1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 18 Apr 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 215       Contents:& Re: archiving save sets on a linux box
 Delta Time Re: Delta Time -followup Re: Delta Time -followup Re: Delta Time -followup Re: Delta Time -followup Re: Linking XV for OpenVMS need help on fonts for Mozilla" Re: need help on fonts for Mozilla" Re: need help on fonts for Mozilla" Re: need help on fonts for Mozilla Re: Need VAXVMS055 ISO# Re: OpenVMS I64 workstation timing? # Re: OpenVMS I64 workstation timing? # Re: OpenVMS I64 workstation timing?  Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS stop process Re: stop process Re: stop process VMS731_LAN-V0900  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:19:01 GMT 4 From: "Roert G. Schaffrath" <rschaffrath@yahoo.com>/ Subject: Re: archiving save sets on a linux box % Message-ID: <40819138.5253@yahoo.com>   B Yes, VMS V6.2 does support the "Set File /Attribute" command.  ForE versions prior to VMS 6.0, I use the "FILE" utility that is available : from Encompass at ftp://ftp.encompassus.org/vs0174/file/ .  D A really nice DCL procedure to fix savesets that have been FTP'ed isC available at http://www.stanq.com/free.html (this is one of several F places the procedure is located).  I have a modified version of it for6 VMS V5.5-2 that uses the FILE utility mentioned above.   Robert   David Froble wrote:  > (snip)P > Note the record format in the before and after files.  Don't know whether it's > supported in V6.2, but try >  > SET FILE /ATT=(RFM:FIX)  > R > Using HELP SET FILE /ATTRIBUTE will show whether V6.2 has the capability.  Later' > versions (V7.2) allow this operation.  >  > Dave   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:34:23 GMT 2 From: "William Hymen" <t18_pilot@hotmail.spam.com> Subject: Delta Time C Message-ID: <Phigc.11813$l75.2457@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>    All,  ( How would I convert this into delta time, instead of absolute. I could use an example.  B $ resub= """"+f$cvtime("TOMORROW","ABSOLUTE","DATE")+" 02:02:00"""   Thanks in advance-   Bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:10:01 GMT 2 From: "William Hymen" <t18_pilot@hotmail.spam.com>! Subject: Re: Delta Time -followup B Message-ID: <teugc.12146$l75.625@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>  K "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message 0 news:4081FBBA.D2050073@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net... > William Hymen wrote: > >  > > All, > > , > > How would I convert this into delta time0 > > instead of absolute. I could use an example. > > F > > $ resub= """"+f$cvtime("TOMORROW","ABSOLUTE","DATE")+" 02:02:00""" > @ > If I understand the question correctly, my favorite is either: > 2 > $ resub = f$cvtime( "02:02:00+1-", "ABSOLUTE", ) > 
 > ...or... > * > $ SUBMIT.../AFTER="02:02:00+1-" filespec  8 What does the "+1-" mean .. DELTA or the next occurance? I think I get it. C What would the DELTA syntax be for, say, 1hr + 15 minutes from now? 
