1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 13 Aug 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 447       Contents:
 BSAFE for VMS  Re: BSAFE for VMS  Re: Exending console timeout?  Re: Exending console timeout?  Re: Front page strikes, How to block many IP#s with Bad-Client list?' HP - Other heads on the chopping block? + Re: HP - Other heads on the chopping block? + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + RE: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: HP servers management shakeup happening + Re: IBM overhauls iSeries for the long haul   In the Wall Street Journal today- Re: Interex: Fiorina Ousts Three Senior Execs 0 Re: It's a pity they didn't survey OpenVMS users+ Re: Looking for MUMPS - CACHE specialists!!  Looking for VMS experts opinion # Re: Looking for VMS experts opinion  Re: Meet the new faces - Re: Meet the new faces - Re: Meet the new faces - Re: MPlayer is a DVD player 0 Re: NONSHRADR and NONRES messages at end of boot3 Re: PWIP driver won't start on TCPIP 5.4 after ECO2 , Re: Queue Manager in a heterogeneous cluster' Re: Rejecting network access to service ' Re: Rejecting network access to service ' RE: Rejecting network access to service ' Re: Rejecting network access to service  Samba on OpenVMS webservers for VMS/I64?  RE: webservers for VMS/I64?  Re: webservers for VMS/I64? 9 [OT..sort of]: IBM lifts global hiring forecast to 18,800 = Re: [OT..sort of]: IBM lifts global hiring forecast to 18,800 - [OT]: Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plan 1 RE: [OT]: Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plan   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:04:11 GMT  From: "ups" <ups@hotovice.com> Subject: BSAFE for VMS2 Message-ID: <fu%Sc.7950$tZ4.1476@news.cpqcorp.net>   Hi,   H Where can I get information regarding BSAFE crypt library (RC4) for VMS.   Regards,	 Upadhyaya    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 09:02:49 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: BSAFE for VMS3 Message-ID: <10KknPYsjKJZ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   S In article <fu%Sc.7950$tZ4.1476@news.cpqcorp.net>, "ups" <ups@hotovice.com> writes:  > Hi,  > J > Where can I get information regarding BSAFE crypt library (RC4) for VMS.  $ From the vendor - RSA Data Security.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 04:51:56 -0700% From: tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) & Subject: Re: Exending console timeout?= Message-ID: <ea44f5a1.0408130351.4c0b6c55@posting.google.com>   K Z <z@no.spam> wrote in message news:<10hoaopju6p5666@corp.supernews.com>...  > Tom Adams wrote:H > > Is there any way to increase the console timeout so that the consoleI > > will not go blank if there is no keyboard or mouse activity for a few  > > minutes? > 0 > There's a screen saver setting on the Desktop. > ? > IIRC, click on the icon with the mouse (lower right hand side , > of CDE) and find the screen icon in there.  E We are not using the CDE.  Our workstations are configured to use the  older style graphics interface.    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 05:43:42 -0700. From: martinkirby12@yahoo.co.uk (Martin Kirby)& Subject: Re: Exending console timeout?< Message-ID: <224291b.0408130443.29417613@posting.google.com>   After login,5   New Desktop, screen saver settings in style manager >   Traditional Desktop, in the Screen Background Options dialog  
 Before login, C   There are some settings to control this. I have never tried them. N       http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732final/documentation/pdf/dw_managing.pdf#   Section 3.2.10 Screen Saver Setup    Martin Kirby A DECwindows maintainer   j tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) wrote in message news:<ea44f5a1.0408121621.2949ee28@posting.google.com>...[ > "Hank Vander Waal" <hvanderw@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<6237001@MVB.SAIC.COM>...   > > What kind of console is it?? > >  > > VT terminal ???  >  > Graphics console, X-terminal >  > >  > > -----Original Message-----1 > > From: Tom Adams [mailto:tadamsmar@yahoo.com]  + > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:23 AM  > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com & > > Subject: Exending console timeout? > > H > > Is there any way to increase the console timeout so that the consoleI > > will not go blank if there is no keyboard or mouse activity for a few  > > minutes?   ------------------------------   Date: 13 Aug 2004 14:12:38 GMT& From: Frank da Cruz <fdc@columbia.edu> Subject: Re: Front page strikes 7 Message-ID: <slrnchpj2m.4jg.fdc@sesame.cc.columbia.edu>   D On 2004-08-12, Carl Karcher <karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu> wrote:G : In a previous article, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.dontspxmhim.com> wrote:  : ...   K : ->You can always manually copy over the files using another PC FTP client H : ->that behaves correctly e.g. WS_FTP or FlashFXP although these aren't : ->integrated into Front Page.  : K : I've yet to find a PC ftp client (including WS_FTP) that can handle (i.e. N : doesn't choke on) the ^ "escape" character used in extended ODS-5 filenames. : $ You might want to look at Kermit 95:  )   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html   K Aside from being a VT320 emulator and serial-port/dialup/Telnet/SSH client, ; it's also an FTP (and FTPS and Kerberized FTP) client that:   C  . Switches between text ("ascii") and binary mode automatically on     a per-file basis.  J  . Doesn't choke on filenames that contain "^." sequences or multiple dots    (i.e. takes them literally).   D  . Has an *option* for converting multiple dot files on upload; e.g.    a.b.c to becomes a_b.c.  J If it receives a file with a name like a^.b.c, it does not have a built-inC way to change the name to a.b.c, but you can configure it to; e.g.:   0   mget /rename-to:\freplace(\v(filename),^.,.) *  & More about the Kermit FTP client here:  /   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftpclient.html    - Frank    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:09:20 +0000 (UTC) * From: bleau@UMTOF.UMD.EDU (Lawrence Bleau)5 Subject: How to block many IP#s with Bad-Client list? 0 Message-ID: <cfisk0$o71$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>  A Hello, I have a question about an anti-spam feature of TCPIP: the J Bad-Client list.  Here's my version: TCPIP V5.4 - ECO 1 on OpenVMS V7.3-2.  G We are blocking a lot of sites because we're getting so much spam.  The G Bad-Client list is quite long.  Btw, I noticed that it has to be all on I one line, else subsequent lines are ignored.  Maybe this can get fixed in  the future.   J Anyway, the problem is that, once the Bad-Client line gets over 512 chars,I it ignores that line altogether, and treats it like we don't have any bad  clients declared.   1 Does anyone know of a fix or workaround for this?    Lawrence Bleau University of Maryland" Physics Dept., Space Physics Group 301-405-6223 bleau@umtof.umd.edu    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 08:55:51 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 0 Subject: HP - Other heads on the chopping block?, Message-ID: <DIKdnfCCC4f8J4HcRVn-sg@igs.net>  I http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=28700191       . HP Shakes Up Execs After Disappointing Results  
 Aug. 12, 2004   L Three key executives in the company's top enterprise server and storage unitF were replaced after the division posted a $208 million operating loss. By Darrell Dunn       J Hewlett-Packard fired three top managers Thursday after reporting that itsG Enterprise Servers and Storage Group experienced a sales decline in the  third quarter.  H Following the earnings announcement, chairman and CEO Carly Fiorina saidI Mike Winkler will replace Peter Blackmore as executive VP of the Customer L Solutions Group; Jack Novia will replace Jim Milton as the group's senior VPE and managing director for the Americas region; and Bernard Meric will H replace Kasper Rorsted as the group's senior VP and managing director of Europe.   H Winkler has served as chief marketing officer and will retain that role.F Novia was senior VP and general manager of the HP Technology SolutionsL Group. Meric was senior VP of the Imaging and Printing Group for the Europe,K Middle East, and Africa region. An HP spokesman said he wasn't aware of any  other planned changes.  J "It's pretty clear that heads will roll," says Jonathon Eunice, an analystJ with Illuminata. "If you're a customer with certain personal relationshipsH with some of the people inside that organization, you'd better brace forH change. Anyone with responsibility within that organization is at risk."  K Executives on the hot seat could include Ann Livermore, an executive VP who I earlier this year was placed in charge of the Technology Solutions Group, L which includes Enterprise Servers and Storage, and Bob Shultz, senior VP andL general manager of the Network Storage Solutions business unit, Eunice says.  K "Execution issues cost us, and we are therefore making immediate management ( changes," Fiorina said in the statement.  J Solid results by the company overall "were overshadowed" by the EnterpriseJ Servers and Storage Group's performance, where revenue was down 5% year toG year and down about 15% compared with the second quarter, she said. The J segment suffered an operating loss of $208 million, after revenue declinesL of 8% year over year in its Business Critical Server business and 15% in its storage business.   