1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 06 Aug 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 432       Contents:+ RE: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!) + Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!) : Re: Linux Patents infrigment = Good oportunities for Tru64, Re: looking for used DEC hardware in England% Re: Multinet on VMS 5.5 please HELP !  Re: OT: Pretty good Linux ad Re: OT: Pretty good Linux ad Re: Phantom telnet connections Re: Phantom telnet connections. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!. RE: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!. Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!
 Postscript Re: Postscript/ Pros/Cons: Radeon 7500 vis-a-vis Powerstorm 350  Re: Questions About ICC  Re: RENAME MULTIPLES USERNAMES< Re: Restrictive protections on C header files - ECO problem? Re: rx2600 and SAS Re: rx2600 and SAS* Re: Storage works DAT 40 support on 7.2-1? Re: Touch Screen Voting systems 9 Ucx v4.0, network_mask set to 255.255.252.0 doesn't save. = Re: Ucx v4.0, network_mask set to 255.255.252.0 doesn't save.   Re: Which IP Networking Package?7 Will HP actively market OpenVMS into this market space?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 21:01:20 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> 4 Subject: RE: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB3DF514@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----? > From: GWDVMS::MOELLER [mailto:moeller@gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de]=20  > Sent: August 5, 2004 9:38 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 6 > Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!) >=20 > Admittedly, I'm late.=20 >=20@ > Looking only now at the large July 2004 ACCUWEATHER thread,=20? > I'd like to point out that there was an earlier mention of=20  > that company=20 H > on comp.os.vms, somewhat surprisingly provoking no responses whatever. >=20E > Take your favorite time-back machine and check out January 2000,=20 1 > for a post titled "Whatever the weather ..."=20  >=202 > Oh, I see, it doesn't mention "VMS". Or does it? >=20G > (If I remember correctly, that was about the time of Northernlight=20 A > folding, and I had thought then that everyone was eager for new = > 'publicly visible' VMS places. Maybe times are better now.)  >=206 > Wolfgang J. Moeller, Tel. +49 551 201-1516/-1510,=20 > moeller@gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de B > GWDG, D-37077 Goettingen, F.R.Germany     |    Disclaimer: No=20 > claim intended! = > http://www.gwdg.de/~moeller/ ---- <moeller@gwdg.de> ----=20  > <w.moeller@ieee.org> >=20   Wolfgang,=20  $ Re: public sites promoting OpenVMS -  H Check out full page OpenVMS Customer testimonial ad that appeared in WSJ a month or two ago. @ http://www.hp.com/adapt (select Cust stories, then International Securities Exchange)  G Also, as you mentioned there are some recent Customer video's that have  been made available as well:, http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 23:43:26 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 4 Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!), Message-ID: <BpGdnaQVu7wAYo_cRVn-oA@igs.net>   Main, Kerry wrote: >> -----Original Message----- = >> From: GWDVMS::MOELLER [mailto:moeller@gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de]  >> Sent: August 5, 2004 9:38 AM  >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com7 >> Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)  >> >> Admittedly, I'm late. >>> >> Looking only now at the large July 2004 ACCUWEATHER thread,= >> I'd like to point out that there was an earlier mention of  >> that company ? >> on comp.os.vms, somewhat surprisingly provoking no responses  >> whatever. >>C >> Take your favorite time-back machine and check out January 2000, / >> for a post titled "Whatever the weather ..."  >>3 >> Oh, I see, it doesn't mention "VMS". Or does it?  >>E >> (If I remember correctly, that was about the time of Northernlight B >> folding, and I had thought then that everyone was eager for new> >> 'publicly visible' VMS places. Maybe times are better now.) >>4 >> Wolfgang J. Moeller, Tel. +49 551 201-1516/-1510, >> moeller@gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de@ >> GWDG, D-37077 Goettingen, F.R.Germany     |    Disclaimer: No >> claim intended!; >> http://www.gwdg.de/~moeller/ ---- <moeller@gwdg.de> ----  >> <w.moeller@ieee.org>  >> >  > Wolfgang,  > & > Re: public sites promoting OpenVMS - > F > Check out full page OpenVMS Customer testimonial ad that appeared in > WSJ a month or two ago. B > http://www.hp.com/adapt (select Cust stories, then International > Securities Exchange) > D > Also, as you mentioned there are some recent Customer video's that# > have been made available as well: . > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/   Two scenarios for you:  I a) Guess what sales would be of Microsoft Windows if Microsoft advertised / Windows once every 2 months in one publication.   H b) Now guess what Windows sales are given the amount of advertising thatC they actually do in a wide variety of publications and other media.   