1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 10 Dec 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 684       Contents: Documentation for DCL  Re: Documentation for DCL  DS10L for 250 Bucks! Re: DS10L for 250 Bucks!2 Re: finding out what is installed on a system disk2 Re: finding out what is installed on a system disk1 Re: FTP program connect to VMS client under linux 1 Re: FTP program connect to VMS client under linux  Re: Hp Divorce Re: Hp Divorce/ HP Pressured to Sell PC Business After IBM Deal P HP: "We've made Linux one of our three key operating systems: Windows, Unix and ? RE: IBM smells the coffee - HP refuses to market profitable VMS ? Re: IBM smells the coffee - HP refuses to market profitable VMS ( Re: J F on...what else...Americans again Re: Logical Translation + Re: Macintosh Installers (was: Java on VMS)  Re: News Server 0 Re: NFS mount of ODS-5 vs traditional parse type Re: OpenVMS Multimedia0 Re: OT: Chinese now 3rd biggest PC manufacturers7 Palmisano: PC Biz Didn't Fit into IBM's On-Demand Model   PC/PCI DRQ3B card for Windows XP Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file  Re: TK50 cartridge resurrection ( VMS support for the Adaptec 2940W/2940UW
 Re: VMS V1  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 15:34:01 -0800 ' From: Arthur Schwarz <aschwarz@acm.org>  Subject: Documentation for DCL4 Message-ID: <Kh5ud.9$195.2@dfw-service2.ext.ray.com>  ) Anyone know how to get DCL documentation?    art    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 15:47:41 -0800  From: Z <z@no.spam> " Subject: Re: Documentation for DCL( Message-ID: <Nu5ud.239$nj1.119@fe07.lga>   Arthur Schwarz wrote: + > Anyone know how to get DCL documentation?   - http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/os73_index.html   
 Specifically:   P http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/documentation/pdf/OVMS_73_dcldict_ref1.PDF   	and  P http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/documentation/pdf/OVMS_73_dcldict_ref2.PDF   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 20:04:17 -0500% From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET>  Subject: DS10L for 250 Bucks! 0 Message-ID: <10rht3jpgcb15e6@news.supernews.com>   Only $250 while stocks last # delivery within 14 days from order.  FOB Leeds UK (proximity)     --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 21:23:35 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>! Subject: Re: DS10L for 250 Bucks! + Message-ID: <41B916B7.FB0D85DD@comcast.net>    DAVID TURNER wrote:  >  > Only $250 while stocks last % > delivery within 14 days from order.  > FOB Leeds UK (proximity)  # Are these for sale to US customers?    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 20:19:22 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>; Subject: Re: finding out what is installed on a system disk + Message-ID: <41B907AA.12A76635@comcast.net>    Mike Rechtman wrote: > [snap]F > Do you have a CD labeled "software tools" that came with the OpenVMS
 > distrib?H > IIRC theres something called "DASC" - of course my memory could be way > off...  H Oh, yeah - I remember DASC. Didn't quite find everything unless the user= had accepted the default install destination for some things.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 20:23:44 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>; Subject: Re: finding out what is installed on a system disk + Message-ID: <41B908B0.D611741D@comcast.net>    Larry Kilgallen wrote: > b > In article <41B66E22.7F81FB1E@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes: > > Larry Kilgallen wrote: > / > >> You missed the part (above) where he said:  > >>N > >> >> I have only installed stuff via the menu from the layered-product CDs,8 > >> >> so there shouldn't be anything strange going on. > > I > > Actually, no I didn't. I thought it brash to assume that just because D > > software was installed using the menu on the CD that the install6 > > procedures and implementation were all consistent. > F > The last I heard, for a group to get their product onto the softwareE > distribution CDroms it had to use LMF and either VMSINSTAL or PCSI.   ? ...neither one of which imposes and limitations on installation ? destinations, although VMSINSTALl "recently" acquired a history 	 facility.   A Many products provided for an alternate installation destination. D Locating that to find an installed version can be rather a challenge* when the user does not accept the default.  > One other possibility, though again, not 100% reliable, is theF .RELEASE_NOTES files in the SYS$HELP path, since the release notes areG typically (but not always) named after the VMSINSTAL kit name (example:  BASIC013.RELEASE_NOTES).   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 15:38:21 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) : Subject: Re: FTP program connect to VMS client under linux3 Message-ID: <wK94D3aDeY0L@eisner.encompasserve.org>   T In article <8KqRo9HmCvPl@eisner.encompasserve.org>, briggs@encompasserve.org writes: > 8 > Neither of those will work on any standard ftp client. >   @    There is no standard for an ftp client, there is just the one    you are used to using.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 20:26:46 -0700: From: "Luc The Perverse" <sll_NOSPAM_zm@remove.cc.usu.edu>: Subject: Re: FTP program connect to VMS client under linux, Message-ID: <31sjbgF3gfalaU1@individual.net>  : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message& news:41B76046.D5E0485D@teksavvy.com...; > > You are not the first person to suggest plain text FTP.  > > G > > It will take some work figuring out to invoke it from my program (I  assumeL > > this will require a shell script, another thing I do not yet know how to do)  > E > You complained about Mozilla not working. OUT of curiosity, had you  expected? > to be able to script a GUI to do the file transfers for you ?   F LOL no.   But I was expecting to not have to boot back into windows to
