1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 21 Apr 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 221       Contents:6 Re: "Pulling" a File From OpenVMS from M$ Visual Basic2 Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=E9tris?= assembleur VAX + SMG2 Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates2 Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates2 Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates2 Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates2 Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates2 Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates> Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ...> Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ...> Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ...> Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ...> Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ...4 Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ...4 Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ...4 Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ...4 Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ...4 Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ...4 Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ...4 Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ... Re: Media Handling Guidelines . OOPS !! Was supposed to be a response !! <EOM> Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS	 Re: RWINS  Re: Trying to run an EXE Re: Trying to run an EXE Re: Trying to run an EXE Re: Trying to run an EXE RE: Trying to run an EXE Re: Trying to run an EXE Re: Trying to run an EXE6 Re: Undeniable proof that Itanium is highly profitable6 Re: Undeniable proof that Itanium is highly profitable6 Re: Undeniable proof that Itanium is highly profitable6 Re: Undeniable proof that Itanium is highly profitable/ Re: Using Windows XP hyperterminal with OpenVMS / Re: Using Windows XP hyperterminal with OpenVMS / Re: Using Windows XP hyperterminal with OpenVMS / Re: Using Windows XP hyperterminal with OpenVMS " Re: VAX Macro language and file..." Re: VAX Macro language and file..." Re: VAX Macro language and file..." VB program to put to a remote node9 VMS in education, was: Re: VAX Macro language and file... , Re: [OT] An interesting view of Linux's cost  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:00:59 +0100 , From: Adrian Birkett <aaa@notreallyhere.com>? Subject: Re: "Pulling" a File From OpenVMS from M$ Visual Basic ' Message-ID: <c65kcj$13k$2@lore.csc.com>    James,  E Thought you might like to have a look at this simple VB program. You  D require a command button, the INET control and a listbox on a blank F form. You can modify as required to GET a file from the remote system.   Regards,   Ade    Private Sub Command2_Click()
    With Inet1         .UserName = "your_user""        .Password = "your_password"        .RemoteHost = "nodename"         .Protocol = icFTP        On Error GoTo handler*        .Execute , "PUT c:\trash\a.txt a.a"        Do While .StillExecuting             DoEvents         Loop     End With     Inet1.Cancel     Exit Sub  handler:G    MsgBox "Error: " & Err.Number & vbCrLf & Err.Description, vbOKOnly,   "FTP Error"     Resume Next End Sub   6 Private Sub Inet1_StateChanged(ByVal State As Integer)    Dim xx(12) As String D    xx(0) = "No State": xx(1) = "Resolving Host Name": xx(2) = "Host 	 Resolved"     xx(3) = "Connecting" I    xx(4) = "Connected": xx(5) = "Sending Request": xx(6) = "Request Sent"     xx(7) = "Receiving Response" B    xx(8) = "Response Received": xx(9) = "Disconnecting": xx(10) =  "Disconnected"H    xx(11) = "ERROR: " & Inet1.ResponseCode & " -- " & Inet1.ResponseInfo     xx(12) = "Response Completed"*    List1.AddItem Time() & ": " & xx(State) End Sub    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:46:45 +0000 (UTC)   From: JKB <bertrand@chezmoi.com>; Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=E9tris?= assembleur VAX + SMG : Message-ID: <slrnc8d9bk.f0r.bertrand@grossebaf.makalis.fr>   Le 21-04-2004,  propos de Ttris assembleur VAX + SMG,.  NGUYEN KHANH Phuc crivait dans comp.os.vms :
 > Bonjour,K > Suite un conseil d'une personne, je m'inscris sur ce groupe de discussion  > pour vous demander de l'aide. I > Je suis  la recherche des codes d'un ttris en assembleur VAX avec SMG - > (Screen Management) en interface graphique. J > J'ai trouv sur le net (http://decwarch.free.fr/index.html) un ttris enI > assembleur VAX mais utlisant comme interface graphique X11 appel aussi N > DECWindows ou DECWindows/Motif. Il m'est aussi impossible de l'excuter (via< > un serveur VAX "polarhome") car je ne peux lire les codes.M > En vous remerciant par avance, je vous prie d'accepter, l'expression de mes  > sentiments respectueux.   " 	In english ? fu2 fr.comp.os.vms !  = 	D'accord, je le fais, mais je prends aussi la note du TP ;-)   D 	Srieusement, SMG$ est dans ce cas _trs_ simple d'utilisation (pasC 	besoin de se faire un noeud au cerveau avec les viewport et autres D 	joyeusets...). L'algorithme du Ttris est simpliste aussi (on faitA 	un tableau d'entiers, faon matrice o on dplace les pices qui E 	tombent. Lorsque la pice ne peut plus tomber, on regarde les lignes C 	qui sont compltes (par exemples qui ne comportent plus de zros), C 	et on les limine. Le MacroAssembleur VAX est trs bien pour faire E 	a (ce n'est absolument pas le code assembleur qui est effectivement E 	comprhensible par l'alpha, parce que si JPP vous demandait de faire ' 	la mme chose en assembleur alpha...).    	Cordialement,   	JKB   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:17:10 GMT 0 From: glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu>; Subject: Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates . Message-ID: <Glohc.37844$yD1.111892@attbi_s54>   AMIT wrote:   ? > I am trying to find a list of usernames from SYSUAF.DAT whose  > expiration date is none.# > Tried ANALYZE/AUDIT with no luck?  > Can some one help please? G > (Note: we have a large no. of users, so UAF>LIST /FULL * will produce 2 > lots of output; I am looking for an alternative)  B I remember around 1985 discovering that I could set the expirationB date to any day I wanted to.  I set all my files to something like/ 1999, and I knew I wouldn't be there that long.   " Oh, you mean user names not files.   That is different.   -- glen    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 08:20:51 +0200' From: huber@mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber) ; Subject: Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates + Message-ID: <EZ1h$1ArFLwG@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   a In article <7e127df6.0404202112.7dfc1ed@posting.google.com>, thick_guy_9@yahoo.com (AMIT) writes: ? > I am trying to find a list of usernames from SYSUAF.DAT whose  > expiration date is none.# > Tried ANALYZE/AUDIT with no luck?  > Can some one help please? G > (Note: we have a large no. of users, so UAF>LIST /FULL * will produce 2 > lots of output; I am looking for an alternative)  < Look for a program GETUAI , I think it's on the freeware CD.    $ GETUAI user /EXPIRATION=symbol  / puts the expiration date or "NONE" into symbol. 