1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 12 Apr 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 203       Contents:? Re: Alpha is phased out .... UltraSPARC V in the same way ..... ? RE: Alpha is phased out .... UltraSPARC V in the same way ..... % Re: Backup command / Tape help needed , Re: Comments about VMS documentation website, RE: Comments about VMS documentation website, Re: Comments about VMS documentation website< Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail??@ RE: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail?? CXX Linker Issue.... DEC Colorwriter 1000 diskettes4 Re: Emulators:   VAX/VMS, hp3000/MPE and ... AS-400?5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min 5 Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min  Re: FTP service failure  Re: FTP service failure  Gb Ethernet on  AS2100 Re: Kind of farewell& Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 halts during installC Re: PBXGK-BB (ELSA GLoria Synergy, 4D10T (?)) DECwindows colormaps? & Re: Proper management of DECC includes& Re: Proper management of DECC includes& Re: SKHPC: A Total Eclipse of the Sun? Re: VMS?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 09:35:04 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) H Subject: Re: Alpha is phased out .... UltraSPARC V in the same way .....= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0404120835.6d928973@posting.google.com>   s fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) wrote in message news:<f30679fb.0404071102.310d2fae@posting.google.com>... > > Looks like Sun is firing SPARC engineers ! May be they will > > adopt AMD chips as standard ! So... Good By Solaris Sparc !   A The Register is reporting that Sun has cancelled the UltraSparc V % (Millenium) and Gemini chip projects: 6 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/09/sun_kills_us5/1 and cancelled the UltraSparc VI back in February: B http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/02/12/sun_shelves_ultrasparc_vi/   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:44:17 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> H Subject: RE: Alpha is phased out .... UltraSPARC V in the same way .....9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEEIDBAA.tom@kednos.com>   E Well, I am sure many are gleefully wring their hands, but in the long F run lack of competition is not a Good Thing.  Moreover, with the fundsF no longer needed for Sparc development Sun could be a much more fierce< competitor.  I am just surprised that it took Sun this long.     -----Original Message-----:   From: Keith Parris [mailto:keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com]&   Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:35 AM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com J   Subject: Re: Alpha is phased out .... UltraSPARC V in the same way .....      <   fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) wrote in message ;   news:<f30679fb.0404071102.310d2fae@posting.google.com>... @   > Looks like Sun is firing SPARC engineers ! May be they will @   > adopt AMD chips as standard ! So... Good By Solaris Sparc !    C   The Register is reporting that Sun has cancelled the UltraSparc V '   (Millenium) and Gemini chip projects: 8   http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/09/sun_kills_us5/3   and cancelled the UltraSparc VI back in February: D   http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/02/12/sun_shelves_ultrasparc_vi/      --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004     --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:58:40 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>. Subject: Re: Backup command / Tape help needed8 Message-ID: <c5eebh$kilc$1@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de>   NeedHelp wrote: H > Yes the first few records are 80 bytes long.  No, there were no parityM > errors.  It only required one dump command not two.  The results follow.  I E > did find the backup command used in the following listing, with the G > block=1600 qualifier.  Unfortunately my current configuration accepts 6 > /block= sizes in the range of 2048 an 65,535 blocks. >   7 No. Density has nothing to do with block size. It reads   P BACKUP/DENSITY=1600/IMAGE/IGNORE=(INTERLOCK,LABEL)/LIST=A11_QT_01_94.LIS/RECORD ! $1$DIA11: MUC0: A11F.BCK/NOREWIND   2 So it should be BACKUP's default for tape of 8192.  $ > I'm still unable to read the tape. >  >  > A1000:> dump mkb400: > 3 > Dump of device MKB400: on 12-APR-2004 07:16:26.80  > , > Block number 1 (00000001), 80 (0050) bytes > > >  20202020 20203439 39323330 314C4F56 VOL1032994       000000> >  20202020 20202020 20202020 20202020                  000010> >  20202020 20202020 20202020 20202020                  000020> >  20202020 20202020 20202020 20202020                  000030> >  33202020 20202020 20202020 20202020                3 000040 >  >  > 3 > Dump of device MKB400: on 12-APR-2004 07:16:26.80  > , > Block number 2 (00000002), 80 (0050) bytes > > >  20202020 4B43422E 46313141 31524448 HDR1A11F.BCK     000000> >  30313030 30343939 32333020 20202020      03299400010 000010> >  20383830 34392030 30313030 30313030 001000100 94088  000020> >  56434544 30303030 30302038 38303439 94088 000000DECV 000030> >  20202020 20202020 50554B43 4142534D MSBACKUP         000040 >  > 3 > Dump of device MKB400: on 12-APR-2004 07:16:26.80  > , > Block number 3 (00000003), 80 (0050) bytes > > >  20323931 38303239 31383046 32524448 HDR2F0819208192  000000> >  20202020 20202020 20202020 20202020                  000010> >  20202020 20202020 2020204D 20202020     M            000020> >  20202020 20202020 20202020 30302020   00             000030> >  20202020 20202020 20202020 20202020                  000040 >  >         ***  End of file  ***  > 3 > Dump of device MKB400: on 12-APR-2004 07:16:26.80  > . > Block number 4 (00000004), 8192 (2000) bytes > > >  00000000 00000001 00010001 04000100 ................ 000000> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000010> >  00000000 00002000 EA8A86F2 00010101 ....... ...... 000020> >  00000000 0000004B 43422E46 31314108 .A11F.BCK....... 000030> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000040> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000050> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000060> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000070> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000080> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000090> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000A0> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000B0> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000C0> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000D0> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000E0> >  0CA30000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ............... 0000F0> >  00000000 00000000 00000000 00010110 ................ 