B Fiorina pointed to three issues that led to problems, resulting inI shortfalls in revenue of about $400 million and operating profit of about E $270 million. The company "executed poorly" on the migration to a new I order-processing and supply-chain system, which led to missing some sales E opportunities. The problems also required the company to take special I measures to ensure deliveries, including fulfilling some direct orders by J its channel partners and expediting orders with air shipment, which led to erosion of gross margins.   H Second, there were channel-management issues in Europe, including overlyJ aggressive discounting and a transition to centralized claims process. The7 channel claims process has been resolved, Fiorina said.   F The company also experienced declines in average selling prices in its storage business.   G New introductions within HP's storage business in May, as well as those K planned for September, are expected to strengthen the company's position in  that business, Fiorina said.  A Overall, the Enterprise Servers and Storage unit should return to . profitability in the fourth quarter, she said.  H The company reported earnings of $586 million, or 19 cents per share, onI revenue of $18.9 billion in the quarter ended July 31. That compares with L earnings of $884 million, or 29 cents per share, on revenue of $20.1 billionF in the previous quarter, and earnings of $297 million, or 10 cents per> share, on revenue of $17.3 billion in same quarter a year ago.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:08:37 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> 4 Subject: Re: HP - Other heads on the chopping block?6 Message-ID: <FX3Tc.7$Rx5.2@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   John Smith wrote:   K > http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=28700191  >  >  > 0 > HP Shakes Up Execs After Disappointing Results >  > Aug. 12, 2004  > N > Three key executives in the company's top enterprise server and storage unitH > were replaced after the division posted a $208 million operating loss. > By Darrell Dunn  >  >  > L > Hewlett-Packard fired three top managers Thursday after reporting that itsI > Enterprise Servers and Storage Group experienced a sales decline in the  > third quarter. > J > Following the earnings announcement, chairman and CEO Carly Fiorina saidK > Mike Winkler will replace Peter Blackmore as executive VP of the Customer N > Solutions Group; Jack Novia will replace Jim Milton as the group's senior VPG > and managing director for the Americas region; and Bernard Meric will J > replace Kasper Rorsted as the group's senior VP and managing director of	 > Europe.  > J > Winkler has served as chief marketing officer and will retain that role.H > Novia was senior VP and general manager of the HP Technology SolutionsN > Group. Meric was senior VP of the Imaging and Printing Group for the Europe,M > Middle East, and Africa region. An HP spokesman said he wasn't aware of any  > other planned changes. > L > "It's pretty clear that heads will roll," says Jonathon Eunice, an analystL > with Illuminata. "If you're a customer with certain personal relationshipsJ > with some of the people inside that organization, you'd better brace forJ > change. Anyone with responsibility within that organization is at risk." > M > Executives on the hot seat could include Ann Livermore, an executive VP who K > earlier this year was placed in charge of the Technology Solutions Group, N > which includes Enterprise Servers and Storage, and Bob Shultz, senior VP andN > general manager of the Network Storage Solutions business unit, Eunice says. > M > "Execution issues cost us, and we are therefore making immediate management * > changes," Fiorina said in the statement. > L > Solid results by the company overall "were overshadowed" by the EnterpriseL > Servers and Storage Group's performance, where revenue was down 5% year toI > year and down about 15% compared with the second quarter, she said. The L > segment suffered an operating loss of $208 million, after revenue declinesN > of 8% year over year in its Business Critical Server business and 15% in its > storage business.  > D > Fiorina pointed to three issues that led to problems, resulting inK > shortfalls in revenue of about $400 million and operating profit of about G > $270 million. The company "executed poorly" on the migration to a new K > order-processing and supply-chain system, which led to missing some sales G > opportunities. The problems also required the company to take special K > measures to ensure deliveries, including fulfilling some direct orders by L > its channel partners and expediting orders with air shipment, which led to > erosion of gross margins.  > J > Second, there were channel-management issues in Europe, including overlyL > aggressive discounting and a transition to centralized claims process. The9 > channel claims process has been resolved, Fiorina said.  > H > The company also experienced declines in average selling prices in its > storage business.  > I > New introductions within HP's storage business in May, as well as those M > planned for September, are expected to strengthen the company's position in  > that business, Fiorina said. > C > Overall, the Enterprise Servers and Storage unit should return to 0 > profitability in the fourth quarter, she said. > J > The company reported earnings of $586 million, or 19 cents per share, onK > revenue of $18.9 billion in the quarter ended July 31. That compares with N > earnings of $884 million, or 29 cents per share, on revenue of $20.1 billionH > in the previous quarter, and earnings of $297 million, or 10 cents per@ > share, on revenue of $17.3 billion in same quarter a year ago. >  >      from the Interex clip:  L "Enterprise Servers and Storage reported revenue of $3.4 billion, down five J percent from the same quarter last year. Business Critical Server revenue M dropped eight percent to $828 million; Alpha fell by 32 percent, and NonStop  O declined by 25 percent. UNIX revenue, however, rose eight percent and Industry  + Standard Server revenue grew two percent. "       Q it is little wonder that Alpha slipped 32% when there was virtually no marketing  ' of the products... what do they expect?    --   Michael Austin.  Consultant - Available. @ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:16:49 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> 4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening0 Message-ID: <cfi0u2$efm$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   John Smith wrote:  > DL Phillips wrote: > 0 >>"John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message1 >>news:<ttednTGUPLO59obcRVn-ig@igs.net>... <snip>  >>B >>>with UNIX revenue up 8%, Alpha down 32%, and Non-stop down 25%. >> >><snip> >> >>>------------------  >>/ >>So Alpha is comparable to UNIX & Non-stop?;-)  >> >> >>>----------------- >>> G >>>I'd be hard pressed to see VMS revenues up when Alpha sales are down A >>>notwithstanding that new-fangled Intel 64-bit chip that's been 2 >>>nearly 15 years in the making coming on-stream. >>H >>Since I doubt that there are many new Tru64 sales, and I beleive Tru64H >>accounted for the majority of Alpha sales in the past, 32% sounds likeB >>it might leave room for an increase in VMS sales. But, I haven't" >>looked so that's just a thought. >  >  >  > N > If VMS sales have been up by double-digit increases the past few quarters asM > has been alluded to by others, a collapse in Tru64 sales probably ought not N > reduce Alpha sales by 32% if VMS sales were as robust this quarter as things$ > appeared a couple of quarters ago. > C You need the actual numbers to appreciate exactly how irrelevant to  the overall picture OpenVMS is.   D In Q1 the OpenVMS systems revenues were less than 60 million dollarsA down 5 million dollars from the previous quarter but up 1 million E from the same quarter last year.  Remember the total revenues for the / ESG for this quarter were close to 3.5 billion.   D A rise of 1 million dollars really isn't going to offset the declineA in the rest of the Alpha business and I very seriously doubt that @ Winkler will be trotting into Carlys office with a plan to boost0 OpenVMS revenues to save their collective bacon.   Regards  Andrew Harrison   # > The other way to look at this is:  > = > - Unix up 8% means Tru64 + HP-UX  irrespective of platform.  > 6 > - Alpha down 32% means across VMS, Linux, and Tru64. > F > - HP only advertises Linux, and Tru64 is 'the living dead' which fewH > companies would buy additional systems of at this stage except to haveL > sufficient capacity to grow with their businesses as they manage their wayM > through the little-endian to big-endian application & data porting exercise D > before them, therefore my inference is that sales of VMS are down. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:12:26 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening* Message-ID: <2o3m0uF69bvlU1@uni-berlin.de>   Bill Todd wrote:  = > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/12/hp_blackmore_fired/  >  > 8 > http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=57677 >     F "Fiorena blamed the problems in part on the divisions migration to a H new SAP system that shut down production for six weeks instead of three E weeks as planned. She also cited problems with channel management in  G Europe. But she acknowledged that HPs storage products aren't meeting   expectations."  F Yeowch! 6 weeks production downtime! That's inexcusable for a company H selling high availablity solutions. I don't think much of the planned 3  weeks downtime either.  I Perhaps they should have employed some of their customers as consultants  	 for this.      --  