 upload it.  H > On any unix machines with a TCPIP stack, you should be able to do "ftp	 hostname" H > You then get prompted for username/"password and should then be dumped intoK > that user's login directory. You can issue standard unix commands such as  "ls"I > to get file listings. And then you have commands such as put and get to  > transfer files.  > % > set type image  -> binary transfers " > set type ascii -> text transfers > J > The above 2 are important when transfering files to a different platform since K > different platforms store text files differently. When in ascii mode, FTP J > client and server use a common format to delimit text records, with each6 > converting to/from their platform dependant formats.   Ok thanks I will try this    -LTP   :)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 14:09:39 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: Hp Divorce ( Message-ID: <opsirg6ddbzgicya@hyrrokkin>  * On 9 Dec 2004 12:02:18 -0600, Bob Kaplow  * <kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD> wrote:  $ > Hmmm, how about a three way split:% > A printer company to be called H-P. # > A PC company to be called Compaq. $ > A server company to be called DEC.% > Set the Wayback machine for 1990...    What do you do with Tandem?    --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:14:17 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>  Subject: Re: Hp Divorce , Message-ID: <G-qdnRFAga2kUyXcRVn-sA@igs.net>   Tom Linden wrote: * > On 9 Dec 2004 12:02:18 -0600, Bob Kaplow, > <kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD> wrote: > % >> Hmmm, how about a three way split: & >> A printer company to be called H-P.$ >> A PC company to be called Compaq.% >> A server company to be called DEC. & >> Set the Wayback machine for 1990... >  > What do you do with Tandem?     $ Ask Jim Treybig if he wants it back?  $ or just run VMS on the same hardware   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 21:49:04 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 8 Subject: HP Pressured to Sell PC Business After IBM Deal, Message-ID: <3tWdnXze_pA9kyTcRVn-3w@igs.net>   Michael Clark wrote:; > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/08/hp_talks_divorce/  > G > "HP's board have discussed splitting up the company on three separate G > occasions, Carly Fiorina, CEO, revealed yesterday. She told a meeting C > of financial analysts: "The board looked at this analytically and H > dispassionately and in detail three separate times...and each time theC > board...came to the same, unanimous conclusion," Reuters reports.  > D > Fiorina made the disclosure in response to a question from MerrillC > Lynch analyst Steven Milunovich who has repeatedly called for the E > firm to be split up. HP's printer business deliver the lion's share E > of group profits. Plagued by uneven recent financial performance HP F > has been under pressure from investors for some time. Some observersC > also believe separating its consumer and business divisions would  > improve profitability. > F > Fiorina warned that such a process would incur "real costs" and takeD > years to achieve. She pointed out that HP's spin-off of Agilent inF > 1999, which raised $2bn was only finally completed three months ago.      L http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1208&e=10&u=/nm/20041209/tc _nm/tech_hp_pc_dc&sid=95573652   ....K "HP is now on the spot to show why their PC business is a strategic part of @ the company," said Martin Reynolds, analyst at Gartner Research.   ....  L "HP has been and continues to be committed to the PC market," HP spokeswoman" Tiffany Smith said in a statement.   ....  I Building scale has been Fiorina's guiding philosophy at HP since she took L over the helm of the company five years ago, a notion that drove HP's merger with Compaq Computer in 2002.     L That has enabled HP to increase its PC group revenue in fiscal 2004 to $24.6L billion from $14.7 billion two years earlier, but profitability remains slim* at 1 percent versus a loss in fiscal 2002.    G Still, Fiorina also revealed for the first time, at this week's analyst L meeting, that HP's board had rejected breaking up the company three separate times in the past.    J "HP has been doing a lot of things right by building it (the company) up,"G said Roger Kay, analyst at research firm IDC. "What you'll hear is that I they're *deeply* *committed* (to their PC business) up until the day that  they sell it off."   ...   L Sounds a lot like their commitment to Tru64 users and where they are heading	 with VMS.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:10:11 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> Y Subject: HP: "We've made Linux one of our three key operating systems: Windows, Unix and  , Message-ID: <rfSdnfy1Q9veUCXcRVn-rA@igs.net>  L http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&ncid=1209&e=3&u=/zd/200 41209/tc_zd/140615   ....E "When we look at . migrating to Linux, we see some workloads can take J advantage of Linux's value proposition, but some won't go over from Unix."E For example, some applications, such as bank processing, require many  processors.   K For such applications, Rovira sees a "tremendous need for Unix systems." He K noted that the same IDC study also sees Unix still having about $20 billion I of the server market by 2006. "A lot of people are sitting with Unix," he  said.   K For those users, HP is making sure that it meets their needs with the HP-UX J and Tru64 Unix Server and TruCluster technology. "While HP has end-of-lifeH plans for Tru64, customers will have plenty of time to migrate to HP-UX.K Tru64 won't go away until 2011, and even then we'll have deals for die-hard  Tru64 users," Rovira said.  G Regardless of whether customers want a Unix or Linux platform, however, L Rovira said, "HP is committed to delivering the best open-source solutions." .....    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 15:39:47 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) H Subject: RE: IBM smells the coffee - HP refuses to market profitable VMS3 Message-ID: <ymDMXp5r2Py8@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ~ In article <A2A28DB6D52E084783ACD6E6C6F5D7900274F96F@EMAILSERVER2.nemschoff.com>, Michael Clark <MClark@Nemschoff.com> writes: > F > Nothing is unhackable.  I run OpenBSD for gateways and dns, and they+ > do a very good job keeping the OS secure.   0    DEFCON 9 said VMS is.  So does my experience.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 18:36:11 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com H Subject: Re: IBM smells the coffee - HP refuses to market profitable VMSC Message-ID: <1102646171.005569.151580@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    second that ...    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:48:20 -05001 From: "A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com> 1 Subject: Re: J F on...what else...Americans again - Message-ID: <41b8e392$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net>   3 "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message  2 news:94b430a01b9aa336ada34d3c85f8fa26@dizum.com...+ > JF Mezei <jfmezei@vaxination.ca> trolled:  > , >>re: stories of strip searches in airports. >>F >>Look, you guys re-elected the very government that instituted those 
