1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 30 Aug 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 481       Contents:! Re: A whopping 50 percent...  ??? ! Re: A whopping 50 percent...  ??? ! RE: A whopping 50 percent...  ???  Re: charon vax emulator??? Re: charon vax emulator??? Re: charon vax emulator??? Re: charon vax emulator??? Re: charon vax emulator??? Re: charon vax emulator???3 Re: CSWS v2.0 & CSWS_PHP v1.2 - "php4_module" error 3 Re: CSWS v2.0 & CSWS_PHP v1.2 - "php4_module" error - Re: DCE: Initialization (get bindings) failed - Re: DCE: Initialization (get bindings) failed D Re: Figures on Itanic migration plans by HP-UX, VMS, and Tru64 users Re: HP Away  Re: HPworld - I Survived Re: HPworld - I Survived Re: HPworld - I Survived Re: HPworld - I Survived Re: HPworld - I Survived Re: HPworld - I Survived Re: HPworld - I Survived Re: HPworld - I Survived( Re: Initialization (get bindings) failed" IP over new Fibrechannel adapters? LK layout USB keyboard?????  Re: LK layout USB keyboard????? ( Re: Planned port of freeware to Itanium?( Re: Planned port of freeware to Itanium?! Re: problems setting up a cluster ! Re: problems setting up a cluster ! Re: problems setting up a cluster ! Re: problems setting up a cluster A SMART - Standardised Management, Auditing and Reporting Technique " Re: Two IPs on same NIC OVMS 7.2-1  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:42:37 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) * Subject: Re: A whopping 50 percent...  ???3 Message-ID: <903IUJqlZACx@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <2p7736FgahptU1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  > E > What?  I doubt there was ever a time when the number of VMS systems D > outnumbered Unix Systems.  Unix ran on nearly everything including> > many of the VAXen DEC sold.  VMS ran on nothing but the VAX. >   C    For most of the 80's UNIX was a little broken down OS that folks B    at universities played around with.  Meanwhile DEC sold tons of    VAXen, mostly running VMS.   A    I do not doubt that there was a time when more systems ran VMS 3    on VAXen than all the UNIX systems put together.    ------------------------------   Date: 30 Aug 2004 15:46:05 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)* Subject: Re: A whopping 50 percent...  ???* Message-ID: <2ph0dtFklj2aU4@uni-berlin.de>  3 In article <903IUJqlZACx@eisner.encompasserve.org>, > 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:W > In article <2p7736FgahptU1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  >>  F >> What?  I doubt there was ever a time when the number of VMS systemsE >> outnumbered Unix Systems.  Unix ran on nearly everything including ? >> many of the VAXen DEC sold.  VMS ran on nothing but the VAX.  >>   > E >    For most of the 80's UNIX was a little broken down OS that folks D >    at universities played around with.  Meanwhile DEC sold tons of >    VAXen, mostly running VMS.   ; Ummmmm.....  DEC was selling Ultrix-11 starting in 1982 and 9 Ultrix-32 in 1984.  Both were commercial products with no ; connection to the BSD distributions.  The PDP-11 Sourcebook @ is loaded with commercial applications that ran under Ultrix-11., I'll bet the VAX Sourcebook had even more.     > C >    I do not doubt that there was a time when more systems ran VMS 5 >    on VAXen than all the UNIX systems put together.   < I would love to see numbers supporting this, but I doubt it.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:52:51 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> * Subject: RE: A whopping 50 percent...  ???9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIOEKADLAA.tom@kednos.com>    < -----Original Message-----F < From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu [mailto:bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu]On Behalf Of < Bill Gunshannon ' < Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 8:46 AM  < To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com + < Subject: Re: A whopping 50 percent... ???  <  < 5 < In article <903IUJqlZACx@eisner.encompasserve.org>, @ < 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:? < > In article <2p7736FgahptU1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu  < (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  < >>H < >> What?  I doubt there was ever a time when the number of VMS systemsG < >> outnumbered Unix Systems.  Unix ran on nearly everything including A < >> many of the VAXen DEC sold.  VMS ran on nothing but the VAX.  < >> < > G < >    For most of the 80's UNIX was a little broken down OS that folks F < >    at universities played around with.  Meanwhile DEC sold tons of! < >    VAXen, mostly running VMS.  < = < Ummmmm.....  DEC was selling Ultrix-11 starting in 1982 and ; < Ultrix-32 in 1984.  Both were commercial products with no = < connection to the BSD distributions.  The PDP-11 Sourcebook B < is loaded with commercial applications that ran under Ultrix-11., < I'll bet the VAX Sourcebook had even more.  I Ultrix was derived from BSD4.1, as I recall.  In 1982 I believe ther were F very few Unix boxes, that is about when  a number of companies started	 producing G 68K boxes, and I would imagine that there were a larger number of VAXen  until  sometime after 1986  <  < > E < >    I do not doubt that there was a time when more systems ran VMS 7 < >    on VAXen than all the UNIX systems put together.  < > < I would love to see numbers supporting this, but I doubt it. <  < bill <  < --L < Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesF < bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. < University of Scranton   |@ < Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h> <  < --- ( < Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.< < Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A < Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004  <  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:20:25 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: charon vax emulator??? 3 Message-ID: <Q6RmaAmCMMRF@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <412ccf44$0$2129$ba620dc5@nova.planet.nl>, Wilm Boerhout <w3.boerhout@planet.nl> writes:  > Bob Koehler wrote: >  >>  H >>    Sneakernet will get you.  Meanwhile, I admit I haven't seen a BSODI >>    for days.  But then, I've been home all week taking care of a wound   >>    I asked my doctor to make. >  > I hope it heals well.  > K > Sneakernet may be disabled as well by Charon-VAX. Just assign the floppy  F > and the CDROM drive to their VMS counterpart within Charon-VAX, and K > $ALLOCATE the VMS drive for those devices. Then Windows won't be able to   > read from them.   #    I hope you don't have a USB bus.    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:22:39 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: charon vax emulator??? 3 Message-ID: <nFAP6wyqncXQ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <412F8629.5060807@MMaz.com>, "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes:   H > Propagating this ignorance is getting old... If you setup a W2K or XP B > host, with a single NIC and do NOT configure the NIC to use any C > protocols except NDIS5, you CANNOT become infected by way of the  H > countless flaws in Windows because, there are no Netbios, Netbeui, or C > TCP/IP protocols running native to Windows to exploit and if you  J > configure the system per SRI's recommendations, the host isn't used for 9 > any other purpose so sneaker net isn't even an issue!!!   E    I don't care what SRI claims.  I don't believe it.  What's to stop G    someone from walking up and inserting a USB pen drive?  VMS couldn't -    have it allocated because it didn't exist.   F    I do agree that closing off the network closes off THE major vectorC    for attacks on Windows.  I don't agree that that makes Windows a 
    secure OS.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:21:09 GMT & From: jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net># Subject: Re: charon vax emulator??? 8 Message-ID: <8rd6j0lkoa58rhkt4ofog4rbvsneglnp03@4ax.com>  I On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:06:17 -0700, "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>  wrote:   >Bob Kaplow wrote: >  >>B >>It's kind of like having a VAX with the worlds worst firmware... >> >>   >>G >Propagating this ignorance is getting old... If you setup a W2K or XP  
 >host, ...  7 Perhaps some folks need to take a step back just a bit. C I took Bob's note as humor, with a little reality just for balance.   G Firmware is usually considered small, tight, and very low overhead.  As J such, Windows is kinda a resource pig, even with all the stuff turned off.  6 Laugh a little.  It helps make the day less strenuous.   --- jls 0 The preceding message was personal opinion only.6 I do not speak in any authorized capacity for anyone,  and certainly not my employer.- (get rid of the xxxz in my address to e-mail)    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:09:46 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> # Subject: Re: charon vax emulator??? ' Message-ID: <4133433A.6000405@MMaz.com>    Bob Koehler wrote:  d >In article <412ccf44$0$2129$ba620dc5@nova.planet.nl>, Wilm Boerhout <w3.boerhout@planet.nl> writes: >    >  >>Bob Koehler wrote: >>     >>H >>>   Sneakernet will get you.  Meanwhile, I admit I haven't seen a BSODI >>>   for days.  But then, I've been home all week taking care of a wound   >>>   I asked my doctor to make.	 >>>        >>>  >>I hope it heals well.  >>K >>Sneakernet may be disabled as well by Charon-VAX. Just assign the floppy  F >>and the CDROM drive to their VMS counterpart within Charon-VAX, and K >>$ALLOCATE the VMS drive for those devices. Then Windows won't be able to   >>read from them.  >>     >> > $ >   I hope you don't have a USB bus. >    > I Which can still be disabled.  You seem hell-bent on proving that Windows  E cannot be gutted to the point of being a viable hosting platform for  @ CHARON-VAX.  If you had spent as much time actually testing and I evaluating the product, as I did, rather than attempting to find ways to  H prove it isn't a potential solution, you might have very well purchased C CHARON by now, presuming you even have a commercial need for VAX...      Barry    --    > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                            ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:15:40 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> # Subject: Re: charon vax emulator??? ' Message-ID: <4133449C.6060301@MMaz.com>    jlsue wrote:  J >On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:06:17 -0700, "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> >wrote:  >    >  >>Bob Kaplow wrote:  >>     >>C >>>It's kind of like having a VAX with the worlds worst firmware... 	 >>>        >>> H >>Propagating this ignorance is getting old... If you setup a W2K or XP  >>host, ...  >>     >> > 8 >Perhaps some folks need to take a step back just a bit.D >I took Bob's note as humor, with a little reality just for balance. > H >Firmware is usually considered small, tight, and very low overhead.  AsK >such, Windows is kinda a resource pig, even with all the stuff turned off.  >    > I The crux of the issue, using Windows as a hosting OS for CHARON-VAX, was  H the circular discussion of Windows not capable of being secured for the A purposes of running CHARON-VAX, and therefore remaining prone to  I virus/trojan infections, not whether Windows was the 'best' choice for a  I hosting OS.  Even I would agree that other options may have been better,  L but without never seeing the CHARON code, it is pure speculation on my part.   Barry      --    > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                            ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:25:07 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> # Subject: Re: charon vax emulator??? ' Message-ID: <413346D3.5020605@MMaz.com>    Bob Koehler wrote:  V >In article <412F8629.5060807@MMaz.com>, "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes: >    > H >>Propagating this ignorance is getting old... If you setup a W2K or XP B >>host, with a single NIC and do NOT configure the NIC to use any C >>protocols except NDIS5, you CANNOT become infected by way of the  H >>countless flaws in Windows because, there are no Netbios, Netbeui, or C >>TCP/IP protocols running native to Windows to exploit and if you  J >>configure the system per SRI's recommendations, the host isn't used for 9 >>any other purpose so sneaker net isn't even an issue!!!  >>     >> > F >   I don't care what SRI claims.  I don't believe it.  What's to stopH >   someone from walking up and inserting a USB pen drive?  VMS couldn't. >   have it allocated because it didn't exist. >    > G And there is absolutely no reason that the person configuring the host  G OS could not disable the USB ports, as well as firewire, Floppy, CD's,  C etc.  All hardware in Windows can be disabled at the driver level,  G surely you know that.  Unless you're handing out admin passwords, then  D at that point you have little chance of external influence but then D again, I still come from, and operate with, the strange notion that C 'physical security' of a system is as important as the network and  D software configuration of the system, so all of my servers are in a B locked room...  