1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 16 Nov 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 636       Contents: Re: A sort of a "me too" Re: A sort of a "me too"- Re: An apology to all the groups I've trolled - Re: An apology to all the groups I've trolled - Re: An apology to all the groups I've trolled  Re: AS1000A 5/300 memory, Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app, Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app, Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app, Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app" MAIL /SMTP refusing .. in username& Re: MAIL /SMTP refusing .. in username Re: Main memory for galaxy% Re: OT: Did you really write this JF?  Re: VMS BBS??? Re: VMS BBS??? Re: VMS BBS??? Re: VMS BBS??? xscreensaver [ASOVMS V7.3-2] What licenses ? # Re: [ASOVMS V7.3-2] What licenses ? # Re: [ASOVMS V7.3-2] What licenses ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:15:25 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>! Subject: Re: A sort of a "me too" 0 Message-ID: <3FB76A5D.61408CAC@sture.homeip.net>   Carl Perkins wrote:  > J > Well, it's happened to me too - today was my last day at my current job. > L > I may or may not be working with VMS at my next job (since I havn't got itL > yet, I don't know), and so I may or may not be hanging around here so much > in the future. > < > It's been fun and interesting, at least a lot of the time. >   ) Good luck and best wishes for the future.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:49:16 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ! Subject: Re: A sort of a "me too" G Message-ID: <00Ntb.12786$j1d.3561@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>    Carl Perkins wrote: E > Well, it's happened to me too - today was my last day at my current  > job. > E > I may or may not be working with VMS at my next job (since I havn't F > got it yet, I don't know), and so I may or may not be hanging around > here so much in the future.  > < > It's been fun and interesting, at least a lot of the time.    G HP needs to hire some VMS marketing people. Call Rich Marcello and Mark K Gorham and see if you can get the job. No offense to you, but anybody could 6 do a better job than the people currently in the role.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:02:23 +0100 ( From: "H Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>6 Subject: Re: An apology to all the groups I've trolled: Message-ID: <bp7sm4$1ln0hm$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   Didier  I je suis sr que cette texte n'avais pas ecrit par JF. C'est un troll sans  doute. Ignorer.    Hans  1 "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> schreef in bericht - news:3fb5fbf2$0$2777$626a54ce@news.free.fr... F > Tu aurais pu rsumer tout a en ne cross-postant pas ce message dans > comp.os.vms. >  > Qu'en penses-tu? > ( > (on peut peut-tre continuer off-line)
 > Amitis, >  > D. >  > JF Mezei wrote:  >  > couic  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:42:06 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>6 Subject: Re: An apology to all the groups I've trolled4 Message-ID: <3fb77eae$0$10430$626a54ce@news.free.fr>  ' Okay Hans, pardon : D'accord Hans ! :-)   H Si je comprends bien, toute cette histoire sur JF est de la c*nnerie et B il n'est pas celui que l'on croyait ? M*rde alors, moi qui lui ai H tlphon (de Toulouse) pour lui tmoigner ma sympathie... Remarque, il  a toujours ma sympathie :-)    D.4 PS: ton franais est meilleur que mon hollandais :-)   H Vlems wrote:   > Didier > K > je suis sr que cette texte n'avais pas ecrit par JF. C'est un troll sans  > doute. Ignorer.  >  > Hans > 3 > "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> schreef in bericht / > news:3fb5fbf2$0$2777$626a54ce@news.free.fr...  > F >>Tu aurais pu rsumer tout a en ne cross-postant pas ce message dans >>comp.os.vms. >> >>Qu'en penses-tu?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:41:23 +0100 ( From: "H Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>6 Subject: Re: An apology to all the groups I've trolled: Message-ID: <bp8ghl$1l9hft$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>  H Oui: m%rde, c'est en fait le mot propre. Je crois que ces communicationsK dans c.o.v. sont vraiment ecrit par JF (le vrai JF). Par contre, les autres K textes sont probablement ecrit par un ennemi de lui. Si je comprend bien la G situation, votre support etait justifi. Tu as lui tlphon: qu'est-ce  qu'etait son raction?  1 "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> schreef in bericht . news:3fb77eae$0$10430$626a54ce@news.free.fr...) > Okay Hans, pardon : D'accord Hans ! :-)  > I > Si je comprends bien, toute cette histoire sur JF est de la c*nnerie et C > il n'est pas celui que l'on croyait ? M*rde alors, moi qui lui ai I > tlphon (de Toulouse) pour lui tmoigner ma sympathie... Remarque, il  > a toujours ma sympathie :-)  >  > D.6 > PS: ton franais est meilleur que mon hollandais :-) >  > H Vlems wrote: > 
