1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 14 Nov 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 632       Contents: Re: Alpha page size  Re: Alpha page size = Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.3-1 and DECamds V7.3-2 = Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.3-1 and DECamds V7.3-2 $ Re: Backups and shadowed system disk DLT Duplicator$ Dqdriver Version Diff. V7.3 / V7.3-1 Re: Erasing disks: conclusion  Re: Erasing disks: conclusion , Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app, Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app Re: IA64 TPC results Re: IA64 TPC results InfoServer and DLT VS  Re: InfoServer and DLT VS F Re: New CDRTOOLS (CDRECORD, MKISOFS (incl. UDF/DVD), CDDA2WAV, CDREAD)F Re: New CDRTOOLS (CDRECORD, MKISOFS (incl. UDF/DVD), CDDA2WAV, CDREAD)F Re: New CDRTOOLS (CDRECORD, MKISOFS (incl. UDF/DVD), CDDA2WAV, CDREAD)& Re: Only hope for Intel is alpha chip?& Re: Only hope for Intel is alpha chip? Outlook mime types and encoding # Re: Outlook mime types and encoding # Re: Outlook mime types and encoding # Re: Outlook mime types and encoding ; Re: Request " ''BOLD' Error in process BDUGKSH  ''NORMAL' "  smtp internet headers  Re: smtp internet headers   Re: VMS Defragmentation Software  Re: VMS Defragmentation Software  Re: VMS Defragmentation Software  Re: VMS Defragmentation Software Re: VMS Perl Question re LF $ Re: VMS- submit queue only runs once$ Re: VMS- submit queue only runs once$ Re: VMS- submit queue only runs once$ Re: VMS- submit queue only runs once Web VT Emulation Re: Web VT Emulation$ Re: What is "TCPIP Client for VMS" ?$ Re: What is "TCPIP Client for VMS" ?+ Re: [OpenVMS VAX V7.3] OPC$LOGFILE_ENABLE ?  [OT] p*o*e*t*s* of the day  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:59:51 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)  Subject: Re: Alpha page size3 Message-ID: <8arlCqEq9ktN@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <13NOV200318414157@nospam.gerg.tamu.edu>, carl@nospam.gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes: ? > "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> writes... K > }Yes.  There were plans for 64kb pages.  And it is quite likely that this L > }will happen on IA64, and perhaps on EV7 systems (dunno).  So please don'tN > }hardwire page size knowledge - use the standard interfaces to get the size. > C > Didn't the Cray systems that used the Alpha use large page sizes?   D    IIRC, no.  I think they were all EV4 which were 8K only.  In factF    I think all the Alpha actually produced were hard-wired to 8K, with=    the possible exception of not-yet-shipping EV7 generation.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:20:02 GMT 9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com>  Subject: Re: Alpha page size1 Message-ID: <Co6tb.9014$bq.2831@news.cpqcorp.net>   L Dunno - not really a Cray expert.  But the architecture clearly provides forI large page sizes.  As I said, the easy way to cheat is to use Granularity H Hints - which relieves pressure on the TLB - which is most of the battle anyway.     H "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:8arlCqEq9ktN@eisner.encompasserve.org... 6 > In article <13NOV200318414157@nospam.gerg.tamu.edu>,0 carl@nospam.gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes:A > > "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> writes... H > > }Yes.  There were plans for 64kb pages.  And it is quite likely that thisH > > }will happen on IA64, and perhaps on EV7 systems (dunno).  So please don't J > > }hardwire page size knowledge - use the standard interfaces to get the size.  > > E > > Didn't the Cray systems that used the Alpha use large page sizes?  > F >    IIRC, no.  I think they were all EV4 which were 8K only.  In factH >    I think all the Alpha actually produced were hard-wired to 8K, with? >    the possible exception of not-yet-shipping EV7 generation.  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:35:32 +0100 : From: Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.de>F Subject: Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.3-1 and DECamds V7.3-2/ Message-ID: <bp27k1$5o72@doiweb4.volkswagen.de>    Chris Moore wrote:M > We were promised an extension to this product at least 2, maybe 3 years ago M > that would permit it to be run on a switched and routed network without the J > "proprietary protocol" requirement.  Since the network boys won't enableN > forwarding of these "unrecognized" packets, we have had to forego using thisG > very valuable tool across our multiple-site, 25+ system installation.  > N > A multi-layer client-server approach was suggested, with only TCP/IP traffic0 > going back and forth to the remote PC clients. > N > We check out each new release for some mention of this as a possibility, butI > once again, apparently not.  (and yet our call to HP on this remains in " > "monitor" status.........<sigh>) > L > Getting harder and harder to beat back the Windows and Unix hordes without > some arrows in the quiver....  >  >  >  > = > "Barry Kierstein" <Barry.Kierstein@HP.Com> wrote in message . > news:HSpsb.8855$FV5.1538@news.cpqcorp.net... > E >>The Availability Manager team is pleased to announce the release of I >>Availability Manager V2.3-1 and DECamds V7.3-2.  Both of these versions 9 >>will support data collection on OpenVMS V6.2 to V7.3-2.  >>L >>In addition, the Availability Manager has a few enhancements and bugfixes: >>E >>o Sorting by columns added to Node Summary and Single Disk displays J >>o A few changes to synchronize AM cluster display with the SCACP utility >>  on OpenVMS V7.3-2 C >>o Correction of memory calculations needed to run AM.  The memory D >>  calculations were too low for monitoring moderately-sized sites.C >>o A node-specific customization file AMDS$LOGICALS_<nodename>.COM E >>  will now be executed if found by the AMDS$STARTUP.COM file.  This A >>  allows for node-specific customizations in a cluster setting. C >>o Support for Dynamic Volume Expansion in OpenVMS V7.3-2.  In the G >>  disk tab, two new fields are displayed:  Volume Size & Volume Limit  >>E >>Both products are available on the web off of the OpenVMS homepage.  >> >>Barry Kierstein  >>Availability Manager team  >> >> >  >  > B I second that, the ability run control 'remote' systems is needed!   --    + mit freundlichen Gren | with best regards     Karl Rohwedder		iT-Ingenieurteam$ Ellernbruch 11		D-38112 Braunschweig  E mailto:it-ingteam(at)t-online.de | mailto:rohwedder(at)decus.decus.de - mailto:extern.karl.rohwedder(at)volkswagen.de    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:54:43 +0100 ) From: Bart Zorn <B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl> F Subject: Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.3-1 and DECamds V7.3-26 Message-ID: <3fb4d094$0$58706$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>  B True, but adding a routable network layer to Availability Manager E defeats one very specific function of AM: the ability to communicate  E with an OpenVMS system which is otherwise unresponsive. For this you  I need a very simple network layer which is not dependant on ACP processes   or the like.  B On the site where I currently work, we have an Alphaserver in the H datacenter which runs the AMDS console and which puts its display on my G DS10 workstation in the office building some 10 km from the datacenter.   	 Bart Zorn    Karl Rohwedder wrote:  > Chris Moore wrote: > E >> We were promised an extension to this product at least 2, maybe 3   >> years agoC >> that would permit it to be run on a switched and routed network   >> without theK >> "proprietary protocol" requirement.  Since the network boys won't enable E >> forwarding of these "unrecognized" packets, we have had to forego  