Aren't yours?  Without physical security, any OS, $ including VMS, can be compromised...  G >   I do agree that closing off the network closes off THE major vector D >   for attacks on Windows.  I don't agree that that makes Windows a >   secure OS. >    > F You are generalizing the original topic of discussion, that is, using C Windows 2000 or XP as a hosting OS for the sole purpose of running  B CHARON-VAX, and whether the Windows OS could be secured enough to G prevent virus/trojan infection or compromise - which it can!  I do not  I work for SRI, I'm not a SRI mouth piece and receive no compensation from  F SRI, I'm a end-user customer of CHARON-VAX and have proven this first G hand by ways of hands on evaluation as well as 18 months of production   run-time...      Barry    --    > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                            ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:57:03 GMT ) From: "Rick Barry" <richard.barry@hp.com> < Subject: Re: CSWS v2.0 & CSWS_PHP v1.2 - "php4_module" error1 Message-ID: <j7IYc.9045$kx1.690@news.cpqcorp.net>   7 "Chuck Chopp" <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com> wrote in message $ news:412E1EB3.8040402@rtfmcsi.com... > Carl Karcher wrote:  > F > > In a previous article, Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com> wrote: > > K > > ->What is the significance of commenting out this line?  Will it result  in6 > > ->disabling some portion of the PHP functionality? > > J > > Yep - all of it. Looks like the file will support either V2 or V1.x of CSWS. 6 > > You need to comment it out just to do the shutdown" > > then uncomment before startup. > E > OK, that is very annoying but if it is the only work around for the  problem $ > then that is what I'll need to do. > 0 > Has anybody from HP acknowledged this problem? >   - I've made a note to investigate this problem.   E (The best route to ensure that a problem is addresses is to report it J through the normal customer support channels. That way it gets tracked and
 prioritized.)    Regards,  
 Rick Barry* Secure Web Server/Browser Development Team OpenVMS System Software Group  Hewlett-Packard Company 
 Nashua, NH   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:09:24 -0400 * From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com>< Subject: Re: CSWS v2.0 & CSWS_PHP v1.2 - "php4_module" error: Message-ID: <jaJYc.41115$N11.33125@bignews5.bellsouth.net>   Rick Barry wrote:   9 > "Chuck Chopp" <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com> wrote in message & > news:412E1EB3.8040402@rtfmcsi.com... >  >>Carl Karcher wrote:  >> >>E >>>In a previous article, Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com> wrote:  >>> J >>>->What is the significance of commenting out this line?  Will it result >  > in > 5 >>>->disabling some portion of the PHP functionality?  >>> I >>>Yep - all of it. Looks like the file will support either V2 or V1.x of  >  > CSWS.  > 5 >>>You need to comment it out just to do the shutdown ! >>>then uncomment before startup.  >>E >>OK, that is very annoying but if it is the only work around for the  > 	 > problem  > $ >>then that is what I'll need to do. >>0 >>Has anybody from HP acknowledged this problem? >> >  > / > I've made a note to investigate this problem.  > G > (The best route to ensure that a problem is addresses is to report it L > through the normal customer support channels. That way it gets tracked and > prioritized.)   M This happened on a hobbyist system so I posted my inquiry about it here.  Is  J a hobbyist system eligible for using the normal customer support channels 4 for purposes of reporting a software product defect?     --   Chuck Chopp   8 ChuckChopp (at) rtfmcsi (dot) com http://www.rtfmcsi.com  @ RTFM Consulting Services Inc.     864 801 2795 voice & voicemail2 103 Autumn Hill Road              864 801 2774 fax Greer, SC  29651  , Do not send me unsolicited commercial email.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 05:54:07 -07002 From: harri.klemetti@fipow.abb.fi (Harri Klemetti)6 Subject: Re: DCE: Initialization (get bindings) failed= Message-ID: <472dc69e.0408300454.63e07fa9@posting.google.com>   w harri.klemetti@fipow.abb.fi (Harri Klemetti) wrote in message news:<472dc69e.0408262323.4cd0ebfa@posting.google.com>...  > Hi,  > H > I'm trying to get DCE (in RPC_only mode) running in a new DS25 machine! > with OpenVMS 7.3-2 and DCE 3.1.  > D > DCE$DCED process will not start; in the .OUT file there comes this > error:( > "Initialization (get bindings) failed" >  > What can I do? >  > BR,  >  >     Harri Klemetti >     ABB Oy, Helsinki, FINLAND      Hi,   ) The complete error message is as follows:   + DKB0:<SYS0.DCELOCAL.VAR.DCED>DCE$DCED.OUT;7    $ SET NOVERIFYP 2004-08-26-23:21:07.695+03:00I----- dced FATAL dhd general MAIN.C;1 1506 0x7bd08 d28 8 Initialization (get bindings) failed, status=0x0e12815a.8   SYSTEM       job terminated at 26-AUG-2004 23:21:07.70     Accounting information: O   Buffered I/O count:                221      Peak working set size:       8816 O   Direct I/O count:                   37      Peak virtual size:         182656 O   Page faults:                       614      Mounted volumes:                0 O   Charged CPU time:        0 00:00:00.05      Elapsed time:       0 00:00:00.22     = I also run perf_server as suggested, and here is the outcome:   5 $ $perf_server :== $sys$system:dce$rpcperf_server.exe  $ $perf_server 10 allif   *** Can't inq_bindings - e12815a    
 Any help?   3 -Harri    (Still desperately stuck on this problem)    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:16:08 GMT 1 From: "Abdul Mateen Khalid" <abdul.khalid@hp.com> 6 Subject: Re: DCE: Initialization (get bindings) failed1 Message-ID: <IEGYc.9030$Xp1.849@news.cpqcorp.net>    Hi  < The error code "0e12815a" maps to "invalid network address".  K Following are the probable reasons DCE/RPC can return the  "invalid network  address"  error   ( 1) Problem with the network host address, 2) Problem with the network interface device& 3) Failure of function gethostbyname()  J Have there been any recent changes to TCP/IP configuration on your system?D If possible, can you let me know the exact trigger for this problem.7 What does the output of TCPIP>show interface look like?  Is FAILSafe IP configured?  K I would also suggest raising a problem report through your customer support 7 representative for further investigation of this issue.      Thanks Abdul Mateen Khalid       ? "Harri Klemetti" <harri.klemetti@fipow.abb.fi> wrote in message 7 news:472dc69e.0408300454.63e07fa9@posting.google.com... ? > harri.klemetti@fipow.abb.fi (Harri Klemetti) wrote in message 9 news:<472dc69e.0408262323.4cd0ebfa@posting.google.com>...  > > Hi,  > > J > > I'm trying to get DCE (in RPC_only mode) running in a new DS25 machine# > > with OpenVMS 7.3-2 and DCE 3.1.  > > F > > DCE$DCED process will not start; in the .OUT file there comes this
