1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 05 Aug 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 430       Contents:" Re: BASIC debugging -- please help< Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? Re: DS10 questions Re: End-Of-Support OpenVMS7.1-2 # hp DeskJet 5850W PS printing on VMS ' Re: hp DeskJet 5850W PS printing on VMS & HP Storage Works DAT 40 on VMS 7.2-1 ? Re: OT: Pretty good Linux ad Re: OT: Pretty good Linux ad0 partly OT: Bob Supnik article on SIMH in ACM QUE. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! Re: Preventing fragmentation.  RENAME MULTIPLES USERNAMES< Re: Restrictive protections on C header files - ECO problem? rx2600 and SAS RE: rx2600 and SAS& Storage works DAT 40 support on 7.2-1?* Re: Storage works DAT 40 support on 7.2-1?! Storageworks DAT 40 on VMS 7.2-1? ? Re: Structure of SMTP Receiver - simple spam and content filter ( Summary:  BASIC debugging -- please help? TECO manual location, was: Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS C RE: TECO manual location, was: Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS C Re: TECO manual location, was: Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS  Re: Touch Screen Voting systems  Re: Touch Screen Voting systems  Re: Touch Screen Voting systems   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 01:44:55 GMT 0 From: Randy Park <rjpark@mindspring.nospaam.com>+ Subject: Re: BASIC debugging -- please help 8 Message-ID: <v043h0lm6rue8kq9drbikmshf4pdifh0ek@4ax.com>  W On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:22:55 -0400, "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote:   - >On 4 Aug 2004 at 11:59, Mike Rechtman wrote: , >> 1. V6.1 is *really* *really* unsupported. > & >That's okay, I can replicate on V7.3. > , >Of course, I don't get this error on Alpha. >  >--Stan Quayle >Quayle Consulting Inc.  >   : That's a clue.  In Alpha, the first X arguments are passed& in registers rather than on the stack.  < I'd look for a call to an external subroutine where you pass? a dynamic string by descriptor, but the subroutine is expecting > it's argument by reference.  The external routine could be one= you wrote or it could be an RTL routine including SYS$, LIB$,  etc.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 11:48:43 -0700 $ From: benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us (Benito)E Subject: Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? = Message-ID: <ad6309a1.0408041048.78a04e91@posting.google.com>   o alexandre <alexandre.mongin@csgv.fr> wrote in message news:<GFr.1b732708a6da4d4c989681@news.adsl.hexanet.fr>...  > Hi there ! >  > I've got a question here:  > J > Would it be possible to 'spy' on a printer queue in order to catch when E > a file is being printed, and thus to make a copy of it before it's  F > deleted in the case where it's sent on the printer device through a  > 'print/delete' command ???   Hello,  E We are doing exactly that here.  We are capturing files being printed A (with the /delete qualifier) to a Stoped que, sending the file to ? another server (via scp), then finally, requeing the entry to a B started que.  It checks the stoped que every 15 seconds. Both quesC have the same IP, and there is no impact on the end user, they just  get their print out as always.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 00:10:39 -04002 From: John Eisenschmidt <jweisen@eisenschmidt.org> Subject: Re: DS10 questions 4 Message-ID: <20040805041039.GF4456@eisenschmidt.org>  F I had an AS800 and hated the graphical console stuff so much that whenE the DS10 came I only ever used it from the console. If you're not the C network guy, ask one of them to steal a 9 pin to 9 pin Cisco router A cable and plug it into the top port on the DS10 and boot it up (I F suggest putting the halt on to wait and see where it's at). 9600-8-N-1B and stupid Hyperterm will work just fine. It's the only way I everC administered my DS10s. Just don't plug a keyboard/monitor/mouse in.   E I burned these right down and reinstalled VMS -- 7.2-1 is the minimum  they'll run I believe.  2 ----- Tom Adams (tadamsmar@yahoo.com) wrote: -----F > We just got a new DS10 server but we have not been able to get it to > boot.  > F > We wanted it to come in the door configured to be a workstation, butC > the graphics card was omitted.   HP sent us a 3X-DEPVZ-AA that we  > installed. > E > First I connected to an old VRT17-HA monitor and tried to boot. (Or E > new monitor has not arrived yet.)  I got nothing but a blue screen.  > G > Then I tried hooking a dumb terminal to the 25-pin RS232 port.  I got  > a backwards question mark. > H > I am not sure what to do.  I have never had to boot a pure server withC > a dumb terminal, but I know it can be done.  Of course, I am only B > trying to boot dumb because the graphics card is not working - IE > figured I might learn something about the status of the system if I " > could boot from a dumb terminal. > D > The DS10 is running VMS 7.3.2 with the Graphics 0200 patch already6 > installed.  