J HP should advertise OpenVMS somewhere between these two scenarios, tending more towards scenario b).    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:31:36 -0400 3 From: Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> C Subject: Re: Linux Patents infrigment = Good oportunities for Tru64 0 Message-ID: <_sudnYddku0YQo_cRVn-hQ@comcast.com>   Fabio Cardoso wrote: > Read this  > e > http://news.com.com/Munich+halts+biggest-ever+Linux+migration/2100-7344_3-5298060.html?tag=nefd.top  > D > "The biggest-ever Windows-to-Linux migration--the city of Munich'sF > 14,000 desktops--has been put on ice while legal issues are settled. > B > The switch has been temporarily suspended over fears incoming EU? > legislation could cause the city a huge patent headache. Jens E > Muehlhaus, Munich's pro-Linux, Green Party alderman, has spotted 50 H > potential patent problems. Until they've been sorted, the migration is
 > on hold. > (...)" >  > E > May be its a good oportunity to improve the Tru64/HP-UX migration. @ > If Sun will transform Solaris x86 into Linux (its a kinda way > to abandon Sparc.  > H > I allways tought that SCO settlement had a "bit" of reason with these B > Linux Patent problems !  Linux is just a clone of Unix using its > similar architecture.   4 the SCO stuff is absolute crap, which is well known.  8 SCO has continually refused to show any infringing code.  2 it has all the hallmarks of a stock pump-and-dump.  = it also has nothing to do with patents, but rather copyright.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 23:40:32 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>5 Subject: Re: looking for used DEC hardware in England 5 Message-ID: <1040805233741.7326F-100000@Ives.egh.com>     On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, JOUKJ wrote:  1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: K > > Just in case anyone missed my post in comp.sys.dec, I'll be in England  K > > next week and am interested in giving used DEC hardware a good home in  M > > my hobbyist cluster.  I'm especially interested in 8-bit (SCSI-1 or fast  I > > narrow SCSI-2) SBB disks and BA-353 (pizza box) enclosures.  Also of  M > > interest are fast, small ALPHAs and colour monitors which will work with  M > > a VAXstation 4000 or an early ALPHA (cable with three fat plugs).  (I am  M > > assuming that if I run out of monitors for modern ALPHAs, then I can use  = > > a "standard PC" monitor.  I've never tried this, though.) G > You are right. I have a "standard" PC-monitor on one of my XP1000's.  G > When installing I had to play a little with the refresh rates of the   > monitor but it works.  >  >                     Jouk  C Even not-very-modern Alpha's work fine with "standard" PC monitors. > I have used 2 (the 1st one was a Viewsonic 17" that eventually@ flipped out, this one is a Hitachi 19" that still works fine) on< my AlphaStation 200 4/100.  Just plugged it in and it works.   --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 19:25:47 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>. Subject: Re: Multinet on VMS 5.5 please HELP !+ Message-ID: <4112D00B.541ABF55@comcast.net>    Andrew Robert wrote: > [snip]$ > % dd if=/dev/cdrom of=multinet.iso > [snip]  H I usually use an extension of .ODS for any ODS-2/5 track that I rip from< a CD. Helps me remember later what I can/cannot MOUNT it on.  B ...then again, Larry's LJK-CDROM poses an interesting paradox: theF filesystem in the resulting image is ISO-9660, yet the RMS buckets areF fully populated. So, you can MOUNT it on just about ANYthing! (WhetherC or not "anything" can understand the data is, of course, a separate  discussion.)   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 19:19:46 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>% Subject: Re: OT: Pretty good Linux ad * Message-ID: <4112CEA2.EE9921F@comcast.net>  
 HUMBUG wrote:  > F > On 4 Aug 2004 13:29:53 -0700, Benito <benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us> Wrote : >  > <snip> > > 1 > > I would like to see it. benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us  > F > After gzipping it it's still 2.7 meg. and too big for the Optus mail/ > servers to deal with aparently.... It's at :- = > http://members.optushome.com.au/forsythm/RunLinspire.swf.gz   D GZIP didn't do much, the uncompressed size is almost the same as the
