1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 20 Sep 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 522       Contents:0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?0 Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?  Advanced Server software support  Re: DS10 vs. DS40 and HP support" Re: HELP: Using CLI with C program Re: HP hardware "support" 3 Re: HP Spends $750MM advertising Windows & printers 3 Re: HP Spends $750MM advertising Windows & printers - Mailing lists unsubscribed from mail box full  Re: Need quotes for a system" Re: newbie multinet, wasd question0 Re: OpenVMS hobbyyest - free to join or not ????0 Re: OpenVMS hobbyyest - free to join or not ????0 Re: OpenVMS hobbyyest - free to join or not ????0 Re: OpenVMS hobbyyest - free to join or not ???? Re: Reimport VMS mail problemsF Re: Search all Files for any Lines containing specific set of Strings." Re: source for 431 pin CPU socket?8 Re: Statement from VMS/TCPIP engineers ? 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(BIND/Verisign)  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 03 08:14:54 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? ) Message-ID: <l+VEU6l8NX6j@elias.decus.ch>   Q In article <Usenet.apgtpqtg@localhost>, Jean-Luc <r-jl.nospam@wanadoo.fr> writes:  > Jean-Luc wrote:  >>     <snip>  : > The French-speaking people can read more information on  > "fr.comp.securite.virus" >  Merci beaucoup.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:59:34 -0400   From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? 5 Message-ID: <1030920015614.3498C-100000@Ives.egh.com>   ) On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Dean Woodward wrote:    > leslie wrote: H > > The worm sends itself a very legitimately-looking messages that are G > > composed from different text strings hardcoded in the worm's body.  + > > Here is an example of such message:..."  > K > My ISP noticed that every one he's seen has a subject header that starts  K > with SUBJECT: rather than the more typical Subject:. As far as he knows,  A > no real mail program sets the subject header in all caps. FWIW.   E A co-worker just told me the same thing:  he said he searched all the D recent mail on our system and found that almost all the SPAM had allF the header tags (the stuff before the colon) in all caps and virtuallyA all the legitimate mail used either mixed case or lowercase tags.   C Can it really be that easy?  Or to put it another way, are spammers % and virus writers really that stupid?    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 03 09:12:39 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? ) Message-ID: <EJ1nwoTP5iCe@elias.decus.ch>   c In article <igFvGO6zHDLC@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: W > In article <dZLFASE9Oxar@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes: 9 >> More spams. Is this another virus / worm on the loose?  >>  R >> Since 13:44 CET yesterday I have received some 114 spam messages (oops, another& >> one just came in) in this  account. > 7 > Sorry, those executables are not compatible with VMS.  > J > You better hurry up and buy a Microsoft machine, because from the volumeK > of those messages it would appear that enormous numbers of the _existing_ I > Microsoft users are already ahead of you, getting the benefits ahead of  > you.   Awww shucks, I feel left out.   B I do have a Windows machine, but it has been switched off for moreL than a year now. The news/mail reader I used on it would not have exposed meI to this one, although it would have no doubt fallen victim to one or more J of the other exploits designed to attack software components I was unaware were probably running.  K My other PC runs SuSE Linux and is a lot more secure than _any_ VMS machine F exposed to the Internet. I can guarantee that nobody can break into it without physical access.**    F The timing of your post was entirely appropriate though, as I was thenH advising an ex-colleague on the perils of Apple's idea of a Swiss GermanI keyboard, as supplied with the iBook and Powerbook. For some inexplicable E reason the new PowerBooks only seem to be available here with a Swiss M keyboard, which as I have pointed out elsewhere is a truly pathetic effort if K you wish to work with the CLI or program in any language which uses braces,  square brackets or |.   A In our quest for an International English keybord we tried the UK D (too many cop-outs with warranty clauses), and Australia, both with G seriously higher prices than here, at which point we were both thinking A it would be easier to say "Blow it, I'll order a Dell" (obscenity  filters kick in here).  F Now this is extremely sad, because the guy I am helping said this in a
 recent email:    > OK, stuff I've found:  > + > http://www.adapower.net/macos/macosx.html  > A > This is GNAT for OS X.  Sounds like they need some help which I E > wouldn't mind giving once I get one of the bl%%dy things!  Bindings @ > and other bits and pieces.  Definitely worth a bit of support. > # > http://adaopengl.sourceforge.net/  > G > This is the OpenGL (GL, GLU, GLUT) binding.  I've done a quick change I > for Win32 (just change C to Stdcall for each pragma Import).  It should I > work with any Unix and should be easy enough to get running on OpenVMS.      L Now, if any Swiss readers can help us in our "Quest for a new PowerBook withB a decent programming keyboard", we would be glad to hear from you.  G ** the networking is broken with he latest SuSE release. No doubt it is H fixed by now, but I gave up in disgust that they could ship something soH broken. I see that Solaris is now free for Intel machines, so maybe I'llC get that, with the added bonus that AH is on hand in this newsgroup $ to guide me through any pitfalls :-)   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 03 09:22:51 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? ) Message-ID: <C7d06v+A6ABg@elias.decus.ch>   f In article <bkf18e$ctp$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>, gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) writes:c > In article <9YWIMd423d5$@eisner.encompasserve.org>, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes: W >>In article <dZLFASE9Oxar@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes: : >>> More spams. Is this another virus / worm on the loose? >>> S >>> Since 13:44 CET yesterday I have received some 114 spam messages (oops, another ' >>> one just came in) in this  account.  >>> N >>> Normally I just get 3 or 4 per day. Spam filters are in place and the lastM >>> time they were adjusted was for the last round of email attacks - SoBig.F  >>>  >>C >>	Here at Eisner I received 68 yesterday and had 160 this morning. = >>	Several more since then.  I've never seen such a flood of  ; >>	crud.  Several online tech articles talk about it.  This  >>	one is really raging. > O > Here the same. It is obviously a virus. Its mechanism is similar to SOBIG-F . P > If you look at the binary code you will see that it uses a bunch of strings to' > modify its from- and to-address, e.g.  >  > :From: *Microsoft*Services*  > :From: *Microsoft*Support* > :From: *Microsoft*System*  > :From: *Microsoft*Security*  > :From: *Microsoft*Bulletin*  > :FROM: *Microsoft*Assistance*  > :FROM: *MS*Security* > :FROM: *MS*Support*  > :FROM: *MS*System* > :FROM: *MS*Service*  > :FROM: *MS*Bulletin* > :FROM: *MS*Assistance* > 0 > and a few more. The same for the to-addresses: >  > :TO: *client*  > :TO: * user* > :TO: *receiver*  > :TO: *recipient* > :TO: *customer*  > I > The above may be used together with Multinet's SMTP_SERVER_REJECT file.  > B Thanks for that analysis Cristoph. What success rate have you had?   750 messages and rising...   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 03 09:44:35 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? ) Message-ID: <NRp$J8QIjrAC@elias.decus.ch>   k In article <3F6B63AA.8B532579@eps.zko.dec.com>, Hein van den Heuvel <hein_netscape@eps.zko.dec.com> writes:  > Well, 0 >     It may be a harversting from newsgroups... > O >         Paul S, Paul A, christof and CJT all appear (I can not tell for sure)  > toH >         have their Email address in 'plain view' in the usenet header. > M >         JFmezei has his spamnot interjection which may be all it takes as a  > shield (for now!)   F That could well be true. One of the conditions of using my news server2 is that I always post using a valid email address.   >  >         Crappy stuff.    Indeed.    ------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 03 10:13:58 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? ) Message-ID: <cTZBMYYYRDid@elias.decus.ch>   [ In article <00A2625A.2F8C3F8C.13@tachysoft.com>, Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> writes:  >>> B >>>> It's probably some poor bastard that has been strapped with aH >>>> Micro$haft box and just wants the rest of the world to feel his/her
