1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 03 Dec 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 671       Contents:A Re: Adding LF to CR 's when monitoring  serial port  in a Decterm A Re: Adding LF to CR 's when monitoring  serial port  in a Decterm  Re: CLUSTER_SIZE ramification  Re: Good sftp server? 2 Re: How to make DCL ignore continuation lines too?2 Re: How to make DCL ignore continuation lines too?- Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX - Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX - Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX - Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX - Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX 6 HP Layoffs in New Hampshire the week ending 3-Dec-2004: Re: HP Layoffs in New Hampshire the week ending 3-Dec-2004: Re: HP Layoffs in New Hampshire the week ending 3-Dec-2004: Re: HP Layoffs in New Hampshire the week ending 3-Dec-2004! Re: Hp to use Veritas File system ! Re: Hp to use Veritas File system ! Re: Hp to use Veritas File system ! Re: Hp to use Veritas File system  Re: Is Sue OK ?  Re: Is Sue OK ?  Re: Is Sue OK ?  Re: News Server  Re: News Server  Re: News Server  Re: News Server 7 Reinstalling DECwindows after losing it during upgrade? ; Re: Reinstalling DECwindows after losing it during upgrade?  SMTP: hosting multiple domainsA Re: Stalker Announces Beta Release of CommuniGate Pro for OpenVMS " VMS Jobs Being Offshored to India?& Re: VMS Jobs Being Offshored to India?& Re: VMS Jobs Being Offshored to India? What happened to SIMH ?!?!?!  Re: What happened to SIMH ?!?!?!+ What is the graphical file browser for VMS? / Re: What is the graphical file browser for VMS? / Re: What is the graphical file browser for VMS? / Re: What is the graphical file browser for VMS? 7 Re: [OT] How to make DCL ignore continuation lines too? % [TCPIP V5.4 ECO 4] SSH and intrusions ) Re: [TCPIP V5.4 ECO 4] SSH and intrusions  Re: [TCPIP V5.4] ECO 4 is out   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 00:12:40 -0800 ( From: pulley_p@hotmail.com (Phil Pulley)J Subject: Re: Adding LF to CR 's when monitoring  serial port  in a Decterm= Message-ID: <7041fc41.0412030012.619e22a1@posting.google.com>   b Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com> wrote in message news:<41AF3872.3765C95D@hp.com>... > Phil Pulley wrote: > > J > > I am trying to view a text stream received on a serial port by using aA > > Decterm. I am using 'set host/dte' which seems to work but... I > > The received text lines are delimited by CR's only so, when displayed I > > in the Decterm, all characters appear on one line, with each received  > > line overwriting the next.J > > What I obviously need to do is force the Decterm to translate receivedI > > CR's to CR/LF's so as to get the required display - but how to do it? I > > I thought it should be simple but I have looked at all the options on C > > 'set host/dte' and 'set term' and can't find anything to do it.  > > 7 > > Any info/advice/ideas would be GREATLY appreciated.  > > 7 > > BTW I am using an Alpha XP900 running OpenVMS 7.2-1  > >  > > TIA  > >  > > Phil Pulley  > SET  >  >   TERMINAL >  >     /WRAP  >  >           /WRAP (default)  >           /NOWRAP  > G >        Controls whether a carriage return and line feed are generated ; >        when the value of the /WIDTH qualifier is reached.  >  >   ?? >  > Mike > --  G > --------------------------------------------------------------------- G > Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. A > Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* H > Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  D >   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"G > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ! > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  > Version: 3.1< > GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$8 > PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@! > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------     C Unfortunately using the '/wrap'option won't solve my problem as the B text stream I am trying to monitor has variable length lines, each delimited by a CR.A Thus, depending on the width setting, using '/wrap' either has no - effect at all or makes things more confusing!    Any help appreciated.   D BTW - whilst not wishing to extol the virtues of Mr Gates's products@ unduly, the 'hyperterminal' available in Windows NT and even theD Winterm in Windows 3.1 both have a simple tick box to append LF's to CR's on receive or transmit.       Phil Pulley    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 05:50:24 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> J Subject: Re: Adding LF to CR 's when monitoring  serial port  in a Decterm, Message-ID: <41B044C9.10CDA895@teksavvy.com>   Phil Pulley wrote:F > BTW - whilst not wishing to extol the virtues of Mr Gates's productsB > unduly, the 'hyperterminal' available in Windows NT and even theF > Winterm in Windows 3.1 both have a simple tick box to append LF's to > CR's on receive or transmit.  K Yep, you are right on this. But when was the last time DECTERM was actually 
 improved ?  K What you can do however is to use KERMIT instead of SET HOST/DTE and kermit G would definitely have the ability to add an lf upon receoption of a cr.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:33:35 +0000 - From: John Laird <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk> & Subject: Re: CLUSTER_SIZE ramification8 Message-ID: <rfj0r0holf6vr7fd88qlr5ev5qksp2ga5s@4ax.com>  F On 2 Dec 2004 19:36:33 -0800, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) wrote:  n >John Laird <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk> wrote in message news:<algsq0d3ustvsdq2ugg5d63oougmujbvcr@4ax.com>...L >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:39:49 +0000 (UTC), lewis@SPYDER.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. >> Lewis) wrote: >>   >[...] >  >> >Also, is it safe% >> >to do a SET FILE/TRUNC on INDEXF?  >>  K >> It may or may not work - INDEXF.SYS being a special file and permanently G >> open while a disk is mounted - but one would hope that if it damaged 0 >> anything, someone might have noticed by now ! > ? >It doesn't work because the file is open. You get an error --  C >-SYSTEM-W-ACCONFLICT -- when you try. So it's safe, but it doesn't 