 > > Didier > > H > > je suis sr que cette texte n'avais pas ecrit par JF. C'est un troll sans > > doute. Ignorer.  > >  > > Hans > > 5 > > "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> schreef in bericht 1 > > news:3fb5fbf2$0$2777$626a54ce@news.free.fr...  > > H > >>Tu aurais pu rsumer tout a en ne cross-postant pas ce message dans > >>comp.os.vms. > >> > >>Qu'en penses-tu? >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:25:03 -0600 / From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> ! Subject: Re: AS1000A 5/300 memory 8 Message-ID: <359frvsln0qg3o3j3ft7d6fv6bpqopvqme@4ax.com>  A They do need to be parity - the system builds ECC from the parity   6 EV4 systems need 5 SIMMs per bank, EV5 use 4 per bank.   Clay  ; On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 0:07:18 -0500, koskaj@bender.com wrote:   G >>From:	SMTP%"dano@process.com"  "Dan O'Reilly" 15-NOV-2003 23:24:53.40  >>Subj:	AS1000A 5/300 memory >>K >>Looking for anybody "in the know" regarding AS1000A 5/300 memory.  I know 3 >>it's 72-pin, 70ns, FPM.  But is it parity or not?  >  >Try the following link: > f >http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/options/as1000aev5/as1000aev5_1_options_sorted.html#OptListHead > M >I believe it is not parity, since you need the 5th memory stick for parity.  K >I could be wrong, but I am sure someone will reply with definitive answer.  > H >I got 256 megs (5 X 64megs) from Pioneer about a year ago for $480.00 . >  >:) jck  >John Koska  >Matthew Bender & Co., Inc.   >JKoska@nospam.bender.nospam.com >  >>Thanks in advance! >> >>------L >>+-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+L >>| Dan O'Reilly                  |  "There are 10 types of people in this |L >>| Principal Engineer            |   world: those who understand binary   |L >>| Process Software              |   and those who don't."                |L >>| http://www.process.com        |                                        |L >>+-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ >> >>   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 02:12:48 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>5 Subject: Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app ) Message-ID: <3FB7235C.3B1A06F3@istop.com>    Roland Mainz wrote: 3 > > VMS is not standardized on CDE due to politics.  >  > Ouch.   M Yep.  And it is about to get worse with the Alpha version getting an upgrade,  but not the VAX one.  J > Just curious: Is there any documentation about the "VMS print widget" on > the web ?   ? Yep. The "Digital" documentation on Decwondows is available at: G http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/5635/5635pro_005.html#dxm_rout_11   N Beware that some of these may not apply to all VMS installations because thereL are differences between VAX and Alpha. (note that Mozilla hasn't been ported to VAX).  " The print widget is documented at:  G http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/5635/5635pro_005.html#dxm_rout_11   * Resources of the widget are documented at:N http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/5635/5635pro_018.html#dxmprintdialog_sec  D > Is it possible to query the DCPS printing system somehow about the# > printer properties via a script ?   K Nop. DCPS is a very background software that just takes over after you have M submitted a file to be printed. It does have neat features such as converting M a text file to postscript. The DCPS config modules only tell DCPS how to talk K to a printer. For instance, how to get the page count before the job starts I and how to get the page count after the job ends  so that DCPS can add an 0 accountinv record of how many pages you printed.  F > BTW: Do you have have URL where the DCPS stuff be being documented ?  ' http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/dcps.html   - > The Xprint server is usually a 2nd Xserver    N Does this mean that it is a different piece of hardware, or just a virtualisedB X-server running on the machine to which the printer is attached ?  J > coordinate space is much bigger (for example at 300DPI/DIN-A4 you have aG > paper sheet of nearly 3300x3300 pixels to draw on) ... a drawing area F > widget which looks big on a 90DPI monitor will look far smaller on a > 300DPI printout...  K In the case of postscript, the coordinate system remains at 72dpi no matter I what the hardware resolution is. So for drawing lines, characters etc, it L doesn't matter. For bitmaps, it itsn't too difficult if you have an image ofJ 500*500 pixels that needs to fit in a rectangle of X/Y size, you issue theM "scale" command to fit that image into the 72dpi coordinate system. It is the 5 same scale whether you print at 300, 600 or 2400 dpi.   