1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 29 Oct 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 600       Contents: Re: A new processor for VMS  RE: A new processor for VMS  A new processor for VMS  Re: A new processor for VMS  Re: A new processor for VMS . Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer. Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer. Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer. Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer. RE: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer. Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer. Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer, C callable routine for sending mail via SMTP0 Re: C callable routine for sending mail via SMTP0 Re: C callable routine for sending mail via SMTP$ Re: Concurrent users from Accounting Daylight Savings + NTP. Re: Daylight to Standard Time Change via Batch@ Re: Did someone ask HP for VAX to Itanium cluster possibilities? Email Server for VMS RE: Email Server for VMS Re: Email Server for VMS Re: EV79 CANCELED !!!!!!!!! 2 Re: forwarding routine in C - Alpha assembly help?2 Re: forwarding routine in C - Alpha assembly help?2 Re: forwarding routine in C - Alpha assembly help?2 Re: forwarding routine in C - Alpha assembly help? FTAM tracing$ Re: How are the sales of VMS going ?$ Re: How are the sales of VMS going ?$ Re: How are the sales of VMS going ? Re: Ignore: Test Only # Live OpenVMS Teleconference/Webcast ' Re: Live OpenVMS Teleconference/Webcast A Mail filters - was Re: [survey] why do you still use VAX systems?  Re: OT: Positions in Europe  Re: Patrol x Decnet Management pthread error message I Re: Question: Linking directories (not quite the same thing, but similar)  Read/Inquire a define/key . Re: SHOW QUOTA - strange result with VMS 7.3-1. Re: SHOW QUOTA - strange result with VMS 7.3-1< Re: Video "ringing" with PBXGA but not Mach64 or Elsa Gloria Re: VMS v8.2 has a name  Re: VMS v8.2 has a name  Re: VMS v8.2 has a name  Re: VMS v8.2 has a name  RE: VMS v8.2 has a name . Re: [survey] why do you still use VAX systems?. RE: [survey] why do you still use VAX systems?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 29 Oct 2003 15:42:39 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)$ Subject: Re: A new processor for VMS: Message-ID: <bnon5d$13vrf1$1@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>  . In article <76Rnb.40123$mZ5.224305@attbi_s54>,5 	Bob WIllard <BobwBSGS@TrashThis.comcast.net> writes:  > John Smith wrote:  >  >> http://www.lenslet.com/ >>  H >> So how long would it take to port VMS to this 256-bit architecture???M >> Ok, so it's a DSP..... but undoubtedly a general-purpose cpu will be built & >> from this technology sometime soon. >>   > E > That DSP is missing a few architectural pieces, so that it would be E > a challenge to port O'VMS: memory mapping and associated protection  > hardware, for starters.   F If its like the last "inovative breakthrough in computing" to come outC of Israeli research I wouldn't hold my breath.  The last one I read D was purely theoretical and upon examination by peers in the industry! turned out to also be impossible.   A I'm expecting them to announce the availability of warpdrive iand  transporters any day now.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:51:49 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> $ Subject: RE: A new processor for VMS9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEJOIFAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message----- 4 >From: Bill Gunshannon [mailto:bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu]* >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:43 AM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com% >Subject: Re: A new processor for VMS  >  > / >In article <76Rnb.40123$mZ5.224305@attbi_s54>, 6 >	Bob WIllard <BobwBSGS@TrashThis.comcast.net> writes: >> John Smith wrote: >>   >>> http://www.lenslet.com/  >>> I >>> So how long would it take to port VMS to this 256-bit architecture??? A >>> Ok, so it's a DSP..... but undoubtedly a general-purpose cpu   >will be built' >>> from this technology sometime soon.   G I don't think so, this is a very special purpose optical processor that D probably just uses convolutional filtering (i.e. Fourier transforms)B and may not be negentropy preserving.  Good for taking pictures of. tall bearded arabs from 200 miles altitude 8-)   >>>  >>  F >> That DSP is missing a few architectural pieces, so that it would beF >> a challenge to port O'VMS: memory mapping and associated protection >> hardware, for starters. > G >If its like the last "inovative breakthrough in computing" to come out D >of Israeli research I wouldn't hold my breath.  The last one I readE >was purely theoretical and upon examination by peers in the industry " >turned out to also be impossible. > B >I'm expecting them to announce the availability of warpdrive iand >transporters any day now. >  >bill  >  >-- K >Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves E >bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.  >University of Scranton   | B >Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>    >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). B >Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:45:33 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>   Subject: A new processor for VMSH Message-ID: <1wPnb.51672$7B1.17726@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   http://www.lenslet.com/   E So how long would it take to port VMS to this 256-bit architecture??? J Ok, so it's a DSP..... but undoubtedly a general-purpose cpu will be built# from this technology sometime soon.   H Maybe we call the version of VMS that runs on this chip OpenVMS XP (xtra performance)  ;-)   D Look at the ECM / EW applications they are promoting their processorH for....goodbye Alpha/VMS and forget IA64/VMS in JStars and probably mostI other government contracts where where Alpha or IA64 would be proposed as J the embedded processor if the performance improvements are as vast as they claim.   ============  L http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20031  029/sc_nm/tech_israel_lenslet_dc  , Israeli Processor Computes at Speed of Light Wed Oct 29, 5:03 AM ET
 By Tova Cohen   J HERZLIYA, Israel (Reuters) - An Israeli start-up has developed a processorK that uses optics instead of silicon, enabling it to compute at the speed of  light, the company said.  L Lenslet said its processor will enable new capabilities in homeland security9 and military, multimedia and communications applications.   H "Optical processing is a strategic competitive advantage for nations andK companies," said Avner Halperin, vice president for business development at  Lenslet.  J "Processing at the speed of light, you can have safer airports, autonomousK military systems, high-definition multimedia broadcast systems and advanced ( next-generation communications systems."  H An optical processor is a digital signal processor (DSP) with an opticalL accelerator attached to it that enables it to perform functions at very high speeds.   K "It is an acceleration of 20 years in the development of digital hardware," G Lenslet founder and Chief Executive Officer Aviram Sariel told Reuters.   H The processor performs 8 trillion operations per second, equivalent to aH super-computer and 1,000 times faster than standard processors, with 256. lasers performing computations at light speed.  J It is geared toward such applications as high resolution radar, electronicB warfare, luggage screening at airports, video compression, weather' forecasting and cellular base stations.   H Lenslet said its Enlight processor, unveiled at the MILCOM exhibition inC Boston this month, is the first commercially available optical DSP.   @ "Optics is the future of every information device," said Sariel.  F Jim Tully, vice president and chief of research for semiconductors andF emerging technologies at Gartner Inc, said most companies working withL optics focus on switching optical signals for telecommunications rather than! processing information optically.   K "I'm not aware of any company that has taken it to the extent of processing  optically," he said.  F Lenslet has raised $27.5 million so far from such investors as GoldmanI Sachs, Walden VC, Germany's Star Ventures and Chicago-based JK&B Capital.   L The company's prototype is fairly large and bulky but when Lenslet begins toK supply the processor in a few months it will be shrunk to 15 x 15 cm with a 3 height of 1.7 cm, roughly the size of a Palm Pilot.   K "In five years we plan to shrink it to a single chip," project manager Asaf  Schlezinger said.   I Tully said one issue is whether this technology can be produced in volume  the way silicon chips are made.   J "Because semiconductor manufacturing technology is well developed, you canI produce millions at quite low cost," said Tully, who is not familiar with  Enlight.  H Lenslet said its processor will be competitive in price with a multi DSP board.  E Sariel is negotiating joint projects with companies and/or government L agencies in the United States, Europe and Japan to produce the processor forK specific applications. It already has projects signed with Israel's Defense 	 Ministry.   L "We don't rule out licensing our technology to others," Sariel said. "We areK looking at a virtual production line where production is done by others and  we provide testing equipment."  K Tully said semiconductor companies are working on technology that would use J optical channels inside a chip to allow very high speed communication from one part of a chip to another.  L "It's conceivable this technology could become mainstream inside chips in 10 years time," Tully said.  