 Thanks again.    >  > B > ...or some variant thereof (perhaps inserting the time by symbolJ > substitution having received the string from a logical name, F$GETQUI(), > etc.). >  > -- > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:58:49 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>! Subject: Re: Delta Time -followup 9 Message-ID: <c5u1iq$5ish7$1@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de>    William Hymen wrote:M > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message 2 > news:4081FBBA.D2050073@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net... >  >>William Hymen wrote: >> >>>All,  >>> + >>>How would I convert this into delta time / >>>instead of absolute. I could use an example.  >>> E >>>$ resub= """"+f$cvtime("TOMORROW","ABSOLUTE","DATE")+" 02:02:00"""  >>@ >>If I understand the question correctly, my favorite is either: >>2 >>$ resub = f$cvtime( "02:02:00+1-", "ABSOLUTE", ) >>
 >>...or... >>* >>$ SUBMIT.../AFTER="02:02:00+1-" filespec >  > : > What does the "+1-" mean .. DELTA or the next occurance? > I think I get it.   I Delta format is dddd-hh:mm:ss.cc. The -hypen is the delimter between the  E days and hours elements, so the "+1-" means plus one day - truncated  D date strings default so that "+1-" is equivalent to "+1-00:00:00.00"  E > What would the DELTA syntax be for, say, 1hr + 15 minutes from now?  >    "+1:15"    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 07:55:57 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> ! Subject: Re: Delta Time -followup 0 Message-ID: <10855o14c85991c@corp.supernews.com>   William Hymen wrote:  * >>$ SUBMIT.../AFTER="02:02:00+1-" filespec >  > : > What does the "+1-" mean .. DELTA or the next occurance? > I think I get it. E > What would the DELTA syntax be for, say, 1hr + 15 minutes from now?    /AFTER="+00:15"      $ HELP DCL_TIPS DATE_TIME DELTA    Delta   @   Delta time is an offset from the current time to a time in the.   future. Delta time has the following format:          "+[dddd-][hh:mm:ss.cc]"  @   You can truncate delta time after the hour field. You can alsoC   omit any of the fields after the hour field format as long as you     specify the punctuation marks.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:00:06 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> ! Subject: Re: Delta Time -followup 0 Message-ID: <10855vmafc4co1a@corp.supernews.com>   Z wrote:F >> What would the DELTA syntax be for, say, 1hr + 15 minutes from now?  : Ooops, I missed the "1hr" part of the Q on the first read.   Make that /AFTER="+01:15"      >  >  > /AFTER="+00:15"  >  > ! > $ HELP DCL_TIPS DATE_TIME DELTA  >  > Delta  > A >  Delta time is an offset from the current time to a time in the / >  future. Delta time has the following format:  >  >       "+[dddd-][hh:mm:ss.cc]"  > A >  You can truncate delta time after the hour field. You can also D >  omit any of the fields after the hour field format as long as you! >  specify the punctuation marks.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 05:03:22 GMT ( From: Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com># Subject: Re: Linking XV for OpenVMS , Message-ID: <u_ngc.43741$dg7.10409@edtnps84>   Craig A. Berry wrote::  - > In article <40800c76$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca>, . >  "Alder" <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> wrote: > H >>It was my feeble attempt to resolve another set of "undefined" symbolsB >>that I was getting before I added the "/NAMES=(AS_IS,SHORTENED)"D >>qualifier.  They all related to the third-party imaging libraries:$ >>LibJPEG, LibPNG, and LibTIFF, i.e. > H > You need to compile everything, including all the libraries, with the I > same /NAMES option (or without the option).  If one library or package  C > requires /NAMES=(AS_IS,SHORTENED), then you have to use that for  ! > everything you link against it.    Thanks, Craig.  G I recompiled one of the imaging libraries, LibTIFF, without the /NAMES  H qualifer.  The other two imaging libraries, LibJPEG and LibPNG, came as B precompiled binaries in PCSI kits, so I'm not sure which compiler F options were used.  At any rate, the LibJPEG and LibPNG are no longer I posing any problems and XV loads them without complaint.  The issue with  C them seemed to be that I had been trying to link against the *.olb  F (static?) versions of these libraries.  Linking to the *.exe versions I resulted in all their symbols being successfully resolved.  Only LibTIFF   is still causing problems.   I ran   8 $ pipe analyse/image <image> | search sys$pipe "symbol:"  E on each of the three imaging libraries and noted that the symbols in  H LibJPEG are either all lower-case or all UPPER-CASE with no Mixed-case; H in LibPNG they are UPPER, lower, and Mixed; and in LibTIFF they are all E Mixed case.  