 >> using this H >> very valuable tool across our multiple-site, 25+ system installation. >>H >> A multi-layer client-server approach was suggested, with only TCP/IP 
 >> traffic1 >> going back and forth to the remote PC clients.  >>? >> We check out each new release for some mention of this as a   >> possibility, but J >> once again, apparently not.  (and yet our call to HP on this remains in# >> "monitor" status.........<sigh>)  >>F >> Getting harder and harder to beat back the Windows and Unix hordes 
 >> without  >> some arrows in the quiver.... >> >> >> >>> >> "Barry Kierstein" <Barry.Kierstein@HP.Com> wrote in message/ >> news:HSpsb.8855$FV5.1538@news.cpqcorp.net...  >>G >>> The Availability Manager team is pleased to announce the release of K >>> Availability Manager V2.3-1 and DECamds V7.3-2.  Both of these versions ; >>> will support data collection on OpenVMS V6.2 to V7.3-2.  >>> E >>> In addition, the Availability Manager has a few enhancements and  
 >>> bugfixes:  >>> G >>> o Sorting by columns added to Node Summary and Single Disk displays L >>> o A few changes to synchronize AM cluster display with the SCACP utility >>>  on OpenVMS V7.3-2E >>> o Correction of memory calculations needed to run AM.  The memory E >>>  calculations were too low for monitoring moderately-sized sites. E >>> o A node-specific customization file AMDS$LOGICALS_<nodename>.COM F >>>  will now be executed if found by the AMDS$STARTUP.COM file.  ThisB >>>  allows for node-specific customizations in a cluster setting.E >>> o Support for Dynamic Volume Expansion in OpenVMS V7.3-2.  In the H >>>  disk tab, two new fields are displayed:  Volume Size & Volume Limit >>> G >>> Both products are available on the web off of the OpenVMS homepage.  >>>  >>> Barry Kierstein  >>> Availability Manager team  >>>  >>>  >> >> >>D > I second that, the ability run control 'remote' systems is needed! >    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 08:58:57 -08007 From: jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net (Daryl Jones) - Subject: Re: Backups and shadowed system disk = Message-ID: <8a646952.0311140858.4ba3b6a6@posting.google.com>   m hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) wrote in message news:<5pxsb.8911$XD6.1344@news.cpqcorp.net>... 7 > In article <3fb29367$0$13304$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,  & > Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes: > > > >You cannot dismount the system disk where you booted from.  >  > Correct.  Don't even try.  > F > >What you should do, on the other hand, is to break the shadow set, E > >do a backup/image of the shadow disk, then rebuild the shadow set.  > A > Do everything you can to ensure that there is NO disk activity  F > when you break the shadow set.  The shadowing software should ensureA > that all file are intact, but if there is activity that effects @ > multiple files they can be inconsistent on the removed volume.? > The risk of that is low, but the effect could be considerable " > when you need to use the backup.  	 Dear Sir:   F One more thing to do is to make the system disk a read-only disk. This/ makes the split of the system disk much easier.   
 Good Luck, Daryl Jones    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:21:26 GMT * From: Jack Patteeuw <Jack.Patteeuw@nospam> Subject: DLT Duplicator ? Message-ID: <WU2tb.125448$sd5.15787864@twister.columbus.rr.com>    New Management, New Ideas   H Does anyone use a "offline" DLT tape duplicator specifically for making E "offsite copies" of their backups ?  If so what brand ?  Do you like  1 this product ?  Would you recommend this product?   6 Amyone using the Save Set Manager for this ?  Comments   jp   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 14:37:58 +0100C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) - Subject: Dqdriver Version Diff. V7.3 / V7.3-1 - Message-ID: <3fb4dab6$1@news.uni-konstanz.de>    Hi,   ? I just saw that there is a driver update for OpenVMS/Alpha 7.3. < I'm not very happy about the dqdriver-version, because this < version (X-26A1) seems to be older than for V7.3-1 (X-35A3).# Why is V7.3 and V7.3-1 out of sync?    eberhard   excerpt from the text:  D ====================================================================      ****************************        ECO SUMMARY INFORMATION      ****************************  3     Kit Name: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS73_DRIVER-V0400--4.PCSI &     Kit Applies To: OpenVMS ALPHA V7.3   [...]   .       o  [SYS$LDR]SYS$DQDRIVER.EXE (new image)  )          Image Identification Information   #          image name: "SYS$DQDRIVER" -          image file identification:  "X-26A1" <          image file build identification:  "X9UH-0060010012"0          link date/time:  2-JUL-2003 22:52:09.94)          linker identification:  "A11-50" D ====================================================================  2              ECO NUMBER:     VMS731_DQDRIVER-V0100B              PRODUCT:        OpenVMS Alpha OPERATING SYSTEM V7.3-1   [...]     .       o  [SYS$LDR]SYS$DQDRIVER.EXE (new image)
           )          Image Identification Information 
           #          image name: "SYS$DQDRIVER" -          image file identification:  "X-35A3" <          image file build identification:  "X9TD-0060030012"0          link date/time: 20-AUG-2003 16:20:53.32)          linker identification:  "A11-50" D ====================================================================   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:15:22 +0000 @ From: Ashley Shepherd <ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net>& Subject: Re: Erasing disks: conclusion8 Message-ID: <qkd9rvs2ktq9pc8otk1t493vtqdl50ru5l@4ax.com>   Hi,   D I've come into this a bit late, but...... You may find the following link interesting  , http://www.hipaadvisory.com/tech/disksan.htm  F There are also a number of software packages that will overwrite disksF with random patterns.  Certain ones of these have been approved by the UK and US governments.  F One other way is to take the disk and install it on a system running aB different operating system (from VMS to Windows for example), thenD initialise it and exercise it with a destructive diagnostic utility.  C For me, there is only one real question, "Do you want to sell these & disks in order to recover some money"?  D If the answer is yes, and the data is sensitive corporate data, thenB using a piece of software is perfectly adequate (if you select the ones with government approval).   F If the answer is no, then physical destruction will always be the bestC way to go.  Do an erase/init, take the disk out, smash it to pieces > with a sledgehammer and then cook the fragments at 800 degressE centigrade for about 10 minutes.  That's the only way to guarantee no  one will get your data back.  C Incidently, I work as an expert in the UK legal system occasionally A and I have several pieces of software that recovers data.  I also E purchase a large number of disk drives from eBay (cheaper than buying D new when I only need them for the odd case) and in every case, I hadF been able to recover data from these disks, including data relating toD corporate mergers, corporate databases, confidential memos etc. etc.* so beware when disposing of disks.........   