1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 13 Apr 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 204       Contents:@ Re: AMD OpteronT Processor Powers New Family of Sun Fire Servers; Anybody used an Dell Powervault 120T DLT w/ DS20E or AS800? ? RE: Anybody used an Dell Powervault 120T DLT w/ DS20E or AS800? @ Re: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail?? Re: DCL Coding StandardsP Folks if you are planning on attending the boot camp please consider registeringD OpenVMS Pearl - Excellent Genesis Health System Customer TestimonialC Re: PBXGK-BB (ELSA GLoria Synergy, 4D10T (?)) DECwindows colormaps?  Re: Postscript [OT]HP's Web Site is #1  Re: [OT]HP's Web Site is #1   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 14:54:31 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) I Subject: Re: AMD OpteronT Processor Powers New Family of Sun Fire Servers = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0404121354.1bbc8460@posting.google.com>   p "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message news:<6VY7c.29229$5ze.57@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...F > "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> wrote in message. > news:%oY7c.1434$rp1.1207@news.cpqcorp.net...J > > "Andrew Harrison" <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> wrote in message. > > news:c3ffta$369$2@new-usenet.uk.sun.com... > > > UltraSPARC IV+ > > > UltraSPARC V
 > > > Niagara 
 > > > Rock > > > < > > > All currently under development, some in first silicon > > I > > Bookmark this for when Sun eventually cancels some or all of them and J > > announces that they will be pursuing an AMD strategy across the board. > K > Sun may well do that, but they won't until Solaris is fully ported to the M > Opteron and has no compatibility problems, the vast majority of the Solaris M > layered products are ported and tested, large numbers of ISV's (say greater K > than the 300 HP is talking about for VMS) have ported the majority of the K > 10,000 applications available on Solaris, and Sun/Opereron boxes are well 9 > received by customers as demonstrated by sales numbers.   $ Apparently Sun can't wait that long.  A And being in development, even being in first silicon, apparently F can't protect Sun's projects against cancellation, given Sun's currentE financial straits. The UltraSparc V was reportedly already taped out. E Yet The Register is reporting that Sun has cancelled the UltraSparc V ) (Millenium) and the Gemini chip projects: 7 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/09/sun_kills_us5/  > And Sun reportedly already cancelled the UltraSparc VI back in	 February: B http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/02/12/sun_shelves_ultrasparc_vi/  D According to CNET, which echoes the above report on UltraSparc V and Gemini: 9 http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5189458.html?tag=nefd.top E Niagara and Rock aren't due out until the late-2006 to 2007 timerrame A anyway. So there's still plenty of time left to cancel those. :-)    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 00:10:46 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")D Subject: Anybody used an Dell Powervault 120T DLT w/ DS20E or AS800?6 Message-ID: <00A30439.8F0E4FC1@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>   Comp.os.vmsers --   	 VMS 7.3-2  DS20E and/or AlphaServer 800  N I've been offered a Dell Powervault 120T, which is a DLT 7000 autoloader with G a 7 tape slot.  I'm at a government lab run under contract by a private M university, so it's not as though there were a lot of money floating around,  O and I could certainly use another autoloader.  (I already have a Compaq-labeled N MT-891 unit, which is great, but now my daily incrementals have run over onto O two tapes, and I'd have to change tapes in the autoloader every couple of days,  and it's painful.)  O So has anybody used one of these units with VMS and can you report experiences?    Thanks,    -- Alan  --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:27:27 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> H Subject: RE: Anybody used an Dell Powervault 120T DLT w/ DS20E or AS800?9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIGEENDBAA.tom@kednos.com>   B I hooked a Powervault 110T which is a DLT4000 to a VAX running 7.3 if that is of any help.      -----Original Message------   From: "Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr" )   [mailto:winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU] &   Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:11 PM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com F   Subject: Anybody used an Dell Powervault 120T DLT w/ DS20E or AS800?         Comp.os.vmsers --       VMS 7.3-2    DS20E and/or AlphaServer 800   @   I've been offered a Dell Powervault 120T, which is a DLT 7000    autoloader with I   a 7 tape slot.  I'm at a government lab run under contract by a private >   university, so it's not as though there were a lot of money    floating around,  C   and I could certainly use another autoloader.  (I already have a     Compaq-labeledB   MT-891 unit, which is great, but now my daily incrementals have    run over onto B   two tapes, and I'd have to change tapes in the autoloader every    couple of days,    and it's painful.)   >   So has anybody used one of these units with VMS and can you    report experiences?    	   Thanks,    	   -- Alan    --  D   ==================================================================   ============= 2    Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUC    Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:      650/926-3056@    Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo    Park CA   94025 D   ==================================================================   =============       --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004     --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 15:03:03 -0700" From: bob@jfcl.com (Bob Armstrong)I Subject: Re: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail?? < Message-ID: <dc5428e3.0404121403.43b48b0@posting.google.com>  l Don Sykes <paladin@mydomain.com> wrote in message news:<xpAec.50745$XO7.18044@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>... >...  H > With HP TCPIP Services, the short answer is NO and it's a BIG failing. > ....  8   Thanks, Don - I suspected as much, but I was hoping...  F   There's something here that I don't understand, though.  Imagine, ifC you will, me sitting here with my VAX and somebody out there in the F Internet universe tries to connect to port 25.  No problem - TCPIP for= OVMS runs the TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER.EXE program to talk to him.   D   My end and the other end exchange HELOs and maybe a MAIL FROM, andD then the other side sends RCPT TO and an address.  Now, if the otherC side says something like RCPT TO: <user@somewhere-else.com> and you 8 have relay disabled (and you're nuts if you don't!) then? TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER immediately says "551 User not local, Relay F disabled." and that's the end of it. Obviously TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER hasB some ability to parse the RCPT TO address, or it couldn't do this.  @   My question is, given that TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER already has the@ ability to parse the email address, why, when the other end says: something like RCPT TO: <bogus-user@mydomain.com>, doesn'tF TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER just immediately say "550 No such user." ??  If it; would just do this, then the whole problem would be solved!   8   At first I thought this was just a failing in the OVMSE implementation, but I've tried it on other, non-VMS, SMTP servers and @ they work the same way.  What is it about SMTP that I don't know here??   Thanks, 
 Bob Armstrong    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 17:38:27 -0700. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)! Subject: Re: DCL Coding Standards = Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0404121638.7b09530b@posting.google.com>   	 Hi David!   ~ "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message news:<407AC6FA.1BC5000A@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>... > "Alan E. Feldman" wrote: > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message news:<4075F5AE.3321BE00@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>... > > > [snip]K > > > O.k. it isn't - and water is dry, air is wet, solids flow and liquids " > > > don't, ... See? I CAN learn! > > 3 > > Did you know that everything you know is wrong?  > A > According to you, yes. According to my everyday experience, no.   C This is a joke from the great album "Everything You Know Is Wrong". ? Did you know that everything you know is wrong? I mean, it's so D ridiculous I didn't think you'd take it seriously! (OK, OK, I shouldC have added a smiley. Sorry, I guess it doesn't come across the same D way in text as it does in person!) This gem is from the comedy groupD Firesign Theater. They even have a Web site so you can check it out.D They also wrote the "Nick Danger, Third Eye" skits. Very good stuff.! You might even catch them on PBS.   ? > Which do *YOU* think holds the greater credibility in my eye?  > ; > Being contrary for the sake of being contrary tends to be > > counter-productive and leads to (sub-)threads like this one. > H > You may wish to consider that other people's experiences and paradigmsH > differ from your own, and that if you give respect, you'll receive it.  A Hey man, you accused me of over-indenting and tried to show it by D using disappearing tabs! And "much less keyboard intensive" for you, maybe not for others!   / Like I said, don't have an apostrophe over it.    > > Just a couple of suggestions - do with them what you will...  8 I was right about the comet! (Yes, it's from the album.)  C I was right about the fifth force! (No, not from the album ... this  one is mine and it's true!)    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 19:34:48 -07001 From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski) Y Subject: Folks if you are planning on attending the boot camp please consider registering = Message-ID: <857e9e41.0404121834.7fcea82d@posting.google.com>   C The slots are filling up quickly and I would like to make sure that 3 folks get in. http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/bootcamp   