000100> >  006F4B43 422E4631 31410001 00080101 ......A11F.BCKo. 000110> >  59544953 4E45442F 50554B43 41420002 ..BACKUP/DENSITY 000120> >  4F4E4749 2F454741 4D492F30 3036313D =1600/IMAGE/IGNO 000130> >  414C2C4B 434F4C52 45544E49 283D4552 RE=(INTERLOCK,LA 000140> >  54515F31 31413D54 53494C2F 294C4542 BEL)/LIST=A11_QT 000150> >  44524F43 45522F53 494C2E34 395F3130 01_94.LIS/RECORD 000160> >  3A304355 4D203A31 31414944 24312420  $1$DIA11: MUC0: 000170> >  4E495745 524F4E2F 4B43422E 46313141 A11F.BCK/NOREWIN 000180> >  20202020 204D4554 53595300 04000C44 D....SYSTEM      000190> >  21CCE000 06000800 01000400 05000420  ............! 0001A0   <rest snipped>   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 07:28:34 -0700) From: daniel@mimer.se (Daniel Gustafsson) 5 Subject: Re: Comments about VMS documentation website = Message-ID: <de4cfd03.0404120628.161b9f47@posting.google.com>   [ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message news:<407A4F66.D4223663@istop.com>... O > Wanted to check out the DEC C documentation. Seems that there is no PDF, so I  > have to look at the HTML.    Perhaps you already know this,J but there are PostScript and text documents in the distribution save sets.   CC065_RELEASE_NOTES.PS/TXT IGALPHA.PS/TXT LANGUAGE_REFERENCE.PS/TXT  RBI_ALPHA.PS/TXT RTL_REFERENCE.PS/TXT
 SPD.PS/TXT USERS_GUIDE.PS/TXT   Regards  Daniel Gustafsson  Mimer SQL Development # http://developer.mimer.se/downloads    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:57:13 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 5 Subject: RE: Comments about VMS documentation website 9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIOEEFDBAA.tom@kednos.com>   G You can also use Ghostscript/Ghostview to view the ps files as pdf docs      -----Original Message-----2   From: Daniel Gustafsson [mailto:daniel@mimer.se]&   Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:29 AM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 7   Subject: Re: Comments about VMS documentation website     7   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message '   news:<407A4F66.D4223663@istop.com>... A   > Wanted to check out the DEC C documentation. Seems that there    is no PDF, so I    > have to look at the HTML.       Perhaps you already know this,L   but there are PostScript and text documents in the distribution save sets.     CC065_RELEASE_NOTES.PS/TXT   IGALPHA.PS/TXT   LANGUAGE_REFERENCE.PS/TXT    RBI_ALPHA.PS/TXT   RTL_REFERENCE.PS/TXT   SPD.PS/TXT   USERS_GUIDE.PS/TXT  	   Regards    Daniel Gustafsson    Mimer SQL Development %   http://developer.mimer.se/downloads      --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004    --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:56:51 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> 5 Subject: Re: Comments about VMS documentation website 8 Message-ID: <c5ei00$p5fl$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  / On 2004-04-12 16:28, "Daniel Gustafsson" wrote:   ] > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message news:<407A4F66.D4223663@istop.com>... P >> Wanted to check out the DEC C documentation. Seems that there is no PDF, so I >> have to look at the HTML. >   > Perhaps you already know this,L > but there are PostScript and text documents in the distribution save sets. >  > CC065_RELEASE_NOTES.PS/TXT > [...]   E Then I really don't understand why HP don't convert these PS files to F PDF and make them available on the "OpenVMS Documentation" site. (FromG my experiences, PDF is about one order of magnitude *smaller* than PS.)    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 07:30:30 -0700" From: bob@jfcl.com (Bob Armstrong)E Subject: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail?? = Message-ID: <dc5428e3.0404120630.4241f1e8@posting.google.com>   E Is there any way to configure the TCPIP SMTP server to simply discard D undeliverable mail?  I'm particularly intersted in the case where it@ receives a message for "foo@jfcl.com", where jfcl.com is my realE domain but "foo" is a bogus user name.  I want it to just discard the B message - no bounce messages to Postmaster, and no bounce messages back to the sender.   >   The problem, of course, is SPAM.  I get 200-300 emails a dayD addressed to my domain but with bogus user names, caused by SPAMmersE forging the return address. If there ever was a real bounce in there,  I'd never notice it.  /   BTW, has anybody ported SPAMBAYES to VMS yet?      Oh - this is with OVMS v7.3.   Thanks, 
 Bob Armstrong    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:54:46 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> I Subject: RE: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail?? 9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIIEEFDBAA.tom@kednos.com>   A I use the following RBL's which cut out 200 to 300 emails per day        rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org      dnsbl.njabl.org      sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org  G and with a bunch of filters to reject the most common spam and viruses, K but this is harder (and maybe not possible) to do with TCPIP SMTP than with  MX.      -----Original Message-----+   From: Bob Armstrong [mailto:bob@jfcl.com] &   Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:31 AM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com G   Subject: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail??     G   Is there any way to configure the TCPIP SMTP server to simply discard F   undeliverable mail?  I'm particularly intersted in the case where itB   receives a message for "foo@jfcl.com", where jfcl.com is my realG   domain but "foo" is a bogus user name.  I want it to just discard the D   message - no bounce messages to Postmaster, and no bounce messages   back to the sender.   @     The problem, of course, is SPAM.  I get 200-300 emails a dayF   addressed to my domain but with bogus user names, caused by SPAMmersG   forging the return address. If there ever was a real bounce in there,    I'd never notice it.  1     BTW, has anybody ported SPAMBAYES to VMS yet?         Oh - this is with OVMS v7.3.  	   Thanks,    Bob Armstrong      --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004    --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 09:40:45 -0700$ From: anantha.prabhu@hp.com (Ananth) Subject: CXX Linker Issue.... = Message-ID: <e0273250.0404120840.69ed93de@posting.google.com>    Hello,C While compiling some sources of an application, I am getting lot of 6 linker errors. Following is a sample of linker errors,  7 %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         CXX$RNSTTMCHN55OCLGCLDVS3NR8S79 7 %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         CXX$RNSTTMCHN57OCLGCLDVS1U2U94E 7 %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         CXX$RNSTTMCHN57OCLGCLDVS25VJO9I 7 %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         CXXL$ASQ13STD106VCTRQ1161AK2ERM 7 %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         CXXL$ASQ13STD64VCTRP14OC0DNRK8S 7 %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         CXXL$ASQ13STD68LST18OCOR2UE7GC1 7 %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         CXXL$ASQ13STD96VCTRPQ1110GQ3REV 7 %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         CXXL$ASQ18RWRWSTD612RWRB1CK8RLQ   F Am I missing any libraries which I need to link explicitly? If yes HowD can I find which are those libraries? I am using GNV environment. Is= there any way by which I can identfy these Undefined symbols?    