 >work. ;-)  L I rather suspected that would be the case.  A dig around in the help for DFUJ didn't reveal any magic way to achieve this in there either.  A backup andE restore (with manual init) is probably the easiest route(*), but only J worthwhile if the lost space is significant.  The unused allocation is not doing any harm.   J (*)  Mount/foreign and a block-level patch utility is also an option.  ButL I'd carefully check the structure of indexf.sys itself in case it internallyL knows how big it is supposed to be, before zapping its header and running an? anal/disk/repair to recover the "incorrectly allocated" blocks.    --  , I'm a disfunctional husband of a BBS widow.    Mail john rather than nospam...    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 06:12:50 -0500 ' From: Rich Whalen <whalenr@process.com>  Subject: Re: Good sftp server?8 Message-ID: <uci0r0l23p9d0hrfdkhfnf8m18lgckcaio@4ax.com>  C On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:46:10 -0700, Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>  wrote:   No, a trailing coln won't work.   8 What you need is a leading slash. (I forgot about that).; Logical names are treated as being directly below the root.    try:   sftp> cd /trinc    ---------------------------- Richard Whalen Process Software  . >At 05:56 PM 12/2/2004, Russell E. Owen wrote:F >>Regarding support for logical names, I did not find this to work (at9 >>least not in the way I thought it should). For example:  >>sftp> cd trinc2 >>Couldn't canonicalise: No such file or directory >  >Try:  >  >sftp> cd trinc: >  >------ K >+-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ K >| Dan O'Reilly                  |  "There are 10 types of people in this | K >| Principal Engineer            |   world: those who understand binary   | K >| Process Software              |   and those who don't."                | K >| http://www.process.com        |                                        | K >+-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+  >    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 01:18:53 -0800 4 From: john.powers@airwidesolutions.com (John Powers); Subject: Re: How to make DCL ignore continuation lines too? = Message-ID: <6e87f23f.0412030118.3a65ab8d@posting.google.com>   E Well, it is certainly the simplest one yet, but it won't always work!   
 Try this.. $  $ delete := @nla0: $ delete /since=yesterday *.*;* O %DCL-W-IVQUAL, unrecognized qualifier - check validity, spelling, and placement  $   C Unfortunately '@' parses the input for qualifiers, so this is not a C reliable way.  This was exactly the problem that I hit that made me B look for my CONTINUE  technique. It may be a bit more complex, but0 it does reliably ignore the entire command line.   - John    o kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow) wrote in message news:<j6cte+2abXdU@eisner.encompasserve.org>... } > In article <41AE43B2.611FFAA4@encompasserve-or-this.org>, Graham Burley <burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org> writes:  > > Bob Kaplow wrote:  > >>  L > >> I've got a bunch of old DCL scripts that include a command that doesn'tO > >> exist on my current systems. In the past I've used the trick of defining a  > >> symbol for that command > >>   > >> $ delete :== "!"  > >>  N > >> to comment all of those lines out. But this particular command had ratherK > >> long syntax, and usually has continuation lines. Any suggestions for a M > >> similar trick to use that will make DCL ignore the continuation liens as 
 > >> well? > >  > > $ delete :== @nla0:  > 2 > Well, that's the simplest one yet, and it works! > 3 > 	Bob Kaplow	NAR # 18L	TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" ( > 		>>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<M > Kaplow Klips & Baffle:	http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf N >     www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/    www.nira-rocketry.org    www.nar.org > P > ... One nation under survielence, divisive, with liberty and justice for none.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 08:14:05 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com ; Subject: Re: How to make DCL ignore continuation lines too? - Message-ID: <873byo2q7m.fsf@prep.synonet.com>    norm.raphael@metso.com writes:   ...    >> > $ delete :== @nla0:  3 >> Well, that's the simplest one yet, and it works!   D > Do "@nla0:" online and it does not appear on the command line when- > you hit up-arrow.  What is (not) happening?   G Because it falls between the cracks of the terminal drive 1 line buffer G and DCLs. The tt driver hands it to dcl, and dcl flushes it when it get  EOF on the command file.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:51:52 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 6 Subject: Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX, Message-ID: <UPSdnQrV46Azxy3cRVn-og@igs.net>   Mark Hittinger wrote: A > I guess its time for the distributed lock manager to show up in  > Windows/XPU. >  > Later  >  > Mark Hittinger
