1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 11 Apr 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 200       Contents:? Re: Alpha is phased out .... UltraSPARC V in the same way ..... @ Re: AMD OpteronT Processor Powers New Family of Sun Fire Servers@ Re: AMD OpteronT Processor Powers New Family of Sun Fire Servers ANNOUNCE: C-Kermit 8.0.211 Beta ! Backup command / Tape help needed  Re: contents of V7.3-2 distro  RE: DCL Coding Standards" Re: DHCPd - TCPware 5.6-1 question5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 1 Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 3 Re: How to call C function from Alpha assembly code  Re: info on hardware details Re: info on hardware details Re: info on hardware details Re: Kind of farewell& Re: MicroVAX 3800: erasing system disk) Re: MYSQL V4-1-1 and PHP 1.2 and CSWS 1.3  Re: Need help with modem on VAX  Re: OpenVMS for POWER!? 0 pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcnt4 Re: pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcnt4 Re: pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcnt4 Re: pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcnt Re: SIMH V3.2 released2 Re: THE Top 10 List of Worst Business IT Decisions2 Re: THE Top 10 List of Worst Business IT Decisions Re: TKZ60 and TA90 Re: TKZ60 and TA90& Re: VAX *and* VMS mentioned in article& Re: VAX *and* VMS mentioned in article" Re: VMS Security checking software Re: VMS?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 10 Apr 2004 05:46:47 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>H Subject: Re: Alpha is phased out .... UltraSPARC V in the same way .....? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-W8HWW2733Mys@dave2_os2.home.ours>   F On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 03:30:26 UTC, "GreyCloud" <mist@Cumulus.com> wrote:   > Paul Repacholi wrote: ? > > "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> writes:  > > G > >> I think that the minute Andrew decides to quit the conference, you G > >> will see a near instantanious dissapearance of any discussion (let H > >> alone bashing) of Sun in the conference...  because most of of justG > >> don't care.  Sun's battle is with other UNIXes, Linux, Windows and  > >> itself. > > E > > Sun's battle now is with the organ bank. No one else has survived F > > dealing with the borg of redmond, so it will be interesting to see > > how Sun fairs. > N > That last Sun web site front page ad showing McNeally and Ballmer was rather > funny.C > Ballmer had that look that a snake gives when staring down a rat.   F Wouldn't it be nice if he was wrong and he'd actually been staring at 
 a mongoose...    --   Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:35:08 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> I Subject: Re: AMD OpteronT Processor Powers New Family of Sun Fire Servers 8 Message-ID: <qntd70ps50vshqolhcvosgm0me7vo028ah@4ax.com>  J On 9 Apr 2004 07:53:54 -0600, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote:    >In article <c516h9$33j$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes:  >>  @ >> JDS is a desktop OS that is designed to run Java based client( >> applications hence its Java branding. > I >   Another bad name.  Unless we've been lied to when told the OS on the  ? >   box is Linux, which makes JDS some layer other than the OS.   L Don't the purists refer to GNU/Linux? Linux is the kernel while GNU providesK most of the commands & utilities that one actually thinks of in a UNIX type  system.    -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Apr 2004 15:54:33 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) I Subject: Re: AMD OpteronT Processor Powers New Family of Sun Fire Servers 3 Message-ID: <MFAE8R58dhxt@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <qntd70ps50vshqolhcvosgm0me7vo028ah@4ax.com>, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> writes: > N > Don't the purists refer to GNU/Linux? Linux is the kernel while GNU providesM > most of the commands & utilities that one actually thinks of in a UNIX type 	 > system.  >       True.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Apr 2004 14:29:08 GMT & From: Frank da Cruz <fdc@columbia.edu>( Subject: ANNOUNCE: C-Kermit 8.0.211 Beta7 Message-ID: <slrnc7dcpk.kdp.fdc@sesame.cc.columbia.edu>   A This is the first C-Kermit version for VMS 8.x on IA64 (Itanium):   -   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckdaily.html   , Of course it's also still for Alpha and VAX.  > On IA64, it compiles, starts OK, makes Telnet connections, and? transfers files.  I have no way to test it with serial (or LAT) ? connections; I'd appreciate it somebody could try dialing, etc.   A For those who have systems without C compilers, prebuilt binaries 	 are here:   F   ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/ckv211-i64-vms81-ucx55.exeF   ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/ckv211-i64-vms81-nonet.exe  D The first one is built with UCX T5.5, the second one without TCP/IP:' 6.0MB and 5.4MB, respectively (yikes!).    - Frank    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:50:33 GMT ( From: "NeedHelp" <eckmant@earthlink.net>* Subject: Backup command / Tape help needed4 Message-ID: <dDzdc.3565$F9.832@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>  G I have an Alpha 1000 running OpenVMS 6.2 and a tape library filled with 7 tapes written by several generations of Exabyte drives.   K I've confirmed with Exabyte that my current Mammoth LT drive should be able H to read my older 112-M tapes which I believe were writte with an Exabyte& 8500 under VMS 5.x or the current 6.2.  L I can mount the tape foreign, but when I try to backup /list it VMS tells me it is not an ANSI tape.   / Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:48:33 -0400, From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com>& Subject: Re: contents of V7.3-2 distro, Message-ID: <4076c652$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   Ok, L I'm going to push the 2 freeware v6 zip files out to ftp.hp.com they will be at ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms H if you anonymous ftp in remember to 'set passive on' (or whatever syntax% will do this for you if you don't use I tcpip services. The ftp.hp.com site needs that or you will get 'stuck' on  your second command...  K the files should be out there sometime today hopefully. I have to copy them # to a local system, then ftp them to J a staging system and then the mirror will shove them out. but at 600 MB it" takes time to get the files to the staging system.    -warren   , <VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:00A30165.11299401@SendSpamHere.ORG...F > In article <c55emo$17v$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de2 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:? > >In article <4075b9cd$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "warren sander" ! > ><warren.sander@hp.com> writes:  > > H > >> If you all really want I can delete the freeware5 on ftp.hp.com and replace   > >> it with the freeware6 filesD > >> but it's a lot of data to move if nobody want's to download it. > > I > >No, please don't.  The freeware disks aren't cumulative.  