 Paul Sture  - OS X: "It's Unix, Jim, but not as we know it"    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 07:11:56 -0500B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening3 Message-ID: <o0kT2JTncwEO@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <cfi0u2$efm$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > F > In Q1 the OpenVMS systems revenues were less than 60 million dollarsC > down 5 million dollars from the previous quarter but up 1 million G > from the same quarter last year.  Remember the total revenues for the 1 > ESG for this quarter were close to 3.5 billion.  >    Andrew,   I What is your source for these figures, and are they just sales or do they  include any support elements ?   Simon.   --  B Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       P SCO: Proudly pushing Microsoft down to #2 on the list of most disliked companies   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:28:55 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> 4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening0 Message-ID: <cfic67$iag$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Simon Clubley wrote:n > In article <cfi0u2$efm$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > F >>In Q1 the OpenVMS systems revenues were less than 60 million dollarsC >>down 5 million dollars from the previous quarter but up 1 million G >>from the same quarter last year.  Remember the total revenues for the 1 >>ESG for this quarter were close to 3.5 billion.  >> >  > 	 > Andrew,  > K > What is your source for these figures, and are they just sales or do they   > include any support elements ? >  > Simon. > 9 IDC quarterly server tracker, they don't include service.    Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 08:52:56 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening, Message-ID: <ydmdnepgYpc2JIHcRVn-pw@igs.net>   Paul Sture wrote:  > Bill Todd wrote: > > >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/12/hp_blackmore_fired/ >> >>9 >> http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=57677  >> > G > "Fiorena blamed the problems in part on the divisions migration to a C > new SAP system that shut down production for six weeks instead of > > three weeks as planned. She also cited problems with channelG > management in Europe. But she acknowledged that HPs storage products  > aren't meeting expectations."  > G > Yeowch! 6 weeks production downtime! That's inexcusable for a company G > selling high availablity solutions. I don't think much of the planned  > 3 weeks downtime either. > > > Perhaps they should have employed some of their customers as > consultants for this.     J Maybe they should get their operations off software that only runs on unix and Windows.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 07:55:17 -0500B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening3 Message-ID: <2j9omrTcVTZk@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <cfic67$iag$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > Simon Clubley wrote: >>  L >> What is your source for these figures, and are they just sales or do they! >> include any support elements ?  >>  	 >> Simon.  >>  ; > IDC quarterly server tracker, they don't include service.  >    Thanks.   M Do you have any figures that show what contribution VMS made to the profits ?    Simon.   --  B Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       P SCO: Proudly pushing Microsoft down to #2 on the list of most disliked companies   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 08:02:37 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening3 Message-ID: <Jbr3emYwpMUU@eisner.encompasserve.org>   R In article <TcCdnecSl_JKS4bcRVn-jg@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: > N > If VMS sales have been up by double-digit increases the past few quarters asM > has been alluded to by others, a collapse in Tru64 sales probably ought not N > reduce Alpha sales by 32% if VMS sales were as robust this quarter as things$ > appeared a couple of quarters ago.  F    Many of us looking at new VMS systems are looking at IA64.  We have2    no trouble understanding a drop in Alpha sales.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 08:03:35 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening3 Message-ID: <4lrs2FyRNqKA@eisner.encompasserve.org>   W In article <2o3m0uF69bvlU1@uni-berlin.de>, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes:  > H > "Fiorena blamed the problems in part on the divisions migration to a J > new SAP system that shut down production for six weeks instead of three G > weeks as planned. She also cited problems with channel management in  I > Europe. But she acknowledged that HPs storage products aren't meeting   > expectations."  8    So another large company has been SAP'ed.  Roll taps.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:46:25 GMT + From: LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (leslie) 4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening2 Message-ID: <5v4Tc.6966$nu2.6453@fe2.texas.rr.com>  < Bob Koehler (koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org) wrote:8 : In article <2o3m0uF69bvlU1@uni-berlin.de>, Paul Sture # : <nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes:  : > J : > "Fiorena blamed the problems in part on the divisions migration to a L : > new SAP system that shut down production for six weeks instead of three I : > weeks as planned. She also cited problems with channel management in  K : > Europe. But she acknowledged that HPs storage products aren't meeting   : > expectations." : : :    So another large company has been SAP'ed.  Roll taps. :   :    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/14taps.mp3    Taps    From:   4    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/bugle.htm    Bugle Calls   --Jerry Leslie9   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:44:30 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> 4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening0 Message-ID: <cfik4e$kvl$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Simon Clubley wrote:n > In article <cfic67$iag$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: >  >>Simon Clubley wrote: >>L >>>What is your source for these figures, and are they just sales or do they! >>>include any support elements ?  >>> 	 >>>Simon.  >>>  >>; >>IDC quarterly server tracker, they don't include service.  >> >  > 	 > Thanks.  > O > Do you have any figures that show what contribution VMS made to the profits ?  >  > Simon. > B I think thats the number which everyone would like to see, however' I don't think you are likely to get it.    Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:52:46 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 4 Subject: RE: HP servers management shakeup happening9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIIEINDKAA.tom@kednos.com>    < -----Original Message-----B < From: Andrew Harrison [mailto:andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com]' < Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:45 AM  < To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 6 < Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening <  <  < Simon Clubley wrote:; < > In article <cfic67$iag$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew 6 < Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: < >  < >>Simon Clubley wrote: < >>C < >>>What is your source for these figures, and are they just sales  < or do they# < >>>include any support elements ?  < >>>  < >>>Simon.  < >>>  < >>= < >>IDC quarterly server tracker, they don't include service.  < >> < >  < >  < > Thanks.  < > C < > Do you have any figures that show what contribution VMS made to  < the profits ?  < > 
 < > Simon. < > D < I think thats the number which everyone would like to see, however) < I don't think you are likely to get it.   I I wonder why the Financial Analysts don't demand to have the breakdown by  OS. : It is the only way to get a clear picture of the business.   < 	 < Regards  < Andrew Harrison  <  <  < --- ( < Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.< < Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A < Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004  <  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 18:48:10 +0200   From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>4 Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening- Message-ID: <cfircb$28qp$1@news.cybercity.dk>    Tom Linden wrote:  > < -----Original Message-----D > < From: Andrew Harrison [mailto:andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com]) > < Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:45 AM  > < To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 8 > < Subject: Re: HP servers management shakeup happening > <  > <  > < Simon Clubley wrote:= > < > In article <cfic67$iag$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew 8 > < Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> writes: > < >  > < >>Simon Clubley wrote: > < >>E > < >>>What is your source for these figures, and are they just sales  > < or do they% > < >>>include any support elements ?  > < >>> 
 > < >>>Simon.  > < >>>  > < >>? > < >>IDC quarterly server tracker, they don't include service.  > < >> > < >  > < > 