E (if you include a 1200 dpi image sent to a 300 dpi printer, you waste N basdwidth as the printer will dismiss the excess information. If you send a 72H dpi image to a 300 dpi printer, the printer will fill in the gaps (earlyK printers would show lots of japped edges, more modern printers have smarter ' processing to make image nicer looking.   L But I guess that if your Xprint subsystem is designed to support other typesK of printers, then yes, you do have to worry about resolution if you need to V rasterize the contents in the printer's resolution (for instance dot matrix printers).   > Uhm... who is "they" ?!     J The folks who manage VMS.  They have very low priorities on esoteric stuffI such as user applications because someone decided VMS was just a faceless ; server operating system that couldn't compete against Unix.   I Because of that,  there is work that wasn't done on updating DCPS to also  provide application support.  L And because DCPS uses "proprietary" configurations, adding support for a newL printer is not something users can normally do unless the printer is capableM of providing the same information DCPS expects to get from a printer (such as  page count).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:56:10 +0100 ? From: Roland Mainz <roland.mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> 5 Subject: Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app = Message-ID: <3FB73BAA.7635B725@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de>    JF Mezei wrote: 5 > > > VMS is not standardized on CDE due to politics.  > > 	 > > Ouch.  > O > Yep.  And it is about to get worse with the Alpha version getting an upgrade,  > but not the VAX one.  ; Uhm... why ? Forcing user to switch over to Alpha or what ?   L > > Just curious: Is there any documentation about the "VMS print widget" on
 > > the web ?  > A > Yep. The "Digital" documentation on Decwondows is available at: I > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/5635/5635pro_005.html#dxm_rout_11  > P > Beware that some of these may not apply to all VMS installations because thereN > are differences between VAX and Alpha. (note that Mozilla hasn't been ported
 > to VAX).  G Just curious: Would it be possible to port it (I guess we would need an < assember hacker for the XPConnect stuff and a decent ISO C++ compiler...) ?  $ > The print widget is documented at: > I > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/5635/5635pro_005.html#dxm_rout_11  > , > Resources of the widget are documented at:P > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/5635/5635pro_018.html#dxmprintdialog_sec  / Thanks! I'll take a look at that later today...    [snip]. > > The Xprint server is usually a 2nd Xserver > : > Does this mean that it is a different piece of hardware,   heh... no...   > or just a virtualised D > X-server running on the machine to which the printer is attached ?  G The Xprint server side is only a piece of software which translates the F X11 drawing instructions to the matching PDL (for example: PostScript)E and sends those print jobs to the spooler if the application finishes D it's print job. No special hardware is needed... it's only software.  L > > coordinate space is much bigger (for example at 300DPI/DIN-A4 you have aI > > paper sheet of nearly 3300x3300 pixels to draw on) ... a drawing area H > > widget which looks big on a 90DPI monitor will look far smaller on a > > 300DPI printout... > M > In the case of postscript, the coordinate system remains at 72dpi no matter K > what the hardware resolution is. So for drawing lines, characters etc, it N > doesn't matter. For bitmaps, it itsn't too difficult if you have an image ofL > 500*500 pixels that needs to fit in a rectangle of X/Y size, you issue theO > "scale" command to fit that image into the 72dpi coordinate system. It is the 7 > same scale whether you print at 300, 600 or 2400 dpi.  > G > (if you include a 1200 dpi image sent to a 300 dpi printer, you waste P > basdwidth as the printer will dismiss the excess information. If you send a 72J > dpi image to a 300 dpi printer, the printer will fill in the gaps (earlyM > printers would show lots of japped edges, more modern printers have smarter ) > processing to make image nicer looking.   C The Xprint API provides the |XpSetImageResolution| call[1] to set a F scaling factor for subsequent |XPutImage| calls - which means: scalingC of images is implemented, don't worry. You can grab images from the H video Xserver and print them on the print Xserver without blowing-up the; amount of data send to the printer (that would be stupid :)   H [1]=(however, IMO that function is slightly stupid... I wish there would- be a simple |XpPutScaledImage()| instead of a [ |XpSetImageResolution(set_image_res)|,|XPutImage|,|XpSetImageResolution(restore_image_res)|  sequence...   