 archive size.    ...but I've got it now. Thanx!   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 23:38:53 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> % Subject: Re: OT: Pretty good Linux ad , Message-ID: <EsGdncMIocz4Y4_cRVn-jQ@igs.net>   David J Dachtera wrote:  > HUMBUG wrote:  >>G >> On 4 Aug 2004 13:29:53 -0700, Benito <benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us> Wrote :  >>	 >> <snip>  >>> 1 >>> I would like to see it. benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us  >>G >> After gzipping it it's still 2.7 meg. and too big for the Optus mail 0 >> servers to deal with aparently.... It's at :-> >> http://members.optushome.com.au/forsythm/RunLinspire.swf.gz > F > GZIP didn't do much, the uncompressed size is almost the same as the > archive size.  >   > ...but I've got it now. Thanx!    J Most modern media formats are faily compressed to begin with, so .zip, et.@ al. will not tend to shrink the archive files down by very much.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:57:54 GMT 6 From: "Andy Bustamante" <a_c_bustamante@earthlink.net>' Subject: Re: Phantom telnet connections 9 Message-ID: <SXyQc.107$QJ3.71@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>   I I believe you're up to date for 5.0a.  We had some telnet issues at sites K where Pix firewalls are in use with 5.1 corrected under the the later ECOs. G If upgrading TCPIP is an issue, is there a firewall holding connections I open?  Our problem was having telnet sessions time out to the client, but H having the earlier Pix firmware hold the connection open on the internal network segment.   --       Andy Bustamante  Remove the ASCII 95s for e-mail     5 "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> wrote in message , news:XrqdnTrmFY_aGo_cRVn-tQ@mpowercom.net...G > The environment is VMS 7.2-1H1, TCP/IP V5.0A ECO 3.  When I do a SHOW G > SERVICE TELNET/FULL it displays a session limit of 50, and 48 active. H > However, a SHOW SYS indicates only 17 users are logged in with telnet. WhatJ > causes the phantom connections to persist, and how can I get rid of them) > without rebooting or restarting telnet?  >   Jack Peacock >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 23:56:23 -0400= From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@nfw-invalid.cibtrikker.com> ' Subject: Re: Phantom telnet connections 1 Message-ID: <V7SdneQFmc71nI7cRVn-pQ@adelphia.com>   K Do you see actual connections on there, or just devices?  The TN driver has F a QIO interface for management (i.e. TELNET SHOW DEVICE) as well as anF interface from the INETACP (In V5.0 I did away with the old "cloak andB dagger" interface that required all sorts of knowledge of TNDRIVERE internals).  You will therefore see a bunch of unconnected TN devices D lingering for up to a minute, I believe.  Now, there were a few bugsK introduced in some changes in the code that caused devices to linger either K longer or permanently.  If you can move forward with your TCPIP version ...   H Something that some people don't realize ... 5.1 (.2 which I don't thinkF anyone saw) and 5.3 ... while claimed that it requires 7.3+ to run, isL actually built against a 7.2-2 build environment (I know, because I put thisK environment together).  I need to verify this as a fact next week when I am 9 back from vacation, but I think this is indeed that case.    -John   5 "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> wrote in message , news:XrqdnTrmFY_aGo_cRVn-tQ@mpowercom.net...G > The environment is VMS 7.2-1H1, TCP/IP V5.0A ECO 3.  When I do a SHOW G > SERVICE TELNET/FULL it displays a session limit of 50, and 48 active. H > However, a SHOW SYS indicates only 17 users are logged in with telnet. WhatJ > causes the phantom connections to persist, and how can I get rid of them) > without rebooting or restarting telnet?  >   Jack Peacock >  >    ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:53:22 +0000 (UTC)= From: jlw@psulias.psu.edu (j.lance wilkinson, (814) 865-1818) 7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! - Message-ID: <cetvn2$vg2$1@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>   U >In article <2nepfvF32tuU1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: T >>In article <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB3DF487@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>,, >>	"Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> writes: >>> J >>> Well, with org's such as CERT recommending Customers no longer use IE,H >>> it may help to speed developers plans to test their pages with other
 >>> browsers.  >>H >>Don't get your hopes up.  For example, this place is in the process ofJ >>forcing people into using IE rather than any alternative (the "official"F >>browser here for years was Netscape) by making sure the University'sF >>webpages and all the web-based local admin programs (Banner, Oracle)E >>only work with IE.  This place is not atypical.  MS has a strangle- A >>hold on the industry and it isn't going to change anytime soon.   E  	Here at Penn State, however, the official line actively discourages  	dependence on IE.  See   - 		http://www.its.psu.edu/news/securityie.html   B 	(very possibly inaccessible outside the University, so I'll quote 	the relevant points)    	You Need to Know:R         * Disabling IE is not recommended since it is needed to obtain updates and% 	    critical patches from Microsoft. L     	* Web developers should make sure pages are accessible in all browsers.I 	* ITS highly recommends using one of the alternate browsers listed below  	    for routine Web browsing.  	Recommended Alternate Browsers:' 	    * Mozilla: http://www.mozilla.org/ # 	    * Opera: http://www.opera.com/ ; 	    * Safari (Mac OS X only): http://www.apple.com/safari/   D 	We've also been directed to, where possible, choose a non-MicroSoftF 	alternative.  