1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 15 Sep 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 511       Contents:+ Re: "HP breakup on the way" - Merrill Lynch + Re: "HP breakup on the way" - Merrill Lynch + Re: "HP breakup on the way" - Merrill Lynch 1 Re: Advanced Server - copying large file problem? 7 Re: ANN: some new freeware and freeware updates for VMS # Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au # RE: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au # RE: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au # Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au # Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au # Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au # RE: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au # Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au # RE: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au  Re: Do we need a DCL debugger? Re: Max Files Allowed & iSCSI  Re: Max Files Allowed & iSCSI ' Re: Moving a Tk70 from 3400 to 4000/600 % Re: New Itanium sales figures arrived 1 Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist licence for layered products 3 Re: Porting from UNIX to OpenVMS for a real newbie.   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:47:11 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>4 Subject: Re: "HP breakup on the way" - Merrill Lynch) Message-ID: <3F654445.8D97E888@istop.com>    Fred Kleinsorge wrote:L > I wanna be an analyst...  The moon will eventually tear itself free of the< > earths gravitational pull and hurl itself back into space,  L I remember seing a british documentary about this. It happened back in 1999.L The moon we currently have is just a fake and is missing the moon base Alpha+ that we had on the real moon prior to 1999.  :-)     M While I might agree with your asessement of this warning, what is significant M is that Wall Street Casino analysts seem to have begin to swing from praising D Carly's folly (merger success) into starting to rethink HP's future.  M If you invest $1 to buy Compaq, you would expect to get better return than if N you had invested that $1 into HP to fix the PC manufacturing and distribution.M However, if that $1 you invested in Compaq serves to simply shut down much of G Compaq, and the former Compaq sales don't all come to HP, then you have M invested $1 to steer customers to competitors, not exactly a winning formula.   N One more reason Carly's insistance on ignoring VMS during the merger pregnancyL was a big mistake. She should have welcomed us with big wide arms and even aB wet kiss to make sure we felt comfortable within her organisation.  M The merger may have gone well on paper, but I think that it didn't go so well K in terms of adopting the ex Digital customers now at Compaq and that may be  coming back to haunt Carly.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:49:42 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>4 Subject: Re: "HP breakup on the way" - Merrill Lynch) Message-ID: <3F6544DB.28C623D5@istop.com>    John Smith wrote: I > 1) Who is apt to be more knowledgeable about writing device drivers for 5 > VMS - Fred Kleinsorge or the Merrill Lynch analyst?  > N > 2) Who is apt to be more knowledgeable about the maschinations of investmentG > banking and merger/acquisitions/divestitures - Fred Kleinsorge or the  > Merrill Lynch analyst?  K In fairness,  the Wall Street Casino Analysts often have other interests to L protect/promote and their reports may be slanted to protect such interests.   L And if a Merrill competitor has a huge stake in HP, it would be to Merrill'sM advantage to soil HP's reputation to drive the stock down and thus hurt their M competitor. The rats aren't all in the new york city sewers. They are also in , those high rise bank buildings in Manhattan.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 01:03:05 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>4 Subject: Re: "HP breakup on the way" - Merrill Lynch) Message-ID: <3F6547FD.46835AF4@istop.com>    Fred Kleinsorge wrote:K > me, analysts seem akin to film critics - they don't have the talent to do  > it - so they critique it.   I But film reviews have a large influence on how many people pay to see the M movie. So film critics, no matter how good or bad they actually are, are very 6 important to a film's success (as is its advertising).  L So far, almost all wall street casino analysts had been quite happy with the$ merger and applauded Carly's folly.   M Now, this is one example of a negative report on Carly's folly. By itself, it L may not be so important, but if it starts a trend of other analysts startingN to fall out of love with carly, then HP could be in for a regular criticism of1 its performance and that would definitely be bad.   J Lets see if other analysts start to realise that a merger is far more thanK merging payroll and the web site. It is more than "keeping" the other guy's M customers, it is about adopting them. And it is about ensuring that the money J invested in the purchase will actually yield the promised returns. CuttingE costs by simply castrating the company you purchased doesn't increase J production, it doesn't "adopt" your customers. It simply cuts fixed costs.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:52:58 GMT 6 From: "Andy Bustamante" <a_c_bustamante@earthlink.net>: Subject: Re: Advanced Server - copying large file problem?? Message-ID: <K389b.149$K44.22876326@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>   ' Google the newsgroup for discussion on:   % $ TCPIP SET PROTOCOL TCP /NODELAY_ACK        -- Andy Bustamante  remove the ASCII 95s to reply     < "Clay M. Denton" <denton@orison.dsserv.com> wrote in message2 news:hk5ulvsf1f9me0d8fdv4hn4j4pon4h2i6h@4ax.com... > Environment: > ) > AlphaServer GS60 6/525 6 cpu 4GB memory ) > OpenVMS Alpha 7.3-1 (w lots of patches)  > Advanced Server 7.3A& > PC Running Windows 2000 Server - SP65 > 100BaseT full duplex switched network - same subnet  > TCP/IP as transport  > K > Am moving a directory structure from local PC drive to a share on the VMS 
