1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 29 Apr 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 236       Contents: As seen on the ITRC forum  Re: As seen on the ITRC forum  Re: Binary file issues7 Re: Call to send() fails with errno=2, vaxc$errno=98962  Re: crash of VAXstation 4000/60  crash of VAXstation 4000/60  Re: crash of VAXstation 4000/60 . Dump existing license key info before rebuild?2 Re: Dump existing license key info before rebuild?2 Re: Dump existing license key info before rebuild?2 Re: Dump existing license key info before rebuild?/ file directory sorted by modification date/time > Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ...> Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ... IEEE 802.1p support  install TCPIP V5.4 Re: install TCPIP V5.4 Re: install TCPIP V5.4 Re: IP TOS support Re: LAT to TCPIP using sys$qiow  Re: LAT to TCPIP using sys$qiow  Re: LAT to TCPIP using sys$qiow  Re: LAT to TCPIP using sys$qiow  Marillion Comeback Re: Newbye quetion Oracle statement of direction ! RE: Oracle statement of direction ! Re: Oracle statement of direction & Re: OT: Failure of Windows good for HP& Re: OT: Failure of Windows good for HP& Re: OT: Failure of Windows good for HP& RE: OT: Failure of Windows good for HP strange disk status  Re: strange disk status  Re: strange disk status  Re: strange disk status  Re: strange disk status B Re: SYS$SCRATCH, logicals pointing to disks, cluster-wide logicals: Re: TCPIP 5.3, VAX VMS 7.3: how did this mail get through? TCPIP SMTP distribution lists  Re: telnet in batch  Tomcat / Java / process quotas" Re: Tomcat / Java / process quotas  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:49:18 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> " Subject: As seen on the ITRC forum, Message-ID: <g4ydnVf_3ptAuw3dRVn-uQ@igs.net>  J http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=68036    H "  I read the article (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9835) when it7 came out and re-read it upon finding this thread today.   J I did not agree with the article when it was published but I do agree with it now.   H I work in Charlotte, NC which is the #2 financial center in the USA (NewK York is #1). Along with numerous small and medium banks, two banks here are  ranked in the US top 5.   F Both of these banks run huge financial applications and in one bank, aG particular financial app is tied for #1 in the USA and ranked as in the  world's top 5.  L I worked for Digital in both VMS pre-sales and as a VMS performance/capacityL planning consultant for a long time. I left Digital to work at a bank (turnsI out literally one-third of the former Digital office is working at one of C these two banks). When an upgrade need came along Digital sales was K reasonably responsive; later Compaq sales had to be asked; and for the most @ part begging was, past tense, the norm to get HP sales involved.  E Presently, one of these banks (maybe both?) is looking at a large VMS F upgrade and sales is, present tense, not interested (I don't mean "notK interested" as in being dramatic, I mean "not interested" as in regional HP J sales is encouraging other HP platforms). The application vendor no longer? promotes VMS and is gently pushing for another HP platform too.   L I have a few more things I could say, but I think you can understand what isI going on. I look at the reality that regional HP sales is not neutral and L likewise the app vendor is moving away from VMS. While promotion of other HPI platforms over VMS might be a US southeast situation, I can probably make I the case that, at best, the northeast is neutral on VMS. So the way I see L it, neutrality is probably a slow cancer on VMS due in part to the press andJ HP sales bias/press against VMS is a fast cancer in the southeast. Just my1 opinion in my little neck of the financial woods.   B I don't think too many of the issues cited in this post and in theK originating article are all that relevant; many of the issues discussed are F symptoms. Forget about the lack of OpenVMS advertising being an issue,I forget about VMS profitability, forget about VMS technical excellence and F security, forget about the road maps. Very simply, VMS is a vehicle, aC bridge if you will, to other HP platforms -- at least within the #2  financial center in the US.   H I am pretty much a VMS bigot (actually TOPS-10 ;-) and I don't mind thisK reputation and my peers on the other platforms accept this and even respect L it. I take it as a complement to be called a VMS bigot and hope to keep thisD "honor" the rest of my life. I have nothing to apologize for; I haveL achieved several financial industry technical/technology firsts; and it is aI blast to be associated with some of the best VMS and technology people in  the country.  L But reality bites. From where I stand, to correct the HP VMS situation wouldH take an HP culture change. That is the central issue. As much as I don'tL like it, VMS cannot recover from this non-technical hurdle. Sad, very sad. "    I Sue, when is Gorham going to take a 2x4 to the HP regional sales manager: K "......I mean "not interested" as in regional HP sales is encouraging other  HP platforms"??    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:08:08 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> & Subject: Re: As seen on the ITRC forum2 Message-ID: <40902B44.1F72B4E2@firstdbasource.com>   Calling John Smith...   4 Could you contact me -- contact info can be found at7 http://www.firstdbasource.com (mobile is probably best)   ' Michael Austin - formerly of Charlotte.    John Smith wrote:   L > http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=68036 > J > "  I read the article (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9835) when it9 > came out and re-read it upon finding this thread today.  > L > I did not agree with the article when it was published but I do agree with	 > it now.  > J > I work in Charlotte, NC which is the #2 financial center in the USA (NewM > York is #1). Along with numerous small and medium banks, two banks here are  > ranked in the US top 5.  > H > Both of these banks run huge financial applications and in one bank, aI > particular financial app is tied for #1 in the USA and ranked as in the  > world's top 5. > N > I worked for Digital in both VMS pre-sales and as a VMS performance/capacityN > planning consultant for a long time. I left Digital to work at a bank (turnsK > out literally one-third of the former Digital office is working at one of E > these two banks). When an upgrade need came along Digital sales was M > reasonably responsive; later Compaq sales had to be asked; and for the most B > part begging was, past tense, the norm to get HP sales involved. > G > Presently, one of these banks (maybe both?) is looking at a large VMS H > upgrade and sales is, present tense, not interested (I don't mean "notM > interested" as in being dramatic, I mean "not interested" as in regional HP L > sales is encouraging other HP platforms). The application vendor no longerA > promotes VMS and is gently pushing for another HP platform too.  > N > I have a few more things I could say, but I think you can understand what isK > going on. I look at the reality that regional HP sales is not neutral and N > likewise the app vendor is moving away from VMS. While promotion of other HPK > platforms over VMS might be a US southeast situation, I can probably make K > the case that, at best, the northeast is neutral on VMS. So the way I see N > it, neutrality is probably a slow cancer on VMS due in part to the press andL > HP sales bias/press against VMS is a fast cancer in the southeast. Just my3 > opinion in my little neck of the financial woods.  > D > I don't think too many of the issues cited in this post and in theM > originating article are all that relevant; many of the issues discussed are H > symptoms. Forget about the lack of OpenVMS advertising being an issue,K > forget about VMS profitability, forget about VMS technical excellence and H > security, forget about the road maps. Very simply, VMS is a vehicle, aE > bridge if you will, to other HP platforms -- at least within the #2  > financial center in the US.  > J > I am pretty much a VMS bigot (actually TOPS-10 ;-) and I don't mind thisM > reputation and my peers on the other platforms accept this and even respect N > it. I take it as a complement to be called a VMS bigot and hope to keep thisF > "honor" the rest of my life. I have nothing to apologize for; I haveN > achieved several financial industry technical/technology firsts; and it is aK > blast to be associated with some of the best VMS and technology people in  > the country. > N > But reality bites. From where I stand, to correct the HP VMS situation wouldJ > take an HP culture change. That is the central issue. As much as I don'tN > like it, VMS cannot recover from this non-technical hurdle. Sad, very sad. " > K > Sue, when is Gorham going to take a 2x4 to the HP regional sales manager: M > "......I mean "not interested" as in regional HP sales is encouraging other  > HP platforms"??    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:39:01 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: Binary file issues 6 Message-ID: <40904EA5.8DB693EE@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Lorin Ricker wrote:  > A > (I'm posting this on behalf of Dean Woodward.  -- Lorin Ricker)  > F > A few weeks ago, the following issue came up and we're stumped as to > what's going on: > H > A UUENCODED file is received by a VMS host; UUDECODE is called and the5 > output (a JPEG image) is stored in the file system.  > G > This file is retrieved one of three ways: by a custom application, in E > which the VMS machine UUENCODES it and transmits it again; via WASD 4 > web services, or directly from a PC via PATHWORKS. > @ > We noticed that UUDECODE stores the file (binary, remember) asG > STREAM_LF. That didn't seem right, so we "fixed" it by converting all E > existing images to FIX:512, and adding code to convert new files to < > FIX:512 as they're recieved. Nothing's been right since... > [snip]B > Any suggestions gratefully appreciated; fixing broken images now > consumes 1/3 of my workday...    One suggestion - CUT IT OUT!  E The output of UUENCODE is text, not binary. Undo what you did and and # least you'll be back to square one.   H DUMP is your friend when you're not sure what a file contains. HELP DUMP1 is your friend when you want to learn about DUMP.   ( So, ... (should I say it? Aw, why not!)    Go take a dump!    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:58:52 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> @ Subject: Re: Call to send() fails with errno=2, vaxc$errno=989622 Message-ID: <40902919.F4E64D5D@firstdbasource.com>  K check to make sure there are no errors in the process log file.  I have had I problems after rebooting and forgetting to properly define a logical name M causing a non-interactive process to fail when reading SYLOGIN or the process 
 LOGIN.COM.  ; try turning on alarms to see what file it is failing on....   " $set audit/alarm/enab=file=failure   and REPLY/ENABLE   Michael Austin   Warren Spencer wrote:    > Hi folks,  > M > I've got some socket misbehavior I can't figure out, and I'm hoping someone & > can point me in the right direction. > I > On OpenVMS Alpha 7.2-1, using the DEC C V6.0-001, I've created a socket  > with:  > A >         if ((MySocket = socket (AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM,0)) == -1)  >           { error handling } > 5 > I fill in the socket structure and issue a connect:  > K >         if ((connect (MySocket, (struct sockaddr *) &TargetSocket, sizeof  > (TargetSocket))) != 0) >         { error handling } > & > And later I issue multiple send()'s: > I >         if  ((*pBufLength = send (pSocket, pBuffer, *pBufLength, 0)) !=  > LocalBLen) >         { error handling } > I > The 2nd send() call fails with errno=2 (%NONAME-E-NOMSG, Message number > > 00000002), and vaxc$errno=98962 (%RMS-E-FNF, file not found) > I > Curiously, the application works fine when run by an interactive user - M > this failure occurs only when the application is run as a detached process. F > I don't see these error codes documented in the send() documentationJ > (http://h71000.www7.hp.com/commercial/c/docs/5763p067.html#index_x_1839) > J > Debugging the detached version of the application is a little tricky, soI > I'm hoping someone has seen this before and can shorten my debug cycle.  >  > Many thanks, >  > ws >  > Warren Spencer > Senior Software Engineer > The Associated Press > wspencer at ap dot org   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:53:02 +0200 , From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>( Subject: Re: crash of VAXstation 4000/609 Message-ID: <c6p275$er0m4$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   L "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>1 schreef in bericht news:c6ovcm$qea$3@online.de... H > After having run reliably for years, my VAXstation 4000/60 has crashedA > again, after having done so a week ago as well.  I have several J > questions, hoping to collect advice here to investigate the problem when > I am back on site in 9 days. > 3 > Why does it not RESTART even if HALT is set to 1?  > E > Several months ago, I got in the habit of switching off the console I > terminal (a VT320) when away for a long time.  During that time, things J > DID reboot OK (due to a power outage, I think).  However, could there beF > other circumstances in which the console terminal being switched off) > could prevent the machine from booting?  > J > Last weekend, when I switched the terminal on, I saw the console prompt,H > and it booted straight away from there.  If it is still down when I amG > at the terminal again (I might get someone to reboot it, since I feel G > better with 3 nodes in the cluster), is there anything I should do AT 2 > THE CONSOLE PROMPT to get some more information? > I > Is there any hope of collecting information from the other two nodes in  > the cluster? > D > After the system is back up, what are ALL the ways I should try to# > collect information on the crash?  >  Phillip   J the consoles of my VAXstations and Alpha's are connected to com ports on aI PC. The pc runs Reflection to connect to those ports. When I still used a ? Citoh terminal, two of my 4000-60's immediately crashed as soon H as the Citoh was switched off. IIRC that is the result of a break signal$ detected by the VAXstation on OPA0:.J If this is what happens then you won't find anything useful in a dumpfile.   Hans   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:07:02 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)$ Subject: crash of VAXstation 4000/60$ Message-ID: <c6ovcm$qea$3@online.de>  G After having run reliably for years, my VAXstation 4000/60 has crashed  @ again, after having done so a week ago as well.  I have several I questions, hoping to collect advice here to investigate the problem when   I am back on site in 9 days.  1 Why does it not RESTART even if HALT is set to 1?   D Several months ago, I got in the habit of switching off the console H terminal (a VT320) when away for a long time.  During that time, things I DID reboot OK (due to a power outage, I think).  However, could there be  E other circumstances in which the console terminal being switched off  ' could prevent the machine from booting?   I Last weekend, when I switched the terminal on, I saw the console prompt,  G and it booted straight away from there.  If it is still down when I am  F at the terminal again (I might get someone to reboot it, since I feel F better with 3 nodes in the cluster), is there anything I should do AT 0 THE CONSOLE PROMPT to get some more information?  H Is there any hope of collecting information from the other two nodes in  the cluster?  C After the system is back up, what are ALL the ways I should try to  ! collect information on the crash?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:54:39 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>( Subject: Re: crash of VAXstation 4000/606 Message-ID: <4090524F.4FE54F39@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  > H > After having run reliably for years, my VAXstation 4000/60 has crashedA > again, after having done so a week ago as well.  I have several J > questions, hoping to collect advice here to investigate the problem when > I am back on site in 9 days. > 3 > Why does it not RESTART even if HALT is set to 1?  > E > Several months ago, I got in the habit of switching off the console I > terminal (a VT320) when away for a long time.  During that time, things J > DID reboot OK (due to a power outage, I think).  However, could there beF > other circumstances in which the console terminal being switched off) > could prevent the machine from booting?  > J > Last weekend, when I switched the terminal on, I saw the console prompt,H > and it booted straight away from there.  If it is still down when I amG > at the terminal again (I might get someone to reboot it, since I feel G > better with 3 nodes in the cluster), is there anything I should do AT 2 > THE CONSOLE PROMPT to get some more information?  F I should think that one of the EXAMINE commands might yield some info,' if you knew what to examine. (I don't.)   I > Is there any hope of collecting information from the other two nodes in  > the cluster?  8 Look for messages on their consoles or in the OPCOM log.  D > After the system is back up, what are ALL the ways I should try to# > collect information on the crash?   H If it was a real crash, ANA/CRASH would tell you whether it left a valid dump.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:46:10 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> 7 Subject: Dump existing license key info before rebuild? 0 Message-ID: <1090k2ban603ma6@corp.supernews.com>  6 I have a rather old Alpha that needs to rebuild badly.  9 Is it possible to dump the currently loaded license info, ; rebuild the system disk from the VMS CD and then reload the  dumped license information?   ; Or do I have to track down the original License PAKs (major  job ... maybe even impossible)  ; The SCSNODE name and SCSID number will be changing with the % rebuild, if this makes any diffeence.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:01:06 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>; Subject: Re: Dump existing license key info before rebuild? 6 Message-ID: <409053D2.21999829@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Z wrote: > 8 > I have a rather old Alpha that needs to rebuild badly. > ; > Is it possible to dump the currently loaded license info, = > rebuild the system disk from the VMS CD and then reload the  > dumped license information?  > = > Or do I have to track down the original License PAKs (major   > job ... maybe even impossible) > = > The SCSNODE name and SCSID number will be changing with the ' > rebuild, if this makes any diffeence.   F Makes no difference. Just save the LMF$LICENSE.LDB file - should be inF the SYS$SYSTEM path, copy it to the rebuilt system disk and do LICENSE LOAD (or reboot).    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:49:52 -0400 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> ; Subject: Re: Dump existing license key info before rebuild? 1 Message-ID: <8didnQvc_rjcwg3d4p2dnA@adelphia.com>    Z wrote:8 > I have a rather old Alpha that needs to rebuild badly. > ; > Is it possible to dump the currently loaded license info, = > rebuild the system disk from the VMS CD and then reload the  > dumped license information?   C Use the $license issue command.  Be aware that it will disable the   license keys it is used on.   H Or as David has pointed out, you can save off the license database file.  = > The SCSNODE name and SCSID number will be changing with the ' > rebuild, if this makes any diffeence.   ; If any paks need to know about the SCSNODE and you use the  I backup/restore of the license database file, you will need to modify the  .   registered paks to have the new information.  G It would be a good idea to make sure that you know where your original  I license paks are.  They have an order number on them which is almost the   only way to track them.    -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:50:37 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> ; Subject: Re: Dump existing license key info before rebuild? 0 Message-ID: <1090nr59p8k2icb@corp.supernews.com>   David J. Dachtera wrote:H > Makes no difference. Just save the LMF$LICENSE.LDB file - should be inH > the SYS$SYSTEM path, copy it to the rebuilt system disk and do LICENSE > LOAD (or reboot).    Super.  Thanks.    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Apr 2004 17:44:47 -07001 From: usenet_vms@lehrerfamily.com (Joshua Lehrer) 8 Subject: file directory sorted by modification date/time= Message-ID: <477e0934.0404281644.75cb29b6@posting.google.com>   A What's the most efficient way to get a listing of files in a very - large directory, sorted by modification time?   3 Either a DCL or C solution is fine for my purposes.    Thanks,   