Ashley      5 On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:01:13 -0600, "Grealy, Patrick"   <PGrealy@sph.uth.tmc.edu> wrote:   >Hi, >Thanks to the many who offered suggestions. In particular R. Klute's link to the Data Recovery Labs and Hoff's comments and pointer to the FAQ. My initial inclination to go the ANALYZE/MEDIA/EXERCISE route was not feasible as these are MSCP served SCSI and that command fails. Also, my good intentions to recycle older SCSI drives seems to be less worthy if there is little demand for these. Finally, given that the data sensitivity in question relates to HIPPA compliance, the risk/reward factor that Hoff ment ions is very significant. So, the suggestions of physical destruction, including the possible use of firearms, which I first passed over as amusing are now considered as the most reasonable alternatives.  >Thanks, >Pat G.   6 >***************************************************** >Ashley Shepherd  3 >email to  ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net 6 >*****************************************************   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:51:18 GMT 4 From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk>& Subject: Re: Erasing disks: conclusion/ Message-ID: <3FB4F7F8.9ECB94E@blueyonder.co.uk>    Ashley Shepherd wrote: >     > E > Incidently, I work as an expert in the UK legal system occasionally C > and I have several pieces of software that recovers data.  I also G > purchase a large number of disk drives from eBay (cheaper than buying F > new when I only need them for the odd case) and in every case, I hadH > been able to recover data from these disks, including data relating toF > corporate mergers, corporate databases, confidential memos etc. etc., > so beware when disposing of disks......... >  >   K So, this thread now begs the question, "Do you allow field service to take  , away a faulty disk that they have replaced?"     --   tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:37 +0100 ? From: Roland Mainz <roland.mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> 5 Subject: Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app = Message-ID: <3FB47165.574E524A@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de>    JF Mezei wrote:  >  > Robert Trawinski wrote: H > > New version of DECwindows (1.3) support Xprint extension. I've neverF > > used in my work this extension but maybe it is solution for you. ID > > suppose that Xprint software can use all fonts known to Xserver. > P > Can Xprint be added to 1.2 ? (that is where VMS is stuck because "they" aren't8 > allowed to upgrade VAX-VMS to match that of Alpha VMS. > P > If one want to write VMS software, it must abide by lowest common denominator.  E Which part of Xprint do you want to run on 1.2 ? The Xprint client or  the Xprint server ?    ----   Bye, Roland   --     __ .  . __8  (o.\ \/ /.o) Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de<   \__\/\/__/  MPEG specialist, C&&JAVA&&Sun&&Unix programmer5   /O /==\ O\  TEL +49 2426 901568 FAX +49 2426 901569 
  (;O/ \/ \O;)    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:24:07 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>5 Subject: Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app ) Message-ID: <3FB482F2.2EC630C9@istop.com>    Roland Mainz wrote: C > Or simply take a look at http://xprint.mozdev.org/ (which hosts a 6 > mailinglist for Xprint-specific questions... :) ...    Thanks for the pointer.   L The problem is that VMS lacks the basic standard postscript printer support.F By that, I mean no support for PPD files, nor a standard directory forM postscript fonts and an API to access the PPD files and get list of available I printer fonts, possibly with a mapping to Xwindows fonts. It lacks such a D basic stuff as finding out what printer type is attached to a queue.  K Ideally, a print widget would give you a list of print queues. Whenever you K choose a queue associated to a postscript printer, it would then modify the G dialogue to include printer specidic options (from parsing the PPD file  associated with that printer).  H That widget would also return to your application the %%beginSetup data,H generated from all the options you have selected in the printer-specificI dialogue, and your application would then simply include that data in its L output. The widget would then pass a pointer to some structure that could beK fed to $sndjbc that woudl include all the VMS queue options selected in the M dialogue. Such a widget would also return an array of fonts already loaded in 
 the printer.    H The application would then know which fonts need to be embedded into theQ output, and VMS would make it easy to copy such fonts into the postscript output.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:10:36 GMT 9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com>  Subject: Re: IA64 TPC results 1 Message-ID: <Mf6tb.9011$So.5937@news.cpqcorp.net>   H Sure.  Lets take a concrete example I've already used - the IOTLB.  ThisJ happens to be a feature found on the HP boxes.  We know it's there becauseL it is enumerated in the ACPI namespace, and found under a HP identifier, andJ as we drill down we discover which programming interface.  If we were on aL unknown "Brand I" box, with some other type of IOTLB, we would find it - butF we wouldn't know what it was or how to program it.  On a vanilla IntelL reference box we wouldn't find anything.  The low-level OS would provide theI abstraction for the consumers so that *they* don't know the details - but 
 the OS would.   J At the same time, firmware provides abstractions that also protect us fromK needing knowledge about hardware specifics.  On Alpha for instance, we know E explicitly about each core logic implementation - and we have to load L explicit support for it.  On Itanium, the firmware programs it, and providesF abstractions that allow OS interactions.  We *could* drill down and doH something explicitly - and some OS's will - to for instance optimize the; settings the firmware makes for how the OS wants to use it.   F None of this *ever* reaches the level of your application.  Because inF general, the OS's provide abstractions for the application.  Say an OSK exposes things about NUMA - it's unlikely that the OS would make the choice H to expose the raw hardware interface - more likely they implement system& calls that abstract the raw interface.  L Core logic implementation details pretty much never make it into compilers -K it's just too hard to provide a language abstraction other than mapping the F hardware and using inline asm.  The DDX's on Alpha map the HW and talkL directly to it - this exposes the server to the knowledge of - for example -I how IO space works on a specific platform and possibly the processor ISA. I EV4 vs EV5 vs EV6 for example.  This code is explicitly made non-portable  for performance reasons.  L You can find examples of this on pretty much any OS, and pretty much any CPU