 =============    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:57:27 +0100 ) From: Michael Unger <unger@despammed.com> $ Subject: Re: A new processor for VMS: Message-ID: <bnopc0$13p7gn$2@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  ( On 2003-10-29 14:45, "John Smith" wrote:   > http://www.lenslet.com/  > G > So how long would it take to port VMS to this 256-bit architecture???   < Which constitutes an address space of some 1.2E+77 bytes ...  D The largest SI prefix I could find so far is "Y" ("Yotta") for E+24.  L > Ok, so it's a DSP..... but undoubtedly a general-purpose cpu will be built% > from this technology sometime soon.  > J > Maybe we call the version of VMS that runs on this chip OpenVMS XP (xtra > performance)  ;-)  >  > [...]    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. = My e-mail account at DECUS Munich will expire on 31-Dec-2003.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:34:27 GMT 2 From: Bob WIllard <BobwBSGS@TrashThis.comcast.net>$ Subject: Re: A new processor for VMS. Message-ID: <76Rnb.40123$mZ5.224305@attbi_s54>   John Smith wrote:    > http://www.lenslet.com/  > G > So how long would it take to port VMS to this 256-bit architecture??? L > Ok, so it's a DSP..... but undoubtedly a general-purpose cpu will be built% > from this technology sometime soon.  > J > Maybe we call the version of VMS that runs on this chip OpenVMS XP (xtra > performance)  ;-)  > F > Look at the ECM / EW applications they are promoting their processorJ > for....goodbye Alpha/VMS and forget IA64/VMS in JStars and probably mostK > other government contracts where where Alpha or IA64 would be proposed as L > the embedded processor if the performance improvements are as vast as they > claim. >  > ============ > N > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20031" > 029/sc_nm/tech_israel_lenslet_dc > . > Israeli Processor Computes at Speed of Light > Wed Oct 29, 5:03 AM ET > By Tova Cohen  > L > HERZLIYA, Israel (Reuters) - An Israeli start-up has developed a processorM > that uses optics instead of silicon, enabling it to compute at the speed of  > light, the company said. > N > Lenslet said its processor will enable new capabilities in homeland security; > and military, multimedia and communications applications.  > J > "Optical processing is a strategic competitive advantage for nations andM > companies," said Avner Halperin, vice president for business development at 
 > Lenslet. > L > "Processing at the speed of light, you can have safer airports, autonomousM > military systems, high-definition multimedia broadcast systems and advanced * > next-generation communications systems." > J > An optical processor is a digital signal processor (DSP) with an opticalN > accelerator attached to it that enables it to perform functions at very high	 > speeds.  > M > "It is an acceleration of 20 years in the development of digital hardware," I > Lenslet founder and Chief Executive Officer Aviram Sariel told Reuters.  > J > The processor performs 8 trillion operations per second, equivalent to aJ > super-computer and 1,000 times faster than standard processors, with 2560 > lasers performing computations at light speed. > L > It is geared toward such applications as high resolution radar, electronicD > warfare, luggage screening at airports, video compression, weather) > forecasting and cellular base stations.  > J > Lenslet said its Enlight processor, unveiled at the MILCOM exhibition inE > Boston this month, is the first commercially available optical DSP.  > B > "Optics is the future of every information device," said Sariel. > H > Jim Tully, vice president and chief of research for semiconductors andH > emerging technologies at Gartner Inc, said most companies working withN > optics focus on switching optical signals for telecommunications rather than# > processing information optically.  > M > "I'm not aware of any company that has taken it to the extent of processing  > optically," he said. > H > Lenslet has raised $27.5 million so far from such investors as GoldmanK > Sachs, Walden VC, Germany's Star Ventures and Chicago-based JK&B Capital.  > N > The company's prototype is fairly large and bulky but when Lenslet begins toM > supply the processor in a few months it will be shrunk to 15 x 15 cm with a 5 > height of 1.7 cm, roughly the size of a Palm Pilot.  > M > "In five years we plan to shrink it to a single chip," project manager Asaf  > Schlezinger said.  > K > Tully said one issue is whether this technology can be produced in volume ! > the way silicon chips are made.  > L > "Because semiconductor manufacturing technology is well developed, you canK > produce millions at quite low cost," said Tully, who is not familiar with 
 > Enlight. > J > Lenslet said its processor will be competitive in price with a multi DSP > board. > G > Sariel is negotiating joint projects with companies and/or government N > agencies in the United States, Europe and Japan to produce the processor forM > specific applications. It already has projects signed with Israel's Defense  > Ministry.  > N > "We don't rule out licensing our technology to others," Sariel said. "We areM > looking at a virtual production line where production is done by others and   > we provide testing equipment." > M > Tully said semiconductor companies are working on technology that would use L > optical channels inside a chip to allow very high speed communication from  > one part of a chip to another. > N > "It's conceivable this technology could become mainstream inside chips in 10 > years time," Tully said. >  > =============  >  >   C That DSP is missing a few architectural pieces, so that it would be C a challenge to port O'VMS: memory mapping and associated protection  hardware, for starters.  --   Cheers, Bob    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 08:04:20 +0200C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) 7 Subject: Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer - Message-ID: <3f9f6674$1@news.uni-konstanz.de>   K In article <vpub0ui9d4l7db@corp.supernews.com>, Z  <zarlenga@conan.ids.net>  writes: ! >YYYlmhYYY@cco.caltech.edu wrote: A >: We have a couple of old VAXStations running VMS 5.5.  Our 8mm  J >: Exabyte doesn't work after being 'repaired'.  Is it possible to back upK >>: files by ftp'ing them (thru a Unix machine) to a PC and writing them on  >a   >: CD ?  >  >Yes.  > > >I usually ZIP my stuff up on the VMS box, FTP the ZIP file to? >a PC (use binary or image mode) with a burner and burn the ZIP  >file(s) to CD(s). >  > H >: by type).  However the .sav file would not work (either at default or	 >minimum  G >: 2048 block size) and neither did the .obj file.  [Files transferred   > ? >I have ALWAYS had trouble with VMS savesets ... something goes = >wrong during the FTP and it become completely useless.  What > >really stinks is that you won't find out until you try to use/ >BACKUP on the saveset to extract the contents.  >  > > >Since ZIP and UNZUP are available for VAX and ALPHA, and they >work fine, I use them instead.  > > >One word of caution: make sure you burn the CD as an ISO 9660> >CD and finalize the CD or you may not be able to read it on a
 >VMS machine.  > 2 >PS: I use Nero Burning ROM for making my VMS CDs. >   , To get rid off all file conversion problems:  D Burn CDs under OpenVMS. cdrecord + lddriver is available at no cost.   Eberhard   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:00:23 +0100 - From: "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de> 7 Subject: Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer 9 Message-ID: <bno77f$13593i$1@ID-56200.news.uni-berlin.de>    healyzh@aracnet.com wrote:E > I'm quite honestly not sure about the VAX version of SIMH, however, C > on the PDP-11 Version it is possible to take a SCSI disk from the E > PDP-11, hook it up to a Linux box, use 'dd' to make a disk image of F > the SCSI HD, and then boot the resulting image under SIMH.  The sameG > image can be written to a CD-R and booted on a the original PDP-11 if $ > it is equiped with a CD-ROM drive.  A Yes, this also is possible with SIMH/VAX. You can even build the  B container file on a VMS machine using the $MOUNT/FOREIGN and $COPY! commands that Eberhard mentioned.   8 > The fact of the matter is, I find VAX emulation rather@ > boring, when as a Hobbyist I have about a dozen VAXen.  A niceG > VAXstation 4000 makes a lot more sense to me than trying to emulate a - > VAX (actually I prefer a nice fast Alpha).    4 I rather like it when I boot VMS on my laptop... ;-)   cu,    Martin --  F   OpenVMS:                | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3    The operating system   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de F    God runs the           |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:    earth simulation on.   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:45:49 -0000 ! From: Z  <zarlenga@conan.ids.net> 7 Subject: Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer / Message-ID: <vpva3dshmqi0bc@corp.supernews.com>   D Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann <vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de> wrote:. : To get rid off all file conversion problems:F : Burn CDs under OpenVMS. cdrecord + lddriver is available at no cost.  / CD burners are not (available at no extra cost)    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 06:33:19 -0800. From: al5vf03p02@sneakemail.com (William Webb)7 Subject: Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer = Message-ID: <d5ce4b06.0310290633.42a5cb4d@posting.google.com>   Z "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message news:<3F9EACDA.3070507@MMaz.com>... > John Laird wrote:  > L > >On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:14:00 -0700, "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>	 > >wrote:  > >  > >    > > $ > >>YYYlmhYYY@cco.caltech.edu wrote: > >> > >>     > >>C > >>>We have a couple of old VAXStations running VMS 5.5.  Our 8mm  M > >>>Exabyte doesn't work after being 'repaired'.  Is it possible to back up  O > >>>files by ftp'ing them (thru a Unix machine) to a PC and writing them on a  	 > >>>CD ? O > >>>I have tried ftp'ing several files (text, .obj, .exe, and .sav). It looks  L > >>>like I can make two sets of files, one transferred in ASCII and one in N > >>>binary, and then get back usable files (rather than trying to sort files  > >>>by type).   > >>>  > >>>        > >>> J > >>What I'd do is use ZIP with the "-V" qualifier to retain the VMS file H > >>attributes and you can even go as far as zipping an entire tree and M > >>therefore retail the directory structure.  Once zipped, you can then ftp  $ > >>and burn with minimal worries... > >>     > >> > > L > >There's a lot to be said for creating a backup save-set if the files willN > >ultimately be restored on a VMS system, then zip that.  It's easy to fix upL > >any broken attributes on a single file, and it itself contains redundancy, > >blocks to cover possible data corruption. > >  > >    > > E > Since he stated the destination was a PC for burning, IMHO the ZIP  J > solution was the most 'portable' to assure that later PC / Unix systems G > could read it and yet, if it did ever return to a VMS system, it too  F > could be recovered, without corruption or loss of file attributes... >  > Barry    Excellent suggestion, Barry.  