This after his organization had to swallow the price ofE 	a site license for the latest cycle of the MS Client Access License.   E 	Refreshing after all these years.  Maybe my Novell servers will gain F 	some new ground now.  Unfortunately, we're being SUNburned on the VMS	 	front...   P +----"Never Underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of mag tapes"--+B | J.Lance Wilkinson ("Lance")		InterNet:  Lance.Wilkinson@psu.edu < | Systems Design Specialist - Lead	AT&T:      (814) 865-18189 | Digital Library Technologies		FAX:       (814) 863-3560 2 | 3 Paterno Library				"I'd rather be dancing..." B | Penn State University		    A host is a host from coast to coast,K | University Park, PA 16802	    And no one will talk to a host that's close C | <postmaster@psulias.psu.edu>	    Unless the host that isn't close : | EMail Professional since 1978	    Is busy, hung or dead.P +---------"He's dead, Jim. I'll get his tricorder. You take his wallet."-------+9                 [apologies to DeForest Kelley, 1920-1999] 3 <A Href="http://perdita.lcs.psu.edu">home page</a>  J <a Href="http://perdita.lcs.psu.edu/junkdec.htm">junk mail declaration</a> --	/"\ 	\ /	ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN 	 X	AGAINST HTML MAIL  	/ \   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:14:19 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> 7 Subject: RE: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB3DF511@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----A > From: Bruno Saverio Delbono [mailto:bruno.s.delbono@mail.ac]=20  > Sent: August 5, 2004 11:15 AM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 9 > Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks!  >=20 > Main, Kerry wrote: >=20B > > Fwiw, I use Opera (V7.53 current) exclusively and only fire=20 > up IE when IB > > absolutely have to. Most times I just ignore sites if Opera=20 > can not read
 > > it.=20 >=20 > Then you must know about:  >=20I > On 04-Feb-2003 GreyMagic released an advisory [1] concerning Opera's=20 H > security model in v7.0. The advisory depicted several flaws in Opera'sG > model, one of them allowed for an attacker to overwrite native and=20 B > custom functions in a victim window. When the victim web-page=20
 > executed=20 B > such function, the attacker's code executed with the victim's=20
 > privileges.  >=20B > Opera tried to prevent such scenarios in Opera 7.01, by blocking/ > write-access to objects on the victim window.  >=20< > [1] http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm002-op/   So what is your point?  D There is likely no SW product (ok, very few to be safe) in the worldF which has not had to provide a security related patch at some point in its history.=20   ' Opera released v7.54 to fix this issue: , http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/754/  G When an org like CERT actually goes out of its way to recommend getting E off IE and start using another browser, you would think organizations  would take this seriously.   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 05:45:16 +0200  From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>7 Subject: Re: Playwin says VMS gets NO viruses or hacks! - Message-ID: <ceuusb$1i9v$1@news.cybercity.dk>    John Smith wrote:  > David J Dachtera wrote:  >> "Dr. Dweeb" wrote:  >>>  >>> David J Dachtera wrote: & >>>> VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>>>> C >>>>> In article <d7791aa1.0408040659.216e8c28@posting.google.com>, 0 >>>>> bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes: >>>>>> >>>  > L http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&s2 > ubsection_code=1&file=template1.jsp&storyid=1297 >>>>> 0 >>>>> ... all I get is a banner ad for Symantec. >>>>: >>>> (Cue: the usual blather about non-standard browsers.) >>>> >>>> D.J.D.  >>> E >>> I think we have to get used to the idea that some massively large G >>> number of web developers use IE as their reference browser and test D >>> on ZERO others. This disturbs me as well, but the bottom line isH >>> that it indicative of the target audience for the content.  It might? >>> also indicate that the IT managers responsible for said web H >>> development believe certain truths that might, in fact, not be true. >>H >> The truth is that M$ is de-facto standard, not an "industry" standardD >> (that is, it is not required by any specifications negotiated and3 >> accepted industry wide - it is ubiquitous only).  >>F >>> In any case, the web-page in question reads fine on IE 6.x as wellD >>> as FireFox 0.9.1, Mozilla 1.7 and Opera 7.23 and for this test I >>> upgraded to @ >>> 7.53 which also works.  I use AdExtinguisher service for addH >>> blocking and MyIE2 instead of standard IE, all running on Win2K.  SoG >>> I think that the web page in question is probably better than most. 	 >>> YMMV.  >>A >> With the re-emergence of non-M$ browsers and other products, I E >> anticipate a change in the "environment" that will probably happen D >> slowly, and will not be an "IE killer" - it will just require webG >> developers to look beyond Redmond in order to maximize the return on - >> their efforts and development investments.  >>	 >> D.J.D.  > F > All it takes is for some keynote speakers at conferences where CIO'sF > attend to stand up and say, "With all the problems Internet ExplorerF > has, more and more of your customers are turning towards using otherF > web browsers to surf your web sites. You, as CIO's, must ensure thatG > you do not alienate those customers and potential customers by having D > your web pages display poorly or not at all. For that reason aloneD > you should insist in all your internal web development, and in theD > contracts for all out-sourced web development, that your web pagesE > successfully comply with the standards at http://validator.w3.org."  >  >  > T   J Man, I could have sworn I saw a pig flying overhead as I arrived home this evening :-) K Its fashion week here and all the babes are out - free booze, free food and  free fun.  Glurrrrp.  	 stay cool  Dweeb    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:52:19 -0600 " From: GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> Subject: Postscript 0 Message-ID: <w5Odnax1FYIqJI_cRVn-uQ@bresnan.com>   For those that are IT pros...   = Is postscript a protocol or just a complete turing language??    --  ! ---------------------------------  My other computer is a VAX.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 23:31:34 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr") Subject: Re: Postscript 6 Message-ID: <00A35E92.22CC88C7@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  U In article <w5Odnax1FYIqJI_cRVn-uQ@bresnan.com>, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> writes:  >For those that are IT pros... > > >Is postscript a protocol or just a complete turing language??  , It's a Turing-complete (FORTHlike) language.   -- Alan    --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Aug 2004 11:43:36 -0700 - From: pdafniotis@yahoo.com (Petros Dafniotis) 8 Subject: Pros/Cons: Radeon 7500 vis-a-vis Powerstorm 350= Message-ID: <e54adf36.0408051043.66a4ba82@posting.google.com>   ? As subject says I am looking for the pros/cons of a radeon 7500  vis-a-vis a Powerstorm 350.   F I run now on the Radeon 7500 but I have a 2nd hand Powerstorm 350 that2 I could get. What are the pros/cons in doing this?  5 The Powerstorm looks enormous compared to the Radeon.   ! Oh, I am running an Alpha XP1000.   
 Kind regards,  Petros   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 15:17:18 -0500 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>  Subject: Re: Questions About ICCD Message-ID: <craigberry-6C477D.15171805082004@news.isp.giganews.com>  8 In article <hjg2h0t8n7vcf6l52udt1ghhcf25qrim84@4ax.com>,'  Sarah Page <sarah.page@sas.com> wrote:   0 > 4) Where can I find more doc about ICC?  . . .! > Programming examples in C would  > be outstanding right now.   7 There is a Perl extension (written in C) that does ICC:   2 http://search.cpan.org/~dsugal/vms-icc-0_02/icc.pm    E That will by no means answer all of your questions (particularly the  D thread/AST dilemma) but it may be a place to get started.  It might ' also be useful for prototyping/testing.    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Aug 2004 11:17:29 -0700 % From: piccard@ohio.edu (Dick Piccard) ' Subject: Re: RENAME MULTIPLES USERNAMES = Message-ID: <17bd57ed.0408051017.687f9179@posting.google.com>   b lewis@PROBE.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) wrote in message news:<cetfbr$nt0$1@newslocal.mitre.org>... > da2341@cedar.ca.sbc.com writes in article <04080415544454_11096@cedar.ca.sbc.com> dated Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:54:44 -0700 (PDT): = > >Doe anyone has a dcl command procedure to rename multiple  ' > >usernames and eache users directory?  > K > I have one which takes 3 arguments -- old username, new username, and new L > temporary password.  It renames the user, directory, and DECnet proxy; and > also sets mail forwarding.   > M > It's completely non-interactive, so you could invoke it multiple times from I > a master command procedure to rename multiple users.  If you think this 2 > would be useful to you, I can send you a copy.   > 2 > --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org@ > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.  B Let me emphasize someting the original poster may not realize, butD which is implicit in Keith's approach:  when you change the usernameB on an account, you MUST also re-set the password.  This is becauseD what is stored in SYSUAF.DAT for comparison with login-time-suppliedD information is the hashed combination of the username, the password,- and the "seed", not just the password itself.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 19:35:50 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>E Subject: Re: Restrictive protections on C header files - ECO problem? + Message-ID: <4112D266.54C19793@comcast.net>    Brad McCusker wrote: > I > <sms@antinode.org> wrote in message news:04080421570913@antinode.org... * > > From: David M Smith <dsmit115@csc.com> > > M > > > Steve, I think you're right that it is a bug in the VMS731_ACRTL patch. 