Is there some other patch we might need? > F > According to the graphics card installation guide, there is a jumper8 > to enable/disable VGA.  Where should I put the jumper? > D > Is the 25-pin connector the right place to connect a dump terminalG > console?  What is the baud rate?  Do I just need pins 2,3,7 connected G > to pins 2,3,7 direct or do I need to connected pin 2 to 3 and 3 to 2?  > G > Does the fact that we have the graphics card installed cause the dumb E > terminal console to stop working?  Do I need to remove the graphics 0 > card to get the dumb terminal console to work?   --  / John W. Eisenschmidt (jweisen@eisenschmidt.org) .   http://www.eisenschmidt.org/jweisen/pgp.html  L "Are you done? Because I'm done listening to you. I've got a curse for you, 9  it's called 'tomorrow morning, your ass is outta here'." K                                       -Master Shake, Aqua Teen Hunger Force    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 23:36:42 +0100< From: "Alex Daniels" <AlexNOSPAMTHANKSDaniels@themail.co.uk>( Subject: Re: End-Of-Support OpenVMS7.1-25 Message-ID: <411164fd$0$7133$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>   6 "Gerard Rokx" <gerard.rokx@niixx.com> wrote in message7 news:9ea35c1a.0407292221.25d1593d@posting.google.com... > > One of our customers is running the following configuration: > - AlphaServer800 > - OpenVMS 7.1-2  > 7 > What is the end-of-support date for these components? 2 > What is the end-of-support date for OpenVMS 7.3? >  > 	 > Thanks,  > Gerard  I The AlphaServer 800 is a supported hardware product, it is qualified with # OpenVMS 7.3-2 and will be with 8.2.    Alex   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 16:09:52 -0500 4 From: kuhrt@nospammy.encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt), Subject: hp DeskJet 5850W PS printing on VMS3 Message-ID: <KiRi9hbMGrOe@eisner.encompasserve.org>   > My wife just bought an hp DeskJet 5850W printer, which we haveA plugged into the home network.  I see from the DCPS SPD that this A isn't a supported printer.  I set up a Multinet NLP queue and can @ print straight text documents just fine.  What I'd like to do is? be able to print PS docs, too, but I don't know of this printer @ supports that.  All of the technical documents I found on the hp6 site for this printer lacked that information as well.  A So my question is, has anyone gotten this printer to work with PS  files from VMS?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:25:49 -0600 " From: GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>0 Subject: Re: hp DeskJet 5850W PS printing on VMS0 Message-ID: <HfOdnanTJOhvzozcRVn-gA@bresnan.com>   Marty Kuhrt wrote:  @ > My wife just bought an hp DeskJet 5850W printer, which we haveC > plugged into the home network.  I see from the DCPS SPD that this C > isn't a supported printer.  I set up a Multinet NLP queue and can B > print straight text documents just fine.  What I'd like to do isA > be able to print PS docs, too, but I don't know of this printer B > supports that.  All of the technical documents I found on the hp8 > site for this printer lacked that information as well. > C > So my question is, has anyone gotten this printer to work with PS  > files from VMS?   < It's PCL level 3.  The specs don't show it to be PS capable.   --  ! ---------------------------------  My other computer is a VAX.    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 12:13:02 -0700 % From: tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) / Subject: HP Storage Works DAT 40 on VMS 7.2-1 ? = Message-ID: <ea44f5a1.0408041113.3b0eae71@posting.google.com>   C I just bought a new DS10 and it came with a HP Storage works DAT 40  HotPlug  tape drive.    Can it be used on  VMS 7.2-1?   E The tape drive does not show up when I boot from a 7.2-1 CD.  It does & show up when I boot from the 7.3-2 CD.  A The HP web site for the drive does not list a driver for anything  before 7.3.  ? I wonder if there is a patch, driver, or work around for 7.2-1.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:34:37 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>% Subject: Re: OT: Pretty good Linux ad + Message-ID: <41113A4D.5A062371@comcast.net>   