I think that 2 > >all the freeware versions should be on the web. >  > : > Which is what I was doing until these V6.0 Freeware CDs. >  > --  D > http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityE >                             solutions that others only claim to be.  > --  2 > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > 6 >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"   ------------------------------   Date: 10 Apr 2004 05:46:42 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>! Subject: RE: DCL Coding Standards ? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-XLRJdU4IYhFe@dave2_os2.home.ours>   0 On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:47:01 UTC, "Darren Boyle" & <Darren_Boyle@BlueYonder.co.UK> wrote:   >  >  > -----Original Message-----' > From: Dr. Dweeb [mailto:dr@dweeb.com] I > Also, the  "thou shalt not use GO TO" bigots would do well to read some I > literature on the subject of structured programming.  The GO TO is most N > commonly expressly allowed (it is in the PASCAL standard IIRC), specifically( > as a branch on the way to termination. >  > IF RETURN_STATUS IS SUCCESS  > THEN >    do something  > ELSE >   GO TO ERROR_EXIT > END-IF >  > G > A bit heavy on the processor though, it would have been simpler as...  > 5 > IF RETURN_STATUS .NOT. SUCCESS then GOTO ERROR_EXIT  > success lines  > success lines  > success lines  >   F Well I suspect the compiler would re-organise the first to achieve the@ second :-) but more realistically I'd expect to see more like :-   if (success) then     perform successful stuff    else"   perform specific error reportingC   goto error exit   |  goto error recovery | Goto error retry point  endif   A Whether you do IF SUCCESS or IF NOT SUCCESS is a matter of taste   and/or context.   B The trouble with trivial examples is that they get trivialised :-)   --   Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:54:01 -0400) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> + Subject: Re: DHCPd - TCPware 5.6-1 question ; Message-ID: <dOydc.11562$BF2.1176440@news20.bellglobal.com>   K "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message 0 news:4074A94E.1A435A93@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net... > Neil Rieck wrote:  > >  snip > >  > users in UAF. Any thoughts?  > = > Try the TCPware newsgroup or support (at) Process Software.  >  > -- > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    Thanks. N I placed a formal support request with PSC on Thursday (2004-04-09). I'll post their response here.  N But on a relegated note, has anyone ever heard of a similar limitation on UNIXN platforms? Last year we ran into a DHCPd problem with Solaris-8 on a SPARC-10.M A soon as we went over 1000 address we to receive "CPU Panic messages" at the N console. My boss doesn't care what OS we use just as long as we come up with a' solution. (Of course I prefer OpenVMS). 4 I guess I'll post this to news:comp.os.unix as well.  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.! http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:20:02 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> > Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min: Message-ID: <c59e7r$2pavia$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  % On 2004-04-10 19:58, "G Henry" wrote:   	 > Michael  > = > Thanks again but it is not picking up ithe actual number of  > interactive users.    + Do you have the GRPPRV or SYSPRV privilege?   C I'm not sure if "$ SHOW USER" and "$ pid = f$pid(pid_context)" work  exactly the same way.    > [...]    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 00:44:43 +0300 2 From: Mike Rechtman <rechtman-nospam-@tzora.co.il>> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min: Message-ID: <c59psi$2qkjin$1@ID-103225.news.uni-berlin.de>   Roert G. Schaffrath wrote:  > G Henry wrote: >  >>All  >>F >>I am tring to get the number of interactive users that are logged onG >>to our VMS 7.2-1 system every 15 min so I can put together some trend  >>data on our system.  >>F >>I cannot seem to find anywhere that I can get total users except the >>sho users command output.  >>F >>We have tried several things and the only thing we have been able to >>come up with is: >> >>----usercount.com ----- ( >>$ pipe show users | search sys$input -@ >>  users |(read sys$input uu ; write sys$output f$time(),"  ",-= >>  f$edit(f$element(1,"=",f$element(0,",",uu)),"COLLAPSE") )  >>G >>The problem with this is we cannot write the output of this to a file  >>eaisly >>H >>we have gotten it to write a file by submitting the fowlling .com fileA >>in sys$batch  with a comamand calling the command file with the  >>command above in it  >> >>------Ucount.com------ >>$ define sys$output data.dat >>$ top: >>$ wait 00:00:05  >>$ @scripts:usercount >>$ goto top >>< >>(I know the wait is every 5 secs but it is for testing...) >>C >>THere has to be a better way... Doing it this way the only way to H >>querry the data file data.dat is to stop the script from running or do! >>a backup with interlock switch.  >>; >>anyone have any ideas how we can strealine the process???  >> >>Thanks in advance  >> >>Gary >  > J > After seeing the various examples, I was wondering do you want the totalE > number of interactive users every 15 minutes or the total number of E > interactive processes?  If you want the total number of interactive C > processes, not unique users, that is easy enough to do with a DCL F > EXAMINE command.  Search through SYS$SYSTEM:SYS.MAP for the value of@ > SYS$GW_IJOBCNT.  On my V5.5-2 and V7.3 system it is located at5 > %X800044C0.  Then you simply examine that location:  > 
 > Example: >  > $ show user/fu9 >       VAX/VMS User Processes at 10-APR-2004 16:31:09.04 9 >     Total number of users = 3,  number of processes = 4  > 0 >  Username   Process Name      PID     Terminal+ >  GUEST    GUEST;1         000000A8  NTY3: + >  RGS      R.G.Schaffrath  000000A4  NTY1: + >  RGS      RGS;1           000000A7  NTY2: 9 >  SYSTEM   System Manager  000000A6  RTA1:    (EIS::RGS)  > $ examine %X800044C0 > 800044C0:  00000004  > @ > Of course getting the result of the examine into a variable isH > annoying.  However, I have found using that using f$fao in conjunctionJ > with f$cvui and nice way to get information at specific memory addresses	 > in DCL:  > 4 > $ ijobcnt = f$cvui(0,32,f$fao("!AD",4,%X800044C0)) > $ write sys$output ijobcnt > 4  > $  >  > Hope this helps... > Robert   Note re VAX vs. Alpha:! VAX OpenVMS should work as above. + On Alpha use SYS$GL_IJOBCNT (Long not Word)    Mike   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:09:03 GMT & From: G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.com>: Subject: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min8 Message-ID: <o9he70tlbg5qlpf3jcbqvuv2sk6cmak9rc@4ax.com>   All   D I am tring to get the number of interactive users that are logged onE to our VMS 7.2-1 system every 15 min so I can put together some trend  data on our system.   D I cannot seem to find anywhere that I can get total users except the sho users command output.     D We have tried several things and the only thing we have been able to come up with is:   ----usercount.com ----- & $ pipe show users | search sys$input ->   users |(read sys$input uu ; write sys$output f$time(),"  ",-;   f$edit(f$element(1,"=",f$element(0,",",uu)),"COLLAPSE") )   E The problem with this is we cannot write the output of this to a file  eaisly  F we have gotten it to write a file by submitting the fowlling .com file? in sys$batch  with a comamand calling the command file with the  command above in it    ------Ucount.com------ $ define sys$output data.dat $ top: $ wait 00:00:05  $ @scripts:usercount