 >>>> pain. >>> K >>>The sad thing is that most Windows users don't realize they're in pain.  6 >>>They have no idea "it doesn't have to be this way". >>H >>Sadly true.  People using PeeCees seem to think that what they have toE >>endure and experience is some pandora-ian pox that plagues all OSs.  >  > N > As I have said many times, this is the greatest damage billy has done to theQ > computer world, the widespread perception that *all* computers are as fucked up P > as billyboxes, and continual failures and screwups is simply the Way Computers > Work.   L As noted in one of the links given in this thread, with Outlook, the PreviewH Pane is sufficient to execute the virus. Now, I use Outlook at work, andD the guys in charge of that have done a first class job of locking itG down so that it cannot do any damage, but they still haven't managed to M find a way to switch off Preview as the default when you create a new folder.   L We are advised to switch it off manually; I certainly do, but looking aroundF the office, plenty don't, and we are the ones who should be setting an example.  I I'm feeling like sending Billy an invoice on this one. It is a shame that 8 I lost my disk space accounting routines many years ago:   $ dir/size=all/total [.mail]  " Directory DISK$MYDISK:[mydir.mail]  ) Total of 851 files, 210583/211616 blocks.  $   ! Now delete the junk, and we have: ' Total of 148 files, 12747/12932 blocks.   I Yep, that's getting close to 100 MB this crap has consumed since Thursday 
 afternoon. > M > It was a few years ago, but I am *still* laughing about a news report where J > billy got up in front of some conference and said "we have *got* to make > computers more reliable".  > P > What he meant of course was that he had to make *his* computers more reliable.E > Those of us not running billyboxes don't have reliability problems.  > Q > =============================================================================== P > Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com= > http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    Q > =============================================================================== P > Butler:"Gentlemen!"  Curly(as he and other Stooges look around):"Who came in?"   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:27:56 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? 0 Message-ID: <00A262D1.2C48F8DD@SendSpamHere.ORG>  U In article <cTZBMYYYRDid@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes: \ >In article <00A2625A.2F8C3F8C.13@tachysoft.com>, Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> writes: >>>>C >>>>> It's probably some poor bastard that has been strapped with a I >>>>> Micro$haft box and just wants the rest of the world to feel his/her  >>>>> pain.  >>>>L >>>>The sad thing is that most Windows users don't realize they're in pain. 7 >>>>They have no idea "it doesn't have to be this way".  >>> I >>>Sadly true.  People using PeeCees seem to think that what they have to F >>>endure and experience is some pandora-ian pox that plagues all OSs. >>   >>  O >> As I have said many times, this is the greatest damage billy has done to the R >> computer world, the widespread perception that *all* computers are as fucked upQ >> as billyboxes, and continual failures and screwups is simply the Way Computers  >> Work. > M >As noted in one of the links given in this thread, with Outlook, the Preview I >Pane is sufficient to execute the virus. Now, I use Outlook at work, and E >the guys in charge of that have done a first class job of locking it H >down so that it cannot do any damage, but they still haven't managed toN >find a way to switch off Preview as the default when you create a new folder. > M >We are advised to switch it off manually; I certainly do, but looking around G >the office, plenty don't, and we are the ones who should be setting an 	 >example.   E You should set an example for *ALL* PeeCee users.  Switch the damned   things off!   D I wonder if we could get PeeCee morons to believe that their PeeCeesE are being infected via the power outlet and to safeguard their PeeCee  they should keep it unplugged!   --L VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM             5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 07:40:44 -0500 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? / Message-ID: <00A262D2.F69309CB.7@tachysoft.com>    >>  L >> My ISP noticed that every one he's seen has a subject header that starts L >> with SUBJECT: rather than the more typical Subject:. As far as he knows, B >> no real mail program sets the subject header in all caps. FWIW. > F >A co-worker just told me the same thing:  he said he searched all theE >recent mail on our system and found that almost all the SPAM had all G >the header tags (the stuff before the colon) in all caps and virtually B >all the legitimate mail used either mixed case or lowercase tags. > D >Can it really be that easy?  Or to put it another way, are spammers& >and virus writers really that stupid?    F Quite possibly.  I found this stuff extremely easy to filter.  My spamN filtering was already pretty aggressive, almost psychotic, so none of the crapI *ever* made it through to vms mail to annoy me.  It was shunted to a spam K directory that I could either look at or ignore.  However, after adding the > following rejman rules, it isn't getting on the system at all.  O Note that the "To:" header is the easist to filter.  Nearly all of the messages L have something identifyable in that.  In fact, I pretty much reject anything2 that doesn't have my explicit email address in it.     Rule ID: 534     Header: To: *@*.net*Z     Added: 26-MAY-2002 13:15:00.39, Ref count: 172, Last ref date: 20-SEP-2003 07:12:03.53 --- 
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 Rule ID: 1778      Header: Subject: *New Pack* 4     Added: 19-SEP-2003 12:42:39.50, never referenced ---   O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== N Butler:"Gentlemen!"  Curly(as he and other Stooges look around):"Who came in?"   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:08:55 -0400 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? 2 Message-ID: <rHWdnVG85__E3vGiXTWJkg@metrocast.net>  6 "Paul Sture" <p_sture@elias.decus.ch> wrote in message# news:cTZBMYYYRDid@elias.decus.ch...    ...   F > As noted in one of the links given in this thread, with Outlook, the Preview J > Pane is sufficient to execute the virus. Now, I use Outlook at work, andF > the guys in charge of that have done a first class job of locking itI > down so that it cannot do any damage, but they still haven't managed to G > find a way to switch off Preview as the default when you create a new  folder.  > G > We are advised to switch it off manually; I certainly do, but looking  aroundH > the office, plenty don't, and we are the ones who should be setting an
 > example.  L One prudent thing that they *should* be able to do is to target email at theJ 'restricted' rather than the 'internet' zone - and then clamp the settings on 'restricted' down tight.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 07:46:30 -0500 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? 0 Message-ID: <00A262D3.C4958ACE.18@tachysoft.com>   > J >I'm feeling like sending Billy an invoice on this one. It is a shame that9 >I lost my disk space accounting routines many years ago:  >     M If billy had to *pay* for all the damage he caused, all his billions would be J consumed in about 11 minutes.  Never mind the actual damages, the pain andA suffering judgements alone would wipe him out several times over. O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== N Butler:"Gentlemen!"  Curly(as he and other Stooges look around):"Who came in?"   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Sep 2003 06:39:35 -0700. From: amcintosh@stmarytx.edu (Aubrey McIntosh)9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? < Message-ID: <3f4939c.0309200539.6a12fbc9@posting.google.com>  ] John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message news:<1030920015614.3498C-100000@Ives.egh.com>... + > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Dean Woodward wrote:  >   F I'm a regular poster in sci.electronics.design, and I am being hit, at= least 1,500 in the past while ~24 to ~36 hours.  It ramped up C exponentially.  The people there have had a similar discussion, and C both groups seem to find that they are targeted.  They observe that  SWEN is NEWS backwards.   C My email goes to a VMS box where I pick it up.  They have POP3, but B not IMAP4.  I am very unfamiliar with VMS, and have used mail, and then dir /start=nn