 Two comments:    E The quotes around "-V" aren't there to make the option stand out from D the rest of the text- uou have to use them in the actual ZIP command/ or else ZIP won't save the VMS file attributes.   > Also, if you've FTP'd a saveset and it's messed up (512/fixed, usually)& there is a DCL command procedure namedC RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_FILE_ATTRIBUTES.COM on the Freeware disks that  fixes things quite nicely:  ? On Freeware 5, Disk 1, the file is in the [000TOOLS] directory.  ========================! William W. Webb- EMS Operations,   OpenVMS Systems Support % USPS DSSC Annex - 4730 Hargrove Road  ( Raleigh, NC 27616-2874 919.325.7500x4186
 * * * -         < email is first initial last name at email stop usps stop gov   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:30:44 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 7 Subject: RE: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMEJKIFAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message----- 6 >From: William Webb [mailto:al5vf03p02@sneakemail.com]* >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:33 AM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com8 >Subject: Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer >  > 8 >"Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message $ >news:<3F9EACDA.3070507@MMaz.com>... >> John Laird wrote: >>  < >> >On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:14:00 -0700, "Barry Treahy, Jr."  ><Treahy@MMaz.com>
 >> >wrote: >> > >> >   >> >% >> >>YYYlmhYYY@cco.caltech.edu wrote:  >> >> 	 >> >>      >> >> D >> >>>We have a couple of old VAXStations running VMS 5.5.  Our 8mm C >> >>>Exabyte doesn't work after being 'repaired'.  Is it possible   >to back up > >> >>>files by ftp'ing them (thru a Unix machine) to a PC and  >writing them on a  
 >> >>>CD ?@ >> >>>I have tried ftp'ing several files (text, .obj, .exe, and  >.sav). It looks  B >> >>>like I can make two sets of files, one transferred in ASCII  >and one in D >> >>>binary, and then get back usable files (rather than trying to  >sort files  >> >>>by type).    >> >>> >> >>>       >> >>>K >> >>What I'd do is use ZIP with the "-V" qualifier to retain the VMS file  I >> >>attributes and you can even go as far as zipping an entire tree and  A >> >>therefore retail the directory structure.  Once zipped, you   >can then ftp % >> >>and burn with minimal worries... 	 >> >>      >> >>  >> >C >> >There's a lot to be said for creating a backup save-set if the   >files will A >> >ultimately be restored on a VMS system, then zip that.  It's   >easy to fix up C >> >any broken attributes on a single file, and it itself contains   >redundancy - >> >blocks to cover possible data corruption.  >> > >> >   >> >F >> Since he stated the destination was a PC for burning, IMHO the ZIP K >> solution was the most 'portable' to assure that later PC / Unix systems  H >> could read it and yet, if it did ever return to a VMS system, it too G >> could be recovered, without corruption or loss of file attributes...  >>   >> Barry >  >Excellent suggestion, Barry.  >  >Two comments: >   F >The quotes around "-V" aren't there to make the option stand out fromE >the rest of the text- uou have to use them in the actual ZIP command 0 >or else ZIP won't save the VMS file attributes.  D Isn't this the same as ZIP/VMS?  BTW, I note that ZIP.EXE is missingB in [FREEWARE50.000TOOLS.ALPHA_IMAGES]  bur is present on the 40 CD   > ? >Also, if you've FTP'd a saveset and it's messed up (512/fixed, 	 >usually) ' >there is a DCL command procedure named D >RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_FILE_ATTRIBUTES.COM on the Freeware disks that >fixes things quite nicely:  > @ >On Freeware 5, Disk 1, the file is in the [000TOOLS] directory. >======================== " >William W. Webb- EMS Operations,  >OpenVMS Systems Support  & >USPS DSSC Annex - 4730 Hargrove Road ) >Raleigh, NC 27616-2874 919.325.7500x4186  >* * * -       > = >email is first initial last name at email stop usps stop gov  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). B >Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 13:56:51 +0200C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) 7 Subject: Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer - Message-ID: <3f9fb913$1@news.uni-konstanz.de>   2 In article <vpva3dshmqi0bc@corp.supernews.com>, Z  <zarlenga@conan.ids.net> writes: E >Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann <vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de> wrote: / >: To get rid off all file conversion problems: G >: Burn CDs under OpenVMS. cdrecord + lddriver is available at no cost.  > 0 >CD burners are not (available at no extra cost) >   ? Ah, I thought you must pay for CD burners in any case, not not? = If you have one, think about howto connect the with your VAX. = A SCSI controller is the only requirement. SCSI-IDE-Converter ) are available in order to use IDE-drives  ! (CD-R(W)/DVD+-RW/DVD-RAM drives).    eberhard   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:47:06 -0500 & From: David M Smith <dsmit115@csc.com>7 Subject: Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer 8 Message-ID: <uhrvpv41huvf3hbopvfqh6l3jb30rappu2@4ax.com>  H On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:30:44 -0800, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote:   G >>The quotes around "-V" aren't there to make the option stand out from F >>the rest of the text- uou have to use them in the actual ZIP command1 >>or else ZIP won't save the VMS file attributes.  > E >Isn't this the same as ZIP/VMS?  BTW, I note that ZIP.EXE is missing C >in [FREEWARE50.000TOOLS.ALPHA_IMAGES]  bur is present on the 40 CD   M Yes, as long as you are using the "ZIP CLI" version of the executable. Hunter M Goatley packages this one. The "-V" will work with either the "UNIX-style" of  the "ZIP CLI" image.I ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I David M. Smith 302.391.8533                       dsmit115 at csc dot com I Computer Sciences Corporation     (Opinions are those of the writer only) I -------------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:25:17 -0500 . From: "Jerry Alan Braga" <jabraga@flanagan.ca>5 Subject: C callable routine for sending mail via SMTP / Message-ID: <W5Qnb.114$s8.1944@news.on.tac.net>   J Does anyone have a sample of how to call SMTP mail via applications.  This would be similar to doing the    telnet/port=25 server.com  helo mail form: etc.   E I would like to call this as a function by passing the email_address, 
 subject, body   I The problem I seem to have is that mail$routines do not work with message  body's > 255 chars   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:53:04 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG9 Subject: Re: C callable routine for sending mail via SMTP 0 Message-ID: <00A2818A.EAD48285@SendSpamHere.ORG>  ` In article <W5Qnb.114$s8.1944@news.on.tac.net>, "Jerry Alan Braga" <jabraga@flanagan.ca> writes:K >Does anyone have a sample of how to call SMTP mail via applications.  This  >would be similar to doing the >  >telnet/port=25 server.com >helo  >mail form: etc. > F >I would like to call this as a function by passing the email_address, >subject, body > J >The problem I seem to have is that mail$routines do not work with message >body's > 255 chars  >  >    Which TCP/IP stack?    --  L VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM             5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:33:03 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@PROBE.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)9 Subject: Re: C callable routine for sending mail via SMTP . Message-ID: <bnp14v$2v5$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   "Jerry Alan Braga" <jabraga@flanagan.ca> writes in article <W5Qnb.114$s8.1944@news.on.tac.net> dated Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:25:17 -0500: J >The problem I seem to have is that mail$routines do not work with message >body's > 255 chars   H I think that's the max length for one "record" (line) in a message.  YouL should break it up into more lines, either by calling MAIL$SEND_ADD_BODYPARTG more than once or by passing in a long list of MAIL$_SEND_RECORD parts.   D I do have an example procedure, but it was designed to send one-lineK messages so it's probably not any better than what you have.  It's in PL/I.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:20:43 -0500 < From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>- Subject: Re: Concurrent users from Accounting : Message-ID: <bnp0ds$1478v5$1@ID-141708.news.uni-berlin.de>   Rob Young wrote:< > I'm trying to determine a way to find out concurrent users > at a certain time. > < > Question:  Using accounting how to get concurrent users at 10 a.m.? >...  > The only way I found to do this is write a program to read the= accounting file and compare the login and logout times to the < time you want. If you find a record then write it to another> file and then use ACCOUNTING to get what you want from the new; file. I do not have the program I wrote any more, but there = have been at 2 or 3 times in the last few years that I wished  that I still had the program.    --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 05:40:04 -0800. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) Subject: Daylight Savings + NTP = Message-ID: <f30679fb.0310290540.6428f1ff@posting.google.com>   1 I solved my Daylight Savings problem defining the 2 logical name: SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL = "-7200".$ By the way I updated the time using:   $ ntpdate "myntpnode"    But I did it manually ...   ? So, why  the NTP service didnt  change the time ?  I configured ? the peers in the .CONF file and restarted it several times....    6 My UCX is 5.0A. My NTP Servers are Windows NT Servers.   Regards    FC   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:36:23 -0500 & From: David M Smith <dsmit115@csc.com>7 Subject: Re: Daylight to Standard Time Change via Batch 8 Message-ID: <gtqvpv0elkr16o6c7tr2ejm3q2ud7d5toj@4ax.com>  F On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:30:21 GMT, hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote: > H >  Have you considered using the example DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM procedure?  