 > < > Thanks.  > < > E > < > Do you have any figures that show what contribution VMS made to  > < the profits ?  > < >  > < > Simon. > < > F > < I think thats the number which everyone would like to see, however+ > < I don't think you are likely to get it.  > > > I wonder why the Financial Analysts don't demand to have the > breakdown by OS.< > It is the only way to get a clear picture of the business. >   K Good question.  So here is a good job for someone with time on their hands. K Write to every last one of them asking exactly this question.  As I pointed I out, HPQ has been in the business of obfuscation since the DEC merger and * none of the analysts seem to have noticed.  I It was pleasing to note that the share price took a beating.  Perhaps the L board will re-evaluate Her Carleyness and her Coiffures suitability for herL position - though the horse has already bolted, so little good would come of it, at best, less bad.    	 Dr. Dweeb  > <  > < Regards  > < Andrew Harrison  > <  > <  > < --- * > < Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.> > < Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).C > < Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004  > <  > --- ( > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A > Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:38:28 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> 4 Subject: Re: IBM overhauls iSeries for the long haul0 Message-ID: <cfhum4$dlp$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Dave Gudewicz wrote:
 > He said: >  > Thanks > I > You know that our roadmap delivers lower costs, new functionality, etc. J > IBM just markets this a bit better probably by working the press better. >    BS  9 Apart from the obvious which is that IBM do market and HP 8 don't IBM have also invested in iSeries in a way that HP( and Compaq never did with OpenVMS/Alpha.  6 Much better Java support through project San Francisco Intel co-processors 
 Linux support  ISV programs etc   Regards  Andrew Harrison C > I will not be at HP World......the team will be well represented.  >  > < > "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@spyderbyte.com> wrote in message; > news:IS1Sc.190550$tH1.9247671@twister.southeast.rr.com...  > 9 >>"Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote in message ) >>news:%8ORc.256870$JR4.7162@attbi_s54...  >>! >>>Got a reply from Stallard.....  >> >> >>And he said? >>7 >>-----------------------------------------------------  >>Kenneth R. Farmer <><  >>http://www.OpenVMS.org >> >> >> >>> : >>>"Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote in message, >>>news:ggLRc.256148$JR4.245471@attbi_s54... >>> / >>>>I just sent the mentioned link to Stallard.  >>>>? >>>>"Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message ; >>>>news:f30679fb.0408090335.18f85341@posting.google.com...  >>>>
 >>>>>Click >>>>>  >>>>>  >>>>d > http://news.com.com/IBM+overhauls+iSeries+for+the+long+haul/2100-1010_3-5300765.html?tag=nefd.lede >  >>>>> H >>>>>"It's been a pattern for years in the server market: A powerful newC >>>>>machine arrives, grows popular, then fades into history as theOF >>>>>industry moves to fresh designs. Loyalists are left in the lurch. >>>>> I >>>>>The OpenVMS machines led Digital Equipment Corp. to glory, but theirmG >>>>>current owner, Hewlett-Packard, rarely even mentions them anymore.s@ >>>>>Prime and Data General expired altogether. The once-diverse >  > mainframeb > 2 >>>>>gene pool has dwindled almost to one lineage. >>>>>rH >>>>>IBM's iSeries could be one of those endangered species: It has usedI >>>>>processors and software far from the mainstream. But Big Blue thinksm9 >>>>>it has found a way to keep the server line relevant.a >>>>>  >>>>>(...)"e >>>>>g >>>>>hF >>>>>Looks like the AS/400 platform is commited to extinction like theB >>>>>OpenVMS base ! I think IBM should ask EMC do develop a VMware > 	 > version  >  >>>>>to runnD >>>>>i5/OS - to mantain their customer base. Would be better for IBMH >>>>>to run the applications and sell a lot of x450 servers. So they can >>>>>run4 >>>>>Linux/Windows and i5/OS in the other partition. >>>>>t@ >>>>>An other option is develop an afinity program to run AS/400 >>>>>applicationsk >>>>>under Linux ! Unix !  >>>>>o >>>>>Regards >>>>>  >>>>>FC  >>>> >>>> >>>f >> >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:55:38 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>t) Subject: In the Wall Street Journal todayn, Message-ID: <PZednTTFkf7wS4HcRVn-ow@igs.net>   AtL http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB109231043670389677,00.html?mod=home_whats _news_us (paid subscription required)     .....s  F H-P's troubles were rooted in its unit that makes computer servers andF storage devices for corporate customers, which suffered from a botchedD software installation and aggressive discounting. The unit posted anL operating loss of $208 million on revenue of $3.4 billion, contributing to a surprising earnings shortfall.  D Chief Executive Carly Fiorina called the blunders "unacceptable" andL promised that the unit would return to profitability in the current quarter,J ending in late October. Nonetheless, H-P lowered its financial targets forG the quarter. In a terse memo issued a few hours after the disappointing L results, Ms. Fiorina announced the departures of three executives, including? Peter Blackmore, head of the company's sales arm to businesses.9    J The three executives found out late Wednesday and early Thursday that theyJ were getting fired, and exit packages haven't yet been nailed down, said a# person familiar with the situation.t  I For the three months ended July 31, H-P said net income increased 90%, tooJ $586 million, or 19 cents a share, from $297 million, or 10 cents a share,I in the same period a year ago. Excluding costs for amortization and other-I items, H-P had earnings of $846 million, or 24 cents a share. Measured by K that same yardstick, Wall Street analysts had been expecting earnings of 31 H cents a share, according to Thomson First Call. Revenue increased 9%, to" $18.9 billion, from $17.3 billion.  L Ms. Fiorina said that H-P had figured that its new software, from SAP, wouldI cause three weeks of disruption; instead it caused more than six weeks of @ disruption. In addition, European sales suffered from aggressiveK discounting, a poor transition to a new central-claims process and problemsrD with compensation for resellers. Ms. Fiorina also said H-P's storageL division wasn't well-positioned, forcing it to lower prices. Together, these: factors caused a $400 million revenue shortfall, she said.  L But analysts said H-P is increasingly caught in a squeeze between Dell's lowF prices for basic corporate computers and IBM's increasingly innovativeF high-performance computers. Both rivals have been gaining market share4 against H-P since its acquisition of Compaq in 2002.  G What's more, H-P appears to be shifting toward lower-profit businesses.eF H-P's personal-computer unit, which has gross margins -- profit beforeJ operating expenses -- of 8% to 12%, is growing faster than its servers andF storage business, which typically has gross margins of around 40%, forK example. And within the server business, H-P's growth is mainly coming froma the lower-profit products.  I "There's evidence of structural issues at H-P, so we can't say all of thetK earnings miss is due to one-time factors," said Toni Sacconaghi, an analyst  at Sanford Bernstein & Co.  B H-P has alienated some longtime customers by planning to abandon aF home-grown chip and switching to chips from Intel Corp. for all of itsK servers. For example, Oakwood Healthcare, a big Detroit hospital system, isnL increasingly using IBM servers for new applications. "H-P is like GM saying,C 'Buy Oldsmobile, even though we're getting rid of it,' " said Brian-/ Perlstein, Oakwood's chief information officer.   J Techtel Corp., an Emeryville, Calif., market-research company, says a pollF of corporate technology buyers in late June and early July showed thatE demand for H-P server and storage products was flat, while demand for,E products from IBM, Dell and Sun was rising. "The demand for H-P isn't J falling off a cliff. It is just stagnant while everybody else is growing,"+ said Bill Schaub, a Techtel vice president.o  G The server and storage unit has long been the most troubled business inaI H-P's diversified portfolio. Under Mr. Blackmore, who headed the divisionnL after H-P's 2002 acquisition of Compaq Computer Corp., the group slashed itsI work force and killed product lines. The unit lost money until late 2003,sH and since then profits have been anemic amid several restructurings. TopH managers in the group have been leaving, including Howard Elias and MarkH Lewis, who both jumped to EMC, and Mary McDowell, who joined Nokia Corp.  K H-P's other units generally reported good results. The imaging and printinglF division posted an operating profit of $837 million on revenue of $5.6L billion. The PC unit generated operating profit of $25 million on revenue ofK $5.9 billion, reversing a loss from a year ago. H-P's services business hadcI an operating profit of $309 million on revenue of $3.5 billion. And H-P'saJ software unit reported a narrower operating loss of $45 million on revenue of $223 million.  K H-P's stock plunged on the results. In 4 p.m. trading on the New York Stock-3 Exchange, H-P shares fell $2.57, or 13%, to $16.95.r   .....@    L I think that "*blunders*" of this magnitude start at the top....not near the top, but at the top.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:28:26 +0200s  From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>6 Subject: Re: Interex: Fiorina Ousts Three Senior Execs- Message-ID: <cfic5a$1p0c$1@news.cybercity.dk>b   Tom Linden wrote:s	 clip ..... >hA > Since Unix also runs on Alpha what does this mean?  Is BusinesseD > Critical Server synonomous with VMS.  This is a totally misleading+ > way to present the numbers.  Do it by OS.r >e  L CompaQ before and HP since have been doing this obfuscation number since theJ DEC aquisition.  If the truth is too painful, hide it deep seems to be the idea.y  K For anyone with half a brain, and apparently this does not include the WallyK Street fraternity, is has always been mind-numbingly obvious that deception F is the primary goal of the ludicrous and illogical method of reporting revenue breakup.  