 $ goto top  : (I know the wait is every 5 secs but it is for testing...)  A THere has to be a better way... Doing it this way the only way to F querry the data file data.dat is to stop the script from running or do a backup with interlock switch.   9 anyone have any ideas how we can strealine the process???    Thanks in advance    Gary   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 03:53:16 GMT > From: Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com>> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min= Message-ID: <McKdc.14459$fW2.3744@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>    G Henry wrote:   > All  > F > I am tring to get the number of interactive users that are logged onG > to our VMS 7.2-1 system every 15 min so I can put together some trend  > data on our system.  > F > I cannot seem to find anywhere that I can get total users except the > sho users command output.    > F > We have tried several things and the only thing we have been able to > come up with is: >  > ----usercount.com ----- ( > $ pipe show users | search sys$input -@ >   users |(read sys$input uu ; write sys$output f$time(),"  ",-= >   f$edit(f$element(1,"=",f$element(0,",",uu)),"COLLAPSE") )  > G > The problem with this is we cannot write the output of this to a file  > eaisly > H > we have gotten it to write a file by submitting the fowlling .com fileA > in sys$batch  with a comamand calling the command file with the  > command above in it  >  > ------Ucount.com------ > $ define sys$output data.dat > $ top: > $ wait 00:00:05  > $ @scripts:usercount > $ goto top > < > (I know the wait is every 5 secs but it is for testing...) > C > THere has to be a better way... Doing it this way the only way to H > querry the data file data.dat is to stop the script from running or do! > a backup with interlock switch.  > ; > anyone have any ideas how we can strealine the process???  >  > Thanks in advance  >  > Gary >   	 Try this:   
 $!! AA.COM& $ pipe show users | search sys$input -=    users |(read sys$input uu ; open/append ofile data.dat ; -     write ofile f$time(),"  ", - J    f$edit(f$element(1,"=",f$element(0,",",uu)),"COLLAPSE") ; close ofile )     $ !! BB.COM  $ top: $ wait 00:00:05 	 $ @aa.com 
 $ goto top    5 $ create data.dat  !! file must exist for open/append  ^Z  / $ spawn/nowait @bb.com  !!or submit to batch... + %DCL-S-SPAWNED, process MAUSTIN_136 spawned  $ type data.dat    9-APR-2004 21:45:16.65  2    9-APR-2004 21:45:22.09  2    9-APR-2004 21:46:06.41  2  $ type data.dat    9-APR-2004 21:45:16.65  2    9-APR-2004 21:45:22.09  2    9-APR-2004 21:46:06.41  2    9-APR-2004 21:46:11.75  2  $ type data.dat    9-APR-2004 21:45:16.65  2    9-APR-2004 21:45:22.09  2    9-APR-2004 21:46:06.41  2    9-APR-2004 21:46:11.75  2    9-APR-2004 21:46:17.09  2   H (to delete the process... either log out or sh proc/sub and stop/id the  subprocess)    OR:    $startloop:  $cnt = 0 $pid_context = ""  $loop: $ pid = f$pid(pid_context)# $ if pid .EQS. "" then goto endloop > $ if f$getjpi(pid,"mode") .eqs. "INTERACTIVE" then cnt = cnt+1
 $goto loop	 $endloop: = $ write sys$output "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'"  $ open/append ofile data.dat8 $ write ofile "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'"
 $ close ofile  $wait 00:00:05 $goto startloop    $ @cnt_interactive/ Number of users at  9-APR-2004 21:35:03.82 is 2 / Number of users at  9-APR-2004 21:35:08.86 is 2 / Number of users at  9-APR-2004 21:35:13.90 is 2 / Number of users at  9-APR-2004 21:35:18.94 is 2    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 04:23:50 GMT * From: G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.spamcom>> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min8 Message-ID: <4mte70d3qchg4ruutd9mc45itmi6utdlb2@4ax.com>   Michael:   THis is GREAT thanks...   @ Question, which version do you think uses less system resources?   Gary  0 On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 03:53:16 GMT, Michael Austin0 <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote:   >G Henry wrote:  >  >> All >>  G >> I am tring to get the number of interactive users that are logged on H >> to our VMS 7.2-1 system every 15 min so I can put together some trend >> data on our system. >>  G >> I cannot seem to find anywhere that I can get total users except the  >> sho users command output.   >>  G >> We have tried several things and the only thing we have been able to  >> come up with is:  >>   >> ----usercount.com -----) >> $ pipe show users | search sys$input - A >>   users |(read sys$input uu ; write sys$output f$time(),"  ",- > >>   f$edit(f$element(1,"=",f$element(0,",",uu)),"COLLAPSE") ) >>  H >> The problem with this is we cannot write the output of this to a file	 >> eaisly  >>  I >> we have gotten it to write a file by submitting the fowlling .com file B >> in sys$batch  with a comamand calling the command file with the >> command above in it >>   >> ------Ucount.com------  >> $ define sys$output data.dat 	 >> $ top:  >> $ wait 00:00:05 >> $ @scripts:usercount 
 >> $ goto top  >>  = >> (I know the wait is every 5 secs but it is for testing...)  >>  D >> THere has to be a better way... Doing it this way the only way toI >> querry the data file data.dat is to stop the script from running or do " >> a backup with interlock switch. >>  < >> anyone have any ideas how we can strealine the process??? >>   >> Thanks in advance >>   >> Gary  >>   > 
 >Try this: >  >$!! AA.COM ' >$ pipe show users | search sys$input - > >   users |(read sys$input uu ; open/append ofile data.dat ; -  >   write ofile f$time(),"  ", -K >   f$edit(f$element(1,"=",f$element(0,",",uu)),"COLLAPSE") ; close ofile )  >  >  >$ !! BB.COM >$ top:  >$ wait 00:00:05
 >$ @aa.com >$ goto top  >  > 6 >$ create data.dat  !! file must exist for open/append >^Z  > 0 >$ spawn/nowait @bb.com  !!or submit to batch..., >%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process MAUSTIN_136 spawned >$ type data.dat >  9-APR-2004 21:45:16.65  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:45:22.09  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:46:06.41  2 >$ type data.dat >  9-APR-2004 21:45:16.65  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:45:22.09  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:46:06.41  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:46:11.75  2 >$ type data.dat >  9-APR-2004 21:45:16.65  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:45:22.09  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:46:06.41  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:46:11.75  2 >  9-APR-2004 21:46:17.09  2 > I >(to delete the process... either log out or sh proc/sub and stop/id the   >subprocess) >  >OR: >  >$startloop:	 >$cnt = 0  >$pid_context = "" >$loop:  >$ pid = f$pid(pid_context) $ >$ if pid .EQS. "" then goto endloop? >$ if f$getjpi(pid,"mode") .eqs. "INTERACTIVE" then cnt = cnt+1  >$goto loop 