 > bugs@pu.net     I Of course it will.....it'll be the last 'donation' carly(tm) will make to K Microsoft before decalring VMS EOL. At that point VMS will have 'functional H parity' with VMS in her eyes and hence she'll have no reason to continue funding VMS.   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 07:55:08 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 6 Subject: Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX3 Message-ID: <JMw2XuVLpdfB@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <BZydnS6vzcnCRzLcRVn_vA@comcast.com>, bugs@pu.net (Mark Hittinger) writes:   N > I guess its time for the distributed lock manager to show up in Windows/XPU.  E    You can already buy Veritas for Windows clients.  They call it the     global lock manager.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:03:23 -0500* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>6 Subject: Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX= Message-ID: <D8GdnR6pC5P9AS3cRVn-uw@metrocastcablevision.com>   : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message& news:41AFE5EE.4DA6A8A7@teksavvy.com... > Ken Randell wrote:I > > How'z about the number of people affected, what $$$ are involved here  (like L > > what is HP really saving) and what was the thinking behind this decision toI > > lay off staff, alienate customers, change horses-in-mid-stream, etc.?  > K > *IF* HP has realised that very few Tru64 Alpha customers were going to go  toI > that IA64 thing running HP-UX in reverse endian mode and that they were  lostK > customers no matter what, then there is little point in spending money to  help4 > just a couple migrate to HP-UX on that IA64 thing.  L Except for the minor issue that they committed to do precisely that, with noE mention that said 'commitment' was conditional on fulfilling it being  convenient for *them*.  H Of course, they may have felt that that went without saying, given theirK history.  But clearly some of the faithful here haven't quite realized that & that's the way they operate, even yet.   - bill   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:04:57 -0500* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>6 Subject: Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX= Message-ID: <WP2dneXp1o4jAS3cRVn-pw@metrocastcablevision.com>   . "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message& news:UPSdnQrV46Azxy3cRVn-og@igs.net... > Mark Hittinger wrote: C > > I guess its time for the distributed lock manager to show up in  > > Windows/XPU. > > 	 > > Later  > >  > > Mark Hittinger > > bugs@pu.net  >  > K > Of course it will.....it'll be the last 'donation' carly(tm) will make to $ > Microsoft before decalring VMS EOL  I Unlikely:  Microsoft (at least last I knew) still just doesn't believe in K shared-storage clustering, hence has little need for a DLM.  And, as noted, H anyone who wants such a system can just slap Veritas's product on top of Microsoft's.   - bill   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:07:37 -0500* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>6 Subject: Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX= Message-ID: <-cKdnTzoNuDDAC3cRVn-vQ@metrocastcablevision.com>   8 "leslie" <LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote in message. news:Ewhrd.64359$g21.61196@fe1.texas.rr.com.... > This paragraph is from the attached article: > I >   "In other news, we hear that VMS development will soon suffer a spate E >    of outsourcing at HP, with several staffers ceding their jobs to 4 >    people working outside the corporate umbrella." >  > . >    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19973. >    HP expected to drop Trucluster from HP-UX  I Both speculations certainly fit well with HP's manifest reluctance to own H any technology that it can possibly buy instead, even if not at anything like equivalent quality.   - bill   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 09:27:21 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ? Subject: HP Layoffs in New Hampshire the week ending 3-Dec-2004 3 Message-ID: <UvdcPobJicLL@eisner.encompasserve.org>   K > NASHUA, N.H. -- Hewlett-Packard Co. has laid off workers in New Hampshire  > but will not say how many. > F > A company spokeswoman said Thursday only that "there were work force, > actions taken in New Hampshire this week."  _ http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2004/12/03/new_hampshire_news_in_brief/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:55:20 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> C Subject: Re: HP Layoffs in New Hampshire the week ending 3-Dec-2004 , Message-ID: <LsGdnSuhs6z0ES3cRVn-gQ@igs.net>   Larry Kilgallen wrote:B >> NASHUA, N.H. -- Hewlett-Packard Co. has laid off workers in New' >> Hampshire but will not say how many.  >>G >> A company spokeswoman said Thursday only that "there were work force - >> actions taken in New Hampshire this week."  >  > L http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2004/12/03/new_hamps hire_news_in_brief/     K "HP announced today that effective immediately, Hewlett-Packard Development K Company, L.P. has become a wholly-owned subsidiary of Hewlett Packard Uttar K Pradesh Limited.  All U.S. based employees will have their paychecks issued E in Bangalore, India and they will be mailed via regular surface mail. K Payments will be made in rupees and employees will be responsible for their G own foreign-exchange conversions into US pesos. These actions are being J taken to ensure that this year's bonus payments for carly(tm) can be fully funded."   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 08:15:21 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> C Subject: Re: HP Layoffs in New Hampshire the week ending 3-Dec-2004 ( Message-ID: <opsifwrvwuzgicya@hyrrokkin>  G On 3 Dec 2004 09:27:21 -0600, Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net>    wrote:  D >> NASHUA, N.H. -- Hewlett-Packard Co. has laid off workers in New   >> Hampshire >> but will not say how many.  >>G >> A company spokeswoman said Thursday only that "there were work force - >> actions taken in New Hampshire this week."  > a > http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2004/12/03/new_hampshire_news_in_brief/     H Do you think it goes beyond the Tru64 folks related to the Veritas deal?   --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 11:49:13 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) C Subject: Re: HP Layoffs in New Hampshire the week ending 3-Dec-2004 3 Message-ID: <4llgopXvioV5@eisner.encompasserve.org>   N In article <opsifwrvwuzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:I > On 3 Dec 2004 09:27:21 -0600, Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net>    > wrote: > E >>> NASHUA, N.H. -- Hewlett-Packard Co. has laid off workers in New   