N > But I guess that if your Xprint subsystem is designed to support other typesM > of printers, then yes, you do have to worry about resolution if you need to X > rasterize the contents in the printer's resolution (for instance dot matrix printers).  G The PostScript, PDF and PCL DDX do not rasterize anything on the server A side (the only Xprint DDX which does that is the RASTER DDX (1bit F monocrome surface)) - they simply translate the X11 instruction streamB into the matching PDL. The idea of having support for rendering onF various resolutions has more the idea of having an exact definition ofC how single pixels can be addressed - from both PDL and embedded PDL  fragments side.    > > Uhm... who is "they" ?!  > L > The folks who manage VMS.  They have very low priorities on esoteric stuffK > such as user applications because someone decided VMS was just a faceless = > server operating system that couldn't compete against Unix.    Heh.  K > Because of that,  there is work that wasn't done on updating DCPS to also  > provide application support. > N > And because DCPS uses "proprietary" configurations, adding support for a newN > printer is not something users can normally do unless the printer is capableO > of providing the same information DCPS expects to get from a printer (such as  > page count).  H Was the "API" which is used to query the printer ever be published (I am? wondering how this should work . it would require bidirectional F communication which wasn't available on all kinds of computer hardware in the old days) ?   ----   Bye, Roland   --     __ .  . __8  (o.\ \/ /.o) Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de<   \__\/\/__/  MPEG specialist, C&&JAVA&&Sun&&Unix programmer5   /O /==\ O\  TEL +49 2426 901568 FAX +49 2426 901569 
  (;O/ \/ \O;)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:28:54 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>5 Subject: Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app ) Message-ID: <3FB74339.2CF36223@istop.com>    Roland Mainz wrote: Q > > Yep.  And it is about to get worse with the Alpha version getting an upgrade,  > > but not the VAX one. > = > Uhm... why ? Forcing user to switch over to Alpha or what ?     K The excuse is that vax doesn't support IEEE floating point in hardware. And K they didn't port JAVA to VAx because of that. (it would be "too" slow.) But N vbetter slow than nothing. And because of that, they won't port anything which3 might want to have JAVA access , such as a browser.     I > Just curious: Would it be possible to port it (I guess we would need an > > assember hacker for the XPConnect stuff and a decent ISO C++ > compiler...) ?  K VAX has the C++ and C compilers. and it has the Xwindows software (just the % older one, Motif 1.2-5 for instance).   I > The Xprint server side is only a piece of software which translates the H > X11 drawing instructions to the matching PDL (for example: PostScript)G > and sends those print jobs to the spooler if the application finishes F > it's print job. No special hardware is needed... it's only software.  A Is it possible to have it run on the X-client side of things (the M "mainframe").  Since the job would be spooled by the mainframe, it would make ' sense to have the file generated there.   E > of images is implemented, don't worry. You can grab images from the J > video Xserver and print them on the print Xserver without blowing-up the= > amount of data send to the printer (that would be stupid :)   L But sometimes much simpler to accomplish since you let the printer do the up or down sampling of image :-)   J > Was the "API" which is used to query the printer ever be published (I amA > wondering how this should work . it would require bidirectional H > communication which wasn't available on all kinds of computer hardware > in the old days) ?  H There is no API. The DCPS software is an "application" which runs in theK background, attached to the queue manager (in VMS terms, a print symbiont). L And when the queue is started, the DCPS software takes control of the deviceN to which the printer is attached, so another process can't talk to the printer via that device.  H There is no bidirectional communication between an application and DCPS.M Actually, you don't ever talk to DCPS, you talk to the queue manager who then L hands your job to DCPS because DCPS is the designated symbiont for the print queue you selected.   J Of course, one could ditch DCPS, and even ditch the queing system and talkB directly to the device. However, if one has proper PPD support (orI equivalent), one wouldn't need to have such direct communicatiosn between N application and printer since the PPD would offer the application all it needsP to know about the printer.  (in your case, a PPD translated to your own format).    Z This whole issue is why I raised the issue, hoping to get some VMS side of the discussion.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:30:11 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) 5 Subject: Re: Fonts for printing from a decwindows app L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1611030831100001@user-uinj45c.dialup.mindspring.com>  J In article <3FB73BAA.7635B725@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de>, Roland Mainz3 <roland.mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> wrote:    >JF Mezei wrote:  1 ... some useful infromation, and some nonsense...      ...    >> > Uhm... who is "they" ?! >>  M >> The folks who manage VMS.  They have very low priorities on esoteric stuff L >> such as user applications because someone decided VMS was just a faceless> >> server operating system that couldn't compete against Unix. >  >Heh.     J While JF often writes, very confidently, as if he understands the thinkingG of VMS management, he does not.  Nevertheless, sometimes his _opinions_  are useful.     L >> Because of that,  there is work that wasn't done on updating DCPS to also >> provide application support.  >>  O >> And because DCPS uses "proprietary" configurations, adding support for a new O >> printer is not something users can normally do unless the printer is capable P >> of providing the same information DCPS expects to get from a printer (such as >> page count).  > I >Was the "API" which is used to query the printer ever be published (I am @ >wondering how this should work . it would require bidirectionalG >communication which wasn't available on all kinds of computer hardware  >in the old days) ?   @ Until the current version, DCPS always did require bidirectionalG communication.  It has printer-specific modules that attempt to make as H much of the printer's functionality available as possible.  I guess it's) fair to call those modules "proprietary".   H DCPS also allows users to supply text modules (i.e. postscript code) forE arbitrary, unsupported postscript printers.  The DCL print command is J flexible to let users create jobs that access these modules.  For example,A these features let me add in input and output tray control for an   "unsupported" printer in DCPS.    I Any application, including a X-windows component, can access VMS printing 8 mechanisms through the same published API that DCL uses.  I What DCPS lack, AFAIK, is an API allowing users to supply code to enhance  printing capibilities.  H If DCPS supports a printer, it just works (within the limitations of theI hardware and firmware).  Otherwise extra work, sometimes a lot, is needed 5 to get the same features from an unsupported printer.      -- Robert    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:29:39 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>+ Subject: MAIL /SMTP refusing .. in username ) Message-ID: <3FB76DB2.DBA23433@istop.com>   I I have been given an internet email address such as F..Chef@chocolate.com   L However, MAIL refuses to accept this user. I have tried various permutationsM with quotes to no avail. Does anyone know the proper incantation of quotes or 1 other gadget to make MAIL and SMTP% accept this ?   L Also, on DECwindows mail, I had a distribution list that included that name.I When sending, it first complained about a "..@." and asked if I wanted to E continue. I said "YES" and it proceeded to tell me that messages were R succesfully sent to the others (listing the other names in the distribution list).  L However, the smtp queues revealed that the message was never sent. Not quite. the reliable program one would have expected !    Q I was able to send to this user from my PDA with its very primitive mail program.    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2003 18:55:11 +0100# From: Nik <mnjensen@netvigator.com> / Subject: Re: MAIL /SMTP refusing .. in username 9 Message-ID: <18TA9LM937941.7878819444@Gilgamesh-frog.org>   + JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:   J >I have been given an internet email address such as F..Chef@chocolate.com > M >However, MAIL refuses to accept this user. I have tried various permutations N >with quotes to no avail. Does anyone know the proper incantation of quotes or2 >other gadget to make MAIL and SMTP% accept this ?   Try some of these........   $ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> " Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> " Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> ( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> % Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org> ! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> # Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>   Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>  Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> $ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> ! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>   Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org> % Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org> $ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> & Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> % Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org> & Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> ( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil> ' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> % Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> $ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> ( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org> " Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> & Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> ) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org> ' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> " Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> ' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org> * Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  Q <queue@continuum.net>  Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:39:45 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net># Subject: Re: Main memory for galaxy 0 Message-ID: <3FB76201.2C5D0A5F@sture.homeip.net>   Roy Omond wrote: >  > Martin Vorlaender wrote: >  > > [... snip ...]H > > >  Paul:  What exactly is GCU?  I am not familiar with that Acronym. > > ! > > Galaxy Configuration Utility.  > > H > > A graphical (DWmotif) application that shows the partitioning of the" > > machine. Drap-and-drop CPUs... > > & > > It resides in SYS$EXAMPLES:, IIRC. > + > Small correction: it's Sys$System:GCU.Exe  > at least in VMS 7.3-1. >  > Roy Omond  > Blue Bubble Ltd.   Ah, but there is also:  & Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES]  : GCU$BALANCER.C;1    GCU$BALANCER.CLD;1  GCU$BALANCER.EXE;1                   1 I haven't used either, so cannot comment further.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:56:36 +0100 ( From: "H Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>. Subject: Re: OT: Did you really write this JF?: Message-ID: <bp7sb9$1lnidv$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   JF   you have my sympathy.    Hans  9 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> schreef in bericht # news:3FB6EDAE.FF41DE99@istop.com...  > Ken Farmer wrote:  > > 3 > > Just wondering if you really wrote this drivel?  > G > For crying out loud , learn to read headers, will you ? Anything that  comes J > from dizum.com, as well as that gilgamesh remailer and the mit anonymousF > remailer etc are FORGED. OK. I am sick and tired of this, and it has	 gotten to I > a point where people are starting to call the wrong people. I've had to  have, > my phone de-listed because of the asshole. > G > I fully understand why "John Smith" doesn't post under his real name.  However,J > even though I have left the newsgroups where those posts originate, theyJ > continue to find whatever excuse to post whatever they feel about me, so evenK > if I were to start posting under another name here, they'd still continue  to* > invent stuff about me and cross post it. > 5 > (I say "they", but it is probably a single person).  > J > And before you get all gung ho about the into-posted-from , my ISP has a proxy L > with Bell Sympatico (I have a choice of 3 news servers), so that IP is not mine.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:52:59 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> Subject: Re: VMS BBS??? 4 Message-ID: <3fb73aec$0$10437$626a54ce@news.free.fr>  
 slaX0r wrote:   	 > Hi all,  > G > I'm a sort-of VMS hobbyist using simh. I say sort-of because my only  F > experience with VMS was about 10 years ago as a user. I'm learning, 
 > though! <g>  > J > I'm looking for any BBS software for VMS. Does anyone know of any? I've K > seen references to the DFWLUG BBS, but no mention of their software, and  J > they seem to be defunct. I'd love to bring a real VMS BBS online, so if % > anyone can help, I'd appreciate it!   F My apologies. On the Freeware V5 CD it is the NT Client Notes distrib  which is available.   I I suppose the VMS one is on the standard Software Library CDs, that I do   not have by me right now.    D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:08:21 -0600 5 From: "Martin P.J. Zinser" <zinser@zinser.no-ip.info>  Subject: Re: VMS BBS??? : Message-ID: <bp8b14$1lu1qj$1@ID-209632.news.uni-berlin.de>   Didier Morandi wrote:  > slaX0r wrote:  > 