 >$endloop:> >$ write sys$output "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'" >$ open/append ofile data.dat 9 >$ write ofile "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'"  >$ close ofile >$wait 00:00:05  >$goto startloop >  >$ @cnt_interactive 0 >Number of users at  9-APR-2004 21:35:03.82 is 20 >Number of users at  9-APR-2004 21:35:08.86 is 20 >Number of users at  9-APR-2004 21:35:13.90 is 20 >Number of users at  9-APR-2004 21:35:18.94 is 2   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:31:50 -0400 - From: "heuveltjes" <heuveltjes@email.msn.com> > Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min, Message-ID: <40777928$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  K "Michael Austin" <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote in message 7 news:McKdc.14459$fW2.3744@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...  > G Henry wrote: >  > > All  > > H > > I am tring to get the number of interactive users that are logged onI > > to our VMS 7.2-1 system every 15 min so I can put together some trend  > > data on our system.  : I > > The problem with this is we cannot write the output of this to a file  eaisly   'One liner':F $ perl -e "open (X,"">>x.x""); foreach $_ (`show users`){$at=$1 if(/at: (.*)$/); if (/users = (\d+)/){print X ""$at $1\n"";last}}"  F That 'catches' the date and time just so, and the user count bare in a symbol. H It is a little more readable in a file (this time catching a little more text). $perl show_users.pl  $type show_users.pl ' open (X,">>x.x") or die "Append error";  foreach $_ (`show users`) {    $at=$1 if(/( at .*)$/);    if (/( users = \d+)/) {      print X "$at $1\n"; 	     last;      }    }    fwiw,  Hein.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:37:36 -0400 - From: "heuveltjes" <heuveltjes@email.msn.com> > Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min, Message-ID: <40777a82$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  8 "heuveltjes" <heuveltjes@email.msn.com> wrote in message& news:40777928$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com... >  > 'One liner':H > $ perl -e "open (X,"">>x.x""); foreach $_ (`show users`){$at=$1 if(/at< > (.*)$/); if (/users = (\d+)/){print X ""$at $1\n"";last}}"  I I forgot to present the command line output redirecting build in for perl 
 like > and >> , Using that you can drop the open  X, print X  H $ perl -e "foreach $_ (`show users`){$at=$1 if(/at (.*)$/); if (/users =) (\d+)/){print ""$at $1\n"";last}}" >> x.x    Hein.    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Apr 2004 20:52:39 -0700. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0404101952.5457e33c@posting.google.com>   u Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message news:<c59e7r$2pavia$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>... ' > On 2004-04-10 19:58, "G Henry" wrote:  >  > > Michael  > > ? > > Thanks again but it is not picking up ithe actual number of  > > interactive users.   > - > Do you have the GRPPRV or SYSPRV privilege?  > E > I'm not sure if "$ SHOW USER" and "$ pid = f$pid(pid_context)" work  > exactly the same way.  > 	 > > [...]  > 	 > Michael   B You need WORLD privilege to use f$pid for processes you don't own.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:42:15 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG< Subject: Re: How to call C function from Alpha assembly code0 Message-ID: <00A301FB.9CE23675@SendSpamHere.ORG>  z In article <595d0879.0404091346.2a077a73@posting.google.com>, kannan.s.viswanathan@oracle.com (Kannan Viswanathan) writes: >Hi,   > F >We have a requirement to write an  Alpha assembly code for VMS , withB >in which it has make a call to to an external "C" funtion. I willE >greatly appreciate , if you can provide some pointers (or examples )  >about how to do this. > C >Here is the code segment on Tru-64 which we are trying to port for  >VMS.  >  > 	 >         6 >        ldq     $27, seoastk_bottom_in($gp)!literal!2; >        jsr     $26, ($27), seoastk_bottom_in!lituse_jsr!2  > 	 >Thanks .   I If the Macro64 assembler is install on this OpenVMS Alpha, take a look at  SYS$EXAMPLES:MACRO64$HELLO.M64.   H This example invokes a DECC run-time (printf) to output text.  It uses aG set of macros to simplify invoking the routines.  Probably your easiest  way to invoke your routines.   --  B http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.  --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------   Date: 9 Apr 2004 08:13:41 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) % Subject: Re: info on hardware details 3 Message-ID: <P1OD7rGmDVET@eisner.encompasserve.org>   b In article <7e127df6.0404081559.3e7f3665@posting.google.com>, thick_guy_9@yahoo.com (AMIT) writes: >  > and how can I find the   > System Serial No?   ?    It's written on the outside of the box, usually in the back.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:44:52 GMT / From: "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com> % Subject: Re: info on hardware details 6 Message-ID: <Uxzdc.13692$M3.6530@twister.nyroc.rr.com>  / "AMIT" <thick_guy_9@yahoo.com> wrote in message 7 news:7e127df6.0404081559.3e7f3665@posting.google.com... L > helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)1 wrote in message news:<c543ho$6ff$1@online.de>... A > > In article <7e127df6.0404080728.7c48f92b@posting.google.com>, ( > > thick_guy_9@yahoo.com (AMIT) writes: > >  > > > c. Cluster ID    Possibly you want:  . $ MCR SYSMAN CONFIG SHOW CLUSTER_AUTHORIZATION   > and how can I find the > System Serial No?   * $ SHOW CPU/FULL  !at least on some systems   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:00:43 -0400 ' From: Stuart Fuller <stufuller@usa.net> % Subject: Re: info on hardware details 0 Message-ID: <rrk65c.aap.ln@dadsys2.fuller.local>   Bob Koehler wrote:  ? > In article <7e127df6.0404081559.3e7f3665@posting.google.com>, & > thick_guy_9@yahoo.com (AMIT) writes: >>   >> and how can I find the  >> System Serial No? > A >    It's written on the outside of the box, usually in the back.   J Ain't that a pain sometimes?  I'd prefer that it be on a indiscrete label 
 on the front.    --             Stu    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:10:15 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <KFarmer@NOSPAM.SpyderByte.com> Subject: Re: Kind of farewell = Message-ID: <Xgxdc.11377$So3.328210@twister.southeast.rr.com>   / "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> wrote in message ( news:c54c8i$2lq2$1@biggoron.nerim.net...K > Well, after 22 years of VMS, I merged today my "company" with the Nr 1 IT G > provider here in Toulouse, where I accepted the position of Technical 