 joshua lehrer  factset research systems NYSE:FDS   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:31:37 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>G Subject: Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ... - Message-ID: <87hdv4eyye.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   , "Karsten Nyblad" <nospam@nospam.com> writes:  @ > "David J McKenzie" <david@mckenziefamily.biz> wrote in message? > news:408fad75$0$47041$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...  >> Paul Repacholi wrote:G >> > Given that there is some number of flaws in the code, and a person J >> > looking at it has p chance of seeing the bug, there in (1-p)^n chanceK >> > of the bug being not found. For large n, even if p is very small, that I >> > gets close to 1. p will also vary greatly with who is looking at it, A >> > but it does not matter! The ^n term will conquer in the end.  >> >. >> > Here is hoping I have not screwed this... >>0 >> the chance of a bug not being found is p, p<1 >>F >> the chance of n people independently not finding the the bug is p^n >>E >> the chance of the bug being found is 1-p^n which approaches 1 as n  > increases  >>A >> (1-p)^n grows smaller as n grows larger (1-p) < 1 by defintion  >> >> but we get the point :-)  > J > I doubt you can use such simple math on that problem.  Your mathematical > model ignores that:   C See above, I specifically addressed this. If you do not understand, ? find some one who can do arithmetic to demonstraight it to you.   H I'll repeat, for large(ish) n, the value of p is almost irelevent as the) function will converge for any no-zero p.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Apr 2004 15:42:07 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) G Subject: Re: How to turn linux into VMS - memory refresher for Dave ... 3 Message-ID: <jAhmh03pizPM@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <c6oq6c$2ggh$1@news.cybercity.dk>, "Karsten Nyblad" <nospam@nospam.com> writes: > K > And Bob K claimed in <KsPWa8jYe286@eisner.encompasserve.org> that VMS has   > had security logs since 1984.   E    Does it really matter if I had it a few years later and UNIX STILL     HASN'T GOT IT?    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Apr 2004 14:59:56 -0700- From: elementyl@hotmail.com (James Wilkinson)  Subject: IEEE 802.1p support= Message-ID: <e2ac4c66.0404281359.69658efb@posting.google.com>   F My question about modifying the TOS field in an IP packet was met withE a deafening silence :-) so...  OpenVMS now lists support for at least 8 one Ethernet NIC that supports 802.1p quality of service@ prioritization.  Is there a software interface to set the 802.1p; priority level if the hardware supports this feature?  TIA.    James    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:08:32 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: install TCPIP V5.4 0 Message-ID: <00A310B2.C71856FE@SendSpamHere.ORG>   How do I install this?      Product name is .PCSI$COMPRESSED   --  B http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.  --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:42:28 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: install TCPIP V5.4 0 Message-ID: <00A310B7.84FD6FF0@SendSpamHere.ORG>  S In article <00A310B2.C71856FE@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:  >How do I install this?  > ! >Product name is .PCSI$COMPRESSED   J Forget it.  I was searching the stupid itrc database for VMS731_PCSI-V0100J which should handle the PCSI$COMPRESSED and couldn't find it.  Though thatK there was some new way to do it.  Turns out the patch kit has been replaced  with V0200.    Grrr...    --  B http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.  --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:01:23 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: install TCPIP V5.4 $ Message-ID: <c6ov22$qea$2@online.de>  9 In article <00A310B2.C71856FE@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman-   @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:    > How do I install this?   > " > Product name is .PCSI$COMPRESSED   Read the release notes.  :-)  D       o  The PRODUCT INSTALL command can operate on PCSI kits with a?          file type of .PCSI$COMPRESSED in a transparent manner. G          Compressed kits are encoded using a data compression technique G          that significantly reduces their file size.  When a compressed >          kit is installed, records are decompressed (expanded)F          on-the-fly so no additional disk space is required to store aH          decompressed version of the kit.  Full support for creating andH          manipulating compressed kits is expected to be available in theG          next release for OpenVMS Alpha.  This remedial kit enables the A          use of compressed kits when they become available in the           future.  H The above is from VMS731_PCSI-V0100.RELEASE_NOTES.  Of course, you have  to install the patch first.      ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:42:51 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: IP TOS support 6 Message-ID: <40904F8B.19B139B3@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   James Wilkinson wrote: > S > Is there a way to set the TOS (type of service) field under TCP/IP Services v5.4?   D Well, I'm no UCX guru, but since you didn't get a response yet, I'll take a shot...  F Not sure what you mean by "type of service". Is this UN*X terminology?H ...and if so, to what does it refer? (If I knew that, I might be able to? point to a generic equivalent in any of the VMS TCP/IP stacks.)    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Apr 2004 14:41:33 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ( Subject: Re: LAT to TCPIP using sys$qiow3 Message-ID: <62YXDv16j2e2@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ] In article <c6onej$bk$1@newslocal.mitre.org>, lewis@spyder.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) writes:  > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes in article <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEHODCAA.tom@kednos.com> dated Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:50:46 -0700:@ >>We have a customer who, using LAT with sys$qiow to communicateA >>serial with other systems, wants to move to IP.  Examples would A >>be welcome, preferrably in PL/I but other languages would be OK  > ) > See SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.TCPIP].  > N > I'd recommend using the C socket functions instead of $qio[w].  You can evenD > use them from PL/I, although it might require a "wrapper" library.  E Regardless of programming interface, I believe such a change is going B to require quite a bit of change to the application, since LAT and1 TCPIP have considerably disjoint characteristics.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:43:04 -0400 * From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com>( Subject: Re: LAT to TCPIP using sys$qiow9 Message-ID: <BBUjc.37825$oN1.1640@bignews5.bellsouth.net>    Larry Kilgallen wrote:  _ > In article <c6onej$bk$1@newslocal.mitre.org>, lewis@spyder.