1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 15 Aug 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 451       Contents: Re: If OVMS is killed by HP....  Re: If OVMS is killed by HP....  Re: If OVMS is killed by HP.... # Re: Looking for VMS experts opinion + Re: TCP Server  SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM on restart 1 RE: [OT]: Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plan   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:01:19 +0100 < From: "Alex Daniels" <AlexNOSPAMTHANKSDaniels@themail.co.uk>( Subject: Re: If OVMS is killed by HP....4 Message-ID: <411f5ea2$0$199$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>  , <david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk> wrote in message # news:cfnk35$a6b$2@news.mdx.ac.uk... ? > In article <411EE5CE.8130C6A1@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera  % > <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:  >>Undisclosed wrote: >>> 1 >>> who might buy the source and hire the coders?  >>> G >>> are there any other organizations that would be interested in OVMS?  >>> K >>> could a community effort make the requisite bank to buy and open-source K >>> OVMS and/or maybe create a community-oriented OVMS to buy OVMS and sell 9 >>> it a la the Cray employees buying back Cray from SGI?  >>H >>There's too much licensed code in OVMS for it to ever be open-sourced. >> > , > What licensed code and licensed from who ?L > There are a few addons which are Royalty products but VMS itself surely isM > owned entirely by HP via the purchase of Compaq and it's prior purchase of   > DEC. >   L Not strictly VMS, but TCP/IP Services has licensed code in it. Not even the * guys in the CSC's have access to its code.   Alex     ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2004 07:03:23 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)( Subject: Re: If OVMS is killed by HP....< Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0408150603.b9aef10@posting.google.com>  k Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> wrote in message news:<GsmdnRBmBL0sOoPcRVn-ug@comcast.com>... / > who might buy the source and hire the coders?  > E > are there any other organizations that would be interested in OVMS?  > J > could a community effort make the requisite bank to buy and open-source J > OVMS and/or maybe create a community-oriented OVMS to buy OVMS and sell 7 > it a la the Cray employees buying back Cray from SGI?   9 they better not try to force users off, or else they will 9 make a lot of customers like us very very angry and never   buy another HP product again ...   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2004 10:48:29 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ( Subject: Re: If OVMS is killed by HP....3 Message-ID: <8aFeOQTAqpHq@eisner.encompasserve.org>   J In article <cfnk35$a6b$2@news.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk writes:b > In article <411EE5CE.8130C6A1@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes: >>Undisclosed wrote: >>> 1 >>> who might buy the source and hire the coders?  >>> G >>> are there any other organizations that would be interested in OVMS?  >>> K >>> could a community effort make the requisite bank to buy and open-source K >>> OVMS and/or maybe create a community-oriented OVMS to buy OVMS and sell 9 >>> it a la the Cray employees buying back Cray from SGI?  >>H >>There's too much licensed code in OVMS for it to ever be open-sourced. >> > , > What licensed code and licensed from who ?  G The old answer was Display Postscript, but that went away on a previous F sale of VMS intellectual property because the licensor was not willing to negotiate a new agreement.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:55:52 +0200   From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>, Subject: Re: Looking for VMS experts opinion, Message-ID: <cfnmgn$k36$1@news.cybercity.dk>   Michael Austin wrote:  > Lurker at Large wrote: > <snip> > F >> All of our customers are encouraged and we have new customers againE >> looking at us as a potential vendor.  Management has noticed this, G >> and although it hasn't been decided (or announced at least) yet, I'm B >> sure we'll continue to do business and regain our market share. >>@ >> There are many reasons why the VMS version is better than theC >> Windows/unix version, and I won't use this followup to blast the @ >> other two platforms.  It's my opinion that the VMS version is >> unbeatable because: >>0 >> * strong built-in security and data integrity5 >> * good clustering and strong file locking features  >> * easy to program >> >>  - Sharon, lurker at Large  >  > HP Are you listening????  L Michael, You know better than that !  Those who do not wish to hear, are forI all intents and purposes, clinically deaf.  Hp and CPQ before are in this H state with respect to VMS.  Carley has a vision, and VMS is not it - andH like all visionaries, she is unlikely to let facts get in the way of the vision.   L Personally, I think she is blind (and galactically incompetant), but that is another matter.   	 Dr. Dweeb    ------------------------------   Date: 15 Aug 2004 07:26:45 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>4 Subject: Re: TCP Server  SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM on restart? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-SdJrxNWk6dlF@dave2_os2.home.ours>   E On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 05:31:37 UTC, dugaldpeacock@yahoo.com.au (Dugald   Peacock) wrote:   
 > Dear Group,  > . > I am writing a TCP server on Open VMS using:8 > "Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.3@ > on a COMPAQ AlphaServer DS20E 666 MHzP running OpenVMS V7.3-1" > G > I have a question about restarting my server.  I am currently running E > my server using the OpenVMS debugger and stopping it with control-Y H > and entering stop at DCL.  In the long run I will run it as a detached
 > process. > B > When I have no clients attached I can stop and restart my serverD > immediately.  However if there is one or more clients and I try toH > restart my server as described above I get SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM when I tryH > to set the server options.  After one minute it is possible to restart > my server without any errors.  > G > When I look at the TPCIP devices immediately after stopping my server - > I cannot see the device I was listening on.  > H > What is the cause of this?  Is it the linger timer or some thing else?6 >  I have tried to disable linger but with no success. > < > Is there any timer I can change so I can restart my server > immediately? > A > I have provided my setup code (FORTRAN 77) below my signature.   >  > Thanks > 	 > Dugald       <Code Snipped>   DugaldF                 this sounds like your method of setting the REUSEADDR E option isn't working. We had exactly the same symptoms, i.e, working  D again afeter a minute. Applying REUSEADDR cured 'em. I've forwarded F the mail to work and will have a look Monday. Ours is in Fortran too, D BTW, but Franz, the main developer, translated the C Socket example.   --   Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------   Date: 15 Aug 2004 06:05:49 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>: Subject: RE: [OT]: Sun on Track with Solaris-on-Power Plan? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-fjRpKnu1fpbN@dave2_os2.home.ours>   F On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:47:11 UTC, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote:  E > Don't understand Charles King's analysis, if I were Sun, I would be E > delighted if IBM went after my Customers - with Solaris.  The HW is  > just the delivery vehicle.  F Plus it gives IBM a further opportunity to prove that the their claim C about the hardware being the revenue source, not the software, was  ! less wrong than MS made it seem.     --   Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.451 ************************