 architecture.   J If there was no reason or need for companies to build core logic chipsets,. we would have reached the stage where the DellK slap-it-together-off-the-shelf model has finally driven the commodity model K to it's conclusion.  At that point everything will be Intel compatable, and  run Windows.    7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:3FB3E878.70F3AA77@istop.com...  > Fred Kleinsorge wrote:J > > Compilers know *nothing* about core logic chips.  Come on.  Core logic chips H > > glue memory and IO to the CPU.  Low level OS and firmware code knows about L > > core logic chips where it is exposed and interesting.  It is transparent to > > the application. > K > Based on the above, it is correct to state then that VMS itself will want  to< > take advantage of certain proprietary bits in HP systems ? > H > It is correct to state that should some other IA64 vendor develop someK > proprietary chps that are better than HP's, the VMS engineers will not be J > producing a version of VMS that makes use of those different proprietary chips  > at the low level ?   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:18:57 GMT 9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com>  Subject: Re: IA64 TPC results 1 Message-ID: <Bn6tb.9013$gt.7987@news.cpqcorp.net>   L IA32 is "industry standard" because it's ubiquitous.  Microsoft applicationsK can be pretty much shrink wrapped and run on almost any IA32 system.  There K is a huge amount of platform specific black magic that goes on to make that F happen - from BIOS code, to ACPI code, to device drivers, to HAL code.  F All of this is pretty much transparent to application code, and users.  J IA64 is intended to be the 64-bit "industry standard".  You can argue thatI the cart is before the horse - that it hasn't become the defacto ISA used @ across a wide variety of vendors.  Of course, neither has AMD64.  F But this has nothing to do with core logic chipsets.  In the commodityH space, companies want low cost at all cost - investing in core logic forL products with $500 price tags and 6 month lifespans is not cost effective inG general (unless there is a bhuge breakthrough in cost).  But if you are H designing servers that will run from a few thousand dollars and a singleJ CPU, to servers that have hundreds of CPU's, terabytes of memory, and costF millions of dollars - and that customers may well use and upgrade overH timespane from 5 to 20 years -- then they are worth the investment - andI they help give you the reason to buy an HP box instead of a Dell box (for 	 example).     7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:3FB3F0DE.2A9AF0F9@istop.com...  > Fred Kleinsorge wrote:L > > I can show you specialized IA32 core logic chipsets that require specialL > > low-level logic to allow an OS to operate - does that somehow invalidate the  > > IA32 architecture? >  > H > It depends. If the vast majority of 8086s are true "industry standard" withG > just a few instances of specialized proprietary 8086 systems, then it  doesn't + > invalidate the 8086 as industry standard.  > B > But if the vast majroity of IA64 systems are used in proprietaryJ > implementations,  then it does invalidate the "industry standard" claims from > Carly and company.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:01:42 GMT 8 From: "Johan Nilsson" <johan.nilsson@---.esrange.ssc.se> Subject: InfoServer and DLT VS@ Message-ID: <c7669f6d49f456ceb838eeb45c88c791@news.teranews.com>   Hi,   A did anyone here manage to setup a DLT VS (more specifically, a HP 9 StorageWorks VS 40/80) for usage with an InfoServer 1000?   L I've made some feeble attempts, but the InfoServer can't even recognise thatI there's a device connected. Whenever I connect the device and try to boot E the infoserver it takes an awful lot of time, after which the message K ~'failed to restore service SHARED_TAPE for TP4' appears (we used to have a D DAT tape attached to the server with SCSI id 4, which the DLT is now
 assigned to).   A The DLT is an LVD device, but that shouldn't really be a problem.   
 Help, anyone?    // Johan   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:14:58 -0600 / From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> " Subject: Re: InfoServer and DLT VS8 Message-ID: <id6arvketvna3u5a069avdrgunnu9ca08j@4ax.com>  V You might need to set a jumper to force single-ended mode, as not all drives negotiate down properly.  Y Note that you cannot possibly stream a DLT VS tape drive through an Infoserver.  You will V get extraordinarily slow throughput, and the drive will beat itself to death stopping,V rewinding and starting again.  You might hang this off of a host system and use rmt or
 something.   Clay  T On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:01:42 GMT, "Johan Nilsson" <johan.nilsson@---.esrange.ssc.se> wrote:   >Hi, > B >did anyone here manage to setup a DLT VS (more specifically, a HP: >StorageWorks VS 40/80) for usage with an InfoServer 1000? > M >I've made some feeble attempts, but the InfoServer can't even recognise that J >there's a device connected. Whenever I connect the device and try to bootF >the infoserver it takes an awful lot of time, after which the messageL >~'failed to restore service SHARED_TAPE for TP4' appears (we used to have aE >DAT tape attached to the server with SCSI id 4, which the DLT is now  >assigned to). > B >The DLT is an LVD device, but that shouldn't really be a problem. >  >Help, anyone? > 	 >// Johan  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:19:20 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>O Subject: Re: New CDRTOOLS (CDRECORD, MKISOFS (incl. UDF/DVD), CDDA2WAV, CDREAD) 2 Message-ID: <bp1vt6$4vi$1@news4.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann wrote: > Konstanz, 13.Nov.2003  >  > Hi,  > B > I have managed to get more ports of the actual cdrtools package: > 0 > cdrecord Version 2.01A19: CD Recording program6 > mkisofs  Version 2.01a17: ISO/UDF-filesystem Creator0 > readcd   Version 2.01a17: Raw CD Reader/Writer* > cdda2wav Version ?      : CD Rip Program > K > Especially MKISOFS is be of interest because of the new VideoDVD support. N > BTW CDRECORD still only handles CD-R(W). dvdrecord is an illegal hack, so myK > DVDwrite program is the OpenVMS program for DVD burning (PLUS/MINUS/RAM).  > M > I hope the Mplayer for OpenVMS will be out soon to get a complete DVD video 
 > package. >  > You'll find the program here:  > H > ftp://v36.chemie.uni-konstanz.de/cdrecord_vms/cdrtools_2_01a19_vms.zip > C > To generate the programs from the source execute "@BUILD_ALL.COM" $ > in the [.CDRTOOLS-2_01] directory. > P I got the kit, and used the build procedure. However I got I got quite a lot of  this kind of warnings;  2 %LINK-W-MULDEF, symbol DECC$TFCVT multiply definedL          in module DECC$SHR_EV56 file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]DECC$SHR_EV56.EXE;1   Should I be worried ?    Regards, Dirk   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 09:30:32 +0100C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) O Subject: Re: New CDRTOOLS (CDRECORD, MKISOFS (incl. UDF/DVD), CDDA2WAV, CDREAD) - Message-ID: <3fb492a8$1@news.uni-konstanz.de>   D In article <BRNsb.8950$yi7.4165@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Fred Kleinsorge") <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> writes: & >> dvdrecord is an illegal hack, so my2 >> DVDwrite program is the OpenVMS program for DVD >> burning(PLUS/MINUS/RAM).  > A >Does this mean it can write DVD+R/+RW?  Is it free (OpenSource)?  >  > I >"Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann" <vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de> wrote in B >message news:00A28D8C.8AEA8B24.18@CHCLU.CHEMIE.UNI-KONSTANZ.DE...   snip...   I >> BTW CDRECORD still only handles CD-R(W). dvdrecord is an illegal hack,  >so my: >> DVDwrite program is the OpenVMS program for DVD burning >(PLUS/MINUS/RAM).  D DVDwrite is a commercial product. The price is 150 Euro for a single machine license.   