O Yes, I did consider using DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM but, for reasons explained in my I subsequent, more detailed posting in this same thread, I could not use it P directly. Primarily because I need to control non-HP (3rd party) software aroundH the time change, and DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS does not have any "hooks" for site customization.  H >  With V7.3 (get the TDF ECO for that release, too) and later releases,J >  you can also choose to enable and use the automatic mechanism to changeK >  the DST setting, as all layered applications should defer to the OpenVMSt5 >  DST and TDF mechanisms in V7.3 and later releases.s  L Are the details of this mechanism documented anywhere? Is it likely that 3rd. party vendors will "hook in" to the mechanism?  J Regardless, in my environment I have mixed-architecture (Alpha and VAX) soM cannot use the AUTO_DLIGHT_SAVINGS mechanism on the VAX system and have to doi something else.   G >  There's a substantial section on this and related topics in the FAQ.t  L I read it. Due to the complications I described above and in another post, I1 could not use the mechanism as you documented it. I ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I David M. Smith 302.391.8533                       dsmit115 at csc dot com I Computer Sciences Corporation     (Opinions are those of the writer only) I -------------------------------------------------------------------------r   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:06:33 -0000r( From: "John Travell" <john@jomatech.com>I Subject: Re: Did someone ask HP for VAX to Itanium cluster possibilities?e: Message-ID: <bnnvuu$13q8pf$1@ID-120847.news.uni-berlin.de>   "Hoff Hoffman"  wrote  > --L >   Are y'all coming down to the technical bootcamp to learn more about what4 >   we are really up to here in OpenVMS Engineering?  L I wish I could, but finance is an issue. If someone else were paying I wouldL love to attend. As it is, I have other (less interesting) engagements on the 14th...h     -- John Travell" Independent VMS crashdump analyst. john- at - jomatech - dot - come +44-(0)23-92552229 http://www.jomatech.com/       --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27/10/2003-   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:31:52 -0500s From: "John" <me@hair.net> Subject: Email Server for VMSS. Message-ID: <86Rnb.13077$d87.11601@okepread05>  I We are in the process of moving our web/email from MS to VMS. We have the<J web running on Apache and would like to get a Email server that would work with Outlook clients.   I Also would like the ability to check the email remotely, we currently use>- Outlook Web Access which works with Exchange.a   Any ideas & help appreciated.f   John   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:54:24 -0800u# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ! Subject: RE: Email Server for VMSp9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEKBIFAA.tom@kednos.com>   L I use MX5.3 under 7.3 see www.madgoat.com  and alternative to Apache is WASD   >-----Original Message-----y  >From: John [mailto:me@hair.net]* >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:32 AM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com >Subject: Email Server for VMS >' >xJ >We are in the process of moving our web/email from MS to VMS. We have theK >web running on Apache and would like to get a Email server that would workk >with Outlook clients. > J >Also would like the ability to check the email remotely, we currently use. >Outlook Web Access which works with Exchange. >  >Any ideas & help appreciated. >  >John- >- >- >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.:; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).RB >Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003 >o ---n& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:46:53 -07005+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>@! Subject: Re: Email Server for VMSJ' Message-ID: <3FA00B1D.2050409@MMaz.com>n   John wrote:   J >We are in the process of moving our web/email from MS to VMS. We have theK >web running on Apache and would like to get a Email server that would workb >with Outlook clients. >oJ >Also would like the ability to check the email remotely, we currently use. >Outlook Web Access which works with Exchange. >l >  e >gG Though I have never used it, we're Linux/sendmail based for our e-mail,oE I believe Process Software has a complete messaging product that also F has integrated anti-spam features... I'd start there as I believe mostE other open source type solutions for VMS might leave you on the short B side of Outlook compatibility and even with Process, you will most- likely loose calendering and other 'stuff'...    Barrya   -- e  > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:56:01 -0500l% From: Howard Shubs <howard@shubs.net> $ Subject: Re: EV79 CANCELED !!!!!!!!!< Message-ID: <howard-7E4D6E.07560129102003@enews.newsguy.com>  ) In article <3F9F46BB.319A705A@istop.com>,o,  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:  K > At least, if they had done EV7 and EV79 right, it would have helped build O > badly needed trust between HP and its newsly acquired customers. Purposefully A > limiting Alpha to save Carly's butt is very bad for HP's image.g  H Her "image" and HPs are already dead, from my company's point of view.  $ We're dropping HP as fast as we can.   -- bD You are what you eat, therefore, I'm a vegetable!  Cows and chickens and Pop Tarts are too.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:45:21 +0100eD From: Thierry Lelegard <thierry.lelegard.NOSPAM@cptechno.NOSPAM.com>; Subject: Re: forwarding routine in C - Alpha assembly help?o3 Message-ID: <3F9F7E21.657A816C@cptechno.NOSPAM.com>?  C > I want to hook into all calls to fopen (which are really calls toeD > DECC$FOPEN) and instrument some logging, then call the real fopen.  A Have a look at CallMon, it does exactly that: intercept all calls B to a routine in a shareable image, call a user-defined pre-routineD with the argument list, call the actual routine, call a user-defined
 post-routine.   B I wrote that almost 10 years ago but I should still work. It is inG the Freeware CD: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/callmon/y  
 Good luck, -Thierry   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:43:19 GMTm" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG; Subject: Re: forwarding routine in C - Alpha assembly help? 0 Message-ID: <00A28170.6876D54D@SendSpamHere.ORG>  q In article <477e0934.0310282236.64277434@posting.google.com>, usenet_vms@lehrerfamily.com (Joshua Lehrer) writes:tB >VMS's Alpha version of fopen (from C) takes 2 or more parameters. >sB >I want to hook into all calls to fopen (which are really calls toC >DECC$FOPEN) and instrument some logging, then call the real fopen.s >sF >I was able to get my hook in, log, then call the real function, givenC >that I was called with two parameters.  However, as I said, on theoA >Alpha, you can supply any additional parameters to fopen.  TheseoB >parameters are passed along to RMS.  For example, you can pass in >"shr=get".  >tC >Is there a way, perhaps using inline assembly, that I can call theiD >real DECC$FOPEN, telling it to use all of the parameters that I wasF >passed?  Effectively, I'd like a jump statement to jump directly intoF >DECC$FOPEN, leaving the return address, argument count, etc... in allE >of the appropriate registers and stack locations.  Is this possible?    Yes.  B If you modify the protections of the DECC$FOPEN instruction streamD pages, you can insert four Alpha instructions to implement an inter-3 cept.  Works for any routine you want to intercept.t  E If you get "creative" when linking, you can cause your own DECC$FOPEN 9 to be called and then have it invoke the real DECC$FOPEN.w   --  L VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM             5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" s   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 07:48:04 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)d; Subject: Re: forwarding routine in C - Alpha assembly help?c3 Message-ID: <HhZF7v1ecq+y@eisner.encompasserve.org>   q In article <477e0934.0310282236.64277434@posting.google.com>, usenet_vms@lehrerfamily.com (Joshua Lehrer) writes: C > VMS's Alpha version of fopen (from C) takes 2 or more parameters.p > C > I want to hook into all calls to fopen (which are really calls toaD > DECC$FOPEN) and instrument some logging, then call the real fopen. > G > I was able to get my hook in, log, then call the real function, givenaD > that I was called with two parameters.  However, as I said, on theB > Alpha, you can supply any additional parameters to fopen.  TheseC > parameters are passed along to RMS.  For example, you can pass ink > "shr=get". > D > Is there a way, perhaps using inline assembly, that I can call theE > real DECC$FOPEN, telling it to use all of the parameters that I was G > passed?  Effectively, I'd like a jump statement to jump directly intolG > DECC$FOPEN, leaving the return address, argument count, etc... in alloF > of the appropriate registers and stack locations.  Is this possible?  ?    Get out your Macro-64 manual and your Alpha calling standardn7    reference and write yourself a null frame procedure.i  G    Then wonder why you're programmng in C, which has such limited macroc    capability.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 09:02:09 -08001 From: usenet_vms@lehrerfamily.com (Joshua Lehrer)h; Subject: Re: forwarding routine in C - Alpha assembly help?i= Message-ID: <477e0934.0310290902.1d8967d0@posting.google.com>e   Thierry Lelegard <thierry.lelegard.NOSPAM@cptechno.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<3F9F7E21.657A816C@cptechno.NOSPAM.com>... E > > I want to hook into all calls to fopen (which are really calls toIF > > DECC$FOPEN) and instrument some logging, then call the real fopen. > C > Have a look at CallMon, it does exactly that: intercept all calls-D > to a routine in a shareable image, call a user-defined pre-routineF > with the argument list, call the actual routine, call a user-defined > post-routine.2 > D > I wrote that almost 10 years ago but I should still work. It is inI > the Freeware CD: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/callmon/  >  > Good luck,