 Dr. Dweeb.  	 clip ....j   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:14:20 GMTH1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>s9 Subject: Re: It's a pity they didn't survey OpenVMS users 7 Message-ID: <014Tc.16$Ca5.9@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>    Undisclosed wrote:   > Main, Kerry wrote: > H >> I wonder how many of those surveyed (or even the researchers that didC >> study) are Red Hat Linux fans who did not even know that Red HateF >> released 11 security patches in April of this year alone. Note that1 >> these were *security* patches - not bug fixes.  >> >  > read the article again.h > 1 > these are developers, not the average end-user.  > 6 > also, the comparison is sort of specious in general. > G > any Linux distro effectively supports far more software than, say, a t, > base installation of Windows or OVMS does. > K > for instance, neither Windows nor OVMS in their base install come with a uB > Office-style program like OpenOffice - MS does not count Office 2 > vulnerabilities with Windows ones, for instance. > J > Windows does not support software versioning software in a base install H > like CVS or Subversion, that requires buying an additional product... * > not sure if OVMS does by default or not. > E > note that in Redhat, you have the choice of installing things like cD > Mozilla or OpenOffice and you have several different installation * > default levels, further muddying things. > J > so, any comparison between the different OS'es is dependent on defining < > what a "base OS" is... which is fraught with subjectivity.  = it looks much better using "percentages" than real numbers...i  / 35 out of 500 had been hacked more than 3 times - 110 out of 500 had been hacked at least once.y/ 0 out of thousands have been hacked on OpenVMS.v   --   Michael Austin.S Consultant - Available.e@ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------   Date: 13 Aug 04 05:47:44 PST From: mckinneyj@cpva.saic.comr4 Subject: Re: Looking for MUMPS - CACHE specialists!!( Message-ID: <wWBIdSRl5SrG@cpva.saic.com>  > Should anyone be interested, the following was found posted to? comp.lang.mumps - you might also re-construct the following URLoE for additional info (f.ex. job location appears to be US NJ/PA area).m  9 http://www.questdiagnostics.com/cgi-bin/details.pl?returnu4 =%23%23007%23%23%23%23%23%23%23%23%23%23&Information =034225++++++&title=201725  = In article <f683bd69.0408121100.13c582ca@posting.google.com>,s5  regina.x.orlov@questdiagnostics.com (Regina) writes:oE > We are looking for MUMPS / CACHE Specialists for multiple locationst' > within our company. Please respond toi< > regina.x.orlov@questdiagnostics.com if you are interested. > ! > Education: Bachelor of Science tH > Knowledge: Knowledge of high availability VMS systems management. DeepG > Knowledge of DSM (MUMPS) and Cache based laboratory systems setup ande
 > management.oE > Experience: 7 years experience in production VMS cluster and DSM DBs > application environments.rF > Main Duties: Design, manage and maintain the system and applicationsD > software environment across a range of VMS clusters and standaloneF > systems. Install and configure operating system and layered productsD > and applications software as required. Design, deploy and maintain? > complex DSM and Cache configurations and environments for therH > corporate Laboratory Information Systems. Design and deploy VMS systemB > infrastructure (e.g. Fiber Channel, SCSI, Memory Channel ClusterE > Technology, Backup, etc).Project Management: must be able to managegB > multiple projects simultaneously and adhere to strict deadlines.D > Problem Management: must be able to resolve complex system/network# > problems within tight timeframes.e   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 09:11:23 -0700! From: a.samorezov@volcanomail.com ( Subject: Looking for VMS experts opinion= Message-ID: <44d1cf8d.0408130811.555b4bbe@posting.google.com>u   Dear VMS experts,   1 I prepare a talk to be given at user's meeting ofu" a CAD/CAM system for shipbuilding.  - After 18 year experience in IT I can say thatr7 VMS / OpenVMS is the best operating system I ever seen.w  * And I'd like to remind my colleagues about- OpenVMS and let newcomers know of the system.E  ) Thus, may I ask for your kind assistance.1' Would you send me web-links to positiveh4 experience explanation and successful stories of the! VMS implementation known for you.s  7 I'd higly appreciate if you express your own experience / and let me know if I'm allowed to refer to yours opinion.  , Please, feel free to answer to the newsgroup or mail me directly:  7 A.Samorezov@volcanomail.com   -  free web-based e-mail.l  8 Andrey.Samorezov[at]spasska.com - office e-mail address. (just exchange [at] with @)    Thank you for your time.  
 Sincerely,   Andrey Samorezov,u Chief Information Officerl (certified OpenVMS expert)  ! Ship Design & Engineering Ukrainec   54030, Ukraine,s	 Nikolaev,d
 Spasska, 1   w    1 -------------------------------------------------  Pure personal opinion.! I'm not speaking for my employer.v1 -------------------------------------------------r   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 11:40:51 -0500B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley), Subject: Re: Looking for VMS experts opinion3 Message-ID: <$5JuZkdLSHcx@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <44d1cf8d.0408130811.555b4bbe@posting.google.com>, a.samorezov@volcanomail.com writes:a > + > Thus, may I ask for your kind assistance.w) > Would you send me web-links to positives6 > experience explanation and successful stories of the# > VMS implementation known for you.p >   7 One page to start would be HP's own success stories at:v  . http://h71000.www7.hp.com/success-stories.html   Simon.   --  B Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       P SCO: Proudly pushing Microsoft down to #2 on the list of most disliked companies   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:49:34 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com>h! Subject: Re: Meet the new faces - 0 Message-ID: <cfhvav$dt3$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   John Smith wrote:e    9 You also need to remind yourselves that the reason why HPr5 hired Carly was to fix the ESG which historically hadw5 performed in a very similar way to the way it is now.h   plus ca change   Regardsh Andrew HarrisonfG > Ms. Fiorina said Peter Blackmore, the executive vice president of theeL > customer solutions group, will be replaced by Mike Winkler, who will be inK > charge of direct sales to the company's enterprise, small and medium sizeuM > businesses and public sector customers worldwide. Mr. Winkler will continue & > to serve as chief marketing officer.N > Meanwhile, Jim Milton, a senior vice president and managing director for theK > customer solutions group for the Americas will be replaced by Jack Novia.qK > Mr. Novia was previously senior vice president and general manager of thegI > H-P Technology solutions group. He also served two years as senior vicer8 > president and general manager of H-P Services America. > L > Capping off the executive changes, Kasper Rorsted, a senior vice presidentJ > and managing director of the customer solutions group for Europe, MiddleM > East and Africa will be replaced by Bernard Meric, who had served as senior D > vice president of H-P's imaging and printing group in that region. > 9 > Ms. Fiorina said the changes are effective immediately.  > 
 > -------- > @ > I'd also expect changes further down the chain of command too. >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 07:00:26 -0500B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)! Subject: Re: Meet the new faces -i3 Message-ID: <YCR2wiyLtL+k@eisner.encompasserve.org>o  R In article <n--dnW5lWLXqfYbcRVn-iQ@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes:G > Ms. Fiorina said Peter Blackmore, the executive vice president of theoL > customer solutions group, will be replaced by Mike Winkler, who will be inK > charge of direct sales to the company's enterprise, small and medium sizeaM > businesses and public sector customers worldwide. Mr. Winkler will continueg& > to serve as chief marketing officer.  J The major concern that I have with this is wasn't Winkler the person that 1 thought that Windows would take over everything ?f  E As for the 32% Alpha drop, given that it was killed 3 years ago, whato exactly did HP expect ? :-(    Simon.  > PS: I wonder how the FreeVMS development is coming along ? :-)  F [On a more serious note, if FreeVMS got anywhere near a viable low-endI alternative for VMS, I wonder if HP would let it develop or if they wouldt