 > > error:* > > "Initialization (get bindings) failed" > >  > > What can I do? > >  > > BR,  > >  > >     Harri Klemetti! > >     ABB Oy, Helsinki, FINLAND  >  >  > Hi,  > + > The complete error message is as follows:  > - > DKB0:<SYS0.DCELOCAL.VAR.DCED>DCE$DCED.OUT;7  >  > $ SET NOVERIFYJ > 2004-08-26-23:21:07.695+03:00I----- dced FATAL dhd general MAIN.C;1 1506 0x7bd08  > d28 : > Initialization (get bindings) failed, status=0x0e12815a.: >   SYSTEM       job terminated at 26-AUG-2004 23:21:07.70 >  >   Accounting information: F >   Buffered I/O count:                221      Peak working set size: 8816B >   Direct I/O count:                   37      Peak virtual size: 182656@ >   Page faults:                       614      Mounted volumes: 0 E >   Charged CPU time:        0 00:00:00.05      Elapsed time:       0  00:00:00.22  >  > ? > I also run perf_server as suggested, and here is the outcome:  > 7 > $ $perf_server :== $sys$system:dce$rpcperf_server.exe  > $ $perf_server 10 allif " > *** Can't inq_bindings - e12815a >  >  > Any help?  > 5 > -Harri    (Still desperately stuck on this problem)    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:45:30 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) M Subject: Re: Figures on Itanic migration plans by HP-UX, VMS, and Tru64 users 3 Message-ID: <2P9p1520$XkW@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <FpadnZmzMbzUt7DcRVn-tw@mpowercom.net>, "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> writes:   N > That's actually a good comparison.  Like the PDP-11 there will be no new VAXG > or Alpha processors but there will be a few diehards hanging in there L > decades after the last new chip came out of the foundry.  Maybe Mentec canN > take over the VAX and Alpha lines too.  They do have a good track record for3 > keeping the PDP-11 alive, albeit on life support.   2    So how many copies of Charon-11 have been sold?   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 10:23:24 -0700. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) Subject: Re: HP Away= Message-ID: <f30679fb.0408300923.116b04c3@posting.google.com>    rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) wrote in message news:<rdeininger-2808040855030001@user-105n8nu.dialup.mindspring.com>... F > In article <412f8bcf$0$6171$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, "Alex Daniels"0 > <AlexNOSPAMTHANKSDaniels@themail.co.uk> wrote: >  > ...  > 	 > >Fabio,  > > H > >The US price is correct, as of earlier today, its came directly from N > >following links off the page I posted. In the examples on that first page, O > >they are single CPU not dual, the -2 in rx1600-2 I believe is indicating it  2 > >has an Itanium 2 in it, not that it has 2 CPUs. > L >  The "-2" in the name means it can hold UP TO 2 CPUs.  You can buy it with? > 1 or 2.  The rx2600 is also a "-2", and the rx4640 is a "-8".  > J > AFAIK, the only CPU available for the rx1600-2 is 1 GHz.  I've not heard > of a 1.1 GHz flavor. >  > M > >As you can see, you can get one for as low as $2110, but the price I gave  O > >was the more or less the same spec as you gave, with the 24x7 linux support.  >  > H > The rx1600-2 happily runs VMS 8.2 FT (though support won't be officialH > until the real V8.2 release ships), so this is likely the lowest entry/ > price for a VMS system in the history of VMS.  > A > Compare the price to an Alphaserver DS15.  You'll never get the I > configurations to match exactly, but if you just want a cheap system to < > run VMS, the rx1600 is probably the winner for most folks. > 
 >   -- Robert     + Yes ! But ... read the Processor columns !    : The RX1600 qith one processor costs US$ 2800 and with two + processors US$ 5600,00 (+/-).  Am I blind ?    Regards    FC   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:29:27 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ! Subject: Re: HPworld - I Survived 3 Message-ID: <d+E2alm7fFPA@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <2p95glFi9af6U1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  >   F > What do you think the trains run on?  Granted, we still have a smokyG > old engine burning bituminous and trying to impress the tourists, but 2 > all the real trains that go by here are diesels.  B    A lot less oil for what they are hauling than any other form of    land transport.  E > And, keep in mind, that although the cost of travel by car is still G > cheaper the price of consumer gas is artificially high as it is still D > more tax than product.  That also means that unless the governmentC > used the opportunity to rape the taxpayers once again the cost of H > consumer gas would rise by a lesser percentage than the cost of dieselH > for trains who don't pay most of those taxes and pass along the one's & > they do pay to the ticket purchaser.  D    Most of those taxes go to build roads.  Why should trains pay forA    roads?  But really, complaining about the taxes we have on oil D    products misses what most countries put on oil.  We got it cheap.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:30:53 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ! Subject: Re: HPworld - I Survived 3 Message-ID: <ctEigPZg0MLq@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <2p96q0Fin9b5U1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: ; > In article <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEHODLAA.tom@kednos.com>,   " >> European trains are electric.   > M > I know, but US trains are not.  Although we had the technology at one time. K > As a matter of fact, Scranton, PA is proudly reclaiming it's old title of H > "The Electric City" which was because we had the first electric trolly > system, long since defunct.      Steamtown dead already?    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:33:13 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ! Subject: Re: HPworld - I Survived 3 Message-ID: <ZaqIxik387ov@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <2p96q0Fin9b5U1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: ; > In article <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEHODLAA.tom@kednos.com>,  >>  " >> European trains are electric.   >   > I know, but US trains are not.  H    Interesting.  One of the few lpaces where Amtrack runs at a profit isJ    on it's east coast electric lines between Washington and Boston.  