 Department > mgr. > I > The company is in Apple business since the 80's and went to LostDows 15  years E > later, when the margin on Macintosh products schrinked to 3 points.  > J > Today, they^H^H^H^H we sell Apple, Fujitsu, Sage Accounting software andI > networking. The "merge" will bring to the new DTL the HP reseller card,  VMS E > consulting (if any) and the FutureVAX/CHARON-VAX serie of products.  > F > As I move from technique to management, I will probably stop reading newsgroups, I > so do not worry about missing posts, this will mean that I will be busy  dealing J > with costs control, budget, quality control, procedures, human resources and $ > other strategical accounts rescue. >  > Good luck to VMS. ? > If HP France wants to sell VMS to Airbus, please let me know.  > 0 > Best regards to all of you and a HAPPY EASTER. >  > D. >    Good luck Didier!  :)   - You know how to find me if you need anything.    Ken      -- Kenneth Farmer <>< OpenVMS.org    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:12:30 -0400 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> / Subject: Re: MicroVAX 3800: erasing system disk 1 Message-ID: <462dneCpytDCIOvdRVn-hQ@adelphia.com>    Bob Koehler wrote:X > In article <4074C4FE.BF84DA0A@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes: > L >>But to issue the SET HOST command, don't you need VMS to be up and runningK >>with the correct driver loaded to access the DSSI controller ? Won't that L >>crash VMS if you tell the drive used as system drive to erase itself ? (orO >>would VMS go into mount verification if it discobers that its system drive is  >>now offline ?) >  > E >    I don't recall which model the original poster was using, but on F >    most VAXen after MV II you can set host/dup/dssi from the console >    prompt with no OS.   H A different ritual is needed for the systems that use KFQSAs instead of  embedded DSSI.  H As I remember it, a switch setting needed to be changed on the KFQSA to  put it in maintenance mode.   F The syntax for getting to the maintenance program was a bit different.   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:33:48 GMT ) From: "Rick Barry" <richard.barry@hp.com> 2 Subject: Re: MYSQL V4-1-1 and PHP 1.2 and CSWS 1.32 Message-ID: <0Dxdc.2711$BJ4.1497@news.cpqcorp.net>  L There's no timetable. Our first priority is to get Itanium versions of CSWS,L CSWS_PERL/PERL, CSWS_PHP, and CSWS_JAVA out the door this summer. Then we'll look at what's in the pipeline.   K The problem with supporting RMS record fromats other than STREAM_LF is that H STREAM_LF is the record format that works (out-of-the-box) for many open source projects.L We're not talking just about Apache. It's PHP, Perl, and Java, too. A lot ofI operations only work with STREAM-LF. That said, the topic is on the table  for review later this year.   
 Rick Barry OpenVMS System Software Group  Hewlett Packard Company 
 Nashua, NH  K "Michael Austin" <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote in message 8 news:qpndc.14059$%63.13308@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com... > Michael Austin wrote:  > J > > Does someone have documentation on how to properly configure MYSQL and@ > > PHP on OpenVMS 7.3-1.  My test script fails on the line withL > > mysql_connect().  Mysql is running and works using the parameters in theK > > connect statement at the command line and I can connect and look at the L > > db.  I have not been able to locate the doc that explains how all of theH > > configuration files must be configured for proper operations for theG > > 4.1.1 version -- it is quite different from the previous version...a > >uK > > Until the STREAM_LF issue is resolved in CSWS 2.0, I cannot install it.  > >a > > Any help is appreciated. > >p > > Michael Austin > >e >aH > found it.... edit SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.APACHE.PHP]PHP.INI andB > remove the comment in front of php_mysql.exe  and there ya go... >a" > just took for ever to find it at >iL <<http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws_php_relnotes.ht ml>> >s7 > BTW, When will CSWS remove the STREAM_LF restriction?o >d > Michael Austin...  >d   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 18:46:41 -0400s3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> ( Subject: Re: Need help with modem on VAX0 Message-ID: <ebCdnSUKxsgyuurdRVn-tw@comcast.com>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------0701090500050506050307089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=floweda Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bita  ; Try this link for How to Use a Modem With Your VMS System. s/ <http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckvins.html#x6>.  B For those reading plain text cut and paste this into your browser:- http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckvins.html#x6   A I wrote it, many years ago, and Frank used it with my permission.l  H If you still can't figure it out, you could ask me.  I might be able to  diagnose your problem.         Dominic Olivastro wrote:   >Hello:n > - >It's been many years since I've posted here.n > K >We have a VAX 750 running VMS 6.x.  We have an external modem connected tooJ >the VAX via a terminal server.  Using Kermit, I find that the modem neverK >responds to the AT commands, and therefore never dials out.  If I call in,- >the Modem never answers.e >0E >Looking around and using SHOW TERM, I decided that I need to set theoK >terminal as a modem.  We used to (in the bad days before terminal servers) K >just issue the command SET TERM xxx /modem, but now I can't.  I understand L >that I need to go through the server for this, but I've looked at LATCP and  >NCP, and nothing seems to help. >- >Any ideas?r >z >Dom >m >  t >   & --------------070109050005050605030708) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bits  ? <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">h <html> <head>I   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1">e   <title></title>n </head>i' <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">h Try this link for <aB  href="http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckvins.html#x6">How to Use a# Modem With Your VMS System.</a><br>  <br>F For those reading plain text cut and paste this into your browser:<br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckvins.html#x6">http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckvins.html#x6</a><br>a <br>E I wrote it, many years ago, and Frank used it with my permission.<br>- <br>L If you still can't figure it out, you could ask me.&nbsp; I might be able to diagnose your problem.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Dominic Olivastro wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite"7C  cite="midec161$40731f77$44a5e110$31464@msgid.meganewsservers.com">0   <pre wrap="">Hello:.  , It's been many years since I've posted here.  J We have a VAX 750 running VMS 6.x.  We have an external modem connected toI the VAX via a terminal server.  Using Kermit, I find that the modem neveroJ responds to the AT commands, and therefore never dials out.  If I call in, the Modem never answers.  D Looking around and using SHOW TERM, I decided that I need to set theJ terminal as a modem.  We used to (in the bad days before terminal servers)J just issue the command SET TERM xxx /modem, but now I can't.  I understandK that I need to go through the server for this, but I've looked at LATCP and  NCP, and nothing seems to help.   