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) writes:  >  >>"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes in article <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEHODCAA.tom@kednos.com> dated Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:50:46 -0700: >>A >>>We have a customer who, using LAT with sys$qiow to communicate B >>>serial with other systems, wants to move to IP.  Examples wouldB >>>be welcome, preferrably in PL/I but other languages would be OK >>) >>See SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.TCPIP].  >>N >>I'd recommend using the C socket functions instead of $qio[w].  You can evenD >>use them from PL/I, although it might require a "wrapper" library. >  > G > Regardless of programming interface, I believe such a change is going D > to require quite a bit of change to the application, since LAT and3 > TCPIP have considerably disjoint characteristics.     L Actually, no, the overall change to the code is pretty minor as long as you K continue using $QIO.  I did this kind LAT -> TCP/IP conversion back around  > 1996 or so and it was in the realm of moderately trivial work.     --   Chuck Chopp   8 ChuckChopp (at) rtfmcsi (dot) com http://www.rtfmcsi.com  @ RTFM Consulting Services Inc.     864 801 2795 voice & voicemail2 103 Autumn Hill Road              864 801 2774 fax Greer, SC  29651  , Do not send me unsolicited commercial email.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:01:58 -0400 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> ( Subject: Re: LAT to TCPIP using sys$qiow1 Message-ID: <kaKdnZ5EYvOK_w3d4p2dnA@adelphia.com>    Tom Linden wrote: @ > We have a customer who, using LAT with sys$qiow to communicateA > serial with other systems, wants to move to IP.  Examples would A > be welcome, preferrably in PL/I but other languages would be OK   I If the LTA device is set up external to the program, then you can do the  G same with a TNA device.  At that point the sys$qiow calls are the same.   H The major difference is that if the LTA device becomes disconnected, an G outstanding I/O will terminate with SS$_HANGUP.  The same I/O to a TNA  8 device will hang unless your application has a time out.  F If you are creating the LTA device in the application program, things L are more complicated, and I have not been through that procedure for TCP/IP.   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:43:52 -0400 * From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com>( Subject: Re: LAT to TCPIP using sys$qiow: Message-ID: <xQZjc.92299$UC4.60702@bignews2.bellsouth.net>   John E. Malmberg wrote:   H > If you are creating the LTA device in the application program, things G > are more complicated, and I have not been through that procedure for  	 > TCP/IP.   M The "UCX $QIO" interface is supported by *all* of the TCP/IP implementations  M that run on OpenVMS.  It is not necessary to create a TNA device in the same OL way that you would create an application LTA device.  Your application code J can directly communicate with the IP stack and obtain an ephemeral socket L for use with a TCP connection, and this simplifies things quite a bit since 1 it eliminates the need for pre-defined terminals.V     --   Chuck Choppp  8 ChuckChopp (at) rtfmcsi (dot) com http://www.rtfmcsi.com  @ RTFM Consulting Services Inc.     864 801 2795 voice & voicemail2 103 Autumn Hill Road              864 801 2774 fax Greer, SC  29651  , Do not send me unsolicited commercial email.   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Apr 2004 22:32:12 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)e Subject: Marillion Comebacku3 Message-ID: <8s7YZseRaZhB@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  
 Yo VAXMan.  ; http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/28/marillion_comeback/e  $ Marillion: appetite for resurrection   By Jon Collins, Quocirca- Published Wednesday 28th April 2004 13:03 GMTa  M Venerable British rock outfit Marillion this week made it into the UK Top Teni) for the first time in more than 17 years.   M But while this is sweet, sweet music to the ears of the bands loyal fan base, O the major music companies - EMI, Sony, Bertelsmann, AOL-Time Warner and VivenditM - will hear nothing but the ringing of alarm bells. Marillion, in common withaO other recent chart-toppers John Otway and The Alarm, have no place in the music  industry's strategic plans.   L So how did did Marillion hit number seven? Ironically, by employing the sameI tactics as the majors, with a little help from their friends. First, theytI invited hard-core fans to buy their next album a year in advance. Despite-M selling at what was an inflated price by anyone's standards, the band shiftedmM 13,000 copies. This gave Marillion a marketing war chest which it has used tofM pay for advertising and PR for the new single, plus promoters and pluggers tonA ensure maximum airplay. In fact: just like a real record company.q  N It's pretty well impossible to fix the charts these days, but it is recognisedM that money buys chart success. A carefully-placed video on the right channel;eO subscription to radio services which just happen to result in airtime; exchangehM of discounted CDs for window space at a retail chain; all of these techniquesh6 are accepted parts of the music biz marketing culture.  N Simon Napier-Bell, industry veteran and author of "Black Vinyl, White Powder",O further points to the seemingly obvious: that getting into the charts is also atO great way to sell records. The big labels' line of attack has evolved to ensureoM that maximum chart penetration for the latest sounds delivers the best return  on investment.  L The impact of the Internet on this seemingly perfect business model has beenJ well documented. Although the long-term implications are inconclusive, theM majors cannot afford to wait and see. The bulk of downloads are by teenagers,lO so companies looking to to shift "hard copy" have turned their attention to the ? "grey pound" - older generations who would rather buy than rip.t  O But while grandad is slipping a CD into the player and lighting his pipe, thoselL bands who are old enough to be his, er, contemporaries, continue to take theN fight to the industry giants. Key to this are the fans, thinks Marillion frontK man Steve Hogarth. "If you can enable a dialogue with your fans, youre in anL position to move mountains," he notes, adding that Marillion aren't alone inJ nurturing this new kind of relationship. Indeed, there are plenty of otherK bands that have been "enabling dialogues" of their own, from old timers ThetO Stranglers to bands with a younger appeal, such as Thrice. Steves advice to newiJ bands is pretty straightforward: "Instead of gigging round toilets for tenK years trying to get a record deal, gig around toilets for ten years and askiO people for their email addresses. If what youre doing strikes a chord, youll beiJ financially better off while remaining pure and free to do what you want."  