 system.  Have E > 2 files which won't copy.  1 is more than 6GB, 1 is more than 10GB.  > 4 > On the PC - I get a somewhat useless popup error - > 5 > Cannot copy file xyzabc The parameter is incorrect.  > 4 > This occurs about 4GB of the way through the file. > K > Additional note - though unrelated - throughput on this is very slow.  It  takes about 90E > minutes to copy 6 GB of data - so I'm only getting about 11Mbit/sec  utilization ofK > the network.  FTP from the same PC to the same Alpha gets me over 88Mbit.  >  > Thoughts, anyone?  > 	 > Thanks,  > Clay >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:40:32 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>@ Subject: Re: ANN: some new freeware and freeware updates for VMS2 Message-ID: <bk2isn$bpe$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Marty Kuhrt wrote:U > In article <bjlev7$uuf$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes:  > Q >>The only problem that I have with XPDF, is the fact that you can't open a file  O >>from within XPDF itself. There is no menu with "Open File". Maybe in a later  
 >>version ???  >  > E > If you right click in the document area it will bring up a submenu  G > that has Open in it.  At least it does with the versions I run, 0.92   > and 2.02p11.. Perhaps you also know how to print from XPDF ?  : I supply the following print command: PRINT /QUE=<my que>,Q but all I get is al lot of errors. It seems every character in the first line of  ' the print document is passed to DCL ?!?    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:07:03 -0600 % From: e-mail@end_of.msg (Mike Cesari) , Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au. Message-ID: <e-mail-1409031307030001@10.0.1.4>  c In article <d0141774.0309122359.5b99cf96@posting.google.com>, issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) wrote:   D > Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to3 > boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck. F > I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which IH > know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for aE > while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console  > firmware is V7.2-1. H > When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuffG > then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another  > delay, then... > , > 'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0', > 'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54' > G > Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and it G > dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and % > terminations and it all looks good.  >  > Any help much appreciated.   Hi,   8 On my 600au, the IDE cdrom shows up as "dqb0.0.0.207.0".2 Since yours is dka400 I suspect you have the wrong: setting for os_type. From the SRM prompt check the setting for "os_type":   >>> show os_type  . It should return OpenVMS. If it doesn't, type:   >>> set os_type OpenVMS   * Note that the parameter is case sensitive!F (To get the list of OSes, type "set os_type" without an OS parameter.)  ; Then power off the PWS wait 45 seconds and turn it back on. 9 (I don't know if this last step is absolutely necessary.)   & You should now be able to boot the cd:
 >>> boot dqb0   
 Good luck,   Mike --   mcesari  (at) comcast(dot)net  --   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:14:23 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> , Subject: RE: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICEJAHPAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message----- - >From: Mike Cesari [mailto:e-mail@end_of.msg] * >Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:07 PM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com- >Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au  >  > > >In article <d0141774.0309122359.5b99cf96@posting.google.com>,& >issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) wrote: > E >> Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to 4 >> boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck.G >> I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which I I >> know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for a F >> while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console >> firmware is V7.2-1.I >> When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuff H >> then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another >> delay, then...  >>- >> 'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0' - >> 'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54'  >>H >> Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and itH >> dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and& >> terminations and it all looks good. >> >> Any help much appreciated.  >  >Hi, > 9 >On my 600au, the IDE cdrom shows up as "dqb0.0.0.207.0". 3 >Since yours is dka400 I suspect you have the wrong ; >setting for os_type. From the SRM prompt check the setting  >for "os_type":   E On mine it is dka400.  I may be wrong but if you are issuing the boot L commands manually I don't think it matters what OS_TYPE is set to.  The factH that he is able to commence the boot means that it was reading correctly from# the CD, so something else is amiss.    >  >>>> show os_type  > / >It should return OpenVMS. If it doesn't, type:  >  >>>> set os_type OpenVMS > + >Note that the parameter is case sensitive! G >(To get the list of OSes, type "set os_type" without an OS parameter.)  > < >Then power off the PWS wait 45 seconds and turn it back on.: >(I don't know if this last step is absolutely necessary.)   >>> init   should be sufficient.  > ' >You should now be able to boot the cd:  >>>> boot dqb0 >  >Good luck,  >  >Mike  >--  >mcesari >(at)  >comcast(dot)net >--  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). A >Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003  >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:22:50 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> , Subject: RE: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEJAHPAA.tom@kednos.com>   C Try copying CD to a drive using dd and then booting from that drive    >-----Original Message----- , >From: issinoho [mailto:issinoho@slayme.com], >Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:59 AM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com) >Subject: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au  >  > C >Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to 2 >boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck.E >I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which I G >know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for a D >while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console >firmware is V7.2-1.G >When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuff F >then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another >delay, then...  > + >'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0' + >'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54'  > F >Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and itF >dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and$ >terminations and it all looks good. >  >Any help much appreciated.  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). A >Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003  >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:27:13 +0100 $ From: Issinoho <issinoho@slayme.com>, Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au2 Message-ID: <1063571337.42417.0@echo.uk.clara.net>   Mike Cesari wrote:e > In article <d0141774.0309122359.5b99cf96@posting.google.com>, issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) wrote:  >  > D >>Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to3 >>boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck. F >>I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which IH >>know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for aE >>while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console  >>firmware is V7.2-1. H >>When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuffG >>then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another  >>delay, then... >>, >>'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0', >>'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54' >>G >>Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and it G >>dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and % >>terminations and it all looks good.  >> >>Any help much appreciated. >  >  > Hi,  > : > On my 600au, the IDE cdrom shows up as "dqb0.0.0.207.0".4 > Since yours is dka400 I suspect you have the wrong< > setting for os_type. From the SRM prompt check the setting > for "os_type": >   D No, mine originally showed up like this as well, but booting off it F didn't work either. Different crash, but a crash just the same. I had C some recollection of reading elsewhere that the a-series was never  J designed to boot VMS off an IDE CDROM, hence I installed the SCSI variant.  H This is very frustrating as I'm so close to getting this bad-boy up and 7 running, but can't pinpoint where my problem area lies.   I I had originally thought, as a workaround, that I could backup the Alpha  F boot image onto the HD using my VAX (the equivalent of imaging the .B F saveset on a VAX) but of course the Alpha CDROM doesn't have the same F saveset based installation (presumably it's PCSI based). Is there any 5 equivalent method along these lines that I could use?    >  >>>>show os_type >  > 0 > It should return OpenVMS. If it doesn't, type: >  >  >>>>set os_type OpenVMS  >  > , > Note that the parameter is case sensitive!H > (To get the list of OSes, type "set os_type" without an OS parameter.) > = > Then power off the PWS wait 45 seconds and turn it back on. ; > (I don't know if this last step is absolutely necessary.)  > ( > You should now be able to boot the cd: > 
 >>>>boot dqb0  >  >  > Good luck, >  > Mike   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:36:28 +0100 $ From: Issinoho <issinoho@slayme.com>, Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au2 Message-ID: <1063571803.42662.0@echo.uk.clara.net>   Mike Cesari wrote:  e > In article <d0141774.0309122359.5b99cf96@posting.google.com>, issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) wrote:  >  > D >>Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to3 >>boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck. F >>I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which IH >>know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for aE >>while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console  >>firmware is V7.2-1. H >>When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuffG >>then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another  >>delay, then... >>, >>'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0', >>'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54' >>G >>Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and it G >>dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and % >>terminations and it all looks good.  >> >>Any help much appreciated. >  >  > Hi,  > : > On my 600au, the IDE cdrom shows up as "dqb0.0.0.207.0".4 > Since yours is dka400 I suspect you have the wrong< > setting for os_type. From the SRM prompt check the setting > for "os_type": >  >  >>>>show os_type >  > 0 > It should return OpenVMS. If it doesn't, type: >  >  >>>>set os_type OpenVMS  >  > , > Note that the parameter is case sensitive!H > (To get the list of OSes, type "set os_type" without an OS parameter.) > = > Then power off the PWS wait 45 seconds and turn it back on. ; > (I don't know if this last step is absolutely necessary.)  > ( > You should now be able to boot the cd: > 
 >>>>boot dqb0  >  >  > Good luck, >  > Mike  I One other thought... I assume the a and au series have the same firmware?    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:19:37 +0100 ( From: "John Travell" <john@jomatech.com>, Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au9 Message-ID: <bk2m8r$oq792$1@ID-120847.news.uni-berlin.de>   . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message3 news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEJAHPAA.tom@kednos.com... E > Try copying CD to a drive using dd and then booting from that drive  >  > >-----Original Message----- . > >From: issinoho [mailto:issinoho@slayme.com]. > >Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:59 AM > >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ > >Subject: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au  > >  > > E > >Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to 4 > >boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck.G > >I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which I I > >know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for a F > >while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console > >firmware is V7.2-1.I > >When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuff H > >then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another > >delay, then...  > > - > >'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0' - > >'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54'  > > H > >Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and itH > >dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and& > >terminations and it all looks good. > >  > >Any help much appreciated.  > >   . Did nobody think of checking the status code ? $ exit %x54 ) %SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error   B This suggests either that the SCSI controller is faulty, or is not. configured correctly, or not supported by VMS. What does the console command: >>> show device 
