1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 14 Apr 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 207       Contents:- Re: American Airlines discloses personal data - Re: American Airlines discloses personal data  Re: DCL Coding Standards) J F  M E Z E I - The Wanking Troll of RTA " osu/http_server, cookies & profile- Re: OT - Outsourced customer service - Amazon 9 Re: OT - VAT in EU & Outsourced customer service - Amazon  RE: Postscript Re: Postscript Re: Question on processors RE: Restore using backup= Stanfords slowaris/linux servers hacked ... should be on VMS!  VAX/VMS-WNT integration...  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST)% From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> 6 Subject: Re: American Airlines discloses personal data8 Message-ID: <0a438132bae48e51860d9b8c5d5bdc68@dizum.com>  % Matt <somewhere@somewhere.com> wrote:   K >Yawn.....your rantings really are tiring to read.  What is there a website H >somewhere where you people go and copy/paste this stuff?  Try having anF >original thought.  You obviously don't like the US.  By the way, what >country are you from?  P Sweetie, before wasting your time arguing with some psycho on usenet, it pays toM do a little research to find out who he is.  JF isn't paying any attention to F you.  He's too busy trolling with one hand and wanking with the other:   FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS    About JF MEZEI   (Rev. Mar. 28, 2004)   1.  Who is JF Mezei?  G Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit J rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the) longest running trolls in usenet history.   J ***WARNING:  JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER.  HE FORGES THE NAME AND E-MAILO ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS THEIR MESSAGES.***   I If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor the K control.cancel newsgroup.  If you find that he has cancelled your messages, P forward a copies of them to Ralph Doncaster of Istop at  ralph@doncaster.on.ca .  " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.    3.  Where does he live?    Montreal, Quebec, Canada   Jean-Francois Mezei  86 Harwood Gate  Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3  (514) 695-8259  / His current e-mail address is jfmezei@istop.com   * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  H His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourO newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out, O every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listen to pleas I to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay O attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just M goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears G closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"    5.  What does he troll about?   P His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  He hates theK USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing C fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.   $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  P Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceralP hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a happier, better, moreJ successful version of their country and they can't stand it.  Some of JF'sN favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis ofJ evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.  # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?   P Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre.  Among hisI favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys, M circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.    8.  Circumcision???   P Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes to insertF circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF wasP traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,O left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world. N Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,O he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As soon as he could he arranged D to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcisionN proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy.  His mainO argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised M without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has > made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.  H 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.  N Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects dearO to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's J foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.  He is also aK tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate H early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".  L He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their littleM boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement, O and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia for JF would be a > world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.  M 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!  Are  you sure about all this stuff?  P Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade full of Mezei trolling in there.   M 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like  all trolls do?  K Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling  aliases.  G 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?   O Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a grown man O who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups M all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bike G down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.   9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?   M Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never got past G the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my H finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.  L 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
 that true?  M Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room. N He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms overP the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.  He stalks the menO in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is N left if they have been circumcised.  He gets extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.   O 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane asylum!   M Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat N world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF is that heL sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, especially the) USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.   O What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was J "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,N writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a goodM freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major events that made him P fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines andO their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil).  So paranoid is M he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees O went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air D Canada markings.  He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash1 investigation.  He has never recovered from this.   6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  O His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient, J arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously forM decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share J his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore.  It's really pathetic!  ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?   I can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer G groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the N sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlesslyP with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for.  But they ranN him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail% between his legs, licking his wounds.   P 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.  O Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips P in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,L more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they* won't find out what a major netkook he is.  P 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho he is!  O Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while you're at I it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.  And to O alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.   4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  H Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   abuse@istop.com  abuse@sympatico.ca abuse@bellglobal.com  L For personal attention, you may contact Ralph Doncaster at Istop directly at ralph@doncaster.on.ca.  P And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, email it toP people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazinesI that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.      *** APPENDIX ***  P List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years.  This isK only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.    jfmezei@istop.com  jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com  jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca  nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca  "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>  nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  nobody <nobody@null.dev>) Lorenna Bobbit <lbobbit@ginsu_knives.com> ' Lando Calrisian <Lcalrisian@empire.org>  muklak <muklak@eskimo.net> Sheep skin <sheep@station.au> # snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree> ) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> & Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> " Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> " Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> ( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> % Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org> ! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> # Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>   Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>  Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> $ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> ! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>   Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org> % Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org> $ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> & Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> % Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org> & Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> ( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil> ' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> % Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> $ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> ( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org> " Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> & Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> ) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org> ' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> " Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> * Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org> * Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  Q <queue@continuum.net>  Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>   ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:13:02 -0400 + From: "Chris" <an_other@somewhere_else.com> 6 Subject: Re: American Airlines discloses personal data3 Message-ID: <P_Aec.25436$kc2.369405@nnrp1.uunet.ca>   J These constant "warnings" are far more annoying than any trolling that may( (or may NOT) have been attributed to JF.    Go away.........far..........now   --F The preceding opinions are those of the writer, and don't ever seem to represent those of his employer     2 "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message2 news:0a438132bae48e51860d9b8c5d5bdc68@dizum.com...' > Matt <somewhere@somewhere.com> wrote:  > E > >Yawn.....your rantings really are tiring to read.  What is there a  website J > >somewhere where you people go and copy/paste this stuff?  Try having anH > >original thought.  You obviously don't like the US.  By the way, what > >country are you from? > J > Sweetie, before wasting your time arguing with some psycho on usenet, it pays to L > do a little research to find out who he is.  JF isn't paying any attention toH > you.  He's too busy trolling with one hand and wanking with the other: >  > FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
 >    About
 > JF MEZEI >  > (Rev. Mar. 28, 2004) >  > 1.  Who is JF Mezei? > I > Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit L > rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the+ > longest running trolls in usenet history.  > L > ***WARNING:  JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER.  HE FORGES THE NAME AND E-MAILD > ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS THEIR MESSAGES.*** > K > If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor the C > control.cancel newsgroup.  If you find that he has cancelled your 	 messages, 9 > forward a copies of them to Ralph Doncaster of Istop at  ralph@doncaster.on.ca .  > $ > 2.  How long has he been trolling? >  > For well over a decade.  >  > 3.  Where does he live?  >  > Montreal, Quebec, Canada >  > Jean-Francois Mezei  > 86 Harwood Gate  > Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3  > (514) 695-8259 > 1 > His current e-mail address is jfmezei@istop.com  > , > 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll? > J > His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourL > newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out,K > every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listen to  pleas K > to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay L > attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he justJ > goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his earsI > closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"  >  > 5.  What does he troll about?  > H > His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  He	 hates the A > USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a  USA-bashing E > fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.  > & > 6.  What does he hate about the USA? > I > Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a  visceralE > hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a happier,  better, moreL > successful version of their country and they can't stand it.  Some of JF'sH > favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of L > evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all > Americans are stupid" etc. > % > 7.  What about his sexual trolling?  > G > Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre. 	 Among his K > favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys, F > circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless. >  > 8.  Circumcision???  > K > Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes to  insertH > circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF wasJ > traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada, J > left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world.J > Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time, H > he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As soon as he could he arrangedF > to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcisionK > proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy.  His  mainE > argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting  circumcised K > without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he  has @ > made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel. > J > 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky. > K > Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects  dearK > to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little  boy's L > foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.  He is also aB > tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to