6 You still need to supply the user-list to call GETUAI,6 but that should be easy in DCL, parsing the output of  AUTHORIZE list /brief * .    --  >    Joseph "Sepp" Huber, Muenchen   http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:33:15 GMT & From: Lee Mah <lytmah@telusplanet.net>; Subject: Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates + Message-ID: <vdrhc.61844$aD.45843@edtnps89>    $ ty ts.com  $ set def sys$system $ mc authorize list */full 5 $ sear sysuaf.lis "Username:","Expiration:" /out=ts.1 " $!!!!! t.s contains all usernames.@ $ sear ts.1 "Expiration:            (none)" /win=(1,0) /out=ts.24 $!!!!! ts.2 contains all usernames with "...(none)". $ dif ts.1 ts.2 /out=ts.3 ' $!!!!! Output differences to file ts.3.  $ type/page ts.3) $! Remember to go back to home directory.      AMIT wrote:    >Hi > >I am trying to find a list of usernames from SYSUAF.DAT whose >expiration date is none. " >Tried ANALYZE/AUDIT with no luck? >Can some one help please?F >(Note: we have a large no. of users, so UAF>LIST /FULL * will produce1 >lots of output; I am looking for an alternative)  >  >TIA >    >    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 03:33:31 -0700% From: Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl (Bart Zorn) ; Subject: Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates = Message-ID: <a98cd882.0404210233.37ffd049@posting.google.com>    Have a look at SCANUAF,   =  http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?SCANUAF    Regards,  	 Bart Zorn   f thick_guy_9@yahoo.com (AMIT) wrote in message news:<7e127df6.0404202112.7dfc1ed@posting.google.com>... > Hi? > I am trying to find a list of usernames from SYSUAF.DAT whose  > expiration date is none.# > Tried ANALYZE/AUDIT with no luck?  > Can some one help please? G > (Note: we have a large no. of users, so UAF>LIST /FULL * will produce 2 > lots of output; I am looking for an alternative) >  > TIA    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:58:39 GMT " From: Lee <lytmah@telusplanet.net>; Subject: Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates , Message-ID: <ztshc.39268$mn3.33762@clgrps13>  
 typo error   Lee Mah wrote:
 > $ ty ts.com  > $ set def sys$system > $ mc authorize
 > list */full 7 > $ sear sysuaf.lis "Username:","Expiration:" /out=ts.1 % > $!!!!! ts.1 contains all usernames. B > $ sear ts.1 "Expiration:            (none)" /win=(1,0) /out=ts.26 > $!!!!! ts.2 contains all usernames with "...(none)". > $ dif ts.1 ts.2 /out=ts.3 ) > $!!!!! Output differences to file ts.3.  > $ type/page ts.3+ > $! Remember to go back to home directory.  >  > 
 > AMIT wrote:  >  >> Hi @ >> I am trying to find a list of usernames from SYSUAF.DAT whose >> expiration date is none. $ >> Tried ANALYZE/AUDIT with no luck? >> Can some one help please?H >> (Note: we have a large no. of users, so UAF>LIST /FULL * will produce3 >> lots of output; I am looking for an alternative)  >> >> TIA >>   >> >    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:27:51 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ; Subject: Re: how to list accounts that have no expiry dates 3 Message-ID: <oZhRtE1UQaVN@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <7e127df6.0404202112.7dfc1ed@posting.google.com>, thick_guy_9@yahoo.com (AMIT) writes:  > Hi? > I am trying to find a list of usernames from SYSUAF.DAT whose  > expiration date is none.# > Tried ANALYZE/AUDIT with no luck?  > Can some one help please? G > (Note: we have a large no. of users, so UAF>LIST /FULL * will produce 2 > lots of output; I am looking for an alternative)  @    I would loop over calls to $GETUAI, but to drive such loops I9    always LIST/BRIEF and parse the listing for usernames.   E    A wildcard feature for privileged users of $GETUAI would be a nice $    thing to show up, say around 8.3?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:20:27 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> G Subject: Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ... 0 Message-ID: <c65htd$jbd$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bob Koehler wrote:  \ > In article <c5p1rs$1tbl$1@news.cybercity.dk>, "Karsten Nyblad" <nospam@nospam.com> writes: >  > J >>I think we all have realized that the zero terminate strings of Unix mayC >>cause many problems with buffer overflows.  However, the projects C >>implementing internet services Unix or Linux know this problem.    >  > D >    Great, meanwhile more code which does not avail itself of theseG >    extra levels of protection is being written daily.  Not to mention  >    what's already out there. >  > M >>there is only one routine that checks who may logon on.  Do you know of any  >>Unixes where it is not so? >  > H >    Yes.  Every UNIX I have ever used has logon implemented by at leastE >    login and ftpd.  I've had to fix some of those ftpd to do things  >    login could do. > = "in.ftpd uses pam(3PAM) for authentication,  account  manage- < ment, and session management. The  PAM configuration policy,< listed through /etc/pam.conf, specifies  the  module  to  be< used  for  in.ftpd.  Here  is  a  partial pam.conf file with< entries for the in.ftpd command using the  UNIX  authentica-9 tion, account management, and session management module."   $  From the Solaris ftdp manual pages.  ? Karsten is correct, ftpd uses PAM which is what everything else  uses to authenticate users.   9 So unless you are refering to something else his point is  correct and yours isn't.   23   Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:33:50 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) G Subject: Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ... 3 Message-ID: <YrHGDADLmuOz@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <c65htd$jbd$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > & >  From the Solaris ftdp manual pages.  -    Somehow I don't think Solaris is all UNIX.   B    _I_ (me, myself, first person), have fixed ftpd that were usingE    different code for authentication than login was.  Any single UNIX ,    not doing so does not change the example.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:32:26 +0200 * From: "Karsten Nyblad" <nospam@nospam.com>G Subject: Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ... - Message-ID: <c660mk$10cg$1@news.cybercity.dk>   H "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:YrHGDADLmuOz@eisner.encompasserve.org... B > In article <c65htd$jbd$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison+ <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes:  > > ( > >  From the Solaris ftdp manual pages. > / >    Somehow I don't think Solaris is all UNIX.  > D >    _I_ (me, myself, first person), have fixed ftpd that were usingG >    different code for authentication than login was.  Any single UNIX . >    not doing so does not change the example. > H Or that the Unix people have realized that they too needed to centralizeL authentication and authorization.  Please remember that many of the APIs for9 authentication and authorization in VMS are not that old.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:24:12 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> G Subject: Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ... 