1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 14 Dec 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 692       Contents: Re: BNC to RJ45 on an alpha300 Re: BNC to RJ45 on an alpha300* Re: CSWS 2.0 - newbie help needed again...5 Re: Deutsche Borse wants to buy London Stock Exchange / Re: Intel accelerates deployment of 64 bit 8086  Interesting article  Re: Interesting article  Re: Interesting article 
 More on Tru64  Re: More on Tru64  Re: News Server  Re: News Server 0 Re: NFS mount of ODS-5 vs traditional parse type1 Re: Problems with BACKUP and  vms732_update-v0300   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:47:21 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> ' Subject: Re: BNC to RJ45 on an alpha300 , Message-ID: <41BDE3B9.5060001@tsoft-inc.com>   Tom Simpson wrote:  N > Isn't there a switch (near the ports) that needs to be set to other positionF > to select the other port?  Actually, I think it was a push button... > 
 > Regards, > Tom  >  > 7 > "Goodman" <emmanuel.goodman@csgv.fr> wrote in message & > news:cpk71r$r7h$1@news.tiscali.fr... > 	 >>Hi all,  >>H >>We have in our office an alphaserver 300 with a network card bnc/rj45.I >>Actually, this server is connected with the bnc port. I want to use the  >> > RJ45 >  >>port. F >>So, i unplugged the bnc port and i connected the RJ45 port (before i >> > tested > % >>my cable!!!) and i reboot my alpha.   & This is basically an AlphaStation 200.  Q There may be a switch.  I don't think so.  That was on the MicroVAX 3100 systems   and possibly others.  P In the SRM console you need to specify what type of ethernet connection you are J using.  It's been several years, so I don't remember the specifics of the 1 command.  Get into the SRM console and type HELP.    Dave   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:36:08 +0000 (UTC) - From: lewis@SPYDER.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) ' Subject: Re: BNC to RJ45 on an alpha300 . Message-ID: <cpkqv8$565$1@newslocal.mitre.org>  | "Goodman" <emmanuel.goodman@csgv.fr> writes in article <cpkgjd$nek$1@news.tiscali.fr> dated Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:39:50 +0100: >When i wrote this command:  >>>>sho ewa0_mode  >The alpha answer AUI.& >But no AUI on this server....Strange!  K To the hardware, AUI and BNC are indistinguishable.  But, as you found out, = TWISTED_PAIR is different.  As are the other supported modes.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------   Date: 13 DEC 2004 21:09:13 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)3 Subject: Re: CSWS 2.0 - newbie help needed again... 6 Message-ID: <13DEC04.21091318@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  - In a previous article, "Schroeder, AJ" wrote:  ->  H ->I have enabled the UserDir directive and defined the home dir on CSWS,L ->however, every time I navigate to http://server/~user I get the 'ForbiddenL ->403' message. Whenever I would get that in the past on *nix, it was alwaysI ->releated to permissions, so I googled for the answer and found that the L ->APACHE$WWW user needs read on the home dir of the user and read+execute onL ->the public_html folder and files underneath. I set that up and the resultsH ->are below. The only other thing that I can think of is that I have theK ->httpd.conf set-up wrong, but no matter how I set up the directory I still  ->get the 403. ->    B Have you uncommented the directory statement following the userdirB and specified where your user's home dir's live: Example (for your case):  / <Directory /DISK$HOMES-CSWS/HOME/*/public_html> 3     AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit Indexes L     Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec +Includes%     <Limit GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND>          Order allow,deny         Allow from all     </Limit>+     <LimitExcept GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND>          Order deny,allow         Deny from all      </LimitExcept> </Directory>  H Note that the first "directory" name (/disk$homes-csws in this case) canE also have a wildcard in it so you can span multiple volumes. I.e. you > could have users on several volumes such as disk$homes-csws_0,A disk$homes-csws_1, ... then specify /disk$homes-csws_*/... in the  directory statement.   --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison 7 --                karcher.nomorespom@waisman.wisc.edu      ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:37:07 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> > Subject: Re: Deutsche Borse wants to buy London Stock Exchange, Message-ID: <DJmdnWvfjt9c3iPcRVn-pA@igs.net>   Dr. Dweeb wrote: > JF Mezei wrote: F >> BBC reports that the german stock market is making a bid to buy the? >> London Stock Exchange (something like 2.5 billion US bucks).  >>H >> Does Deutsche Borse use VMS ? Any chance they may influence the LSE's2 >> next technological decisions in favour of VMS ? > D > This was doing the rounds a year or two ago IIRC. I cannot imagineD > anything good coming from the union of DBrse and the Stock.  ThisG > opinion is based on personal experience at DBrse, plus the fact that 6 > I have several collegues who have spent time at LSE. > F > DBrse use the VMS systems for trading and clearing plus a few otherF > odds and ends - the trading system was originally buit for the swissA > exchange by Accenture (Andersen back then).  IIRC the sofex (?) G > project started sometime in 1986 - so the code is pretty old & crusty G > now, and has been modified a zillion times by programmers of variable 
