1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 15 Apr 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 208       Contents:2 "Pulling" a File From OpenVMS from M$ Visual Basic Re: Back in the saddle% Re: Backup command / Tape help needed H Re: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail??  Patch!P Re: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail??  Patch!  Patch!F Re: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail??Patch! Re: Connect Direct API Re: copy file to tape with vms Re: copy file to tape with vms Re: copy file to tape with vms Re: copy file to tape with vms Re: copy file to tape with vms$ CSWS_PHP 1.2 appears to be broken...( Re: CSWS_PHP 1.2 appears to be broken... Re: DCL Coding Standards Re: Funny statement ... 3 Re: How to call C function from Alpha assembly code & Re: MicroVAX 3800: erasing system disk& Re: osu/http_server, cookies & profile- Re: OT - Outsourced customer service - Amazon - Re: OT - Outsourced customer service - Amazon - Re: OT - Outsourced customer service - Amazon 9 Re: OT - VAT in EU & Outsourced customer service - Amazon  OT: Funny statement ...  Re: OT: Funny statement ...   Re: POP3 email timestamp problem  Re: POP3 email timestamp problem  Re: POP3 email timestamp problem Re: Question on processors Re: Question on processors Re: Question on processors Re: Question on processors Re: Question on processors Re: VAX/VMS-WNT integration... Re: VMS newbie  Xwindows TCPIP/DECnet forwarding Re: [ot] DNS Lookup Help Re: [ot] DNS Lookup Help Re: [ot] DNS Lookup Help  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 14 Apr 2004 12:28:39 -0700  From: jhcoxx@hotmail.com (James); Subject: "Pulling" a File From OpenVMS from M$ Visual Basic < Message-ID: <8bd54b81.0404141128.d96fa57@posting.google.com>  	 Hi, all -   F Looking for the most robust, lowest cost way of "pulling" a small fileA (some 30 - 40 numbers) once a minute from a OpenVMS box into a VB  program running on WinXP.   E Alternately, a programmatic "push" from a Fortran or C program on the ? OpenVMS box might be acceptable, but the "pull" is seen as more 
 desirable.  E As many suggestions as possible would be nice - thanks in advance for 
 your help!  	 James Cox    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:59:38 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>  Subject: Re: Back in the saddle 8 Message-ID: <j3up705chnvq4fvpue3rsem64ju32jfq33@4ax.com>  P On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:51:19 GMT, Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:   >  > ! >Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:  >>  h >> In article <8edb64a.0404130947.425276dd@posting.google.com>, mike-spam@yelof.com (Mike Foley) writes:E >> >It's been about 10 years since I managed VMS systems on a regular 
 >> >basis. >>   >> Must have been a VAX then...  > 0 >VMS was available on Alphas in 1994, I am sure.  P VMS was available on Alpha in 1992. By 1994 we were already shipping Alphaserver 2100s.   Check out the timelines onD http://research.microsoft.com/~gbell/Digital/timeline/dechistory.htm   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Apr 2004 07:11:40 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org. Subject: Re: Backup command / Tape help needed3 Message-ID: <jUKLwWoEanDs@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <ZNVec.31742$rg5.50363@attbi_s52>, glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> writes:! > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: I >> The reference to a "BOT" header is potentially misleading.  On classic D >> 9 track tape, there is a "BOT" marker which is a reflective stripH >> glued to the media.  That obviously can't be overwritten in software.F >> (nice VAX Magic war story "Dual Density mag tape" involved multipleE >> BOT markers).  What you're writing over would be the VOL1 and HDR1  >> labels appearing at BOT.  > B > I don't know the VMS stories.  There are some interesting OS/360@ > stories related to dual density tapes.  OS/360 will verify theC > label, backspace to before the label, and then rewrite the label.   = This particular story involved a tape that was written on one A drive at 800 bpi and was initialized and written by another drive ? at 1600 bpi.  They took the tape back to the original drive and B could read the original data at 800 bpi.  Took it to the new drive( and could read the new data at 1600 bpi.   *insert major head scratching*  C Turned out the tape had two BOT markers.  The one drive located the E BOT marker with a forward search.  The other drive fast forwarded and G located the marker with a reverse search.  So they each found different ; markers and started writing at different spots on the tape.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:24:56 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)Q Subject: Re: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail??  Patch! $ Message-ID: <c5ilfo$nph$1@online.de>  H In article <JC2fc.36679$ED1.34161@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>, Don Sykes <paladin@mydomain.com> writes:    E > The SMTP receiver has been changed to check to see if the recipient D > email address in the RCPT TO SMTP protocol command is deliverable.F > This solves the problem by not letting the SPAM for the unknown user# > onto the host in the first place.   E Presumably, it is smart enough to not just check for an account, but  B will also deem stuff to be deliverable if mail for this "user" is D forwarded to a valid account (MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER=FOO BLA from a  priviledged account).   I > Now, if only I had TCP/IP Services Alpha 5.4 installed, so I could try  H > it (of course that means upgrading VMS to at least 7.3 first). So one H > more question for the group. Is there one big download I can get that D > will take me from VMS 7.2 w/TCPIP 5.1 in a single step to VMS 7.3 K > (latest) w/ TCPIP 5.4 ? Or do I have to go thru a step by step increment?   G As far as I know, you can't download anything to upgrade VMS.  Even if  F you could, you'd probably have to put it on a Files-11 disk (CD, hard G disk) and do a normal upgrade.  Doing the TCPIP upgrade as part of the  G VMS upgrade (it's on the same distribution CD and you can select it as  H an item to be installed from the menu) is only a bit more time than the  VMS upgrade itself.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 03:55:21 GMT & From: Don Sykes <paladin@mydomain.com>Y Subject: Re: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail??  Patch!  Patch! > Message-ID: <JC2fc.36679$ED1.34161@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>   Rich Jordan wrote:F > I imagine most of you have received your patch notifications by now,H > but if not please take a look at:  DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP_ECO-V0504-151-4 at > the OpenVMS patch site, or at G > ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/layered_products/alpha/ for the D > kit and notes at the FTP site.  Seems to have that little additionG > that allows rejecting mail for nonexistent users, though I've not had  > a chance to try it yet.  > A > Of course this is only for TCPIP V5.4 on VMS V7.3 and later (on 	 > Alpha).  > 
 > Rich Jordan     : Thanks Rich. You're right! It's here! Here's the text froma ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/layered_products/alpha/DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP_ECO-V0504-151-4.txt   > --------------------------------------------------------------8 10: SMTP receiver doesn't check recipient deliverability> --------------------------------------------------------------   Problem:  > The SMTP receiver does not check to see if the recipient email@ address in the RCPT TO SMTP protocol command is deliverable (for? example that the user account exists on the system). This check @ is instead deferred to the processing of the mail message in the? SMTP queue by the SMTP symbiont process. By this time, the host C has taken responsibility for the message and, if there is a problem 7 delivering the message, must bounce the message itself.   @ This behavior is more problematic when the system receives SPAM.? SPAM arrives on the host for a non-existent user and is bounced B by your host's symbiont process to the email address in the SPAM's@ Return-Path: header.  The SPAM's Return-Path: header contains anB invalid email address, so the bounced SPAM is in turn bounced backC to your host's POSTMASTER account. The POSTMASTER account's mail is A forwarded to the SYSTEM account, which means that the SYSTEM user > must constantly separate these doubly bounced SPAMs from their valid email.  	 