 Warm Regards,  Sue    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2004 19:36:20 -07001 From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski) M Subject: OpenVMS Pearl - Excellent Genesis Health System Customer Testimonial = Message-ID: <857e9e41.0404121836.21e3381c@posting.google.com>    Dear Folks,   F Attached are the URL for this excellent customer testimonial that Marc< Courchesne just sent.  Please take a moment to look at this.   Many thanks to Marc Courchesne.   A Here are pointers to the new Genesis Health System success story.   F html:  http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/genesis/genesis.htmE Pdf:  http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/genesis/genesis.pdf   
 Warm Regards, 
 Sue Skonetski    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:04:47 -0500 (CDT)  From: sms@antinode.orgL Subject: Re: PBXGK-BB (ELSA GLoria Synergy, 4D10T (?)) DECwindows colormaps?) Message-ID: <04041215044735@antinode.org>   ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>   P > If you are lucky a generic ATI RAdeon 7500 PCI card designed for PCs will workP > just fine & does pretty decent 3D if you can still find the PCI version. ThereP > is of course a special sanctioned & supported version of this card for VMS butJ > if you are on a budget I bought one a couple of months ago for 60 Euros.  D    Still a bit pricy by my standards, but not outrageous.  I thoughtG that the ATI card was in the same boat as the 3DLabs OXYGEN VX1, namely B supported only on EV6 (and up), not my lowly EV5 PWS.  (I actuallyH invested in one of these for my now-dead XP1000, freeing up an ELSA so I* could get into trouble with it elsewhere.)  B    Could an ATI Radeon 7500 (PCI) be my ticket to bliss on my PWS?  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:30:43 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com>  Subject: Re: Postscript 8 Message-ID: <c5erbo$rp2m$2@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  * On 2004-04-12 20:31, "Hoff Hoffman" wrote:  p > In article <c5ei00$p5fl$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>, Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> writes:H > :Then I really don't understand why HP don't convert these PS files toI > :PDF and make them available on the "OpenVMS Documentation" site. (From J > :my experiences, PDF is about one order of magnitude *smaller* than PS.) > J >   That depends highly on the particular Postscript converter involved.            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ K >   In practice, generated Postscript can be very tight and very efficient. K >   Unfortunately, some of the Postscript converters can be exceedingly to  D >   extremely inefficient, and can generate huge and wasteful files.  A Agreed. But as far as I know Adobe's "distiller" uses compression F (ZIP-like) for the contents (with the exception of metadata describingL the document) while PS is plain text. (I don't know about other converters.)  F And it still doesn't explain why the PDF documents aren't available on the web.   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:23:21 -0500 / From: "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com>   Subject: [OT]HP's Web Site is #1T Message-ID: <92EFB80E551BD511B39500D0B7B0CDCC135E4922@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>  G The Customer Respect Group, examined the Web sites of 61 top technology I companies for privacy and ease of use. HP had the best results of all the 7 high-tech companies surveyed followed by IBM and Xerox.    More info from CNET is at:* http://news.com.com/2100-1038-5185173.html- <http://news.com.com/2100-1038-5185173.html>     EdE **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:23:26 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> $ Subject: Re: [OT]HP's Web Site is #18 Message-ID: <c5erbl$rp2m$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  ( On 2004-04-12 20:23, "Stuart, Ed" wrote:  I > The Customer Respect Group, examined the Web sites of 61 top technology K > companies for privacy and ease of use. HP had the best results of all the              ^^^^^^^^^^^ 9 > high-tech companies surveyed followed by IBM and Xerox.  >  > [...]   C With "sales.liveperson.net" tracking the usage?? Really strange ...    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.204 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          HHU&bDjHM%RLr\!WUr\#uZNr(7b[V'r).[PF]R$U&!4~i&ȃ┇򈴑NK(K:cS<OI `A<9*r1!#QXo.UxDF0&b:ӉěD1EU o90{>1O|CG|D|,dOSbXv&Ke:L_VJBV*Yc-e.:Z
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