 masturbateJ > early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans". > G > He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their  littleE > boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper 	 movement, L > and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia for JF would be a@ > world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises. > J > 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute! Are   > you sure about all this stuff? > F > Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade full  > of Mezei trolling in there.  > J > 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like > all trolls do? > D > Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling
 > aliases. > I > 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?  > G > Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a 	 grown man F > who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the
 newsgroupsJ > all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bikeI > down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.  > ; > 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?  > J > Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never got pastI > the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my J > finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow. > K > 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them,  is > that true? > I > Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker  room. K > He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms  overJ > the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.  He stalks the men G > in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how 	 little is H > left if they have been circumcised.  He gets extremely excited when he spots a  > case of phimosis.  > I > 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane  asylum!  > K > Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil  hat H > world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF is that he J > sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, especially the + > USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.  > F > What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail
 system wasL > "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,K > writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a  goodK > freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major events that made  him E > fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian  Airlines andE > their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil).  So  paranoid is E > he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada 	 employees I > went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up  the Air F > Canada markings.  He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash3 > investigation.  He has never recovered from this.  > 8 > 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him! > H > His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient,L > arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously forI > decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who  share L > his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore.  It's > really pathetic! > # > 17.  Where else does he hang out?  > K > can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer I > groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the C > sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it  relentlesslyI > with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for.  But  they ranK > him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his  tail' > between his legs, licking his wounds.  > K > 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't  troll. > K > Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he  slips @ > in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and, I > more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so  they, > won't find out what a major netkook he is. > K > 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of  psycho > he is! > G > Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while 	 you're at K > it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.  And to 4 > alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet. > 6 > 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address? > J > Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to: >  > abuse@istop.com  > abuse@sympatico.ca > abuse@bellglobal.com > K > For personal attention, you may contact Ralph Doncaster at Istop directly  at > ralph@doncaster.on.ca. > L > And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, email it to H > people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and	 magazines K > that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.  >  >  > *** APPENDIX *** > I > List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years.  This is G > only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full  list.  >  > jfmezei@istop.com  > jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com  > jfmezei@videotron.ca > jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca  > nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca   > "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam] >  > nobody <nobody@nobody.com> > nobody <nobody@nobody.net> > nobody <nobody@nobody.org> > nobody <nobody@nobody.info>  > nobody <nobody@nobody.int> > nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  > nobody <nobody@null.dev>+ > Lorenna Bobbit <lbobbit@ginsu_knives.com> ) > Lando Calrisian <Lcalrisian@empire.org>  > muklak <muklak@eskimo.net> > Sheep skin <sheep@station.au> % > snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree> + > Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> ( > Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>& > Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>' > Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  > Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>' > Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> $ > Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>& > Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>/ > Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ) > Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> $ > Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> > Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ) > Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> * > Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>( > Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org>! > Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ) > Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> ' > Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  > Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org> # > Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> % > Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org> " > Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>& > Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>( > Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>& > Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>, > Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org>  > Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org># > Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org> ! > Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> & > Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org># > Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> # > Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org> " > Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>& > Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org>  > Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>' > Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org> ' > Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org> & > Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> > Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> ( > Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>* > Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>' > Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> ' > Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org> ( > Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>, > Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>( > Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>) > Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ) > Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> * > Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>. > Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>0 > Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> > Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil> ) > Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> ' > Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> & > Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>$ > Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>( > Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org>% > Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> * > Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>' > Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org> $ > Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>' > Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> ( > Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>) > Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> + > Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org> ) > Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> $ > Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>* > Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>. > George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>- > Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> , > Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>* > Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>) > Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org> , > Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org>! > T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  > Q <queue@continuum.net>  > Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>, > Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>+ > John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>  > = > *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:05:05 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com! Subject: Re: DCL Coding Standards Q Message-ID: <OFD7444D34.4D9EEAF3-ON85256E76.004D0E4F-85256E76.004D6F33@metso.com>   + This is a multipart message in MIME format. " --=_alternative 004D6F3185256E76_=, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"  D "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote on  04/12/2004 12:34:25 PM:    > Alex Daniels wrote:  > > H > > "Michael Austin" <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote in  message : > > news:Vbhec.8208$_H2.4407@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...C > > > I wish that DEC would have actually released the DCL compiler J > > > engineering tinkered with back in the mid-1980's...  They had a MVIIJ > > > that would take more that 1/2 hr to boot using the DCL procedures --H > > > only 5 minutes with the compiled version...  Then again, that was  before > > > Alpha....  > > >  > > F > > There was a third pary DCL compiler released, I checked into this  again B > > around 18months ago and the company were no longer selling it. > > I > > They did however say they would get a working copy ( for 7.3-1 as it   was at; > > the time) going for approx 20k USD, I didn't persue it.  > > > I think that was called Channel Islands Software or similar. >  > It was a good idea, but... > G > The result of "compiling" DCL was Fortran source (at the time, one of F > DEC's most expensive compilers, just after COBOL, I think). So, thatJ > rather killed it right there. Macro/32 output would have produced a muchI > more salable product (*EVERY* VMS system shipped with Macro/32, zero(0) 9 > with Fortran - you had to purchase Fortran separately).  > A > Add to this that the resulting .EXE required a licensed RTL and 6 > portability of compiled proc.'s went out the window. > = > So, as value proposition, it represented a negative number.  > G > ...and on today's Alphas like GS1280, DCL is quite fast, even complex E > proc.'s with much recursion and re-entry. So, except for reasons of H > secrecy, the value of such a product today would be extremely limited, > IMO.  J There was some discussion also about using it to install "DCL" procedures 1 with privilege(s) by first compiling into an exe.    >  > --   > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " --=_alternative 004D6F3185256E76_=+ Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"      <br>_ <br><font size=2><tt>&quot;David J. Dachtera&quot; &lt;djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net&gt; $ wrote on 04/12/2004 12:34:25 PM:<br> <br> &gt; Alex Daniels wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; <br>T &gt; &gt; &quot;Michael Austin&quot; &lt;maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com&gt; wrote in message<br>D &gt; &gt; news:Vbhec.8208$_H2.4407@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...<br>P &gt; &gt; &gt; I wish that DEC would have actually released the DCL compiler<br>M &gt; &gt; &gt; engineering tinkered with back in the mid-1980's... &nbsp;They  had a MVII<br>P &gt; &gt; &gt; that would take more that 1/2 hr to boot using the DCL procedures --<br>L &gt; &gt; &gt; only 5 minutes with the compiled version... &nbsp;Then again, that was before<br>  &gt; &gt; &gt; Alpha....<br> &gt; &gt; &gt;<br> &gt; &gt; <br>F &gt; &gt; There was a third pary DCL compiler released, I checked into this again<br>L &gt; &gt; around 18months ago and the company were no longer selling it.<br> &gt; &gt; <br>H &gt; &gt; They did however say they would get a working copy ( for 7.3-1 as it was at<br>E &gt; &gt; the time) going for approx 20k USD, I didn't persue it.<br>e	 &gt; <br>mE &gt; I think that was called Channel Islands Software or similar.<br>e	 &gt; <br>d# &gt; It was a good idea, but...<br>M	 &gt; <br>TG &gt; The result of &quot;compiling&quot; DCL was Fortran source (at thet time, one of<br>M &gt; DEC's most expensive compilers, just after COBOL, I think). So, that<br>EF &gt; rather killed it right there. Macro/32 output would have produced