 > I lookedK > > > on my system and I see the same thing for those specific files. In my  > case, the J > > > modification date on those files is the date I installed a number of
 > patches,: > > > including the ACRTL-V0300 patch which you mentioned. > > > [...]  > > J > >    Looks like a pretty thorough analysis to me.  Thanks.  (In my case,J > > VMS731_ACRTL was the only one I did that day, so it was more obvious.) > > > > >    Is anyone on the patch creation squad paying attention? > >  > K > Yep, I'm hear, and listening.  David Smith did a great job analyzing this  > problem, thank you.  > F > The LIBEXT.EXE tool we (ACRTL team) get from the compiler team.  ItsL > actually a black box to me.  It should be the exact same image used by theL > compiler to fill out the reference area during compiler installs, and, so,; > it kind of surprises me that there is suddenly a problem.  > J > I'll report the bug in our internal systems, hopefully by the time we do > another ECO, we'll fix it.  G Please consider releasing LIBEXT to the freeware CD. I mean, you can do F it in DCL - it's been done since the CompuServe VAX Forum days - but aG program just "feels better" in some ways, especaiily to those of us who ? remember that DCLdiet and such was once a staple of the VAX DCL  programmer's toolkit.    D.J.D.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 22:21:56 +02000 From: "Jerome" <jeromeatforissierdotorg@no.spam> Subject: Re: rx2600 and SAS 6 Message-ID: <ceu525$s00$1@aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>   Nigel Barker wrote: G > On 5 Aug 2004 16:36:55 GMT, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:  > ; >> In article <7tl4h0t03qurntn42h2lf4ucincedob9mn@4ax.com>, & >> Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> writes: >>> - >>>                 There is ADA to come too.  >> >> Not from HP!! >  <snip>F > The latest Ada standard is called Ada 95.  Since the decision to notG > support the Ada 95 standard within our own product, we have partnered G > with a company in NY called Applied Core Technology (ACT) who produce 6 > an Ada 95 compliant product, GNAT for OpenVMS Alpha.  > ACT stands for AdaCore Technologies (http://www.adacore.com or http://www.gnat.com/).G GNAT is an Open Source ADA compiler, based on the GCC compiler backend.    --   Jerome   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Aug 2004 21:33:38 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: rx2600 and SAS 3 Message-ID: <Q2ktW3CydXSI@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <trj4h0t4lt80o19p3rc8eghsaa2tfpe6mg@4ax.com>, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> writes:I > On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:15:43 -0700, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote:  > E >>< There is no evaluation copy to download but you can purchase for   >>< $75 a Software? >>< Developers Kit with all compilers & other layered products.  >>! >>All? Well, with some compilers.  > R > OK, it ships with C, Fortran, COBOL & Macro32 plus you can download C++, BASIC &Q > Pascal as they weren't available when the CDs were mastered. That's pretty much K > all the compilers. Don't tell me you only wanted PL/1 as that isn't being  > ported:-).  D I gather it also does not include the Ada95 compiler VMS Development said would be available.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 19:41:25 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>3 Subject: Re: Storage works DAT 40 support on 7.2-1? + Message-ID: <4112D3B5.E6AA1E53@comcast.net>    Tom Adams wrote: > g > David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<411140CA.DB7FD076@comcast.net>...  > > Tom Adams wrote: > > > I > > > I just bought a new DS10 and it came with a HP Storage works DAT 40 
 > > > HotPlug  > > > tape drive.  > > > # > > > Can it be used on  VMS 7.2-1?  > > > K > > > The tape drive does not show up when I boot from a 7.2-1 CD.  It does , > > > show up when I boot from the 7.3-2 CD. > > > G > > > The HP web site for the drive does not list a driver for anything  > > > before
 > > > 7.3. > > > E > > > I wonder if there is a patch, driver, or work around for 7.2-1.  > > F > > Well, V7.2 pre-dates hp by a good margin. How goes it with V7.3-1? > ' > The tape drive is supported on 7.3-1.  >  > > J > > ...and is there anything tying you V7.2-1? Can you upgrade VMS without > > breaking anything? > > 
 > > D.J.D. > G > I have 3rd party software that I need to explore.  That could lock me ? > to 7.2-1 or I might need get upgrades.  I am going to have to  > scramble.  > F > The idea that you can buy a new Alpha and have it work on an earlierH > version of VMS is a bit of crock.  You have to check on each board andF > component that they send with it.  One of the boards required 7.2-2.  H Well, be careful there. What the CPU itself requires is one thing; other* cards are quite another, as you observed.   D When we upgraded one of our systems from an Alpha 4000 to an ES40, IF actually had to use my hobbyist system to make a stand-alone V7.1-2 CDG so I could upgrade the system disk from V6.2-1H3 to V7.2-2. ES40 needs, B at a minimum to run successfully, V7.1-2 plus ECOs, and won't boot V6.2-1H3 at all.  A However, the ES40 has some cards in it that did not show up under 7 V7.1-2, even though they were "visible" at the console.    