Solution:   C The SMTP receiver has been changed to check to see if the recipient B email address in the RCPT TO SMTP protocol command is deliverable.D This solves the problem by not letting the SPAM for the unknown user! onto the host in the first place.   A A configuration option now exists to turn this new feature on and ? off. The option is called Symbiont-Checks-Deliverability and is 3 entered in the SMTP.CONFIG SMTP configuration file.  	 B Setting this option to TRUE preserves the old behavior - where theA receiver does not check the deliverability of RCPT TO recipients, A deferring to the symbiont. Setting Symbiont-Checks-Deliverability A to FALSE turns on the new behavior, telling the receiver to check < the deliverability of RCPT TO recipients itself. To preserveC existing behavior, this option is set by default to TRUE for TCP/IP C Services Version 5.4. For future versions it will default to FALSE.     ; Maybe HP corporate isn't listening, but VMS engineering is!  Thanks to Karol Zielonko.   G Now, if only I had TCP/IP Services Alpha 5.4 installed, so I could try  F it (of course that means upgrading VMS to at least 7.3 first). So one F more question for the group. Is there one big download I can get that B will take me from VMS 7.2 w/TCPIP 5.1 in a single step to VMS 7.3 I (latest) w/ TCPIP 5.4 ? Or do I have to go thru a step by step increment?    --     Have VMS, Will Travel  Wire paladin, San Francisco    (paladinATalphaseDOTcom)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 00:32:20 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>O Subject: Re: Configuring TCPIP SMTP server to ignore undeliverable mail??Patch! ) Message-ID: <407CBEA3.5E26B219@istop.com>    Don Sykes wrote:E > The SMTP receiver has been changed to check to see if the recipient D > email address in the RCPT TO SMTP protocol command is deliverable.F > This solves the problem by not letting the SPAM for the unknown user# > onto the host in the first place.   M I wonder if the image TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER.EXE could be supplied for different  versions of TCPIP Services ?  L Couldn't they just relink it against TCPIP 5.3 and provide just that image ?M Similarly, couldn't they also compile it on VAX and also provide it for 5.3 ?   M Seems to me that the changes are not so dramatic in terms of operating system Y for this one image. (we're not talking about kernel changes, just one small application).    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:47:15 +0200 3 From: "Gorazd Kikelj" <gorazd.kikelj@nospam.hp.com>  Subject: Re: Connect Direct API * Message-ID: <407cfaa1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  	 Hi Nigel,   J you can use C:D scripts. It's a kind of a rude interface, but it's enabled you C that you can track the success/failure of each command you process.  (remotly or localy).  L And you can pass parameters to command scripts. Look at the Programing Guide
 for examples.   G API is much better if you are willing to use it. Ask a support forum at C Sterling Commerce Resource Center or Customer Support for examples.     Beset regards, Gorazd   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:28:01 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>' Subject: Re: copy file to tape with vms 6 Message-ID: <407CA1B1.2BE7E454@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>  
 Sun wrote: >  > Hello folks, >  > The short: > 8 > I need to copy a file to tape with certain parameters. >  > The long:  > G > I have a 9-track tape that I have dumped to a file. After editing the H > file, I need to copy it back onto another tape which will then be read' > and processed by one of our programs. G > The problem is that while I can dump and edit the file, I do not know G > how to create the tape with the same parameters as the original tape. F > The original is created outside of our firm. Also, I have no controlE > over the program that reads the tape either leaving me with editing G > and creating a new tape as my only option where I can inject a change G > into the system. Obviously, the issue here is first creating the tape H > and then making sure it is right so the program that reads it gets the > file as it expects.  > > > The label printed on the tape has the following information: > $ > 1600/9T/FB LRECL=00320 BLKSZ=32640 > PRODUCTION DATE: 04/02/04 SL > H > When in file format, I know the file consists of 320 byte records with > line feeds after each record.  > H > It may be in 160 chunks too. When I dump it with a utility provided byH > a vendor and want to put the file back together, I have to tie the 160> > byte lines together to get the original 320 byte lines back. > = > My tape drive has the following logical associated with it: * > "TAPE" = "$1$MKD400:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > 
 > Details:	 > OpenVMS  > Dec Alpha server 1200 $ > Tape Drive: Digital TSZ07 9-Track.   Part 2:   0 To get that back to tape in the original format:   $ INIT TAPE label ) $ MOUNT TAPE label/BLOCK=32640/RECORD=320  $ COPY filespec TAPE:[]filespec  $ DISM/NOUNLOAD TAPE  H This assumes that the records are in the correct format before you writeF the tape: 319 byte records plus a linefeed, total 320 bytes, viewed by% RMS as 320-byte fixed-length records.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:18:51 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>' Subject: Re: copy file to tape with vms 6 Message-ID: <407C9F8B.606ACF86@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>  
 Sun wrote: >  > Hello folks, >  > The short: > 8 > I need to copy a file to tape with certain parameters. >  > The long:  > G > I have a 9-track tape that I have dumped to a file. After editing the H > file, I need to copy it back onto another tape which will then be read' > and processed by one of our programs. G > The problem is that while I can dump and edit the file, I do not know G > how to create the tape with the same parameters as the original tape. F > The original is created outside of our firm. Also, I have no controlE > over the program that reads the tape either leaving me with editing G > and creating a new tape as my only option where I can inject a change G > into the system. Obviously, the issue here is first creating the tape H > and then making sure it is right so the program that reads it gets the > file as it expects.  > > > The label printed on the tape has the following information:  A A possible warning: the content my be EBCDIC instead of ASCII. Be  advised.  $ > 1600/9T/FB LRECL=00320 BLKSZ=32640 > PRODUCTION DATE: 04/02/04 SL  1 $ MOUNT $1$MKD400:/OVER=ID/BLOCK=32640/RECORD=320  $ COPY $1$MKD400:[]*.* []   H > When in file format, I know the file consists of 320 byte records with  C The linefeeds should be irrelevant. The file format is "FB" (Fixed, C blocked). It will be written to disk as Fixed length records of 320  bytes.     > line feeds after each record.   ; This good, because if you need to use text editor, you can:    $ SET FILE/ATTR=RFM=STMLF   E ..., with caveats. That means the real record length is 319 (plus the  <LF> terminator totals 320).  H > It may be in 160 chunks too. When I dump it with a utility provided byH > a vendor and want to put the file back together, I have to tie the 160> > byte lines together to get the original 320 byte lines back.  H That's bizarre. The Longest record length (LRECL) indicated on the label; is 320. So, that's how the o.s.'s file system will view it.   F You don't indicate what sort of "editing" is required, so guessing the next steps would be hazardous.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:53:53 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>' Subject: Re: copy file to tape with vms ) Message-ID: <407CA797.1CD725E9@istop.com>    "David J. Dachtera" wrote:2 > To get that back to tape in the original format: >  > $ INIT TAPE label + > $ MOUNT TAPE label/BLOCK=32640/RECORD=320 ! > $ COPY filespec TAPE:[]filespec  > $ DISM/NOUNLOAD TAPE  ? Shouldn't the INITIALIZE also have the /INTERCHANGE qualifier ? " Also, should MOUNT have /FOREIGN ?    J > This assumes that the records are in the correct format before you writeH > the tape: 319 byte records plus a linefeed, total 320 bytes, viewed by' > RMS as 320-byte fixed-length records.   L When you copy the file from tape to disk, if it is created as a fixed recordM size, you can use an editor such as TPU to edit it and each record will be on N its own line. However, when you save it it is likely that it will be convertedK to variable length records. You can then use convert/FDL to "copy" the file L into a fixed record size with RAT:NONE. This will remove the variable lengthN bytes and make the file back to how it was. And the raw data will be copied toL tape without any CR or LFs added betwene records (they are not needed if the) remote system understands record formats)    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:11:35 GMT 0 From: glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu>' Subject: Re: copy file to tape with vms - Message-ID: <r51fc.33995$rg5.58012@attbi_s52>   
