); > Type: C, * Not Permitted *      (VAX/VMS Concurrent User) 7 > Type: D, * Not Permitted *      (VAX/VMS Workstation) F > Type: E, * Not Permitted *      (VAX/VMS System Integrated Products)8 > Type: F, * Not Permitted *      (VAX Layered Products), > Type: G, * Not Permitted *      (Reserved): > Type: H, Units Required: 1050   (Alpha Layered Products)4 > Type: I, Units Required: 1050   (Layered Products) > J > Note that the avoce is from an AlphaServer 1000 4/266, not a 1000A 5/500 which I I > think you stated you have.  The later processor may not be supported in  V6.2, I > but, V6.2 with hardware specific extensions does work on an AlphaServer  1000.  > J This is interesting.  What I don't see is anything suggesting that OpenVMSE V6.2-1H2 is a VAX or Alpha OS image.  Whereas the license information $ clearly shows the hardware is Alpha.   >     .    .	    <snip>     .    . > C > If this system is for commercial use, then you should think about 
 contacting HP H > and getting a current version of VMS.  If it's not for commercial use, then getL > a new hobbyist license and media with the latest available version of VMS. An > Alpha/VMS version of VMS!  > J It is not commercial.  I just want to keep up my VMS System AdministrationH and VAX/DEC C programming skills while looking for work.  I have gone toJ EncompassUs and registered for the Hobbyist License and I have gone to theJ Hobbyist WEB site to try to find V7.2 but all they have posted is V7.3.  IK really would rather prefer to stay with a more stable release than V7.3, if L possible.  I have an e-mail request into the WEB Master at this time for any4 URLs on the site that lead to the V7.2 distribution.     Thanks, again, for your help.    Regards,   -- K. M. Stoddard  J "One must think like a hero to behave like a merely decent human being." -
 May Sarton   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:49:37 -0700 % From: "Bunki" <kmstoddard@getnet.net> D Subject: Re: Alpha Server 1000A OS install and/or documentation help7 Message-ID: <3fb1051d$0$25256$4c5eba9e@news.getnet.net>     Thank you for your input, Chris.  1 "Chris Moore" <just@my.twocents> wrote in message 3 news:J0Wrb.3452$fB3.342966@news20.bellglobal.com... K > Pretty much all your questions on docs, specs, options, etc. are answered  > from the following page: > E > http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/archive/1000a/1000a_tech.html  > J I will scour this site hoping to find the boot parameters and compare them to the settings I'm seeing.   G > Looks like OpenVMS 6.2-1H3 (Alpha !) is the minimum version to run on  these.I > We have a couple similar that have been running 7.1 reliably for over 3 G > years.  An Alpha Binaries CD will boot directly as has been mentioned 
 > previously:  >  > >>> B DKA400:  > J The boot loader doesn't like the colon (":"), "device dka400: is invalid", but b dka400 is acceptable. :-)    I appreciate your help.    Enjoy the day,   -- K. M. StoddardJ "One must think like a hero to behave like a merely decent human being." -
 May Sarton   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:31:45 -0500 < From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>- Subject: Re: Concurrent users from Accounting : Message-ID: <bor6e4$1gvbq0$1@ID-141708.news.uni-berlin.de>   Mark Jilson wrote:= > FWIW I've logged a suggestion to have ACCOUNTING /REPORT be  able to  > report start & finish times. > ...   = If anyone is changing ACCOUNTING, please change it so it does  not do this anymore;
 $ acc/sinc %ACC-E-READERR, error reading % SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]ACCOUNTNG.DAT;480 / -ACC-W-INVTIME, record 1 has time in the future  %ACC-E-READERR, error reading % SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]ACCOUNTNG.DAT;480 / -ACC-W-INVTIME, record 2 has time in the future  %ACC-E-READERR, error reading % SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]ACCOUNTNG.DAT;480 / -ACC-W-INVTIME, record 3 has time in the future  %ACC-E-READERR, error reading % SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]ACCOUNTNG.DAT;480 / -ACC-W-INVTIME, record 4 has time in the future  %ACC-E-READERR, error reading % SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]ACCOUNTNG.DAT;480 / -ACC-W-INVTIME, record 5 has time in the future  %ACC-E-READERR, error reading % SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]ACCOUNTNG.DAT;480 / -ACC-W-INVTIME, record 6 has time in the future 1 %ACC-E-READERR, error reading SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR   = We had a problem here today with someone changing the time on : one box to 4-APR-2004 but I can not look at the accounting< records to see who was one the box at the time the clock was= adjusted. We do not audit time changes so I have to see these & 6 records to figure out what happened.   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:40:50 -0600 1 From: "Grealy, Patrick" <PGrealy@sph.uth.tmc.edu>  Subject: Erasing a disk L Message-ID: <EEC575D39D864C4BBAE8CD309982B0F207152A@sphnt33.sph.uth.tmc.edu>   Hi, C We are preparing to surplus some old disks, some of which contain = F sensitive data. Are there any good VMS utilities that will erase all = data on a disk?  Thanks,  Pat G.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:45:13 -0600 ( From: brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon) Subject: Re: Erasing a disk 1 Message-ID: <03111108451332@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>    > Hi, M > We are preparing to surplus some old disks, some of which contain sensitive L > data. Are there any good VMS utilities that will erase all data on a disk?	 > Thanks,  > Pat G   