 return ? Also  >>> show config      -- John Travell" Independent VMS crashdump analyst. john- at - jomatech - dot - com  +44-(0)23-92552229 http://www.jomatech.com/       --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 14:26:37 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> , Subject: RE: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIGEJDHPAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message----- . >From: John Travell [mailto:john@jomatech.com]) >Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:20 PM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com- >Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au  >  > / >"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message 4 >news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEJAHPAA.tom@kednos.com...F >> Try copying CD to a drive using dd and then booting from that drive >> >> >-----Original Message-----/ >> >From: issinoho [mailto:issinoho@slayme.com] / >> >Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:59 AM  >> >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com , >> >Subject: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au >> > >> >F >> >Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to5 >> >boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck. H >> >I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which IJ >> >know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for aG >> >while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console  >> >firmware is V7.2-1. J >> >When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuffI >> >then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another  >> >delay, then... >> >. >> >'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0'. >> >'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54' >> >I >> >Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and it I >> >dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and ' >> >terminations and it all looks good.  >> > >> >Any help much appreciated. >> > > / >Did nobody think of checking the status code ?  >$ exit %x54* >%SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error  K Bingo!  The KZPBA-CX is the differntial SCSI controller.  Near the external I connector there should be a bank of 8 (yellow) resistor packs.  These are H pulled when deployed on a share SCSI bus.  Not sure how to use the boardL otherwise.  Maybe the resistors have to be in.  The KZPBA-CY is what you mayJ want.  Another thought, does the riser board have a 68 pin SCSI connector?I 600au had an onboard controller, in which case pul the one on the PCI bus  and use that one.  > C >This suggests either that the SCSI controller is faulty, or is not / >configured correctly, or not supported by VMS.  >What does the console command:  >>>> show device >return ? Also >>>> show config >  >  >-- 
 >John Travell # >Independent VMS crashdump analyst.   >john- at - jomatech - dot - com >+44-(0)23-92552229  >http://www.jomatech.com/  >  >  >  >---' >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). B >Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 >  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). A >Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003  >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 01:37:10 +0100 $ From: Issinoho <issinoho@slayme.com>, Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au5 Message-ID: <1063585038.38643.0@despina.uk.clara.net>   I Bingo! sounds good. But I'm not sure what you're advising. I think we've  H established that it's not an 'au' system; rather an 'a' and there is no  on-board SCSI controller. K What do I do with the resistors? Can you explain in layman's terms, please. I What's really bugging me is why I'm having to fight like hell to get VMS  B on this box. What's the fundamental issues here? Is there a basic G hardware incompatiblity which means I'm banging my head against a wall?   * All help and input greatfully appreciated.   Tom Linden wrote:  >  >>-----Original Message-----/ >>From: John Travell [mailto:john@jomatech.com] * >>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:20 PM >>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com . >>Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au >> >>0 >>"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message5 >>news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEJAHPAA.tom@kednos.com...  >>F >>>Try copying CD to a drive using dd and then booting from that drive >>>  >>>  >>>>-----Original Message-----/ >>>>From: issinoho [mailto:issinoho@slayme.com] / >>>>Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:59 AM  >>>>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com , >>>>Subject: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au >>>> >>>>F >>>>Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to5 >>>>boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck. H >>>>I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which IJ >>>>know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for aG >>>>while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console  >>>>firmware is V7.2-1. J >>>>When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuffI >>>>then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another  >>>>delay, then... >>>>. >>>>'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0'. >>>>'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54' >>>>I >>>>Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and it I >>>>dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and ' >>>>terminations and it all looks good.  >>>> >>>>Any help much appreciated. >>>> >>0 >>Did nobody think of checking the status code ?