 >> Hi all, >>H >> I'm a sort-of VMS hobbyist using simh. I say sort-of because my only G >> experience with VMS was about 10 years ago as a user. I'm learning,   >> though! <g> >>F >> I'm looking for any BBS software for VMS. Does anyone know of any? C >> I've seen references to the DFWLUG BBS, but no mention of their  G >> software, and they seem to be defunct. I'd love to bring a real VMS  8 >> BBS online, so if anyone can help, I'd appreciate it! >  > H > My apologies. On the Freeware V5 CD it is the NT Client Notes distrib  > which is available.  > K > I suppose the VMS one is on the standard Software Library CDs, that I do   > not have by me right now.  >  > D. > I AFAIK the DECnotes server will be part of the V6 freeware CD set, due to  A be out with OpenVMS 7.3-2. FRS is expected beginning of December.    Greetings, Martin    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:59:46 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> Subject: Re: VMS BBS??? 4 Message-ID: <3fb7bb13$0$10401$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   Martin P.J. Zinser wrote:   K > AFAIK the DECnotes server will be part of the V6 freeware CD set, due to  C > be out with OpenVMS 7.3-2. FRS is expected beginning of December.    as i64 8.2 early adopters will.    D.2 PS: "FRS"? you mean "FCS" First Customer Shipment?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:16:41 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: VMS BBS??? 1 Message-ID: <daPtb.99566$W7.58832@news.chello.at>   Y In article <3fb7bb13$0$10401$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes:  >Martin P.J. Zinser wrote:L >> AFAIK the DECnotes server will be part of the V6 freeware CD set, due to D >> be out with OpenVMS 7.3-2. FRS is expected beginning of December. >   >as i64 8.2 early adopters will. >  >D. 3 >PS: "FRS"? you mean "FCS" First Customer Shipment?   - First Revenue Shipment. A paying Customer ;-)    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:29:16 GMT 4 From: "Phillip R Sobottke" <psobottke@ameritech.net> Subject: xscreensaver @ Message-ID: <wBNtb.10527$P%1.9334657@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>  L What is the best way for a novice like myself to get xscreensaver running on my alpha machine?    I do not have a C compiler   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:09:46 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)( Subject: [ASOVMS V7.3-2] What licenses ?1 Message-ID: <u9Htb.88279$W7.62467@news.chello.at>   I While playing around with LMF$DISPLAY_OPCOM_MESSAGE, I saw today a lot of 3 OPCOMs. Some are (at least for me) surprising like:   8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2003 09:48:36.62  %%%%%%%%%%%  Message from user SYSTEM on LUNAH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA08.00 use is not authorized on this nodeD -LICENSE-F-NOLICENSE, no license is active for this software product1 -LICENSE-I-SYSMGR, please see your system managerr  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2003 09:48:36.62  %%%%%%%%%%%  Message from user SYSTEM on LUNAH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA08.01 use is not authorized on this nodeD -LICENSE-F-NOLICENSE, no license is active for this software product1 -LICENSE-I-SYSMGR, please see your system managerg   and so on withH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA08.02 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA08.03 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA09.00 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA09.01 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA09.02 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA09.03 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA10.00 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA10.01 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA10.02 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA10.03 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA11.00 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA11.01 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA11.02 use is not authorized on this nodeH %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA11.03 use is not authorized on this node  J I'm running ASOMVMS V7.3-A2 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 and have a license PAK  named PWLMXXXCA07.03 loaded, so:  D 1) it seems, that ASOVMS does a good job for scanning also for newerD PAK versions than the current product requires (you might know, thatB a newer license includes the right to run the older version of theJ product, but it would not work if the product doesn't accept the PAK then)  B 2) it seems, that ASOVMS scans for all license versions regardless0 whether it already found a valid license or not.   Any comments ?   -- P Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERk% Network and OpenVMS system specialistr E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:21:22 -0500e5 From: "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNosp@Mcompaq.com>l, Subject: Re: [ASOVMS V7.3-2] What licenses ?