 INITIALIZE     /ERASE           /ERASE         /NOERASE (default)  B      Physically destroys deleted data by writing over it. ControlsA      the data security erase (DSE) operation on the volume before F      initializing it. The /ERASE qualifier applies to Files-11 On-DiskB      Structure Level 2 and 5 disks and ANSI magnetic tape volumes,E      and is valid for magnetic tape devices that support the hardware :      erase function, such as TU78 and MSCP magnetic tapes.  F      If you specify the /ERASE qualifier, a DSE operation is performedC      on the volume. For disk devices, the ERASE volume attribute is A      set. In effect, each file on the volume is erased when it is 
      deleted.   D      Note that the amount of time taken by the DSE operation dependsF      on the volume size; the INITIALIZE/ERASE command is always slower)      than the INITIALIZE/NOERASE command.          J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:51:07 -0500 ) From: "rob kas" <robnospam@paychoice.com>  Subject: Re: Erasing a disk / Message-ID: <vr1tqi5bf3ue53@corp.supernews.com>   1     A Hammer and a drill followed by a acid bath.         < "Grealy, Patrick" <PGrealy@sph.uth.tmc.edu> wrote in messageF news:EEC575D39D864C4BBAE8CD309982B0F207152A@sphnt33.sph.uth.tmc.edu... Hi, K We are preparing to surplus some old disks, some of which contain sensitive J data. Are there any good VMS utilities that will erase all data on a disk? Thanks,  Pat G.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:58:43 +0000 * From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]> Subject: Re: Erasing a disk ' Message-ID: <bor0u4$nc5$1@lore.csc.com>    "Grealy, Patrick" wrote: >  > We are preparing to surplus some old disks, some of which contain sensitive data. Are >there any good VMS utilities that will erase all data on a disk?    Define sensitive.   H Rumour has it that there's a military project which managed to read data after 100 write passes.   F Hoff has a great tale about "erasing data from disks" which comes from0 the end of a gun (the business end)... Cue Hoff.   --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:36:03 GMT 4 From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: Erasing a disk / Message-ID: <3FB10ECC.F055182@blueyonder.co.uk>    Nic Clews wrote: >  > "Grealy, Patrick" wrote: > >  > > We are preparing to surplus some old disks, some of which contain sensitive data. Are >there any good VMS utilities that will erase all data on a disk?  >  > Define sensitive.  > J > Rumour has it that there's a military project which managed to read data > after 100 write passes.  > H > Hoff has a great tale about "erasing data from disks" which comes from2 > the end of a gun (the business end)... Cue Hoff.  @ OTOH, if the sort of people with those resources want your data,8 they probably have it already and don't need to scrounge6 around on your surplus several times erased disks :-)   D But if you are really worried, physically destroy the disk platters.        --   tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:51:21 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)  Subject: Re: Erasing a disk ( Message-ID: <bor7ip$ktg$2@pcls4.std.com>  3 "Grealy, Patrick" <PGrealy@sph.uth.tmc.edu> writes:    >Hi,D >We are preparing to surplus some old disks, some of which contain =G >sensitive data. Are there any good VMS utilities that will erase all =  >data on a disk?  A What do you mean by 'sensitive'?  If it's some sort of government = classified data, there are strict rules depending on level of > classification.  For some overwriting the drive N times is OK,( for others they will insist on thermite.  = How much would any potential "someones" pay to have the data? ; A simple $ INIT/ERASE will put the data out of reach of all : but government spooks and others with fancy electronics to9 recover the data, and a budget for such things, but there ' *are* those out there with such things.  --   -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:12:37 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>1 Subject: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app ) Message-ID: <3FB0C408.1CB78087@istop.com>   J In an X application, there is a routine that supplies the application with available X fonts.  