0 Message-ID: <c663mt$pbs$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bob Koehler wrote:  n > In article <c65htd$jbd$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > & >> From the Solaris ftdp manual pages. >  > / >    Somehow I don't think Solaris is all UNIX.  >   4 It is however the dominant UNIX platform and because4 Sun developed PAM and pushed it out to the community its also widely used elsewhere.   + The Linux desktop I am using also uses PAM.    Regards  Andrew Harrison D >    _I_ (me, myself, first person), have fixed ftpd that were usingG >    different code for authentication than login was.  Any single UNIX . >    not doing so does not change the example. >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:13:55 GMT 0 From: glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu>G Subject: Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ... . Message-ID: <nZxhc.40149$yD1.115781@attbi_s54>   Andrew Harrison wrote:   (someone wrote)   0 >>    Somehow I don't think Solaris is all UNIX.  6 > It is however the dominant UNIX platform and because6 > Sun developed PAM and pushed it out to the community! > its also widely used elsewhere.   - > The Linux desktop I am using also uses PAM.   < Yes, at least some Linux use it, as I have run into it thereD (trying to get ftpd to work on a system not configured as a server.)# I didn't even know it was from Sun.   = With the popularity of Solaris as a web server, I don't think ) anyone can say that they haven't used it.   9 There may be some people only running older Unix systems, > and others run third party ftpd, which may or may not use pam.   -- glen    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:13:55 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> = Subject: Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ... 0 Message-ID: <c65e0l$hu5$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bob Koehler wrote: > In article <c63gkc$rqd$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes: >  >>So for new customers ??????? >> >  > H >    To hell with new customers.  I've been using this stuff for decadesH >    and my old PDP-11 still works.  I can't even find a Sun 68K machineJ >    of the same era.  Why should I buy into workstations or servers that $ >    have lifetimes as short as PCs? > H >    And OBTW, yes, I've seen all that old stuff, like MASSBUS, on eBay.H >    So you can run out and buy it.  And most of it will run VMS 7.3 andF >    join a cluster with a brand new system, so there is a market for / >    software and support for that old stuff.    >   = Sure, no doubt you could also source a Nascom or a PET if you  tried hard enough.  5 But as a solution for current commercial customers ??   4 Sure OpenVMS clusters do support MASSBUS etc but you6 cannot buy any of the interconnects except FC and SCSI6 today except second user so it really isn't a solution for new systems.  : Thanks for participating though, your response illustrates7 another facet of the OpenVMS malaise which makes two in  this thread.   Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:20:18 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) = Subject: Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ... 3 Message-ID: <jNfj8Kt845Tk@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <c65e0l$hu5$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > 6 > Sure OpenVMS clusters do support MASSBUS etc but you8 > cannot buy any of the interconnects except FC and SCSI8 > today except second user so it really isn't a solution > for new systems.  D    I don't support "new systems".  I support "customers".  And I'll I    recommend purchase of a used system when it's a match for their needs.   H    I guess someone who sells Suns for a living couldn't understand that.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:16:12 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> = Subject: Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ... 0 Message-ID: <c6637t$p6g$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bob Koehler wrote:  n > In article <c65e0l$hu5$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > 6 >>Sure OpenVMS clusters do support MASSBUS etc but you8 >>cannot buy any of the interconnects except FC and SCSI8 >>today except second user so it really isn't a solution >>for new systems. >  > F >    I don't support "new systems".  I support "customers".  And I'll K >    recommend purchase of a used system when it's a match for their needs.  > J >    I guess someone who sells Suns for a living couldn't understand that. >   8 I guess that if you think I sell Sun's for a living then* you would be having compehension problems.  7 Fact is you are comparing OpenVMS's support of obsolete 6 interconnects with what Sun currently supports for its	 clusters.   ? Both the major customers I support have extensive Fibre Channel ? SANS so there is no impediment to them implementing QFS if they  want.   @ One of the customers used to be an OpenVMS customer, however the= Alpha servers and associated cluster were ripped out a couple ? of years ago so if they were to impliment a new OpenVMS cluster A which is not very likely they would do so using FC based storage.   : As I said earlier your point only serves to illustrate one6 of the many OpenVMS woes, your tenacity only serves to# make the illustration more telling.  Regards    Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:09:58 +0200 * From: "Karsten Nyblad" <nospam@nospam.com>= Subject: Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ... - Message-ID: <c664qt$15lf$1@news.cybercity.dk>   F "Andrew Harrison" <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> wrote in message* news:c65e0l$hu5$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com...6 > Sure OpenVMS clusters do support MASSBUS etc but you8 > cannot buy any of the interconnects except FC and SCSI8 > today except second user so it really isn't a solution > for new systems.  J What options are missing?  As far as I can se SCSI is a solution for small and FC for anything larger.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:57:54 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> = Subject: Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ... 0 Message-ID: <c665m3$q0q$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Karsten Nyblad wrote:   H > "Andrew Harrison" <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> wrote in message, > news:c65e0l$hu5$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com... > 6 >>Sure OpenVMS clusters do support MASSBUS etc but you8 >>cannot buy any of the interconnects except FC and SCSI8 >>today except second user so it really isn't a solution >>for new systems. >  > L > What options are missing?  As far as I can se SCSI is a solution for small > and FC for anything larger.  >  > = Multi system connection to SCSI is done using multi-initatior < this opens the system or at least the interconnect up to new; sets of failure conditions and is really only effective for 