 HUMBUG wrote:  > j > On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:39:37 +0000 (UTC), j.lance wilkinson, (814) 865-1818 <jlw@psulias.psu.edu> Wrote : > <snip> > >>, > >>http://www.linspire.com/run_linspire.php > >>< > >>and if you have Quicktime Pro, it works full screen too. > >> > >>-- > >>Paul Sture > >>1 > >>OS X: "It's Unix, Jim, but not as we know it"  > >  > > D > >       Ah, well, folks.  Must have been too entertaining, becauseF > >       as I read this article now, 2 weeks after it was posted, theJ > >       website reports 404 Not Found for both these links.  Did anybody > >       keep this around?  > 2 > Sure did. Tell me where to send it and I will... >  > -- >  > Humbug  . How to de-mung the reply-to should be obvious.   D.J.D.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 13:29:53 -0700 $ From: benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us (Benito)% Subject: Re: OT: Pretty good Linux ad < Message-ID: <ad6309a1.0408041229.f59d159@posting.google.com>  T HUMBUG <humbug@bit.bucket> wrote in message news:<jh27u1-ghv.ln1@deep.bit.bucket>...j > On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:39:37 +0000 (UTC), j.lance wilkinson, (814) 865-1818 <jlw@psulias.psu.edu> Wrote : > <snip> > >>, > >>http://www.linspire.com/run_linspire.php > >>< > >>and if you have Quicktime Pro, it works full screen too. > >> > >>--   > >>Paul Sture > >>1 > >>OS X: "It's Unix, Jim, but not as we know it"  > >  > > ? > > 	Ah, well, folks.  Must have been too entertaining, because A > > 	as I read this article now, 2 weeks after it was posted, the E > > 	website reports 404 Not Found for both these links.  Did anybody  > > 	keep this around? > 2 > Sure did. Tell me where to send it and I will...    - I would like to see it. benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:31:09 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")9 Subject: partly OT: Bob Supnik article on SIMH in ACM QUE 6 Message-ID: <00A35D9F.00BF2729@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  	 VMSers --   4 ACM QUEUE magazine had an issue on virtual machines.  G Here's Bob Supnik's article on implementation/design issues in writing  J emulators for the SIMH project, which I found quite interesting.  FamiliarJ acronyms used include MSCP, PDP, VAX, and VMS, although references to IBM,E Interdata, Data General, etc, also appear; all illustrate issues with 
 emulators.  D http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=172     -- Alan    --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:58:14 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! + Message-ID: <41113FD6.7203669E@comcast.net>   ! VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > j > In article <d7791aa1.0408040659.216e8c28@posting.google.com>, bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes: > >http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&subsection_code=1&file=template1.jsp&storyid=1297  > , > ... all I get is a banner ad for Symantec.  5 (Cue: the usual blather about non-standard browsers.)    D.J.D.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 23:49:28 +02000 From: "Jerome" <jeromeatforissierdotorg@no.spam>7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! 4 Message-ID: <cerlq7$8p6$1@apollon.grec.isp.9tel.net>   David J Dachtera wrote: # > VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  >>@ >> In article <d7791aa1.0408040659.216e8c28@posting.google.com>,- >> bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:  >>> | http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&subsection_code=1&file=template1.jsp&storyid=1297 >>- >> ... all I get is a banner ad for Symantec.  > 7 > (Cue: the usual blather about non-standard browsers.)   / Err... yes... and what about non-standard HTML?    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cxotoday.com%2Fcxo%2Fjsp%2Findex.jsp%3Fsection%3DNews%26subsection%3DBusiness%26subsection_code%3D1%26file%3Dtemplate1.jsp%26storyid%3D1297   ;)   --   Jerome   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 16:59:26 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! 3 Message-ID: <ZAzIisAWF23V@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <41113FD6.7203669E@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:# > VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  >>  k >> In article <d7791aa1.0408040659.216e8c28@posting.google.com>, bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:  >> >http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&subsection_code=1&file=template1.jsp&storyid=1297 >>  - >> ... all I get is a banner ad for Symantec.  > 7 > (Cue: the usual blather about non-standard browsers.)   E With 658 errors from http://validator.w3.org, I would say the problem  is a non-standard web _page_.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:04:04 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! 0 Message-ID: <00A35DE6.A93B4E21@SendSpamHere.ORG>  ` In article <41113FD6.7203669E@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:" >VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>  k >> In article <d7791aa1.0408040659.216e8c28@posting.google.com>, bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:  >> >http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&subsection_code=1&file=template1.jsp&storyid=1297 >>  - >> ... all I get is a banner ad for Symantec.  > 6 >(Cue: the usual blather about non-standard browsers.)  I Non-standard meaning Micro$oft only.  Micro$hit is not a standard!  Hell, ; it can't even stand without falling over every few minutes.      --  < http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 02:42:39 +0200  From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! - Message-ID: <cervq0$1kii$1@news.cybercity.dk>    David J Dachtera wrote: # > VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  >>@ >> In article <d7791aa1.0408040659.216e8c28@posting.google.com>,- >> bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:  >>> | http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&subsection_code=1&file=template1.jsp&storyid=1297 >>- >> ... all I get is a banner ad for Symantec.  > 7 > (Cue: the usual blather about non-standard browsers.)  >  > D.J.D.  K I think we have to get used to the idea that some massively large number of I web developers use IE as their reference browser and test on ZERO others. J This disturbs me as well, but the bottom line is that it indicative of theD target audience for the content.  It might also indicate that the ITI managers responsible for said web development believe certain truths that  might, in fact, not be true.  E In any case, the web-page in question reads fine on IE 6.x as well as I FireFox 0.9.1, Mozilla 1.7 and Opera 7.23 and for this test I upgraded to I 7.53 which also works.  I use AdExtinguisher service for add blocking and L MyIE2 instead of standard IE, all running on Win2K.  So I think that the web5 page in question is probably better than most.  YMMV.   	 Dr. Dweeb    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:37:50 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! + Message-ID: <41118F6E.CE6BDE7A@comcast.net>    "Dr. Dweeb" wrote: >  > David J Dachtera wrote: % > > VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > >>B > >> In article <d7791aa1.0408040659.216e8c28@posting.google.com>,/ > >> bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:  > >>> ~ > http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&subsection_code=1&file=template1.jsp&storyid=1297 > >>/ > >> ... all I get is a banner ad for Symantec.  > > 9 > > (Cue: the usual blather about non-standard browsers.)  > > 
 > > D.J.D. > M > I think we have to get used to the idea that some massively large number of K > web developers use IE as their reference browser and test on ZERO others. L > This disturbs me as well, but the bottom line is that it indicative of theF > target audience for the content.  It might also indicate that the ITK > managers responsible for said web development believe certain truths that  > might, in fact, not be true.  E The truth is that M$ is de-facto standard, not an "industry" standard A (that is, it is not required by any specifications negotiated and 0 accepted industry wide - it is ubiquitous only).  G > In any case, the web-page in question reads fine on IE 6.x as well as K > FireFox 0.9.1, Mozilla 1.7 and Opera 7.23 and for this test I upgraded to K > 7.53 which also works.  I use AdExtinguisher service for add blocking and N > MyIE2 instead of standard IE, all running on Win2K.  So I think that the web7 > page in question is probably better than most.  YMMV.   > With the re-emergence of non-M$ browsers and other products, IB anticipate a change in the "environment" that will probably happenA slowly, and will not be an "IE killer" - it will just require web D developers to look beyond Redmond in order to maximize the return on* their efforts and development investments.   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:03:14 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> 7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! 0 Message-ID: <10h38r46nrpqpd4@corp.supernews.com>   Bob Ceculski wrote: ~ > http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&subsection_code=1&file=template1.jsp&storyid=1297 ... ; > Almost all Lottery systems in the world use OpenVMS as it   8 As much as I like VMS, fact is, that's changing rapidly.  : There are a lot of legacy lottery systems still running on< VMS, but there are almost no new large lottery installations
 using VMS.  ? It's certainly not because VMS or the hardware can't handle it, > it can ... it's because the major DB vendors - Oracle, Sybase,< etc - are either years behind in releases/features on VMS or; have announced end of life plans for their products on VMS.   < The vast majority of new lottery systems are Unix (esp. AIX) and Windows Server 2003.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 22:29:30 +0200 " From: labadie <labadie_g@decus.fr>& Subject: Re: Preventing fragmentation.2 Message-ID: <cerh0u$8cr$1@news-reader2.wanadoo.fr>   RF a crit := > After a recent BACKUP/RESTORE, which resulted in a DFU File G > fragmentation index of 0.00 (yea, down from 8+), it took less than 36 C > hours for that index to fall (rise?) to ~4.8.  This is due to the F > 1000s of files, both permanent and temporary, that are created dailyG > during normal data processing.  It seems to me that there may be some H > system setting that could help prevent or reduce this fragmentation byG > "encouraging" the system to write files in a more contiguous manner.  