D.J.D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 18:33:05 GMT % From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> ( Subject: Re: Touch Screen Voting systemsL Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0408051231570.10256-100000@localhost.localdomain>  " On 30 Jul 2004, Bob Koehler wrote:  ^ > In article <410AAEB8.85123267@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:2 > > What would be wrong with the following system: > > A > > Electronic voting multiple booths in one polling station. One 5 > > printer in an enclosed, totally opaque enclosure.  > % >    You've never seen a printer jam?  >  >   2 Not in an enclosed, totally opaque enclosure.  ;-)   --    B Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o mA G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (866)438-2101 (voice) toll free! 6 Edmonton                         (780)438-9343 (voice)4                                  (780)437-3367 (FAX)1                                  http://gmcl.com/    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Aug 2004 11:39:24 -0700 $ From: paul.yee@heroix.com (Paul Yee)B Subject: Ucx v4.0, network_mask set to 255.255.252.0 doesn't save.= Message-ID: <69011ae9.0408051039.2339bbdf@posting.google.com>    Hello,B Thanks in advance for your help.  I am running an old vax machine:  6   Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V4.0.   on a VAXstation 4000-60 running OpenVMS V6.2  C I run @sys$startup:ucx$config, select 1 and 4 and get 255.255.252.0G for the network mask:u   INTERFACE ConfigurationC    8         The Ethernet device(s) on your system are: ESA0:  D         Start of configuration questions for Internet interface SE0.(         SE0 is the Ethernet device ESA0:    Interface: SE0i?    IP_Addr: 192.168.7.100     NETWRK: 255.255.252.0     BRDCST:O
 192.168.7.255k?     C_Addr:                 C_NETWRK:                 C_BRDCST:e  	    Flags:     Receive buffer:            0P  C However, I have stopped and restarted ucx and see 255.255.255.0 forS	 the mask:i   $ ucx sho interface se0eB                                                            PacketsB Interface   IP_Addr         Network mask          Receive          Send     MTU  B  SE0        192.168.7.100   255.255.255.0           63407          1440    1500  A Any ideas on how to make 255.255.252.0 stick?  My Dns servers andl@ gateway are on the other subnets so I need this to work for name resolution and internet access.-   Thanks,- Paul   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:32:34 -0700y From: JBloggs@acme.comF Subject: Re: Ucx v4.0, network_mask set to 255.255.252.0 doesn't save.8 Message-ID: <j5g5h0hilk4klrl2j7p1ahedd9ke9nk5gn@4ax.com>  C On 5 Aug 2004 11:39:24 -0700, paul.yee@heroix.com (Paul Yee) wrote:@   >Hello,.  D >However, I have stopped and restarted ucx and see 255.255.255.0 for
 >the mask: >$ ucx sho interface se0 nB >                                                          PacketsC >Interface   IP_Addr         Network mask          Receive         t
 >Send     MTUtC > SE0        192.168.7.100   255.255.255.0           63407         s
 >1440    1500s   Can you post the output of :  ! $ UCX show CONFIG interface se0  i; $! pemanent setting from a: $ ucx Set Route <mumble> /PERM    2 You might also, possibly, be  running up against  = lack of  CIDR/supernetting support in earlier versions of UCXe  9 though I think UCX 4.x had this support, I'm not positive    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 01:24:29 +0100< From: "Alex Daniels" <AlexNOSPAMTHANKSDaniels@themail.co.uk>) Subject: Re: Which IP Networking Package?-5 Message-ID: <4112cfc1$0$7125$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>   K I have used all three, and would happily run with any of them, I have never L gone to a site and activily tried to get rid of one, not something I can say about some other products.  J I would say in TCP/IP Services defence, they have done a massive amount ofK work on the Kernel for 5.4, (although the functionailty is NOT turned on by.G default, but is in 5.5), there were customer update days explaining the 8 enchancements, and there is a paper about it on the web.  F I would reccomend reading this, and suggest it as required reading for anyone with SMP boxes.  H http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/journal/v4/tcp_ip_scalable_kernel.html  K My own performance analysis has also concured with their claims. To now saynK the TCP/IP Services kernel 'is just the bsd one' is somewhat incorrect postg6 5.4 (with the performance kernel turned on) or in 5.5.  I I do however agree that the user interface is starting to lack, while the E menu stuff is fine, in TCPIP> there are to many syntax inconsistancesn between different commands.   L Also the gradual unixisation is pretty poor, and the people concerned should* really take a look at what they are doing.  K The new TCPDUMP port is a good example, yes its cool and can do many thingstB tcptrace (written in macro by the way, so doubt we'll see many newF improvements with it) can't, but would it really have been that big anJ effort to add a few '/whatever' commands rather than forcing people to use  quoted unix switches (eg "-B") ?  K Same unixisation can be said for various other parts of TCP/IP Services, at I least some other hp products like WEBES have had the integrity to add VMSa" alternatives in, so one can chose.  