M So, what does this mean for the music industry? Steve sees the writing on thebO wall: "History will see it as a funny little anomaly that happened between 1950eN and 2010," he says. "While technology made it possible, advances in technologyM will also make it impossible." He might have a point: while pressure has beenaN put on file-sharing technologies such as Napster and Kazaa, it is difficult toL see what protections can exist against the biggest file sharer of them all -N email. "As soon as we can send an email and attach an entire album, music will become free," says Steve.   M The music industry cannot afford to make significant changes to its marketingiM strategy without damaging its current business. Musicians, on the other hand,tJ are free to test new ideas on the market - and sometimes they can beat theK corporations at their own game. For Marillion, the chart position of numberPM seven has been fanfared with headlines shouting "comeback", and if thats whatn< the media has decided, then thats what the market perceives.  J Meanwhile, the band can continue to release the music they want as author,K producer, publisher and retailer - pocketing all off the cash rather than a O paltry 5 per cent royalty hand-out. As the Marillion song says: "We get what we:
 deserve."    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:44:20 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: Newbye quetion 6 Message-ID: <40904FE4.EBE54270@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   jose luis fernandez diaz wrote:  >  > Hi,  > 7 > Can anyone give a the definition and the relation of:i >  > - OSF  > - OpenVMSm	 > - Tru64c	 > - Alphaf   Homework question?  8 Well, at least OpenVMS is mentioned. That's some hope...   -- e David J. Dachtera) dba DJE Systemso http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/s   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:52:09 -0400h# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> & Subject: Oracle statement of direction, Message-ID: <vYidnSKqrqIVug3dRVn-uQ@igs.net>  K http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=574901p  G Posted by Sue. It's a Microsoft Word document. Old news to some, new tot others.d   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:17:17 -0700S# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>a* Subject: RE: Oracle statement of direction9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIMEIPDCAA.tom@kednos.com>   @ Two comments, (1) no mention of Rdb and (2) it didn't say Oracle: was porting to Itanium, only that they are working with HP on a migration strategy.     -----Original Message-----*   From: John Smith [mailto:a@nonymous.com])   Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:52 PMv   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como(   Subject: Oracle statement of direction      D   http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?thread   Id=574901n   I   Posted by Sue. It's a Microsoft Word document. Old news to some, new toa	   others.u         --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004o    ---e& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004t   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:34:02 -0400b- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>s* Subject: Re: Oracle statement of direction, Message-ID: <40903F55.C27ABEFC@teksavvy.com>   John Smith wrote:e > M > http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=574901y > I > Posted by Sue. It's a Microsoft Word document. Old news to some, new to 	 > others.   N Perhaps I lost portions of that bloated word document, but I saw no mention of& RDB. Should I make something of this ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:42:46 -0400g- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>c/ Subject: Re: OT: Failure of Windows good for HPt, Message-ID: <40900930.D5AFBBBD@teksavvy.com>   Nic Clews wrote:C > Yep, that's right, and interestingly, the mirrored process on thetI > duplicated hardware consumes very little resources waiting to take overdG > the workload if the "primary" fails, while the hardware the mirror ispF > running can be carrying out other useful processing work (of course, > mirrored elsewhere).  K That isn't exactly what I had been told.  The bank I worked for had a groupeI dedicated full time to "balancing" the processes and their backups on the ( tandem (I think they had 16 processors).L The backup processes consumes resources because they were ready to take over> and kept getting "check points" from which they could recover.  N Also, the redundancy at the process level wasn't "automatic" from the hardwareC or the OS, it had to be coded into the applications. Not all Tandem.D applications were capable of automatic failover to a backup process.  I The real mission critical software was written such that even the currentnM transaction would complete in case the primary CPU for an application failed.   F > However, the component indictment of Tandem is coming in Itanium, soC > there is some scope for some funky features in future flux of ourD > favourite operating system.M  K My *impression* (based only on this newsgroup) and that the people building L hardware on which VMS will run are totally separate from the people who willG be building the tandem hardware, and there there is very little synergy  between  VMS and NSK engineers.i  M So my impression is that tandem will remain a very separate product line thathF just happens to use some common chips, disk drives, and possibly powerJ supplies. (just like IBM usess some chips common with chips used by Dell).   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:48:46 -0400O- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>E/ Subject: Re: OT: Failure of Windows good for HPy, Message-ID: <40900A98.F671145A@teksavvy.com>   Paul Repacholi wrote:eB > ANZ was a big VMS user, don't know if they still use them. Their > ATM net was basicly  > / > ATMs -- Tandems -- VMS clusters -- blueboxen.   @ What was the role of the VMS boxes between the Tandem and IBMs ?  J Where I worked, the Tandem was dual role. It switched transactions betweenM this bank's mainframe and the interbank ATM networks (interac, plus, cirrus),oK and also played the key role of maintaining ATM service in an off-line mode K when the IBM mainframes were down. (no access to your balance, only checked K your pin, check card against black list, and max widthdrawal). Once the IBMiK came back up, the tandem would "gently" send the backlog of transactions to-N the mainframes. (The word "gently" is important because they had many problemsK with thrittling of transactions and managing the tandem transaction queue).e  : So I don't really see what the VMS boxes would really do ?  M My image of ANZ was of an old established very conservative bank. Surprise to L hear that VMS would have had such a serious presence in there. Seemed like a very "blue" shop.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:51:28 -0400I- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>e/ Subject: Re: OT: Failure of Windows good for HPi, Message-ID: <40900B3A.D02A909C@teksavvy.com>  F > Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> wrote in message  I > > Interesting we have sucessfully replaced a Tandem system doing credit G > > authorisation with the same software platform being used by ANZ but # > > running on Solaris not Windows.   