 pull a SCO ?]    -- nB Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       P SCO: Proudly pushing Microsoft down to #2 on the list of most disliked companies   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 08:51:58 -0400a# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ! Subject: Re: Meet the new faces ->, Message-ID: <PoCdnUHqSczsJIHcRVn-sg@igs.net>   Simon Clubley wrote:; > In article <n--dnW5lWLXqfYbcRVn-iQ@igs.net>, "John Smith"i > <a@nonymous.com> writes:H >> Ms. Fiorina said Peter Blackmore, the executive vice president of theG >> customer solutions group, will be replaced by Mike Winkler, who willnF >> be in charge of direct sales to the company's enterprise, small andD >> medium size businesses and public sector customers worldwide. Mr.= >> Winkler will continue to serve as chief marketing officer.a >iF > The major concern that I have with this is wasn't Winkler the person > that3 > thought that Windows would take over everything ?o >yG > As for the 32% Alpha drop, given that it was killed 3 years ago, whatn > exactly did HP expect ? :-(h     It's just a statistic.  K I don't think that number was a shock to HP management....in SEC statementsrL one must report the facts in a factual way with little 'spin' (ok, they tend= to 'spin' things a little by not reporting revenue by o/s). .f   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:25:42 GMTq! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>a$ Subject: Re: MPlayer is a DVD player8 Message-ID: <k3roh0ttvngtuljsd0dvl90isqc4i5pjt8@4ax.com>  C On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:46:29 +0200, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:l   >Mark Berryman wrote:vG >> Do any of you who downloaded MPlayer for your VMS system have a DVD rK >> drive attached to it?  I'd like to hear how well MPlayer plays DVDs for  F >> you.  (Note that the default name for the DVD device compiled into L >> MPlayer is DQA0.  You must explicitly specify the DVD device if yours is I >> not DQA0.  The syntax will be: mplayer -dvd-device dkaNNN: dvd:// and t' >> the device must be mounted foreign).  >> r >> Mark Berryman >> tO >I have a DS10 with a Radeon card. I suppose I need some kind of sound card as eR >well? I tried to buy one some time ago, but it seems the supported sound card is - >so ancient that it belongs in a museum :-) .i  N I bought an Ensoniq Audio PCI soundcard on Ebay for 10 Euros. Works great. YouP need to check that the card is the version that has a large chip labelled either ES1371/ES1373 or CT5880.   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azure   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 08:06:08 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler),9 Subject: Re: NONSHRADR and NONRES messages at end of boote3 Message-ID: <4n6oTU2L++yN@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  f In article <dd3f0cb7.0408120949.2547cc1a@posting.google.com>, chessmaster1010@hotmail.com (JG) writes:H > My 7.2-2 Alphas always output these messages on the console at the endD > of a boot.  I know it's not causing a problem, but I was wondering- > what I could do to get rid of the messages.  > : > %INSTALL-I-NOTSHRADR, DECW$XLIBSHR is not installed with > shareable address data >        Sounds like time for autogen.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 00:02:01 -0700< From: jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr (Jean-Fran?ois Marchal)< Subject: Re: PWIP driver won't start on TCPIP 5.4 after ECO2= Message-ID: <6bc20ab7.0408122302.49c11e2e@posting.google.com>i   Thanks Paul ...p% Ok after enabling the bind resolver !i
 Jean-Franoisc     > Hi,  > G > That problem occurs when the bind resolver is not enabled.   A fix isoJ > available from HP or you can enable the resolver until ECO3 is released. > M > To enable the resolver, run tcpip$config, select option 1 then, option 4...H >  > Paul > K > "Jean-Fran?ois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote in message 9 > news:6bc20ab7.0408120910.470028ec@posting.google.com...a > > Sorry if this is a repost. > >.* > > Upgration from VMS 7.3-1 and TCPIP 5.3) > > to VMS 7.3-2 and TCPIP 5.4 then ECO2,s" > > the PWIP driver does not start > > The log file shows : > >o1 > > getLocalAddr : get addrinfo failure, ipv6 : 4e, > > interfaceInit : Could not getLocalAddr !G > > main: PWIPdriver, PWIPacp interface init failure, aborting PWIP ACP 
 >  startup > >d > > telnet and ftp run okt > > ( > > any help will be greatly appreciated% > > as HP service is now closed here.e > >e > > Jean-FranoisF > > from FRANCEo   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:48:19 +0200 2 From: "Dr. Otto Titze" <titze@ikp.tu-darmstadt.de>5 Subject: Re: Queue Manager in a heterogeneous clustere5 Message-ID: <cfi9i0$nk7$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>e  ; The problem is solved (hopefully). It was a small war story.? - the quemanger was running on a VAX5400 VMS 6.2 (when startinguG    the alpha with 7.3-2 it crashed the quemanger. This was not the casei8    with other systems (VAX,Alpha) already under VMS 7.3)B - so I tried $start/que/manag/on="system_with7.3" in the hope thatH    the one under 7.3-2 would like more to cooperate. But got the message    "unable to start"E - so I went back and started the manager on the VAX5400. This worked.nI    But I had no queues anymore. Obviously the queue files were corrupted.sC    I had only a backup copy of QMAN$MASTER.DAT but not of the files I    SYS$Queue_Manager.*. This did not help so I had to face the  situationH(    to build up all queues again manually; - did then $start/que/manag/new/on=(system_with7.3,vax5400)"= - established all queues again(did not have command files forhG    everyone!). Positive effect for my successor, he has now everything.e! - then I booted the 7.3-2 system.:4    It came up properly - and the queing did not die!  D I know this all is not supported (therefore hints like this are not H necessary). And of course we will as soon as possible upgrade the other G VMS 6.2 notes, because most of the reasons to stay with 6.2 (last free  E RDB, old pathworks) have gone and we don't use this products anymore.a   Regardsu Otto       Dr. Otto Titze schrieb:s   > Hi,o > F > I know it should not work (because not supported). But we run a VMS J > Cluster with some Nodes on VMS 6.2(Alphas and VAX) and a few nodes with J > 7.3(Alphas and VAX). We had no problems except some really minor things  > (like monitor cluster).p > K > We use the 7.3 ones to test some new features/layered products. But e.g.  K > for SSH Server we need the newest version of  VMS. Therefore we upgraded -G > today one of the  Alpha 7.3 Nodes to 7.3-2. Worked fine. But when we bI > started this node into the cluster it stopped the Job Queue Manager on e# > the whole cluster (reproducable).e > C > Is this known? Any workaround? Some times in the past in similar iK > situations we exchanged the new task with one of the older version (e.g. oE > in this case from 7.3). What is the name of the Job Queue Manager -e' > Queman.exe? (Or Jbc$job_control.exe?)  > I > My problem is I have only a few weeks before retierement and therefore l+ > no time to upgrade all system to 7.3-2...  > 	 > Regards  >  > Otto   --  -   ------------------------------------------- , | Dr. Otto Titze, Kernphysik TUD           |, | Schlossgartenstr. 9, D-64289 Darmstadt   |, | titze@ikp.tu-darmstadt.de                |, | Tel: +49(6151)16-2916,FAX:16-4321        |-   -------------------------------------------g   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Aug 2004 22:59:50 -0700/ From: johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com (John Reinhardt)s0 Subject: Re: Rejecting network access to service= Message-ID: <5d708ac7.0408122159.3d8b798a@posting.google.com>n  r Tim Sneddon <first-initiallastname@bsddotinfomedia.com.au> wrote in message news:<2o2g1kF676alU1@uni-berlin.de>... >  > I got the same.l > L > After a bit of messing around I restarted NTP and now the list of rejected > networks shows up. >  > Regards, Tim.s    A According to the TCPIP Docs the "SET SERVICE" command is one thatu@ modifies the permanent database files, not the currently running? settings, so they would only take effect after restarting TCPIP-N services. See http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732final/6527/6527pro.html#com_sec  Table #1-2r  