 del nn1-nn2     E I want to work on a terminal to VMS, because it seems a lot easier to A learn VMS and only send commands back and forth, than to download  everything.   ? I am only seeing about 17 or so messages per iteration.  I have E complete, absolute novice questions.  Normally, I would study and not B post.  Due to the overall circumstances, though, I want help here.  C 1.  Can I change a setting so that the mail output uses more of the A lines available in my terminal program?  I need a fairly specific @ example.  I'll go read everything available in help when pointedE there, but if there is something that 'everyone knows' that isn't put  in, "I'll be back."   F 2.  Can a user on a standard VMS box exploit the all caps character of, the "SUBJECT:" tag to eliminate these items?   Thanks   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:24:04 -0400 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? 2 Message-ID: <xdqcnVB8g5RqyfGiXTWJkg@metrocast.net>  5 "Wayne Sewell" <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote in message ) news:00A262D2.F69309CB.7@tachysoft.com...    ...   H > Note that the "To:" header is the easist to filter.  Nearly all of the messagesE > have something identifyable in that.  In fact, I pretty much reject  anything4 > that doesn't have my explicit email address in it.  B I'd never noticed before (at least not in any context that made itK interesting enough to remember) that mail gets delivered to my mailbox with H all kinds of random, general addresses.  It seems like the equivalent ofL 'occupant' in snail mail:  I'd certainly rather get only what's addressed to5 me personally, and wonder why that isn't the default.    - bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:17:06 GMT 4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? = Message-ID: <CjZab.111617$mp.55066@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>   m In article <3f4939c.0309200539.6a12fbc9@posting.google.com>, amcintosh@stmarytx.edu (Aubrey McIntosh) writes:  !snip!D !My email goes to a VMS box where I pick it up.  They have POP3, butC !not IMAP4.  I am very unfamiliar with VMS, and have used mail, and  !then dir /start=nn  !del nn1-nn2   ! F !I want to work on a terminal to VMS, because it seems a lot easier toB !learn VMS and only send commands back and forth, than to download !everything. ! @ !I am only seeing about 17 or so messages per iteration.  I haveF !complete, absolute novice questions.  Normally, I would study and notC !post.  Due to the overall circumstances, though, I want help here.  !   M When I first started posting here, I made the newbie mistake of "not studying + and posting".  No one here bit my head off.   F OT - if you are interested in a little on-line tutorial, try this one:  , http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wbt/pc/welcome.htm  D !1.  Can I change a setting so that the mail output uses more of theB !lines available in my terminal program?  I need a fairly specificA !example.  I'll go read everything available in help when pointed F !there, but if there is something that 'everyone knows' that isn't put !in, "I'll be back." !   C If you have access to the "$", then you can type the command, "$set N terminal/inqire", which will allow your terminal emulator to use all the linesK available in your screen.  If that does not work, try, "$set term/page=nn", F where "nn" equals the number of lines your terminal emulator displays.    G !2.  Can a user on a standard VMS box exploit the all caps character of - !the "SUBJECT:" tag to eliminate these items?  !  !Thanks   J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" K bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'  0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:25:40 GMT 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? L Message-ID: <rdeininger-2009031034240001@user-105n97l.dialup.mindspring.com>  < In article <3f4939c.0309200539.6a12fbc9@posting.google.com>,/ amcintosh@stmarytx.edu (Aubrey McIntosh) wrote:   , >John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message1 news:<1030920015614.3498C-100000@Ives.egh.com>... , >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Dean Woodward wrote: >>   ...   F >I want to work on a terminal to VMS, because it seems a lot easier toB >learn VMS and only send commands back and forth, than to download >everything. > @ >I am only seeing about 17 or so messages per iteration.  I haveF >complete, absolute novice questions.  Normally, I would study and notC >post.  Due to the overall circumstances, though, I want help here.  > D >1.  Can I change a setting so that the mail output uses more of theB >lines available in my terminal program?  I need a fairly specificA >example.  I'll go read everything available in help when pointed F >there, but if there is something that 'everyone knows' that isn't put >in, "I'll be back."  H If you know how many lines your terminal program thinks it has, you need  to tell VMS when you you log in.   The command  $ SHOW TERMINAL I tells you what VMS thinks your terminal characteristics are.  "Width" and 8 "Page" are the number of columns and rows, respectively.  N If you have a terminal emulator, it likely claims to emulate a VT100 terminal.  * You might want to use a command like this:1 $ SET TERMINAL/DEVICE_TYPE=VT100/PAGE=xx/WIDTH=yy   O These setting last for the rest of the terminal session unless you change them.   C Also see HELP SET TERMINAL for many more things you can adjust.  In G particular, you may want /INSERT or /OVERSTRIKE, it is very annoying if ( the default is not what you are used to.  I You can put appropriate SET TERMINAL commands in your LOGIN.COM file, and + they will be executed each time you log in.   H Some people put SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE in their login.com, which makes VMSH ask the terminal about its characteristics.  But it can cause delays andF other problems if a terminal emulator doesn't respond correctly, and I) find it is more trouble than it is worth.   H If you have found the OpenVMS documentation on the web, see the "OpenVMSG User's Guide" for lots of stuff useful to new (and experienced) users.   Start at   www.hp.com/go/openvms     G >2.  Can a user on a standard VMS box exploit the all caps character of - >the "SUBJECT:" tag to eliminate these items?   O Not with the standard Mail utility.  Maybe with the freeware "Deliver" program.    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:27:35 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? ) Message-ID: <bkhrl7$35p$2@news.mdx.ac.uk>   _ In article <xdqcnVB8g5RqyfGiXTWJkg@metrocast.net>, "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:  > 6 >"Wayne Sewell" <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote in message* >news:00A262D2.F69309CB.7@tachysoft.com... >  >....  > I >> Note that the "To:" header is the easist to filter.  Nearly all of the 	 >messages F >> have something identifyable in that.  In fact, I pretty much reject	 >anything 5 >> that doesn't have my explicit email address in it.  > C >I'd never noticed before (at least not in any context that made it L >interesting enough to remember) that mail gets delivered to my mailbox withI >all kinds of random, general addresses.  It seems like the equivalent of M >'occupant' in snail mail:  I'd certainly rather get only what's addressed to 6 >me personally, and wonder why that isn't the default. >   J Yes. The from and to addresses you see when you look at a mail message areB equivalent to the addresses you put at the top of a formal letter.N The addresses used to deliver the message are in the message envelope which is( discarded when the message is delivered.  M The reason why these from and to addresses can be set to anything is to allow L for mailing/distribution lists to put in a short name - usually the name of 6 the list - rather than listing out all the recipients.  