 a much<br>P &gt; more salable product (*EVERY* VMS system shipped with Macro/32, zero(0)<br>@ &gt; with Fortran - you had to purchase Fortran separately).<br>	 &gt; <br>-H &gt; Add to this that the resulting .EXE required a licensed RTL and<br>= &gt; portability of compiled proc.'s went out the window.<br>r	 &gt; <br> D &gt; So, as value proposition, it represented a negative number.<br>	 &gt; <br>hN &gt; ...and on today's Alphas like GS1280, DCL is quite fast, even complex<br>L &gt; proc.'s with much recursion and re-entry. So, except for reasons of<br>O &gt; secrecy, the value of such a product today would be extremely limited,<br>h
 &gt; IMO.<br>e </tt></font>M <br><font size=2><tt>There was some discussion also about using it to installo' &quot;DCL&quot; procedures </tt></font> R <br><font size=2><tt>with privilege(s) by first compiling into an exe.</tt></font> <br> <br><font size=2><tt>&gt; <br> &gt; -- <br> &gt; David J. Dachtera<br> &gt; dba DJE Systems<br> &gt; http://www.djesys.com/<br>i	 &gt; <br>t1 &gt; Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:<br>e( &gt; http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/<br> </tt></font>$ --=_alternative 004D6F3185256E76_=--   ------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:40:10 +0200 (CEST)% From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>O2 Subject: J F  M E Z E I - The Wanking Troll of RTA8 Message-ID: <22b10ab2d84e23ab28b188f50b77aaff@dizum.com>   FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS    About JF MEZEI   (Rev. Mar. 28, 2004)   1.  Who is JF Mezei?  G Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hitnJ rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the) longest running trolls in usenet history.l  J ***WARNING:  JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER.  HE FORGES THE NAME AND E-MAILO ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS THEIR MESSAGES.***   I If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor theuK control.cancel newsgroup.  If you find that he has cancelled your messages,lP forward a copies of them to Ralph Doncaster of Istop at  ralph@doncaster.on.ca .  " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.s   3.  Where does he live?s   Montreal, Quebec, Canada   Jean-Francois Mezeim 86 Harwood Gatei Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3  (514) 695-8259  / His current e-mail address is jfmezei@istop.comi  * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  H His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourO newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out,hO every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listen to pleashI to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay O attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he justuM goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his earsmG closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"o   5.  What does he troll about?o  P His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  He hates theK USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing C fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.g  $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  P Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceralP hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a happier, better, moreJ successful version of their country and they can't stand it.  Some of JF'sN favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis ofJ evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.  # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?   P Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre.  Among hisI favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys,,M circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.e   8.  Circumcision???p  P Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes to insertF circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF wasP traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,O left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world. N Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,O he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As soon as he could he arrangedrD to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcisionN proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy.  His mainO argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcisedrM without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he hasl> made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.  H 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.  N Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects dearO to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy'siJ foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.  He is also aK tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbateyH early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".  L He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their littleM boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement,xO and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia for JF would be at> world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.  M 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!  Arel you sure about all this stuff?  P Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade full of Mezei trolling in there.s  M 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like  all trolls do?  K Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trollingm aliases.  G 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?d  O Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a grown manvO who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroupslM all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bikebG down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.u  9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?a  M Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never got pastrG the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull myhH finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.  L 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
 that true?  M Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room.iN He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms overP the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.  He stalks the menO in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little isrN left if they have been circumcised.  He gets extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.a  O 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane asylum!r  M Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hateN world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF is that heL sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, especially the) USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.i  O What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was J "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,N writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a goodM freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major events that made himiP fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines andO their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil).  So paranoid is M he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees O went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the AiryD Canada markings.  He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash1 investigation.  He has never recovered from this.u  6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  O His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient,dJ arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously forM decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who sharemJ his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore.  It's really pathetic!  ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?   