 >>> Hampshire  >>> but will not say how many. >>> H >>> A company spokeswoman said Thursday only that "there were work force. >>> actions taken in New Hampshire this week." >>b >> http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2004/12/03/new_hampshire_news_in_brief/ >  > J > Do you think it goes beyond the Tru64 folks related to the Veritas deal?   I have no other information.  @ I have no expertise in speculation. I hope to distinguish myself8 from large numbers of posters here by admitting that :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 19:24:27 +1100 4 From: Paddy O'Brien <paddy.o'brien@transgrid.com.au>* Subject: Re: Hp to use Veritas File system/ Message-ID: <41B022BB.3080102@transgrid.com.au>    Lee Witten wrote:   ! A nice read, snipped for brevity.   H With this loose terminology of "clusters", it would be useful if one of F the pro (well not averse to) VMS mags would write an article defining & what "cluster" means to various OS'es.   Regards, Paddy        G ***********************************************************************   C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged > and confidential information intended only for the use of the B addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise B the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, 7 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.   A If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid  A immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the  = individual sender except where the sender expressly and with  C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses > virus-scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses contained in any attachment.  < Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now$ firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"  G ***********************************************************************    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 07:49:05 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) * Subject: Re: Hp to use Veritas File system3 Message-ID: <Wcm0fpsDI$D4@eisner.encompasserve.org>   f In article <41B022BB.3080102@transgrid.com.au>, Paddy O'Brien <paddy.o'brien@transgrid.com.au> writes: >  >  > Lee Witten wrote:  > # > A nice read, snipped for brevity.  > J > With this loose terminology of "clusters", it would be useful if one of H > the pro (well not averse to) VMS mags would write an article defining ( > what "cluster" means to various OS'es.  @ The VMS Ambassador to Florida :-) has given an excellent talk on+ this subject for the last two VMS Symposia.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 07:51:22 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) * Subject: Re: Hp to use Veritas File system3 Message-ID: <7AWIUVsLTRpK@eisner.encompasserve.org>   R In article <h4-dnbnpZpeuHzLcRVn-3A@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: > J > HP-UX users probably would have found migrating to Tru64 easier and more	 > stable.   C    Having used and managed both, I very much agree.  There goes DEC     marketing again.   A    As a matter of fact, I'd have considered soving the TruCluster @    problem by basing HP-UX 12.0 on Tru64 with the SVID interface?    installed, then porting all the HP specific goodies onto it.   ?    I suppose somebody would have noticed the endian difference?    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:25:13 -0500* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>* Subject: Re: Hp to use Veritas File system= Message-ID: <D6qdnWN83s4cPC3cRVn-jw@metrocastcablevision.com>   H "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:GjRIyn6F+I16@eisner.encompasserve.org... 7 > In article <41AF4CF2.A4DFBD35@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei & <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > > Mark Schafer wrote:  > > J > > Was it a case of problems with porting of TruCluster to HP-UX, or justK > > policital stuff of HP prefering to adopt someone else's product instead  of% > > having an integrated clustering ?  > I >    The attempt to port TruCluster to HP-UX must have been a royal PITA.   H No sh!t, Sherlock.  And this was clear as day to anyone with even half a clue 3 years ago.   L But that didn't stop HP from 'committing' to do it, you'll notice.  And on aK rather aggressive development schedule, IIRC - and while that schedule went L by the boards fairly early on, they didn't take that opportunity to announceF that the entire project was smoke and mirrors, even though the VeritasG option has been available for quite a while now and HP-UX has enjoyed a 3 close relationship with Veritas for a decade or so.   I So it's just a *bit* difficult to imagine that the entire decision to axe F the Tru64 migration occurred only recently:  it more reminds me of theK 2-year process through which Curly and Smilin' Shane led up to axing Alpha, J while earnestly proclaiming its future right up until the last working day before that was announced.   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 08:52:23 -0500  From: M4tt <free@net.hu> Subject: Re: Is Sue OK ?7 Message-ID: <sc_rd.8629$p95.837540@weber.videotron.net>    Nomen Nescio wrote:   ( > JF Mezei <jfmezei@teksavvy.com> wrote: >  > , >>We haven't heard from Sue in a long while. >>
 >>Is she OK ?  >  > 4 > Is she another one of your multiple personalities? >     ! Such a troll, get a life funboi !    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:46:58 GMT ; From: Charlie McCutcheon <charlie.mccutcheonspam@nothp.com>  Subject: Re: Is Sue OK ?) Message-ID: <41B08987.6D97F813@nothp.com>   , >>We haven't heard from Sue in a long while. >>