/ Message-ID: <vrfcgnf1ut1n5e@corp.supernews.com>m  H I assume you are only seeing this at startup, right?  I suppose it makesH sense.  I didn't work on any of the licensing code, so, I can't say withI certainty, but, it makes sense that the License Registrar should look for$L all the available licenses.  Is there a more efficient way to do it?  Maybe.E I also think there might be a way to control how many major and minor L versions it looks for, so, if you really wanted to stop this from happening, there might be a way to do it.  E Just curious, how did you set  LMF$DISPLAY_OPCOM_MESSAGE to see thesem	 messages?r   Brad      C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message-+ news:u9Htb.88279$W7.62467@news.chello.at... K > While playing around with LMF$DISPLAY_OPCOM_MESSAGE, I saw today a lot oft5 > OPCOMs. Some are (at least for me) surprising like:c >i: > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2003 09:48:36.62  %%%%%%%%%%%" > Message from user SYSTEM on LUNAJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA08.00 use is not authorized on this nodeF > -LICENSE-F-NOLICENSE, no license is active for this software product3 > -LICENSE-I-SYSMGR, please see your system managera >F: > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2003 09:48:36.62  %%%%%%%%%%%" > Message from user SYSTEM on LUNAJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA08.01 use is not authorized on this nodeF > -LICENSE-F-NOLICENSE, no license is active for this software product3 > -LICENSE-I-SYSMGR, please see your system manager- >- > and so on withJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA08.02 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA08.03 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA09.00 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA09.01 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA09.02 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA09.03 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA10.00 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA10.01 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA10.02 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA10.03 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA11.00 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA11.01 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA11.02 use is not authorized on this nodeJ > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC PWLMXXXCA11.03 use is not authorized on this node >tL > I'm running ASOMVMS V7.3-A2 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 and have a license PAK" > named PWLMXXXCA07.03 loaded, so: >oF > 1) it seems, that ASOVMS does a good job for scanning also for newerF > PAK versions than the current product requires (you might know, thatD > a newer license includes the right to run the older version of theL > product, but it would not work if the product doesn't accept the PAK then) > D > 2) it seems, that ASOVMS scans for all license versions regardless2 > whether it already found a valid license or not. >m > Any comments ? >  > --   > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist5 > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:15:18 GMT36 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER), Subject: Re: [ASOVMS V7.3-2] What licenses ?1 Message-ID: <W8Ptb.99525$W7.47281@news.chello.at>t  g In article <vrfcgnf1ut1n5e@corp.supernews.com>, "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNosp@Mcompaq.com> writes:v5 >I assume you are only seeing this at startup, right?b  I If you assume a period of umpteen minutes for ASOVMS startup, you guessedIM right ;-) It happened way after startup but before I used it (it just happens G to be enabled in the startup) so I can't be sure, what action triggered M the license check. But it probably is some housekeeping work of ASOVMS itself.( because the messages come every 60min...  J >                                                       I suppose it makesI >sense.  I didn't work on any of the licensing code, so, I can't say witheJ >certainty, but, it makes sense that the License Registrar should look forM >all the available licenses.  Is there a more efficient way to do it?  Maybe. F >I also think there might be a way to control how many major and minorM >versions it looks for, so, if you really wanted to stop this from happening,- >there might be a way to do it.-   No, thanks.-K I was just surprised. And I wanted to let some of you be surprised, too ;-)m  F >Just curious, how did you set  LMF$DISPLAY_OPCOM_MESSAGE to see these
 >messages?  B $ DEF/SYS/EX LMF$DISPLAY_OPCOM_MESSAGE logical-translation-ignored   -- i Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.636 ************************