Also 5    one of the few places where Amtrack owns the rail.    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:35:47 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ! Subject: Re: HPworld - I Survived 3 Message-ID: <sJv3ue+ltOJ4@eisner.encompasserve.org>   b In article <412FA4D9.20101@Flying-Disk.com>, Alan Frisbie <Usenet01REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> writes: > @ > The best part of going by train?   No *&^#^$% TSA hassles, and > employees who treat you well.   +    I understand the TSA is working on that.    ------------------------------   Date: 30 Aug 2004 15:24:48 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)! Subject: Re: HPworld - I Survived * Message-ID: <2pgv60Fklj2aU1@uni-berlin.de>  3 In article <d+E2alm7fFPA@eisner.encompasserve.org>, > 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:W > In article <2p95glFi9af6U1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  >>  G >> What do you think the trains run on?  Granted, we still have a smoky H >> old engine burning bituminous and trying to impress the tourists, but3 >> all the real trains that go by here are diesels.  > D >    A lot less oil for what they are hauling than any other form of >    land transport.  H You don't have to convince me.  I can bnot think of one single redeeming! quality in the trucking industry.    > F >> And, keep in mind, that although the cost of travel by car is stillH >> cheaper the price of consumer gas is artificially high as it is stillE >> more tax than product.  That also means that unless the government D >> used the opportunity to rape the taxpayers once again the cost ofI >> consumer gas would rise by a lesser percentage than the cost of diesel I >> for trains who don't pay most of those taxes and pass along the one's  ' >> they do pay to the ticket purchaser.  > F >    Most of those taxes go to build roads.  Why should trains pay for
 >    roads?     C I agree, but that doesn't weaken my argument.  The trains, who burn F un-taxed (well, not taxed at the same rate) are already more expensiveD so a rise in raw oil prices will not make them suddenly cheaper than cars.   D >             But really, complaining about the taxes we have on oilF >    products misses what most countries put on oil.  We got it cheap.  B Non Sequitor.  Because the government in some other country breaksD both your legs for jaywalking wouldn't make this one better for onlyD breaking one of your legs.  Going back to the original argument, theF majority of the damage to the roads is done by heavy transport.  UsingE more trains and decreasing the amount of heavy transport on our roads I would reduce this cost considerably.  It would also make the roads safer. D Trucks today are dangerous and for the most part impossible to driveF legally and that is by design. Like I said above, I can not think of aG single reason for favoring the trucking industry over any other method.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 30 Aug 2004 15:26:25 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)! Subject: Re: HPworld - I Survived * Message-ID: <2pgv91Fklj2aU2@uni-berlin.de>  3 In article <ctEigPZg0MLq@eisner.encompasserve.org>, > 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:W > In article <2p96q0Fin9b5U1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: < >> In article <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEHODLAA.tom@kednos.com>, > # >>> European trains are electric.    >>  N >> I know, but US trains are not.  Although we had the technology at one time.L >> As a matter of fact, Scranton, PA is proudly reclaiming it's old title ofI >> "The Electric City" which was because we had the first electric trolly  >> system, long since defunct. >  >   Steamtown dead already?   F Sadly, no.  That public nuisance continues to generate massive amountsG of air and noise pollution while dipping deeply into the rubes wallets.    bill      --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 30 Aug 2004 15:30:16 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)! Subject: Re: HPworld - I Survived * Message-ID: <2pgvg8Fklj2aU3@uni-berlin.de>  3 In article <ZaqIxik387ov@eisner.encompasserve.org>, > 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:W > In article <2p96q0Fin9b5U1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: < >> In article <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEHODLAA.tom@kednos.com>, >>> # >>> European trains are electric.    >>  ! >> I know, but US trains are not.  > J >    Interesting.  One of the few lpaces where Amtrack runs at a profit isL >    on it's east coast electric lines between Washington and Boston.  Also 7 >    one of the few places where Amtrack owns the rail.   A Most intereting.  The only train I have ever ridden in the US was E between Boston and NYC.  It was diesel.  Had seats like an old schooleD bus (not like all those adds for Amtrak I see on TV). And smelled ofF exhaust like an Greyhound bus all the way.  Not likely to make me wantC travel that way again. Granted, that was quite a while ago, but theo- trains I see in my travels all look the same.x  u bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   H   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:07:30 -0400o# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>v! Subject: Re: HPworld - I Survived , Message-ID: <k4Wdndj5hcVTza7cRVn-sQ@igs.net>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:5 > In article <d+E2alm7fFPA@eisner.encompasserve.org>,d? > koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:eD >> In article <2p95glFi9af6U1@uni-berlin.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill >> Gunshannon) writes: >>>eH >>> What do you think the trains run on?  Granted, we still have a smokyE >>> old engine burning bituminous and trying to impress the tourists,r8 >>> but all the real trains that go by here are diesels. >>E >>    A lot less oil for what they are hauling than any other form of  >>    land transport.- >-@ > You don't have to convince me.  I can bnot think of one single- > redeeming quality in the trucking industry.o >s >>G >>> And, keep in mind, that although the cost of travel by car is still-C >>> cheaper the price of consumer gas is artificially high as it ishA >>> still more tax than product.  That also means that unless the D >>> government used the opportunity to rape the taxpayers once againG >>> the cost of consumer gas would rise by a lesser percentage than the C >>> cost of diesel for trains who don't pay most of those taxes and = >>> pass along the one's they do pay to the ticket purchaser.o >>G >>    Most of those taxes go to build roads.  