 >>Is she OK ?  > 3 >Is she another one of your multiple personalities?   : She's a real live person working at HP in VMS engineering.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 16:32:06 GMT F From: "Gregory Morrow" <gregorymorrowLUCKBEALADYTONIGHT@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Is Sue OK ?A Message-ID: <ay0sd.2630$Va5.345@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>    Nomen Nescio wrote:   ( > JF Mezei <jfmezei@teksavvy.com> wrote: > - > >We haven't heard from Sue in a long while.  > >  > >Is she OK ? > 4 > Is she another one of your multiple personalities?    ' Oh has JF elected for a sex change now?   1 This opens up a whole new world of possibilities!    --   Best Greg   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 08:08:13 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com  Subject: Re: News Server- Message-ID: <877jo02qhe.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   - "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes:   E > I think this is just another perfect example of targeting the wrong F > OS/HW for an application, not because VMS and associated HW can't doE > it, but because news feeds are typically resource pigs and it would A > be cost prohibitive solution if you are running any significant D > number of public news groups concurrently where as a powerful, butB > cheap, Linux system can handle this without missing a beat, RAID > disks and all...  D You jest! A linux/unix news server has a half life of about 6 monthsF before the braindeath and rot become unbearable. So then there is `The9 great rebuild', and natch a re-numbering of news items :(   E > This alone is probably why a commerical news feed never took off in  > the VMS market...   D No, it is because the main users of news servers where dumping vaxesC and vms as fast as they could in most cases, and DEC/cumpuke/hp did  nothing to stop the rot.  F When Sun and billyboy are bashing the door down to deal, and hp offers5 you a proliant, even a dim bulb can see that writing.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 07:53:27 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: News Server3 Message-ID: <1N9iAEpB5LOv@eisner.encompasserve.org>   K In article <877jo02qhe.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, prep@prep.synonet.com writes: / > "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes:  > F >> I think this is just another perfect example of targeting the wrongG >> OS/HW for an application, not because VMS and associated HW can't do F >> it, but because news feeds are typically resource pigs and it wouldB >> be cost prohibitive solution if you are running any significantE >> number of public news groups concurrently where as a powerful, but C >> cheap, Linux system can handle this without missing a beat, RAID  >> disks and all...  > F > You jest! A linux/unix news server has a half life of about 6 monthsH > before the braindeath and rot become unbearable. So then there is `The; > great rebuild', and natch a re-numbering of news items :(  > F >> This alone is probably why a commerical news feed never took off in >> the VMS market... > F > No, it is because the main users of news servers where dumping vaxesE > and vms as fast as they could in most cases, and DEC/cumpuke/hp did  > nothing to stop the rot.  A Conspiracy theories certainly keep comp.os.vms full each day, but > exactly where is the market for news servers ?  In idle time I? have often thought about the technical details of such a beast, ? including the relation to forthcoming technical developments in A VMS.  But I just have not been able to see any cost justification < for my company (and thus any other) to offer such a product.  @ Enlighten us all regarding how many customers would pay how muchA for a top-notch news server.  Start with how much they are paying . for the same thing on other operating systems.   ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:37:33 +0000 (UTC)6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: News Server1 Message-ID: <newscache$6vm58i$45t1$1@news.sil.at>   c In article <1N9iAEpB5LOv@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: A >Enlighten us all regarding how many customers would pay how much B >for a top-notch news server.  Start with how much they are paying/ >for the same thing on other operating systems.   F Iff ISPs do get serious about newsservers there might be a chance that' some of them consider VMS. But I doubt.   L You may know, I use two different ISP on two locations. One has a newsserverI where there a about 100 postings in comp.os.vms for the last 6 months (!) K and the other has a newsserver (not its own, but its partners) where in the K last month I had a success rate of about 1% to get a successfull connection F ("400 too many users" or "412 operation failed" or a simple disconnectK accessing an article). Iff I had a better contract, I would have had a case I against the provider, but I have a standard contract without SLA for NEWS K and other ISPs are most likely not better. So things won't change for NNTP.  --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 12:13:00 EST ) From: cook@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook)  Subject: Re: News Server! Message-ID: <0ba7WjwflsJ6@wvnvms>   K In article <877jo02qhe.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, prep@prep.synonet.com writes: / > "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes:  > F >> I think this is just another perfect example of targeting the wrongG >> OS/HW for an application, not because VMS and associated HW can't do F >> it, but because news feeds are typically resource pigs and it wouldB >> be cost prohibitive solution if you are running any significantE >> number of public news groups concurrently where as a powerful, but C >> cheap, Linux system can handle this without missing a beat, RAID  >> disks and all...  > F > You jest! A linux/unix news server has a half life of about 6 monthsH > before the braindeath and rot become unbearable. So then there is `The; > great rebuild', and natch a re-numbering of news items :(   G With DNEWS on VMS we have never had any type of rebuild or news related D downtime in the five or so years we have used it.  