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University     >- bill  >  >  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:55:01 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way? ) Message-ID: <bkht8l$43r$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>   Z In article <00A262D2.F69309CB.7@tachysoft.com>, Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> writes: >>> M >>> My ISP noticed that every one he's seen has a subject header that starts  M >>> with SUBJECT: rather than the more typical Subject:. As far as he knows,  C >>> no real mail program sets the subject header in all caps. FWIW.  >>G >>A co-worker just told me the same thing:  he said he searched all the F >>recent mail on our system and found that almost all the SPAM had allH >>the header tags (the stuff before the colon) in all caps and virtuallyC >>all the legitimate mail used either mixed case or lowercase tags.  >>E >>Can it really be that easy?  Or to put it another way, are spammers ' >>and virus writers really that stupid?  >   M Unfortunately there are a number of mailhubs out there which are cleaning out N the virus and then delivering the message - They also correct little telltales such as the SUBJECT      eg  + Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:59:48 -0500 (CDT)  From: anfcgasi@updates.msdn.com  Subject: Network Security Patch . To: Customer <qetmji.lpxnhna@updates.msdn.com>B Message-id: <200309201459.h8KExmbp020189@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 / X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine 4 X-Virus-Scan-Result: Repaired 42036 Worm.Automat.AHB! X-PMAS-Software: PreciseMail V1.0 C X-PMAS-HDR-NO_REAL_NAME: From: does not include a real name (0.000)  X-PMAS-Not-Spam: 0.000E X-Comment: Middlesex University has scanned this message for viruses. 3 Original-recipient: rfc822;david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk    2687.1.0.0 [multipart/related]" 2687.1.1.0 [multipart/alternative]! 2687.1.1.1 [text/plain; 29 lines] ! 2687.1.1.2 [text/html; 134 lines]  2687.1.2.0 [image/gif; 4 Kb]! 2687.1.3.0 [image/gif; 359 bytes]   2687.2.0.0 [text/plain; 4 lines]  % The final text/plain part containing       file attachment: PACK693.exe  O This e-mail in its original form contained one or more attached files that were I infected with the Worm.Automat.AHB virus or worm. They have been removed. K For more information on Road Runner's virus filtering initiative, visit our J Help & Member Services pages at http://help.rr.com, or the virus filteringA information page directly at http://help.rr.com/faqs/e_mgsp.html.              > G >Quite possibly.  I found this stuff extremely easy to filter.  My spam O >filtering was already pretty aggressive, almost psychotic, so none of the crap J >*ever* made it through to vms mail to annoy me.  It was shunted to a spamL >directory that I could either look at or ignore.  However, after adding the? >following rejman rules, it isn't getting on the system at all.  > P >Note that the "To:" header is the easist to filter.  Nearly all of the messagesM >have something identifyable in that.  In fact, I pretty much reject anything 3 >that doesn't have my explicit email address in it.  >  > 
 >Rule ID: 534  >    Header: To: *@*.net* [ >    Added: 26-MAY-2002 13:15:00.39, Ref count: 172, Last ref date: 20-SEP-2003 07:12:03.53  >--- >Rule ID: 1771 >    Header: To: *Customer*XZ >    Added: 18-SEP-2003 21:10:09.16, Ref count: 32, Last ref date: 20-SEP-2003 05:55:44.21 >--- >Rule ID: 1772+ >    Header: *Microsoft Technical Bulletin* Y >    Added: 18-SEP-2003 21:10:37.47, Ref count: 1, Last ref date: 19-SEP-2003 15:18:05.90h >--- >Rule ID: 1773' >    Header: *MS*Corporation*Technical* Y >    Added: 18-SEP-2003 21:11:32.59, Ref count: 4, Last ref date: 20-SEP-2003 01:34:35.77? >--- >Rule ID: 1774 >    Header: To: *MS Partner*e5 >    Added: 18-SEP-2003 21:11:51.12, never referencedl >--- >Rule ID: 1775 >    Header: *MS*Corporation* Z >    Added: 18-SEP-2003 21:12:54.65, Ref count: 37, Last ref date: 20-SEP-2003 05:32:29.08 >--- >Rule ID: 1771 >    Header: To: *recipient*Z >    Added: 18-SEP-2003 22:10:20.05, Ref count: 23, Last ref date: 20-SEP-2003 03:21:48.45 >--- >Rule ID: 1772 >    Header: To: *Consumer* Z >    Added: 19-SEP-2003 08:21:02.51, Ref count: 11, Last ref date: 20-SEP-2003 02:36:28.46 >--- >Rule ID: 1773( >    Header: Subject: *Microsoft Update*Y >    Added: 19-SEP-2003 08:21:35.96, Ref count: 1, Last ref date: 19-SEP-2003 12:49:39.13o >--- >Rule ID: 1774 >    Header: To: *Microsoft*Y >    Added: 19-SEP-2003 08:22:12.96, Ref count: 2, Last ref date: 19-SEP-2003 13:46:35.13a >--- >Rule ID: 1775 >    Header: To: *Partner*Y >    Added: 19-SEP-2003 08:26:19.21, Ref count: 8, Last ref date: 19-SEP-2003 21:54:16.44t >--- >Rule ID: 1776 >    Header: To: *ms.com*t5 >    Added: 19-SEP-2003 08:27:15.86, never referencedn >--- >Rule ID: 1777 >    Header: To: *Receiver*oY >    Added: 19-SEP-2003 11:33:41.21, Ref count: 7, Last ref date: 20-SEP-2003 02:50:24.16p >--- >Rule ID: 1778  >    Header: Subject: *New Pack*5 >    Added: 19-SEP-2003 12:42:39.50, never referenceds >---  K Probably OK for an individual who knows what mail he receives but a bit too-& aggressive for filtering on a mailhub.L For instance I'd expect that Rule 1774 would probably catch any mail sent to' both yourself and someone at Microsoft.     
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University         >tP >===============================================================================O >Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.comr< >http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html   P >===============================================================================O >Butler:"Gentlemen!"  Curly(as he and other Stooges look around):"Who came in?"w   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:20:45 -0400S) From: JFmezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>w9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?n) Message-ID: <3F6C7E5A.C885744B@istop.com>f   Aubrey McIntosh wrote:H > 2.  Can a user on a standard VMS box exploit the all caps character of. > the "SUBJECT:" tag to eliminate these items?  L The X windows MAIL should be able to do this. You can search the contents ofI messages for some text, and in the options, there is a check box for caserJ sensitive searches. Unfortunatly, the case sensitive thing doesn't seem to< work and it will return any case combination of SUBJECT: :-)  : However, you can search for .exe or other tell tale sign.   M Select the folder, then menu PICK -> PICK FROM SELECTED FOLDER, and then filla/ out the Text: input box with the search string.a  N With character cell MAIL, the DIR command doesn't have that functionality, and< the SEARCH command will only give you one message at a time.   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 03 19:07:17 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)h9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?u) Message-ID: <wBWaq64EEqpZ@elias.decus.ch>l  U In article <00A262D1.2C48F8DD@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:e > G > You should set an example for *ALL* PeeCee users.  Switch the damned t
 > things off!. >(   Oh, please don't tempt me:-)  .F > I wonder if we could get PeeCee morons to believe that their PeeCeesG > are being infected via the power outlet and to safeguard their PeeCees  > they should keep it unplugged! > J Nah, you've got it wrong Brian. I once saved some time by using MS Access,# and printed pretty, so that was OK.u   Once about 5 years ago.o  I But the product that linked incoming phone calls with the company addresssD book, and recorded who had  called when you were away from your desk was deemed too expensive.   