 Sun wrote:   (snip)  G > I have a 9-track tape that I have dumped to a file. After editing the H > file, I need to copy it back onto another tape which will then be read' > and processed by one of our programs. G > The problem is that while I can dump and edit the file, I do not know G > how to create the tape with the same parameters as the original tape. / > The original is created outside of our firm.   (snip)  > > The label printed on the tape has the following information: > $ > 1600/9T/FB LRECL=00320 BLKSZ=32640 > PRODUCTION DATE: 04/02/04 SL > H > When in file format, I know the file consists of 320 byte records with > line feeds after each record.   7 When it is on the tape, the tape blocks are 32640 bytes 9 long, with 102 records each and no characters in between.   : When they are on disk, they either have line feeds, or the2 system supplies them when you print/edit the file.  7 DIR/FULL will tell you the disk formatting information.   9 Under unix, the dd command is used to write such files to 6 tape.  It will block/unblock, pad, and do ASCII/EBCDIC2 translation as appropriate.  (You didn't say if it should be ASCII or EBCDIC.)    -- glen    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Apr 2004 07:07:31 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org' Subject: Re: copy file to tape with vms 3 Message-ID: <LSJ9I622BRZV@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <ec063da7.0404130943.640546ed@posting.google.com>, yausername2@yahoo.com (Sun) writes:  > Hello folks, >  > The short: > 8 > I need to copy a file to tape with certain parameters. >  > The long:  > G > I have a 9-track tape that I have dumped to a file. After editing the H > file, I need to copy it back onto another tape which will then be read' > and processed by one of our programs.   B Key here is that you've editted the file.  The file format on disk> (fixed length records or variable length records) is critical.  G > The problem is that while I can dump and edit the file, I do not know G > how to create the tape with the same parameters as the original tape. F > The original is created outside of our firm. Also, I have no controlE > over the program that reads the tape either leaving me with editing G > and creating a new tape as my only option where I can inject a change G > into the system. Obviously, the issue here is first creating the tape H > and then making sure it is right so the program that reads it gets the > file as it expects.  > > > The label printed on the tape has the following information: > $ > 1600/9T/FB LRECL=00320 BLKSZ=32640 > PRODUCTION DATE: 04/02/04 SL > H > When in file format, I know the file consists of 320 byte records with > line feeds after each record.   F This sounds like stream-lf format on disk.  We'll need to verify that.  ! $ DIR /FULL <your-file-name-here>    Report back with the output.  H > It may be in 160 chunks too. When I dump it with a utility provided byH > a vendor and want to put the file back together, I have to tie the 160> > byte lines together to get the original 320 byte lines back.  , $ DUMP /RECORD=COUNT=4 <your-file-name-here>  B Report that back as well.  This will confirm whether we're dealingE with 160 byte or 320 byte records and whether the line feeds are part  of the file data or not.  B On the assumption that we're dealing with 320 byte records in someJ standard VMS file layout, the appropriate commands to create an unlabelled fixed block ASCII tape are:   4 $ MOUNT /FOREIGN $1$MKD400: /BLOCK=32640 /RECORD=3209 $ CONVERT <your-file-name-here> $1$MKD400: /FDL=SYS$INPUT  record format fixed size 320 ^Z $     Following this, you may wish to:    $ SET MAGTAPE /REWIND $1$MKD400:  $ DUMP $1$MKD400: /BLOCK=COUNT=3  C What you should see is 32640 byte blocks containing 102 records per  block.    C If you were to follow the other posters' suggestions and use $ COPY ? to populate the tape _AND_ if the file organization on disk has F variable length records then you would find that the /RECORD qualifierA on the mount would be ignored and you'd have one record per block  on tape.  B The $ CONVERT is there to force the fixed length semantics so that& the automatic blocking can take place.  A If the file format on disk has 320 byte fixed length records then D all is well and the other posters' suggestion to use $ COPY directly will work fine.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 01:22:32 GMT > From: Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com>- Subject: CSWS_PHP 1.2 appears to be broken... < Message-ID: <sn0fc.9003$_W1.1227@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>  6 I updated my system a few days ago (VMS7.3-1 + latest G update200,pcsi,rms,sys,f11xqp300) to CSWS_PHP V1.2.  Now a very simple   script does not work...    add html/php header here    if (isset($flag))        { echo "Flag = $flag";           echo "IN1  = $in1";	         }     else D        {echo "<form method=post> <input type=text name=in1 size=20>"5         echo "<input type=hidden name=flag value=1>"; 0         echo "<input type=Submit value=Submit>";	         }  add html/php end here   B When you open the form, you should get a text box. Fill it in and I submit. Because the flag is now set, it should display the value entered  G in the text box.  This is a very simple example.  My T4 demo site uses  I this and is now broken.  see http://www.firstdbasource.com/t4/t4chart.php   < ----------------------------------- ----------- -----------  --------------------I PRODUCT                             KIT TYPE    OPERATION   DATE AND TIME < ----------------------------------- ----------- -----------  --------------------H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_DRIVER V2.0       Patch       Install     13-APR-2004  13:34:38H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_F11X V3.0         Patch       Install     13-APR-2004  13:34:38H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_RMS V5.0          Patch       Install     13-APR-2004  13:34:38H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_SYS V5.0          Patch       Install     13-APR-2004  13:34:38H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_UPDATE V2.0       Patch       Install     13-APR-2004  12:49:02H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_PCSI V2.0         Patch       Install     13-APR-2004  12:41:06H CPQ AXPVMS CSWS_PHP V1.2            Full LP     Install     07-APR-2004  20:17:35H CPQ AXPVMS CSWS_PHP V1.1            Full LP     Remove      07-APR-2004  20:17:35H CPQ AXPVMS CSWS_PHP11_UPDATE V1.0   Patch       Remove      07-APR-2004  20:17:35H HP AXPVMS MYSQL X4.1-1A             Full LP     Install     05-APR-2004  20:01:58H CPQ AXPVMS SSL V1.1-A               Full LP     Install     05-APR-2004  19:59:04H JFP AXPVMS ZLIB V1.1-4              Full LP     Install     05-APR-2004  19:40:56H DEC AXPVMS TCPIP_ECO V5.3-182       Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_ACRTL V1.0        Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_BACKUP V1.0       Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_CLUSTER V1.0      Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_CPU2208 V1.0      Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_DCL V3.0          Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_F11X V1.0         Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_FIBRE_SCSI V3.0   Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_LAN V4.0          Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_PTHREAD V1.0      Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_QMAN V1.0         Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_RMS V2.0          Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_RPC V1.0          Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_SYS V3.0          Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_TDF V1.0          Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H DEC AXPVMS VMS731_XFC V1.0          Patch       Install     06-JUN-2003  22:57:20H CPQ AXPVMS CSWS_PHP11_UPDATE V1.0   Patch       Install     02-JUN-2003  22:42:06H CPQ AXPVMS CSWS_PHP V1.1            Full LP     Install     02-JUN-2003  22:41:32H CPQ AXPVMS CSWS_PERL V1.1           Full LP     Install     02-JUN-2003  22:39:35H CPQ AXPVMS CSWS V1.3                Full LP     Install     02-JUN-2003  21:06:04H CPQ AXPVMS PERL V5.6-1              Full LP     Install     02-JUN-2003  20:59:16H CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V1.0-2              Full LP     Install     01-JUN-2003  10:48:48H DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3-1           Platform    Install     01-JUN-2003  10:48:48H DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.3-18            Full LP     Install     01-JUN-2003  10:48:48H DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-1               Oper System Install     01-JUN-2003  10:48:48< ----------------------------------- ----------- -----------  --------------------   Regards,   Michael Austin   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 01:55:06 GMT + From: Ken Robinson <sendspamhere@rbnsn.com> 1 Subject: Re: CSWS_PHP 1.2 appears to be broken... @ Message-ID: <f89bbeb74ec7943eb70ad1bada84650c@news.teranews.com>  B Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote in 4 news:sn0fc.9003$_W1.1227@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com:  8 > I updated my system a few days ago (VMS7.3-1 + latest I > update200,pcsi,rms,sys,f11xqp300) to CSWS_PHP V1.2.  