G > I'm not looking to maintain an index of excellent only to improve the F > index.  I'm sure that running a defrag such as DFU will be suggestedE > and I'm already doing that, but I'd like to find something that was ! > proactive rather than reactive. 	 > Vitals: ' > Alpha OpenVMS V6.2 on DEC 3000 - M700  > DFU v2.7a  > ODS2 volume, ~37gb; > Disk init:  $init/header=2000000 /maximum=2000000 my$disk  >  > TIA, > RFITCH" > Long time, not so hot, VMS user.  F I suppose that your appli puts files in a directory named disk$appli, D and that your appli is started every morning and shut every evening.  F May be you should do the following, define disk$appli as a search-list  % The following will automagically roll   8 def disk$appli disk:<dir.'F$CVTIME("TODAY",,"WEEKDAY")>-- disk:<dir.'F$CVTIME("TODAY+1-0",,"WEEKDAY")>- - disk:<dir.'F$CVTIME("TODAY+2-0",,"WEEKDAY")>- - disk:<dir.'F$CVTIME("TODAY+3-0",,"WEEKDAY")>- - disk:<dir.'F$CVTIME("TODAY+4-0",,"WEEKDAY")>- - disk:<dir.'F$CVTIME("TODAY+5-0",,"WEEKDAY")>- , disk:<dir.'F$CVTIME("TODAY+6-0",,"WEEKDAY")>  < Of course you have to create your directory <.monday> and so    H You can of course use a little dcl to have a search-list with many more  elements, and make it roll.   @ On monday you can quietly move the file in <.tuesday> and other @ directories to otherwhere, while not disturbing the application.   have fun   Gerard   ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: da2341@cedar.ca.sbc.com # Subject: RENAME MULTIPLES USERNAMES 3 Message-ID: <04080415544454_11096@cedar.ca.sbc.com>   : Doe anyone has a dcl command procedure to rename multiple $ usernames and eache users directory?   Thanks!    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:57:09 -0500 (CDT) From: sms@antinode.orgE Subject: Re: Restrictive protections on C header files - ECO problem? ) Message-ID: <04080421570913@antinode.org>   & From: David M Smith <dsmit115@csc.com>  R > Steve, I think you're right that it is a bug in the VMS731_ACRTL patch. I lookedQ > on my system and I see the same thing for those specific files. In my case, the O > modification date on those files is the date I installed a number of patches, 6 > including the ACRTL-V0300 patch which you mentioned. > [...]   F    Looks like a pretty thorough analysis to me.  Thanks.  (In my case,F VMS731_ACRTL was the only one I did that day, so it was more obvious.)  :    Is anyone on the patch creation squad paying attention?  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 12:46:37 +1000 3 From: Patrick Young <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU>  Subject: rx2600 and SAS * Message-ID: <2ndljcFvsvjtU1@uni-berlin.de>  4 Someone just came and parked an rx2600 in my office.  7 They are a SAS user. Is SAS going to be supported under  VMS on Itanium?   6 I expect they will be running Window(tm) otherwise, or( until such time as they can run VMS/SAS.  7 I didn't order the eval VMS Itanium kit. Can I download  a CDROM image from somewhere?    Many thanks.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:51:18 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: RE: rx2600 and SAS 9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIGEBKDKAA.tom@kednos.com>   = SAS was originally written in PL/I and I think they still run A that version om IBM and that was also the same they ran on VAXen, $ but don't know what they use on AXP.   < -----Original Message-----< < From: Patrick Young [mailto:patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU]* < Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:47 PM < To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  < Subject: rx2600 and SAS  <  < 6 < Someone just came and parked an rx2600 in my office. < 9 < They are a SAS user. Is SAS going to be supported under  < VMS on Itanium?  < 8 < I expect they will be running Window(tm) otherwise, or* < until such time as they can run VMS/SAS. < 9 < I didn't order the eval VMS Itanium kit. Can I download  < a CDROM image from somewhere?  <  < Many thanks. <  < --- ( < Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.< < Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).B < Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 <  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 12:18:23 -0700 % From: tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) / Subject: Storage works DAT 40 support on 7.2-1? = Message-ID: <ea44f5a1.0408041118.2c4eec8c@posting.google.com>   C I just bought a new DS10 and it came with a HP Storage works DAT 40  HotPlug  tape drive.    Can it be used on  VMS 7.2-1?   E The tape drive does not show up when I boot from a 7.2-1 CD.  It does & show up when I boot from the 7.3-2 CD.  A The HP web site for the drive does not list a driver for anything  before 7.3.  ? I wonder if there is a patch, driver, or work around for 7.2-1.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:02:18 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>3 Subject: Re: Storage works DAT 40 support on 7.2-1? + Message-ID: <411140CA.DB7FD076@comcast.net>    Tom Adams wrote: > E > I just bought a new DS10 and it came with a HP Storage works DAT 40 	 > HotPlug 