G However, if one wants to generate postscript output for printing or PDF H generation how can one find out which postscript fonts are available for) inclusion into the generated postscript ?   N Is there an official method/API to obtain that list, or must one manually scanL the contents of the [sysfont] directory structure for *.XDPS$OUTLINE files ?  K Also, since display postscript has been desupported by Compaq/HP, are those L font files gone from VMS with no postscript fonts left on the system disk ?   L Also, is there an easy way to generate postcript fonts from the bitmap fontsI that comes with DECwindows ? (I realise that the postscript font would be   bitmapped instead of outline). ?    L What VMS needs is an easy API to get list of printers, and for each printer,K the printer type as well as access to PPD files which contain the printer's $ pedigree (including built-in fonts).   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:50:43 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 4 Subject: Re: How long until IT employment vanishes ?H Message-ID: <TO5sb.24674$HoK.11556@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  
 leslie wrote: - > JF Mezei (jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com) wrote:  >>B >> The minute SAP and Microsoft start to get some competition thatF >> offers much lower priced products, you can bet that they will start> >> to move programmers to India so they can lower their costs. >> >  > They've already started... > . >    http://news.com.com/2100-1021-996440.html8 >    SAP to invest $120 million in India | CNET News.com >  > + >    http://makeashorterlink.com/?F1ED25D76 F >    Microsoft planning huge BPO cluster in India - The Economic Times > G >   "BANGALORE: Microsoft, the world's No.1 software maker, is planning F >    to build one of the largest BPO clusters in the country involving  >    around 9,000 professionals. > ? >    The company, which commenced its pilot BPO project, called G >    Microsoft Global Product Support Centre (GPSC) in May this year at F >    Bangalore, in now embarking on full-fledged BPO operations. (WillD >    the BPO business overtake software and hardware in the infotech > sector in India?)  > F >    The operations here have the mandate to support around 54 millionF >    users across Microsoft's product line, which includes Win Office,$ >    Win Server systems and .NET..." > + >    http://makeashorterlink.com/?G3DD21D76 F >    Microsoft planning huge BPO cluster in India - The Economic Times       There's more.....     Circuit City Outsources HR Admin? The consumer-electronics retailer is handing the work to Exult, 9 which will do it from Charlotte, N.C., and Mumbai, India. E http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/ednX0EeWU50V20CDFZ0AB    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:05:01 +0000 0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>F Subject: Re: How to determine how much TAPE-GB is required for DISK-GB4 Message-ID: <boq8nu$s11$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>   Hoff Hoffman wrote: ^ > In article <03110715300574@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>, brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon) writes: > R > :Now I was wondering if there is a way to determine how much TAPE will be neededN > :for DISK, using the variances of number of files, file size, etc.  Is there" > :such a methodology out there?   > E >   Please consider a review of the associated section in the OpenVMS I >   Frequently Asked Questions document, and specifically _How do I check ' >   for free space on a (BACKUP) tape?_   @ Did that - took a while to find it (buried in the miscellaneous J section), and found virtually no new information relating to the question.  G It's all very well telling people to read the faq, but a bit much when   it doesn't help!   Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:06:07 -0600 ( From: brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon)F Subject: Re: How to determine how much TAPE-GB is required for DISK-GB1 Message-ID: <03111108060729@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>   G > >   Please consider a review of the associated section in the OpenVMS K > >   Frequently Asked Questions document, and specifically _How do I check ) > >   for free space on a (BACKUP) tape?_  > B > Did that - took a while to find it (buried in the miscellaneous L > section), and found virtually no new information relating to the question. > I > It's all very well telling people to read the faq, but a bit much when   > it doesn't help!  L I looked at that also - there are some bits and pieces - will need to put itL all together.  Hoff made a suggestion that I start my "review" - and it is aK good place to start... however you are correct - not the total answer I was  hoping for... :(  G And it is as I expected, disk to tape is not an exact science!  