Now a very simple   > script does not work...  >  > add html/php header here >    if (isset($flag)) >        { echo "Flag = $flag";  >          echo "IN1  = $in1"; >         } 	 >    else F >        {echo "<form method=post> <input type=text name=in1 size=20>"7 >         echo "<input type=hidden name=flag value=1>"; 2 >         echo "<input type=Submit value=Submit>"; >         }  > add html/php end here  > D > When you open the form, you should get a text box. Fill it in and K > submit. Because the flag is now set, it should display the value entered  I > in the text box.  This is a very simple example.  My T4 demo site uses  K > this and is now broken.  see http://www.firstdbasource.com/t4/t4chart.php   L This is happening because when PHP went to version 4.2.0 (csws php v1.1 was C based on PHP 4.1.1 and csws php v1.2 is based on 4.3.2) the option  D 'register_globals' went from a default value of 'on' to 'off'.  See E <http://www.php.net/manual/en/security.registerglobals.php> for more  # information about register_globals.   1 To get the old way back, do one of the following: & 1) Turn register_globals on in php.ini@ 2) Use the following php code at the beginning of your programs:   if (!empty($_GET)) { extract($_GET); $ } else if (!empty($HTTP_GET_VARS)) { extract($HTTP_GET_VARS); }    if (!empty($_POST)) {  extract($_POST);% } else if (!empty($HTTP_POST_VARS)) {  extract($HTTP_POST_VARS);  }   K 3)Use one of the superglobal arrays $_GET, $_POST, or $_REQUEST to get the  E values you need. In your case you would use $_POST['flag'] and $_POST  ['in1'].   Ken RobinsonE OpenVMS System Manager and part time Web Designer using PHP/MySQL/CSS " (for my latest paying project see J <http://restaurantserenade.kis-hosting.com/> written all in PHP and MySQL   with the layout defined via CSS) kenrbnsn (at) rbnsn (dot) com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:42:59 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>! Subject: Re: DCL Coding Standards 6 Message-ID: <407C9723.51B995C4@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   "Alan E. Feldman" wrote: >  > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message news:<407AC6FA.1BC5000A@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>... > > "Alan E. Feldman" wrote: > > >  > > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message news:<4075F5AE.3321BE00@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>... > > > > [snip]M > > > > O.k. it isn't - and water is dry, air is wet, solids flow and liquids $ > > > > don't, ... See? I CAN learn! > > > 5 > > > Did you know that everything you know is wrong?  > > C > > According to you, yes. According to my everyday experience, no.  > G > OK. One more thing. Just think about it: Did you know that everything E > you know is wrong? If you knew that, then you'd be wrong about that E > too, in which case you'd be right about something else, which lends @ > further credence to the fact that you were wrong to think that > everything you know is wrong.  > [snip]   A minute passed...   A minute passed...   A minute passed, and then...   A minute passed...  - He looked at his watch. it was a minute past.    ...Monty Python    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:12:29 -0500 5 From: "ssj152 \(stuart\)" <ssj152 AT charter DOT net>   Subject: Re: Funny statement ...0 Message-ID: <107osv1nc7plff8@corp.supernews.com>  9 "Mikko Putkonen" <miputkon@paju.oulu.fi> wrote in message $ news:c5hou7$bjt$1@ousrvr3.oulu.fi... > Hello, everyone  > I > This is somewhat off-topic and could fuel some of these SUN/Solaris vs. E > this'n' that discussions over here, but I still think the local VMS 3 > "bigots" =) might find the following statement in G > http://www.electricnews.net/ffocus.html?code=9407565 (a Linux-related ' > article) at least a little bit funny:  > & >     ... Unix, an ultra-sturdy OS ... > I > I'm mainly _a Unix and/or (GNU/)Linux user myself_, and don't have much G > experience in (Open)VMS (or any other similar systems) at the moment. I > I, however, somehow believe that IF there is an "ultra-sturdy" OS some- " > where, it perhaps isn't Unix. =) >  > & > -Mikko Putkonen, just another lurker > <miputkon@paju.oulu.fi>  >  >  >   H I read the article and it is a little bit funny. I use several OS's, andI prefer OpenVMS, the only OS I've used that actually is "sturdy". I worked I with VAX systems in banks (remittance lock-box) for years and some of the J systems had uptimes of over a year - while in daily use. I think this is aH pretty good indication of "sturdiness". Please - no flames... I spent 25K years as a systems programmer (VMS and later Windows NT) and have earned my ' opinions; you are all welcome to yours.   I I like Linux and use it myself. I have proliant servers running it at the I present and wish that I felt like using them for everyting, ie. no M$oft, H but that isn't reasonable. My daughter uses M$oft stuff at school and atK home to do her homework. I use M$oft to exchange files / data with friends. E I use what makes sense for the job at hand. I do NOT like Microsoft's  marketing practices.  J I (along with a LOT of other folks) REALLY wish that HP would port OpenVMSJ to Intel-32 hardware. Legend has it that DEC actually started briefly downH this path before Ken Olsen (long time president / CEO of DEC) killed it.  H I am fortunate that I have both Alpha and VAX hardware to run OpenVMS onK (hobby licenses), where most folks aren't so lucky. I am thinking of trying?L a simulator on one of my PC's so that I can make a comparison. That might be8 a very interesting project for a retired old programmer.   Stuart Johnson // ssj152 AT charter DOT net   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Apr 2004 18:44:50 -0700: From: kannan.s.viswanathan@oracle.com (Kannan Viswanathan)< Subject: Re: How to call C function from Alpha assembly code< Message-ID: <595d0879.0404141744.19e4e20@posting.google.com>  Q Thanks to everyone for the pointers. We could get this successfully implemented. b   Thanks,e Kannan.X  ` Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com> wrote in message news:<M-ydnTCW2tnORubd4p2dnA@adelphia.com>... > Kannan Viswanathan wrote:o >  > >Hi, r > >iH > >We have a requirement to write an  Alpha assembly code for VMS , withD > >in which it has make a call to to an external "C" funtion. I willG > >greatly appreciate , if you can provide some pointers (or examples )O > >about how to do this. > >  > I think this will help a lot:  >  > Tru64 Alpha:j > http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpcom/reflect/xptcall/src/md/unix/xptcinvoke_asm_osf1_alpha.s#72 >  > OpenVMS Alpha:m > http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpcom/reflect/xptcall/src/md/unix/xptcinvoke_asm_openvms_alpha.s#92u >  > Colin.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:04:53 +0300-- From: "Kari Keronen" <kari.keronen@digita.fi>-/ Subject: Re: MicroVAX 3800: erasing system disk"9 Message-ID: <377fc.1368$qM1.1060@reader1.news.jippii.net>-  1 "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> kirjoitti 0 viestiss:462dneCpytDCIOvdRVn-hQ@adelphia.com... > Bob Koehler wrote:6 > > In article <4074C4FE.BF84DA0A@istop.com>, JF Mezei# <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes:u > > F > >>But to issue the SET HOST command, don't you need VMS to be up and runninghH > >>with the correct driver loaded to access the DSSI controller ? Won't thatJ > >>crash VMS if you tell the drive used as system drive to erase itself ? (orhH > >>would VMS go into mount verification if it discobers that its system drive is > >>now offline ?) > >k > >iG > >    I don't recall which model the original poster was using, but on4H > >    most VAXen after MV II you can set host/dup/dssi from the console > >    prompt with no OS.y >eF Yes, I found a manual.  >>>set host/dup/dssi 0 drvtst   did the trick.  I > A different ritual is needed for the systems that use KFQSAs instead of. > embedded DSSI. >eI > As I remember it, a switch setting needed to be changed on the KFQSA to  > put it in maintenance mode.b > H > The syntax for getting to the maintenance program was a bit different.  * set host/dup/uqssp/disk <contoller number>   -Kari- >h > -Johnp > wb8tyw@qsl.network > Personal Opinion Only  >p   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:43:23 GMTiL From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")/ Subject: Re: osu/http_server, cookies & profiles6 Message-ID: <00A305BF.AF2947E3@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  g In article <c5jkks$89k$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes:_I >I'm wanting to 'keep track' of individual users on a shopping site, and sE >personalise each page with their name, shopping basket to date, etc.l >iG >I'm using a cookie to pass round an id, which works fine, but I can't lH >see any easy way to get the page personalised with the data the cookie H >points to. The preprocessor does symbols, logicals, and assorted other ? >stuff, or a script can look up the data from the cookie value.h >OJ >I don't see any easy way to do both: look up the data and easily drop it  >into (fairly) static pages. >SH >I have the impression that OSU server can do that kind of thing - it's J >just not clear to me exactly how, and the documentation is a little thin 
 >on examples.   K The server itself doesn't do this for you, and I think you'll be challengedaE trying to make the OSU preprocessor do it.  (I can think of ways to  tD make it happen with the WASD or Apache preprocessors, which support N "exec" and "include virtual" commands that let you include the output of other< programs into your document, but OSU doesn't let you do it.)   >nH >Any suggestions, examples, experiences, etc would be useful - I have a 3 >bad feeling I'm trying to reinvent the wheel here.    Yup.  N What you're trying to do is to have a mostly-static web page with some content plugged in dynamically.s  F That's pretty much the definition of a templating language or package.  O That's what PHP was invented for, and Dave Jones did the first PHP port to VMS, L as far as I know; it works with OSU. (It sounds like OSU is your platform ofI choice.)  [Same idea for ASP (NT and with a Unix port), Cold Fusion (.CFM7 pages), Zope,  etcetera.]p  O There are also Perl packages, like HTML::Mason, among others.  (I don't know if ? anybody's using HTML::Mason on VMS.)  PERL works fine with OSU.n  N Another way to handle it is to do tag substitution programmatically; I do thisN a lot in Perl CGIs, using a nice little routine I got from the vmsperl mailing: list.  That's sort of halfway between full-bore templating. package and purely procedural page generation.  M If the page is a reasonably straightforward design, you can generate it using/ CGI.PM from Perl.   J [I'm obliged by law here to plug my webservers on VMS book, but in fact itK doesn't go into any more detail on your specific problem than I just did intL this post.  It _does_ document the OSU preprocessor well enough that you can" tell it won't solve your problem.]   > J >Similarly, any recommendations on how to play nice with ie6, which seems E >to pretend to store my cookies (the page which sets them can verify  H >them) and then destroy them (the next page can't see them) - I suspect  >this is P3P or something.   No clues there, sorry.   -- Alann --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025MO ===============================================================================e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:06:50 +02006  From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>6 Subject: Re: OT - Outsourced customer service - Amazon- Message-ID: <c5ikdr$1k8o$1@news.cybercity.dk>    Nigel Barker wrote:aF > On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:53:02 +0200, "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com> wrote: >r	 >> Folks,: >>E >> The Dweeb has purchased some books at Amazon.co.uk, and since I amnE >> VAT registered, I should not have to pay VAT on these professionall >> volumes.  >lD > Isn't the way that it works that you pay the VAT & then reclaim itF > when you submit your VAT return? In any case the VAT on books in theF > UK is 0% so I assume that you are outside the UK, in fact I just sawC > the .dk in your header. What is the VAT rate on books in Denmark?e >_G > What annoys me is that when I order from amazon.co.uk for delivery in-C > the UK I pay 0% VAT. If I order for delivery in France then I pay'F > 5.5% TVA. The normal rule is that you pay sales tax where the onlineE > retailer is based so if I order from amazon.com I also pay no saleskC > tax but delivery charges will be higher. I have ordered from manycF > other retailers in the UK for delivery in France & only ever pay VATB > at UK rate (normally 19.5 vs 20.5 so no big deal) it's only withE > books that it grates a bit. I guess it's some special multinationalmA > deal that Amazon UK have struck with the EU but it's a bit odd.e   SeerV http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/browse/-/help/502576/026-8111183-1812412K which seems to suggest that for a reason I do not know, Amazon collects VATnL for EVERY EU member state.  I have never seen or heard of this before, but I" have not had time to look into it.  G I observe that they have in fact levied VAT at the local 25% rate on my,* books, so reality and policy conform here.  
 Dr. Dweeb.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:05:45 +0200S  From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>6 Subject: Re: OT - Outsourced customer service - Amazon- Message-ID: <c5ins9$1nmi$1@news.cybercity.dk>n   Dr. Dweeb wrote: > Folks, >cH > The Dweeb has purchased some books at Amazon.co.uk, and since I am VAT@ > registered, I should not have to pay VAT on these professional
 > volumes. >A > $ SET VENT/ITEM=SPLEEN/ONt >hE > The story thus far is that I have had three boilerplate cut & pastehF > emails back, each promising to get it right (one prior to shipping &D > billing, one prior to billing, one after shipping) and without anyD > noticable effect. Amazon owe me the VAT that they have incorrectly7 > debited my VISA card, and the Dweeb is getting irate.  >i: > So, to the following 3 people at amazon customer support >l > Achint Kishore > Saurabh Sehgal
 > Sankhya Deye >nD > in whatever 3rd world country in which you happen to reside, a bigC > rasberry to you.  Two of you have failed miserably, while the 3rd D > (you know who you are) has the unique opportunity to get it right. >l > $ SET VENT/OFF >b > Dr, Dweebe  	 Success !i  7 My refund from amazon was credited to my account today.    So all in all,   Order date - 29-Mar5 VISA debit - 2-Apr' Visa credit - 14-Apr (backdated 7-Apr).a  G Technically, it should have been backdated to 2-Apr as it was illegallyh8 levied, but I think I will call it quits on this aspect.  L From this, I can logically assume that amazon.co.uk accepts that it is an EUI retailer.  This has some logical consequences for its standard policies - + more on that later, after I hear from HMCE.l  	 Dr. Dweeb    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 03:33:12 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>6 Subject: Re: OT - Outsourced customer service - Amazon( Message-ID: <407CE8FB.82ADD9B@istop.com>   "Dr. Dweeb" wrote:I > Technically, it should have been backdated to 2-Apr as it was illegallys: > levied, but I think I will call it quits on this aspect.  