 > quality. > D > Speaking from first hand experience, and not wishing to offend theC > DBrse personel who frequent this list too much - my professional G > evaluation is that DBrse is one of the least sophisticated VMS sites E > at which I have ever worked - certainly from a development point of F > view, and operations (with a few notable exceptions) never struck me? > as the bees knees either.  I cannot conceive of anything at a D > technology level that LSE would have to learn from DBrse.  RatherF > like BT had nothing to learn from DBank with respect to money market1 > trading systems on VMS (or any other platform).  > < > Btw, my understanding is that DBrse are in the process ofB > outsourcing large chunks of development and maintenance of theseE > systems to India.  They have certainly fired lots of IT contractors B > and cut contract rates over and over again - pissing off all andC > sundry - with only the permanents, and the desparate remaining in  > place. > F > Some of the systems use Rdb, but the level of sophistication is 2 onG > a 10 scale.  If these systems are outsourced, they will probably have G > to change databases, because the number of Rdb professionals sites in E > India was at last count zero - and the number of experienced people  > about the same.  > - > Just what is the Stock using these days ???     I EDX, their equity derivatives exchange runs OM software but I never found K out whether it was on VMS or AIX.  If memory serves me correctly, I believe   that the LSE proper runs on NSK.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:00:27 GMT # From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> 8 Subject: Re: Intel accelerates deployment of 64 bit 8086< Message-ID: <LWqvd.159802$6w6.99907@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>  F But I hear that Sony is producing a 64 bit chip that will be 10 times  faster. What will that mean?     Tom Linden wrote:   0 > On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:21:54 -0500, JF Mezei  ' > <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:  >  >> ## > >> Intel once said desktop buyers wouldn't really need 64-bit  >> capabilities  untilA >> toward the end of the decade, but the company will make such    >> capabilities a . >> feature across its desktop lines next year. >>D >> The Santa Clara, Calif.-based chipmaker disclosed at its analyst  >> meeting  inJ >> New York that it will include 64-bit functionality on its desktop chipsL >> starting in 2005, a schedule that roughly coincides with the release of aA >> 64-bit version of Windows for desktops coming next year. The    >> functionality/ >> will appear even in the budget Celeron line.  >> ##  >> >> full article at:  >>g >>> http://news.com.com/Intel+to+put+64+bits+in+desktops+in+2005/2100-1006_3-5482345.html?tag=nefd.top   >>>  >> >>J >> This is, of course no surprise. AMD has put pressure on Intel to make  
 >> its ownG >> 8086 64 bits, and AMD will put pressure on Intel to raise the 8086's K >> performance and features to grab more and more of the enterprise market.  >>L >> Perhaps we haven't heard much of Hoff lately because he is sequestered in7 >> ZKO's basement working on the VMS port to the 8086 ?  >>? >> Seems to me that both HP and Intel are on some fast path to   >> announcing  IA64's I >> demise. I was originally under the impression that they'd wait until    >> 2007. ButH >> now, I am not sure that IA64 will see the end of 2005 before its EOL  >> is  announced.  >  > , > I wonder if they will have smp support :-) >    ------------------------------   Date: 14 Dec 2004 01:09:19 GMT From: Phaeton  <spam@spam.org> Subject: Interesting article, Message-ID: <326spvF3d49dlU1@individual.net>  ; 	There is an hard-hitting article on the Inquirer, titled :   # 	"Hewlett Packard: What a screw up"   * 	http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20208  = 	Verrry interesting :-) It is part one, there will be more on = 	the next day, the site says. ( The last paragraph is good. )  	Read it and weep... 						Cheers,  Csaba  J  -------------------------------------------------------------------------I    CSABA I. HARANGOZO   |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|   phaeton at iinet dot net dot au J  -------------------------------------------------------------------------;    EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:   ,  Gargoyle (n.), an olive-flavored mouthwash.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:41:36 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>   Subject: Re: Interesting article, Message-ID: <LqSdnQsORptT2SPcRVn-ig@igs.net>   Phaeton wrote:< > There is an hard-hitting article on the Inquirer, titled : > $ > "Hewlett Packard: What a screw up" > + > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20208  > > > Verrry interesting :-) It is part one, there will be more on> > the next day, the site says. ( The last paragraph is good. ) > Read it and weep...     ) It pretty much hits the nail on the head.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:42:32 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>   Subject: Re: Interesting articleB Message-ID: <1102999742.f43ca6caba7675610d5abc722f3f7ed5@teranews>   Phaeton wrote: > D >         There is an hard-hitting article on the Inquirer, titled :3 >         http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20208   M The problem is that so far, Carly has an answer to all those accusations. You G reneg on Alpha ? We've got something better for you: IA64. You reneg on G promise to port TruCluster, Carly has a better answer for you: veritas.     