 2 servers.  : In fact QFS also supports multi-port arrays so you can get6 low end clusters but generally only using two systems.   Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:03:35 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> = Subject: Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ... 0 Message-ID: <c6660p$q7g$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bob Ceculski wrote:    > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in message news:<407F3A87.92BD1C5B@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>... >  >>Bob Ceculski wrote:  >>7 >>>it's too bad HP can't seem to help it on its way out 5 >>>using OpenVMS as the doorman ... and if users want 6 >>>help, VMS has plenty of that and is ready to go out$ >>>of the box as far as security ... >>> , >>>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15343 >>
 >>Um, Bob? >>H >>The info in that article is behind the times. Everyone from Red Hat toA >>Novell, Mandrake, etc. is working on making Linux not only more $ >>prevalent, but more user-friendly. >>I >>Read much lately about the upsurge in Linux, both on the desktop and in  >>the datacenter?  >  > E > Um, Dave ... VMS is already user friendly, has the best clustering, E > and actually has security ... why reinvent the wheel?  Just because B > everyone else is jumping off the cliff doesn't mean we are goingG > to ... the are leaders and followers ... the leaders will prevail ...   < Because most peoples desktops require applications and thats" not really a strength for OpenVMS.  = Most people also use a GUI based desktop and are used to that : metaphor, last time I looked the best that HP supported on; OpenVMS was CDE hardly what anyone would describe as a user 8 friendly UI and very clunky compared with what users are used to.  = Nor does OpenVMS have the basic plumbing that people require, 6 support Palms etc vi USB, support for USB flash cards,8 wireless, smart card authentication the list goes on and on.    Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 12:05:58 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) = Subject: Re: Linux on its way out - unless you are a geek ... 3 Message-ID: <Rl0yLMwqoMcd@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <c6637t$p6g$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > < > As I said earlier your point only serves to illustrate one8 > of the many OpenVMS woes, your tenacity only serves to% > make the illustration more telling.   >    Supporting old systems is not a woe in the customer's eyes.  0    Tenacity is not a woe in the customer's eyes.  A    You're always so telling when you have to resort to ad hominem     attacks.         ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:30:51 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>& Subject: Re: Media Handling Guidelines9 Message-ID: <c654er$7rhnt$1@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de>    Nic Clews wrote: > "Stanley F. Quayle" wrote: > - >>On 19 Apr 2004 at 9:56, Lee Courtney wrote:  >>I >>>This exercise is not focused on preservation of the information (bits) E >>>on the media, there's a separate project addressing that task, but B >>>making sure that a physical object it is not damaged when being >>>handled.  >>D >>I think you're going to find those tasks in conflict.  Keeping theC >>tapes readable requires that they be mounted periodically and run C >>from one end to the other.  That increases the risk that the tape  >>will be destroyed. >  > G > In audio circles, the practice of "baking" older tapes to dry out the F > binder (holding the oxide to the actual tape) is used to prolong theG > life of older tapes. A 'net search should find the details, but it is   > relevant to long term storage. >   G Many moons ago I did some VMS support for a company which did analogue  H (seismic data) to digital tape transcription. A major sideline of their 5 work was recovering old tapes which had deteriorated.   A "Baking" was a method used for recovering tapes in poor physical  G condition, and IIRC particularly poor tapes had to read within a short   time of the baking process.   H > I know when we did some data migrations from old media a while back we1 > were grateful for the error recovery of BACKUP.  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:01:45 +0100 , From: Adrian Birkett <aaa@notreallyhere.com>7 Subject: OOPS !! Was supposed to be a response !! <EOM> ' Message-ID: <c65ke1$13k$3@lore.csc.com>    >    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:24:25 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS 3 Message-ID: <rraqn2PTygJ2@eisner.encompasserve.org>   m In article <3ff5fed3.0404201319.48094ae9@posting.google.com>, goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) writes: @ > Also, the VNC server for UNIX doesn't really work the same wayA > that the VNC server for Windows does.  It effectively creates a @ > new X11 desktop for the connected process and doesn't actuallyA > take over an existing X11 login on the UNIX system.  Once I saw A > that, I didn't see any advantage of VNC over just having an X11 ' > server running on the Windows system.   B    You can share a single VNS service with multiple VNC desktops, @    allowing two or more remotely located users to work together.     @    Yes, it is different the first time the pointer moves without
    the mouse.   F    We use this daily with both UNIX and Windows servers using Windows,    MacOS, and VMS clients.   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:48:51 -0700- From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) # Subject: Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS = Message-ID: <3ff5fed3.0404210648.279ec5a2@posting.google.com>   c lewis@spyder.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) wrote in message news:<c64a1u$j4g$1@newslocal.mitre.org>...  > I > I'll tell you how I use VNC, and maybe you'll understand the advantage.  > H Thanks.  That makes sense, and it's not something I've ever had a reason
 to try to do.   F Still, unfortunately, the underlying code used by the VNC server isn'tI available for VMS, and even if it could be written, I don't have the time 	 to do it.    Hunter   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:27:37 +0200 , From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl># Subject: Re: PCanywhere and VAX VMS 9 Message-ID: <c66419$88f7u$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   < "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@goatley.com> schreef in bericht7 news:3ff5fed3.0404201317.7249a6c7@posting.google.com... 9 > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> wrote in message 5 news:<c60vlg$6mlch$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>...  > > > I > > > How about a VNC server for VMS?  That would be nice, though I don't $ > > > believe that it has been done. > > > 
 > > > -- glen  > > > K > > There's a VNC client for VMS. Looking at a Windows screen while sitting J > > behind an ancient VAXstation with a 19" monitor is weird enough for me :-) L > > The other way around would be nice though but Hunter Goatley didn't have any * > > plans when I asked him, two years ago. > > G > As Glen stated, the VNC server is significantly more complicated than I > the client.  The real obstacle is that the server makes use of UNIX and G > X11R6 calls that VMS and Motif just don't support (or didn't the last C > time I looked at it), making it pretty impractical to try to port  > it.  >  > Hunter > ------; > Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ ; > goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/   G Hello Hunter! That was it, the actual reason why you wouldn't do it was 