 > tape drive.  >  > Can it be used on  VMS 7.2-1?  > G > The tape drive does not show up when I boot from a 7.2-1 CD.  It does ( > show up when I boot from the 7.3-2 CD. > C > The HP web site for the drive does not list a driver for anything  > before > 7.3. > A > I wonder if there is a patch, driver, or work around for 7.2-1.   B Well, V7.2 pre-dates hp by a good margin. How goes it with V7.3-1?  F ...and is there anything tying you V7.2-1? Can you upgrade VMS without breaking anything?     D.J.D.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 12:14:22 -0700 % From: tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) * Subject: Storageworks DAT 40 on VMS 7.2-1?< Message-ID: <ea44f5a1.0408041114.58b6f9c@posting.google.com>  C I just bought a new DS10 and it came with a HP Storage works DAT 40  HotPlug  tape drive.    Can it be used on  VMS 7.2-1?   E The tape drive does not show up when I boot from a 7.2-1 CD.  It does & show up when I boot from the 7.3-2 CD.  A The HP web site for the drive does not list a driver for anything  before 7.3.  ? I wonder if there is a patch, driver, or work around for 7.2-1.    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 18:58:01 -0700 ( From: qagcwest@hotmail.com (Ian Burgess)H Subject: Re: Structure of SMTP Receiver - simple spam and content filter= Message-ID: <d03f1df2.0408041758.538b7955@posting.google.com>    Thanks for posting that, Jeff.   A comment on the procedure... K The part that decides whether a new version exists is a bit site dependent.   8 How about this: (just see if the version number changed)  # $ This = f$environment("procedure")  $Top: 2 $ Latest_version = F$search(F$element(0,";",This))1 $ If This .nes. Latest_version then goto resubmit  $  $ 
 $ wait 0:1:00 
 $ goto Top    
 $resubmit:, $ Submit 'Latest_version' /after="+00:01:00" $Exit     e "Jeff Morgan" <vmswiz@geonospamcities.com> wrote in message news:<cecjgs$7h1m$1@news3.infoave.net>... K > There's an easy way to do spam and content filtering on VMS. Check out my 4 > TEC (Test email content) DCL command procedure at: > 2 >         http://www.geocities.com/vmswiz/vms.html > L > What I do is stop the SMTP que on the VMS server and let the messages wait > in the que undelivered.  > N > TEC runs every 60 seconds in a batch que and checks the que for jobs waitingH > to be tested. If it approves the content inside the message, it simplyN > reques the job to a new SMTP server que called TCPIP$APPROVED that is alwaysI > started. These emails then get immediately delivered just like a normal ! > TCP/IP Services configuration..  > L > TEC uses the VMS search utility to search for any text strings that I wantL > it to filter. You can look for ".CMD", ".SCR", ".JPG" and any spam phrasesK > you want to find. I have some examples in the command file. Just copy the J > examples and add as many searches as your CPU can handle. Every time theN > spammers get smart and come up with a new technique, I just add a new search
 > command. > J > Anything TEC finds that it doesn't like, I reque to a special que calledN > TCPIP$SPAM that is always stopped. I can manually inspect those entries whenJ > I think I've missed a real email, or simply delete everything in the que > after a few days.  > : > The same filtering technique will also work on Multinet. > A > It isn't elegant but it is simple, flexible and has no software F > dependencies. I've thought about writing a program to do the contentN > filtering rather than image activate the SEARCH utility a few thousand times& > a day, but search works rather well. >  > And you can't beat the price.  >  > : - D  > N > If you make any improvements, please forward them to me so I can incorporate > your changes.  > 9 >                                                    Jeff  >  > --
 > Jeff Morgan C > VMS Consultant - with over 20 years experience doing VMS support, C > VMSclusters, networking, VMS web apps, BASIC/COBOL/FMS/DATATRIEVE 4 > applications, VAX to Alpha migrations, etc, etc... > vmswiz@geo-n0spam-cities.com >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:21:02 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>1 Subject: Summary:  BASIC debugging -- please help - Message-ID: <41110CEE.4078.DF053D0@localhost>   9 > Everything works until I exit the program.  Then I get:  > ' >%STR-F-ILLSTRCLA, illegal string class : >break on unhandled exception preceding SHARE$BASRTL+28330  F It turns out that I had added a call to SYS$GRANT_LICENSE, and didn't C pass the right stuff in the 4th argument.  I was only checking the  E returned status value, and wasn't checking anything else.  So, there    was a wild write into somewhere.  C Thanks for all the help -- looks like I might be able to ship this  