 >>measuresG >>in the first place. You have no right to complain about the measures   >>americans F >>requested. After all, you are scared shit of some terrorist and haveM >>repeatedly said on US TV that you are willing to undergo whatever measures   >>ans K >>searching is necessary to catch the terrorists. Your government is merely % >>doing what you are asking it to do.  > D > For someone who hates the US so much, you sure spend an inordinateE > amount of time watching US television.  And reading US papers.  And G > talking about the US.  And obsessing about the US.  And ranting about / > the US.  And trolling about the US on usenet.  > + > Have you considered electroshock therapy?  > @ > It's said to be most effective in extreme cases such as yours.    I Why don't you spend more time on the golf NG & less time here? Of course  $ they can't stand you over there....    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:57:59 -0800  From: Z <z@no.spam>   Subject: Re: Logical Translation' Message-ID: <YT3ud.222$Ue.203@fe07.lga>    Shankar wrote:H > I need to do this on C and hence any kernel hacks, macro code and user2 > created system services are out of the question.  8 There's no wildcard feature in sys$trnlnm() or getenv().   You _could_ do it with either    	system()    -or-  	lib$spawn()  " Not pretty, but not hacks, either.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 23:54:03 GMT  From: reb <natron@ntlworld.com> 4 Subject: Re: Macintosh Installers (was: Java on VMS)0 Message-ID: <opsirlxsy3aqvj2s@news.ntlworld.com>  G On 6 Dec 2004 07:53:02 -0600, Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net>    wrote:  8 > In article <opsikv3fkiaqvj2s@news.ntlworld.com>, reb   > <natron@ntlworld.com> writes:  > F >> There can be some interesting side effects: a well-known commercialC >> installer product that is sold on MacOS X cannot handle resource D >> forks for exactly this reason - it is now implemented in Java andB >> they wont add support for any non-standard file system featuresA >> (well, I suspect they would if they were MS Windows features).  > * > Please give the name of that installer !     InstallShield.     rb   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 04 17:28:04 EST ) From: cook@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook)  Subject: Re: News Server! Message-ID: <nKUbJNfVcJ$c@wvnvms>   L In article <41B797F7.8060406@triumf.ca>, Fred Bach <music@triumf.ca> writes:	 > George,  > C >    Good to see you're around and kicking!  (Keep up the good work  >    on Mosaic.) > G >    How do you compare DNEWS and VNEWS for reliability, functionality, F >    and user-friendliness?  Thanks.  (VNEWS is free and I compiled it
 >    myself.)   I I have never used VNEWS, but it appears to be a client whereas DNEWS is a I server.  I use ANUNEWS for a client which is why I keep an ANUNEWS server G running so I can access the news database directly instead of via NNTP.  It works well enough.      George Cook  WVNET    > George Cook wrote: > N >> In article <877jo02qhe.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, prep@prep.synonet.com writes: >>   > 
 >   [snip] >  >>  J >> With DNEWS on VMS we have never had any type of rebuild or news relatedG >> downtime in the five or so years we have used it.  The DNEWS process F >> has run non-stop for over 500 days, and then the only reason for it' >> not running longer was VMS upgrades.  >>   >>  G >>>>This alone is probably why a commerical news feed never took off in  >>>>the VMS market...  >>> G >>>No, it is because the main users of news servers where dumping vaxes F >>>and vms as fast as they could in most cases, and DEC/cumpuke/hp did >>>nothing to stop the rot.  >>   >>  F >> In my small state there were at one time at least three educationalG >> institutions running news servers on VMS.  At least two of them were C >> willing to pay for DNEWS software support.  Unfortunately, given  > ; >     We had myself and other local support for VNEWS here.  >    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 15:42:38 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 9 Subject: Re: NFS mount of ODS-5 vs traditional parse type 3 Message-ID: <xKrlJh8I3zx7@eisner.encompasserve.org>   { In article <1102611590.231012.244740@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Sylvain F.DUBOIS" <sylvain_dubois_ca@yahoo.ca> writes:  > Hello, >  > G > I would like to know if someone of you found a workaround about a NFS B > Client "feature" not supported by HP OpenVMS by all TCP/IP (UCX) > versions.  >   G    It's not at all clear from what you wrote just what your end problem D    is.  Why do you need all uppercase file names when you're storing:    data on a case-preserving case-insensitive file system?   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 14:04:14 -0800 " From: kaminski@ikp.tu-darmstadt.de Subject: Re: OpenVMS Multimedia B Message-ID: <1102629854.220637.71610@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   Keith Cayemberg wrote:% > kaminski@ikp.tu-darmstadt.de wrote: 
 > > Hallo, > > 7 > > gibt es irgendwelche Multimedia-tools fuer OpenVMS?  >  > doch!  > 2 > _OpenVMS Multimedia Solutions - Video and Sound_ >  > *OpenVMS Multimedia Services* < > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/mmov/index.html > Multimedia - OpenVMS HELP * > http://zinser.no-ip.info/HELP/Multimedia > , > *DECWindows ARCHIVE - Animation and Video*$ > http://decwarch.free.fr/video.html > ( > *DECWindows ARCHIVE - Audio and Sound*$ > http://decwarch.free.fr/audio.html > ( > Alpha Software Express - Audio Express0 > http://www.alphase.com/Audio/Announcement.html > . > Compaq Multimedia Services for OpenVMS Alpha > H http://www.sysworks.com.au/disk$axpdocdec022/progtool/mmserv22/runti.htm > - > Converting a DECserver 200 to a MIDI-Server 1 > http://www.vaxman.de/projects/midi/midi200.html  > ; > DECtalk - Fonix Corporation - DECtalk : Technical Manuals 3 > http://www.fonix.com/products/dectalk/manuals.php  > 1 > DECtalk - Index of /freeware/freeware40/dectalk < > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/freeware40/dectalk/ > 1 > DECtalk - Index of /freeware/freeware50/dectalk < > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/freeware50/dectalk/ > 3 > DECtalk - OpenVMS RTL DECtalk (DTK$) Manual - PDF  > H http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/documentation/pdf/OVMS_RTL_DTK.pdf > % > Flash Plugin for Mozilla on OpenVMS % > http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/extra/  >  > GIFMerge - Home Page > http://the-labs.com/GIFMerge/  > G > GIFMerge - GIF Animation tool - Phil Ottewell's Free Software for VMS 2 > http://www.yrl.co.uk/~phil/pds/pds.html#GIFMerge > 5 > GIFMERGE - GIF Anim creator - The DECWindows Archiv ) > http://decwarch.free.fr/video.html#MISC  >  > HIFI STEREO for OpenVMS . > http://membres.lycos.fr/pmoreau/audiogb.html > . > Jazz Midi Sequencer - The DECWindows ARCHIVE) > http://decwarch.free.fr/audio.html#JAZZ  >  > Lame 3_93_1 for VMS % > http://decwarch.free.fr/decwindows/  > & > madplay and MAD - MPEG Audio Decoder9 > http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html#MAD  > 1 > MG_PLAY -  An MPEG (movie) player for OpenVMS -  > Hunter Goatley's FILESERV @ > http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?MPEG_PLAY > & > MPEG_PLAY - MPJZ's hyper VMS SW-list5 > http://zinser.no-ip.info/www/vms/sw/mpeg_play.htmlx  > 5 > MPG123 - Plays MP3 files from local files or URLs -  > OpenVMS Freeware CD v67 > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware60/mpg123/  >  > MPG123 - Marl Berryman2 > http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/submissions/mpg123/ > C > MPlayer for OpenVMS (a porting project in progress for OpenVMS) -   > pre-release SW without support% > http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/extra/  > MPlayer - freshmeat.net ( > http://freshmeat.net/projects/mplayer/ > MPlayer - The Movie Player4 > http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html > ; > ROSEGARDEN - Musical Notation Editor and Midi Sequencer -  > OpenVMS Freeware CD v4; > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/rosegarden/  > B > SoX - convert various formats of audio files in to other formats9 > http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html#SoX  > 7 > Timidity MIDI and MOD Player - The DECWindows Archive ) > http://decwarch.free.fr/audio.html#TIMI  >  > Timidity - SAIC % > http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/extra/  > & > VAXcamera Software for VMS SPD - PDF4 > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/SP3343/SP3343PF.PDF > : > VCS Aktiengesselschaft - dira! - digital radio solutions+ > http://media.vcs.de/products/content/show  > % > VRweb - vrml viewer - TU Delft HREM ; > http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html#VRweb  >  > XAnim - Home Page ) > http://smurfland.cit.buffalo.edu/xanim/  >  > XAnim - U of Texas. > http://www.utexas.edu/cc/vms/apps/xanim.html > 3 > XFORGE Sound File Editor - The DECWindows Archive + > http://decwarch.free.fr/audio.html#XFORGE  > ( > *XMCD - Motif CD Player - ibiblio.org*# > http://www.ibiblio.org/tkan/xmcd/  > 1 > *XMCD audio CD Player - The DECWindows Archive* ) > http://decwarch.free.fr/audio.html#XMCD  > < > XMORPH - Morphing under X Windows - The DECWindows Archive+ > http://decwarch.free.fr/video.html#XMORPH  >  > C > > Im Moment verwende ich mpg123 zum abspielen von Musik, aber das  FehlenF > > von den noetigsten Funktionen (Vorlauf/R=FCcklauf, etc.) macht das ganze E > > ziemlich.... unakzeptabel. Ich habe schon einige mpg123-Frontends F > > probiert, die scheiterten aber alle an der miserablen curses, bzw.- > > fehlenden ncurses implementation von VMS. ? > > (auch dieses emacs-frontend scheint nicht zu funktionieren)  > 2 > Emacs - Older Emacs Versions - CTRL-C User Group > K http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/ftp/gnu-vms/html/software/released2/old_emacs.html  > 2 > Emacs 19.16 for VMS - MIT Project Athena Archive@ > http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/project/sipb-athena/src/emacs/vms/ > ! > Emacs 19.28 - CTRL-C User Group  > L http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/ftp/gnu-vms/html/software/released1/emacs.html#get= _emacs_1928_kit  > % > Emacs 21.2 - OpenVMS Freeware v6 CD ; > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware60/emacs-21_2/  > 2 > Emacs Language Sensitive Editor (ELSE) templates* > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dharter46/ > % > Emacs Language Sensitive Extensions % > http://www.zipworld.com.au/~peterm/  >  > EmacsWiki: EmacsOnVMS 2 > http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsOnVMS >  > GNU Emacs 19.28 - Levitte 8 > http://www.lp.se/gnu-vms/software/released1/emacs.html > 8 > GNU Emacs for VMS - 1992 Sep 19 16:15:54 - FTP Archive5 > http://www.klid.dk/ftp/gnu/gnu-utils/gnu/emacs/vms/  > > > info2hlp - Convert EMACS info file to VMS help file format - > Martin Vorl=E4nder2 > http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/info2hlp > ( > Emacs/W3 4.0 - Emacs-based Web Browser% > http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/  >  > Multilingualization  > http://tsukuba.m17n.org/ >  > Emacs Resources at Fermi Lab* > http://www.fnal.gov/docs/products/emacs/ >  > > G > > GTK-Frontends habe ich noch nicht probiert. Wie hoch ist ueberhaupt  der ) > > Aufwand GTK-Programme zu uebersetzen? 3 > Ich habe damit leider kein Erfahrung. Trotzdem...  >  > GTK+ for OpenVMS9 > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/gtk.html  > $ > GTK+ v1.2.8 For OpenVMS Patch Kit.? > http://www.ourservers.net/openvms_ports/gtk/gtk_contents.html  > % > glib/gtk+ and glib2 - TU Delft HREM 9 > http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html#gtk  >  > gtk2+ Library - TU Delft HREM : > http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html#GTK2 > 	 > Cheers!  >  > Keith Cayemberg + > IBM Business Services - Hannover, Germany   4 Vielen Dank! Da muss ich mich erstmal durchackern :): madplay scheint aber leider keine soundausgabe zu koennen.  	 Bis dann!    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 19:51:47 -0600 + From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) 9 Subject: Re: OT: Chinese now 3rd biggest PC manufacturers 3 Message-ID: <NbFL5oCuiBFV@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <41B73415.44BEBA3E@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Bob Koehler wrote: >>  : >>    Kudos to IBM for selling of the non-profit business. >>  ; >>    Someone inside HP please insert between Carly's ears: ( >>       The handwriting is on the wall. > . > And even more kudos for IBM doing it first.   6 	Oooops!  Someone forgot to tell the analyst community" 	it should be Kuddnose all around!  - http://www.techweb.com/wire/hardware/55300732   2   IBM Could Lose Half Its PC Prospects To Dell, HP     By Gregg Keizer, TechWeb News   O Almost half of the U.S. enterprises who were IBM PC prospects said that they're M ready to consider Dell or HP now that the Armonk, N.Y.-based giant is dumping D its desktop and laptop business, a research firm reported Thursday. L Earlier this week, IBM sold its PC business to Lenovo Group, China's biggestM computer maker, for $1.75 billion in cash and stock. But while IBM executives M have been promising that there will be little or no disruption in business as N the hand-over takes place, analysts at research firms such as Forrester sang a different tune.   M "The problem is that there will be disruption," said Robert McNeill, a senior 8 analyst with Cambridge, Mass.-based Forrester Research.     	  				Rob    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:07:24 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> @ Subject: Palmisano: PC Biz Didn't Fit into IBM's On-Demand Model, Message-ID: <PIednem_XPoGUSXcRVn-uw@igs.net>  3 http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1738140,00.asp    ....I "Today, computing and its uses are again changing radically-to what we've D been describing as on demand business. This is opening up tremendousK opportunities for IBM, and it's why we have invested billions of dollars in K recent years to strengthen our capabilities in hardware, software, services I and core technologies focused on transforming the enterprise. At the same J time, the PC business is rapidly taking on characteristics of the home andG consumer electronics industry, which favors economies of scale, pricing J power and a focus on individual users and buyers. These are very differentG business and economic models, and they will diverge even further in the  years ahead." ......   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:06:45 -0800 ' From: Arthur Schwarz <aschwarz@acm.org> ) Subject: PC/PCI DRQ3B card for Windows XP 5 Message-ID: <pM5ud.10$195.5@dfw-service2.ext.ray.com>   = Anyone know if any of these cards exist and where to get one?    art    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 11:15:49 -0800 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init fileC Message-ID: <1102619749.136584.234160@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Mike Buchanan wrote:" > > Up arrow    - move up one line& > > Down arrow    - move down one line >  > Done by default.... E > (as are the next page and prevouis page keys mapped to next screen,  prevoius screen).  >  >  > > Keypad 4    - page forward > > Keypad 6    - page backward  > > Keypad 1    - quit > F > define_key (eve$$kt_return + "eve_next_screen", KP4, "Next Screen");D > define_key (eve$$kt_return + "eve_previous_screen", KP6, "Previous	 Screen"); 7 > define_key (eve$$kt_return + "eve_quit", KP1, "Ta!");  > G > These command go into a TPU$COMMAND.TPU file in the user's sys$login.  >  [...]   F The OP said he wants ONLY those keys defined. IOW, he wants to DISABLE> ALL OTHER KEYS. But if he uses EDIT/TPU/READ_ONLY and disables: control-Y, he may not need to; see my other posts on this.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:28:09 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file6 Message-ID: <00A3C16A.9FC63FB1@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  s In article <Ug0ud.6178$yr1.4279@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Mike Buchanan" <News@InsightfulMES.com> writes: K >I was hoping that someone could help me out with some simple editor setup.  > K >I have written a program that will generate a large text file that I want  L >the user to view.  This program is called from within another program that M >is used by operators in a factory.  I was thinking of spawning a subprocess  L >and use a text editor to view the file.  The users do not normally use any C >VMS editors, so without some key mapping this isn't a good option.  > @ >I would like the editor to have only the following keys mapped: >  >Up arrow    - move up one line # >Down arrow    - move down one line  >Keypad 4    - page forward  >Keypad 6    - page backward >Keypad 1    - quit  >  >That's it.  > N >I was thinking that an EDT command file with lines might work.  I don't have . >any documentation other than the online HELP. >  >Anyone know how to do this? > 6 >Or maybe the EDT or TPU manual are on-line somewhere?  M Yes, you could certainly create a TPU section file that would define a keypad K that could only do what you want.  But this seems like overkill, since what - you want is a file viewer, not a text editor.    / How about spawning "TYPE/PAGE=SAVE filename"?      -- Alan    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 14:11:19 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file, Message-ID: <41B8A346.FED028DB@teksavvy.com>   Mike Buchanan wrote:  > Up arrow    - move up one line$ > Down arrow    - move down one line   Done by default.... U (as are the next page and prevouis page keys mapped to next screen, prevoius screen).      > Keypad 4    - page forward > Keypad 6    - page backward  > Keypad 1    - quit  D define_key (eve$$kt_return + "eve_next_screen", KP4, "Next Screen");L define_key (eve$$kt_return + "eve_previous_screen", KP6, "Previous Screen");5 define_key (eve$$kt_return + "eve_quit", KP1, "Ta!");   E These command go into a TPU$COMMAND.TPU file in the user's sys$login.   E There is a TPU manual that describes many of the functions. (EVE is a	J customization of TPU with many functiosn defined). Also, TPU can be calledK directly from an application, again, it is documented. If you go to the vms N web site http://www.hp.com/go/vms and then look for the on-line documentationsG on VMS, and when given the list, look for the TPU/EVE manual. There arerN probably command to make the buffer read-only if you do not want the operators to modify the contents.s  L Also, you will find the EVE definitiosn in SYS$EXAMPLES:*.TPU which can give1 you plenty of inspiration on how things are done.r   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 11:11:21 -0800s$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init fileC Message-ID: <1102619481.780846.211700@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>e  