 Go figure.   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 03 19:34:18 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)d9 Subject: Re: A flood of spams - another virus on the way?w) Message-ID: <utg2TLb22fBa@elias.decus.ch>m  [ In article <00A262D3.C4958ACE.18@tachysoft.com>, Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> writes:  >>K >>I'm feeling like sending Billy an invoice on this one. It is a shame thata: >>I lost my disk space accounting routines many years ago: >> >  > O > If billy had to *pay* for all the damage he caused, all his billions would beoL > consumed in about 11 minutes.  Never mind the actual damages, the pain andC > suffering judgements alone would wipe him out several times over.w  G Well, I think I posted this idea around the time that Loudmouth BallmervF was claiming that the reliability and productivity of Windows XP would8 save an hour a (now I forget - was it a week or a day?).   X thousand employees 200 working days per yearsH Forget what you see on your payslip, think about what your company cross; charges you at to cover buildings, insurance, canteens etc.s    It is a very substantial figure.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:50:41 GMTw8 From: "Tom Simpson" <thomas.simpson1@nospam.comcast.net>) Subject: Advanced Server software support / Message-ID: <Bz%ab.392648$Oz4.178583@rwcrnsc54>t  % Maybe someone could help me out here.'  J This past week I have been trying to get a price on adding Advanced ServerD 7.3 support to our software maintenance contract.  Unfortunately, HPI contract administration does not return phone calls.  The phone number onaL our maintenance invoice (770-343-7505) gets you a voice mail only, no way toL exit to an operator.  I've called several time over the last 5 days and leftJ at least 3 voice mail messages.  Yesterday morning, in desperation, I wentG to the support web site and filled out the contact request form I found L there.  So far nothing.  Is it unreasonable to expect a return phone call in	 24 hours?o   My questions are:r  E 1. How do I contact the contracts administrator to make changes to my K hardware/software maintenance contract?  The contract administrators at thea5 number we were given do not return their phone calls.k  K 2. Does anyone know approximately how much it costs for Pathworks (Advanced L Server) product support?  The systems in question are a 2-node ES40 cluster.G We are currently running VMS 7.2-1.  We are upgrading to VMS 7.3-1 this9 month.  D This is really crappy contract support!  Thank goodness our customerJ engineers are a whole LOT more dependable than the folks that are supposed to be supporting them...   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:01:31 GMTn2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)) Subject: Re: DS10 vs. DS40 and HP supportbL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2009031010160001@user-105n97l.dialup.mindspring.com>  1 In article <3F6BAA9C.8B6133B3@istop.com>, JFmezei " <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:   >Robert Deininger wrote:L >> Ask the rep if he's willing to have his contact info posted here.  Or askL >> him to post it himself.  Too many people seem to be getting the runaroundK >> from HP for Alpha purchases.  I believe a solution to this problem woulda8 >> be extremely relevant and appreciated in comp.os.vms. >sN >Is there an existing process already ? Isn't the official way to contact Sue,O >get her to put you in touch with an Ambassador, and then all your problems arel	 >solved ?   H I don't believe that's the official "right" way, and Sue and most of herI ambassadors probably can't take a customer's order.  They have visibilityeJ and lots of contacts within HP.  But the request would still bounce around several times.  G For a customer who knows what he wants to buy but who can't get through*F the red tape, access to an HP sales rep willing and able to accept theI order would seem ideal.  That seems so obvious, I think I'll add a "Doh!"O1 for the nice folks in HP who create the red tape.S   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:40:59 GMT ' From: Lee Clark <clarklk@earthlink.net> + Subject: Re: HELP: Using CLI with C program*1 Message-ID: <BB91B475.8CF5%clarklk@earthlink.net>    A few observations...e  L I think lib$get_command is for use with foreign commands; you should not mixH foreign cmommand-handling and CLI command-handling. Cli$dcl_parse can beL made to parse the command line that was used to start the program, if that'sL your aim (it wasn't clear from your sample run that that is your intentions, though).  J I think your function "test" has to return a value. You have to add a callK to cli$dispatch (? -- I don't have docs handy) in order to actually processr the command.  I You need a condition handler -- cli$dcl_parse (?) and cli$dispatch signala errors.i  - I assume your MAX_INPUT is defined somewhere.   L Your call to printf passes input.dsc$a_pointer to use with a %s, but I don't5 see the string in inputStr receiving a terminating 0.i  F Why not compile and link /debug so you can follow the execution of the program with the debugger?     On 9/15/03 12:12 PM, in articlea> f401eb7f.0309150812.9b5d9c0@posting.google.com, "Nom de Plume"! <soccer13player@yahoo.com> wrote:-  E > What I want to do is have a program that can act as a command line,uE > like AUTHORIZE does.  Parse the line using a defined command table,e > and run a routine. >  > I have a C program:  >  > #include <stdio.h> > #include <limits.h>m > #include <descrip.h> > #include <lib$routines.h>  > #include <cli$routines.h>b >  > void test (void);p > 	 > main ()> > {o > extern int efsmgr; > unsigned long status;t  > struct dsc$descriptor_s input; > char inputStr[MAX_INPUT]; " > $DESCRIPTOR (prompt,"EFSMGR> "); > unsigned short inputLen; > $ > input.dsc$b_class = DSC$K_CLASS_S;$ > input.dsc$b_dtype = DSC$K_DTYPE_T;! > input.dsc$a_pointer = inputStr;o! > input.dsc$w_length = MAX_INPUT;a > 8 > status = lib$get_command (&input, &prompt, &inputLen);@ > status = cli$dcl_parse (&input, &efsmgr, lib$get_input, 0, 0); > ; > (void) printf ("%s %d\n", input.dsc$a_pointer, inputLen);e > }u >  > void test (void) >    { >    return; >    } >  > I have a CLD file: >  > MODULE efsmgr  > IDENT "V0.1" >  > DEFINE VERB starth >      ROUTINE testo> >      PARAMETER P1, PROMPT="Facility", VALUE (REQUIRED, LIST, > TYPE=facility) >      NOQUALIFIERSh >  > DEFINE TYPE facility >      KEYWORD all >  >  >  >  > deva>cc efsmgr( > deva>set command/object efsmgr_cld.cld > deva>link efsmgr, efsmgr_cld > deva>run efsmgrl > EFSMGR> start alleH > %CLI-W-BUFOVF, command buffer overflow - shorten expression or command > line1 > %TRACE-W-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump followso9 > image    module    routine             line      rel PCs > abs PC> >                                           0 FFFFFFFF800888B4 > FFFFFFFF800888B4> >                                           0 FFFFFFFF800888B4 > FFFFFFFF800888B4> >                                           0 FFFFFFFF800888B4 > FFFFFFFF800888B4? > EFSMGR                                     0 0000000000010554' > 0000000000020554? > EFSMGR  EFSMGR  main                    6620 0000000000000154t > 0000000000020154? > EFSMGR  EFSMGR  __main                     0 0000000000000064o > 0000000000020064> >                                           0 FFFFFFFF8028F59C > FFFFFFFF8028F59C > start allf >  >  >                  k. >                                            9 >  >  > Jasonb   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:28:22 +0100=0 From: "Dr. David Kirkby" <drkirkby@ntlworld.com>" Subject: Re: HP hardware "support", Message-ID: <3F6C39D6.373D0B79@ntlworld.com>   Rich Jordan wrote:  E > P.S. third call just ended.  It rang four times, clicked, then dead=3 > air.  Sure feels like peecee class support to me.   