The DNEWS processC has run non-stop for over 500 days, and then the only reason for it $ not running longer was VMS upgrades.  F >> This alone is probably why a commerical news feed never took off in >> the VMS market... > F > No, it is because the main users of news servers where dumping vaxesE > and vms as fast as they could in most cases, and DEC/cumpuke/hp did  > nothing to stop the rot.  C In my small state there were at one time at least three educational D institutions running news servers on VMS.  At least two of them were@ willing to pay for DNEWS software support.  Unfortunately, givenD zero marketing from HP, my own organization is seriously consideringA a three year plan to eliminate VMS statewide.  Why?  Because they D think it is on its deathbed (if not already dead) at HP.  ManagementE was taken totally by surprise two years ago when I had to inform them C that, yes, there were still future releases of VMS for VAX planned. ? Actually I suspect they thought I was lieing to them, and I can > understand why considering how DEC/xxxxxx/hp have treated VMS.     George Cook 	 WVNET        ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 13:23:23 GMT 7 From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il (Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)) @ Subject: Reinstalling DECwindows after losing it during upgrade?$ Message-ID: <2004Dec3.132323@hujicc>   Hello,  G   I did today an upgrade from VMS-7.3-1 to 7.3-2; during that upgrade I L probably answered one of the questions wrong (sorry - don't remember exactlyM which) and lost DECwindows. Any idea how can I re-install DECwindows when the  system is running?  5 I recall there was DECW$TAILOR but I can't find it...   3                                   Thanks! __Yehavi:    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:38:07 -05003- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>tD Subject: Re: Reinstalling DECwindows after losing it during upgrade?, Message-ID: <41B07A4B.73D802F3@teksavvy.com>  " "Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)" wrote:7 > I recall there was DECW$TAILOR but I can't find it...   U DECW$TAILOR is in SYS$UPDATE. This deals with only basic root of DECwidnows software.e  I You then need to install the separate product, I believe DWMOTIF which ist considered a layered product.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:47:34 -0500U- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>U' Subject: SMTP: hosting multiple domainse, Message-ID: <41B07C81.B63569C5@teksavvy.com>  L Lets say that MX extries  chocolate.com and  pastry.org both point to my VMS, machine with TCPIP Services 5.3 (VAX) on it.  J What must I do so that the SMTP software will receive and properly process@ emails destined for either hosts and deliver it to local users ?   eg:i  = jdoe@chocolate.com gets delivered on my machine to user jdoe.O: jdoe@pastry.org gets delivered on my machine to user jdoe.  N What commands in TCPIP> of config lines in the smtp config files must I add to< ensure that the SMTP software sees those as local messages ?  L Does the symbiont just do an MX transation of pastry.org, finds out that theH responsible server has an IP address which matches the IP address of the1 server and thus knows to deliver it via VMSmail ?i   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:49:28 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> J Subject: Re: Stalker Announces Beta Release of CommuniGate Pro for OpenVMS, Message-ID: <UPSdnQvV46Awxy3cRVn-og@igs.net>   David J Dachtera wrote:  > Kenneth Farmer wrote:L >>F >> Stalker Software has just announced the release of the OpenVMS betaG >> for their CommuniGate Pro Integrated Communications server. The Beta > >> period will run through to January 15, 2005. The product isA >> available for OpenVMS on Alpha, and IA64 (Itanium2) platforms.l >>< >> http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=04/12/02/3371441 >sC > Hhmmm... Could this be the much sought-after Micro$lop EggsChangeo > equivalent for VMS???!!!    H Don't knock it. If it isn't from Microsoft, it has a high probability of being a decent product.l   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:41:49 GMTi+ From: LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (leslie)s+ Subject: VMS Jobs Being Offshored to India? 5 Message-ID: <1NUrd.100552$jq5.16668@fe2.texas.rr.com>w  ,    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20021%    HP Itanic ship approaching iceberge  %   "HP Itanic ship approaching icebergh;    While the New HP's VMS staff train outsourced successorse  /    By Eva Glass: Friday 03 December 2004, 07:18e  I    RELIABLE SOURCES tell the INQ that a number of US staff working on thel3    VMS operating system are set to lose their jobs.'  G    The jobs will be outsourced to India, and those likely to fall undera>    the axe are currently training their outsourced successors.  :    The jobs are likely to disappear in early January next.  C    This news comes on the back of layoffs in the Tru64 group, and a 7    u-turn in HP's plans for its HP-UX operating system.r  E    Sources tell the INQ that Kent Ferson, who we understand is now at G    EMC, was not involved in what was described inside HP as the "latest     unpleasantnesses".-  I    According to the same sources, HP has also made changes to its ItaniumlG    direction. One insider said: "Those in the Tru64 group who never got G    around to leaving the leaking ship Alpha are rather glad they didn't I    jump to the new ship Itanic. It hit a bigger iceberg yesterday than wef    expected". "     --Jerry Leslie9   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email-   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 05:35:58 -0500S- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>V/ Subject: Re: VMS Jobs Being Offshored to India?-, Message-ID: <41B04168.D26D2633@teksavvy.com>  