Why should trains pay forV >>    roads? >iE > I agree, but that doesn't weaken my argument.  The trains, who burnaH > un-taxed (well, not taxed at the same rate) are already more expensiveF > so a rise in raw oil prices will not make them suddenly cheaper than > cars.i >GE >>             But really, complaining about the taxes we have on oilhG >>    products misses what most countries put on oil.  We got it cheap.v >rD > Non Sequitor.  Because the government in some other country breaksF > both your legs for jaywalking wouldn't make this one better for onlyF > breaking one of your legs.  Going back to the original argument, theH > majority of the damage to the roads is done by heavy transport.  UsingG > more trains and decreasing the amount of heavy transport on our roadsbD > would reduce this cost considerably.  It would also make the roadsG > safer. Trucks today are dangerous and for the most part impossible tohC > drive legally and that is by design. Like I said above, I can not F > think of a single reason for favoring the trucking industry over any > other method.l    K Companies that actually manufacture/sell "things" and ship/receive products L all seem to love JIT (Just-In-Time) delivery. It reduces inventories, boostsI cash flow, and generally makes their stock (product on the shelves and inaJ the 'market' ) more attractive because they don't carry a lot of inventory which may become stale-dated.   D Many of these companies figure that the lesser freight costs of railH shipments are more than offset by the factors above...especially if your. executive compensation is set by stock prices.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:12:35 GMT 1 From: "Abdul Mateen Khalid" <abdul.khalid@hp.com>-1 Subject: Re: Initialization (get bindings) failed52 Message-ID: <TQEYc.9024$Se1.3874@news.cpqcorp.net>   Hi  : Please run the DCE$RPCPERF_SERVER and post the output here  + 1) Define the perf_server symbol as followsa  3 $perf_server :== $sys$system:dce$rpcperf_server.exel   2) Run the perf server program   $perf_server 10 allif       C >DCE$DCED process will not start; in the .OUT file there comes thisR   > error:  ( > "Initialization (get bindings) failed"  L I suspect the error message is not complete. Can you post the complete error report.    Thanks & Regards   Abdul Mateen Khalidh  ? "Harri Klemetti" <harri.klemetti@fipow.abb.fi> wrote in message 7 news:472dc69e.0408262323.4cd0ebfa@posting.google.com...e > Hi,  >VH > I'm trying to get DCE (in RPC_only mode) running in a new DS25 machine! > with OpenVMS 7.3-2 and DCE 3.1.D >sD > DCE$DCED process will not start; in the .OUT file there comes this > error:( > "Initialization (get bindings) failed" >  > What can I do? >s > BR,  >u >     Harri Klemetti >     ABB Oy, Helsinki, FINLANDt   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:22:34 +02001 From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>+ Subject: IP over new Fibrechannel adapters?n2 Message-ID: <cguh3g$eep$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>  P There is a new FCA2684 Fibrechannel adapter available for OpenVMS and Tru64. In N fact it is a rebadged Emulex LP10000 adapter (maybe with different firmware), I and it has very impressive specifications. More importantly however, the aM specifications mention that TCPIP over Fibrechannel is supported for OpenVMS hJ (not for Tru64). I assume this means that theses adapters are now seen as J 'normal' network adapters by the system, and that other network protocols 6 (Cluster !) will also be supported in the near future.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:56:56 GMTi" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG$ Subject: LK layout USB keyboard?????0 Message-ID: <00A37210.EDFDFEC0@SendSpamHere.ORG>   Hi,e  C A dual processor rx2600 was delivered to my doorstep on Friday.  :)n  L When I opened it, there was a PeeCee style USB keyboard in the shipping box.L Is there a LK layout USB keyboard?  If so, part #? ...and do I order it from/ HP or some 3rd party contracted to build these?:   Thanks -- D< http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  -- o, Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product! 5 -- rK VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMo   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:51:32 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)5( Subject: Re: LK layout USB keyboard?????2 Message-ID: <EOJYc.9061$cG1.8859@news.cpqcorp.net>  S In article <00A37210.EDFDFEC0@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:   % :Is there a LK layout USB keyboard?  t  ;   3X-LK463-%%  The -A2 is the English US/UK keyboard, IIRC.   N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.coms   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:54:55 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)r1 Subject: Re: Planned port of freeware to Itanium?D3 Message-ID: <I$56foiIXvCc@eisner.encompasserve.org>c  j In article <79de16e3.0408270452.652f2557@posting.google.com>, Anders.Wallin@om.com (Anders Wallin) writes: > Hello, > F > Are there any plans from HP for a port of any of the products on the > freeware CD to Itanium?  > H > The freeware products are very useful and it vould be valuable to have! > access to them on Itanium also.   B    I thinks that's up to the folks who proivided them in the first#    place, or anyone who volunteers.g   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:40:52 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)e1 Subject: Re: Planned port of freeware to Itanium? 2 Message-ID: <EEJYc.9059$cG1.6047@news.cpqcorp.net>  j In article <79de16e3.0408270452.652f2557@posting.google.com>, Anders.Wallin@om.com (Anders Wallin) writes:  E :Are there any plans from HP for a port of any of the products on the  :freeware CD to Itanium? :oG :The freeware products are very useful and it vould be valuable to have-  :access to them on Itanium also.  C   Please do realize that the OpenVMS Freeware is a collection and a:@   distribution mechanism, and not a support nor porting service.  H   Please do realize that there are presently six Freeware distributions,4   and the contents can and often do differ markedly.  F   Please do realize that should you have need of a particular FreewareD   package, you are quite free to port it and submit it for the next G   Freeware distribution.  (The collection for the next Freeware is also F   underway -- and there are core tools, such as Bliss for OpeNVMS I64,F   that will be made available.)  If you wish to specifically request aF   package be ported but are unable to port it yourself for any reason,G   then the folks in the HP Services organization can and variously haveu?   