Thanks and Regards Ananth   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 05:41:50 -07002 From: williamwebb@openvms-rocks.com (William Webb)' Subject: DEC Colorwriter 1000 diskettes = Message-ID: <bf98c417.0404120441.45fdec0c@posting.google.com>   C I inherited one of these printers, plus two unopened rolls of film, = from a colleague who is in the process of moving out of town.   = One of the manuals is entitled "Using the DECcolorwriter 1000 8 Diskettes", but unfortunately the diskettes are missing.  9 I have been unable to turn up any diskette images online.    Thanks in advance,   WWWebb   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:22:21 +1200 1 From: Tux Wonder-Dog <wes.parish@paradise.net.nz> = Subject: Re: Emulators:   VAX/VMS, hp3000/MPE and ... AS-400? 3 Message-ID: <06uec.9845$u%1.860410@news02.tsnz.net>    healyzh@aracnet.com wrote:  $ > Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:A >> Speaking of emulators, anyone ever try Hercules to run MVS3.8?  > D > Yes, Hercules seems pretty cool the down side being it's basicallyL > impossible to get anything besides MVS 3.8 for it.  There at least used toH > be a CD image out on the net called "Turnkey MVS" if you can find thatI > it's a snap to set it up (I've done it both myself and with the Turnkey 	 > setup).   H There's a VM/370 4-pack for it - regrettfully I can't remember the guy'sK name or site at this moment - but it exists, and equally importantly, runs.    Plus OS/360 and DOS 3.4. > H > Of course I don't know anything about MVS, so it isn't very useful :^) > H > I like the PDP-10 and PDP-11 emulators, I've used them to get TOPS-10,G > TOPS-20, RT-11, and RSTS/E up and running (though I normally use real   > PDP-11's for the PDP-11 OS's). > 8 > BTW, for DEC emulation I humbly recommend my own site:K > http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html and I have links on the front L > page to a couple non-DEC emulators that have caught my eye.  The CDC Cyber9 > 6600 emulator looks interesting, but I've not tried it.  > L > What I'd really like to see is a DPS-8 emulator running GCOS-8 or Multics,K > but to the best of my knowledge such a beast doesn't exist (I am aware of A > the existance of a DPS-6 emulator running on HP-UX for GCOS-6).  >  > Zane   --  G "Good, late in to more rewarding well."  "Well, you tonight.  And I was K lookintelligent woman of Ming home.  I trust you with a tender silence."  I C get a word into my hands, a different and unbelike, probably - 'she = fortunate fat woman', wrong word.  I think to me, I justupid. G Let not emacs meta-X dissociate-press write your romantic dialogs...!!!    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 06:25:35 -0700& From: twnews@kittles.com (Thomas Wirt)> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min< Message-ID: <b3531425.0404120525.3b992e1@posting.google.com>  @ I am surprised that no one has suggested this yet.  I would use    $ set login/inter F %SET-I-INTSET, login interactive limit = 60, current interactive value = 8   B This will give you the number of interactive users on that node at- that time.  I will leave the parsing for you.    Thomas Wirt  Systems Manager  Kittle's Home Furnishings    G Henry wrote:   > All  > F > I am tring to get the number of interactive users that are logged onG > to our VMS 7.2-1 system every 15 min so I can put together some trend  > data on our system.  > F > I cannot seem to find anywhere that I can get total users except the > sho users command output.    > F > We have tried several things and the only thing we have been able to > come up with is: >  > ----usercount.com ----- ( > $ pipe show users | search sys$input -@ >   users |(read sys$input uu ; write sys$output f$time(),"  ",-= >   f$edit(f$element(1,"=",f$element(0,",",uu)),"COLLAPSE") )  > G > The problem with this is we cannot write the output of this to a file  > eaisly > H > we have gotten it to write a file by submitting the fowlling .com fileA > in sys$batch  with a comamand calling the command file with the  > command above in it  >  > ------Ucount.com------ > $ define sys$output data.dat > $ top: > $ wait 00:00:05  > $ @scripts:usercount > $ goto top > < > (I know the wait is every 5 secs but it is for testing...) > C > THere has to be a better way... Doing it this way the only way to H > querry the data file data.dat is to stop the script from running or do! > a backup with interlock switch.  > ; > anyone have any ideas how we can strealine the process???  >  > Thanks in advance  >  > Gary >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:38:21 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min8 Message-ID: <c5e64d$lb6f$2@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de>   Thomas Wirt wrote:B > I am surprised that no one has suggested this yet.  I would use  >  > $ set login/inter H > %SET-I-INTSET, login interactive limit = 60, current interactive value > = 8  > D > This will give you the number of interactive users on that node at/ > that time.  I will leave the parsing for you.  >   A Aargh. I had dismissed that one because I thought it needed OPER.   < However, OPER is only required when using it to set a value.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:51:46 GMT > From: Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com>> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min= Message-ID: <mKUdc.14528$qh6.3345@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>    G Henry wrote:H > On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 04:23:50 GMT, G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.spamcom> > wrote:
 > Michael: > G > THis is GREAT but it does not work as a submitted job.  WHen I submit G > it to sys$batch the number of users shows as 0 when I spawn it or run $ > oit interactivly it works GREAT..  >  > Any thoguhts???? >  > Gary >  >        $ set verify
     $lcnt = 0 ;     $ !!! now let's create the file if it does not exist... =     $ if f$search("DATA.DAT") .eqs. "" then copy NL: data.dat  >>>$startloop: >>>$cnt = 0  >>>$pid_context = ""	 >>>$loop:  >>>$ pid = f$pid(pid_context) & >>>$ if pid .EQS. "" then goto endloopA >>>$ if f$getjpi(pid,"mode") .eqs. "INTERACTIVE" then cnt = cnt+1 