 leslie wrote:t' >   "HP Itanic ship approaching icebergy= >    While the New HP's VMS staff train outsourced successorsl  C If VMS survives all that, and comes out on the 64 bit 8086 or POwersF architectures, no matter how weak a market share it will have, it willN probably be cause for a large celebration that VMS is a survivor. What doesn'tN kill you makes you stronger, and perhaps with what is leftt of VMS, as soon as= it would be unleashed, it might in fact flourish and succeed.k  = So, how soon can we expect indian fonts on DECwindows ???????P  M My guess would be that VAX-VMS is to be declared mature at 8.2, and then only I supported by India. ALL-In-1 support was also transfered to India when HP 5 decided to make it "mature" and not port it to India.g     Re: the coming iceberg.a  L *IF* HP is in fact really considering dumping IA64, they would probably haveI told the VMS folks to put the shipping of 8.2 on hold until a decision isNM made. If no commercial use of VMS on IA64 has begun, then there is no need toL support the thing for 5 years.    K So far, all the rumours that came out this week have turned out to be true.a   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 10:58:56 GMTE& From: Israel T <rambam@bigpond.net.au>/ Subject: Re: VMS Jobs Being Offshored to India? * Message-ID: <87y8gf8x70.fsf@kafka.homenet>  / JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:L  ? > So, how soon can we expect indian fonts on DECwindows ???????i   Soon I hope., Otherwise the competition will be far ahead.  H Red Hat are releasing Linux localised to Hindi, Malayalam, Tamil, TeluguL Bengali, Punjabi and Gujarati. These are among the major languages in India.  0 and some older news from Red Hat (october 2004):J "The fonts named Lohit which means Red in Sanskrit, are available in five I Indian languages including Hindi, Bengali, Gujarati, Punjabi and Tamil. "T   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:44:21 GMTe' From: "Zibri" <zibri@NO.libero.SPAM.it> % Subject: What happened to SIMH ?!?!?!t3 Message-ID: <V4_rd.250082$b5.12185063@news3.tin.it>o   What happened to simh ?!?!?   9 I can't reach http://simh.trailing-edge.com  from a week.M  H I am searching for win32 binaries of SIMH V3.3-2 (or however the latest  version)  & Does anybody know something about it ?  d   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:55:39 GMTe% From: Roger Ivie <rivie@ridgenet.net>a) Subject: Re: What happened to SIMH ?!?!?!,3 Message-ID: <slrncr0vl9.8b9.rivie@Stench.no.domain>n  5 On 2004-12-03, Zibri <zibri@NO.libero.SPAM.it> wrote:  > What happened to simh ?!?!?l >t; > I can't reach http://simh.trailing-edge.com  from a week.t >tJ > I am searching for win32 binaries of SIMH V3.3-2 (or however the latest 
 > version) >z( > Does anybody know something about it ?  G Yeah. You might try poking about in alt.sys.pdp-10, alt.sys.pdp-11, andf> similar groups; I recall seeing a message, but didn't pay much
 attention.  H Basically, the machine got knocked out by a large storm and they haven't recovered yet. -- r
 Roger Ivie rivie@ridgenet.net http://anachronda.webhop.org/i -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----a
 Version: 3.12uH GCS/P d- s:+++ a+ C++ UB--(++++) !P L- !E W++ N++ o-- K w O- M+ V+++ PS+? PE++ Y+ PGP t+ 5+ X-- R tv++ b++ DI+++ D+ G e++ h--- r+++ z+++ a ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------a   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 03:03:42 -0800/3 From: "C.W.Holeman II" <cwhii_googlespam@yahoo.com>n4 Subject: What is the graphical file browser for VMS?0 Message-ID: <10r0i7eblpgl985@corp.supernews.com>  + What is the graphical file browser for VMS?o   -- e C.W.Holeman II) cwh5ii@Julian5Locals.com remove the fives    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 12:53:11 +0100sK From: pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.68.40)-8 Subject: Re: What is the graphical file browser for VMS?! Message-ID: <BZ$JDUOesOjr@sinead>l  f In article <10r0i7eblpgl985@corp.supernews.com>, "C.W.Holeman II" <cwhii_googlespam@yahoo.com> writes:- > What is the graphical file browser for VMS?  >   B Fileview under classical DECW/Motif (you also have one under CDE).   Patrick  --O =============================================================================== N pmoreau@ath.cena.fr  (CENA)      ______      ___   _          (Patrick MOREAU)4 moreau_p@decus.fr (DECUS)       / /   /     / /|  /|J CENA/Athis-Mons FRANCE         / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __  N BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__| |  |N 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  | |__|N http://www.ath.cena.fr/~pmoreau/            http://www.multimania.com/pmoreau/O ===============================================================================i   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 07:47:12 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 8 Subject: Re: What is the graphical file browser for VMS?3 Message-ID: <XGcVoARP97kG@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  o In article <BZ$JDUOesOjr@sinead>, pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.68.40) writes:nh > In article <10r0i7eblpgl985@corp.supernews.com>, "C.W.Holeman II" <cwhii_googlespam@yahoo.com> writes:. >> What is the graphical file browser for VMS? >> > > D > Fileview under classical DECW/Motif (you also have one under CDE).  ' But due to the design of ODS-2/5 it is:s   	Much slower than a Macintosh.  A 	Much less user-friendly than a Macintosh (no Type/Creator bytes,>@ 	no remembering position on the desktop, files are in the window? 	rather than on the desktop, no unified view of multiple disks.l   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2004 08:05:14 -0600e; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 8 Subject: Re: What is the graphical file browser for VMS?3 Message-ID: <UD9oYZ+g03bU@eisner.encompasserve.org>   f In article <10r0i7eblpgl985@corp.supernews.com>, "C.W.Holeman II" <cwhii_googlespam@yahoo.com> writes:- > What is the graphical file browser for VMS?w >   H    That really depends on what you mean by "graphical file browser".  Of    the tools I used, that fits:i         FileView (vue$master)e'       dtfile (or whatever CDE calls it)-       xv       ghostscript0       ghostviewr