 >>$ exit %x54 + >>%SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error  >  > M > Bingo!  The KZPBA-CX is the differntial SCSI controller.  Near the external K > connector there should be a bank of 8 (yellow) resistor packs.  These are J > pulled when deployed on a share SCSI bus.  Not sure how to use the boardN > otherwise.  Maybe the resistors have to be in.  The KZPBA-CY is what you mayL > want.  Another thought, does the riser board have a 68 pin SCSI connector?K > 600au had an onboard controller, in which case pul the one on the PCI bus  > and use that one.  > D >>This suggests either that the SCSI controller is faulty, or is not0 >>configured correctly, or not supported by VMS.  >>What does the console command: >> >>>>>show device >> >>return ? Also  >> >>>>>show config >> >> >>-- >>John Travell$ >>Independent VMS crashdump analyst.! >>john- at - jomatech - dot - com  >>+44-(0)23-92552229 >>http://www.jomatech.com/ >> >> >> >>--- ( >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).C >>Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003  >> >> >>--- ( >>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.< >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).B >>Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003 >> >  > --- ( > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).B > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003 >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 18:13:17 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> , Subject: RE: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICEJGHPAA.tom@kednos.com>   5 Try googling a bit I just did and found the following   J > I've tried to install 5.1A on a AS2100 with a KZPBA-CX (UW-SE SCSI), butC > even if SRM sees the disks, the OS doesn't, so the install fails.  > 6 > KZPBA-CA is supported, and the specs are identical..G it really is the same device. KZPBA-CA is the selling code, -CX the one ? that field services uses. This has been confirmed by a local HP H maintenance man. The reason why the install fails is probably due to old4 firmware on the card, or SCSI-terminations (sigh..). t     F You will have to find someone who knows more about it than I.  I would googleF on that part number.  I know I had to remove the resistors to run on a shared  scsi bus.  sorry can't help more   >-----Original Message----- , >From: Issinoho [mailto:issinoho@slayme.com]) >Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 5:37 PM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com- >Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au  >  > I >Bingo! sounds good. But I'm not sure what you're advising. I think we've H >established that it's not an 'au' system; rather an 'a' and there is no >on-board SCSI controller.L >What do I do with the resistors? Can you explain in layman's terms, please.I >What's really bugging me is why I'm having to fight like hell to get VMS B >on this box. What's the fundamental issues here? Is there a basicH >hardware incompatiblity which means I'm banging my head against a wall? > + >All help and input greatfully appreciated.  >  >Tom Linden wrote: >> >>>-----Original Message----- 0 >>>From: John Travell [mailto:john@jomatech.com]+ >>>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:20 PM  >>>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com/ >>>Subject: Re: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au  >>>  >>> 1 >>>"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message 6 >>>news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEJAHPAA.tom@kednos.com... >>> G >>>>Try copying CD to a drive using dd and then booting from that drive  >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- 0 >>>>>From: issinoho [mailto:issinoho@slayme.com]0 >>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:59 AM >>>>>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com- >>>>>Subject: Booting hobbyist CD on PWS433au  >>>>>  >>>>> G >>>>>Having finally got my PWS433au up and running, I've been trying to 6 >>>>>boot the Alpha hobbyist CD with thus far no luck.I >>>>>I pulled the ATAPI CDROM from the box and installed an RRD42 which I K >>>>>know is OK as it's been doing its stuff happily in my VAXstation for a H >>>>>while now. The SCSI card is a DEC (Qlogic) KZPBA-CX and the console >>>>>firmware is V7.2-1.K >>>>>When I do a 'boot dka400' I get the usual 'jumping to bootstrap' stuff J >>>>>then a bit of a delay, then the 'OpenVMS 7.2' banner appears, another >>>>>delay, then...  >>>>> / >>>>>'failed to send read to dka400.4.0.1010.0' / >>>>>'error loading IO_ROUTINES.EXE, status=54'  >>>>> J >>>>>Anyone know what is going on? I've tried booting an old OSF CD and itJ >>>>>dies in a similar fashion. I've triple checked my SCSI connectors and( >>>>>terminations and it all looks good. >>>>>  >>>>>Any help much appreciated.  >>>>>  >>> 1 >>>Did nobody think of checking the status code ?  >>>$ exit %x54, >>>%SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error >> >>A >> Bingo!  The KZPBA-CX is the differntial SCSI controller.  Near 
 >the external L >> connector there should be a bank of 8 (yellow) resistor packs.  These areK >> pulled when deployed on a share SCSI bus.  Not sure how to use the board B >> otherwise.  Maybe the resistors have to be in.  The KZPBA-CY is
 >what you may B >> want.  Another thought, does the riser board have a 68 pin SCSI >connector? L >> 600au had an onboard controller, in which case pul the one on the PCI bus >> and use that one. >>E >>>This suggests either that the SCSI controller is faulty, or is not 1 >>>configured correctly, or not supported by VMS. ! >>>What does the console command:  >>>  >>>>>>show device  >>>  >>>return ? Also >>>  >>>>>>show config  >>>  >>>  >>>--  >>>John Travell % >>>Independent VMS crashdump analyst. " >>>john- at - jomatech - dot - com >>>+44-(0)23-92552229  >>>http://www.jomatech.com/  >>>  >>>  >>>  >>>---) >>>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. = >>>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). D >>>Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 >>>  >>>  >>>---) >>>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. = >>>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). C >>>Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003  >>>  >> >> ---) >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. = >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). C >> Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003  >> >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). A >Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003  >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:19:31 -0400a* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>' Subject: Re: Do we need a DCL debugger? ) Message-ID: <3F653DCA.C02F1B33@istop.com>a  , While on a long bike ride, I got to think...  I The VMS engineers should resurrect the AI code that had been removed from J almost all VMS 5.0 kits. (reference, the document called "Vaxorcist" which. made the rounds of the internet at that time).  % Once fixed, one should be able to do:   
 @vaxorcist- VAXORCIST-I-QUESTION What do you want to do ? V > write a command procedure that lists all users who have not logged in since last may- VAXORCIST-I-WORKING Generating your porcedure0   <a few seconds later>   N VAXORCIST-I-TRY Do you wish to try the procedure before seing its code [Y] ? N@ VAXORCIST-W-ANGRY I am getting angry at you for not trusting me.A VAXORCOIST-I-SAVE Do you wish to save the command procedure ? [y]e   etc etc.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:54:26 GMTb From: lewis@mazda.mitre.orgL& Subject: Re: Max Files Allowed & iSCSI/ Message-ID: <6A49b.19$KY.76455@news.uswest.net>a   Gary L. Ross <rossgl@parknicollet.com> writes in article <rja7mvo66fkj83l78lj5q2mvnbr03sltu2@4ax.com> dated Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:45:17 -0500: >Q1i >hF >Is there a limit (size of disk and file aside) to the number of filesB >allowed on a disk?  I'm putting several (1500 a day) unique filesE >out on a 9GB drive and want to make sure I won't reach a file limit.y; >In other words, can I put 50,000 files into one directory?   E If you initialize your disk right, you can get 9,000,000 files on it.a See HELP INIT /MAXIMUM_FILES and SHOW DEV /FULL dk    >Q2t >.A >Is there any support for VMS to attach to iSCSI storage?  We arerD >running VMS 7.2-2 on an Alpha4100 currently to 4 HSZ80 controllers.  