   Regards,     John   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:02:14 GMT@1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>b0 Subject: Re: Rejecting network access to service6 Message-ID: <GR3Tc.6$Nl5.5@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   Michael T. Davis wrote:a > 	We're running...  > A >   Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.3 - ECO 2k5 >   on a AlphaServer 800 5/500 running OpenVMS V7.2-2g > G > 	How do you configure a service--NTP, for example--to reject requestsm% > from a set of networks?  I tried...t > > > $ TCPIP SET SERVICE NTP/REJECT=NETWORK=(10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0,-L > _$ 169.254.0.0:255.255.0.0,172.16.0.0:255.240.0.0,192.168.0.0:255.255.0.0) > I > When I then TCPIP SHOW SERVICE/FULL NTP, none of this new configurationsM > information is displayed, and packets from the supposedly rejected networksoK > continue to enter.  FWIW, the "Accept host" and "Accept netw" fields bothP > display 0.0.0.0 (by default).p > 	 > Thanks,  > Mike > --K >              Michael T. Davis            |    Systems Specialist: ChE,MSEAN >     E-mail: davism@ecr6.ohio-state.edu   | Departmental Networking/ComputingJ >            -or- DAVISM+@osu.edu          |     The Ohio State UniversityJ >  http://www.ecr6.ohio-state.edu/~davism/ |     197 Watts, (614) 292-6928   @sys$startup:tcpip$ntp_shutdown  @sys$startup:tcpip$ntp_startup   should fix it...   -- a Michael Austin./ Consultant - Available. @ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------   Date: 13 Aug 2004 15:25:47 GMT6 From: DAVISM@er6.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis)0 Subject: RE: Rejecting network access to service: Message-ID: <cfimhr$s0i$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  > 	Thanks to the responses so far, I was reminded that I need toF wrap my service modifications in a stop/(re)start of the service.  TheG NTP service settings now reflect an appropriate "Reject netw" list, butvD it doesn't seem to be doing any good.  (FWIW, the "Accept host" listG still lists 0.0.0.0.)  I am still seeing traffic logged by our firewalliA from our VMS system to an IP address within one of the "rejected"uG networks.  Wouldn't this imply that the VMS system accepted a NTP querysF from that system?  In essence, I want to accept queries from any host,D except those on the NTP service's reject list.  What else might I be missing?   Thanks,e Mike --I              Michael T. Davis            |    Systems Specialist: ChE,MSE L     E-mail: davism@ecr6.ohio-state.edu   | Departmental Networking/ComputingH            -or- DAVISM+@osu.edu          |     The Ohio State UniversityH  http://www.ecr6.ohio-state.edu/~davism/ |     197 Watts, (614) 292-6928   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:46:02 +0100m* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>0 Subject: Re: Rejecting network access to service+ Message-ID: <cfino0$inc@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>p  C "Michael T. Davis" <DAVISM@er6.eng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message14 news:cfimhr$s0i$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...  5 > In essence, I want to accept queries from any host,eF > except those on the NTP service's reject list.  What else might I be
 > missing?  G The service reject list is like old-fashioned TCP wrappers; better than K nothing but essentially useless for a permanently running server like NTPD.   C However, you can put access controls in the NTP configuration file,s or with NTPDC.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:36:28 -0500t* From: Michael Clark <MClark@Nemschoff.com> Subject: Samba on OpenVMS Q Message-ID: <A2A28DB6D52E084783ACD6E6C6F5D790022873D6@EMAILSERVER2.nemschoff.com>a  K Currently we are running a dated version of PATHWORKS 6.0C on our VMS 7.2-1sE installation.  I was wondering how a samba installation would comparegE functionality wise.  I have used samba before on *BSD/Linux operatingp systems.      
 Michael Clark: Nemschoff Chairs Inc mclark at nemschoff dot com2" CompTIA A+, Network+, Server+, MCP Voice: (920) 457 7726 x294 Fax:  (920) 453 6594    A CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This electronic transmission, including allRL attachments, is directed in confidence solely to the person(s) to whom it isL addressed, or an authorized recipient, and may not otherwise be distributed,L copied or disclosed. The contents of the transmission may also be subject toJ intellectual property rights and all such rights are expressly claimed andG are not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, pleasetH notify the sender immediately by return electronic transmission and thenH immediately delete this transmission, including all attachments, without* copying, distributing or disclosing same.    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Aug 2004 08:55:57 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)a  Subject: webservers for VMS/I64?3 Message-ID: <gC9klzIE8SHg@eisner.encompasserve.org>c  B    What web servers have been ported to OpenVMS I64?  I'm going to=    need a new web server soon and I'd like to do it that way.i        ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:06:15 -0700e# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>e$ Subject: RE: webservers for VMS/I64?9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEILDKAA.tom@kednos.com>n   http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/   < -----Original Message-----D < From: Bob Koehler [mailto:koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org]' < Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 6:56 AM  < To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comr" < Subject: webservers for VMS/I64? <  <  < D <    What web servers have been ported to OpenVMS I64?  I'm going to? <    need a new web server soon and I'd like to do it that way.u <    h <  < ---t( < Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.< < Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A < Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004h <  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004s   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:19:10 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>c$ Subject: Re: webservers for VMS/I64?8 Message-ID: <ucjph0p9iloiql5ir4nqbmrleu1jhm8391@4ax.com>  K On 13 Aug 2004 08:55:57 -0500, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bobg Koehler) wrote:i   >VC >   What web servers have been ported to OpenVMS I64?  I'm going tom> >   need a new web server soon and I'd like to do it that way.  P HP Secure Web Server 1.3 (based on Apache) with the extra modules like MOD_PERl, MOD_PHP etc.   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur:   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:35:05 -0400-# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>rB Subject: [OT..sort of]: IBM lifts global hiring forecast to 18,800, Message-ID: <KuGdnVLU18kBTIHcRVn-rg@igs.net>   What's HP doing?   ---------------------------i   Aug. 13, 2004. 01:00 AM    * IBM lifts global hiring forecast to 18,800    J NEW YORK-International Business Machines Corp. will hire 8,800 more peopleD this year than it had earlier expected, due in part to growth in its8 worldwide services business, the company said yesterday.  L IBM said it would take on 18,800 new employees globally in 2004, up from its5 previous forecast of 10,000 for this year in January.K  K The company had later indicated to Reuters that its hiring could be as highH? as 15,000, one-third from universities and the rest experiencedj professionals.  I "We do see growth, unlike some of our competition," IBM spokesperson JohnaJ Bukovinsky said, adding most of the hiring is a result of growth in globalG services and business consulting. Growth areas included Linux services,wF consulting and development, grid computing and business transformation services, he said.  K IBM now expects to end the year with more than 330,000 employees worldwide,o% up almost 3.5 percent from last year.o  D It marked a rare expansion for a technology company. Job cuts in theH computer industry rose 179 per cent to 13,465 in the second quarter fromD 4,828 in the previous quarter, according to staffing consulting firm" Challenger, Gray & Christmas, Inc.  L IBM will now have more employees at the end of 2004 than any time since 19919 when it finished the year with more than 344,000 workers.e  1 In the mid-'80s IBM employed more 400,000 people.d  I But only a third of those workers would be hired in the U.S., with almosteL half in Asia - showing the shift of IBM and other tech companies' workforces% to low cost centers around the world.e  J "I don't think you can draw any particular conclusions from today's news,"L said Porter Bibb, managing partner at Mediatech Capital Partners, a merchant banker.e  L He said there are many highly qualified technical people in the U.S. who are. still unemployed. "A lot of it is offshoring."  J Bukovinsky said most of the hiring in Asia and other emerging countries isI because those economies are growing faster resulting in higher demand for 7 information technology rather than offshoring activity.h   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:58:37 -0400/ From: "Ray" <no@spam.me>F Subject: Re: [OT..sort of]: IBM lifts global hiring forecast to 18,8000 Message-ID: <10hpspmcfbfaecb@corp.supernews.com>  H HP will continue to lay people off. Whenever you hear the words "cuttingH costs" from HP, read that as "layoffs." They don't know how to do it any
 other way.  . "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message& news:KuGdnVLU18kBTIHcRVn-rg@igs.net... > What's HP doing? >- > ---------------------------5 >  > Aug. 13, 2004.