I guess & marketing has not figured that out...   L I plan on developing an application to "guess" the disk to tape then compareI that "guess" with the actual bytes put to tape.  I should come up with an 2 algorithm - with a bit of a fudge factor.  I hope.         J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:14:24 -0700 % From: "Bunki" <kmstoddard@getnet.net> , Subject: Re: Image needs to know where it is7 Message-ID: <3fb10aea$0$25231$4c5eba9e@news.getnet.net>   K Should I assume you are "creating" the image through a programming language L or are you hoping to supply command line parameters to the invocation of the image?  I If the former is true, then the other suggestions already posted are your K best bet.  If the latter is true, you may have to simply write a DCL script 
 to either,6 A) SET DIR to the location of the companion files, or,H B) create your own process logicals based on the system manager logicalsF (pointing to your location, not theirs) in your script.  I.E., [systemE logicals] comp.dir = dua0:[sys,man] and your process logical would be & something like, comp.dir=dua1:[my,dir]  
 Carpe' Diem!!  -- K. M. StoddardJ "One must think like a hero to behave like a merely decent human being." -
 May Sarton    7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:3FAD74F0.D4E51224@istop.com... L > What are the different ways for an image to find out in which directory it is
 > stored ? > K > If an application  needs to open companion files,  it would be nice to be  ableE > to store such files next to the image file, and have the image file K > automatically find out where it resides so it could then find those files  byF > providing full file specification. (instead of relying on the system manager 4 > defining some logical pointing to that directory). > G > I know that with DCL, one can use F$ENVIRONMENT("PROCEDURE") and then  F$PARSE H > to get full psecification of current procedure.  How can image get its > equivalent information ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:16:51 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>0 Subject: Re: NCL Blocking syntax - help required0 Message-ID: <3FB0E142.716DA71F@sture.homeip.net>   Robert Deininger wrote:  > = > In article <3FAE0776.297D4D79@sture.homeip.net>, Paul Sture " > <nospam@sture.homeip.net> wrote: > ) > >OK, dumb Sunday morning question here.  > > : > >My operator log is full of messages like the following: > >  > >  > >  > G > DECnet plus messages always identify themselves within the message...  > > > >-- %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   9-NOV-2003 03:40:18.82  %%%%%%%%%%%% > >Message from user SYSTEM on MYNODE K > >Event: Address Unreachable PDU Discard from: Node LOCAL:.MYNODE Routing, J >         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^J >         ^    (1)                                   (2)            (3)  ^J >         ^                                                              ^J >         ^< This is the event you want to block                         ^J >                                                                        ^J >                                                                        ^J >                and this is the thing that generates it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>^ > C > You typically modify NET$EVENT_LOCAL.NCL to block these messages.  >  > I would try this NCL command:  > E > BLOCK EVENT DISPATCHER OUTBOUND STREAM local_stream GLOBAL FILTER - 7 >    ((NODE, ROUTING), Address Unreachable PDU Discard) & >       (2)    (3)                 (1) > I > ... where I've put numbers in parentheses to show how the components of 9 > the message correspond to the parts of the NCL command.  > J > This is a global filter; it will block all ROUTING messages of this type > from any node.  E Thanks. Those messages were making it hard to separate the wheat from 
 the chaff.     > 0 > >        at: 2003-11-09-03:40:18.825+01:00Iinf4 > >        Discard Reason=Destination Addrs Unknown,9 > >        Source Address=49::00-36:AA-00-04-00-7A-D8:20, < > >        Forwarding Address=49::00-36:AA-00-04-00-7B-D8:20: > >        eventUid   7058A3A3-1266-11D8-89BD-44494E412020: > >        entityUid  6EC830EC-C670-11D7-8375-AA0004007AD8: > >        streamUid  71CE8E0D-C670-11D7-83BA-AA0004007AD8 > >  > > I > >These appear to occur when my satellite node is switched off (no sense . > >burning electricity when I'm not using it). > > G > >Can someone suggest the correct NCL syntax for blocking this please.  > >  > >  > >-- 