 AEF wrote: > Mike Buchanan wrote:G > > I was hoping that someone could help me out with some simple editori > setup. > >cF > > I have written a program that will generate a large text file that IQ > wantA > > the user to view.  This program is called from within another  programf > thatD > > is used by operators in a factory.  I was thinking of spawning a > subprocessF > > and use a text editor to view the file.  The users do not normally	 > use any F > > VMS editors, so without some key mapping this isn't a good option. > >eC > > I would like the editor to have only the following keys mapped:E > > " > > Up arrow    - move up one line& > > Down arrow    - move down one line > > Keypad 4    - page forward > > Keypad 6    - page backward- > > Keypad 1    - quit > >- > > That's it. > >-E > > I was thinking that an EDT command file with lines might work.  Ir > don't have1 > > any documentation other than the online HELP.s > >D > > Anyone know how to do this?. > >o9 > > Or maybe the EDT or TPU manual are on-line somewhere?  > >- > > Mike >-F > I assume you don't want the users to be able to alter the text file,G > not even in the editor's main buffer. I think this will go a long way0 > to solving your problem: >  > $ EDIT/TPU/READ_ONLY fileL >cF > assuming a vanilla VMS environment. The only thing left is to defineE > the keys you want. Since the above command creates an "unmodifable"SE > buffer which is displayed on the terminal -- combined with the factoF > that the user cannot create a new copy of the file -- all you should@ > only have to worry about is defining the keys you want and notD > disabling the keys you don't want. Well, you might want to disableG > control-Y interrupts. But I don't think you really need to explicitlytD > disable all other keys. And if the operators are using a PC you'll endeF > up with the page up and page down keys working normally! On a VT the( > Next and Prev keys will work normally. >sG > Of course if the file is REALLY HUGE there may be a delay in bringing3A > it up on the screen while TPU copies the entire file to virtualc memory.1 >f >2G > If you still need to disable all other keys it might be better to usewD > EDT with a SET MODE CHANGE in the EDT initialization file. Maybe a TPUoC > wizard can suggest an easy way to disable all the keys -- I don'te know.   5 What I meant here was that with EDT I know you can doy   DEFINE GOLD A AS "." DEFINE GOLD B AS "." ...  DEFINE CONTROL A AS "."m ...p DEFINE GOLD CONTROL A AS "."   etc. From any EDT session, run   *HELP DEFINE KEY KEY  5 from the * prompt to see all the possible key combos.m  G EDT's online help is pretty extensive. But the EDT doc should be online2> at the hp Web site. Look for "archived documents" or the like.' Actually, you can find it on this page:o  + http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/archived.html5  D For some reason it doesn't come up when you type "title: edt" in the search box.e  C With my TPU wizard comment I meant that maybe there's an easier way : with TPU and that some TPU wizard may be able to show you.) Sorry if my original reply was confusing.f   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 11:55:06 -0800i$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init fileB Message-ID: <1102622106.388116.97180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   Mike Buchanan wrote:E > I was hoping that someone could help me out with some simple editorm setup. > F > I have written a program that will generate a large text file that I wantG > the user to view.  This program is called from within another program  thatB > is used by operators in a factory.  I was thinking of spawning a
 subprocessD > and use a text editor to view the file.  The users do not normally use anygD > VMS editors, so without some key mapping this isn't a good option. >aA > I would like the editor to have only the following keys mapped:t >   > Up arrow    - move up one line$ > Down arrow    - move down one line > Keypad 4    - page forward > Keypad 6    - page backward  > Keypad 1    - quit >o > That's it. >gC > I was thinking that an EDT command file with lines might work.  Is
 don't have/ > any documentation other than the online HELP.i  2 The EDT online help is fairly comprehensive. Check   *HELP DEFINE KEY KEY  ! for a list of all definable keys.a   >o > Anyone know how to do this?o   $ EDIT/TPU/READ_ONLY filei  B see other posts for defining keys, see my other post about why you@ don't need to disable other keys (except ^Y) using this command.   > 7 > Or maybe the EDT or TPU manual are on-line somewhere?i  6 You can find the link for the EDT manual on this page:  + http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/archived.htmla  @ For some reason this doesn't come up with their search function.  E The TPU manual is on the main openvms documentation openVMS operating  system page:  ) Look for titles containing these phrases:e   DEC Text Processing Utilityb Extenstible Versatile Editor  
 and the like.m   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:29:30 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file, Message-ID: <31rqtcF3cuj96U1@individual.net>   Mike Buchanan wrote: >...  > Up arrow    - move up one line$ > Down arrow    - move down one line > Keypad 4    - page forward > Keypad 6    - page backward  > Keypad 1    - quit >...  E I like Alan's TYPE/PAGE=SAVE idea, but here is a simple TPU procedurep& that should be close to what you want;   $ type simple.tpua3 input_file := GET_INFO (COMMAND_LINE, "file_name");91 main_buffer:= CREATE_BUFFER ("main", input_file);r& POSITION (BEGINNING_OF (main_buffer));& main_window := create_window(1,21,on); MAP (main_window,main_buffer); !f define_key ("EXIT",kp1);$ define_key ("move_vertical(1)",kp2);% define_key ("move_vertical(-1)",kp8); % define_key ("move_vertical(20)",kp6);L& define_key ("move_vertical(-20)",kp4);% define_key ("move_vertical(1)",down);n$ define_key ("move_vertical(-1)",up); !DE $ edit/tpu/nosection/command=sys$login:simple.tpu/read_only 'filenamev   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.v Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.cal   ------------------------------   Date: 9 DEC 2004 21:53:03 GMTv+ From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov>w( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file1 Message-ID: <9DEC04.21530379@feda01.fed.ornl.gov>d  T In a previous article, "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Mike Buchanan wrote: > >..." > > Up arrow    - move up one line& > > Down arrow    - move down one line > > Keypad 4    - page forward > > Keypad 6    - page backward, > > Keypad 1    - quit > >... >  aG > I like Alan's TYPE/PAGE=SAVE idea, but here is a simple TPU procedureu( > that should be close to what you want; >  c > $ type simple.tpux5 > input_file := GET_INFO (COMMAND_LINE, "file_name");h3 > main_buffer:= CREATE_BUFFER ("main", input_file);f( > POSITION (BEGINNING_OF (main_buffer));( > main_window := create_window(1,21,on);  > MAP (main_window,main_buffer); > !  > define_key ("EXIT",kp1);& > define_key ("move_vertical(1)",kp2);' > define_key ("move_vertical(-1)",kp8);h' > define_key ("move_vertical(20)",kp6);e( > define_key ("move_vertical(-20)",kp4);' > define_key ("move_vertical(1)",down);r& > define_key ("move_vertical(-1)",up); > !iG > $ edit/tpu/nosection/command=sys$login:simple.tpu/read_only 'filename,  E Personally, I haven't used a 20-line display in years.  To get closerc6 to "page forward" or "page backward" you could replace  '   define_key ("move_vertical(20)",kp6);a(   define_key ("move_vertical(-20)",kp4);   with something like   0   screen_length := get_info( screen, "length" );2   define_key ("move_vertical(screen_length)",kp6);3   define_key ("move_vertical(-screen_length)",kp4);c  G However, even that doesn't give the next screenfull - it just moves the'I cursor a fixed number of lines.  So you get a different display depending-C on which line the cursor starts from.  I'd guess something like them1 following might give a true next page (untested):e     define_key (C    "move_vertical(screen_length*2-get_info(screen,'current_row');",:	    kp6 );o   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOVrH Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 14:01:46 -0800a From: Z <z@no.spam>.( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file' Message-ID: <uX3ud.223$9e.203@fe07.lga>r   Mike Buchanan wrote: > Anyone know how to do this?-  1 Why not just use TYPE/PAGE=SAVE to view the file?   9 That will allow for scroll back and fwd, by line or page.o   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 14:15:52 -0800@$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init fileC Message-ID: <1102630552.070139.128130@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>p   Dave Greenwood wrote: ' > In a previous article, "Peter Weaver"e. <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Mike Buchanan wrote: > > >...$ > > > Up arrow    - move up one line( > > > Down arrow    - move down one line  > > > Keypad 4    - page forward! > > > Keypad 6    - page backwardr > > > Keypad 1    - quit > > >... > >r? > > I like Alan's TYPE/PAGE=SAVE idea, but here is a simple TPUM	 procedureh* > > that should be close to what you want;    > The TYPE/PAGE=SAVE command is not good for files larger than 5E screenfuls or so. Otherwise it's fine except for the keyboard mapping  that the OP requested.     > > $ type simple.tpuo7 > > input_file := GET_INFO (COMMAND_LINE, "file_name");b5 > > main_buffer:= CREATE_BUFFER ("main", input_file); * > > POSITION (BEGINNING_OF (main_buffer));* > > main_window := create_window(1,21,on);" > > MAP (main_window,main_buffer); > > !g > > define_key ("EXIT",kp1);( > > define_key ("move_vertical(1)",kp2);) > > define_key ("move_vertical(-1)",kp8);/) > > define_key ("move_vertical(20)",kp6);0* > > define_key ("move_vertical(-20)",kp4);) > > define_key ("move_vertical(1)",down);P( > > define_key ("move_vertical(-1)",up); > > ! ? > > $ edit/tpu/nosection/command=sys$login:simple.tpu/read_only 	 'filenamed    G The problem with this is that he wants *ONLY* these keys to be defined.aE He wants all other keys to be disabled, AFAICT. Sounds like a pain to > disable all other keys. However, using EDIT/TPU/READ_ONLY as IB suggested earlier should obivate the need for disabling other keys (except ^Y, of course).e    G > Personally, I haven't used a 20-line display in years.  To get closerr8 > to "page forward" or "page backward" you could replace > ) >   define_key ("move_vertical(20)",kp6);2* >   define_key ("move_vertical(-20)",kp4); >f > with something like' >n2 >   screen_length := get_info( screen, "length" );4 >   define_key ("move_vertical(screen_length)",kp6);5 >   define_key ("move_vertical(-screen_length)",kp4);g > E > However, even that doesn't give the next screenfull - it just moves  thelA > cursor a fixed number of lines.  So you get a different display 	 dependingeE > on which line the cursor starts from.  I'd guess something like thet3 > following might give a true next page (untested):V >  >   define_key (E >    "move_vertical(screen_length*2-get_info(screen,'current_row');",m >    kp6 );o    F Actually, you can use SET SCROLL MARGINS 0% 100%. This will make everyD vertical movement of the cursor move the text. The only problem with@ this is when you get to the end of the file the cursor will move without moving the text.  D Also, you might want *some* overlap between one screen and the next.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:42:45 GMTgL From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file6 Message-ID: <00A3C185.CF539DE5@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  j In article <1102630552.070139.128130@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> writes: >Dave Greenwood wrote:( >> In a previous article, "Peter Weaver"/ ><WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> wrote:e >> > Mike Buchanan wrote:n	 >> > >...x% >> > > Up arrow    - move up one linel) >> > > Down arrow    - move down one lineo! >> > > Keypad 4    - page forwardg" >> > > Keypad 6    - page backward >> > > Keypad 1    - quite	 >> > >...a >> >@ >> > I like Alan's TYPE/PAGE=SAVE idea, but here is a simple TPU
 >procedure+ >> > that should be close to what you want;s >, >P? >The TYPE/PAGE=SAVE command is not good for files larger than 5.F >screenfuls or so. Otherwise it's fine except for the keyboard mapping >that the OP requested.s  M Well, how about the "MOST" (enhanced _more_) file viewer?  It was good enoughu