 >>>$goto loop  >>>$endloop:@ >>>$ write sys$output "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'" >>>$ open/append ofile data.dat ; >>>$ write ofile "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'"  >>>$ close ofile >>>$wait 00:00:05      $ lcnt = lcnt +1     $if lcnt .gt. 5 then exit  >>>$goto startloop >   H I added a loop counter... (lcnt) and set verify.  Submit/log <file> and G   review the log file for the reason why it doesn't work.... works for  C me. Hint: make sure the file exists before   Since I was only on a  H single node and have only 2 users logged in, I forgot about the "number G of users" in the show user output is the total number of unique users,  F not the total number of interactive processes. This command procedure 8 will give you the total number of interactive processes.  D Accounting is good for charge-backs, but is a lot more difficult to - extract number of interactive users per hour.    Michael Austin   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:58:54 GMT * From: G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.spamcom>> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min8 Message-ID: <q2dg70dc04ohujvkm8qgo3n36be60bodb1@4ax.com>   Michael   ; Thanks again but it is not picking up ithe actual number of  interactive users.    B I checked the log file and there there is nothing strange in there  " Here is an except of the log file:  D $ write sys$output "Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1"/ Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1  $ open/append ofile data.dat? $ write ofile "Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1" 
 $ close ofile   F Originally I thought that it might be related to the cluster but I ranF the script on node "A" and as you can see below, there were 4 users on A and 2 users on B  # Here is my sh user at the same time    AS09A$ sh user7       OpenVMS User Processes at 10-APR-2004 13:53:01.81 7     Total number of users = 6,  number of processes = 8    3  Username  Node     Interactive  Subprocess   Batch   FWBR12    AS09B            2   GHENRY    AS09A            1   TS6112    AS09B            1   TW103     AS09A            2   TWAD103   AS09A            1   VNYBR32   AS09A            1  AS09A$     Thanks again!!!    Gary  0 On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Michael Austin0 <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote:   >G Henry wrote: I >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 04:23:50 GMT, G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.spamcom> 	 >> wrote:  >> Michael:  >>  H >> THis is GREAT but it does not work as a submitted job.  WHen I submitH >> it to sys$batch the number of users shows as 0 when I spawn it or run% >> oit interactivly it works GREAT..   >>   >> Any thoguhts????  >>   >> Gary  >>   >>   >    $ set verify  >    $lcnt = 0< >    $ !!! now let's create the file if it does not exist...> >    $ if f$search("DATA.DAT") .eqs. "" then copy NL: data.dat >>>>$startloop:  >>>>$cnt = 0 >>>>$pid_context = "" 
 >>>>$loop: >>>>$ pid = f$pid(pid_context)' >>>>$ if pid .EQS. "" then goto endloop B >>>>$ if f$getjpi(pid,"mode") .eqs. "INTERACTIVE" then cnt = cnt+1 >>>>$goto loop
 >>>>$endloop: A >>>>$ write sys$output "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'"   >>>>$ open/append ofile data.dat< >>>>$ write ofile "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'" >>>>$ close ofile  >>>>$wait 00:00:05 >    $ lcnt = lcnt +1  >    $if lcnt .gt. 5 then exit >>>>$goto startloop  >> > I >I added a loop counter... (lcnt) and set verify.  Submit/log <file> and  H >  review the log file for the reason why it doesn't work.... works for D >me. Hint: make sure the file exists before   Since I was only on a I >single node and have only 2 users logged in, I forgot about the "number  H >of users" in the show user output is the total number of unique users, G >not the total number of interactive processes. This command procedure  9 >will give you the total number of interactive processes.  > E >Accounting is good for charge-backs, but is a lot more difficult to  . >extract number of interactive users per hour. >  >Michael Austin    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:40:09 GMT 4 From: "Roert G. Schaffrath" <rschaffrath@yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 min% Message-ID: <40785BAC.3D3C@yahoo.com>    G Henry wrote: >  > All  > F > I am tring to get the number of interactive users that are logged onG > to our VMS 7.2-1 system every 15 min so I can put together some trend  > data on our system.  > F > I cannot seem to find anywhere that I can get total users except the > sho users command output.  > F > We have tried several things and the only thing we have been able to > come up with is: >  > ----usercount.com ----- ( > $ pipe show users | search sys$input -@ >   users |(read sys$input uu ; write sys$output f$time(),"  ",-= >   f$edit(f$element(1,"=",f$element(0,",",uu)),"COLLAPSE") )  > G > The problem with this is we cannot write the output of this to a file  > eaisly > H > we have gotten it to write a file by submitting the fowlling .com fileA > in sys$batch  with a comamand calling the command file with the  > command above in it  >  > ------Ucount.com------ > $ define sys$output data.dat > $ top: > $ wait 00:00:05  > $ @scripts:usercount > $ goto top > < > (I know the wait is every 5 secs but it is for testing...) > C > THere has to be a better way... Doing it this way the only way to H > querry the data file data.dat is to stop the script from running or do! > a backup with interlock switch.  > ; > anyone have any ideas how we can strealine the process???  >  > Thanks in advance  >  > Gary  H After seeing the various examples, I was wondering do you want the totalC number of interactive users every 15 minutes or the total number of C interactive processes?  If you want the total number of interactive A processes, not unique users, that is easy enough to do with a DCL D EXAMINE command.  Search through SYS$SYSTEM:SYS.MAP for the value of> SYS$GW_IJOBCNT.  On my V5.5-2 and V7.3 system it is located at3 %X800044C0.  Then you simply examine that location:    Example:   $ show user/fu7       VAX/VMS User Processes at 10-APR-2004 16:31:09.04 7     Total number of users = 3,  number of processes = 4   .  Username   Process Name      PID     Terminal)  GUEST    GUEST;1         000000A8  NTY3: )  RGS      R.G.Schaffrath  000000A4  NTY1: )  RGS      RGS;1           000000A7  NTY2: 7  SYSTEM   System Manager  000000A6  RTA1:    (EIS::RGS)  $ examine %X800044C0 800044C0:  00000004   > Of course getting the result of the examine into a variable isF annoying.  However, I have found using that using f$fao in conjunctionH with f$cvui and nice way to get information at specific memory addresses in DCL:   2 $ ijobcnt = f$cvui(0,32,f$fao("!AD",4,%X800044C0)) $ write sys$output ijobcnt 4  $    Hope this helps... Robert   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:55:45 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com> Subject: Re: Finding the Number of users logged on ever 15 minQ Message-ID: <OF76511FBE.744731DC-ON85256E74.0061A56D-85256E74.00628D27@metso.com>   + This is a multipart message in MIME format. " --=_alternative 00628D2585256E74_=, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"  J This will give you the number of intreactive processes, sans subprocesses. Here it is 25.4 The command below will do the same much more easily.  ! Did you want something different?   0 Your loop will, I think count subprocesses, too.B Also, it needs WORLD priv (as has been said) to get every process.    