I Beware. On foreign currency transactions, you can end up making or losingSJ money when the refund isn't done on the same day as the transaction due to currency exchange fluctuations.X   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:20:51 +0200t  From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>B Subject: Re: OT - VAT in EU & Outsourced customer service - Amazon- Message-ID: <c5il8b$1l6i$1@news.cybercity.dk>    Dr. Dweeb wrote: > Paul Sture wrote:  >> Dr. Dweeb wrote:o >>> JF Mezei wrote:  >>>o >>>> "Dr. Dweeb" wrote:i >>>>D >>>>> Since a UK company cannot levy TVA on sales executed in the UKA >>>>> (only VAT), am I to understand that the TVA is being leviedz; >>>>> locally at point of entry by the French authorities ?t >>>>A >>>> In Canada, this is how it works generally. If you have stuff D >>>> shipped from the USA, there is no customs anymore (free trade),E >>>> but the courier/postal system will knock at your door to collectpD >>>> the GST (VAT) of the imported gizmo. Now, due to the volumes ofC >>>> shipments, the post office for instance, doesn't really botherc3 >>>> with anything less than $20 of declared value.f >>>>? >>>> However, some US mail order outfits actually have canadianmG >>>> registrations and will charge you GST, and indicate on the waybilleG >>>> that the GST has already been collected, so the package then flowspH >>>> through customs without any delay of processing. The US outfit thenD >>>> sends the collected taxes to the canadian government at regular >>>> intervals.  >>>>G >>>> In the EU however, because of the number of countries involved, it H >>>> wouldn't make sense to expect a UK outfit to have VAT accounts with >>>> every country ini< >>>> the EU and then collect taxes specific to each country. >>>> >>>n >>>c( >>> That is why they changed the rules ! >>>s >>> > >>>> Also, if A collects 4 euros in VAT and gives it to the UK? >>>> government, when B makes its tax declaration to the frenchhC >>>> government and needs to have that 4 euros refunded, the french @ >>>> government can't really refund that amount because it neverE >>>> actually collected it and has no way to get the UK government toa >>>> transfer it.s >>>> >>>s >>>hG >>> You need to apply to the UK Inland Revenue.  This is how it used tog? >>> work for all transactions, and still does for some types of F >>> transactions.  In practice it was very difficult to get money back/ >>> from some jurisdictions - trust me, I know.N >>>:D >>> I have recently received GBP back from the UK Inland Revenue for >>> example. >>>hF >>> An example of such a transaction we would be training courses.  AnG >>> HP training course delivered in UK by HP UK and charged to a FrenchfG >>> customer would include UK VAT.  The French customer would then makeeH >>> a claim to the Inland Revenue for a refund - it takes 4-6 months for >>> processing.t >>>  >>B >> Correction. Each instance of "Inland Revenue" above should readE >> "Customs & Excise". They are two separate bodies. The former dealstE >> with personal and company taxation, the latter with import duties,  >> VAT, smuggling etc. >B$ > Indeed - apologies for that error. >A  ) However reality seems to be catching up -a  ` http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/budget/budget_04/associated_documents/bud_bud04_odonnell_index.cfm  K A similar merger occurred in denmark several years ago, much to the chagrin G and dismay of the C&E people who have a long and glorious past and highnD reputation, as distinct from the upstarts from taxation whose publicE reputation is similar to most man-eating carnivores and with a proven G behaviour pattern demonstrating a similar morality and respect for law.   	 Dr. Dweebc >> >>>tF >>>> So it makes sense that sales across the border would be VAT free,B >>>> and that the destination's VAT would then be collected at the$ >>>> border by the shipping company. >>>r >>> E >>> Yes.  However if it comes via a courier, they often charge an armeE >>> and leg for doing the VAT paperwork.  One needs to check with thew >>> courier service on this. >>>s
 >>> Dr. Dweebu   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:17:43 +0000 (UTC)k, From: Mikko Putkonen <miputkon@paju.oulu.fi>  Subject: OT: Funny statement ...* Message-ID: <c5hou7$bjt$1@ousrvr3.oulu.fi>   Hello, everyonec  H This is somewhat off-topic and could fuel some of these SUN/Solaris vs. D this'n' that discussions over here, but I still think the local VMS 2 "bigots" =) might find the following statement in E http://www.electricnews.net/ffocus.html?code=9407565 (a Linux-related % article) at least a little bit funny:a  $     ... Unix, an ultra-sturdy OS ...  G I'm mainly _a Unix and/or (GNU/)Linux user myself_, and don't have muchnE experience in (Open)VMS (or any other similar systems) at the moment.3G I, however, somehow believe that IF there is an "ultra-sturdy" OS some-=  where, it perhaps isn't Unix. =)    $ -Mikko Putkonen, just another lurker <miputkon@paju.oulu.fi>i           t   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:32:17 +0000 (UTC)x, From: Mikko Putkonen <miputkon@paju.oulu.fi>$ Subject: Re: OT: Funny statement ...* Message-ID: <c5hta1$d3c$1@ousrvr3.oulu.fi>  - Mikko Putkonen <miputkon@paju.oulu.fi> wrote:u  I > I, however, somehow believe that IF there is an "ultra-sturdy" OS some-l" > where, it perhaps isn't Unix. =)  G Not that this is too important... but to clarify things: with Unix I of E course didn't just refer to "pure", proprietary Unices out there, butgH included all the ... free, Unix-like systems as well (Linux, *BSD, what- ever).  s -Mikko Putkonenb   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:39:23 -0400o* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>) Subject: Re: POP3 email timestamp probleme( Message-ID: <407C6C02.6709868@istop.com>   Rich Jordan wrote:C > We restarted the POP server again (a faint hope that it reads the.E > differential on startup), but we're still getting the same problem./G > Mail time on the Alpha from a terminal is correct, but once sent to a:! > PC, its shown as 2 hours early.e  M POP server doesn't have to deal with timezone differential. It just spits outAN messages where the date is part of the content of the message. If you use MAILK to look at a message, you'll see the Date: line in the RFC822 header and itON should contain a description of the time (either GMT, a time offset to GMT, or a known time zone.)T  N Normally, the time would be added by the mail client that created the message.M However, some SMTP servers will add a date of the PC client,s date is missinge or invalid.   J What you would need to do is use VMSmail to send an email to some externalL system, and on that external system, look at the full headers to see how the VMS system encoded the date.  K Then, you can do the reverse, send an email from an external system to yourtN VMSmail mailbox and from VMSmail , look at the RFC headers to see how the date was encoded.  L Note that when you look at VMSmail headers (as opposed to the RFC headers inJ the VMSmail contents), the date is the date received on that node, not the date of the message)  L When the POP server takes a "pure" VMS mail message without RFC headers, theI POP server will fake RFC headers, at whcih point it will take the date ofrC message as source, at which point the time offset may be important.:   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:45:20 -0500c( From: Rich Jordan <duodec@speakeasy.net>) Subject: Re: POP3 email timestamp problemt2 Message-ID: <MpidnVwi8L0GOuHd3cwC-g@speakeasy.net>   JF Mezei wrote:f > Rich Jordan wrote: > C >>We restarted the POP server again (a faint hope that it reads thenE >>differential on startup), but we're still getting the same problem. G >>Mail time on the Alpha from a terminal is correct, but once sent to a ! >>PC, its shown as 2 hours early.e >  > O > POP server doesn't have to deal with timezone differential. It just spits outeP > messages where the date is part of the content of the message. If you use MAILM > to look at a message, you'll see the Date: line in the RFC822 header and ittP > should contain a description of the time (either GMT, a time offset to GMT, or > a known time zone.)r > P > Normally, the time would be added by the mail client that created the message.O > However, some SMTP servers will add a date of the PC client,s date is missing 