Since only LibTIFF is causing problems, I'm unsure what   case has to do with it.   D I also tried following Richard Brodie's advice and added a few test " "#define" statements to xv.h, i.e.   #define TIFFClose TIFFCLOSE ) #define TIFFComputeStrip TIFFCOMPUTESTRIP   C ...but when I recompiled and linked, these same symbols were still   "undefined".  H Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this sort of problem would  be greatly appreciated.    Regards,   Terry    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:11:41 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)' Subject: need help on fonts for Mozilla $ Message-ID: <c5tgod$r48$2@online.de>  G I've asked this question here before, but despite a few useful replies  ' haven't been able to solve the problem.   ' I can provide more details if required.   F My problem is that Mozilla doesn't display fonts in all sizes, shapes B and strengths for certain character sets, but does for others.  I F realise this is because the fonts are missing.  I have installed some * fonts and have solved part of the problem.  B Basically, I need to know what fonts I need to install to find my E problem (and of course where to get them, though I can probably find  C them once I know what I need).  I'm not concerned about having all  F possible types of fonts (i.e. different foundries etc), merely enough C for all common sizes, shapes and strengths.  (These are indirectly    specified by various HTML tags.)  H Although disk space is not an issue, it seems a bad idea to a) take the E trial-and-error approach or b) just install all the fonts I can find.   F I don't think it makes much difference as far as my problem goes, but * I'm using MOZILLA on DECwindows under VMS.  E I could solve the problem myself if I knew how the information in an  I HTML page gets translated to a request for specific fonts, and how other  G fonts are substituted for them if these are not available.  However, I  ' haven't found this documented anywhere.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:22:42 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> + Subject: Re: need help on fonts for Mozilla 8 Message-ID: <vdk4809von91b731inmlo8oqomh9jaib44@4ax.com>  I On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:11:41 +0000 (UTC), helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de 1 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) wrote:   G >I don't think it makes much difference as far as my problem goes, but  + >I'm using MOZILLA on DECwindows under VMS.   L I hardly ever get a missing font so your experiences so it could be that theP particular sites that you are visiting actually explicitly define what fonts areN to be displayed rather than leaving it up to the browser (which is the correctL method) & you don't have them. Can you give us an example of a site that youF have problems with then we/I can recheck with other browsers &/or O?S.  G What version of Motif/DECWindows are you running including any patches? ( What version of Mozilla are you running?   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:34:08 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> + Subject: Re: need help on fonts for Mozilla 8 Message-ID: <ba3580506b10m1snk8k6pnbkbbohmvu5np@4ax.com>  I On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:45:27 +0000 (UTC), helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de 1 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) wrote:   F >In article <vdk4809von91b731inmlo8oqomh9jaib44@4ax.com>, Nigel Barker ><nigel@hp.com> writes:  > J >> >I don't think it makes much difference as far as my problem goes, but . >> >I'm using MOZILLA on DECwindows under VMS. >>  O >> I hardly ever get a missing font so your experiences so it could be that the S >> particular sites that you are visiting actually explicitly define what fonts are Q >> to be displayed rather than leaving it up to the browser (which is the correct O >> method) & you don't have them. Can you give us an example of a site that you I >> have problems with then we/I can recheck with other browsers &/or O?S.  > D >Sorry, instead of "fonts" I should have said "character sets", i.e.0 >iso-8859-1 displays OK, but iso-8859-5 doesn't. > J >> What version of Motif/DECWindows are you running including any patches?+ >> What version of Mozilla are you running?  > I >The (almost) newest in both cases.  As far as I can tell, though I will  / >upgrade soon anyway, that won't change things.   