I can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computeroG groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded thehN sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlesslyP with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for.  But they ranN him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail% between his legs, licking his wounds.   P 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.  O Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips,P in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,L more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they* won't find out what a major netkook he is.  P 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho he is!  O Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while you're at.I it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.  And toeO alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.   4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  H Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   abuse@istop.comp abuse@sympatico.ca abuse@bellglobal.com  L For personal attention, you may contact Ralph Doncaster at Istop directly at ralph@doncaster.on.ca.  P And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, email it toP people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazinesI that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.y     *** APPENDIX ***  P List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years.  This isK only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.u   jfmezei@istop.comq jfmezei.spamnot@istop.coma jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca  nospam.jfmezei@videotron.cal "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>a nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>@ nobody <nobody@null.dev>) Lorenna Bobbit <lbobbit@ginsu_knives.com>i' Lando Calrisian <Lcalrisian@empire.org>f muklak <muklak@eskimo.net> Sheep skin <sheep@station.au>u# snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree> ) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> & Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>i Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> " Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com>d' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com>I" Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org>n' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> ( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org>t' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org>a% Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>o Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org>n! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org>@# Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>m  Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>e Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org>.$ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org>x! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>n  Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org>a% Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org>e$ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com>r& Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org>S% Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org>C& Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org>o' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org>n( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil>i' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org>i% Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org>@$ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum>t( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org>s" Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org>e& Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>o) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org>s' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>@" Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> * Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org>p* Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>l Q <queue@continuum.net>) Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>t  ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:16:44 +010080 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>+ Subject: osu/http_server, cookies & profilen4 Message-ID: <c5jkks$89k$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>  H I'm wanting to 'keep track' of individual users on a shopping site, and D personalise each page with their name, shopping basket to date, etc.  F I'm using a cookie to pass round an id, which works fine, but I can't G see any easy way to get the page personalised with the data the cookie rG points to. The preprocessor does symbols, logicals, and assorted other s> stuff, or a script can look up the data from the cookie value.  I I don't see any easy way to do both: look up the data and easily drop it 2 into (fairly) static pages.e  G I have the impression that OSU server can do that kind of thing - it's eI just not clear to me exactly how, and the documentation is a little thin n on examples.  7 Or is the preprocessor worth avoiding for performance ?   G Any suggestions, examples, experiences, etc would be useful - I have a F2 bad feeling I'm trying to reinvent the wheel here.  I Similarly, any recommendations on how to play nice with ie6, which seems yD to pretend to store my cookies (the page which sets them can verify G them) and then destroy them (the next page can't see them) - I suspect o this is P3P or something.@   Thanks,n Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:02:10 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>6 Subject: Re: OT - Outsourced customer service - Amazon9 Message-ID: <c5ir62$254bm$2@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de>    Dr. Dweeb wrote: > Dr. Dweeb wrote: >  >>Folks, >>H >>The Dweeb has purchased some books at Amazon.co.uk, and since I am VAT@ >>registered, I should not have to pay VAT on these professional
 >>volumes. >> >>$ SET VENT/ITEM=SPLEEN/ON  >>E >>The story thus far is that I have had three boilerplate cut & paste F >>emails back, each promising to get it right (one prior to shipping &D >>billing, one prior to billing, one after shipping) and without anyD >>noticable effect. Amazon owe me the VAT that they have incorrectly7 >>debited my VISA card, and the Dweeb is getting irate.  >>: >>So, to the following 3 people at amazon customer support >> >>Achint Kishore >>Saurabh Sehgal
 >>Sankhya Dey  >>D >>in whatever 3rd world country in which you happen to reside, a bigC >>rasberry to you.  Two of you have failed miserably, while the 3rdrD >>(you know who you are) has the unique opportunity to get it right. >> >>$ SET VENT/OFF >> >>Dr, Dweeb  >  >  > Success !u > 9 > My refund from amazon was credited to my account today.C >  > So all in all, >  > Order date - 29-Mar  > VISA debit - 2-Apr) > Visa credit - 14-Apr (backdated 7-Apr).r > I > Technically, it should have been backdated to 2-Apr as it was illegally : > levied, but I think I will call it quits on this aspect. > N > From this, I can logically assume that amazon.co.uk accepts that it is an EUK > retailer.  This has some logical consequences for its standard policies -s- > more on that later, after I hear from HMCE.  >   # I'm looking forward to seeing that.r   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:58:41 +0200n* From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>B Subject: Re: OT - VAT in EU & Outsourced customer service - Amazon9 Message-ID: <c5iqvh$254bm$1@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de>w   Dr. Dweeb wrote: > Dr. Dweeb wrote: >  >>Paul Sture wrote:t   <snip>  B >>>Correction. Each instance of "Inland Revenue" above should readE >>>"Customs & Excise". They are two separate bodies. The former dealsmE >>>with personal and company taxation, the latter with import duties,. >>>VAT, smuggling etc. >>$ >>Indeed - apologies for that error. >> >  > + > However reality seems to be catching up -h > b > http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/budget/budget_04/associated_documents/bud_bud04_odonnell_index.cfm >c  ! Yes, I had heard about the plans.g  M > A similar merger occurred in denmark several years ago, much to the chagrintI > and dismay of the C&E people who have a long and glorious past and high"F > reputation, as distinct from the upstarts from taxation whose publicG > reputation is similar to most man-eating carnivores and with a provenhI > behaviour pattern demonstrating a similar morality and respect for law.e >   5 Similar in the UK. Two completely different cultures.e  G  From some online source or other I read that UK beancounters are very  H sceptical about the merger, pointing to the merger of the Contributions G Agency with the IR in 1999. The CA think they are separate apparently, lF and doubt has been cast on whether their computer systems communicate  with the IR ones.s   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 05:48:31 -0700c# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>s Subject: RE: Postscriptr9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIKEGNDBAA.tom@kednos.com>h     -----Original Message-----3   From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com]u'   Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 12:55 PMo   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com!   Subject: Re: Postscript        Michael Unger wrote:E   > Agreed. But as far as I know Adobe's "distiller" uses compressionk   > (ZIP-like) for the contents.  C   There are 2 compressions used for PDF. First, the postscript code1   is convertedL   to tags, and secondly, GZIP is used. More importantly, the PDF writer also<   executes commands that are essentially NOOP for postscript   printers but addH   "richness" to PDF documents (such as table of contents, hotspots etc).  F   This richness is what is important because it can give PDF documents=   functionality that rivals BOOKREADER format *if done well*.   @   Also, where PDF can save a lot of space is with images. It can   downsample aC   600dpi image down to 72dpi for on-screen display for instance, asv
   well as userC   a more efficient encoding (converting uncompressed TIFF to a jpegt   format for instance).   J   > And it still doesn't explain why the PDF documents aren't available on   > the web.  H   In fairness, they are available for VMS operating system, and are/were   available for TCPIP services.r  L   I find the HTML rather useless because you cannot search in it, you cannotA   easily print it (for instance, a single HTML document may be 20u
   pages long, H   but you have no way of knowing on which page the paragraph you need is   located). With PDF you can.m  # Don't most browsers support ctrl-F?      ---v(   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004i   ---e& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004p   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:41:40 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> Subject: Re: Postscript 9 Message-ID: <c5jf2l$2dllu$1@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de>h   Tom Linden wrote:T >  >>   -----Original Message-----e6 >>   From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com]* >>   Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 12:55 PM >>   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com >>  Subject: Re: Postscriptn >> w >.   >>   Michael Unger wrote:n >>M >>   > And it still doesn't explain why the PDF documents aren't available onr >>   > the web.  >>  K >>   In fairness, they are available for VMS operating system, and are/were " >>   available for TCPIP services. >> sO >>   I find the HTML rather useless because you cannot search in it, you cannotAD >>   easily print it (for instance, a single HTML document may be 20 >>   pages long,K >>   but you have no way of knowing on which page the paragraph you need is   >>   located). With PDF you can. > % > Don't most browsers support ctrl-F?  > ? No, the problem is that a given manual is split into many HTML  3 documents. For example, the DEC C documentation in eF SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.CC$ALPHA_HELP_065] consists of 6 PostScript files, C and 6 text files, but the HTML equivalent is no less than 227 HTML   files, plus 47 .GIFs.r   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Apr 2004 07:11:38 GMT2 From: Thierry Dussuet <thierry@squeeeez.no-ip.com># Subject: Re: Question on processorsc/ Message-ID: <slrnc7pp1b.ti.thierry@MARS.Family>    Hello!  N On 2004-04-14, David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote: > Fred Kleinsorge wrote: >> r> >> There are no plans to port VMS to the x86-64 architecture.  > G > Ah, yes. Once again, VMS myopically relegates itself to the scrapheapuC > through its denial of the true defacto standard: x86. Hundreds ofaD > millions - if not billions - of 'em in the world, not a single one > running VMS natively.i  K But then when you see how x86 is just a POS trying to find new standards to N hide the crap below, thus giving even more crap, you come to wonder how it was$ possible that it had such a success.   Thierryi   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:11:42 -0700o# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>c! Subject: RE: Restore using backupr9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIIEGPDBAA.tom@kednos.com>s     -----Original Message-----6   From: Keith A. Lewis [mailto:lewis@spyder.mitre.org](   Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:20 AM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com #   Subject: Re: Restore using backup       2   "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes in article B   <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIGEFEDBAA.tom@kednos.com> dated Tue, 13 Apr    2004 07:45:23 -0700:1   >Create backup tapes using following qualifierse5   >backup/rewind/image/verify/record/ignore=interlock    ;   Followed by disk_name tape:saveset_name.ext/save, I hope.       >Had to replace a driveb   >mount/foreign disk@   >mount/foreign tapee   >backup/image tape disks   4   backup/image tape:saveset_name.ext/save disk_name:   backup/image tape: disk_name:nF worked just fine, and QMAN$MASTER was not on this, it is on a shadowed set.   E   Expect your QMAN$MASTER to be fried, if you lost the disk it was on H   (assuming the queue manager was running during the original backup).     2   --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org@   The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.      ---a(   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004o    ---f& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004o   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Apr 2004 06:32:48 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)F Subject: Stanfords slowaris/linux servers hacked ... should be on VMS!= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0404140532.4cdeece0@posting.google.com>e  : the security slip is showing for unix/linux once again ...  ) http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15316c   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Apr 2004 07:31:44 -0700- From: contracer11@uol.com.br (Shiva MahaDeva) # Subject: VAX/VMS-WNT integration...G= Message-ID: <ddf392ea.0404140631.6a8f778e@posting.google.com>   T I'd like issue the command "at" in a WNT system from VMS system...is there any way ?O I can issue Solaris commands from VMS using RSH, but could I use RSH with WNT ?m   Thanks in advance...   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.207 ************************