Eberhard   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 09:35:29 +0100C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) O Subject: Re: New CDRTOOLS (CDRECORD, MKISOFS (incl. UDF/DVD), CDDA2WAV, CDREAD) - Message-ID: <3fb493d1$1@news.uni-konstanz.de>   < In article <bp1vt6$4vi$1@news4.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes:  >Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann wrote:  >> Konstanz, 13.Nov.2003 >>   >> Hi, >>  C >> I have managed to get more ports of the actual cdrtools package:  >>  1 >> cdrecord Version 2.01A19: CD Recording program 7 >> mkisofs  Version 2.01a17: ISO/UDF-filesystem Creator 1 >> readcd   Version 2.01a17: Raw CD Reader/Writer + >> cdda2wav Version ?      : CD Rip Program  >>  C >> Especially MKISOFS is be of interest because of the new VideoDVD 	 >support. I >> BTW CDRECORD still only handles CD-R(W). dvdrecord is an illegal hack,  >so my: >> DVDwrite program is the OpenVMS program for DVD burning >(PLUS/MINUS/RAM). >>  H >> I hope the Mplayer for OpenVMS will be out soon to get a complete DVD >video >> package.  >>    >> You'll find the program here: >>  I >> ftp://v36.chemie.uni-konstanz.de/cdrecord_vms/cdrtools_2_01a19_vms.zip  >>  D >> To generate the programs from the source execute "@BUILD_ALL.COM"% >> in the [.CDRTOOLS-2_01] directory.  >>  I >I got the kit, and used the build procedure. However I got I got quite a  >lot of  >this kind of warnings;  > 3 >%LINK-W-MULDEF, symbol DECC$TFCVT multiply defined & >         in module DECC$SHR_EV56 file' >SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]DECC$SHR_EV56.EXE;1  >  >Should I be worried ? > 	 >Regards,  >Dirk  >  >   J Don't worry! It's possible to get rid off these messages. The old cdrecord8 link command had the same message without any influence.   eberhard   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:56:43 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) / Subject: Re: Only hope for Intel is alpha chip? 3 Message-ID: <t9n98eLTXbW0@eisner.encompasserve.org>   S In article <bp130m$gmr$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes:  > N > And since Intel stuff is throw-away material, you will not find 15 year old ) > Intel boxes faithfully doing their job.   E    Guess again.  We have a few 80286 still faithfully doing there job     and several 80386.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:21:07 GMT 3 From: wallacethinmintr@eircom.net (Russell Wallace) / Subject: Re: Only hope for Intel is alpha chip? 0 Message-ID: <3fb4d65b.138314069@news.eircom.net>  , On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:07:15 -0500, JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:  N >Considering that a company such as AMD exists because they were able to cloneL >Intel's 8086 processors, I don't understand why Intel would have to pay AMDM >for rights to develop a 64 bit 8086 that would , by pure coincidence, happenz) >to be compatible with AMD's 64 bit 8086.3  B As I understand it, they wouldn't; IIRC, AMD said awhile back thatA Intel were welcome to produce an AMD64 compatible chip. I imaginetF what's holding them back is that they want to wait as long as possibleC to give Itanium the chance to get established in its high-end nichen first.   -- o "Sore wa himitsu desu."e To reply by email, remover the small snack from address.n! http://www.esatclear.ie/~rwallacer   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:06:16 -0500,* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>( Subject: Outlook mime types and encoding) Message-ID: <3FB49ADC.9FA29846@istop.com>D  G I am trying to help a correspondant whose technical support seems to bepL clueless (windows weenies). Sorry if this isn't directly related to VMS, butQ since the messages I get on VMS are corrupted, I guess there is some validity :-)a  H She sends me a PDF document from Outlook on Windows XP (large governmentM department). The document is sent with application/octet-sream mime type, andt. quoted-printable encoding (instead of base64).  K Seems to me that somewhere, some configuration must be made to tell OutlookoT that .PDF documents should be sent as application/pdf with a binary/base64 encoding.  J Can anyone provide me some simple directives to give their tech support soJ he/she could find his/her way in Outlook and add/correct the PDF file type	 support ?   N I have gone to other forums, but it invariably turns into a debate about cr-lfH and they don't understand that quoted-printable is not "safe" across all computer platforms.a   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:23:22 GMT.5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger)g, Subject: Re: Outlook mime types and encodingL Message-ID: <rdeininger-1411030624180001@user-uinj4jj.dialup.mindspring.com>  2 In article <3FB49ADC.9FA29846@istop.com>, JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:  H >I am trying to help a correspondant whose technical support seems to beM >clueless (windows weenies). Sorry if this isn't directly related to VMS, butdE >since the messages I get on VMS are corrupted, I guess there is someg validity :-) > I >She sends me a PDF document from Outlook on Windows XP (large governmentIN >department). The document is sent with application/octet-sream mime type, and/ >quoted-printable encoding (instead of base64).K >iL >Seems to me that somewhere, some configuration must be made to tell Outlook= >that .PDF documents should be sent as application/pdf with a  binary/base64 encoding.m >aK >Can anyone provide me some simple directives to give their tech support sobK >he/she could find his/her way in Outlook and add/correct the PDF file typee
 >support ?  E If you are seeking this sort of incantation for Outhouse, you need toa( offer a reward of at least 100 Quatloos.  H Alas, experience proves 100 Quatloos is not always enough motivation for* someone to provide the needed incantation.  L The only Outhouse incantation I know personally are ones that make it crash.   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:57:15 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org, Subject: Re: Outlook mime types and encoding3 Message-ID: <c1iQja121Ymm@eisner.encompasserve.org>4  V In article <3FB49ADC.9FA29846@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes:I > I am trying to help a correspondant whose technical support seems to besN > clueless (windows weenies). Sorry if this isn't directly related to VMS, butS > since the messages I get on VMS are corrupted, I guess there is some validity :-)  > J > She sends me a PDF document from Outlook on Windows XP (large governmentO > department). The document is sent with application/octet-sream mime type, ande0 > quoted-printable encoding (instead of base64). > M > Seems to me that somewhere, some configuration must be made to tell OutlookeV > that .PDF documents should be sent as application/pdf with a binary/base64 encoding.  C I would expect it to be an Exchange SMTP MTA setting rather than an: Outlook client setting.x  G Using Outlook and Exchange 2000 and sending mail to VMS just now I got:   ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AAB5.205D46F2r' Content-Type: application/octet-stream;r         name="d130.pdf"t! Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64g Content-Description: d130.pdfs  Content-Disposition: attachment;  I Looks good to me.  I no longer have an Exchange 5.5 mailbox to test from.   3 Please tell me you don't really want someone to use   "  Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary  G As I recall, that encoding bends RFC 821 by requiring an assurance thatoE all participating MTA's support >1000 character line lengths.  That'sn= likely to be worse than quoted-printable, compatibility-wise.t   	John Briggs   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:53:52 GMTo# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>i, Subject: Re: Outlook mime types and encodingL Message-ID: <Q75tb.61163$Rah1.41470@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   JF Mezei wrote:>F > I am trying to help a correspondant whose technical support seems to > beE > clueless (windows weenies). Sorry if this isn't directly related toi