H Ah well, with a lot of unix customers now migrating to VMS its handy for) them to have commands they know I guess..g   Alex   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:15:52 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>)@ Subject: Will HP actively market OpenVMS into this market space?, Message-ID: <PYednYoREcoALI_cRVn-oQ@igs.net>  F Security begins with a robust operating system capable of handling any  disaster, man-made or otherwise.    --------------------------------  A Terrorist Alert Will Prompt Higher Financial Services IT SpendingV  I The recent terrorism alert based on the discovery of "unusually specific" I plans to target five financial-services institutions -- including the NewiD York Stock Exchange (NYSE) and Citigroup in New York -- will triggerG increased IT spending by those threatened locations and other financiall  institutions watching from afar.  I In 2004, TowerGroup estimates that the global financial-services industry L will spend nearly $4 billion on the field of operational resiliency -- whichH encompasses protecting people, processes and infrastructure based on theI notion that there should be no disruption in businesses in the event of atK terrorist attack or outage. Spending will grow by 9.4 percent annually over L the next three years, rising to $5.23 billion in 2007, TowerGroup estimates.  A "IT spending on operational resiliency, unlike any other area, isnL susceptible to spikes after an event," says Virginia Garcia, senior analyst,J financial services strategies and IT investments at TowerGroup in Needham,I Mass. Garcia says that after the World Trade Center attack she saw a 19.2sE percent increase in spending on operational resiliency, and after the . blackout of 2003, spending shot up 12 percent.  J Most of the five financial institutions mentioned in the terrorism threat,D including the Citigroup building in midtown Manhattan; the NYSE; theL Prudential Building in Newark, N.J.; and the International Monetary Fund andL World Bank in Washington, D.C., are fully resilient in the back office, saysH Garcia. Citigroup can perform load balancing across the globe, she adds.  L Still, there is the view that securities and investment firms that are stillJ heavily concentrated in New York are vulnerable to an attack, says Garcia.F On Sunday night, other Wall Street firms, including the American StockI Exchange, Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley andiI Nasdaq, were briefed about the terrorist warning and security measures by G police officials from the counter-terrorism bureau and the intelligences	 division.r  K In a release on Monday, Donald Donahue, president and COO at the DepositoryaI Trust Corporation, who is also sector coordinator for banking and finance-F and chairman of the Financial Services Sector Coordinating Council forL Critical Infrastructure Protection and Homeland Security, stated: "FinancialL services firms are putting in place special security precautions -- over andJ above the strengthened procedures we already follow -- in light of the new
 information."m  C The largest firms have made considerable investments in systems andrI infrastructure, such as those made in back-up systems, storage and remote.H mirroring technologies, Garcia notes in a comment piece. "The concern isG greater for smaller institutions that have so far not been able to fundeJ high-tech back-up facilities. More frequent testing is required [every fewL months], and that is not cheap, and it factors into IT spending growth," she says.   J Even though Wall Street firms have shored up their back offices, there areH still vulnerabilities in the front office, such as enabling employees toI work from remote locations, and dispersion of key executives to differentpK locations, as well as cyber security, which can open the door to terrorism, H warns Garcia. Other financial centers in global markets, such as London,L will be watching what securities firms do to secure their buildings, and the- same goes for Asian cities as well, she says."  B With the NYSE building singled out as a target, one concern is theG resilience of the stock market. Though the NYSE reportedly has a backup8H trading facility for floor brokers and specialists located in one of theB other boroughs, one advocate of electronic trading says the NasdaqL marketplace would be able to takeover trading of NYSE stocks in the event ofL an attack. "It would be very difficult to take Nasdaq down because there areD so many nodes of the distributed network," says Steve Swanson, chiefK executive officer and chairman of Automated Trading Desk in Mount Pleasant,o South Carolina.   G Swanson lumps electronic communications networks (ECNs) with the NasdaqtH model of having a distributed infrastructure and being fully electronic.J "You are less dependent upon individual traders that are on the floor," heK says. Though Swanson says he's "heard the NYSE is prepared to flip a switch.G and anything can run electronically," he's not sure that's the case. On0L Monday, NYSE CEO John Thain announced plans to increase automated trading inK a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. "If a terrorist event K did occur, they could go to their super-secret location and just turn it on H as a giant ECN/exchange," he says. "But I don't think that transition is2 going to occur until the next 18 months," he adds.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.432 ************************