 forgotten.L Perhaps that the current X/Motif package comes closer to what you'd need butI even then I doubt it is worth the effort. In terms of users that actually 
 need it other ' than just running it once for effect...    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:40:34 +0300 - From: "Kari Keronen" <kari.keronen@digita.fi>  Subject: Re: RWINS9 Message-ID: <KFohc.3034$eb3.1964@reader1.news.jippii.net>   D "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> kirjoitti5 viestiss:4085DDA7.269DAE67@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net...  > Alex Daniels wrote:  > > 2 > > rules@telia.com (Esa Ryh?nen) wrote in message9 news:<101c337d.0404190015.661dca84@posting.google.com>... A > > > I have a process (running a Java app) stuck in RWINS state. K > > > I can't stop the process with STOP PROC/ID=xxxx and need to reboot to  > > > get rid of the process. > > > > Anybody know how to stop a process stuck in RWINS state? > > > 
 > > > Regards  > >  > > This may be worth a try... > >  > > STOP > >  > >   /IMAGE > > 7 > >         /IMAGE [/IDENTIFICATION=pid] [process-name]  > > I > >      Calls the $FORCEX system service to stop the image of the target D > >      process specified in the process id or process name that is@ > >      currently executing. The target process is not deleted. > > H > >      If you omit the /IDENTIFICATION qualifier and the process name,A > >      the STOP/IMAGE command is identical to the STOP command.  > J > This still depends on the process to exit the wait state and service the > image exit request.  > C > Remember: neither $DELPRC nor $FORCEX are something you do *TO* a H > process, they are requests you make of a process, and the process must$ > volunteer to honor those requests. > D > A process in a resource wait (RWxxx) state remains there until the. > resource being waited for becomes available. > ) and here is a short explanation of  RWINS . http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_7955.html   -Kari-   > -- > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:37:16 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> ! Subject: Re: Trying to run an EXE 8 Message-ID: <qdic80dv0oot930eh27kt5j4e4ma4sdgck@4ax.com>  H On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:06:53 -0400, "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> wrote:   >  >  >> -----Original Message----- 6 >> From: Aron Hoekstra [mailto:nullvalue@bbsmates.com]( >> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:32 PM >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  >> Subject: Trying to run an EXE >> >>H >> Hi, I'm new to OpenVMS... I'm trying to get an old application to runH >> under OpenVMS (emulated in simh)..  when i run the application, i putI >> a "@" before the exe file name, right?  well, when i try to execute it  >  >Wrong - use the run command:  >  >$run my.exe  O You can also define a symbol (alias in UNIX terms) for the executable file e.g.    $ MYEXE :== $MYEXE  5 then just typing MYEXE will do a RUN SYS$SYSTEM:MYEXE   O If the executable resides somewhere other than SYS$SYSTEM then you need to more $ explicitly specify the location e.g.  $ $ MYEXE :== $DEVICE:[DIRECTORY]MYEXE   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:48:19 -0400e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>g! Subject: Re: Trying to run an EXEl+ Message-ID: <40858C8F.E9F4D7F@teksavvy.com>e  * Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr wrote:P > Nope.  The "@" tells the shell (DCL) to execute a script - that's a text file.  M Technically, @ tells DCL to take its input from the specified file instead ofx$ the current input device (terminal).   > To run a program, trye >  > $ RUN NAME  I However, if the executable requires arguments, you need to define it as asM foreign command first (there are other ways available in more recent versions. of VMS).   name :== "$disk:[dir]name.exe"  S (the as first character indicates foreign command, remaining test is the file spec)eE if you are using a logical such as $DISK1 to point to the right disk, " you'll need $$disk1:[dir]name.exe)  $ Then, you can invoke the command as:  $ name arg1 arg2 arg3 arg4 etcn  M It is interesting that when the engineers designed the RUN command, that theyrN didn't consider adding a /PARAM=(arg1,arg2,arg3 etc) that would allow the same' functionality as with foreign commands.    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:21:03 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)>! Subject: Re: Trying to run an EXEC3 Message-ID: <F7oKXVGYyk2+@eisner.encompasserve.org>   k In article <64cdb04.0404201132.3806cb6b@posting.google.com>, nullvalue@bbsmates.com (Aron Hoekstra) writes: G > Hi, I'm new to OpenVMS... I'm trying to get an old application to runEG > under OpenVMS (emulated in simh)..  when i run the application, i puteH > a "@" before the exe file name, right?  well, when i try to execute it > i get the following error:  B    Not @ before an .exe, unless you're using unconventional naming    conventions.t      See "help run".   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:17:19 -0700, From: nullvalue@bbsmates.com (Aron Hoekstra)! Subject: Re: Trying to run an EXEr< Message-ID: <64cdb04.0404210617.17cc4129@posting.google.com>  E Wow, thanks everyone for your help!  I am really suprised at how many C people are willing to give me a hand, and i really appreciate it.. n Now I have one more problem...  E I tried using the run command, as suggested... and now i have another  error..e  2  $ $run agvctl% Error 2424 reported by process SYSTEMo7 in file $DISK1:[GCSBIII.AGVCTL]AGVCTL.C;192, at line 81V- %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHSEC, no such (global) section3- %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHSEC, no such (global) sectionh  $  tD I have some library files (OLB) that came with the executables..  isE there anything special I need to do to get those library's registered ? in the system?  Is there any way I could tell where that global & section is supposed to be initialized?  3 the line in the code which generates that error is:o  / init_error_exit(process,__FILE__,__LINE__,err);e   thanks   -aronl   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:03:47 -0400x# From: "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov>n! Subject: RE: Trying to run an EXEo: Message-ID: <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDGEIAFBAA.dallen@nist.gov>   > -----Original Message-----5 > From: Aron Hoekstra [mailto:nullvalue@bbsmates.com] * > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:17 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com # > Subject: Re: Trying to run an EXE  >( >=G > Wow, thanks everyone for your help!  I am really suprised at how many D > people are willing to give me a hand, and i really appreciate it..  H That's what this list is all about - PROMOTING VMS and sharing technicalP expertise. Not bashing management, OS's, people, politics, etc.  