 > VMS, butF > since the messages I get on VMS are corrupted, I guess there is some > validity :-) > ? > She sends me a PDF document from Outlook on Windows XP (larged3 > government department). The document is sent with B > application/octet-sream mime type, and quoted-printable encoding > (instead of base64). >oE > Seems to me that somewhere, some configuration must be made to tellc	 > Outlookr> > that .PDF documents should be sent as application/pdf with a > binary/base64 encoding.D >OA > Can anyone provide me some simple directives to give their techD > support soG > he/she could find his/her way in Outlook and add/correct the PDF filet > type > support ?o >yD > I have gone to other forums, but it invariably turns into a debate
 > about cr-lfdF > and they don't understand that quoted-printable is not "safe" across > alle > computer platforms.     J It may be not Outlook specific but perhaps a Microsoft Exchange issue (I'mE guessing that they are probably using Exchange as their SMTP server).!  G The only things I can suggest is to search the MS Knowledgebase (and or	L Google) for quoted-printable & Exchange and see if anything interesting pops# up. Is there an Exchange newsgroup?c   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:45:34 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)0D Subject: Re: Request " ''BOLD' Error in process BDUGKSH  ''NORMAL' "3 Message-ID: <W$iOLfiIziDX@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  ] In article <bp180g$570$1@newslocal.mitre.org>, lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) writes:  > koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes in article <3vFFBoUQw5N$@eisner.encompasserve.org> dated 13 Nov 2003 16:04:22 -0600:io >>In article <ddf392ea.0311131305.595344d3@posting.google.com>, contracer11@uol.com.br (Shiva MahaDeva) writes:nC >>> How could I put bold characters in request command, like this :a >>> ; >>> Request " ''BOLD' Error in process BDUGKSH  ''NORMAL' "  > 7 >>   It depends on what kind of terminal it's going to.  > F > I'd be surprised if the OS let through any unprintable characters.  F > Especially a command intended to send a message from an unprivilegedE > user to a privileged one.  It would open the door to deception and o > more.o  D    I would expect VMS may filter escape characters just like it does:    for MAIL and for SHOW SYSTEM, and for the same reasons.  >    Some terminals, however, pre-date the ASCII escape sequenceG    conventions and use sequences delimited by characters that I know a m9    broadcast will send instead of using escape sequences.T   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 08:33:36 -0800( From: mpope@bristol.ca (Mark-Simon Pope) Subject: smtp internet headers= Message-ID: <9b791394.0311140833.7950c932@posting.google.com>r   Alpha VMS 7.2-1   F How can I view the headers of a particular e-mail?  I appears that the@ Received from and By information is stripped from incoming mail.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:58:55 +0100.) From: Bart Zorn <B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl>:" Subject: Re: smtp internet headers6 Message-ID: <3fb509cf$0$58700$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>  H Are you using VMS MAIL to read your messages? In that case you see only F the headers that VMS mail uses. The SMTP headers are part of the body 8 and you should see them as soon as you open the message.  B If you are using an other program to read mail, it depends on the  capabilities of that program.S   HTH,  	 Bart Zornk   Mark-Simon Pope wrote: > Alpha VMS 7.2-1e > H > How can I view the headers of a particular e-mail?  I appears that theB > Received from and By information is stripped from incoming mail.   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:28:54 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>) Subject: Re: VMS Defragmentation Software 5 Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-dbuWhdld6roy@localhost>w  1 On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:05:51 UTC, Nathan Hartley n* <nathan@removethis.ilothlorien.com> wrote:  C > Anyone have an opinion on VMS open-file defragmentation software?a > K > I am currently looking at Raxco's Performance Suite and Executive's Disk b	 > Keeper.  > 	 > Thanks,e >  > Nathan >   F We had trouble with Disk Keeper years ago. It used to be left running F concurrentlty with normal work and there were a couple of applicationsF that it came into conflict with. The system-management team eventuallyF started it in batch mode each night. Most of the time this was ok but E every now and again it was still running when something else started @E running the following morning and we were in the mire again. ISTR it r@ had some conflict with the MTI disk controller (HS? equivalent).  D I believe we've dropped it now. I"ve never seen any point in having C defragmentation going on while a system is working with a 'normal' eF load. Consider the affects the of purging at the end of the day. That F can quite easily involve a few hundred thousand blocks or more (I mustB have purged getting on for a milliom this week alone). Having the F defragmenter shuffle all those to-be-deleted blocks around seems a bit of a waste.s  F Obviously it does depend on your environment. We develope s/w so we do% have heavy create/test/delete cycles.t   -- u Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:52:33 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)u) Subject: Re: VMS Defragmentation Softwarei3 Message-ID: <CAcWDUCtnbNe@eisner.encompasserve.org>   S In article <3FB468F5.10708@MMaz.com>, "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes:-  H > Yes, if expect that if you recall, Digital years back would state how G > dangerous on-line defraging was, so their only 'approved' method was D > backup/restore..  F    You're over a decade out of date.  Digital fixed this by adding theG    move file primitive to the OS.  Move file is approved, used by DEC'si9    (HP's) product, and used by most third party products.i   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:53:42 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)-) Subject: Re: VMS Defragmentation Software 3 Message-ID: <UYO5iVlt1J9B@eisner.encompasserve.org>z  j In article <PLTsb.39370$W7.25240@news.chello.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: > H > I tend to prefer products of the same company as the underlying opsys.H > Especially when said software is non-usermode (or using an internal or > undocumented API)...  E    This is VMS, not Microsoft.  The move file API has been documentedy    for a long, long, time.   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:45:50 +0000 (UTC)=, From: lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)) Subject: Re: VMS Defragmentation Software*. Message-ID: <bp34ce$bqa$2@newslocal.mitre.org>  z "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes in article <3FB469DE.9000109@MMaz.com> dated Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:36:30 -0700: >Keith A. Lewis wrote: >o| >>"Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes in article <3FB40CB7.9000009@MMaz.com> dated Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:59:03 -0700: >>   >>L >>>I've never had a problem obtaining new keys from them.  