 Any ideas?   Dom      </pre>
 </blockquote>- </body>e </html>0  ( --------------070109050005050605030708--   ------------------------------   Date: 10 Apr 2004 05:46:49 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>  Subject: Re: OpenVMS for POWER!?? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-v8sbcRj2fIQI@dave2_os2.home.ours>x  D On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 20:04:37 UTC, Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote:  * > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: > ../..  > > / > > So basically you cannot support your point.i > > % > > Since you cannot my point stands.T > > : > > Or did you think that your word on the subject carriesA > > much weight given your previous less than convincing attemptsC > > at financial analysis. > D > Hey you both, what about an Easter pause ????????????????????????? >  > D. >   $ Didier, the English expression is :-  3 How about giving it up for Easter | Lent | Xmas etc   9 I agree with you. I might actually go for the 'duration'.t   -- , Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:10:23 GMTr* From: tutor <tutor_removespam_@cfl.rr.com>9 Subject: pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcntw8 Message-ID: <g5td70hk3d8fsvgqjr34igds4vvhssq8dc@4ax.com>  0 pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcnt  + has anyone ever come across these programs?m" most likely written in .c or .mar 9 for a vax system.   (hopefully, there is an Alpha equiv.)w   email me immediately tutor AT cfl DOT rr DOT com)  
 thank you, Jerrold-   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Apr 2004 15:55:32 -0600m; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) = Subject: Re: pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcntl3 Message-ID: <lvm59MVtCr0I@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  e In article <g5td70hk3d8fsvgqjr34igds4vvhssq8dc@4ax.com>, tutor <tutor_removespam_@cfl.rr.com> writes:d2 > pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcnt > - > has anyone ever come across these programs?l$ > most likely written in .c or .mar ; > for a vax system.   (hopefully, there is an Alpha equiv.)r  F    Programs?  No.  Symbols and terminalogy common in VMS systems, yes.+    And quite common to VAX, Alpha, and I64..   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 03:31:55 GMT4* From: tutor <tutor_removespam_@cfl.rr.com>= Subject: Re: pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcntD8 Message-ID: <ndqe70t169vl3pfmj0nndsa9fa5b6arpde@4ax.com>   Ok, symbols.4 Makes sense, because when I LINK the main c program, the error reads:    %link-I-udfsym,     keyid,i'    %line-I-udfsym,     helplineid,.....e   Sorry about the terminology,  C My guess is that these symbols are supposed to be global - and thus  picked up in the link. r But where are they located?e1 I've tried looking in all the disks from top downa&  $ search [...]*.c,*.mar,*.txt  keyid   9 I also tried searching the sys$library .olb's and .tlb's.v   Where oh where can keyid be?   J.  $ On 9 Apr 2004 15:55:32 -0600, wrote:  f >In article <g5td70hk3d8fsvgqjr34igds4vvhssq8dc@4ax.com>, tutor <tutor_removespam_@cfl.rr.com> writes:3 >> pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcntr >> t. >> has anyone ever come across these programs?% >> most likely written in .c or .mar b< >> for a vax system.   (hopefully, there is an Alpha equiv.) >pG >   Programs?  No.  Symbols and terminalogy common in VMS systems, yes.r, >   And quite common to VAX, Alpha, and I64.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:01:56 -0400 - From: "heuveltjes" <heuveltjes@email.msn.com>r= Subject: Re: pasteboardid,helplineid,keyid,titleid,virtualcntw* Message-ID: <40777227@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  7 "tutor" <tutor_removespam_@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message 2 news:ndqe70t169vl3pfmj0nndsa9fa5b6arpde@4ax.com... > Ok, symbols.6 > Makes sense, because when I LINK the main c program, > the error reads: >    %link-I-udfsym,     keyid,e) >    %line-I-udfsym,     helplineid,.....aJ > Like I tried to indicate in my reply, those names normally woudl reflectK user chosen variable and will NOT be defined by any system provided module.D1 You are missing some application code. (.h file?):  : Here is an answer I just posted in teh ITRC OpenVMS Forum:K http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=545811y    9 Check out chapter 1.1 and 1.2 in the SMG library manual (O= http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/5935/5935pro_001.html ) 2 and you well soon enough recognize their function.   SWAG... create a MACRO module:   .psect mysmgdata,wrt,noexe pasteboardid:: .long helplineid:: .long
 keyid:: .longa titleid:: .longt virtualcnt:: .long .end  # macro that, and link with the rest.tI That should stop the linker from complaining and will likely get you pastn3 the first few SMG calls, maybe putting up a screen. J RUn with /DEBUG and SET BREAK/EXCEP to see to what poitn the charade holds up.R   Good luck (you need some!) Hein.E   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:26:03 -0400l4 From: "Roert G. Schaffrath" <rschaffrath@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: SIMH V3.2 released $ Message-ID: <4076EABB.E3B@yahoo.com>   Roert G. Schaffrath wrote:  >  > Bob Supnik wrote:  > >l/ > > SIMH V3.2 was released today, on the web atr" > > http://simh.trailing-edge.com. > >r# > > Among the features of interest:o > >II > > 1. VAX - extended memory support.  Simulated memory can be configured , > > up to 512MB for VMS, Ultrix, and NetBSD. > >  - RXV21 support.  > H > This sounds great except now I'll have to reboot my 3.1 emulator whichH > has been running continously for 14+ days.  Nah, I'll upgrade when the  > Windows host finally gives up!  F Today was the day it gave up; 17 days uptime.  Not because of WindowsF 2000 but because WinPCAP stopped processing packets.  VMS continued toC run fine but I was unable to communicate with the outside world.  I G shutdown the simulator, upgraded to SIMH V3.2 and restarted it (no needuD to reboot W2K).  The new RXV21 support is working; devices DYA0: and" DYA1: are now available as RX02's.   Robert   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:39:41 -0400/* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>; Subject: Re: THE Top 10 List of Worst Business IT Decisions ) Message-ID: <4076EDEC.19887277@istop.com>h   Paul Sture wrote:oF > Thanks for the link. I also found the IBM bit interesting - I hadn'tB > realised that BG II was an influential advisor to the IBM board.  1 How do you think Bill Gates jr got his contract ?o   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 19:11:34 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>; Subject: Re: THE Top 10 List of Worst Business IT Decisionsl4 Message-ID: <1040409190415.362D-100000@Ives.egh.com>    On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, tutor wrote:   > Stan, 0 >    Thank you for pointing out a great article.D >   (My response continues after shamelessly quoting your message: ) >  > > 1 > >THE Top 10 List of Worst Business IT Decisionsn- > >LinuxInsider.com - Encino,CA,United States5G > >.. What this really meant was that they just didn't understand theiriG > >own markets: Commercial VAX users simply didn't behave the way IBM's  > >mainframe community does ...u6 > ><http://www.linuxinsider.com/perl/story/33362.html> >  >  > Response continues:p >     While DEC messed up,> >     Here is a web page that puts it all in BOOLEAN LOGIC.... >  > ? > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/dec_memorial_site.htmlC > (first 'green' text on page) > H > Some people will perceive this web page as nothing more than a Digital< > Equipment Corporation technology cheering section. This isA > not my intention. By proving that DEC had (and still has) great9H > products, I hope to impress the following thought on technical people:D > "it doesn't matter how technically great your products are; if you > have= > either poor marketing or poor management, your company will5+ > be doomed to either failure or takeover."a > 1 > Putting the above paragraph into Boolean terms:t > C >    Good Engineering AND Good Marketing AND Good Management Yields> > Corporate Success  > % > Applying DeMorgan's Theorem yields:  > H >    Bad Engineering OR Bad Marketing OR Bad Management Yields Corporate	 > Failurei  B Only if "Yields" (8 lines up, not 3 lines up!) means "equals", butE I would take it as "implies".  In other words, it is possible to have A corporate success despite bad engineering or bad marketing or badfC management.  As an existence proof, I cite a large firm in Redmond, B which only has two of the three terms in the 3-part AND statement.  @ However, certainly great engineering combined with bad marketing( and bad management makes it real hard...  @ Does anyone know of any successful companies with bad 2 of the 3
 or bad all 3?h     > H > Even if the Boolean equations are fuzzified, the second equation seems > more relevant than the first.w   --   John Santosd Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:06:53 GMTo/ From: "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com>i Subject: Re: TKZ60 and TA90 7 Message-ID: <16ydc.13369$M3.12369@twister.nyroc.rr.com>   D "Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)" <yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il> wrote in message news:2004Apr9.094308@hujicc...D > In article <40755DFF.28737.8958767@localhost>, "Stanley F. Quayle"  <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes:< > > On 8 Apr 2004 at 11:59, gleason@encompasserve.org wrote:J > >>  I have an ancient TA90e tape drive I need to retire. I still need toI > >> retain the ability to occasionally read one of the many thousands ofiK > >> tapes written by it, in VMS BACKUP format, with the compressed option.  > >>H > >>   The TKZ60 family looks like it could do the job. Anyone ever usedI > >> one to read TA90E tapes? Anyone want to recommend a specific variantSK > >> in the product family? What's the difference between the TKZ60, 61 and  > >> 62? >;H > I have a TKZ-61 exactly for this purpose. I don't know the differences betweenRJ > the models, but I think you need the 61 in order to read the cassetes of the I > TA91e (if I recall correctly the TKZ60 will read only TA90, not TA90e).d  I We had to purchase an IDRC upgrade kit for our TKZ60 drive to allow it tooI read compressed/compacted data.  According to the 1995 DECdirect catalog,0$ that includes TA90, TA90E, and TA91.  : The description in the catalog for the upgrade kit states:  L "IDRC Upgrade kit - enables TKZ60 models (TKZ60-AA/BA/AC/BC) built after May( 1993 to read/write IDRC compressed data"  ( Here are some of the TKZ60 part numbers:   TKZ60-AA - Rackmount TKZ60-AC - Rackmount w/loadero TKZ60-BA - Tabletopj TKZ60-BC - Tabletop w/loader' TKZ60-EA - Rackmount, single-ended SCSIh0 TKZ60-EC - Rackmount w/loader, single-ended SCSI& TKZ60-FA - Tabletop, single-ended SCSI/ TKZ60-FC - Tabletop w/loader, single-ended SCSIs' TKZ60-GA - Rackmount, differential SCSIs0 TKZ60-GC - Rackmount w/loader, differential SCSI& TKZ60-HA - Tabletop, differential SCSI/ TKZ60-HC - Tabletop w/loader, differential SCSIe TKZ60U-AB - IDRC upgrade kit  L I have a TKZ60-BA with a TKZ60U-AB, thus being the equivilant to a TKZ60-FA.