       mozillay       netscape
       xdvi   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:50:39 -0500 From: norm.raphael@metso.com@ Subject: Re: [OT] How to make DCL ignore continuation lines too?Q Message-ID: <OFDE228134.80B83911-ON85256F5F.00548FF9-85256F5F.0057110E@metso.com>s  6 prep@prep.synonet.com wrote on 12/02/2004 07:14:05 PM:    > norm.raphael@metso.com writes: >t > ...b >e > >> > $ delete :== @nla0: >r5 > >> Well, that's the simplest one yet, and it works!  >,F > > Do "@nla0:" online and it does not appear on the command line when/ > > you hit up-arrow.  What is (not) happening?n >dI > Because it falls between the cracks of the terminal drive 1 line buffer I > and DCLs. The tt driver hands it to dcl, and dcl flushes it when it get, > EOF on the command file. >   < Yet it makes it into the command recall buffer, so if you do $ @NLA0:
 $ RECALL @G you get it back on the command line.  "[B]etween the cracks..." indeed.c   > --> > Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,9 > +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.SB >                                              West Australia 6076, > comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot0 > Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H > EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:42:47 +0000 (UTC)6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER). Subject: [TCPIP V5.4 ECO 4] SSH and intrusions1 Message-ID: <newscache$w3n58i$45t1$1@news.sil.at>   = I just found a guy from Vancouver testing my SSH and noticed:o   $ sh inrA Intrusion       Type       Count        Expiration         SourceHA ---------       ----       -----        ----------         ------tP    NETWORK      SUSPECT      55    3-DEC-2004 17:40:51.25  SSH_PASSWORD:86.10.23  2.64.TRANSEDGE.COM::SSH_40E80A56  B Isn't a count of 55 supposed to be enough for being an INTRUDER ? @ What is the limit here ? Is there one, and if not then why not ?  L IIRC, Telnet or CTERM have a limit of 6 guesses before becoming an INTRUDER.   -- r Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERe% Network and OpenVMS system specialistt E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:10:14 +000070 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>2 Subject: Re: [TCPIP V5.4 ECO 4] SSH and intrusions4 Message-ID: <coq6lo$4fs$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:  ? > I just found a guy from Vancouver testing my SSH and noticed:i > 	 > $ sh intC > Intrusion       Type       Count        Expiration         SourcewC > ---------       ----       -----        ----------         ------aR >    NETWORK      SUSPECT      55    3-DEC-2004 17:40:51.25  SSH_PASSWORD:86.10.23" > 2.64.TRANSEDGE.COM::SSH_40E80A56 > D > Isn't a count of 55 supposed to be enough for being an INTRUDER ? B > What is the limit here ? Is there one, and if not then why not ? > N > IIRC, Telnet or CTERM have a limit of 6 guesses before becoming an INTRUDER. >   E Usually - but not if he's pacing himself to the correct attempt rate  B (less than 5 attempts in 5 minutes on a default system) - if he's G willing to try just under once per minute, he can keep trying forever, - afaik.   Chris-   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:21:32 GMTr( From: Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com>& Subject: Re: [TCPIP V5.4] ECO 4 is out, Message-ID: <M82sd.39520$VL6.19877@clgrps13>  0 Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote::H > In article <newscache$h5c38i$ak41$1@news.sil.at>, peter@langstoeger.at& > (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes:   3 > Has anyone successfully installed these ECOs yet?e  @ Yep, seems to have gone well on my AS1000A 4/233 VMS 7.3 system.I <grumble>If I could ever figure out why I can never burn VMS 7.3.2 image f@ successfully, I could also report a successful update to the OS  itself.</grumble>d   Alderl   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.671 ************************yone who wants such a system can just slap Veritas's product on top of Microsoft's.   - bill   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:07:37 -0500* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>6 Subject: Re: HP Expected to Drop Trucluster from HP-UX= Message-ID: <-cKdnTzoNuDDAC3cRVn-vQ@metrocastcablevision.com>   8 "leslie" <LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote in m-- PATCH_MAILSHR_ON_VMS_N_AXP_15_    Version:      5-AUG-1994:;    Description:  VMS Mail "@" patch for OpenVMS AXP V1.5-H1-7    Author:       Claude Barbe <barbe@eps.sinet.slb.com>-    Architecture: AXP    # of parts:   -    Language:     DCL, C P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PATCH_MAILSHR_ON_VMS_N_AXP_1_5    Version:      14-JAN-19948    Description:  VMS Mail "@" patch for OpenVMS AXP V1.57    Author:       Claude Barbe <barbe@eps.sinet.slb.com>-    Architecture: AXP    # of parts:   -    Language:     DCL, C P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PATCH_MAILSHR_ON_VMS_N_AXP_61m    Version:      24-JUN-19946    Description:  VMS Mail @ patch for OpenVMS AXP V6.17    Author:       Claude Barbe <barbe@eps.sinet.slb.com>-    Architecture: AXP    # of parts:   -    Language:     DCL, C9P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PBM_TEX     Version:      b8    Description:  Convert Portable Bitmap to TeX .PK font    Author:       -    Architecture: VAX    # of parts:   -    Language:     CP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PCAL"    Version:      V4.5, 17-NOV-1994.    Description:  PostScript calendar generatorF    Author:       Various, Rick Dyson <dyson@sunfish.Physics.UIowa.Edu>    Architecture: VAX,AXP    # of parts:   -    Language:     CP ------------------------------------------------------------------