Did you not have > >>>a maintenance contract or, at a minimum, proof of purchase? >>>    = >>>= >>@ >>Their issue was that  I had "upgraded" my system (by replacingH >>EV4 CPU boards with EV5) and therefore I owed them an "upgrade fee".   >>   >> > H >You're being silly.  If you had upgraded your hardware that required a F >change in license pak but you chose not up upgrade your licenses and J >then complained to HP that your software now doesn't work and they don't D >want to issue a key because the license is now invalid, that is no G >different.  Bottom line is that you were in violation of your license -H >and perhaps Raxco's licensing is light-weight enough to not detect the = >hardware except at installation time, but that is not their :4 >responsibility but yours to remain in compliance...  3 I'm probably being silly by continuing this thread.o  K My point is not whether a company has a right to charge a person every time'H they add a CPU to their machine or whatever, it's that if you get into aL situation like that it may become a hassle down the road, and people who are7 considering purchasing software should weigh that fact.i  7 Hassle, hassle, hassle, hassle, hassle, hassle, hassle.e Raxco = hassle.U   Get it?t  K Now if you want to talk about an actual ripoff, I'll tell you a story abouti( $100,000 worth of Polycenter software...  0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 02:09:39 -06004 From: kuhrt@nospammy.encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)$ Subject: Re: VMS Perl Question re LF3 Message-ID: <S3TTMEUXO+Hu@eisner.encompasserve.org>o  R In article <bp0pee$7jj$1@info2.uah.edu>, jim@info2.uah.edu (Jim McCullars) writes:7 > Craig A. Berry (craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler) wrote:s > L > : Sure, lots of it.  Start by getting a recent version of Perl.  5.8.2 is L > : current.  Anything older than 5.6 is really only of historical interest - > : and not recommended for production use.  b > I >    Well, I did find another Compaq "free software" CD that had 5.005 son > I'm getting there :-)f > L > : When reading an indexed file containing binary data, the implicit reads K > : done by the <> operator are a poor choice.  I'd suggest installing and  9 > : using the VMS::IndexedFile extension (available from d > O >    That's two replies suggesting basically the same thing.  I think it's timelC > for me to check that out.  Thank you (and Brad) for the feedback.y  : The following link will take you to where you can download( perl 5.6.1 for the Alpha (mind the wrap)  R http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws_perl_relnotes.html#down   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:47:24 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)f- Subject: Re: VMS- submit queue only runs oncec3 Message-ID: <rUzLtg9X6eqe@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  [ In article <3FB45C2D.BC8833FB@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:t > Jason wrote: >> nG >> I have added submit /after="+:5" DKA0:[directory]filename.com to thee >> end of filename.com.a   > J > Sounds like you're accustomed to UN*X and you're expecting SUBMIT to actI > like "crontab" instead of "at". SUBMIT is like "at" - one time only. IfrD > you want a job to reSUBMIT itself, you'll need to include a SUBMIT > command in the job itself.  $    Sounds to me exactly what he did.   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 06:18:32 -0800. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)- Subject: Re: VMS- submit queue only runs once = Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0311140618.158c01c6@posting.google.com>:  j jasonbarath@hotmail.com (Jason) wrote in message news:<38d332b4.0311131420.64fb6f66@posting.google.com>...F > I have added submit /after="+:5" DKA0:[directory]filename.com to theF > end of filename.com.  If I run filename.com the job is submitted theE > first time only.  When the job runs it doesnt submit itself again. nE > What am I missing here?  I would like this job to sumbit itself ands  ? You're missing the fact that we are not psychic. If the commandaB procedure is short, please post it in its entirety. If it is long,E then please post relevant portions of it. And do the same for the log B file and then maybe we can help you instead of taking shots in the dark.a   > run every five minutes.  > F > Filename.com runs on its own just fine and takes about 10 seconds to > complete, with no errors.   E Have you examined the log file? Be sure to use the /NOPRINT qualifieraE with your SUBMIT command to avoid automatic deletion of the log file.d   > 	 > Thanks,- >  > JB   Alan E. Feldmana   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:35:03 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org- Subject: Re: VMS- submit queue only runs oncer3 Message-ID: <fKGaQ26G$1U5@eisner.encompasserve.org>s  [ In article <3FB45C2D.BC8833FB@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:  > Jason wrote: >> oG >> I have added submit /after="+:5" DKA0:[directory]filename.com to thegG >> end of filename.com.  If I run filename.com the job is submitted thesE >> first time only.  When the job runs it doesnt submit itself again.pF >> What am I missing here?  I would like this job to sumbit itself and >> run every five minutes. >> -G >> Filename.com runs on its own just fine and takes about 10 seconds toe >> complete, with no errors. > J > Sounds like you're accustomed to UN*X and you're expecting SUBMIT to actI > like "crontab" instead of "at". SUBMIT is like "at" - one time only. If D > you want a job to reSUBMIT itself, you'll need to include a SUBMIT > command in the job itself.  @ No.  He's OK there.  He's submitting filename.com with a line of code in filename.com.   C But we don't have a strong assurance that his batch job is reaching E the line of code with the resubmit command, that the resubmit commandeE is running successfully or that the resubmitted job is not blowing upp
 unexpectedly.r  D First step is to look at the batch .LOG file.  Make sure it has one.C (SUBMIT /KEEP /NOPRINT)  Make sure the job ran cleanly, that it dido! the resubmit and that he sees thel  L  Job FILENAME (queue ALPHA_BATCH, entry 907) holding until 14-NOV-2003 08:26  F that identifies the entry number that got resubmitted.  Make sure he's looking at the right log file.  B Now check the batch queue.  Make sure the indicated entry is thereD and has the appropriate qualifiers.  Make sure it has /KEEP /NOPRINT' so that its log file will stick around.w  I If the resubmitted job shows up in the batch queue but disappears without%E leaving behind a log file, he may need to look at process accounting:h  . $ SET ACCOUNTING /ENABLE	! If it's not already. $ ! do your stuff, wait a few minutes and thenJ $ ACCOUNTING /FULL /SINCE=TODAY /TYPE=PROCESS /PROCESS=BATCH /ENTRY=entry#   	John Briggs   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:49:55 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)o- Subject: Re: VMS- submit queue only runs oncel3 Message-ID: <UFl5ZOv3k70w@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <0GxP+$tZ33Yc@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:-g > In article <38d332b4.0311131420.64fb6f66@posting.google.com>, jasonbarath@hotmail.com (Jason) writes:cG >> I have added submit /after="+:5" DKA0:[directory]filename.com to theeG >> end of filename.com.  If I run filename.com the job is submitted the F >> first time only.  When the job runs it doesnt submit itself again. F >> What am I missing here?  I would like this job to sumbit itself and >> run every five minutes. >> wG >> Filename.com runs on its own just fine and takes about 10 seconds ton >> complete, with no errors.  ?   A copy of the .log file would help.  Since you didn't specify A   /noprint or /keep, it probably was printed out on SYS$PRINT andw