K OK but you still haven't answered my questions as to which sites give you a N problem. Of course if the answer is embarrassing just forget I mentioned it:-)     -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:45:27 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)+ Subject: Re: need help on fonts for Mozilla $ Message-ID: <c5u0pn$dkp$1@online.de>  E In article <vdk4809von91b731inmlo8oqomh9jaib44@4ax.com>, Nigel Barker  <nigel@hp.com> writes:    I > >I don't think it makes much difference as far as my problem goes, but  - > >I'm using MOZILLA on DECwindows under VMS.  > N > I hardly ever get a missing font so your experiences so it could be that theR > particular sites that you are visiting actually explicitly define what fonts areP > to be displayed rather than leaving it up to the browser (which is the correctN > method) & you don't have them. Can you give us an example of a site that youH > have problems with then we/I can recheck with other browsers &/or O?S.  C Sorry, instead of "fonts" I should have said "character sets", i.e. / iso-8859-1 displays OK, but iso-8859-5 doesn't.   I > What version of Motif/DECWindows are you running including any patches? * > What version of Mozilla are you running?  H The (almost) newest in both cases.  As far as I can tell, though I will . upgrade soon anyway, that won't change things.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:44:06 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: Need VAXVMS055 ISO 6 Message-ID: <4081F986.FE2904F7@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Alex Daniels wrote:  > M > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message 2 > news:4080A69B.D2C6D485@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net... > > Romax MANIAX wrote:  > > > 	 > > > Hi,  > > > 5 > > > can someone provide me a vax vms 5.5 iso image?  > > J > > Well, technically, you need an ODS-2 image - VAXes won't boot from ISO > > CDs. > <SNIP> > H > At a guess, as Romax mentions he is a hobbist and is asking for an ISO > image, he has SIMH.  > M > In which case he can attach the whole ISO image file of the CD as a fake CD  > drive and boot from that...   4 ...except that it will still be ODS-2, not ISO-9660.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:29:40 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> , Subject: Re: OpenVMS I64 workstation timing?, Message-ID: <Y-SdnXwFoJxVPBzdRVn-tA@igs.net>  B "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspringdot.com> wrote in messageF news:rdeininger-1704040716110001@user-uinj4al.dialup.mindspring.com...5 > In article <ScN8SsaS7BO0@eisner.encompasserve.org>, . > koehler@eisner.aspm.encompasserve.org wrote: > H > >   A couple months back I heard from various sources about a possible7 > >   low cost developer's workstation for OpenVMS I64.  > > I > >   What is available now according to HP's web pages are preconfigured F > >   HP-UX or Linux systems and the OpenVMS 8.1 evaluation kit on CD. > > @ > >   I'd like to get some idea of when part numbers and pricingF > >   information would be available for a developer's workstation for8 > >   OpenVMS I64.  Are we looking at the 8.2 timeframe? > > E > >   I'm trying to replace a 12 year old DEC 3000 M600S and a couple K > >   VXT 2000+.  A couple developer's workstations sound just about right, K > >   if I can get them before October.  If that's not likely, then I'll go G > >   ahead and price out what's on the web page now (IRRC it was about ( > >   $8K US when 8.1 started shipping). > , > V8.2 won't hit the streets before October. > I > You probably won't see VMS on price lists and ordering menus until V8.2  ships. > G > For low-cost systems, look at the rx1600 or rx2600 servers with 1 GHz K > CPU(s).  Both include built-in Gigabit LAN and U320 SCSI.  The management C > card (standard on rx2600, optional on rx1600) includes a graphics I > controller.  This graphics isn't meant for high-powered 3D work, but it L > should outperform most of the graphics options available for the DEC 3000. > L > I don't think anyone knows the price of VMS on Itanium yet.  But there areL > supposed to be very good discounts for customers migrating from Alpha.  IfI > you qualify for any of the Alpha Retain Trust programs, you'll probably J > end up with VMS prices somewhere between Linux and HP-UX software prices > on the systems.   L That's where VMS ought to be priced in any event for average customers 'justJ off the street'. It used to be that Tru64 and VMS were priced 'at partity'I because Digital, and even Compaq (at least in the early days) were saying D that it shouldn't be list or purchase price that determined which of@ Digital's operating systems a customer chose to run on an Alpha.