 for SWING.   -- Alane   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:13:56 GMT<. From: "Mike Buchanan" <News@InsightfulMES.com>( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init fileA Message-ID: <oL6ud.6897$0r.1064@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>S   > / > How about spawning "TYPE/PAGE=SAVE filename"?k >i	 > -- Alane  C I didn't know about this feature.  It's pretty close but not quite.-  H The operators are accessing the program that calls my program from a PC J running Reflections.  The operators really don't know anything about VMS. I The PC keyboard doesn't have several of the keys mentioned on the bottom  M line.  No PREV, NEXT, INS, REM or SELECT keys.  OK, they're there, mapped to  K some other keys, but still tells them to click keys that they don't see on R their keyboards.  J The one other thing that's a bit of a problem is that once you get to the K end of the file the TYPE command ends and you can't page back.  If I use a 3M text editor and they page quickly it will just get to the end, stop and tell  ) them "no more".  They can then page back.   : I will look at some of the other suggestions and try them.  % Thanks to everyone for all your help.e   Mike e   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:24:54 -0500r- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init file, Message-ID: <41B91701.4A309702@teksavvy.com>   Mike Buchanan wrote:I > The operators are accessing the program that calls my program from a PCuK > running Reflections.  The operators really don't know anything about VMS.s  J If you had an Xterminal software on your PC (such as Xcursions), you couldF user the CDA viewer to pop a window on the PC to display the contents.  K With TPU, you can also generate a 25th status line or change the 24 line touH display your PF key definitions, which would make it more user friendly.  M If the next page/prev page on the PC don't map well to the VMS ones, then you&L should look into the reflection setup because that is something which should be mappable.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 03:58:48 GMT . From: "Mike Buchanan" <News@InsightfulMES.com>( Subject: Re: Simple EDT or TPU init fileB Message-ID: <Y99ud.6606$yr1.5370@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>   Peter,  + The command file maps the keys as I'd like.o   A couple things and I'm good:   I 1) Is there a way to disable the TPU warnings?  The messages break right  M across the screen.  For example if I'm at the top and I try to page up again -2 the following is printed over the top of the text:  B %TPU-W-BEGOFBUF, attempt to move past the beginning of buffer MAIN4 -TPU-I-INBUILTIN, occurred in built-in MOVE_VERTICAL -TPU-I-ATLINE, at line 2  G 2) The /READ_ONLY option doesn't seem to have any effect.  I can still  I insert text with the main keyboard keys.  Is there a way to go into read d% only mode via a command file command?e  
 Mike Buchanan   H "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> wrote in message & news:31rqtcF3cuj96U1@individual.net... > Mike Buchanan wrote: >>...w! >> Up arrow    - move up one lineo% >> Down arrow    - move down one linee >> Keypad 4    - page forwardu >> Keypad 6    - page backward >> Keypad 1    - quit  >>...a >gG > I like Alan's TYPE/PAGE=SAVE idea, but here is a simple TPU procedure-( > that should be close to what you want; >0 > $ type simple.tpun5 > input_file := GET_INFO (COMMAND_LINE, "file_name"); 3 > main_buffer:= CREATE_BUFFER ("main", input_file);7( > POSITION (BEGINNING_OF (main_buffer));( > main_window := create_window(1,21,on);  > MAP (main_window,main_buffer); > !( > define_key ("EXIT",kp1);& > define_key ("move_vertical(1)",kp2);' > define_key ("move_vertical(-1)",kp8);o' > define_key ("move_vertical(20)",kp6);a( > define_key ("move_vertical(-20)",kp4);' > define_key ("move_vertical(1)",down);b& > define_key ("move_vertical(-1)",up); > ! G > $ edit/tpu/nosection/command=sys$login:simple.tpu/read_only 'filenamer >  > -- n > Peter Weaver! > Weaver Consulting Services Inc.d > Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAXn > www.weaverconsulting.caV >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:25:11 -0500p" From: Glenn Everhart <gce@gce.com>( Subject: Re: TK50 cartridge resurrection& Message-ID: <41B8ECE7.3010509@gce.com>   jordan@ccs4vms.com wrote:m > John,fD > thanks for replying.  The tapes are definitely not in TK70 format;I > some were created here way back when on TK50 and/or TZ30 drives, otherseG > were vendor distributions sent to us that we used, and we never had aiG > TK70 drive here.  A few are older VMS distributions that I was hoping ) > to save; sadly that looks unlikely now.h > A > The tapes are all write protected when we try to read them.  No I > attempt is being made to write them, though when we need to dump them IlE > plan on trying to initialize/erase them then physically crunch themn > just to follow procedure.. > = > We'll see what happens with the VMSTPCE utility or a customsH > program, but if the control track is whats messed up, I guess we won'tI > be recovering much.  Hopefully the racks of old magtapes will go easier  > in our TSZ05 drive.r >  > Thanks...r > Rich > C VMSTPCE was a stab at allowing tapes to be read without stopping oniN errors, but it certainly did not set all the $qio modifiers that are availableJ for error handling. Reduced error recovery is one possibility. Beyond thatP if you use some of the example programs that send io$_diagnose to tapes and sendQ bare SCSI read commands to a TZ30, you get what you get with the fewest possible oS interventions by mkdriver to try to fix errors. I'd try whatever you could of thesefR techniques to get data back. Then possibly hex editors might be needed to retrieveF anything that was variable record size where bytecounts got clobbered.  [ My experience with this kind of thing is that binary files are pretty hopeless once a tape mZ gets into this state, but you can often recognize source code well enough to fix it up by Z hand, depending how hard you want to work. If bare scsi read gets nothing though, chances Z are only a specialized drive could read the data. Such exist but the shops that have them  are not cheap.   Glenn Everhart   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 21:55:36 +0100, From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>1 Subject: VMS support for the Adaptec 2940W/2940UWp, Message-ID: <31rsfdF3fuh5eU1@individual.net>  F As the subject says: is there AXP/VMS support for the Adaptec pci card labeled 2940W/2940UW ?   Hans   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Dec 2004 14:10:56 -0800 " From: "ewilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org> Subject: Re: VMS V1mC Message-ID: <1102630256.065495.104140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>S  B I cut my teeth on Vaxes with Intergraph back in  1981 or 1982 (andD RSX-11 on an Intergraph PDP-11/70 before that).  'twas the blue wallD (VMS 2.4) that I learned VMS on.  My brain cells may still have someC Intergraph knowledge left in there even though I haven't touched anp8 Intergraph system since 1990 so holler if you've got any  Intergraph-specific questions...  	    .../Eds   mailto:ewilts@ewilts.org   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.684 ************************