F I had a different, but none the less annoying experience trying to getC some help when my Tru64 Enthusiasts Pack did not seem to have valid:E passwords - they contained less fields than what the license software  wanted.n  G Okay, I bought a cheap product and don't expect gold-level service, but * what I got was most annoying at the time.   H The struggle was to find anyone inside HP that could find the word tru64C on their computers. Several people just denied all knowledge of the G existence of tru64.  I asked one person if she would search the HP site>F on the web to see that tru64 does exits, but was told she did not haveB access to the web. Since nobody seemed to know that HP sold tru64,@ nobody knew who on earth I was supposed to contact for support.    Someone once asked:>  & Is it a Compaq product or an HP one ?   F Well I don't know is the answer to that one, as some parts of the packD say Dec, other parts Compaq and other parts HP. There was no obvious part number for the product. m  F Finally, after what was probably a couple of hours ringing HP sites inD the UK and the USA, I finally got to speak to someone in the UK thatG supported Tru64. Following his suggestions, which was to manually entereB the information into a license file with a text editor, everything
 worked okay. f  F I rather get the feeling HP are abandoning Tru64 in favor of HP-UX. ItD seems a bit odd to have what are two quite similar products. I guessC Tru64 might have been a Compaq product, but I don't know for sure. n   --  A "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably  > the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge.   Dr. David Kirkby,t Senior Research Fellow,a Department of Medical Physics, University College London," 11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA., Website: http://www.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/~davek- Author of 'atlc' http://atlc.sourceforge.net/    ------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 2003 05:13 CDTe' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)o< Subject: Re: HP Spends $750MM advertising Windows & printers- Message-ID: <20SEP200305130187@gerg.tamu.edu>   ' "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes...b }$0.00 spent on advertising VMS- }  } J }http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=14800303 }  } L }......The effort, called Smart Office, represents a $750 million investmentK }by HP that Carly Fiorina, chairman and CEO, says is designed to help smallt- }and midsize businesses meet all their needs.sL }By some estimates, the IT market for small and midsize companies to be moreF }than $300 billion. According to Fiorina, HP already has a significantL }presence there: nine out of 10 small and midsize business currently have anK }HP product, and last year, more than $21 billion in HP's revenue came frome$ }small and midsize business. .......    G But probably at least 90 out of 100 of those that have HP products onlysC have HP printers. Many of the rest have only printers and scanners.a   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 13:39:45 +0200I$ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>< Subject: Re: HP Spends $750MM advertising Windows & printers9 Message-ID: <bkheqm$1l5oc$4@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>   * On 2003-09-20 12:13, "Carl Perkins" wrote:   > [...]r > I > But probably at least 90 out of 100 of those that have HP products only E > have HP printers. Many of the rest have only printers and scanners.T  ' Don't forget pocket calculators ... ;-)    Michaelm   --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers.h@ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system.0= And don't annoy me <mailto:postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> please ;-)2   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:48:25 GMTE- From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>e6 Subject: Mailing lists unsubscribed from mail box full< Message-ID: <dF_ab.1698$iT4.1145278@news1.news.adelphia.net>  H If any of you are having mailbox quota full problems because of Viruses,  G Please remember to check your subscription status on any mailing lists 2 that you are on.   -Johna wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:29:18 +02005$ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>% Subject: Re: Need quotes for a system 9 Message-ID: <bkheqj$1l5oc$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>a  . On 2003-09-20 02:56, "Robert Deininger" wrote:  ? > In article <ea44f5a1.0309191008.3d911fcb@posting.google.com>, ( > tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) wrote: > 1 >>Can you still get DS10/466 systems new from HP?n >>A >>So far, the only quote that I have is for a refurbished system.e >>5 >>I thought I saw a new system listed on the HP site.r > L > This question has come up several times lately.  I just (re)checked the HP4 > Alphaserver web page, and the DS10 is still shown. > ( > http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/ > J > Are you able to talk to an above-room-temperature person at HP and get a% > direct answer to the DS10 question?   H I recently talked to a reseller who told me the last *oder* date for theF DS10 would be Sep 30th; DS15s should be orderable now but I didn't see+ any official announcement on HP's web site.e   > [...]- > L > If you can't order a DS10 now, I expect getting a DS15 in a few weeks willL > be just as hard.  I wonder what the excuse will be for that system.  "Sold& > Out" will be a difficult to believe.   Michael-   -- :; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers.=@ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system.m= And don't annoy me <mailto:postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> please ;-)    ------------------------------   Date: 20 Sep 2003 06:03 CDT=' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)y+ Subject: Re: newbie multinet, wasd questionm- Message-ID: <20SEP200306032217@gerg.tamu.edu>e  g In article <d1936a6b.0309192102.2900c616@posting.google.com>, syncitium443@yahoo.com (steved) writes...m }Hello,e } 8 }I am a newcomer to VMS looking for some help with wasd.L }I have VMS 7.2 with multinet 4.4 running.  I was able to get wasd built andJ }running, and all seemed fine until a reboot.  Since the reboot, trying to2 }start wasd with the DEMO command procedure gives: } 2 }%HTTPD-E-SOFTWAREID, HTTPd-WASD/8.3.1 OpenVMS/AXP$ }-HTTPD-E-WHERE, module:NET line:355 }-HTTPD-E-WHAT, end of filej } B }It seems that it is failing at a call to gethostname() in net.c. B }at DCL: show logical MULTINET_HOST_NAME gives the expected value,M }but a simple C test of gethostname() fills the buffer with: "UCX$INET_HOST,"uM }which is not set, and I really don't expect it to be set as multinet is the a }only TCP/IP stack installed.n } > }Can anyone help this newbie understand what is going on here?  B Multinet will define the UCX$INET_HOST logical when it is started.D THis is in MULTINET:START_MULTINET.COM, as well as severl other UCX$ type logical names.-  E You may have to set "Load UCX $QIO driver" to true in MULTINET CONFIGe9 to get it to do this, but I thought that was the default.   F The section in the startup file that defines these is looks like this:   $ ! * $ ! Load the UCX-compatible $QIO interface $ !h@ $ If F$Search("MULTINET:UCXDRIVER.EXE") .Eqs. "" Then Goto NoUCX   .. relevant stuff is here ...b   $NoUCX:    --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:23:03 +0100n0 From: "Dr. David Kirkby" <drkirkby@ntlworld.com>9 Subject: Re: OpenVMS hobbyyest - free to join or not ????e, Message-ID: <3F6C2A87.98BCF003@ntlworld.com>   Robert Deininger wrote:=  G > Depending on the platform, you may find that the battery-backed-watch C > contains a "bad" date/time when you switch OS's.  T64 and VMS useaK > different formats for date/time, and if VMS doesn't like the date/time it=L > sees during boot, it will prompt for it (and save it in the BBW).  