 Not AFAIK.   klewis$mitre.org   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:54:20 -0500p, From: Gary L. Ross <rossgl@parknicollet.com>& Subject: Re: Max Files Allowed & iSCSI8 Message-ID: <cedamvklsubmjt5ikk6h2basc8r8qe5cag@4ax.com>  > Thanks for the replies everyone.  I'm not to worried about the< performance or caching of the files on the disk in question.A The disk will be used for dumping log files (for HIPAA) and other B reports to be archived.  I have a monthly batch job that zips them@ up so our operators can burn them to DVD for permanent archival.A I never thought of doing a SHOW DEVICE /FULL to see if this wouldiD have answered my question, which it did.  :)  Thanks again everyone.  B Has there been any mention of when iSCSI will be supported in VMS?      > On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:54:26 GMT, lewis@mazda.mitre.org wrote:   >Gary L. Ross <rossgl@parknicollet.com> writes in article <rja7mvo66fkj83l78lj5q2mvnbr03sltu2@4ax.com> dated Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:45:17 -0500:K >>Q1 >>G >>Is there a limit (size of disk and file aside) to the number of filesbC >>allowed on a disk?  I'm putting several (1500 a day) unique filesiF >>out on a 9GB drive and want to make sure I won't reach a file limit.< >>In other words, can I put 50,000 files into one directory? >iF >If you initialize your disk right, you can get 9,000,000 files on it. >See HELP INIT /MAXIMUM_FILESM >and SHOW DEV /FULL dk >e >>Q2 >>B >>Is there any support for VMS to attach to iSCSI storage?  We areE >>running VMS 7.2-2 on an Alpha4100 currently to 4 HSZ80 controllers.l >n >Not AFAIK.  >y >klewis$mitre.orgl   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:14:34 +0800-, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>0 Subject: Re: Moving a Tk70 from 3400 to 4000/600- Message-ID: <87smmzcbt1.fsf@prep.synonet.com>l  , Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]> writes:  D > I had a TF85 which was a DOA, this is what I used, removing the TFA > and replacing with the TK. Squirreling ironwork is a good idea.   G A disk cradle and some mechano should also get the job done. Main thing 2 you need is to get the right offset of the holes .   -- a< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.l@                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:39:17 -0400c* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>. Subject: Re: New Itanium sales figures arrived) Message-ID: <3F65426B.E5D9BC2B@istop.com>n  ( Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote:< > This results in ~170 Madisons/wafer when you factor in the: > round wafer square die losses at the edges of the wafer. > 9 > Lets say you get a 60% yield this gets you 102 Madisonst > per wafer.  F Back in the very early days of the Compaq purchase of Digital, I got aN presentation from a Digit about Alpha vs IA64/Merced. One of the big argumentsL against IA64 was that the complexity of the chip would result in much largerJ chips and any time you have a larger chip area, it result in significantlyJ lower yields. The Digit then stated that Intel would have a very hard timeS being competitive with a chip whose yield is significantly inferior to competitors.O  = Now, I don't know what current yield would be for IA64 chips.eM Is the 60% figure quoted by Mr Harrisson more or less an industry average for5K real server chips (Alpha, Power, Sparc) ? Are there significant differences  between those chips ?m  N And in terms of current IA64, would its yield still be significantly inferior, or would it have caught up ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:51:26 -0400p* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>: Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist licence for layered products) Message-ID: <3F654544.26F2DAA2@istop.com>    > >You're kidding, right?  > >n > >  $ LICENSE DELETE *t  L This may be fine when you have ONLY hobbysist licences on your system and noM others licences. But if you have legitimate licences on the system, you don'tnQ want to delete those too. So one must be selective in which licences one deletes.i   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:48:59 GMTz6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>< Subject: Re: Porting from UNIX to OpenVMS for a real newbie.@ Message-ID: <8b6390d6cc4b3d29d9009d293c6b1da2@news.teranews.com>  , In article <3F63C331.504FF4B4@ntlworld.com>,2  "Dr. David Kirkby" <drkirkby@ntlworld.com> wrote:  I > Are argc, and argv okay on OpenVMS ??  I guess that is just standard C,e' > so assume there is no problem there. <  F Case preservation in command-line arguments is optional in recent VMS H versions and absent in earlier ones, so in order to preserve case users  may have to say   
 $ foo -"V"   instead of i   $ foo -V  H That's nothing specific to your package, but something to be aware of.  & Other than that you'll probably be ok.    J > So you see there is a mixture of essential bits, some non essential bitsF > requiring the GNU Scientific library, a set of highly desirable testF > routines, optionally support for multiple CPUs via POSIX threads and@ > perhaps some code to find out a bit of basic hardware details.  G POSIX threads are definitely supported.  There are compiler and linker -+ options necessary to enable threading.  See0   $ help cc/reentrancy   and    $ help link/threads_enable  C I don't know about the GNU scientific library; it may also require .G porting.  Does it assume IEEE floating point?  Note that IEEE floating i@ point is not available on VAX, and on Alpha it is a non-default  compiler option.  D Getting the count of available CPUs is a pretty trivial query using F system services or lexical functions.  Here's what it looks like from  DCL (the "shell" language):e  + $ write sys$output f$getsyi("availcpu_cnt")a 1    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.511 ************************