offered folks assistance through a contract services request.   H   I do expect to see the core 000TOOLS tools ported -- most have alreadyK   been ported and are available, and many are posted on available websites.-  F   If you have specific requests, please do contact the submitter(s) orH   maintainers of the particular Freeware kits (if any) -- and please do C   consider joining the community of folks that have ported Freewarel3   tools, and/or that have submitted Freeware tools.r     Thank you!  '   http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/freewaree   	--:  I   I could certainly make a career out of porting and re-porting Freeware,eH   though work on the Freeware is not part of my job description here in G   OpenVMS Engineering -- the Freeware is one of my "weekends" projects.i    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faqXN  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.comS   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:46:38 GMTv# From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com>t* Subject: Re: problems setting up a cluster= Message-ID: <2dGYc.11107$w_4.1577105@twister.tampabay.rr.com>e  E Problems mounting your system disk. Either shared, or it may have thei same unit number or volume.a     Alex Daniels wrote:mB > "Rodrigo Ventura" <yoda-NOSPAM@isr.ist.utl.pt> wrote in message 7 > news:newscache$4qj63i$shh$1@newsfront4.netvisao.pt...a >  >>Hello everyone,  >>? >>I've been trying to set up a OpenVMS cluster using a bunch of H >>discontinued alpha workstations. I have two DEC 3000/500 and three DECF >>3000/400. I installed OpenVMS (hobbyist CD, ver 7.3-1) on one of theF >>500's, then I setup the other 500 as a sattelite. All works well now9 >>(I even have setiathome running in each one of them ;).? >>@ >>When I tryed to repeat the procedure in the 400 machines I gotD >>problems. I all seemed to went well, during the cluster_config_lanH >>script, before the final reboot. When it boots the problems start whenG >>the machine is unable to open the paging file (note that a disk localp= >>to the machine was initialized for that purpose, during theXF >>cluster_config_lan setup). Then it issues a couple of errors relatedH >>with lack of memory, which seem consequence of lack of page file. Then8 >>it crashes with a bugcheck=0000036C and a memory dump: >> >>$ anal/crash sysdump.dmp >>) >>OpenVMS (TM) Alpha system dump analyzern) >>...analyzing a selective memory dump...  >>: >>%SDA-W-NOTSAVED, global pages not saved in the dump file' >>Dump taken on 27-AUG-2004 10:03:06.66n! >>PROCGONE, Process not in systemo >> >>System crash information >>------------------------/ >>Time of system crash: 27-AUG-2004 10:03:06.66h >>H >>Version of system: OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3-1 >>' >>System Version Major ID/Minor ID: 3/0i >>/ >>VMScluster node: xxxxxx, a DEC 3000 Model 400a >>% >>Crash CPU ID/Primary CPU ID:  00/00r >>6 >>Bitmask of CPUs active/available:  00000001/00000001 >> >>CPU bugcheck codes: 3 >>        CPU 00 -- PROCGONE, Process not in systemC >>$ >>CPU 00 Processor crash information$ >>---------------------------------- >>= >>CPU 00 reason for Bugcheck: PROCGONE, Process not in system  >>2 >>Process currently executing on this CPU: SYSINIT >>! >>Current image file: SYSINIT.EXE  >> >>Current IPL: 0  (decimal)o >>! >>CPU database address:  814300002 >>$ >>CPU 00 Processor crash information$ >>---------------------------------- >>* >>CPUs Capabilities:    PRIMARY,QUORUM,RUN >> >>General registers: >>= >>R0   = 00000000.00000124  R1   = FFFFFFFF.811214D8  R2   = > >>00000000.000000035= >>R3   = FFFFFFFF.810C1300  R4   = FFFFFFFF.8158D340  R5   =   >>00000000.000000C0h= >>R6   = FFFFFFFF.8028A8C4  R7   = 00000000.7FFA1FC0  R8   = t >>00000000.00000000l= >>R9   = FFFFFFFF.810D4BF8  R10  = 00000000.7FFCF800  R11  = o >>00000000.7FF741B2e= >>R12  = 00000000.00000000  R13  = FFFFFFFF.811214D8  R14  = ! >>00000000.00000000 = >>R15  = 00000000.000204D8  R16  = 00000000.0000036C  R17  =   >>00000000.000037EFm= >>R18  = 00000000.00000000  R19  = 00000000.00000000  R20  = a >>00000000.00000000s= >>R21  = 00000000.00000110  R22  = 00000000.00000001  R23  =   >>00000000.00000800g= >>R24  = 00000000.12016074  AI   = 00000000.00000000  RA   = s >>FFFFFFFF.810086A0'= >>PV   = FFFFFFFF.811216E8  R28  = 00000000.7FFF01B4  FP   = e >>00000000.7FFA1F20u4 >>PC   = FFFFFFFF.8028AD60  PS   = 18000000.00000003 >>$ >>CPU 00 Processor crash information$ >>---------------------------------- >> >>Processor Internal Registers:  >>= >>ASN  = 00000000.0000003E                     ASTSR/ASTEN = a
 >>0000000F= >>IPL  =          00000000  PCBB = 00000000.01D36080  PRBR = a >>FFFFFFFF.81430000i= >>PTBR = 00000000.00000E9C  SCBB = 00000000.00000959  SISR =   >>00000000.00000000M= >>VPTB = FFFFFEFC.00000000  FPCR = 00000000.00000000  MCES =   >>00000000.00000000E >>$ >>        KSP    = 00000000.7FFA1F18$ >>        ESP    = 00000000.7FFA6000$ >>        SSP    = 00000000.7FFAE000$ >>        USP    = 00000000.7B04DA40 >>$ >>CPU 00 Processor crash information$ >>---------------------------------- >>8 >>                No spinlocks currently owned by CPU 00 >> >>  >>Any clues on what is going on? >>H >>I suspect it has something I did between the install of the second 500G >>and the first 400. I noticed that the MONITOR program was unable show  >>all nodes status:X >> >>MONITOR> mon clussC >>%MONITOR-I-ESTABCON, establishing connection to remote node(s)...c; >>%VPM-W-NOCONNECT, Unable to connect to remote node xxxxxx 9 >>-MONITOR-W-NODEINIERR, error during node initializationw! >>%MONITOR-I-CONT, continuing....  >>> >>So I thought it had something to do with DECnet. Then I used? >>NET$CONFIGURE.COM to configure DECnet -- maybe this procedure-E >>destroyed some previously auto-configured stuff... Then I regretted.4 >>and disabled it by (re-)commenting out the "SUBMITB >>SYS$MANAGER:STARTNET.COM" command in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM. Even so, >>DECnet still works:  >>