   deleted.   > P > Use an executable image and the REPTIM argument to the $SCHDWK system service.  C   That won't survive a reboot.  Self-submiting batch jobs, with the 1   proper restart handling, will survive a reboot.    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Nov 2003 07:04:19 -0800. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) Subject: Web VT Emulation < Message-ID: <f30679fb.0311140704.b4faa2d@posting.google.com>  	 Dear Sirsn  : Do u know a good plug-in to emulate VTs under IExplorer ? E I am interested to generate reports (.lis) in the VT and show them inr; PDF format in the PC for printing in the Windows printer ? h= Like using some escape sequences from the VT to the browser.  B May be using Sanface txt2pdf to generate a view for these jobs  !      Anyone tried it ?n   RegardsS   FC   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:14:18 -0500o% From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET>r Subject: Re: Web VT Emulation / Message-ID: <vr9vjr2g4r4tfc@news.supernews.com>g   www.ipswitch.com ?   DT    ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in messager6 news:f30679fb.0311140704.b4faa2d@posting.google.com... > Dear Sirsi >i; > Do u know a good plug-in to emulate VTs under IExplorer ?tG > I am interested to generate reports (.lis) in the VT and show them inO< > PDF format in the PC for printing in the Windows printer ?> > Like using some escape sequences from the VT to the browser.C > May be using Sanface txt2pdf to generate a view for these jobs  !  >t >  > Anyone tried it ?, >d	 > Regardsh >y > FC   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:41:05 GMTo/ From: "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com>g- Subject: Re: What is "TCPIP Client for VMS" ?f7 Message-ID: <RX4tb.67046$1N3.2747@twister.nyroc.rr.com>o  4 From the TCPIP$CONFIG on a NAS150/TCPIP V5.1 system:  E     1 - BIND         No Server Licens      11 - NTP          Disablede StoppedgF     2 - BOOTP        No Server Licens      12 - PC-NFS       No Server LicensE     3 - DHCP         No Server Licens      13 - POP          Disabled  StoppedmE     4 - FINGER       Enabled  Started      14 - PORTMAPPER   Disabled  StoppedlD     5 - FTP          Enabled  Started      15 - RLOGIN       Enabled Started E     6 - LBROKER      Disabled Stopped      16 - RMT          Disabledt StoppedlE     7 - LPR/LPD      Enabled  Started      17 - SNMP         Disableds Stopped D     8 - METRIC       Disabled Stopped      18 - TELNET       Enabled StartedrF     9 - NFS          No Server Licens      19 - TFTP         No Server LicensE    10 - LOCKD/STATD  No Server Licens      20 - XDM          Disabledh Stoppedt  B The items marked "No Server Licens(e)" are not included in NAS150.   -Jeff:  3 "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in messageo! news:3FB3C30E.A7263F1C@aaa.com...P > Hi.t1 > In the SPD for NAS150, it says that it includest+ > "Compaq TCP/IP Client for OpenVMS Alpha".s >i9 > Now, I'v been searching for some information about what 6 > a "client" version of TCPIP is. What is missing from > the "real stuff" ? >s > Anyone know ?i >h > Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:18:24 -0500L% From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET>a- Subject: Re: What is "TCPIP Client for VMS" ?4/ Message-ID: <vr9vreq7jiru30@news.supernews.com>.  F You would think, in 2003, that OpenVMS comes with this all integrated.  1 TCPIP is a standard in pretty much every other OSoE When you think how much you pay for OVMS base license - typically VMSo systems are serversn5 everything involved in networking SHOULD be included.o- One more reason VMS is losing market share...   G If you could see how many TCPIP/Decnet/Moif Kits we buy from Compaq perl month.B And I thought people were not allowed to print their own money !!!   DT  : "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com> wrote in message1 news:RX4tb.67046$1N3.2747@twister.nyroc.rr.com...e6 > From the TCPIP$CONFIG on a NAS150/TCPIP V5.1 system: >yG >     1 - BIND         No Server Licens      11 - NTP          Disabled 	 > StoppednH >     2 - BOOTP        No Server Licens      12 - PC-NFS       No Server > LicensG >     3 - DHCP         No Server Licens      13 - POP          Disablede	 > StoppedsG >     4 - FINGER       Enabled  Started      14 - PORTMAPPER   Disabledw	 > StoppedlF >     5 - FTP          Enabled  Started      15 - RLOGIN       Enabled	 > Started G >     6 - LBROKER      Disabled Stopped      16 - RMT          Disabled?	 > Stopped G >     7 - LPR/LPD      Enabled  Started      17 - SNMP         Disabledi	 > StoppedaF >     8 - METRIC       Disabled Stopped      18 - TELNET       Enabled	 > StartediH >     9 - NFS          No Server Licens      19 - TFTP         No Server > LicensG >    10 - LOCKD/STATD  No Server Licens      20 - XDM          Disabled 	 > Stoppedt >aD > The items marked "No Server Licens(e)" are not included in NAS150. >  > -Jeffr >15 > "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in messagen# > news:3FB3C30E.A7263F1C@aaa.com...I > > Hi. 3 > > In the SPD for NAS150, it says that it includesc- > > "Compaq TCP/IP Client for OpenVMS Alpha".r > >a; > > Now, I'v been searching for some information about whatV8 > > a "client" version of TCPIP is. What is missing from > > the "real stuff" ? > >  > > Anyone know ?e > >o
 > > Jan-Erik.r >  >e   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:13:47 +0100v* From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>4 Subject: Re: [OpenVMS VAX V7.3] OPC$LOGFILE_ENABLE ?0 Message-ID: <3FB4F12B.4B377385@sture.homeip.net>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: > l > In article <R6Usb.39883$W7.23044@news.chello.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: > >[OPERATOR.LOG on VAX] > >So, my questions arise:% > >*) where is the bug ? Am I blind ?  > H > I found one. The OPC$ logicals are also (or sometimes only) honored byO > the OPCOM.EXE. But documentation states that logfiles are enabled by default,iN > except for workstations in clusters (which is not the case for my standalone3 > VAX) and I did explicitely define the logicals...e  E I had this problem back in the V6.2 era with a couple of Alpha 2100s.rD They appeared to be ignoring the setting of the OPC logicals, simplyG because they had graphics heads. My workaround was to issue a REPLY/LOG  within the startup files.   F Somewhere during the course of upgrading to 7.1, 7.2 and now 7.3-1 the5 problem "went away". Sorry I cannot be more specific.e   -- g
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:43:10 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com># Subject: [OT] p*o*e*t*s* of the day 4 Message-ID: <3fb487a7$0$27566$626a54ce@news.free.fr>  @ The AlphaServer GS1280 is the latest jewel of the DEC crown era:  & http://awesomegems.com/gems/gs1280.jpg   D.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.632 ************************