 > >Paul Sture    --     --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:18:07 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>0 Subject: Re: NCL Blocking syntax - help required0 Message-ID: <3FB0E18F.5595CA6C@sture.homeip.net>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: >  > In article <rdeininger-0911030916220001@user-uinj067.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  > >I would try this NCL command: > > F > >BLOCK EVENT DISPATCHER OUTBOUND STREAM local_stream GLOBAL FILTER -8 > >   ((NODE, ROUTING), Address Unreachable PDU Discard) > O > And I would enter the following command, too, to get rid of the annoying UIDs  > 7 > SET EVENT DISPATCHER SINK local_sink DISPLAYUID FALSE  >    Thanks.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:42:38 GMT 9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> " Subject: Re: OpenVMS and HP Nimbus2 Message-ID: <Or7sb.8801$Z15.1559@news.cpqcorp.net>   Nimbus is the VMS strategy.   ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message 7 news:f30679fb.0311080803.75d7cfd2@posting.google.com... 5 > Anyone know about OpenVMS plans for the HP Nimbus ?  >  > ; > http://news.com.com/2100-7784_3-5104611.html?tag=nefd_top  >  > 	 > Regards  >  > FC   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Nov 2003 04:27:40 -0800. From: dieter.rossbach@gmx.de (Dieter  Ro?bach)9 Subject: Re: Oracle Migration Problem when going to ds15. = Message-ID: <e1d40caf.0311110427.112f38a3@posting.google.com>   e "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<p2Wrb.19651$Vu6.3279@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>... N > Did you copy the OS disk as well?  If so, did you run Autogen and re-boot soI > that the system recognizes the different hardware (CPU, RAM) on the new 	 > system.    Yes ...  > N > Is your TNS listener configured for a different device port on the DS15 thanK > it is on the DS10?  I know that the 15's come with a 10/100/1000 built in N > port, but I do not know if the network port identifiers are the same betweenL > the two platforms.  This might explain your  "end-of-file on communication > channel" problem.  >   5 Yes , but I think, TNS is not envolved at that stage:    Here is the startup log:  & SQL> spool ora_instance:startup_DB.log SQL> connect / as sysdba Connected to an idle instance. SQL> startup open "DB"/ ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel  SQL> Disconnected   Show system says:     M 0000043E ORA_V9010000000 LEF      4       25   0 00:00:00.00       161    164 M 00000440 ORA_LISTENER035 LEF      5      195   0 00:00:00.05      1571    674   ) It looks like a resouce problem to me ...    Regards    Dieter   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:05:57 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>* Subject: Re: OT: an example of a modern OS0 Message-ID: <3FB0DEB5.7C8B0ABE@sture.homeip.net>   Bob Koehler wrote: > W > In article <3FABC7B3.4010106@MMaz.com>, "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes:  > > David McKenzie wrote:  > > I > > Believe it or not, I kinda liked the old VT125's :-)  Something about J > > the heartiness of the keyboard, built in graphics at that time, etc... > I >    Somewhere I have a no-glare screen that fit onto the face of a VT100 J >    tube.  Every time I pick it up I find it's a lot smaller than I thinkI >    I could have found usefull.  And yes, it's too small for the VT340 I 
 >    have.  E FWIW I found the small size of the genuine VT100 uncomfortable once I G had got used to a larger screen. The definition was better than the OEM C one I had then, but along the way I had become accustomed to larger  characters.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------   Date: 11 Nov 2003 07:26:35 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>  Subject: Re: Performance problem5 Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-F739GBzGtj3h@localhost>   " On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:13:33 UTC, < koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote:  k > In article <bogea1$d9h$1@bozon2.softax.com.pl>, Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> writes:  > > Hi all,  > > M > > When I start Motif application from decterm it works fine. When the same   > > application starts from J > > CDE front panel the performance is very bad. Account is the same. The $ > > application is graphic intensive > > and memory expensive.  > >  > > What's the reason? > 	 >    CDE.  >   $ Never a truer acronym was spoken :-)   --   Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:14:06 GMT 2 From: "George Pagliarulo" <georgepag@adelphia.net>* Subject: Re: problems with ITRC patch site2 Message-ID: <217sb.8795$wY4.6242@news.cpqcorp.net>  L  Actually this isn't a problem with the ITRC. This error was in the originalL kit that was on the old site. The original kit submission info says the max.H version the kit applies to is V7.2-1. Since that is invalid for VAX, I'dC take the max version as V7.2.   I've sent this problem to the folks 3 responsible for the kit so the docs can be updated.    