 > -Thierry  E Thank you.  This is *almost* exactly what I am looking for.  The only C problem we have with this is that it does not support dynamic image F activation.  The image list is grabbed when the system is initialized.E  Our system makes very heavy use of dynamic image activation - we cansC not simply relink our mainprog to activate all images at link time.-  A What I need is for CallMon to hook into the lib$find_image_symboliF routine and, as a post processing step, re-read the active image list.@  I then need to get the current jackets reapplied to all the new  images that were just activated.  F Is this possible?  I guess as a first step, all I really need is a wayF to tell CallMon to re-read the active image list.  If I had that, thenC I could monitor all calls to lib$find_image_symbol, tell CallMon toVA re-read the active image list, and reapply all of my instrumentedo- functions (I'd need to keep the list myself).w  C Does this sound like a difficult feature for you to add?  Or, could  you tell me how to add it?   Thanks for your help  
 joshua lehrert factset reseach systemss NYSE:FDS   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:58:42 +0200  From: "puff" <me@test.com> Subject: FTAM tracingC5 Message-ID: <1067428707.84732@thezone.swistgroup.com>    Hi  J I would like to perform FTAM tracing for an application, but would like to3 test it first. The tests have been done as follows:b   1. $ DEFINE OSAK_TRACE ONd< 2. $ COPY/APPL=FTAM NODE1"xxx xxx"::[]LOGIN.COM []LOGIN.TEST  J As I understand from the DECnet documentation, a .BIN trace file should beK written to the current directory, but it does not get written. Anything I'm  missing?   Thanks Christoa   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Oct 2003 23:52:36 -0800. From: mistdragon@zdnetonebox.com (mist dragon)- Subject: Re: How are the sales of VMS going ?s= Message-ID: <7500353b.0310282352.63e7591f@posting.google.com>h  N > Bill and JF spread FUD over everything/anything, it's nothing new.  The factN > that EV79 is now EV7z (it won't be in the process we planned) is pretty much' > a non-issue to most real customers.  t  ) And what research is that fact based on ?   ! Feedback on the current EV7 based M > systems from customers is that it has given them more performance than theye > expected.y   Compared to what ? r  K > Nobody is trying to "shut anyone down" who we haven't wanted to leave fors5 > years.  It's just the same old crap, different day.s  = If thats no issue, why are you so hard trying to nail them ? )   M    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 00:18:28 -0800. From: mistdragon@zdnetonebox.com (mist dragon)- Subject: Re: How are the sales of VMS going ?f= Message-ID: <7500353b.0310290018.1f43c19c@posting.google.com>i  N > Bill and JF spread FUD over everything/anything, it's nothing new.  The factN > that EV79 is now EV7z (it won't be in the process we planned) is pretty much' > a non-issue to most real customers.  o  $ Because there are so very few left ?   Mi   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:19:04 -0700a+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>o- Subject: Re: How are the sales of VMS going ?b' Message-ID: <3F9FDA68.4090506@MMaz.com>l   JF Mezei wrote:e   >Fred Kleinsorge wrote:o >    >oE >>Bill and JF spread FUD over everything/anything, it's nothing new.   >>     >> >eM >You can blast me as much as you want.  But consider this: if all your formerdM >customers who were forced off VMS because of Digital/Compaq/HP policies wererC >to come back to haunt you on this newsgroup, you'd be praising me.n >pK >Not everyone has loyalty levels so high that we are willing to criticise at4 >vendor for the good of the product we are loyal to. >kM >This is something HP management don't understand. Customers may have extremeaN >loyalty to VMS, but to transfer that loyalty to HP loyalty, it takes a lot ofK >work, and that is something which HP isn't doing. I have 0 loyalty to HP. r >tH I often do not agree with JF, but in this respect, I do!  This not only G applies to HP, but also to the prior Compaq relationship, if you could oI even call it that.  HP doesn't recognize, nor understand, that I have PC tI vendors, I do not need them for that, only printers, test equipment (now  E via Agilent) and VMS related products and as it stands now, they are nE doing little to develop loyalty in two of those three product groups.t   Barryc   -- t  > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                            ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:53:26 +0000 , From: Adrian Birkett <aaa@notreallyhere.com> Subject: Re: Ignore: Test Only1 Message-ID: <3F9FD466.422432A5@notreallyhere.com>s   Any relation to Todd ??    ;-)i       Tapani Rundgren wrote:   > Test of news account settingsr   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:18:07 GMTo# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>p, Subject: Live OpenVMS Teleconference/WebcastH Message-ID: <3LRnb.52634$7B1.38901@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  E http://www.encompassus.org/community/sigs/openvmswebcast10-30-03.htmln    9 Does anyone know the date on which this link went 'live'.nJ I missed it when it was first posted and now don't have enough time to getC some customers (existing and NEW) to schedule time to listen to it.u   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:47:42 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>r0 Subject: Re: Live OpenVMS Teleconference/Webcast% Message-ID: <3FA00B4E.30007@MMaz.com>0   John Smith wrote:c  F >http://www.encompassus.org/community/sigs/openvmswebcast10-30-03.html >u >M: >Does anyone know the date on which this link went 'live'.K >I missed it when it was first posted and now don't have enough time to getlD >some customers (existing and NEW) to schedule time to listen to it. >  a >aC I believe that Sue, and others, posted this well over a week ago...e   Barry    -- e  > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                        a   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:45:13 GMTt# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>eJ Subject: Mail filters - was Re: [survey] why do you still use VAX systems?H Message-ID: <dgRnb.52458$7B1.14201@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   Tom Linden wrote:wE > I switched from tcpip$smtp 5.1 to MX5.3 about about a month ago andmD > so far I have managed to reduce the spam to a trickle mostly pillsH > of some kind.  Haven't figure out how to filter them because they keep" > changing the name, e.g. V| ag ra >bA > Got rid of all the Microsoft update viruses, which at one point  > actually filled up a disks > H > MX has a lot more capability than TCPIP when it comes to filtering and% > configuring.  I would recommend it.     K My filter strategy is to deal with messages from known/valid senders first,lG ie. friends, work-related, newsletters I subscribe to, on-line stores IaK patronize, etc.. In this way I can let authorized senders from France to beeL saved early in the filter process while unauthorized senders from France areJ trashed later on in the process. Thereafter I use the following filters toI deal with the junk. These filters are about 99.99% effective in filtering K junk directly to trash, but I still visually scan the Trash before I deleteeJ it to ensure that mail from new people I need to correspond with don't get accidentally trashed.u  H Here are some e-mail filters that work for me when using Eudora on a PC.H I've excerpted these partial rules from my filters file, so please don'tJ consider them to be complete and useable in their current form in any mail server/client.  G Eudora uses POSIX regular expression rules, and a large number of thesenK filters are based on regular expressions. Some need a little cleaning up to L be 100% correctly formatted, ie. I get lazy and don't usually escape "\" the
 dot in '.com'b  F Here are the Eurora [posix] regular expression sequences to aid you in following the filters below:  ( . (period) represents any one character.J [ ] (brackets) contain a set of characters from which a match can be made.5 It corresponds to one character in the search string. H \ (backslash) is an escape character which means that the next character  will not have a special meaning.I * (asterisk) is a multiplier.  It will match zero or more of the previousaG character.  (Note that it's not a wildcard character as in file names.) D ? (question mark) is a multiplier.  It will match zero or one of theH previous character.  (Note that it's not a wildcard character as in file names.)sD + (plus) is a multiplier.  It will match one or more of the previous
 character.K { } (squiggly brackets) contain a number which specifies an exact number ofS the previous character.aI [^] (brackets containing caret and other characters) means any characters ? except the character(s) after the caret symbol in the brackets.0$ ^  (caret) is the start of the line." $ (dollar) is the end of the line." \< represents the start of a word.  \> represents the end of a word.+ [:alpha:] represents any alphabetic letter.J- [:digit:] represents any single-digit number.9$ [:blank:] represents a space or tab.I | (pipe) is OR.  It requires that the joined expressions have parentheses< around them.   Here are a few usage examples:  & E.*a      matches Eudora, Etcetera, Ea/ ho+p      matches hop, hoop, hoooop, but not hpV" etc\.     matches etc. but not etcG e.a       matches eta, eda, e1a; it only matches Eta if the matching isb case-insensitive [eE].a    matches eta and Eta   E In the filters below, 'regex_icase' means match the following regulartG expression while ignoring case. Some rules have two conditions that are  OR'd.e  H If you use a PC, Eudora v6.0 has a pretty good Bayesian filter for junk,5 which obviates the need for most manual rule writing.i  < Hope these may be of some use with MX or other mail servers.    C ===================================================================r   Blocked Countries [TLD's]    ruleL From:(\.bn[>$]|\.bz[>$]|\.cn[>$]|\.cz[>$]|\.dk[>$]|\.ee[>$]|\.fr[>$]|\.gr[>$ ]|\.hu[>$])  transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header From: verb regex_icase valueeL (\.bn[>$]|\.bz[>$]|\.cn[>$]|\.cz[>$]|\.dk[>$]|\.ee[>$]|\.fr[>$]|\.gr[>$]|\.h u[>$])     ruleL From:(\.it[>$]|\.jp[>$]|\.kr[>$]|\.nz[>$]|\.pk[>$]|\.ro[>$]|\.ru[>$]|\.ua[>$ ]|\.us[>$]|\.uy[>$]|\.za[>$])f transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header From: verb regex_icase value L (\.it[>$]|\.jp[>$]|\.kr[>$]|\.nz[>$]|\.pk[>$]|\.ro[>$]|\.ru[>$]|\.ua[>$]|\.u s[>$]|\.uy[>$]|\.za[>$])           Common Header Conditions   rule Subject:[.]{3}d transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:t verb regex_icase value [.]{3}   incoming header Subject:i