Your request isD a breath of fresh air in an otherwise putrid pot of FUD and blather.   DanR    > Now I have one more problem... >mG > I tried using the run command, as suggested... and now i have anothere	 > error..p >0 >  $ $run agvctl' > Error 2424 reported by process SYSTEM 9 > in file $DISK1:[GCSBIII.AGVCTL]AGVCTL.C;192, at line 81 / > %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHSEC, no such (global) sectionm/ > %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHSEC, no such (global) sectiona >  $ > F > I have some library files (OLB) that came with the executables..  isG > there anything special I need to do to get those library's registeredoA > in the system?  Is there any way I could tell where that globalc( > section is supposed to be initialized? > 5 > the line in the code which generates that error is:t >v1 > init_error_exit(process,__FILE__,__LINE__,err);n >t > thanks >e > -aronX >i >t   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:23:23 +0200o, From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>! Subject: Re: Trying to run an EXEm9 Message-ID: <c663pb$8gsg7$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>r  ; "Aron Hoekstra" <nullvalue@bbsmates.com> schreef in berichtm6 news:64cdb04.0404210617.17cc4129@posting.google.com...G > Wow, thanks everyone for your help!  I am really suprised at how manyrD > people are willing to give me a hand, and i really appreciate it..  > Now I have one more problem... >vG > I tried using the run command, as suggested... and now i have anotheri	 > error..s >o >  $ $run agvctl' > Error 2424 reported by process SYSTEMl9 > in file $DISK1:[GCSBIII.AGVCTL]AGVCTL.C;192, at line 81b/ > %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHSEC, no such (global) sectionp/ > %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHSEC, no such (global) sectione >  $ >F > I have some library files (OLB) that came with the executables..  isG > there anything special I need to do to get those library's registered A > in the system?  Is there any way I could tell where that globalo( > section is supposed to be initialized? >,5 > the line in the code which generates that error is:, > 1 > init_error_exit(process,__FILE__,__LINE__,err);g >u > thanks >d > -aronc  H Object library files contain .OBJ files, i.e. compiler output files. The linker uses .OBJH files to build an .EXE from. Once the linker is done that's it. Run time libraries (.EXE's H themselves) are called while running the program. RTL's may be installed	 using the E INSTALL command, usually because it helps performance and you can addl
 privileges more specifically.L A global section contains data. Could you post the relevant code around line 81?e   Hans   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 17:10:26 +0200' From: huber@mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)e! Subject: Re: Trying to run an EXE + Message-ID: <ZNoYbc7F9QAe@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>g  k In article <64cdb04.0404210617.17cc4129@posting.google.com>, nullvalue@bbsmates.com (Aron Hoekstra) writes:b > G > I tried using the run command, as suggested... and now i have anotherD	 > error..F >  $ $run agvctl' > Error 2424 reported by process SYSTEMd9 > in file $DISK1:[GCSBIII.AGVCTL]AGVCTL.C;192, at line 81t/ > %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHSEC, no such (global) sectionr/ > %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHSEC, no such (global) section  >  eF > I have some library files (OLB) that came with the executables..  isG > there anything special I need to do to get those library's registered A > in the system?  Is there any way I could tell where that globalA( > section is supposed to be initialized?5 > the line in the code which generates that error is:a1 > init_error_exit(process,__FILE__,__LINE__,err);y  9 This line just shows the error reporting, the interestingL9 part is before, where it branches on a condition to call   init_error_exit.: You don't have to register an object library, it it were a> shared library (name.EXE), then it has to be either INSTALLed,% or a logical name has to point to it.u  0 The program presumably tries to map to a global A section (a (named) shared memory region), which it either creates 8 in code before, or expects to be created in advance by a= cooperating process (a detached or sub-process started beforecB agvctl ?). Is Your agvctl.exe the only piece , or is there another. .exe, or a .com file starting the program(s) ?   -- s>    Joseph "Sepp" Huber, Muenchen   http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:55:57 GMTe! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>H? Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Itanium is highly profitablee8 Message-ID: <n4jc80h6bmijogjggtnqugqpl9gb34pckh@4ax.com>  E On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:21:02 +0100, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy . <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote:  5 >In otherwords you have ported Apache to OpenVMS, now 4 >why do you think that your example doesn't actually/ >create much value in the OpenSource community.o  K You chose to ignore the first part of my paragraph about the Apache example   R >> The way the Open Source movement works is that you fix, improve & adapt to yourS >> particular platform & then feed back any necessary changes into the source pool.   P That is contributing to the Open Source movement. It's a collaborative activity.   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azuri   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:47:55 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> ? Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Itanium is highly profitabler0 Message-ID: <c65jgt$jqh$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Nigel Barker wrote:   G > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:21:02 +0100, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancym0 > <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote: >  > 6 >>In otherwords you have ported Apache to OpenVMS, now5 >>why do you think that your example doesn't actually:0 >>create much value in the OpenSource community. >  > M > You chose to ignore the first part of my paragraph about the Apache example! >   , I ignored it because its not a good example. > R >>>The way the Open Source movement works is that you fix, improve & adapt to yourS >>>particular platform & then feed back any necessary changes into the source pool.  >  > R > That is contributing to the Open Source movement. It's a collaborative activity. > F So what use will the OpenVMS code be to the wider OpenSource community@ running Apache on say HP-UX ? or Linux or Solaris ? Answer none.  D Sorry all you have donated is some code necessary to make Apache runA properly on OpenVMS which you hope will leverage sales of OpenVMSo3 systems this hardly counts in the scheme of things.   C Sun helps port Apache to Solaris but I would never claim that doingr; the port constitues a donation to the OpenSource community.u   Regardsh Andrew Harrisont   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:31:18 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)n? Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Itanium is highly profitablem3 Message-ID: <i6YfifLnBhI3@eisner.encompasserve.org>h  l In article <c65jgt$jqh$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > E > Sun helps port Apache to Solaris but I would never claim that doingu= > the port constitues a donation to the OpenSource community.c  D    Right!  The availability of OpenOffice on Solaris is in no way to3    be interpretted as having any advantage for Sun!r   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:27:40 GMTs! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>-? Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Itanium is highly profitabler8 Message-ID: <8rvc809d96e7sb99jn06p7v84nra80gktk@4ax.com>  3 On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:47:55 +0100, Andrew HarrisonD* <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> wrote:   >Nigel Barker wrote:G >So what use will the OpenVMS code be to the wider OpenSource communityNA >running Apache on say HP-UX ? or Linux or Solaris ? Answer none.e >zE >Sorry all you have donated is some code necessary to make Apache runiB >properly on OpenVMS which you hope will leverage sales of OpenVMS4 >systems this hardly counts in the scheme of things. > D >Sun helps port Apache to Solaris but I would never claim that doing< >the port constitues a donation to the OpenSource community.  P Who said anything about donation except you? Bug fixing & general improvement ofK Open Source software a part of the port to your platform is the name of the L game. That's why the changes get fed back into the general source pool. As IK said before it's all about collaboration not gifts from beneficent hardware  vendors.   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azurn   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 07:17:54 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)o8 Subject: Re: Using Windows XP hyperterminal with OpenVMS3 Message-ID: <yQ2LmpbbzIje@eisner.encompasserve.org>n  y In article <4085DC34.F4C76CAD@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> writes:  > E > Dunno 'bout PuTTY, but in R/2 and R/4, the F13 through F20 keys are  > Shift+F1 thru +F10.   E    That works for lot's of emulators, but on my VT F20 is simply F20!o   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:29:47 GMT-! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>08 Subject: Re: Using Windows XP hyperterminal with OpenVMS8 Message-ID: <650d80hf9lmad5t1ct5d6r45clbb458fj6@4ax.com>  K On 21 Apr 2004 07:17:54 -0600, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob  Koehler) wrote:6  z >In article <4085DC34.F4C76CAD@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> writes: >>  F >> Dunno 'bout PuTTY, but in R/2 and R/4, the F13 through F20 keys are >> Shift+F1 thru +F10. > F >   That works for lot's of emulators, but on my VT F20 is simply F20!  P I always like to use Keaterm where you can display a little LK keyboard with allM the correct buttons like 'Do'. It's particularly useful with a limited laptopn	 keyboard.o     -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'AzurM   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:20:06 GMTc" From: "Joe Silagi" <joesi@wrq.com>8 Subject: Re: Using Windows XP hyperterminal with OpenVMS; Message-ID: <Waxhc.86813$vn.251125@sea-read.news.verio.net>j  K "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote in messagem0 news:4085DB82.6C36C84F@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net... > DL Phillips wrote: > >IG > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> wrote inn: message news:<40849333.19D14F25@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>... > > > DL Phillips wrote: > > > > [snip]J > > > > Reflection also has "Hot Spot" definitions and a Visual Basic like6 > > > > interface that a properly designed application > > >n# > > > ...or virus, trojan, etc. ...e > > >t > >aF > > Explain, please. Oh, you refer to "Visual Basic like". Yes. I see.G > > Really, Reflection doesn't make a system more or less vulnerable to18 > > virus or trojan or worm or any other security issue, >n > Well, yes and no.H >tH > No, it does not increase the PC's vulnerability. Windows is so full of* > holes it doesn't have room for any more. >rB > Yes, it adds a potential doorway into the VMS system in that nowH > cracking attempts can be automated by depositing a .RBS file on the PCJ > and invoking it. .RBS is associated with R/2 or R/4, and well, there you
 > have it.  K Using the Reflection Profiler utility it is possible to selectively disabledL the ability to run RCL, RB, or VBA scripts within Reflection.  This includesC host-initiated Reflection scripts as well.   In the last release of(I Reflection (version 11.0) we have added similar support via Windows GroupcE Policies.   Similarly, the Profiler and Group Policies can be used togI configure Reflection so that only secure, (ie, encrypted) connections area allowed.   Reflection tech specs:: http://www.wrq.com/products/reflection/win/ruov/specs.html   HTH,  
 Joe Silagi WRQ/Reflection   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 11:55:27 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)e8 Subject: Re: Using Windows XP hyperterminal with OpenVMS3 Message-ID: <3dQRS3LeUEwg@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  \ In article <650d80hf9lmad5t1ct5d6r45clbb458fj6@4ax.com>, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> writes: > R > I always like to use Keaterm where you can display a little LK keyboard with allO > the correct buttons like 'Do'. It's particularly useful with a limited laptopi > keyboard.w  I    Exceed has that, but then that's the only preconfigured provision for  "    using the keys in that display.  H    I really don't want to stop and grab the mouse as a replacement for a    single keystroke.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:08:09 +0300-4 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com>+ Subject: Re: VAX Macro language and file...i& Message-ID: <408639F9.2472D643@hp.com>   Crepitus wrote:y >  > Hello F > I would like to create a small program to see how to use file in VAX > Macro Language.<F > I'd like to open a file and read it line by line, print each line on0 > screen and then close the file for the moment.@ > Could you give me some documentation to create such a program? > Thanks  > This would'nt be some sort of school assignment, now would it?   Mike --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that.a? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*eF Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----d Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------c   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:06:55 +0200e9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>m+ Subject: Re: VAX Macro language and file...e' Message-ID: <408671EF.5C3B60CD@aaa.com>O   Mike Rechtman wrote: >  > Crepitus wrote:. > >e	 > > HellorH > > I would like to create a small program to see how to use file in VAX > > Macro Language.eH > > I'd like to open a file and read it line by line, print each line on2 > > screen and then close the file for the moment.B > > Could you give me some documentation to create such a program?