George Pagliarulo  ECO Release Process  OpenVMS Sustaining Engineering    L "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>/ wrote in message news:bojs31$tsh$1@online.de... " > This might be one of a series... > K >           ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/layered_products/vax/CXXE  >           01056.txt  >  > says > , >                 ECO NUMBER:      CXXE01056 >                 ----------- = >                 PRODUCT:         Compaq C++ for OpenVMS VAX  >                 --------A >                 UPDATED PRODUCT: Compaq C++ for OpenVMS VAX 5.6 " >                 ----------------( >                 APPRX BLCK SIZE: 28665" >                 ---------------- > C >      4.1  Version(s) of OpenVMS to which this kit may be applied:  > " >      OpenVMS VAX V5.5-2 - V7.2-1 > D > This is obviously wrong, since there is no 7.2-1 VAX.  What is the: > highest version of VMS on which this kit can be applied? >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:16:22 -0500 + From: Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@intel.com> ! Subject: Re: The old DEC complex. 8 Message-ID: <j2v1rv0m6mo7a1du670vajp2lt6t0bhmhu@4ax.com>  H On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:27:08 -0500, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:  M >Considering the year they were built, what was the state of the buildings in M >the 1995-1999 era ? had they undergone renovations inside, or was Digital so N >cash strapped that they were starting to look runned down ?  has the purchase+ >by Compaq and now HP changed any of this ?   I The facilities I know of were fine.  I worked in (and still do) ZKO (Spit M Brook Road, Nashua) and it has been maintained well.  HP hasn't done a lot to N it, but it is being kept up - especially the landscaping outside which is wellL cared for.  Walls have been repainted, new carpet laid in places, etc.  SomeM parts look a bit more worn than others, but not signfiicantly so. ZKO1 is now 
 23 years old.   M The only other significant site I visited from that timeframe was MRO, and it ! too seemed to be holding up well.    Steve    ------------------------------   Date: 11 Nov 2003 14:59:28 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: VAX Telemarketers!!: Message-ID: <boqtgg$1h9dbu$1@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>  ? I just had a phone call from someone who claimed my name was on @ a list they purchased that listed me (as a representative of the@ University) as "a VAX owner".  They then tried to sell me Charon? VAX (must not have studied any classical literature as at first ; I didn't know what he was selling because he mis-pronounced ; Charon.  :-).  Makes me wonder who that knows I (that's me  < personally, the University couldn't care less about VAXen or9 VMS) still have and use VAXen sold my name to some sleaze ; telemarketer.  I can only think of two people/organizations 9 that are likely to have that information and both of them ; would have gotten that information through my membership in # the Open VMS Hobbyist Program.  :-( 5 Of course, I apply the same criteria to telemarketers = that I apply to SPAM by extending the Boulder Pledge to cover 
 them as well.    bill     --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:04:54 +0000 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> - Subject: Re: VMS not mentioned by HP....again 0 Message-ID: <boqqa6$49f$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Paul Repacholi wrote: S > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes:  >  > @ >>Itanium has been available since 2001, HP-UX on Itanium ditto. >  >  >>How long do they need ?? >  > H > Andrew, how could you. Just because it has missed the year, decade andA > century of release is no reason to question its timelyness. And G > remember, if you want integrity from HP, from now on you have to tell - > them is you want a rack mount kit for it :)n >  >     1 You have to love HP how about this for Integrity.a  8 After the announcements that HP were cancelling EV79 and: that they are slipping the inclusion of any Tru64 features; into HP-UX by another year Sun announced a number of offers 7 to entice HP customers annoyed by these two issues ontor Sun's.   This is HP's response.  > "We believe our customers want a credible, trusted partner andB not one that changes its story frequently. Our customers know thatC HP is being upfront with them and welcome the frankness and honestyi- and therefore will stay with us," Dunlap saide  > Could HP's spokesman be on an exchange program from a far away galaxy ?  . Still very very amusing if rather predictable.     regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:28:26 -0500o+ From: "Martin O'Connor" <moconnor@dvfs.com>t$ Subject: Re: VMS Spiffy Text Editors: Message-ID: <boqo5r$1hkhbo$1@ID-118202.news.uni-berlin.de>  ; "Jack Trachtman" <Jack.Trachtman@vmmc.org> wrote in message06 news:69d784c4.0311101517.7fc714a@posting.google.com...< : Can anyone point me to any company making a word-processor? : similar to the old WordPerfect that works under VMS?  Thanks.    WordPerfect also runs on VMS   Martyo   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.626 ************************