7 $ sho user/nosubprocess/nobatch/nonetwork/nodetach/node 7       OpenVMS User Processes at 12-APR-2004 13:45:09.50 9     Total number of users = 21,  number of processes = 25   C  Username      Node     Interactive  Subprocess   Batch    Network   Detached!   USER100       NODEA           1 !   USER101       NODEA           1 !   USER102       NODEA           1 !   USER103       NODEA           1 !   USER104       NODEA           1 !   USER105       NODEA           1 !   USER106       NODEA           1 !   USER107       NODEA           1 !   USER108       NODEA           1 !   USER109       NODEA           1 !   USER110       NODEA           1 !   USER111       NODEA           1 !   USER112       NODEA           1 !   USER113       NODEA           1 !   USER114       NODEA           2 !   USER115       NODEA           1 !   USER116       NODEA           1 !   USER117       NODEA           4 !   USER118       NODEA           1 !   USER119       NODEA           1 !   USER120       NODEA           1  $ set login/inter J %SET-I-INTSET, login interactive limit = 416, current interactive value =  25  E G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.spamcom> wrote on 04/10/2004 01:58:54 PM:   	 > Michael  > = > Thanks again but it is not picking up ithe actual number of  > interactive users.   > D > I checked the log file and there there is nothing strange in there > $ > Here is an except of the log file: > F > $ write sys$output "Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1"1 > Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1  > $ open/append ofile data.datA > $ write ofile "Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1"  > $ close ofile  > H > Originally I thought that it might be related to the cluster but I ranH > the script on node "A" and as you can see below, there were 4 users on > A and 2 users on B > % > Here is my sh user at the same time  >  > AS09A$ sh user9 >       OpenVMS User Processes at 10-APR-2004 13:53:01.81 9 >     Total number of users = 6,  number of processes = 8  > 5 >  Username  Node     Interactive  Subprocess   Batch  >  FWBR12    AS09B            2  >  GHENRY    AS09A            1  >  TS6112    AS09B            1  >  TW103     AS09A            2  >  TWAD103   AS09A            1  >  VNYBR32   AS09A            1  > AS09A$ >  >  > Thanks again!!!  >  > Gary > 2 > On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Michael Austin2 > <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote: >  > >G Henry wrote: / > >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 04:23:50 GMT, G Henry   <newsgroup@gnshenry.spamcom> > >> wrote: 
 > >> Michael:  > >>  J > >> THis is GREAT but it does not work as a submitted job.  WHen I submitJ > >> it to sys$batch the number of users shows as 0 when I spawn it or run' > >> oit interactivly it works GREAT..   > >>   > >> Any thoguhts????  > >>  	 > >> Gary  > >>   > >>   > >    $ set verify  > >    $lcnt = 0> > >    $ !!! now let's create the file if it does not exist...@ > >    $ if f$search("DATA.DAT") .eqs. "" then copy NL: data.dat > >>>>$startloop:  > >>>>$cnt = 0 > >>>>$pid_context = ""  > >>>>$loop:  > >>>>$ pid = f$pid(pid_context)) > >>>>$ if pid .EQS. "" then goto endloop D > >>>>$ if f$getjpi(pid,"mode") .eqs. "INTERACTIVE" then cnt = cnt+1 > >>>>$goto loop > >>>>$endloop: C > >>>>$ write sys$output "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'" " > >>>>$ open/append ofile data.dat> > >>>>$ write ofile "Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'" > >>>>$ close ofile  > >>>>$wait 00:00:05 > >    $ lcnt = lcnt +1   > >    $if lcnt .gt. 5 then exit > >>>>$goto startloop  > >> > > K > >I added a loop counter... (lcnt) and set verify.  Submit/log <file> and    J > >  review the log file for the reason why it doesn't work.... works for F > >me. Hint: make sure the file exists before   Since I was only on a K > >single node and have only 2 users logged in, I forgot about the "number 0  J > >of users" in the show user output is the total number of unique users, I > >not the total number of interactive processes. This command procedure e; > >will give you the total number of interactive processes.d > >nG > >Accounting is good for charge-backs, but is a lot more difficult to s0 > >extract number of interactive users per hour. > >P > >Michael Austinn >   " --=_alternative 00628D2585256E74_=+ Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"X    L <br><font size=2><tt>This will give you the number of intreactive processes, sans subprocesses.</tt></font>/ <br><font size=2><tt>Here it is 25.</tt></font>eU <br><font size=2><tt>The command below will do the same much more easily.</tt></font>o <br>B <br><font size=2><tt>Did you want something different?</tt></font> <br>Q <br><font size=2><tt>Your loop will, I think count subprocesses, too.</tt></font>rH <br><font size=2><tt>Also, it needs WORLD priv (as has been said) to get every process.</tt></font> <br> <br>X <br><font size=2><tt>$ sho user/nosubprocess/nobatch/nonetwork/nodetach/node</tt></font>O <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; OpenVMS User Processes at 12-APR-2004m 13:45:09.50</tt></font>sK <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; Total number of users = 21, &nbsp;number- of processes = 25</tt></font>- <br>J <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp;Username &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Node &nbsp; &nbsp;` Interactive &nbsp;Subprocess &nbsp; Batch &nbsp; &nbsp;Network &nbsp; &nbsp;Detached</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER100 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER101 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER102 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER103 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER104 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER105 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER106 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER107 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER108 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER109 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER110 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER111 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER112 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER113 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER114 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER115 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER116 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER117 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER118 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER119 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; USER120 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NODEA &nbsp; &nbsp;" &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1</tt></font>2 <br><font size=2><tt>$ set login/inter</tt></font>J <br><font size=2><tt>%SET-I-INTSET, login interactive limit = 416, current" interactive value = 25</tt></font> <br>H <br><font size=2><tt>G Henry &lt;newsgroup@gnshenry.spamcom&gt; wrote on 04/10/2004 01:58:54 PM:<br>l <br> &gt; Michael<br>	 &gt; <br>uD &gt; Thanks again but it is not picking up ithe actual number of<br> &gt; interactive users. <br>	 &gt; <br>tK &gt; I checked the log file and there there is nothing strange in there<br>o	 &gt; <br>a+ &gt; Here is an except of the log file:<br> 	 &gt; <br>IH &gt; $ write sys$output &quot;Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1&quot;<br>8 &gt; Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1<br>% &gt; $ open/append ofile data.dat<br>dF &gt; $ write ofile &quot;Number of users at 10-APR-2004 13:49:47.96 is 1&quot;<br>0 &gt; $ close ofile<br>	 &gt; <br>1G &gt; Originally I thought that it might be related to the cluster but IV ran<br> J &gt; the script on node &quot;A&quot; and as you can see below, there were 4 users on<br> &gt; A and 2 users on B<br> 	 &gt; <br> , &gt; Here is my sh user at the same time<br>	 &gt; <br>  &gt; AS09A$ sh user<br> O &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; OpenVMS User Processes at 10-APR-2004 13:53:01.81<br>MG &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; Total number of users = 6, &nbsp;number of processes0 = 8<br>s &gt; &nbsp;<br> I &gt; &nbsp;Username &nbsp;Node &nbsp; &nbsp; Interactive &nbsp;Subprocess3 &nbsp; Batch<br>G &gt; &nbsp;FWBR12 &nbsp; &nbsp;AS09B &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 &nbsp;2<br> G &gt; &nbsp;GHENRY &nbsp; &nbsp;AS09A &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  &nbsp;1<br>4G &gt; &nbsp;TS6112 &nbsp; &nbsp;AS09B &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  &nbsp;1<br>7G &gt; &nbsp;TW103 &nbsp; &nbsp; AS09A &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;3 &nbsp;2<br>3N &gt; &nbsp;TWAD103 &nbsp; AS09A &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1<br>N &gt; &nbsp;VNYBR32 &nbsp; AS09A &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1<br> &gt; AS09A$<br>2	 &gt; <br>0	 &gt; <br>0 &gt; Thanks again!!!<br>	 &gt; <br>2
 &gt; Gary<br>2	 &gt; <br>09 &gt; On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Michael Austin<br>e? &gt; &lt;maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com&gt; wrote:<br> 	 &gt; <br>  &gt; &gt;G Henry wrote:<br>0^ &gt; &gt;&gt; On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 04:23:50 GMT, G Henry &lt;newsgroup@gnshenry.spamcom&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; Michael:<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>O &gt; &gt;&gt; THis is GREAT but it does not work as a submitted job. &nbsp;WHenB I submit<br>I &gt; &gt;&gt; it to sys$batch the number of users shows as 0 when I spawn0
 it or run<br>04 &gt; &gt;&gt; oit interactivly it works GREAT.. <br> &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>" &gt; &gt;&gt; Any thoguhts????<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; <br> &gt; &gt;&gt; Gary<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; <br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &nbsp;<br>' &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;$ set verify<br>0$ &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;$lcnt = 0<br>R &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;$ !!! now let's create the file if it does not exist...<br>M &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;$ if f$search(&quot;DATA.DAT&quot;) .eqs. &quot;&quot;0 then copy NL: data.dat<br>$ &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$startloop:<br>! &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$cnt = 0<br>04 &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$pid_context = &quot;&quot;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$loop:<br>03 &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$ pid = f$pid(pid_context)<br>0F &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$ if pid .EQS. &quot;&quot; then goto endloop<br>V &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$ if f$getjpi(pid,&quot;mode&quot;) .eqs. &quot;INTERACTIVE&quot; then cnt = cnt+1<br># &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$goto loop<br>1" &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$endloop:<br>L &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$ write sys$output &quot;Number of users at ''f$time()' is ''cnt'&quot;<br>/5 &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$ open/append ofile data.dat<br>1G &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$ write ofile &quot;Number of users at ''f$time()'A is ''cnt'&quot;<br>4& &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$ close ofile<br>' &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$wait 00:00:05<br>5+ &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;$ lcnt = lcnt +1<br>24 &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;$if lcnt .gt. 5 then exit<br>( &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$goto startloop<br> &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>a
 &gt; &gt;<br> J &gt; &gt;I added a loop counter... (lcnt) and set verify. &nbsp;Submit/log &lt;file&gt; and <br>tJ &gt; &gt; &nbsp;review the log file for the reason why it doesn't work.... works for <br>F &gt; &gt;me. Hint: make sure the file exists before &nbsp; Since I was only on a <br>H &gt; &gt;single node and have only 2 users logged in, I forgot about the &quot;number <br>aF &gt; &gt;of users&quot; in the show user output is the total number of unique users, <br>N &gt; &gt;not the total number of interactive processes. This command procedure <br>E &gt; &gt;will give you the total number of interactive processes.<br> 
 &gt; &gt;<br>TI &gt; &gt;Accounting is good for charge-backs, but is a lot more difficultr to <br>/: &gt; &gt;extract number of interactive users per hour.<br>
 &gt; &gt;<br>7 &gt; &gt;Michael Austin<br>"	 &gt; <br>s </tt></font>$ --=_alternative 00628D2585256E74_=--   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:48:47 +0200o9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>s  Subject: Re: FTP service failure' Message-ID: <4078094F.DF57523C@aaa.com>t   During the FTP login ?& Or during some file exchange process ?+ Why not post the actual FTP client output ?t$ What is the client platform anyway ?  	 Jan-Erik.<     "Joseph B. Gurman" wrote:e > L >     When trying to ftp into a 7.2-1 machine with TCPIP services 5.0A - ECOL > 2, I get "550 Failed to open file." Naturally, I have no idea to what fileI > this refers. We use the machine with the ftp server to generate severaliJ > files for Web content, and have been using ftp reliably for severalyears? > to grab the content. It failed around 22:00 EDT last evening.L > J >     I've poked around, looking for files with 32767 version numbers, but > came up empty-handed.  >  >     Any clues appreciated. > 