E Are you saying that the target software ANZ tried to move to was also  available on Unix ?g@ Or just that an equivalent but different package was available ?  M The more examples of a package running well under a real OS and failing under M Windows, the more ammunition we can bring to potential customers or employersuU to convince them that moving to Windows from a real OS is not worth the money/effort.,   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:13:50 -0700c# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>S/ Subject: RE: OT: Failure of Windows good for HP89 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIMEJADCAA.tom@kednos.com>i     -----Original Message-----6   From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com]*   Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:49 PM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como1   Subject: Re: OT: Failure of Windows good for HP:       Paul Repacholi wrote:aD   > ANZ was a big VMS user, don't know if they still use them. Their   > ATM net was basiclys   >t1   > ATMs -- Tandems -- VMS clusters -- blueboxen.b  B   What was the role of the VMS boxes between the Tandem and IBMs ?  L   Where I worked, the Tandem was dual role. It switched transactions between@   this bank's mainframe and the interbank ATM networks (interac,   plus, cirrus),?   and also played the key role of maintaining ATM service in an:   off-line modes@   when the IBM mainframes were down. (no access to your balance,   only checked@   your pin, check card against black list, and max widthdrawal).   Once the IBM=   came back up, the tandem would "gently" send the backlog ofr   transactions tomB   the mainframes. (The word "gently" is important because they had   many problemsI9   with thrittling of transactions and managing the tandemt   transaction queue).e  <   So I don't really see what the VMS boxes would really do ?  7 I didn't know either, but they did have a PL/I license.   C   My image of ANZ was of an old established very conservative bank.w
   Surprise tol@   hear that VMS would have had such a serious presence in there.   Seemed like an   very "blue" shop.h       ---t(   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004t   ---o& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 4/8/2004t   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:45:08 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: strange disk status$ Message-ID: <c6p54j$irc$1@online.de>  G After the crash and reboot of ELIJAH (see my previous post), typing "B"t@ at the console prompt brought the machine up normally, with one F exception involving a shadow set (temporarily with only one member).   The mount failed with   ;    %MOUNT-F-DEVBUSYINVMOS, $DSA in-set value block is emptym  G There are only three nodes in the cluster, and the disk $44$dka300: is   directly connected to ELIJAH.t   SYSMAN> do sh dev $44$dka300:f2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEELP Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntP  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count Cnt. $44$DKA300:   (ELIJAH)                       02 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIAP Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntP  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count CntF $44$DKA300:   (ELIJAH)  Online               0  (remote shadow member)2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAHP Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntP  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count CntF $44$DKA300:   (ELIJAH)  Online               0  (remote shadow member)  E Since it is apparently not mounted anywhere, I don't see why I can't fI mount it.  On the other hand, it appears to be a remote shadow member on eG two of the nodes.  Is there any way to get out of this situation short a of a cluster reboot?   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:58:30 +0000 (UTC),P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)  Subject: Re: strange disk status$ Message-ID: <c6p5tm$jp2$1@online.de>  D In article <c6p54j$irc$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de3 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: s  I > After the crash and reboot of ELIJAH (see my previous post), typing "B"-B > at the console prompt brought the machine up normally, with one H > exception involving a shadow set (temporarily with only one member).   > The mount failed with  > = >    %MOUNT-F-DEVBUSYINVMOS, $DSA in-set value block is empty- > I > There are only three nodes in the cluster, and the disk $44$dka300: is   > directly connected to ELIJAH.  >  > SYSMAN> do sh dev $44$dka300:o4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEELR > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntR >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count Cnt0 > $44$DKA300:   (ELIJAH)                       04 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIAR > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntR >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count CntH > $44$DKA300:   (ELIJAH)  Online               0  (remote shadow member)4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAHR > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntR >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count CntH > $44$DKA300:   (ELIJAH)  Online               0  (remote shadow member) > G > Since it is apparently not mounted anywhere, I don't see why I can't  K > mount it.  On the other hand, it appears to be a remote shadow member on eI > two of the nodes.  Is there any way to get out of this situation short s > of a cluster reboot?   Forgot to add this information:    SYSMAN> do sh dev disk$dataa2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node DANEELP Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntP  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count CntP DSA530:                 MntVerifyTimeout     0  DATA           3408657     1   22 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node GLADIAP Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntP  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count CntP DSA530:                 MntVerifyTimeout     0  DATA           3408657     1   22 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node ELIJAH- %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device availablea  + It seems to me that this is not consistent.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:35:57 GMTi/ From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks)i  Subject: Re: strange disk status- Message-ID: <7IrvKYihR57D@cuebid.zko.dec.com>-  2 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:I > After the crash and reboot of ELIJAH (see my previous post), typing "B"jB > at the console prompt brought the machine up normally, with one H > exception involving a shadow set (temporarily with only one member).   > The mount failed with  > = >    %MOUNT-F-DEVBUSYINVMOS, $DSA in-set value block is emptye  0 What was the exact mount command used on ELIJAH? What version of VMS?                    n -- f  M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.com    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:15:28 +0000 (UTC)hP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)  Subject: Re: strange disk status$ Message-ID: <c6q31g$1v9$1@online.de>  - In article <7IrvKYihR57D@cuebid.zko.dec.com>,E2 brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:   4 > (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:K > > After the crash and reboot of ELIJAH (see my previous post), typing "B"-D > > at the console prompt brought the machine up normally, with one J > > exception involving a shadow set (temporarily with only one member).   > > The mount failed with  > > ? > >    %MOUNT-F-DEVBUSYINVMOS, $DSA in-set value block is emptyr > 2 > What was the exact mount command used on ELIJAH? > What version of VMS?  ? MOUNT DSA530:/SHADOW=($44$DKA300:) DATA.  VMS 7.3, all patches.V   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:15:57 +0000 (UTC)sP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)  Subject: Re: strange disk status$ Message-ID: <c6q32d$1v9$2@online.de>  2 > What was the exact mount command used on ELIJAH? > What version of VMS?  C MOUNT DSA530:/SHADOW=($44$DKA300:) DATA.  VMS 7.3 VAX, all patches.S   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:54:40 +0000 (UTC)dP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)K Subject: Re: SYS$SCRATCH, logicals pointing to disks, cluster-wide logicals $ Message-ID: <c6oulg$qea$1@online.de>  < In article <a98cd882.0404280342.cfdee34@posting.google.com>,( Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl (Bart Zorn) writes:   H > You can use cluster-wide logical names everywhere the translation usesH > LNM$SYSTEM and not LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE as argument to $TRNLNM. ComponentsG > like RMS, F$PARSE, F$SEARCH etc. correctly use LNM$SYSTEM. This means C > that generally you do not have to expect problems when you defineh > SYS$SCRATCH cluster-wide.p  B Right!  I'm just wondering if there are any applications which use, LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE which I should worry about.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:48:39 -0400f< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>C Subject: Re: TCPIP 5.3, VAX VMS 7.3: how did this mail get through?t9 Message-ID: <c6p1qp$e14si$1@ID-141708.news.uni-berlin.de>l  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  >...F > This means it is a valid email address, and since it is in the clear7 > it can be harvested.  Why does it get so little spam?   E The e-mail address I have uses for posting for the last year or so is1G valid. But I only receive one or two spam messages a day (not includingwH virus attacks, and excluding the time that Jerrold Schiff (you know, the> guy who posts really stupid VAX-Alpha migration questions fromG tutor@cfl.rr.com) decided to sign me (and Paul Sture) up for a bunch ofnH newsletters). The e-mail account that I have not used for posting in theH last year receives 70 - 90 spams a day, many of those spams include a ccG list that has people who left the company over two years ago. But every D spam message that goes to this account gets reported to spamcop, theC other account uses MS Exchange which makes spam reporting extremelys
 difficult.   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.t Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.caH   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:04:47 -0400i- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>l& Subject: TCPIP SMTP distribution lists, Message-ID: <40902A6F.2C7D2CC4@teksavvy.com>   TCPIP Services 5.3 (VAX VMS)  M The documentation talks very vaguely about distribution lists being stored ineL the TCPIP$SMTP_COMMON directory (defaults to [sys0.tcpip$smtp] where the log' files and smtp.config files are stored)c  L However, I have found no details on wxactly how those distribution lists areH used, what restrictions on usage, and wether they should contain vmsmail" adresses or internet adresses etc.  @ Does anyone have any details/experiences on this functionality ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:48:13 -0500 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> Subject: Re: telnet in batch6 Message-ID: <409050CD.D0488EA9@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Dale Dellutri wrote: > [snip]   Hey, Dale! Whassup?-   -- t David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsc http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/r   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:51:38 -0400e* From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com>' Subject: Tomcat / Java / process quotass: Message-ID: <8_Zjc.96498$Lh2.66197@bignews1.bellsouth.net>  G I've looked over the FAQ for Java on OpenVMS Alpha and I don't see any wF recommendations regarding how to properly estimate the process quotas L [bytlim, pgflquo & fillm in particular] that need to be set for the account D that runs the Tomcat server.  I'm trying to run some sample servlet I applications, but after the initial JSPs are displayed and it is time to lM interact with the actual servlet itself, I'm finding that the servlet simply DL dies and I get a 503 error from Tomcat.  I'm not sure if the sample servlet F is simply broken [e.g. coded wrong] or if some process quota is being M exceeded.  The Tomcat logs directory has log files in it, but they are empty s+ so there's nothing of use there to look at.I  K Is there any sort of additional information regarding analyzing the actual sJ servlet code, combined with the estimated # of concurrent client sessions I that would allow me to more accurately estimate the process quota values u= that will be needed for Tomcat to run my servlet application?S  M I am using Java v1.3.1-17 & the CSWS_JAVA v2.1 on OpenVMS Alpha v7.3-1 [with -  all required patches installed].     TIA,   ChuckS -- e Chuck Chopp   8 ChuckChopp (at) rtfmcsi (dot) com http://www.rtfmcsi.com  @ RTFM Consulting Services Inc.     864 801 2795 voice & voicemail2 103 Autumn Hill Road              864 801 2774 fax Greer, SC  29651  , Do not send me unsolicited commercial email.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:33:06 +0200m" From: labadie <labadie_g@decus.fr>+ Subject: Re: Tomcat / Java / process quotasa2 Message-ID: <c6q10g$3p8$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>   Chuck Chopp a crit :SI > I've looked over the FAQ for Java on OpenVMS Alpha and I don't see any CH > recommendations regarding how to properly estimate the process quotas F > [bytlim, pgflquo & fillm in particular] that need to be set for the ' > account that runs the Tomcat server. y get pquota on the freeware5 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/pquota/  and issue aw  
 $ pquota 'pidm you should see what is wrong   Regards    Gerard   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.236 ************************