 verb !appears. value  conjunction ignore header
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 verb containsr
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 verb regex value ^$ conjunction ignore header
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 rule Date: transfer Trash.mbx stop   incoming manual header Date:
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 verb contains: value0# rule Any Header(php/libmail|MIME)c transfer Trash.mbx stop   incoming manual header Any Headers verb regex_icase value (php/libmail|MIME) conjunction ignore header
 verb contains  valueW stop       Blocked Domains2   rule Any Header9tel.nete transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headere verb regex_icase value 9tel.net conjunction ignore header
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 verb containse value   	 rule AnyeL Header(adprosolutions.com|adzines.com|alaska.net|amazingofferings.com|asean
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 verb containsy value   C rule Any Header(bellsouth.net|bestemailsoftware.com|bulgaloo.com)" transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headera verb regex_icase8 value (bellsouth.net|bestemailsoftware.com|bulgaloo.com) conjunction ignore header
 verb containsc value   	 rule AnydL Header(canoemail.com|cecity.com|centralbank.com|china.com|ClickBoost.com|co dborn.net|consultant.com)k transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Header  verb regex_icase valueaL (canoemail.com|cecity.com|centralbank.com|china.com|ClickBoost.com|codborn.n et|consultant.com) conjunction ignore header
 verb containse valueo  $ rule Any Header(cm02.net|cm03.net) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any Header  verb regex_icase value (cm02.net|cm03.net)a conjunction ignore header
 verb containsu value   G rule Any Header(dbhits|dealmate.com|desertmail.com|dotbizauction.com)o transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Header> verb regex_icase< value (dbhits|dealmate.com|desertmail.com|dotbizauction.com) conjunction ignore header
 verb containso value   ' rule Any Header(.email.com|ew01.com)$o transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any Headers verb regex_icase value (.email.com|ew01.com)$ conjunction ignore header
 verb containss valueg   rule Any Headerfuse.netH transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any HeaderP verb regex_icase value fuse.net conjunction ignore header
 verb containsm valuec  ' rule Any Headerhispeedmediaoffers.comT transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headery verb regex_icase value hispeedmediaoffers.com conjunction ignore header
 verb contains= value    rule Any Header@india.como transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headere verb regex_icase value @india.com conjunction ignore header
 verb containsi value    rule Any Headerjump.neto transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any Headeri verb regex_icase value jump.net conjunction ignore header
 verb containsr value.  * rule Any Header(kingsnake.com|krazykash) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headere verb regex_icase value (kingsnake.com|krazykash). conjunction ignore header
 verb containsR valueD  	 rule Any0H Header(@mail.com|mailcity.com|@mails.ch|marketingontarget.net|mb00.net) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any Headerr verb regex_icaseG value (@mail.com|mailcity.com|@mails.ch|marketingontarget.net|mb00.net)$ conjunction ignore header
 verb containsa value0  < rule Any Header(monsterhut.com|mundomail.net|mustplay.com) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headero verb regex_icase1 value (monsterhut.com|mundomail.net|mustplay.com)n conjunction ignore header
 verb containsl value   8 rule Any Header[|netscape.com|netscape.net|@nsmex.com] transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headert verb regex_icase- value [|netscape.com|netscape.net|@nsmex.com]V conjunction ignore header
 verb containsm valueS  C rule Any Header(offermonkey.com|@ombramarketing.com|omessage.com)D transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Header- verb regex_icase8 value (offermonkey.com|@ombramarketing.com|omessage.com) conjunction ignore header
 verb containse value   ; rule Any Header(paid4survey.net|premio.com|publisher.com)u transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headero verb regex_icase0 value (paid4survey.net|premio.com|publisher.com) conjunction ignore header
 verb containso valuee   rule Any Header.qves.net transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headerb verb regex_icase value .qves.net  conjunction ignore header
 verb containsn value   = rule Any Header(@regtoday.com|real-net.net|rslartunion.com)  transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headeru verb regex_icase2 value (@regtoday.com|real-net.net|rslartunion.com) conjunction ignore header
 verb containsg value-  	 rule Any-L Header(sampleclub.net|savermail.com|sbase22.com|sbase30.com|schweiz.org|ser  veimage.com|sfibusinessmall.com) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any HeaderO verb regex_icase valuewL (sampleclub.net|savermail.com|sbase22.com|sbase30.com|schweiz.org|serveimage .com|sfibusinessmall.com)- conjunction ignore header
 verb contains0 value   	 rule Any L Header(space.com|ss01.net|subdimension.com|Sudanmail.com|superemailbargains )  transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Header  verb regex_icaseL value (space.com|ss01.net|subdimension.com|Sudanmail.com|superemailbargains) conjunction ignore header
 verb contains  valuea  	 rule Any L Header(timesavrd.com|tonelink.net|torpedomail.com|truthmail.com|tsvdt.com|t
 urbomail.net)  transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Header  verb regex_icase valueaL (timesavrd.com|tonelink.net|torpedomail.com|truthmail.com|tsvdt.com|turbomai l.net) conjunction ignore header
 verb containsc value   3 rule Any Header(@usa.net|ustforyounewsletter.com)8 transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headers verb regex_icase( value (@usa.net|ustforyounewsletter.com) conjunction ignore header
 verb containsl valuem   rule Any Headervjtimail.comu transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Header  verb regex_icase value vjtimail.com conjunction ignore header
 verb containsm valuer  6 rule Any Header(webdeals.net|wowmail.com|wsn100.com) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Header  verb regex_icase+ value (webdeals.net|wowmail.com|wsn100.com)e conjunction ignore header
 verb containsS valueM   rule From:yahoo.com  transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header From: verb regex_icase value yahoo.coma conjunction ignore header
 verb contains  valuee   rule Any Headeryourwap.com transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any Headera verb regex_icase value yourwap.coms conjunction ignore header
 verb containsr valuen     Junk Mail Keywords* These are not organized alphabetically :-(H It's a good idea to add your own surname in these to filter out messagesK that contain your surname in the subject line as these are almost 100% junktJ messages. Some keywords have leading and/or trailing spaces to ensure thatJ otherwise legitimate words that begin or end with the same letters are notG accidentally trashed (eg. Peacock and Cockerham are legitmate surnames)e  # rule Personality(pine|perl|webtv)o transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Personality
 verb containsv value (pine|perl|webtv)e conjunction ignore header
 verb containsg valueb  K rule Any Header(crusher|blow job|x.10|blowjob|vitamin|approved|home loan|-$ teen |bowflex|bad credit|vegas|diet) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any Headerv verb regex_icaseE value (crusher|blow job|x.10|blowjob|vitamin|approved|home loan| teen4 |bowflex|bad credit|vegas|diet)d conjunction ignore header
 verb containse value   " rule Any Header(cigarette|elvis) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Any Headern verb regex_icase value (cigarette|elvis)y conjunction ignore header
 verb containst valuet   ruleL Subject:(refinance|regain|penis|weight|casino|singles|dick|butt|troops|aging |diet|prozac| HGH |sensual)i transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:t verb regex_icase valueiL (refinance|regain|penis|weight|casino|singles|dick|butt|troops|aging|diet|pr ozac| HGH |sensual)e conjunction ignore header
 verb containse valuem  - rule Subject:(financing|franchise|francising|cH hair|sweaty|H_G_H|cartridge|tanning|wrinkle|breasts|tarot|surplus|credit card)- transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Subject:a verb regex_icase& value (financing|franchise|francising|H hair|sweaty|H_G_H|cartridge|tanning|wrinkle|breasts|tarot|surplus|credit card)  conjunction ignore header
 verb containsn value   1 rule Subject:(pay-per-view| anal |realestate| inky; jet|ink_jet|horny|prescription|inkjet|younger| bald| porn )  transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:i verb regex_icase* value (pay-per-view| anal |realestate| ink; jet|ink_jet|horny|prescription|inkjet|younger| bald| porn ). conjunction ignore header
 verb contains  valued  F rule Subject:(pharmacy|pharmacies| coed |valium| fat |medication| long distance|credit report)  transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:a verb regex_icase? value (pharmacy|pharmacies| coed |valium| fat |medication| longo distance|credit report)  conjunction ignore header
 verb contains  value   ; rule Subject:( sex|mortgage| loan|no obligation|visa| irs |O. love|catv|babe|christ|gang bang|chicks|spying) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:s verb regex_icase4 value ( sex|mortgage| loan|no obligation|visa| irs |. love|catv|babe|christ|gang bang|chicks|spying) conjunction ignore header