 > or invalid.f > L > What you would need to do is use VMSmail to send an email to some externalN > system, and on that external system, look at the full headers to see how the > VMS system encoded the date. > M > Then, you can do the reverse, send an email from an external system to your P > VMSmail mailbox and from VMSmail , look at the RFC headers to see how the date > was encoded. > N > Note that when you look at VMSmail headers (as opposed to the RFC headers inL > the VMSmail contents), the date is the date received on that node, not the > date of the message) > N > When the POP server takes a "pure" VMS mail message without RFC headers, theK > POP server will fake RFC headers, at whcih point it will take the date oftE > message as source, at which point the time offset may be important.   I I wasn't sure if the POP server did translate local to GMT.  There are a  C number of different peecees running a number of different outhouse mH versions, all giving the same results (2 hours off); the time setups on B the peecees have been verified.  I'm going to try a Eudora client  tomorrow just to be different.    @ We sent smtp mail from the Alpha to our local Domino server and G earthlink webmail.  Time displayed for the received email was correct. tF Sent email from the Domino server (and from Earthlink webmail) to the F Alpha; time displayed in VMSmail for both messages was correct.  Sent F some more, used one of the peecees to POP the mail into outlook, time I was off 2 hours.  I did not examine the headers (didn't think of it, and c# ran out of time) but will tomorrow.t  & Thanks for taking the time to respond.   Rich   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 00:28:24 -0400i* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>) Subject: Re: POP3 email timestamp probleme) Message-ID: <407CBDB7.638BCF21@istop.com>    Rich Jordan wrote:A > We sent smtp mail from the Alpha to our local Domino server and H > earthlink webmail.  Time displayed for the received email was correct.  M Displayed time is really a computed value by the Email client that parses thetJ RFC header and takes the Date/time in the Date: value, adjusts it with theN time offset in the Date: header, and then adjusts it to the time offset of the client itself.  G A correct displayed time could be a coincidence of wrong Date in headere* combined with wrong GMT offset in the PC !  G > Sent email from the Domino server (and from Earthlink webmail) to theaA > Alpha; time displayed in VMSmail for both messages was correct.d  I VMSmail time is irrelevant since it is set by VMSmail irrespectice of theEV Date: field in the RFC header. It is time when VMSmail actually processes the message.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:04:04 +0200R, From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl># Subject: Re: Question on processorsb9 Message-ID: <c5juid$2fsb9$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>w  A "Thierry Dussuet" <thierry@squeeeez.no-ip.com> schreef in berichtl) news:slrnc7pp1b.ti.thierry@MARS.Family...  > Hello! > I > On 2004-04-14, David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>t wrote: > > Fred Kleinsorge wrote: > >>? > >> There are no plans to port VMS to the x86-64 architecture.  > >iI > > Ah, yes. Once again, VMS myopically relegates itself to the scrapheaptE > > through its denial of the true defacto standard: x86. Hundreds ofwF > > millions - if not billions - of 'em in the world, not a single one > > running VMS natively.- >-J > But then when you see how x86 is just a POS trying to find new standards toL > hide the crap below, thus giving even more crap, you come to wonder how it wasb& > possible that it had such a success. >2	 > Thierry3  K Pricing. Second hand 5 year old VAXen and Alpha's are nearly the same pricep as a new PC.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:50:24 -0700o+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>s# Subject: Re: Question on processorsa' Message-ID: <407DA410.5070807@MMaz.com>    Fred Kleinsorge wrote:  I >There are no plans to port VMS to the x86-64 architecture.  OpenVMS willpM >continue to work on VAX, Alpha and Itanium architectures.  Both HP and IntelbL >believe that x86-64 is a "bridge" for existing IA32 users to get to 64-bits >gE A bridge like many in downtown Portland that go nowhere?  Even IF it  D where a better processor, better doesn't matter in mass marketing.  H History has shown that there have been numerous prior examples with VHS I vs Beta, DOS vs CPM, Windows vs VMS where better lost....  I doubt Intel -H will never admit it as long as HP is holding the bag, but they probably E know that Itanium is dead, heck, after all these years, it never had -H much more than a flutter, so even imply that it was alive is being very  generous...V     Barry    --    > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                        S   ------------------------------  ( Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:53 +0100 (BST)9 From: duncan@macdonald.compulink.co.uk (Duncan Macdonald)A# Subject: Re: Question on processors_A Message-ID: <memo.20040413235315.3852A@macdonald.compulink.co.uk>P  3 In article <LxSec.2960$dI1.1969@news.cpqcorp.net>,  8 my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com (Fred Kleinsorge) wrote:  J > There are no plans to port VMS to the x86-64 architecture.  OpenVMS willN > continue to work on VAX, Alpha and Itanium architectures.  Both HP and IntelN > believe that x86-64 is a "bridge" for existing IA32 users to get to 64-bits,K > but Itanium has the better roadmap for high performance 64-bit commercialZ > and scientific computing.L   >  > K In the current issue (Apr 2004) of Linux Format there is a benchmark of an  9 Itanium system and also a benchmark of an Opteron system.T" The Itanium system cost (UKP) 6249" The Opteron system cost (UKP) 2299  N The Opteron system beat the Itanium system for performance hands down for all M the compute related tests (and came very close on the hard disk test despite  ' using IDE disks instead of SCSI disks).     Opteron       Itanium       TestA 6.07          2.6           CPU   (both CPUs in each system used)ND 3             1.31          CPU   (only one CPU used in each system); 2.17          1.47          RAM   (database held in memory)V4 0.46          0.5           HD    (database on disk)  7 2.93          1.34          Overall LXFBench 2004 score   K The Intel C++ Compiler v8 was used for the Itanium as this produces better  N results than GCC but even this was not enough to make the Itanium competitive.    3 Both systems were 1U rack mount systems with 2 CPUs0" Itanium    Boston SuperServer 6113  Opteron    Systemax Mission 3602  6 CPUs used Itanium 1.4GHz (1.5MB L3 cache), Opteron 248  P Based on these results, it seems unlikely that the Itanium will catch up to the L Opteron any time soon. (Especially if, as seems likely, Intel has to divert H some of its engineering resources to getting an x86-64 chip out that is 7 competitive with the Opteron in performance and price.)E   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:00:37 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net># Subject: Re: Question on processorsl6 Message-ID: <407C9B45.4165E21A@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Fred Kleinsorge wrote: > = > There are no plans to port VMS to the x86-64 architecture. 1  E Ah, yes. Once again, VMS myopically relegates itself to the scrapheapCA through its denial of the true defacto standard: x86. Hundreds of:B millions - if not billions - of 'em in the world, not a single one running VMS natively.   $ Truly: these people are VISIONARIES!   > OpenVMS willN > continue to work on VAX, Alpha and Itanium architectures.  Both HP and IntelN > believe that x86-64 is a "bridge" for existing IA32 users to get to 64-bits,  6 Ah yes, the typical response: denial. How predictable.  K > but Itanium has the better roadmap for high performance 64-bit commercialm > and scientific computing.r   <future>G ...they said all the way to final bankruptcy auction where Bill Gates &4H Co., having snapped up AMD, paid a string beads and two bubble gum cardsE for the ashes of hp, including the carcass of the once great VMS, nowr- nothing more than the domain of the military.   G Naturally, their first order of business will be to do the x86-64 port,WG then finish Emerald and bring the last IA32 hold outs into the world oftE secure computing, allowing a swift and easy migration to 64-bits witha4 only a CPU swap and a rebuild on the new 64-bit o.s.  8 Too bad hp never thought of that before it went under...	 </future>s   -- " David J. Dachterai dba DJE Systemsn http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/p   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 03:40:32 GMT # From: Joe Bloggs <JBloggs@acme.com>g# Subject: Re: Question on processorsl8 Message-ID: <dicp701nk624r2ncs9mei87vn56bl0sul6@4ax.com>  & On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:53 +0100 (BST),: duncan@macdonald.compulink.co.uk (Duncan Macdonald) wrote:  L >In the current issue (Apr 2004) of Linux Format there is a benchmark of an : >Itanium system and also a benchmark of an Opteron system.  - Do you happen know of a URL to this article ?d   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:59:18 -0400y* From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com>' Subject: Re: VAX/VMS-WNT integration...o: Message-ID: <nhcfc.23819$951.13912@bignews3.bellsouth.net>   Shiva MahaDeva wrote:e  V > I'd like issue the command "at" in a WNT system from VMS system...is there any way ?Q > I can issue Solaris commands from VMS using RSH, but could I use RSH with WNT ?f  I You need to install a service on WinNT/2K/XP/03 for either RSH, REXEC or  I Telnet before you can do that.  