 >     TIA, >  >                   Joe Gurman >  > --I > "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."oH >                                           - Douglas Adams, 1952 - 2001C > Joseph B. Gurman, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Solar Physicst  > Branch, Greenbelt MD 20771 USA   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:41:18 GMT > From: Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com>  Subject: Re: FTP service failure= Message-ID: <2lWdc.14547$zV6.8946@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>    Joseph B. Gurman wrote:s  L >     When trying to ftp into a 7.2-1 machine with TCPIP services 5.0A - ECOL > 2, I get "550 Failed to open file." Naturally, I have no idea to what fileI > this refers. We use the machine with the ftp server to generate severalCJ > files for Web content, and have been using ftp reliably for severalyears? > to grab the content. It failed around 22:00 EDT last evening.c > J >     I've poked around, looking for files with 32767 version numbers, but > came up empty-handed.n >  >     Any clues appreciated. > 
 >     TIA, >  >                   Joe Gurman >     # Turn on auditing and enable replies.  ! $SET AUDIT/ALARM/ENA=file=failureo $REPLY/ENAB=(SEC,NET)s  # then attempt the ftp session again.    Michael Austin   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:51:25 +0100c6 From: "Grain Court" <christurner@autodata.demon.co.uk> Subject: Gb Ethernet on  AS210074 Message-ID: <c59mks$sgf$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C41F45.F8A2F490f Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1"f+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I Can anyone advise whether it is possible to get a gb ethernet interface =v to work on an Alpha 2100?c    The system is running VMS 7.1J The new gigabit module 3X-DEGXA-TA needs VMS 7.2-2 or 7.3-1 so would not =
 be supported.e  J The old one DEGPA-TA needs VMS 7.1-2 + patches, or V7.2. This isn't such =	 an issue.o  I On the hardware side both these modules need the PCI bus to be V2.1 but =oE the tech manual for the 2100 (not 2100a) says that the PCI is V2. I =eG assume that this means that it's V2.0. Later alphas specify that they =y are V2.1 =20  F On the face of it, a PCI bus upgrade to V2.1 and patches to V7.1 may =I make it work, but this is all theory. Has anyone either done it, or got =4 a better idea?       Chris Turner      + ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C41F45.F8A2F490v Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1"N+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>7 <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =p charset=3Diso-8859-1">9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>s <STYLE></STYLE>a </HEAD>  <BODY>B <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can anyone advise whether it is = possible to get a=20< gb ethernet interface to work on an Alpha 2100?</FONT></DIV>4 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>: <DIV><SPAN class=3D489201321-06042004><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&nbsp;The=20a% system&nbsp;is running VMS 7.1</FONT>eI <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The new gigabit module 3X-DEGXA-TA needs =t VMS 7.2-2 or=20 + 7.3-1 so would not be supported.</FONT></P>eG <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The old one DEGPA-TA needs VMS 7.1-2 + =  patches<SPAN=20h4 class=3D489201321-06042004>,</SPAN> or&nbsp;<SPAN=20< class=3D489201321-06042004>V</SPAN>7.2. This isn't such an = issue.</FONT></P>.H <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the hardware side both these modules = need the PCI=20 G bus to be V2.1 but the tech manual for the 2100 (not 2100a) says that =n
 the PCI is=20 8 V2.&nbsp;I assume that this means that it's V2.0<SPAN=20I class=3D489201321-06042004>.&nbsp;L</SPAN>ater alphas specify that they =r are=20 V2.1&nbsp; </FONT></P>H <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the face of it, a PCI bus upgrade to = V2.1 and=20 F patches to V7.1 may make it work, but this is all theory. Has anyone = either done=20$ it, or got a better idea?</FONT></P>0 <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</P>6 <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris Turner</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3DArial =-5 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</P></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>r  - ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C41F45.F8A2F490--L   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:39:52 -0400c From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: Kind of farewellnQ Message-ID: <OF0C355945.A87328B8-ON85256E74.004E1B60-85256E74.00509E60@metso.com>L  + This is a multipart message in MIME format.N" --=_alternative 00509E5E85256E74_=, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"   Didier,$G First Digital GlobalSoft, and now this.  Je suis de'sole'.  Bon chance!R -Norm2  = Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> wrote on 04/08/2004 04:21:41 PM:L  I > Well, after 22 years of VMS, I merged today my "company" with the Nr 1   IT L> > provider here in Toulouse, where I accepted the position of  > Technical Department   > mgr. > I > The company is in Apple business since the 80's and went to LostDows15 h years E > later, when the margin on Macintosh products schrinked to 3 points.c > K > Today, they^H^H^H^H we sell Apple, Fujitsu, Sage Accounting software and -  J > networking. The "merge" will bring to the new DTL the HP reseller card,  VMS E > consulting (if any) and the FutureVAX/CHARON-VAX serie of products.g > F > As I move from technique to management, I will probably stop reading > newsgroups, E > so do not worry about missing posts, this will mean that I will be o > busy dealing tK > with costs control, budget, quality control, procedures, human resources   and $ > other strategical accounts rescue. >  > Good luck to VMS.e? > If HP France wants to sell VMS to Airbus, please let me know.a > 0 > Best regards to all of you and a HAPPY EASTER. >  > D. >   " --=_alternative 00509E5E85256E74_=+ Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII":    1 <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Didier,</font> J <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">First Digital GlobalSoft, and now this.0 &nbsp;Je suis de'sole'. &nbsp;Bon chance!</font>/ <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-Norm</font>t <br>K <br><font size=2><tt>Didier Morandi &lt;no@spam.com&gt; wrote on 04/08/2004c 04:21:41 PM:<br> <br>G &gt; Well, after 22 years of VMS, I merged today my &quot;company&quot;g with the Nr 1 IT <br> E &gt; provider here in Toulouse, where I accepted the position of <br>n &gt; Technical Department <br>
 &gt; mgr.<br>)	 &gt; <br>'K &gt; The company is in Apple business since the 80's and went to LostDows15i