I don't > know how T64 deals with this.-  C It won't be a major hassle anyway - it is hardly a mission critical@D server where the date must be right. If its a few years out, it wont make a big difference. s  -$ > What kind of system do you have?    % Swc Alpha Personal Workstation 600a. o  / > Do you have an available external SCSI port? 0  E Someone else suggested an external disk, then I kicked myself for not'G thinking of it earlier. However, since you asked the question I thoughtsG I'd check and discovered that there is no SCSI connector on the rear! I.< can't believe this - a SCSI machine with no SCSI connector!   @ The machine has an IDE CD-ROM drive. I did once try very quicklyG borrowing a 120 Gb IDE drive and found I could make a Tru64 file systemhA on it, but given 99% of the equipment I have here is only SCSI, Ih$ probably wont buy a cheap IDE disk.    -- nA "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably  > the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge.   Dr. David Kirkby,v Senior Research Fellow,e Department of Medical Physics, University College London," 11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA., Website: http://www.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/~davek- Author of 'atlc' http://atlc.sourceforge.net/r   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:41:55 +0100 0 From: "Dr. David Kirkby" <drkirkby@ntlworld.com>9 Subject: Re: OpenVMS hobbyyest - free to join or not ????l, Message-ID: <3F6C2EF3.E3FF0469@ntlworld.com>   "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote:w   > I > >    You can join Encompass as an associate (free) and get the hobbyiste > >    license.p > H > It is unclear whether that is for UK residents too. The web page where > one joins Emcompass- > ; > https://secure2.sba.com/encompass/memberApp/associate.cfmb > C > asks no questions about your country and is clearly US orientatedt > (State, ZIP code). x  ? I just thought I'd say I was able to get a DECUS ID number froms Encompass in the USA g  / http://www.encompassus.org/membership/join.html.   for zero cost. h    F That seems somewhat better value than paying the 52.88 (~ $88) to get it fromg  ? http://www.hp-interex.org/site/shop/shopsublistnonmem.asp?id=91    in the UK. v   -- pA "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably t> the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge.   Dr. David Kirkby,d Senior Research Fellow,  Department of Medical Physics, University College London," 11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA., Website: http://www.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/~davek- Author of 'atlc' http://atlc.sourceforge.net/t   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:04:48 +0000 (UTC)3? From: Graham Burley <burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org>o9 Subject: Re: OpenVMS hobbyyest - free to join or not ????y9 Message-ID: <3F6C4F98.4EEB4062@encompasserve-or-this.org>t   Dr. David Kirkby wrote:9 > A > I just thought I'd say I was able to get a DECUS ID number frome > Encompass in the USA > 1 > http://www.encompassus.org/membership/join.htmlT >  > for zero cost. > H > That seems somewhat better value than paying the 52.88 (~ $88) to get	 > it from  > A > http://www.hp-interex.org/site/shop/shopsublistnonmem.asp?id=91e >  > in the UK. >   @ I really don't understand what the UK HPUG are on about. They'reA advertising 6 types of membership this year, only 3 with Hobbyistt> entitlement. The Hobbyist License membership is qualified with= "one renewal only", and costs more than subscription to their ; technical journal. I hope this means that they are making ag/ generous contribution to the folks at Montagar.      > Dr. David Kirkby,e > Senior Research Fellow,-  > Department of Medical Physics, > University College London,  F Ah! You might well find VMS media easier than you think - someone from4 UCL Mech Eng posts to comp.os.vms from time to time.     Graham   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 13:53:54 GMTa2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)9 Subject: Re: OpenVMS hobbyyest - free to join or not ????tL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2009031002380001@user-105n97l.dialup.mindspring.com>  ? In article <3F6C2A87.98BCF003@ntlworld.com>, "Dr. David Kirkby"e <drkirkby@ntlworld.com> wrote:   >Robert Deininger wrote: > H >> Depending on the platform, you may find that the battery-backed-watchD >> contains a "bad" date/time when you switch OS's.  T64 and VMS useL >> different formats for date/time, and if VMS doesn't like the date/time itM >> sees during boot, it will prompt for it (and save it in the BBW).  I don't_  >> know how T64 deals with this. >_D >It won't be a major hassle anyway - it is hardly a mission criticalE >server where the date must be right. If its a few years out, it wontt >make a big difference.   I The problem is that many (most?) valid T64 times are not valid VMS times,2 and vice versa.4    % >> What kind of system do you have?  b > % >Swc Alpha Personal Workstation 600a.m  J Is that the same as a "Digital Personal Workstation 600a".  There are veryA different systems with similar names, it is easy to get confused.1  C The DPW "a" series systems don't officially support VMS.  They wereoH configured and sold to support Windows NT.  The DPW 600au (and the other6 "au" systems) were configured and sold for T64 or VMS.  I To make matters worse, all of the above came in "old" and "new" versions,aH where some core parts on the motherboard changed (for the better) on theG new ones.  They didn't change the names of the systems at all when theyo went from "old" to "new".   J IIRC (vague memory, and I don't have the details at hand) the old hardwareG was sufficiently substandard that VMS cannot use the IDE CD-ROM at all, G and there are some PCI slot restrictions.  Both old and new versions ofnE the "a" series had the additional problem that they shipped with someeG adapters (typically graphics) for which there are no device drivers forfE VMS.  If you put in supported adapters, VMS will work on the systems.   " This is what the OpenVMS FAQ says:I "          14.4.4  OpenVMS on the Personal Workstation -a and -au series?i  B                    Though OpenVMS is not supported on the PersonalJ                    Workstation -a series platforms, OpenVMS might or might1                    not bootstrap on the platform.e  H                    If you wish to attempt this, you must ensure that allE                    graphics and all I/O controllers in the system areHF                    supported by OpenVMS. You must also ensure that you:                    have the most current firmware loaded."     > 0 >> Do you have an available external SCSI port?  >TF >Someone else suggested an external disk, then I kicked myself for notH >thinking of it earlier. However, since you asked the question I thoughtH >I'd check and discovered that there is no SCSI connector on the rear! I= >can't believe this - a SCSI machine with no SCSI connector!    G The SCSI controller is on the motherboard, and it supports the internalt> drives.  You can always add plug-in adapters if you need more.  G IMHO, the DPW series was one of the low points of Alpha hardware designp and marketing.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:40:21 -0400   From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>' Subject: Re: Reimport VMS mail problems 5 Message-ID: <1030920012604.3498B-100000@Ives.egh.com>c  $ On 19 Sep 2003, David Balazic wrote:  ^ > carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) wrote in message news:<16SEP200318175699@gerg.tamu.edu>...] > > In article <3f675700$1@news.si.com>, "Brian Tillman" <Tillman@sparkingwire.com> writes... / > > }>Why do you think he said that? He didn't.  > > } # > > }Because I read his sentence:  D > > } K > > }>On OpenVMS V7.3-1, I extracted my mails ( EXTRACT/ALL myfile.txt ) to, > > }>save disk space. > > }-- N > > }Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com > >  > > To which you replied:. > > P > > }Why do you think that extracting the mail and reimporting it will save disk > > }space?a > >   > > Which is not the same thing. > > H > > It is not what you said: extracting + reimporting = save disk space.@ > > It is instead: extracting and compressing = save disk space. > > H > > He extracted the mail and compressed the resulting text file to saveH > > space. And it does save space. Probably more than 50%. There is onlyM > > one assumption: that after extracting them to the text file the originalshI > > were deleted an the space reclaimed (the COMPRESS command in mail can K > > be very nice to use after you have deleted a bunch of messages when you L > > are short on disk space, or disk quota). This is a safe assumption sinceK > > if they were not deleted he wouldn't need to import them to get at them & > > since they would already be there. > >  > > --- Carl >  > Nice analysis, Carl :-)e > 0 > To clear up any doubts, here is what happened.= >  - I was running low on disk space ( disk quota, actually ) . >  - I had a lot of mail messages ( over 200 )G >  - so I extracted the messages to a file and then deleted them in thei > MAIL utilityE >    This already saved a lot of space, since the messages are stored3? > one message per file, and each file takes 64kb as that is theRG > allocation unit on the system ( and I used to laught at DOS users for$ > their 8kb clusters ... ).c  D There's your problem.  125 block clustersize is ridiculous on a disk' with many small files.  It will take a     backup/image disk: save_set:, " init/cluster=somethingreasonable, ( backup/image save_set:/save disk:/noinit   to convert it.  - Prior to VMS V7.2, the minimum clustersize ise.   (disk size in number of blocks)/(255 * 4096)  " For V7.2 and later, the minimum is0   (disk size in number of blocks)/(65535 * 4096)  B The only excuse for this clustersize is if you are running V7.1 or$ older and have a disk at least 62GB.  F >  - then I compressed the file with the extracted files. This saved a > few more blocks. > A > After that I had access again to my POP3 client, so I wanted torG > reimport the messages into the mail system, so I could suck them overlG > to the POP3 client ( mozilla-1.4 running on my win2000pro workstation  > ). > G > It seems that the import problem were not caused by gzip. I extracted F > again some messages and tried to re-import them right away and I got > the same problem.cD > I also tried to extract with the /MAIL qualifier ( which creates aG > *.MAI file instead of *.txt ), but has the same problem. It seems the 1 > VMS MAIL utility can not read its own files :-(n > 
 > Regards, > DavidR >  >    -- o John SantosB Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:04:17 +0000 (UTC)-? From: Graham Burley <burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org>sO Subject: Re: Search all Files for any Lines containing specific set of Strings./9 Message-ID: <3F6C40D7.3634032D@encompasserve-or-this.org>e   James Faulk wrote: > 7 > New Programmer using OpenVMS Vrs. 6.2  Search CommandKE > Search all Text files in a Directory; Desired results should be all], > Files with one or more lines that contain:+ > -       All Strings specified in one line 2 > -       All Strings specified on separate lines. > Have tried SEARCH /MATCH withh$ > /AND, /EQV, /NOR, /NAND, /OR, /XORG > Example 1: SEARCH *.ada &#8220;string1&#8221;, &#8220;string2&#8221;,n > &#8220;string3&#8221; C > Results in: All Files with Lines that contain at least one stringe > specified.; > Example 2: SEARCH *.ada /MATCH=AND &#8220;string1&#8221;, . > &#8220;string2&#8221;, &#8220;string3&#8221;H > Results in: All Files with Lines that contain all Strings specified in > any one line.yF > Perhaps it is the way I am writing the Search request? Perhaps thereC > are Utilities already written for this? Any help would be greatly  > appreciated.  B A utility, wot I wrote, called GRAB applies the search criteria to@ sections (groups of records). As a kludge to treat the file as a* single section you can do somemthing like:  C  $ GRAB *.ada str1,str2,str3 /MATCH=AND/CUT=("",unmatchable_string)h  F Where "unmatchable_string" is something that won't appear in the file.  @ You can find GRAB with Alpha (V6.1+) binaries in Hunter Goatleys archives at:  !   http://www.process.com/openvms/7     Graham   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:25:46 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>+ Subject: Re: source for 431 pin CPU socket? - Message-ID: <87pthwxf05.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   = koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:S  B >    I have a bad CPU ZIF socket on my Alpha.  It's marked as "AMDC >    431", a 431 pin socket.  Nobody around here carries them and Is) >    can't find a source on the internet.   D >    Does anyone know of a source for these things (does not have toE >    be ZIF)?  Does it happen to match some variety of Pentium that IC >    could look for instead?  E >    Without a new socket I'm looking at the possibility of soldering8@ >    the chip right to the board.  Since there are surface mountD >    components on the board in the hole in the middle of the socket" >    I'm not sure that's possible.  C >    I know the CPU is good, it will run on another system.  I knowtA >    the socket is bad (I can see it).  I believe the rest of the E >    system is good, it was running VMS before the socket got munged.:  B If you do get one Bob, how are you going to remove the old one and4 re-solder the new one in? What sort of system is it?   -- P< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.e@                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 06:18:16 -0500L From: paul@wren.cc.kux.eduA Subject: Re: Statement from VMS/TCPIP engineers ? (BIND/Verisign) 8 Message-ID: <gkdomvci644oiptntur7fveoibrga4dli7@4ax.com>  + On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:02:34 -0400, JFmezeih" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:    H >I think that we can now see one definition of a healthy/alive operatingW >system: one which does get important functionality changes at the same time as others.i  C So, someone does something against industry standard practice, withtD agreement from nobody, and operating system vendors need to scramble to overcome it?y  F Even with industry agreement, Digital (then) has been burned. The UnixD vendors all agreed to produce their own versions of OSF/1. Digital'sE was the "reference implementation". How many other vendors made their= own version of OSF/1? Zero!u  D Digital even ported Posix over to VMS. Where's Posix now? Long gone.6 I don't blame HP engineers for "sitting this one out".   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:54:17 -0400p) From: JFmezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>DA Subject: Re: Statement from VMS/TCPIP engineers ? (BIND/Verisign)a) Message-ID: <3F6C7828.7DE76198@istop.com>a   paul@wren.cc.kux.edu wrote:BE > So, someone does something against industry standard practice, withlF > agreement from nobody, and operating system vendors need to scramble > to overcome it?h  N There's the rub. In the real world, they get BIND from the Bind consortium andL then just compile it for their platform. In the VMS world, we  must wait for) the TCPIP group to produce a new version.o  I Yes, I agree, it shouldn't be the lower ends of the DNS hiearchy that allLL patch their software to counter a configuration error at the very top of theJ tree. But if the top of the tree is not managed and nobody has the guts orC power to tell verislime to fix their problem or else, then the only M alternative is for the lower branches of the DNS hiearchy to shield the usersr from the verislime problem.h   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.522 ************************