Depending on the version of Windows, you EJ might need a commercial/shareware/freeware product, an add-on for Windows L that can be downloaded from Microsoft or obtained from a Windows ResKit, or L it might be an optional component in Windows that you can choose to install $ from the Windows installation CDROM.     -- i Chuck Choppt  8 ChuckChopp (at) rtfmcsi (dot) com http://www.rtfmcsi.com  @ RTFM Consulting Services Inc.     864 801 2795 voice & voicemail2 103 Autumn Hill Road              864 801 2774 fax Greer, SC  29651  , Do not send me unsolicited commercial email.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:50:25 -0500e@ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: VMS newbie.5 Message-ID: <407C98E1.889C7B8@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>h   sebastien wrote: > q > peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<newscache$pqiwvh$ele1$1@news.sil.at>...ei > > In article <bfd5f3ca.0404090322.6d4500a6@posting.google.com>, ethiobite@yahoo.com (sebastien) writes:   > > >How do I get the name of my > > >workstation on a network ?  > >! > > Praying or guessing ?w > > - > > Now seriously, what do you want to know ?d0 > > Ambigous questions beg for ambigous answers.O > > Can you ask the same questions you want to know for a M$ or a U**X client ?h > > J > > Do you use DHCP ? Does the DHCP server provide a name for the client ?3 > > Ask your network administrator these questions.  > > M > > Do you know $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETSYI ("NODENAME") and $ SHOW NETWORK ?r# > > Is this what you want to know ?  >  > Just starting under VMS,	 > Thanks,  >  > The $show network was. > what I was searching for.l > $ > I've been working under linux/unix" > systems before, vms seems great.  G Well, just as shell scripts tend to be "jackets" around other commands,a: SHOW NETWORK is likewise a jacket around other facilities.  E SHOW NETWORK was intended (I believe - someone correct my speculation . here) to be more universal than commands like:   $ MCR NCP		! DECnet Phase-IV
 SHOW EXECUTORg SHOW KNOWN LINES SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITSo  % $ MCR NCL SHOW stuff	! DECnet Phase Vu  ; $ UCX SHOW COMM		! Older Untrix-Connection (TCP/IP for VMS) + $ TCPIP SHOW COMM	! TCP/IP Servcies for VMSt  E ...and so on. Facilities like TCPware or Multinet (third-party TCP/IPsH stacks for OpenVMS) may or may not be "registered" with the SHOW NETWORK	 facility.i  D ...but yeah, VMS has some great features, and security that can't be beat!u   -- e David J. Dachterae dba DJE Systemsf http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/m   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:12:02 -0400a2 From: "Jonathan Boswell" <jsb.NOSP@M.cdrh.fda.gov>) Subject: Xwindows TCPIP/DECnet forwarding 3 Message-ID: <oWgfc.136$Ny6.247@mencken.net.nih.gov>   K A long, long time ago, I used a software product on a VAX (with no graphics K head) that acted as an X-windows server for remote TCPIP X-windows clients.fH The VAX translated X to DECnet for display on a VAXstation lacking an IPL stack.  Does anybody recall what that software product was called, and if it" might still be available on Alpha?  K What I'm trying to do is get an X-windows client running on a Scyld BeowulfaJ cluster to display on a PC running Excursion.  The Beowulf cluster and theD PC are on separate private networks, with two ES40s (OpenVMS V7.3-2) bridging the two.a   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:01:23 +0200i, From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>! Subject: Re: [ot] DNS Lookup Helpo9 Message-ID: <c5judb$2em5h$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>t  5 "Don Sykes" <paladin@mydomain.com> schreef in berichti7 news:Rtefc.36797$QP5.8720@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com... D > Could someone please do a DNS lookup of my site alphase.com ($ mcr, > SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$NSLOOKUP.EXE ALPHASE.COM)J > When I do one it gets translated at my ISP's DNS server and it's ok, BUT+ > it says it's a "Non-authoritative answer"t6 > A customer says it doesn't translate at all for her. >a > TIAe > -- l >  > Have VMS, Will Travelp > Wire paladin, San Franciscor >o > (paladinATalphaseDOTcom) >t  - nslookup on my DS5305, VMS V7.3 system gives: 
 $ nslookup# Default Server:  osmium.vlems.thuis  Address:  10.0.0.19e   > set q=soad > alphase.com. Server:  osmium.vlems.thuis  Address:  10.0.0.19    alphase.com-         origin = ns1.pbi.net&         mail addr = postmaster.pbi.net         serial = 200303030         refresh = 3600 (1H)w         retry   = 900 (15M)a         expire  = 604800 (1W)5         minimum ttl = 7200 (2H)g( alphase.com     nameserver = ns1.pbi.net( alphase.com     nameserver = ns2.pbi.net/ ns1.pbi.net     internet address = 206.13.28.11 / ns2.pbi.net     internet address = 206.13.29.11n   Hans   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:01:21 GMT 4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)! Subject: Re: [ot] DNS Lookup Help . Message-ID: <1Uffc.36696$wP1.138730@attbi_s54>  g In article <yJffc.36817$Aj6.14011@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>, Don Sykes <paladin@mydomain.com> writes:. !  !  !Hans Vlems wrote: !snip!2 !> ns1.pbi.net     internet address = 206.13.28.112 !> ns2.pbi.net     internet address = 206.13.29.11 !> o !> Hansf !l
 !Thanks Hans, F !It's interesting, that my ISP (ns1.pbi.net) is correct, but no where M !does MY IP address (67.125.72.73) show up. I guess I need to talk to my ISP?-   Hi Don,-  , From my Alpha (TCPware, V5.6-2, VMS V7.3-1):  " RABBIT::BRAD$ nslookup alphase.com% Server:  homeportal.gateway.2wire.net8 Address:  172.16.0.1   Name:    alphase.com Address:  67.125.72.73  C (I don't get the "non-authoritative" message mentioned previously.)i   !s !--  !p !Have VMS, Will Travel !Wire paladin, San Francisco !  !(paladinATalphaseDOTcom)0 !s  J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" K bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-' t0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:13:25 +0200i From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>! Subject: Re: [ot] DNS Lookup Help 2 Message-ID: <c5k2gm$m6m$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Another one:  
 $ nslookup+ Default Server:  cc8554-e.groni1.gr.home.nld Address:  217.120.130.148     > server ns1.pbi.net  Default Server:  ns1.pbi.net Address:  206.13.28.11    > alphase.com Server:  ns1.pbi.net Address:  206.13.28.11  5 *** ns1.pbi.net can't find alphase.com: Server failed   > server 206.13.28.11 Default Server:  ns1.pbi.net Address:  206.13.28.11    > alphase.com Server:  ns1.pbi.net Address:  206.13.28.11   Name:    alphase.com Address:  67.125.72.73    > server ns1.pbi.netn Default Server:  ns1.pbi.net   Address:  206.13.28.11    > alphase.com Server:  ns1.pbi.net Address:  206.13.28.11   Name:    alphase.com Address:  67.125.72.73    7 Seems the DNS server ns1.pbi.net may have some problemsn         Don Sykes wrote: >  >  > Hans Vlems wrote:r > 8 >> "Don Sykes" <paladin@mydomain.com> schreef in bericht: >> news:Rtefc.36797$QP5.8720@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com... >>F >>> Could someone please do a DNS lookup of my site alphase.com ($ mcr. >>> SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$NSLOOKUP.EXE ALPHASE.COM)L >>> When I do one it gets translated at my ISP's DNS server and it's ok, BUT- >>> it says it's a "Non-authoritative answer"w8 >>> A customer says it doesn't translate at all for her. >>>s >>> TIAw >>> -- a >>>e >>> Have VMS, Will Travelr >>> Wire paladin, San Francisco, >>>a >>> (paladinATalphaseDOTcom) >>>  >> >>0 >> nslookup on my DS5305, VMS V7.3 system gives:
 >> $ nslookupa& >> Default Server:  osmium.vlems.thuis >> Address:  10.0.0.19 >> >>
 >>> set q=soaI >>> alphase.com. >> >> >> Server:  osmium.vlems.thuis >> Address:  10.0.0.19 >> >> alphase.com >>         origin = ns1.pbi.neti) >>         mail addr = postmaster.pbi.nets >>         serial = 200303030d >>         refresh = 3600 (1H) >>         retry   = 900 (15M)  >>         expire  = 604800 (1W)" >>         minimum ttl = 7200 (2H)+ >> alphase.com     nameserver = ns1.pbi.net"+ >> alphase.com     nameserver = ns2.pbi.neti2 >> ns1.pbi.net     internet address = 206.13.28.112 >> ns2.pbi.net     internet address = 206.13.29.11 >> >> Hansm >  >  > Thanks Hans,G > It's interesting, that my ISP (ns1.pbi.net) is correct, but no where  J > does MY IP address (67.125.72.73) show up. I guess I need to talk to my  > ISP? >    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.208 ************************