 > 01:00 AM >y >s, > IBM lifts global hiring forecast to 18,800 >n >eL > NEW YORK-International Business Machines Corp. will hire 8,800 more peopleF > this year than it had earlier expected, due in part to growth in its: > worldwide services business, the company said yesterday. >tJ > IBM said it would take on 18,800 new employees globally in 2004, up from itsw7 > previous forecast of 10,000 for this year in January.g >sH > The company had later indicated to Reuters that its hiring could be as highA > as 15,000, one-third from universities and the rest experienced  > professionals. >lK > "We do see growth, unlike some of our competition," IBM spokesperson JohndL > Bukovinsky said, adding most of the hiring is a result of growth in globalI > services and business consulting. Growth areas included Linux services,oH > consulting and development, grid computing and business transformation > services, he said. >eB > IBM now expects to end the year with more than 330,000 employees
 worldwide,' > up almost 3.5 percent from last year.o >lF > It marked a rare expansion for a technology company. Job cuts in theJ > computer industry rose 179 per cent to 13,465 in the second quarter fromF > 4,828 in the previous quarter, according to staffing consulting firm$ > Challenger, Gray & Christmas, Inc. > I > IBM will now have more employees at the end of 2004 than any time since  1991; > when it finished the year with more than 344,000 workers.r >g3 > In the mid-'80s IBM employed more 400,000 people.  >tK > But only a third of those workers would be hired in the U.S., with almosttC > half in Asia - showing the shift of IBM and other tech companies' 
 workforces' > to low cost centers around the world.d >aL > "I don't think you can draw any particular conclusions from today's news,"E > said Porter Bibb, managing partner at Mediatech Capital Partners, aa merchant	 > banker.e >uJ > He said there are many highly qualified technical people in the U.S. who areo0 > still unemployed. "A lot of it is offshoring." >ML > Bukovinsky said most of the hiring in Asia and other emerging countries isK > because those economies are growing faster resulting in higher demand forr9 > information technology rather than offshoring activity.a >t >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:42:12 -0400s# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>m6 Subject: [OT]: Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plan, Message-ID: <7_adnRpktPjaToHcRVn-qg@igs.net>  L http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&ncid=1208&e=10&u=/zd/20 040812/tc_zd/133330l    ' Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plano   Thu Aug 12, 5:45 AM ET Jeffrey Burt - eWEEK  J Sun Microsystems Inc.'s plans for bringing its Solaris operating system to3 IBM's Power architecture appear to be moving along.   E Jonathan Schwartz, Sun's president and chief operating officer, firsttJ broached the idea of porting the company's version of the Unix (news - webH sites) operating system onto both Power and Intel Corp.'s 64-bit ItaniumC architecture last month during a conference call with analysts whene) announcing Sun's fourth-quarter earnings.a  H When Schwartz mentioned it, Chairman and CEO Scott McNealy quickly said,& 'That was not a product announcement."  H However, in an entry into his Weblog posted Sunday, Schwartz said Sun isK actively pursuing the Solaris-on-Power idea, and that a demo version is notiL far away. The mention came at the end of a lengthy entry on open technology,C and the cost of qualifying one technology after porting it to a newy	 platform.f  J "For example, as we continue porting Solaris onto IBM's Power architectureE (demo coming soon!), the real issue we have to grapple with isn't thesH expense of moving our software over-it's the expense of requalifying allF our, and all our ISV's infrastructure once the port is done," SchwartzH wrote. "We're hopeful IBM will support us (there are certainly enough ofL their employees reading these blogs to suggest they're paying attention)-and8 not close off choice and substitution to its customers."  I Schwartz did not elaborate, or indicate when that demo would be released.l  J A spokesman for Sun said the company is considering the idea of Solaris on< Power, but that he was unsure how far along those plans are.  9 Officials with IBM, in Armonk, N.Y., declined to comment.a  L Charles King, an analyst with The Sageza Group Inc., said the move by Sun toK port its operating system to other platforms carries its share of risks and H benefits. It enables the company to expand the footprint of Solaris, but> also could give competitors greater access to Sun's customers.  E "It would give Sun a way of going to IBM customers and clients with asJ cleaner migration path to SPARC/Solaris," said King, in Union City, Calif.B "It also could provide IBM an opportunity to go to Sun customers."  G Currently Solaris runs on systems powered by Sun's SPARC processors andlF Advanced Micro Devices Inc.'s Opteron chips, as well as Fujitsu Ltd.'s PrimePower servers..  L Sun has been pushing to grow its various businesses beyond the SPARC/SolarisE architecture. In the volume systems space, Sun is rolling out servers-L powered by Opteron, which run Linux (news - web sites) and Solaris x86. LateF last month, Sun announced that its collection of server software, JavaG Enterprise System, will be available on Hewlett-Packard Co.'s HP-UX andiL Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating systems starting in the first quarter of 2005.o  I Sun also has hinted at extending its Linux reach even further by possibly I acquiring Novell Inc. and its SuSE Linux unit as a way of derailing IBM'sc Linux strategy.e  3 For more on a possible Sun-Novell deal, click here.e  L And like the latest Solaris-on-Power news, the Novell idea was put out thereH by Schwartz via his blog. It's an interesting way of gauging reaction to ideas, said Sageza's King.  D "It's a safe way of floating a trial balloon to see how the industry responds," he said.a   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:47:11 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> : Subject: RE: [OT]: Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plan9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECICEINDKAA.tom@kednos.com>0  C Don't understand Charles King's analysis, if I were Sun, I would beaC delighted if IBM went after my Customers - with Solaris.  The HW is  just the delivery vehicle.   < -----Original Message-----* < From: John Smith [mailto:a@nonymous.com]' < Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:42 AMy < To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come8 < Subject: [OT]: Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plan <e <tD < http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&ncid=1208&e=1 < 0&u=/zd/20 < 040812/tc_zd/133330  <c <s) < Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plani <y < Thu Aug 12, 5:45 AM ET < Jeffrey Burt - eWEEK <sL < Sun Microsystems Inc.'s plans for bringing its Solaris operating system to5 < IBM's Power architecture appear to be moving along.p <rG < Jonathan Schwartz, Sun's president and chief operating officer, firstnL < broached the idea of porting the company's version of the Unix (news - webJ < sites) operating system onto both Power and Intel Corp.'s 64-bit ItaniumE < architecture last month during a conference call with analysts when + < announcing Sun's fourth-quarter earnings.o <nJ < When Schwartz mentioned it, Chairman and CEO Scott McNealy quickly said,( < 'That was not a product announcement." <uJ < However, in an entry into his Weblog posted Sunday, Schwartz said Sun is> < actively pursuing the Solaris-on-Power idea, and that a demo < version is notB < far away. The mention came at the end of a lengthy entry on open
 < technology,aE < and the cost of qualifying one technology after porting it to a news < platform.u <fL < "For example, as we continue porting Solaris onto IBM's Power architectureG < (demo coming soon!), the real issue we have to grapple with isn't thenJ < expense of moving our software over-it's the expense of requalifying allH < our, and all our ISV's infrastructure once the port is done," SchwartzJ < wrote. "We're hopeful IBM will support us (there are certainly enough of? < their employees reading these blogs to suggest they're payingo < attention)-and: < not close off choice and substitution to its customers." <tK < Schwartz did not elaborate, or indicate when that demo would be released./ <aL < A spokesman for Sun said the company is considering the idea of Solaris on> < Power, but that he was unsure how far along those plans are. <i; < Officials with IBM, in Armonk, N.Y., declined to comment.a <r? < Charles King, an analyst with The Sageza Group Inc., said thel < move by Sun toC < port its operating system to other platforms carries its share ofc < risks andaJ < benefits. It enables the company to expand the footprint of Solaris, but@ < also could give competitors greater access to Sun's customers. <DG < "It would give Sun a way of going to IBM customers and clients with a L < cleaner migration path to SPARC/Solaris," said King, in Union City, Calif.D < "It also could provide IBM an opportunity to go to Sun customers." <sI < Currently Solaris runs on systems powered by Sun's SPARC processors and H < Advanced Micro Devices Inc.'s Opteron chips, as well as Fujitsu Ltd.'s < PrimePower servers.l <t@ < Sun has been pushing to grow its various businesses beyond the < SPARC/SolarisfG < architecture. In the volume systems space, Sun is rolling out serversS< < powered by Opteron, which run Linux (news - web sites) and < Solaris x86. LateeH < last month, Sun announced that its collection of server software, JavaI < Enterprise System, will be available on Hewlett-Packard Co.'s HP-UX and C < Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating systems starting in the firstt < quarter of < 2005.w <iK < Sun also has hinted at extending its Linux reach even further by possibly9K < acquiring Novell Inc. and its SuSE Linux unit as a way of derailing IBM'sp < Linux strategy.g <D5 < For more on a possible Sun-Novell deal, click here.  <r@ < And like the latest Solaris-on-Power news, the Novell idea was < put out theretJ < by Schwartz via his blog. It's an interesting way of gauging reaction to < ideas, said Sageza's King. <yF < "It's a safe way of floating a trial balloon to see how the industry < responds," he said.w <  <  <t < --- ( < Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.< < Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A < Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004u <  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004m   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.447 ************************