 >>$ sh net >>G >>Product:  DECNET        Node:  xxxxxx               Address(es):  x.xhD >>Product:  TCP/IP        Node:  xxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xx Address(es):  >>xxx.xxx.xxx.xx >>A >>This is all very strange to me... (linux wizard & vms newbie ;)  >>	 >>Cheers,  >> >>Rodrigo Venturar >  >  > Can you boot it like this....  >  > P00>>> b -fl x,20000 > L > Were 'x' is the system root you are booting from. Then post the output of  > the point where it crashes.h > M > If you are using volume shadowing ensure SHADOW_SYS_UNIT is the same as on  : > the other nodes (as you are using a shared system disk). >  > Alex >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 08:49:21 -07002 From: harri.klemetti@fipow.abb.fi (Harri Klemetti)* Subject: Re: problems setting up a cluster= Message-ID: <472dc69e.0408300749.6f36b73b@posting.google.com>   X lewis@e.thundermaker.net wrote in message news:<SfyYc.236$vf3.116817@news.uswest.net>... > Rodrigo Ventura <yoda-NOSPAM@isr.ist.utl.pt> writes in article <newscache$4qj63i$shh$1@newsfront4.netvisao.pt> dated Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:28:34 +0100:0@ > >I've been trying to set up a OpenVMS cluster using a bunch ofI > >discontinued alpha workstations. I have two DEC 3000/500 and three DEC1G > >3000/400. I installed OpenVMS (hobbyist CD, ver 7.3-1) on one of thekG > >500's, then I setup the other 500 as a sattelite. All works well now.: > >(I even have setiathome running in each one of them ;). > > A > >When I tryed to repeat the procedure in the 400 machines I goteE > >problems. I all seemed to went well, during the cluster_config_lan I > >script, before the final reboot. When it boots the problems start whenlH > >the machine is unable to open the paging file (note that a disk local> > >to the machine was initialized for that purpose, during theG > >cluster_config_lan setup). Then it issues a couple of errors relatedfI > >with lack of memory, which seem consequence of lack of page file. Thena9 > >it crashes with a bugcheck=0000036C and a memory dump:t > K > You can get around the pagefile problem by putting a small pagefile and a J > swapfile in [SYSn.SYSEXE].  This can be done from a working cluster node > using the SYSMAN utility.p > K > Then, if the other node boots better, you'll be able to log in and try toa( > figure out the cause of the problem.   > 0 > --Spud Demon		spud_demon -at- thundermaker.netH > Somebody please quote me because Google doesn't get posts from my ISP.     Hi,u  C Have you checked that you have a different volume label for each of C the system (pagefile) disks in your cluster? In a cluster each disk7 must have a unique label.u  . You can name you system disks e.g. as follows:   NODE A           node_a_sysu NODE B           node_b_sys  NODE C           node_c_sys-   Boot each node without cluster 7  
 >>> B -FL 0,1l SYSBOOT> SET VAXCLUSTER 0K
 SYSBOOT> C  B and change the disk volume labels. The volume label can be changed using command:  $ $ SET VOLUME disk: /LABEL=node_a_sys  ( Then boot each node as a cluster member   
 >>> B -FL 0,1< SYSBOOT> SET VAXCLUSTER 2a
 SYSBOOT> C   -Harri   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:40:52 +0100 + From: Rodrigo Ventura <yoda@isr.ist.utl.pt>1* Subject: Re: problems setting up a cluster) Message-ID: <m3llfwa8a3.fsf@pixie.isrnet>   L >>>>> "Alex" == Alex Daniels <AlexNOSPAMTHANKSDaniels@themail.co.uk> writes:  '     Alex> Can you boot it like this....i       P00> b -fl x,20000  E     Alex> Were 'x' is the system root you are booting from. Then postD3     Alex> the output of the point where it crashes..  F Hum, I didn't know the purpose of the first number in the -fl pair! IfC it means the system root as in [SYSn], then I have to say "the shitb hit the fan"...-  B Assuming that the OpenVMS automatic boot of a sattelite node afterE cluster_config_lan uses a correct boot flag, all other boots use boott@ flags 0,0. If this means that a sattelite uses [SYS0] instead ofD [SYSn], it explains why it fails to boot. Is this the reason for the crash?  D But it got more serious: now the main node does not boot anymore! It@ crashes! The bugcheck is now 000003C4. Can it be a corruption ofE [SYS0] by the sattelite nodes? During the boot, two REBUILD-W-DUALLOCrE messages are displayed, saying something about a duplicate allocation A of volume 1. Maybe the page/swap files have to be re-created (can 8 anyone point me to the instructions on how to do that?).  C Maybe the best thing to do is to re-install OpenVMS from stratch...u   Cheers,D   Rodrigoi   -- (  : *** Rodrigo Martins de Matos Ventura <yoda@isr.ist.utl.pt>. ***  Web page: http://www.isr.ist.utl.pt/~yoda0 ***   Teaching Assistant and PhD Student at ISR:7 ***    Instituto de Sistemas e Robotica, Polo de Lisboaw4 ***     Instituto Superior Tecnico, Lisboa, PORTUGALH *** PGP fingerprint = 0119 AD13 9EEE 264A 3F10  31D3 89B3 C6C4 60C6 4585   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:46:17 +0100n+ From: Rodrigo Ventura <yoda@isr.ist.utl.pt>y* Subject: Re: problems setting up a cluster) Message-ID: <m3hdqka812.fsf@pixie.isrnet>i  @ Just an idea: how about running cluster_config_lan, removing allB nodes, including the main one, and then start all over again. ThisE way, all [SYSn] (maybe including [SYS0]?) are deleted, and re-createdaB from scratch. I'm not sure if this includes the page/swap files...   Cheers,s   Rodrigo4   -- .  : *** Rodrigo Martins de Matos Ventura <yoda@isr.ist.utl.pt>. ***  Web page: http://www.isr.ist.utl.pt/~yoda0 ***   Teaching Assistant and PhD Student at ISR:7 ***    Instituto de Sistemas e Robotica, Polo de LisboaP4 ***     Instituto Superior Tecnico, Lisboa, PORTUGALH *** PGP fingerprint = 0119 AD13 9EEE 264A 3F10  31D3 89B3 C6C4 60C6 4585   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Aug 2004 01:44:46 -0700' From: aniranshu@yahoo.co.in (aniranshu)?J Subject: SMART - Standardised Management, Auditing and Reporting Technique= Message-ID: <36ad2016.0408300044.6fb8e385@posting.google.com>f   Hi All, D I have this software in my Alphaserver running VMS7.3-2. I am unableE to locate any documentation on this product SMART. Can anyone help me  out? Regards, Anirban    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:47:52 GMT & From: jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net>+ Subject: Re: Two IPs on same NIC OVMS 7.2-1f8 Message-ID: <3ef6j0tai1aeuemg4oq0uvluqjqras6o66@4ax.com>  1 On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:53:14 +0200, "Hans M. Aus"7! <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:   H >Is it possible to assign two IP addresses on one NIC on one OVMS 7.2-1? > I >Our hospital network is changing from 141.- to 10.- IP addresses and it  J >might to nice to have the Alpha recognize both the old and the new until  >we've finished the transition.d  J Hans... just out of curiosity, is this something that can be easily solved, via DNS updates instead of the system level?  F Note, too, that the routers in use may need to be able to support this. feature of multiple networks on the same port.   --- jlsn0 The preceding message was personal opinion only.6 I do not speak in any authorized capacity for anyone,  and certainly not my employer.- (get rid of the xxxz in my address to e-mail)t   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.481 ************************