 thing now!  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2004 13:12:49 -0500 B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)H Subject: TECO manual location, was: Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS3 Message-ID: <qAwWc7zJ3zxe@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <040820041151544489%nospam@yrl.co.uk>, Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> writes: > - > The ASCII version is squirrelled away here: D > http://www.yrl.co.uk/~elliott/teco/teco.txt (there are three extra) > lines at the start, to help JAF with... . > .... a test of Asc2Html, the result is here:. > http://www.yrl.co.uk/~elliott/teco/teco.html2 > and there is a PDF of the output of Asc2RTF here- > http://www.yrl.co.uk/~elliott/teco/teco.pdf B > please tell us if you find a conversion error in either of them. >   4 The TECO manual is available from the HP website at:  @ http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/documentation/pdf/teco.pdf  D but Warren does not appear to currently have it in the documentation indexes for some reason.  G (I have not actually used TECO since I moved from RSTS/E to VMS and got B a decent alternative in the form of TPU; I just remember seeing it6 indexed in the VMS documentation library at one time.)   Simon.   -- sB Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       P SCO: Proudly pushing Microsoft down to #2 on the list of most disliked companies   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:33:04 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>aL Subject: RE: TECO manual location, was: Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMSR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB3DF470@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Clubley=20: > [mailto:clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP]=20 > Sent: August 4, 2004 2:13 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comy? > Subject: TECO manual location, was: Re: [Somewhat OT] What=20  > your non-OVMSk >=20> > In article <040820041151544489%nospam@yrl.co.uk>, Elliott=20" > Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> writes: > >=20/ > > The ASCII version is squirrelled away here: F > > http://www.yrl.co.uk/~elliott/teco/teco.txt (there are three extra+ > > lines at the start, to help JAF with...t0 > > .... a test of Asc2Html, the result is here:0 > > http://www.yrl.co.uk/~elliott/teco/teco.html4 > > and there is a PDF of the output of Asc2RTF here/ > > http://www.yrl.co.uk/~elliott/teco/teco.pdfaD > > please tell us if you find a conversion error in either of them. > >=20 >=206 > The TECO manual is available from the HP website at: >=20B > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/documentation/pdf/teco.pdf >=20F > but Warren does not appear to currently have it in the documentation > indexes for some reason. >=20@ > (I have not actually used TECO since I moved from RSTS/E to=20
 > VMS and gotnD > a decent alternative in the form of TPU; I just remember seeing it8 > indexed in the VMS documentation library at one time.) >=20 > Simon. >=20  H Thanks to Warren, the archived documents has been updated to include the TECO guide.M  
 Reference:+ http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/archived.htmlp   :-)    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660l Fax: 613-591-4477u Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:39:51 +0100i& From: Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk>L Subject: Re: TECO manual location, was: Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS1 Message-ID: <050820040039519105%nospam@yrl.co.uk>t  
 In articleG <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB3DF470@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>,@& Main, Kerry <kerry.main@hp.com> wrote:  fJ > Thanks to Warren, the archived documents has been updated to include the
 > TECO guide.9 >  > Reference:- > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/archived.htmlo >  > :-)g Ace!  = Did I hear somebody say there was no teco in Itanium VMS yet?e   Tell me it isn't so?   -- eC I thought I would be the last on earth to mangle my e-mail address.  fsnospam$elliott$$   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 22:33:48 +0800e, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>( Subject: Re: Touch Screen Voting systems0 Message-ID: <87n01bc6r7.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  * David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:  E > I think my biggest problem with some of the posts in this thread isv> > those from people who's job is to find solutions to problems? > claiming that this particular problem has no valid solutions.e  + What is the `problem' that is being solved?r  = There isn't one, it is just another way to mine the pocket...