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 04:33:35 GMT / From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) , Subject: Re: OpenVMS I64 workstation timing?- Message-ID: <baWWUXlhEFIF@cuebid.zko.dec.com>   B "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> writes:  C > Maybe hp's apathy toward VMS is finally getting the better of me.   E If you come to the technical boot camp, I suspect your opinion about  , our commitment toward VMS might change . . .   --    M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:47:10 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> , Subject: Re: OpenVMS I64 workstation timing?, Message-ID: <xOGdnfOPaONuCR_dRVn-sA@igs.net>  < "Rob Brooks" <brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in message' news:baWWUXlhEFIF@cuebid.zko.dec.com... D > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> writes: > E > > Maybe hp's apathy toward VMS is finally getting the better of me.  > F > If you come to the technical boot camp, I suspect your opinion about. > our commitment toward VMS might change . . .    K Why? Is HP going to be launching a $40 million OpenVMS advertising campaign  there?  K Engineering comittment has never been in question, though in truth, funding I for engineering of VMS has in recent years been below what is required to J ensure that many features were added on a more timely basis than they have been.   = The big issue has always been advertising & marketing of VMS.   J Just because Ford & Chrysler advertise their products doesn't stop GM fromL advertising theirs...in case the analog escapes some, read Microsoft, Linux,
 & OpenVMS.  F And to put it into a different sort of perspective, I quote from  "Dr.J Strangelove or: How I learned to stop worrying and love the Bomb" (page 99 in my copy),  J ' There is only one thing I don't understand, Mister Ambassador. The wholeI point of the Doomsday Machine is lost if you keep it a secret. Why didn't  you tell the world?"   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:19:23 +0200 , From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl># Subject: Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS 9 Message-ID: <c5tdq7$5khaj$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   E "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> schreef in 8 bericht news:4081FAED.512E5F0E@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net... > Hans Vlems wrote:  > > G > > "Dominic Olivastro" <DOlivastro@ChiResearch.com> schreef in bericht C > > news:32b02$4080351d$44a5e110$18043@msgid.meganewsservers.com...  > > > [snip]L > > > 3.  The remote can NOT run PowerTerm, the terminal emulator that comes > > with8 > > > Pathworks and allows the user to log into the VAX. > > > B > > > Of course, the third point is the problem.  Does anyone have
 experience > > with > > > this?  > > L > > There's no reason it shouldn't work. I used that setup a couple of years ago L > > to solve a queue problem on a VAX. I used PCanywhere to connect to an NTH > > system and ran the VT320 emulator that comes (came?) with Pathworks. > D > I'm wondering if that might have been the old VTxxx program (don't; > recall the exact name, wanna say it may have been VT100).  >  > --   > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   H The program was called VT320.EXE, the version I have is on the Pathworks	 V7.1a CD. L It is available for i386 and Alpha NT 4. IIRC this emulator is now available as freeware.   Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:50:05 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net># Subject: Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS 6 Message-ID: <4081FAED.512E5F0E@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Hans Vlems wrote:  > E > "Dominic Olivastro" <DOlivastro@ChiResearch.com> schreef in bericht A > news:32b02$4080351d$44a5e110$18043@msgid.meganewsservers.com... 
 > > [snip]J > > 3.  The remote can NOT run PowerTerm, the terminal emulator that comes > with6 > > Pathworks and allows the user to log into the VAX. > > K > > Of course, the third point is the problem.  Does anyone have experience  > with	 > > this?  > N > There's no reason it shouldn't work. I used that setup a couple of years agoJ > to solve a queue problem on a VAX. I used PCanywhere to connect to an NTF > system and ran the VT320 emulator that comes (came?) with Pathworks.  B I'm wondering if that might have been the old VTxxx program (don't9 recall the exact name, wanna say it may have been VT100).    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:43:22 GMT * From: tutor <tutor_removespam_@cfl.rr.com> Subject: stop process 8 Message-ID: <pkj380pa1dp6dqe2vstt0t8cv6km0c2pac@4ax.com>  5 Haven't tried to be a system admin in over 10 years.  3 Its amazing the "simple" things I have forgotten!!!     # Need to know how to stop a process.   4 stop process/id= xxxx does not work. not authorized.2 went into sys$system:authorize and I have syspriv.  / even tried set proces/priv=bypass (not allowed)   , please reply to tutor AT cfl DOT rr DOT com   