 verb containsc valuea  L rule Subject:(healthcare|iraq| age | pasta | youth | adult | easter |christ|% erols| bikini | ink | staffing | pda)e transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:  verb regex_icaseL value (healthcare|iraq| age | pasta | youth | adult | easter |christ| erols| bikini | ink | staffing | pda) conjunction ignore header
 verb contains  values  C rule Subject:(explicit| meds |mastercard|herbal|awesome| mood|extral  cash|cable tv|depression|urgent) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:m verb regex_icaseG value (explicit| meds |mastercard|herbal|awesome| mood|extra cash|cablei tv|depression|urgent)d conjunction ignore header
 verb containss valuet  J rule Subject:(free quote|advertising| nba | nfl |disney|fuck|fucking| cock% |pay per|botox| suck|prophecy| stud )n transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:d verb regex_icaseH value (free quote|advertising| nba | nfl |disney|fuck|fucking| cock |pay  per|botox| suck|prophecy| stud ) conjunction ignore header
 verb containso valueS   ruleL Subject:(facial|viagra|spyware|payday|descrambler|bingo|dial-up|pornstar|qwe st|erectile| {4}|gangbang) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Subject:- verb regex_icase valuecL (facial|viagra|spyware|payday|descrambler|bingo|dial-up|pornstar|qwest|erect ile| {4}|gangbang) conjunction ignore header
 verb contains  value-   rule Subject:(. . .-L .|hottiesimpotent|impotence|pilates|orgasm|fisting|golf|phonics|candle|wease l|insights| gag )n transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Subject:t verb regex_icase value (. . .L .|hottiesimpotent|impotence|pilates|orgasm|fisting|golf|phonics|candle|wease l|insights| gag )s conjunction ignore header
 verb containsa value   & rule Subject:(lose weight|weight loss) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual header Subject: 
 verb regex value (lose weight|weight loss). conjunction ignore header
 verb containsd valueF  2 rule Body(e*Biz Media Group|viagra| free sample) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming manual
 header Bodye verb regex_icase- value (e*Biz Media Group|viagra| free sample), conjunction ignore header
 verb contains< value.  8 rule Any Header(Optin|opt-in|inbox-deal|Gecko|veteran) transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any Headern verb regex_icase- value (Optin|opt-in|inbox-deal|Gecko|veteran)h conjunction ignore header
 verb contains  valueo   rule Any HeaderDobue@aol.com transfer Trash.mbx stop incoming header Any Headeru
 verb containsu value Dobue@aol.comh conjunction ignore header
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 verb containso valueV   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 02:30:07 -0800. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso)$ Subject: Re: OT: Positions in Europe= Message-ID: <f30679fb.0310290230.1409fb55@posting.google.com>e   Yes thats true !   : I have a friend (HR) at IBM (Nederlands). I sent my resume3 to her about some call center positions in Ireland.0. She said I was overqualified ... Thats bad ! 4 Why coulndt I downgrade my job ? I think I could be 2 a good call center guy because of my experience...     RegardsD   FC r      l Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<3F940924.9232C7EE@blueyonder.co.uk>... > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > @ > > How are the OpenVMS positions in EU ? Spain/UK and Germany ? > G > UK is more or less atable at post WTC levels. Unless you have currente> > experience with the very latest hardware or very specializedC > application experience not easy. Ex-HP employees flooding market.  >    > > > > > I am almost free from my obligations in Brazil ! May/2004. > >  > > And Ich lerne Deutsch ! :-)C > > 6 > > I think I will accept Computer Operator Jobs too !4 > > Not much different from System Manager job ! :-/ > > = > Except you may not get interviews due to overqualification.> >  > 	 > regardsa > > Regards  > >  > > FC   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 02:35:38 -0800. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso)' Subject: Re: Patrol x Decnet Management = Message-ID: <f30679fb.0310290235.1b3209db@posting.google.com>o   Well MC I just wanted a "monitoring node" for other Decnet nodes (passive).rA I know OpenView could do that but we dont have it in the company.t; There is no product to check if a Decnet node is "up", like ) a Decnet ping ! We have Tivoli, Patrol...s   Regards    FC t  e "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<IQinb.76771$%C5.7893@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>... ; > Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message:9 > news:f30679fb.0310270935.33c2c54c@posting.google.com...:= > > Anyone know any kind of Patrol KM to manage Decnet Nodes.0 >  > Patrol KM for VMS  -- YES. > Manage nodes. -- NO!!! > I > BMC Patrol is a monitoring tool only.  I would not call it a Managementr > tool.sD > There are specific (Licensed) KM's for VMS, Oracle on VMS, and our > Application. > N > The BMC guy who was doing our onsite installation/upgrades asked me one timeK > if we could remove the "$" from the device names on all of our VMS device,N > names.  (EX: $1$DGA100:)   I told him " NO.  It's part of the OS.  I have no > controll over the '$' usage."A > ; > > Check if the status is up. Like returning a status from  > > $ MCR NCP LOOP NODE xxxx
 > > etc... > M > AMDS, or HP OpenView (Network Monitoring software package) will provide thesN > same.  AMDS I do not think requires a license on all of the systems like BMC > does.h > H > > We need to put the Patrol Console  to check the status of ome nodes: > >D, > > SNA Gateway and X25/Router under Decnet. > >n > >c > > Regardso > >  > > Fc   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:11:16 +0100d7 From: Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl>  Subject: pthread error message/ Message-ID: <bnoor4$u30$1@bozon2.softax.com.pl>s  	 Dear all,i   I've got error message:   0 Fatal error: exception during destructing mutex. Exception description: Thread library error:eC Execution of pthread function failed - mount device busy (errno 16)M  D What does it mean? I see it first time. Library (our own) that made  pthreads easier to use in C++k is used for few years.   Thanks   Robert   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:06:30 GMTo& From: jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net>R Subject: Re: Question: Linking directories (not quite the same thing, but similar)8 Message-ID: <16ivpvod5q5slto7gg2ofos6h43l643pfq@4ax.com>  4 On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:11:52 -0500, Robert Alan Byer! <byer@mail.ourservers.net> wrote:l     >sC >Basically there are two different "systems" and depending on whichoG >one you want to build will dictate which set of trees to use.  But the B >problem is that (for example) system1 has it's own self-containedA >tree, system2 has it's own tree and also uses pieces of system1,t) >which contains the same directory names.,  D The way I'd resolve this is to define system-level logicals for eachK system'n'-specific includes area, and then have my build procedure define aaC process-level logical 'includes' that points to one of those trees.m   e.g.:   5 	$ define/system system1_inc disk1:[system1.includes]o5 	$ define/system system2_inc disk1:[system2.includes]'   In my build procedure: j   	$define includes system2_inc    or:    	$define includes system2_inct  K If system2 needs specific includes from system1, then define the 'includes'pI logical at the process level (in the build procedure) to be a search-listn7 logical that first specifies system2, and then system2:i  * 	$define includes system2_inc, system1_inc   Does that help?i   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2003 05:34:32 -0800" From: daveparboo@hotmail.com (DXP)" Subject: Read/Inquire a define/key= Message-ID: <819f1cc4.0310290534.25b2c2c5@posting.google.com>e   Greetings Gurus4  < I'm having a spot of bother with the following bit of DCL...  7 $ set terminal /application_keypad /noline_editing /log ) $ define /key kp1 /terminate "Hello" /logS $!. $ read sys$command response /prompt = "What? " $ show symbol response $!) $ inquire/nopunctuation response "What? "o $ show symbol response  ? ...in that the "read" command does not give the desired result,cE whereas the "inquire" command does. I'd rather use the "read" commandd to do this.    Node 1> set verify Node 1> @read_test@ $ set terminal /inquire /application_keypad /noline_editing /log( %SET-I-TERMSET, terminal VTA2670: set toZ VT400_SERIES,ADVANCED_VIDEO,APPLICATION_KEYPAD,PRINTER_PORT,SOFT_CHARACTERS,NOLINE_EDITING) $ define /key kp1 /terminate "Hello" /logh/ %DCL-I-DEFKEY, DEFAULT key KP1 has been definede $!. $ read sys$command response /prompt = "What? "" What? $                <press KP1> $ show symbol response   RESPONSE = ""t $!) $ inquire/nopunctuation response "What? "yD What? Hello            <remove superfluous characters and press KP1> Hello  $ show symbol response   RESPONSE = "HELLO"      . For what it's worth, this is on OpenVMS V7.3-1   Many thanks in a dance   Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:52:55 +0000 , From: Adrian Birkett <aaa@notreallyhere.com>7 Subject: Re: SHOW QUOTA - strange result with VMS 7.3-1i1 Message-ID: <3F9FD447.E1B6EBDD@notreallyhere.com>o   Michael,  0 Do $ DIR/SEC to see who actually owns the files.   Adeo   Michael Unger wrote:  A > I just discovered a strange result of the "SHOW QUOTA" command:a >y% > | DECUS::UNGER> show system /noprocdN > | OpenVMS V7.3-1  on node DECUS  25-OCT-2003 15:39:03.41  Uptime  3 02:10:37 > |t6 > | DECUS::UNGER> write sys$output f$getsyi("hw_name") > | AlphaServer 2100 5/250 > |  > | DECUS::UNGER> show quota6 > |   User [UNGER] has 16 blocks used, 4984 available, > |                    ^^rH > |   of 5000 authorized and permitted overdraft of 100 blocks on USRDSK > |@2 > | DECUS::UNGER> directory /size=all /grand [...]; > | Grand total of 2 directories, 32 files, 545/648 blocks.t3 > |                                         ^^^^^^^. > |F2 > | DECUS::UNGER> directory /size=all [-]unger.dir > | Directory USER01:[000000] $ > | UNGER.DIR;1                5/648$ > |                            ^^^^^ >tC > The system has just been upgraded from 7.3 to 7.3-1; prior to the'1 > upgrade the quota had been displayed correctly.- >-	 > Michael  >a > --= > Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers.tB > Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityC > Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. ? > And don't annoy me <mailto:postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> please ;-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:37:26 +0100u) From: Michael Unger <unger@despammed.com>t7 Subject: Re: SHOW QUOTA - strange result with VMS 7.3-1k: Message-ID: <bnopbu$13p7gn$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  , On 2003-10-29 15:52, "Adrian Birkett" wrote:  2 > Do $ DIR/SEC to see who actually owns the files.   That's me of course! ;-)  F A suitably privileged user on the DECUS system did a "SET VOL/REBUILD"G as Michael Moroney suggested. The problem disappeared immediately after  that.)  D Obviously the problem was not related to the VMS upgrade from 7.3 toH 7.3-1; perhaps the disk had been improperly dismounted in the process of