 years <br>L &gt; later, when the margin on Macintosh products schrinked to 3 points.<br>	 &gt; <br> I &gt; Today, they^H^H^H^H we sell Apple, Fujitsu, Sage Accounting software  and <br>G &gt; networking. The &quot;merge&quot; will bring to the new DTL the HP, reseller card, VMS <br> L &gt; consulting (if any) and the FutureVAX/CHARON-VAX serie of products.<br>	 &gt; <br>CM &gt; As I move from technique to management, I will probably stop reading<br>e &gt; newsgroups, <br>nG &gt; so do not worry about missing posts, this will mean that I will bey <br> &gt; busy dealing <br>M &gt; with costs control, budget, quality control, procedures, human resourcest and <br>+ &gt; other strategical accounts rescue.<br> 	 &gt; <br>b &gt; Good luck to VMS.<br>F &gt; If HP France wants to sell VMS to Airbus, please let me know.<br>	 &gt; <br>H7 &gt; Best regards to all of you and a HAPPY EASTER.<br> 	 &gt; <br>i &gt; D.<br>e	 &gt; <br>i </tt></font>$ --=_alternative 00509E5E85256E74_=--   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 05:37:00 -0700+ From: jfragemann@hotmail.com (J. Fragemann)o/ Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 halts during install = Message-ID: <d9fe5cb4.0404120437.59a19f40@posting.google.com>m   Hi, thanks for your reply ...-  G > 1- CHeck the FAQ  If you have the intel chip set you will not be ablel > to boot to an IDE CDROM Drive:  C My TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA is SCSI right? Otherwise it wouldn't be2 able to fit on the cable ...  G > 2- You need to get a SCSI CDROM and put it on a compatible SCSI card.s9 > Chain it off the same card as you SCSI disks to be safel  B I'll try with an original SCSI CDROM, the type which came with the system.i  rE > 3- you will NEED to get a SCSI cdrom that can can accept a 512Kbytey! > block like the Toshiba XM-6201Be7 > If you do all of the above it will work just fine...    A Thanks Gary, I hope so ... So you are sure this is related to theg CDROM??    Jrgen   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:10:18 GMTu! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>fL Subject: Re: PBXGK-BB (ELSA GLoria Synergy, 4D10T (?)) DECwindows colormaps?8 Message-ID: <ba9g70l00mr4vi0fll3h22klrhac19vjb6@4ax.com>  @ On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 20:41:18 -0500 (CDT), sms@antinode.org wrote:  4 >From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet01REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> > B >> The ringing problem was discussed here a few months ago.  [...] >eJ >   Sure enough.  Bringing the floating pin 7 down to Earth does wonders. H >Thanks for the reminder.  Now my AlpSta 200 is happy again (and at 72HzA >instead of 60Hz, just when I was getting immune to the flicker).n >s: >From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> >o >> [...] >n' >   Thanks for the helpful explanation.e >eI >> Not a lot of good options for you there if you want to use a commodity  >> card. > @ >   I _want_ to use the best there is.  I just don't want to payH >accordingly.  My "new" PWS came with one of the exotic (and unsupportedF >ny VMS) two-slot monster PBXGI-A% assemblies, which I'd be willing toC >trade for something Powerstormy and more VMS-suitable, if anyone's  >interested.  N If you are lucky a generic ATI RAdeon 7500 PCI card designed for PCs will workN just fine & does pretty decent 3D if you can still find the PCI version. ThereN is of course a special sanctioned & supported version of this card for VMS butH if you are on a budget I bought one a couple of months ago for 60 Euros.   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azurt   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:32:01 +0000 (UTC)i1 From: Jefferson Humber <matrix01@globalnet.co.uk> / Subject: Re: Proper management of DECC includesu/ Message-ID: <c5dr71$b7a$1@titan.btinternet.com>t  F I thought it looked in the .TLB file when compiling, and the .H files  were for your reference only.,   I could be wrong though,   J    JF Mezei wrote:  > Per Ekdahl wrote:- > L >>From the VMS help file, also documented in the manual Compaq C for OpenVMS >>Alpha - Users Guide. >  > M > Thanks. Found the info in the HELp file. But am curoius, in what chapter ism8 > that information supposed to be in the User's Guide ?  >  > 6 >>         SYS$COMMON:[DECC$LIB.INCLUDE.DECC$RTLDEF].H8 >>         SYS$COMMON:[DECC$LIB.INCLUDE.SYS$STARLET_C].H >>D >>         If the file is not found, perform the text library search& >>         described in the next step. >  >  > O > Ok, so basically the .tlb access is only done if the .h individual file isn'tyP > found, which means that even if .tlb file access is more efficient, it doesn't? > provide any benefit since the files already exist by default.t > M > Shouldn't the compiler first look at the TLBs for the module  and then lookp# > for a file if not in the module ?>   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 08:32:49 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)o/ Subject: Re: Proper management of DECC includes$3 Message-ID: <HOhrZN1v9wrz@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <407A69B1.F1F3A968@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes: > O > Ok, so basically the .tlb access is only done if the .h individual file isn't P > found, which means that even if .tlb file access is more efficient, it doesn't? > provide any benefit since the files already exist by default.r  G    Generally one should not point the C compiler at the .h files if thei    .tlb is available.   0    I don't.  The default C installation doesn't.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:12:51 -0400h* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>/ Subject: Re: SKHPC: A Total Eclipse of the Sun?b2 Message-ID: <B-Sdnc2o2fuVpOXdRVn-jg@metrocast.net>  4 "David Svensson" <icerq4a@spray.se> wrote in message6 news:734da31c.0404082339.6886e97@posting.google.com...   ...-  E > I am referring to the arrogance of Sun sales people during the goodmG > years. "Sun is the best, everything else is shit etc." The CEO of SunfH > and the marketing people of Sun also have a tone of arrogance, but the > sales people were the worst.  L Well, tooting one's own horn when there's something to toot about is usuallyJ just considered good business:  DEC was certainly culpable of it at pointsF (including times when it should have been paying more attention to itsJ future ability to compete).  And people here have ample reason to rememberK that Compaq was arrogant as hell even when it had *nothing* to be proud of.2  L And then there are companies like EMC, though my impression is that they may+ have cleaned up their act somewhat of late.o  F McNealy is over-the-top often enough, but that's just him - similar toF someone like Jerry Sanders in some ways.  I don't see Sun as unusually! off-putting in this general area.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:18:17 -0400 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> Subject: Re: VMS? 2 Message-ID: <jr2dnf0nOK7Qp-XdRVn-vA@metrocast.net>  8 "Thierry Dussuet" <thierry@MARS.Family> wrote in message) news:slrnc760n4.oa.thierry@MARS.Family...A5 > On 2004-04-06, Charlie Hammond <hammond@not> wrote: 7 > > In article <N6$R1j0QN5kP@eisner.encompasserve.org>,n3 > > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:w > >> > >>> What's the future? > >>( > >>There will be strife in the Mideast. > >>$ > > And stock prices will fluctuate. >G > And there will be a spoon.   May the Fork be with you.t   - bill   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.203 ************************