 Thank you, Jerrold    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:21:28 -0400 ' From: John Sauter <J_Sauter@Empire.Net>  Subject: Re: stop process 8 Message-ID: <qsl3805u733be3com6uv4gg44kh3t0v4jd@4ax.com>    tutor wrote (excerpted):   5 Haven't tried to be a system admin in over 10 years.  3 Its amazing the "simple" things I have forgotten!!!   # Need to know how to stop a process.   4 stop process/id= xxxx does not work. not authorized.2 went into sys$system:authorize and I have syspriv.  / even tried set proces/priv=bypass (not allowed)   , please reply to tutor AT cfl DOT rr DOT com    John Sauter responded:  * I believe the privilege you need is World.%     John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:56:44 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: stop process 6 Message-ID: <4081FC7C.79B42391@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   tutor wrote: > 6 > Haven't tried to be a system admin in over 10 years.5 > Its amazing the "simple" things I have forgotten!!!  > % > Need to know how to stop a process.  > 6 > stop process/id= xxxx does not work. not authorized.4 > went into sys$system:authorize and I have syspriv.  @ SYSPRV allows you access an object via the System portion of the protection mask.  1 > even tried set proces/priv=bypass (not allowed)   F Well, HELP will tell what BYPASS does - I'll not post it plainly here.  $ Anyway, the priv. you want would be:  * For processes within your UIC group: GROUP  + For processes outside your UIC group: WORLD    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:08:19 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: VMS731_LAN-V0900 $ Message-ID: <c5td1j$nro$1@online.de>  8 From ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/alpha/V7.3-1/  J > Mar 25 06:08  text/plain       .VMS731_LAN-V0800.PCSI-DCX_AXPEXE  1895Kb< > Mar 25 06:08  text/plain       .VMS731_LAN-V0800.txt  40KbL > Apr 15 06:07  text/plain       ALPHA_V731_MASTER_ECO_LIST.DCX_AXPEXE  52KbD > Apr 15 06:07  text/plain       ALPHA_V731_MASTER_ECO_LIST.txt  3Kb >  > .  > .  > .  > I > Apr 14 06:11  text/plain       VMS731_LAN-V0900.PCSI-DCX_AXPEXE  1902Kb ; > Apr 14 06:11  text/plain       VMS731_LAN-V0900.txt  43Kb  > H > 6  NEW FUNCTIONALITY AND/OR PROBLEMS ADDRESSED IN THE VMS731_LAN-V0900 >    KIT > * >      6.1  Problems addressed in this kit > F >           6.1.1  Writeboot not performed if VMS731_LAN-V0800 ECO kit >                  removed > . >                6.1.1.1  Problem Description: > I >                The VMS731_LAN-V0800 ECO kit contains the APB.EXE image. D >                If the kit is removed via the PCSI UNDO option, theI >                previous APB.EXE is replaced and the boot block changes. G >                A writeboot needs to be performed in order to point to J >                the new boot block.  The kit should perform the writebootI >                as part of the UNDO operation but it does not.  This may ? >                leave the system in an unbootable state if the 1 >                VMS731_LAN-V0800 kit is removed.  > H >                                                                 Page 6 >  > E >                The VMS731_LAN-V0900 ECO kit provides this writeboot  >                function. > ! >                Images Affected:  > " >                 -  POST_UNDO.COM >  > .  > .  > .  > ( > 7  PROBLEMS ADDRESSED IN PREVIOUS KITS  H Am I correct in assuming that the ONLY reason to install this patch if IG have installed the previous version is so that I will be able to remove G it?  In other words, if the previous version is installed and I have no C plans to remove it, then I don't need to install this new version?    G Or could it be that the previous version might be implicitly removed as ? part of some other installation, leading to the serious problem $ (unbootable system) described above?  > On another topic: why do the obviously binary files show up as text/plain?   E The display above is generated with LYNX and I regularly use LYNX to  E download patches and they download correctly (i.e. I can RUN them to  > decompress and they then install successfully), so apparently D advertising them as text/plain has no ill effects (at least for me).   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.215 ************************