-   -- -< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.s@                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:07:54 -0700* From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com>( Subject: Re: Touch Screen Voting systems2 Message-ID: <FZ-dnfpfEJ-WqYzcRVn-rA@mpowercom.net>  6 "Alfred Falk" <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> wrote in message3 news:Xns953A90FB1F6FFfalkarcabca@198.161.157.145... / > "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> wrote in , > news:HpSdnUwgnsTfpJHc4p2dnA@mpowercom.net: > @ > > There's still a signature, but it's in the precinct book andG > > isn't recorded anywhere electronically.  The link from vote to name G > > can only be obtained with a tedious manual search, as it should be.  > / > No, it should be "cannot be obtained at all".Z > G In order to prove fraud the has to be a way to show the person actuallyrL voted.  There has been a significant increase in fraudulent registrations inA the county where I live, so much that the registrar has taken thehH unprecedented step of requiring ID (driver license, state ID, or utilityG bill with name on it, ironically the same used when buying firearms) intE order to register to vote, where it used to be only a signature on an I affadavit was required to register, no ID at all.  If there are some veryeF close races this year then removing fraudulent votes may significantlyK affect the results, though that hasn't happened to my knowledge in the lastt	 30 years.   K Anyone who uses a database manager knows there has to be a way to roll backgL transactions.  There has to be links in both directions between vote and the voter.   Jack Peacock   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:50:54 GMTe) From: Alfred Falk <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> ( Subject: Re: Touch Screen Voting systems9 Message-ID: <Xns953BA0E1054CBfalkarcabca@198.161.157.145>   - "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> wrote ina+ news:FZ-dnfpfEJ-WqYzcRVn-rA@mpowercom.net: n  8 > "Alfred Falk" <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> wrote in message5 > news:Xns953A90FB1F6FFfalkarcabca@198.161.157.145... 0 >> "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> wrote in- >> news:HpSdnUwgnsTfpJHc4p2dnA@mpowercom.net:. >>A >> > There's still a signature, but it's in the precinct book andrH >> > isn't recorded anywhere electronically.  The link from vote to nameH >> > can only be obtained with a tedious manual search, as it should be. >>0 >> No, it should be "cannot be obtained at all". >>@ > In order to prove fraud the has to be a way to show the personF > actually voted.  There has been a significant increase in fraudulentF > registrations in the county where I live, so much that the registrarC > has taken the unprecedented step of requiring ID (driver license,.E > state ID, or utility bill with name on it, ironically the same usedrF > when buying firearms) in order to register to vote, where it used toH > be only a signature on an affadavit was required to register, no ID atB > all.  If there are some very close races this year then removingD > fraudulent votes may significantly affect the results, though that7 > hasn't happened to my knowledge in the last 30 years.- > H > Anyone who uses a database manager knows there has to be a way to rollF > back transactions.  There has to be links in both directions between > vote and the voter.n >   Jack Peacock  E No there doesn't.  If there is, you don't have a secret ballot.  The lI paper procedure used in Canada creates a link between ballot which has a uE serial number and the voter's name.  However the ballot is separated t= from the serial number before being placed in the ballot box.pG This does mean that if an individual voted more than once, it could be  I proved later, but it would be impossible to withdraw only the fraudulent tD ballot from the count.  If the Chief Returning Officer, or a judge, B decided that enough fraud had take place in a riding to alter the C results, the election would have to be voided and re-rerun in that m riding.u. The system does require the following matches:8   Number of voters who voted = number of ballots countedG   Number of ballots used = number of ballots counted + ballots rejectede   F Having been a scrutineer in our recent federal election I would judge H that one person might be able to vote 30-40 times in one constituency.  E In most cases, he would need many partners to make a difference.  He  I would also need 30-40 pieces of identification showing an address within uH each of those polling districts, where he was certain the true occupant I would not be voting.  (Now, with collusion of the electoral officers and s, scrutineers... well, all bets are off then.) -- e@ ----------------------------------------------------------------A   A L B E R T A         Alfred Falk               falk@arc.ab.ca m@ R E S E A R C H         Information Systems Dept   (780)450-5185+   C O U N C I L         250 Karl Clark Roado1                         Edmonton, Alberta, Canada  http://www.arc.ab.ca/   T6N 1E4a  http://www.arc.ab.ca/staff/falk/   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.430 ************************