 > > Thanks > @ > This would'nt be some sort of school assignment, now would it?  " 10-20 years ago maybe, but now ???  	 Jan-Erik.e   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:18:53 GMTo0 From: glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu>+ Subject: Re: VAX Macro language and file...". Message-ID: <12yhc.40164$yD1.115384@attbi_s54>   Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:u   (someone wrote)s  @ >>This would'nt be some sort of school assignment, now would it?  $ > 10-20 years ago maybe, but now ???  # Maybe for a computer history class.e   -- glen0   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:57:49 +0100m, From: Adrian Birkett <aaa@notreallyhere.com>+ Subject: VB program to put to a remote node$' Message-ID: <c65k6l$13k$1@lore.csc.com>r   James,  E Thought you might like to have a look at this simple VB program. You .D require a command button, the INET control and a listbox on a blank F form. You can modify as required to GET a file from the remote system.   Regards,   Ade    Private Sub Command2_Click()     With Inet1        e         .UserName = "your_user"s#         .Password = "your_password"t          .RemoteHost = "nodename"         .Protocol = icFTPw    t         On Error GoTo handler +         .Execute , "PUT c:\trash\a.txt a.a"i                 Do While .StillExecuting             DoEvents         Loop    l     End With     Inet1.Cancel    h     Exit Sub      handler:H     MsgBox "Error: " & Err.Number & vbCrLf & Err.Description, vbOKOnly,  "FTP Error"u     Resume Nextl    s End Subh  6 Private Sub Inet1_StateChanged(ByVal State As Integer)     Dim xx(12) As String    eE     xx(0) = "No State": xx(1) = "Resolving Host Name": xx(2) = "Host e Resolved": xx(3) = "Connecting"vE     xx(4) = "Connected": xx(5) = "Sending Request": xx(6) = "Request  # Sent": xx(7) = "Receiving Response"mC     xx(8) = "Response Received": xx(9) = "Disconnecting": xx(10) =   "Disconnected"I     xx(11) = "ERROR: " & Inet1.ResponseCode & " -- " & Inet1.ResponseInfot!     xx(12) = "Response Completed"     s+     List1.AddItem Time() & ": " & xx(State)     a End Subn   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2004 06:21:42 -0600B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)B Subject: VMS in education, was: Re: VAX Macro language and file...3 Message-ID: <Kp$yjzCxMaf5@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  ] In article <408639F9.2472D643@hp.com>, Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com> writes:. > Crepitus wrote:V >> u >> HelloG >> I would like to create a small program to see how to use file in VAXF >> Macro Language.G >> I'd like to open a file and read it line by line, print each line onh1 >> screen and then close the file for the moment. A >> Could you give me some documentation to create such a program?-	 >> Thanks- > @ > This would'nt be some sort of school assignment, now would it? >   @ Interesting comment. Is VMS still been taught in any educational establishments in Israel ?  : This doesn't seem to be the case in the rest of the world.  G Unlike some newsgroups I read, where spotting homework assignments is arK sport, I would actually like to see (because of what that would imply) someV3 VMS related homework assignment questions in c.o.v.b  L Note to any students: That doesn't mean that you will get your homework done for you however! :-)   Simon.   -- tB Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       P SCO: Proudly pushing Microsoft down to #2 on the list of most disliked companies   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:26:27 +0100e9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com>a5 Subject: Re: [OT] An interesting view of Linux's cost 0 Message-ID: <c65i8l$jdc$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Hans Vlems wrote:t  ; > "Paul Sture" <nospam@sture.homeip.net> schreef in bericht 5 > news:c60svh$6k0a8$1@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de...  >  >>John Smith wrote:m >>I >>>http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/egYw0GMMYy0G6p0CUFe0ADt >>>  >>>YMMVe >>>u >>E >>Interesting given my experience with Linux. Back with SuSE 7.n, theeH >>networking was not only a pain to configure, but when I added an extraI >>NIC (identical), it wouldn't see both. Solution: get a couple of new el F >>cheapo NICs, wnd they coexisted happily. I was quite happy with that3 >>distribution once I'd got it configured properly.n >>J >>I finally upgraded to SuSE 9.0 last year, and that was a mistake. On oneJ >>PC, the graphics came out so tiny they were unreadable, and didn't offerJ >>the means to change the resolution. On the PC with twin NICs, I couldn'tH >>get either to talk, so I was off to buy another cheap NIC. On that PC,F >>it would often "lose" both sound and randomly start interpreting the- >>keyboard as German instead of Swiss German.e >>B >>I also found the SuSE 9.0 installation somewhat too dumbed down.H >>Whenever I tried to get into "expert mode" it really tried to dissuade >>me from doing so.w >>F >>OK, I could no doubt have coaxed them both into life eventually, butD >>once I'd got OpenOffice running on my Mac, I simply lost interest. >>
 >>YMMV etc >> > L > On a similar note: I'd been running RedHat 7.1 quite wel on a PC, standardC > configuration. Even Windows2000 installs without a problem on it.eD > The Audigy soundcard was not supported but that did not bother me.@ > RedHat 8 did support the soundcard but messed up the graphics.L > RedHat 9 offered proper graphics (KDE) but the soundcard no longer worked.- > After that I gave the diskspace to Windows.i >   C Strange, I am running JDS (based on SuSE enterprise Desktop) on tworA PC's a Dell Lattitude and a Evesham box. In both cases I have hadw@ no issues at all with either sound or graphics though I did need/ to download the NVIDIA drivers for the Evesham.p  B The Evesham is less than a year old so its relatively new the Dell	 is older.g  A Both the systems NIC's also work as do USB FireWire etc. The onlya@ thing that doesn't work currently is the Dells Winmodem which is> unlikely to be fixed and I cannot change the resolution of the> Dells display using the hot keys which is a feature of the ATI driver for xFree.   = Everything else works remarkably well, DVD reader, CD writer,o# USB flash cards, Palm USB sync etc.    Regardse Andrew HarrisontM > Yesterday I upgraded another PC from RedHat 7.2 to 9. KDE lost all contentshM > in the toolbar, all it shows are cog icons. I've got several books on Linux-
 > and need1 > them all, often and not always finding answers.<L > Linux is a great operating system if you happen to like building them. Not > sure at what5 > point in time they should allow users on it though.S >  > Hans >  >    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.221 ************************