 I think :)   -Jeff    >rL > The reliability of the TKZ drives is quite low, so have a support contract or" > pay a lot when it breaks down...6 >                                            __Yehavi:   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:51:37 +0300i2 From: Mike Rechtman <rechtman-nospam-@tzora.co.il> Subject: Re: TKZ60 and TA90l: Message-ID: <c59mq0$2q7ebg$1@ID-103225.news.uni-berlin.de>   Jeff Goodwin wrote:eF > "Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)" <yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il> wrote in message  > news:2004Apr9.094308@hujicc... > D >>In article <40755DFF.28737.8958767@localhost>, "Stanley F. Quayle" > " > <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes: > ; >>>On 8 Apr 2004 at 11:59, gleason@encompasserve.org wrote:  >>> I >>>> I have an ancient TA90e tape drive I need to retire. I still need toeH >>>>retain the ability to occasionally read one of the many thousands ofJ >>>>tapes written by it, in VMS BACKUP format, with the compressed option. >>>>G >>>>  The TKZ60 family looks like it could do the job. Anyone ever usedgH >>>>one to read TA90E tapes? Anyone want to recommend a specific variantJ >>>>in the product family? What's the difference between the TKZ60, 61 and >>>>62?v >>H >>I have a TKZ-61 exactly for this purpose. I don't know the differences > 	 > between  > J >>the models, but I think you need the 61 in order to read the cassetes of >  > thes > I >>TA91e (if I recall correctly the TKZ60 will read only TA90, not TA90e).n >  > K > We had to purchase an IDRC upgrade kit for our TKZ60 drive to allow it tooK > read compressed/compacted data.  According to the 1995 DECdirect catalog,t& > that includes TA90, TA90E, and TA91. > < > The description in the catalog for the upgrade kit states: > N > "IDRC Upgrade kit - enables TKZ60 models (TKZ60-AA/BA/AC/BC) built after May* > 1993 to read/write IDRC compressed data" > * > Here are some of the TKZ60 part numbers: >  > TKZ60-AA - Rackmount > TKZ60-AC - Rackmount w/loaderm > TKZ60-BA - Tabletop  > TKZ60-BC - Tabletop w/loader) > TKZ60-EA - Rackmount, single-ended SCSI02 > TKZ60-EC - Rackmount w/loader, single-ended SCSI( > TKZ60-FA - Tabletop, single-ended SCSI1 > TKZ60-FC - Tabletop w/loader, single-ended SCSIw) > TKZ60-GA - Rackmount, differential SCSI 2 > TKZ60-GC - Rackmount w/loader, differential SCSI( > TKZ60-HA - Tabletop, differential SCSI1 > TKZ60-HC - Tabletop w/loader, differential SCSIn > TKZ60U-AB - IDRC upgrade kit > N > I have a TKZ60-BA with a TKZ60U-AB, thus being the equivilant to a TKZ60-FA. > I think :) >  > -Jeffe >  > L >>The reliability of the TKZ drives is quite low, so have a support contract >  > or > " >>pay a lot when it breaks down...6 >>                                           __Yehavi: >  >  > C I would go with a previous reply: Make copies to write-once media, xD probably CDs. Remember that the useful life of magnetic media (esp. A tape) is finite, and coupled with the increasing risk of ancient aC tape-drive failure and difficulty of replacement makes the risk of PG staying on TA90's higher with every year. (Remember too that CD's also  H have a finite useful life - you might start to see failures after about  a decade...)   Mike   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:58:13 -0600P% From: e-mail@end_of.msg (Mike Cesari):/ Subject: Re: VAX *and* VMS mentioned in article . Message-ID: <e-mail-0904041058130001@10.0.1.2>  ` In article <750aaIUM5nhi@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.aspm.encompasserve.org wrote:  X > In article <e-mail-0804042021200001@10.0.1.2>, e-mail@end_of.msg (Mike Cesari) writes: > > " > > I use the LAT server on MacOSX > G >    How do I find and configure that?  I'd love to have LAT on my OS X' >    boxes.p  G The LAT source is on the linux-decnet download page. Happily, it builds"8 out of the box. (The developer has tested it on Darwin.)  @ To start the service I use: sudo /usr/local/sbin/latcp -s -i en0# /etc/latd.conf can be used as well..   Mike -- b mcesarir (at) comcast(dot)net1   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:09:54 -0700-+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>0/ Subject: Re: VAX *and* VMS mentioned in articlep' Message-ID: <40787EC2.8010504@MMaz.com>f   Bob Koehler wrote:  z >In article <4075F9EA.B702E05A@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> writes: >    >yE >>I read that on Google earlier today and wondered: If you were goofy5H >>enough, could you do LAT over TCP/IP? Probably no software for that at6 >>present, but t'would be an interesting experiment... >>     >> > I >   No.  LAT would never tolerate the timing.  Better to use a LAT/TELNET1. >   gateway than try to encapsulate LAT in IP. >  r >sG I don't buy that... For five years, I ran remote DECservers supporting eF both terminals and two matrix printers between Hartford, Albuquerque, G and Scottsdale, over a 56K frame-relay circuit (each) which, by todays  A standards, is was not much better than dialup.  We never had had $H problems with dropped LAT sessions and I believe that there is much too % much made of this 'timing tolerance.'n     Barry)   -- P  > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                        i   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Apr 2004 08:06:59 -0000U5 From: "Doc" <doc.cypher {AT} openvms-rocks {DOT} com>$+ Subject: Re: VMS Security checking softwarer? Message-ID: <20040409195658.695BCFA872@snorky.bananasplit.info>   4 On 7 Apr 2004, Ommo <Ommo_member@newsguy.com> wrote:J >Are there any VMS security checking tools such as SATAN and / or SARA out >there?oP >(Some people where I work are complaining that we've not tested our VMS systemsP >and that hackers will soon own the systems (I know, I've told them).  I know ofP >pointsecure's software but they are arguing that Pointsecure's software isn't aD >standard (such as some people consider SATAN / SARA as a standard).  E We're running without any of the Pointsecure tools, anyone can open a"L nonprivved account, and we've only had one security breach which was via theL web server.  You can point your unix people at our system which is much moreJ visible and tell 'em it's run by a bunch of amateurs who *invite* attempts to break it.  P >I've dug through the freeware disk with no luck.  Any one have any suggestions?  L If you want to test your user password strength there's John the Ripper, see% http://deathrow.vistech.net/john.html6  J >Also, Would there be any merit to running the SATAN against a VMS system?B >(Anyone else try this yet?  If so, were your results reasonable?)  @ I don't think it can do any harm.  If it does flag anything as aH vulnerability, challenge your unix people to exploit it.  That should be reasonably entertaining.     Doc. -- sG OpenVMS:     Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems._G http://www.openvms-rocks.com    Deathrow Public-Access OpenVMS Cluster.t   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:41:54 -0400( From: "Wayne" <bruzeks@atcomcastdot.net> Subject: Re: VMS?e0 Message-ID: <gcCdnSe1yb7ET-vdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>   heh heh!  2 "DL Phillips" <whohe@whoever.com> wrote in message7 news:af0dc2ea.0404090730.466d8d4a@posting.google.com...a >oF > Unfortunately, since the letters VMS appear in the subject and text,1 > their spam filters will probably reject it :-()    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.200 ************************