 upgrading.   Michael    -- s; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system.e= My e-mail account at DECUS Munich will expire on 31-Dec-2003.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:26:33 -0800-3 From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet01REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com>mE Subject: Re: Video "ringing" with PBXGA but not Mach64 or Elsa Glorias. Message-ID: <3F9FEA39.8060405@Flying-Disk.com>   Alan Frisbie wrote:w  H > BINGO!   That was it!   Even though an ohmmeter showed zero resistanceD > between the three analog grounds (pins 6, 7, & 8), a small wire (ID > used 30ga wire-wrap wire) soldered across all three pins cured theH > problem.   Now I can use the ZLXp-E2 at all 1280x1024 rates, including> > the most "agressive", setting 13 (80 KHz Horiz, 75 Hz Vert).  @ Just to be complete, I should add that before adding the wire, I? tried Hoff's suggestion that I test other switch settings (i.e.eA different scan rates) on the ZLXp-E2.   No matter what the switchC) setting, the video ringing still occured.,  ? My guess is that the BNC connection to my monitor (which workedr= perfectly) has all three grounds connected together.   When I = used the HD-15 connector (directly, through cheaper cable, or,< via the KVM switch), I'm guessing that they are not (or that< it somehow requires them to be connected at the video card).9 The "floating" ground then resulted in the ringing I saw.I  > The reason the Elsa and ATI boards did not have the problem is? apparently because all three grounds are connected at the videoa= card.   Now that I have made the fix to the ZLXp-E2, they alld have equally good images.-  > But, as I mentioned in my previous note, I still would like to> know why the DECwindows "Style Manager - Color" does not allow< me to change colors (the "Modify" button is greyed out) with< the ZLXp-E2, but does allow it with the Elsa and ATI boards?   Thanks,  Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:35:53 +0100uB From: " INFORMENTOR AB" <informentor.se-nd-sp-am-he-re@swipnet.se>  Subject: Re: VMS v8.2 has a name4 Message-ID: <WQLnb.1060$uv1.825@nntpserver.swip.net>  % "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> wrote:-  $ > "OpenVMS for HP Integrity Servers" >3J On a VMS technical update session yesterday I noted the new "Official name  for VMS on Itanium Systems" was:  2 "hp OpenVMS Industry Standard 64..." (for Itanium)   Regards  Bo   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:43:59 +0100s- From: "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de>l  Subject: Re: VMS v8.2 has a name9 Message-ID: <bno965$13psor$1@ID-56200.news.uni-berlin.de>o    INFORMENTOR AB wrote:' > "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> wrote:-% >> "OpenVMS for HP Integrity Servers"2 >>  G > On a VMS technical update session yesterday I noted the new "Officialc' > name for VMS on Itanium Systems" was:t > 4 > "hp OpenVMS Industry Standard 64..." (for Itanium)  ! ...or "hp OpenVMS I64" for short.o   cu,/   Martin -- cF   OpenVMS:                | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3    The operating system   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.denF    God runs the           |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:    earth simulation on.   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:20:49 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>   Subject: Re: VMS v8.2 has a name8 Message-ID: <t1fvpvgjm8hpvn42578m0i26im82gn7si6@4ax.com>  K On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:43:59 +0100, "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de>  wrote:   > INFORMENTOR AB wrote:-( >> "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> wrote:& >>> "OpenVMS for HP Integrity Servers" >>> H >> On a VMS technical update session yesterday I noted the new "Official( >> name for VMS on Itanium Systems" was: >> o5 >> "hp OpenVMS Industry Standard 64..." (for Itanium)w >h" >...or "hp OpenVMS I64" for short.  P If you log in to the rx2600 Test Drive system you will find that SYS$ANNOUNCE isF Welcome to HP OpenVMS Industry Standard 64 Evaluation Release XA0F-J2S   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:22:41 -0700l+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>   Subject: Re: VMS v8.2 has a name' Message-ID: <3F9FDB41.1030402@MMaz.com>l   INFORMENTOR AB wrote:f  & >"Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> wrote: >k >  v >d$ >>"OpenVMS for HP Integrity Servers" >> >>     >>K >On a VMS technical update session yesterday I noted the new "Official namea! >for VMS on Itanium Systems" was:e >a3 >"hp OpenVMS Industry Standard 64..." (for Itanium)n >  f > G Naw, I personally have always hated the Open non-sense, how about just:n   hp IA64/VMSe  - a take off from the old VAX/VMS, and so on...e   Barryi   -- r  > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                            ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:29:31 -0800f# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>   Subject: RE: VMS v8.2 has a name9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEJMIFAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message-----s1 >From: Barry Treahy, Jr. [mailto:Treahy@MMaz.com]r* >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:23 AM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com! >Subject: Re: VMS v8.2 has a namel >  >  >INFORMENTOR AB wrote: >e' >>"Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> wrote:p >> >> >>% >>>"OpenVMS for HP Integrity Servers"o >>>n >>>  >>>rL >>On a VMS technical update session yesterday I noted the new "Official name" >>for VMS on Itanium Systems" was: >>4 >>"hp OpenVMS Industry Standard 64..." (for Itanium) >> >>H >Naw, I personally have always hated the Open non-sense, how about just:A Open was a deceptive epithet.  At the time they started using it,rC GPL'd  software.  Maybe they thought it would bamboozle some buyerst >' >hp IA64/VMSH or hp IA64/OS=[VMS | HP-UX/VAR=Tru64 } NS | Win]  OTOH why not just VMS, the underlyingC vehicle really isn't too important, as long as it isn't a real dog.r >e. >a take off from the old VAX/VMS, and so on... >I >Barry >h >--o >o? >Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com ? >Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320r? >Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028y >a >t >  >x >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).aB >Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003 >e --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:00:02 +0100 - From: "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de>c7 Subject: Re: [survey] why do you still use VAX systems?o9 Message-ID: <bnnupr$13gdf2$1@ID-56200.news.uni-berlin.de>    Paul Sture wrote:  > Tom Linden wrote:EF >> I switched from tcpip$smtp 5.1 to MX5.3 about about a month ago andE >> so far I have managed to reduce the spam to a trickle mostly pillsaD >> of some kind.  Haven't figure out how to filter them because they( >> keep changing the name, e.g. V| ag ra > E > Where do I get MX5,3? I thought it was a Process Software product -oD > chargeable but with more functionality than the freeware version -% > yet I cannot find it on their site.=  A That's PMDF. MX is a software by Matt Madison, 5.3 is commercial.o See www.madgoat.comu   cu,m   Martin -- [F   OpenVMS:                | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3    The operating system   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deoF    God runs the           |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:    earth simulation on.   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:03:08 -0800.# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>T7 Subject: RE: [survey] why do you still use VAX systems?x9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEJJIFAA.tom@kednos.com>$  = What exactly was the Alpha configuration in that test, Chuck?    >-----Original Message----- * >From: Didier Morandi [mailto:no@spam.com]( >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:12 PM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com8 >Subject: Re: [survey] why do you still use VAX systems? >g >e >Chuck Graham wrote: > G >> The CHARON VAX emulator can be configured to be equivalent to a 7840rI >> by installing multiple copies of CHARON VAX on a multi-processor AlphabD >> and clustering them together.  This has been tested on up to a 16H >> processor Alpha system with 15 instances of CHARON VAX with virtually< >> linear increases in performance.  Results can be found on >> WWW.WinVMS.com. >oI >Thanks, Chuck. Valuable input for the next VAX/VMS to Itanium Migration  G >Nwesletter, which will focus next month on emulation as a solution to m& >solve the VAX/VMS obsolescence issue. > 5 >The October version of the letter may be found here:e7 >http://www.didiermorandi.com/vaxvms2itanium_200310.pdfx >t >D.  >o >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). B >Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003 >i ---a& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003e   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.600 ************************