M You think HP is going to dump HP-UX in favour of Linux ? HP comes back with a L commitment and roadmap fr HP-UX for the next few years. Besides, HP couldn'tI be dumping HP-UX until Intel's 8086 chip can be used to build superdomes.   M So if you need enterprise-class systems TODAY, your choices are limited, even N if you know that in the next couple years, IA64 and HP-UX will be dead and theB 8086 will scale right up and that HP will be a Linux-Windows shop.  I IBM is in a slighly better position with the Power acrhitecture not going I away. But The same questions about HP-UX are asked about AIX. But IBM can M still sell you MVS (or whatever its name is this week). Note that MVS is also , transitioning to Power from the 360 lineage.    $ Now consider the following scenario:  J At the time Carly started to talk to Curly, it was already clear that IA64L wasn't going to be the big success. Carly could have told Curly to put AlphaK back in the fast lane. HP buys Compaq, then announces that because it got a L superior chip architecture and a superior Unix core, that it would be movingH to ALpha, rebadge DECUnix into HP-UX etc etc.  Merced wouldn't have been< released and Intel would have cut its losses on a dead chip.  G As it stands Carly wouldn't admit to the mistake of going IA64 and kept N pushing for it. By the time the shit hits the fan, Carly will have moved on toM some politically appointed job. She probably has enough money to afford a big ? drop in salary with the excuse of "I want to serve my country".    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:57:45 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>  Subject: More on Tru64, Message-ID: <7ZCdnQuu96iqaSDcRVn-jQ@igs.net>  D http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/12/13/HNhpshiftshpuxfocus_1.html   ....L Privately, some at HP believe the company's long-term priorities will remainK with the Linux and Windows operating systems, and the decision to hand over J the high availability and file system development to Veritas could be seen/ as part of an ongoing movement away from HP-UX.   L "If we look at the operating systems market, the areas of significant growthK are Windows and Linux," said Dan Kusnetzky, an analyst at IDC. "My sense is J that HP, along with the other hardware suppliers, is looking at that trend> and trying to maintain their bias toward the growing markets."   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:35:09 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: More on Tru64+ Message-ID: <41BE515D.84A73A55@comcast.net>    John Smith wrote:  > F > http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/12/13/HNhpshiftshpuxfocus_1.html >  > ....N > Privately, some at HP believe the company's long-term priorities will remainM > with the Linux and Windows operating systems, and the decision to hand over L > the high availability and file system development to Veritas could be seen1 > as part of an ongoing movement away from HP-UX.  > N > "If we look at the operating systems market, the areas of significant growthM > are Windows and Linux," said Dan Kusnetzky, an analyst at IDC. "My sense is L > that HP, along with the other hardware suppliers, is looking at that trend@ > and trying to maintain their bias toward the growing markets."   Hey - here's a goofy thought...   F EMC already owns Legato. Suppose they buy up Veritas *AND* buy VMS andG StorageWorks from HP, partner with Dell to build IA32 and IA64 machines = and with Brocade to provide SAN infrastructure and become the B "successor" to DEC (as opposed to Compaq and HP who seem to be the "failors" to DEC).  ! How bizarre would *THAT* be???!!!    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:42:03 -0800 ! From: Fred Bach <music@triumf.ca>  Subject: Re: News Server( Message-ID: <41BDFE9B.9030404@triumf.ca>   John Smith wrote:    > Fred Bach wrote: >  > F >>   The un*x and lin*x users here laughed at us when we presented VMSF >>   as an option for the future.  But let me assure you, VMS is alive >>   and very well here. >  >    > Can you elaborate? >     /     Yes, to some extent....  Ask away.  ..fwb..    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:35:09 -0800 ! From: Fred Bach <music@triumf.ca>  Subject: Re: News Server( Message-ID: <41BE191D.1070803@triumf.ca>   Rob Young wrote:   > E > 	Okay.  What have you been up to Fred?  You haven't posted to c.o.v  > 	in five and a half years. > 	 > 				Rob   5    Getting married again.  Irene passed away.  ..fwb.    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Dec 2004 16:19:49 -0800 From: JimStrehlow@data911.com 9 Subject: Re: NFS mount of ODS-5 vs traditional parse type C Message-ID: <1102983589.921798.278770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Sylvain F.DUBOIS wrote: + > Oracle is case-sensitive since version 9.   C If you intend to install Oracle v9 onto an OpenVMS AlphaServer, you " must install it on an ODS-5 drive.C I have other ODS-2 disks for other applications running on the same  nodes.C Oracle v9 is java based using a GUI, long lowercase file names, and  deeply nested directories.= Jim Strehlow, Alameda, CA, USA, Systems and DBA Administrator    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:06:51 +0200 0 From: "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_hp.com>: Subject: Re: Problems with BACKUP and  vms732_update-v0300, Message-ID: <41be156a$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  ( "James" <horn@shsu.edu> wrote in message< news:1102952797.685571.73190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...B > After applying the update-v0300 patches, when I use BACKUP/IMAGE3 > command on the Operator account, I get a message:  > D > $ BACKUP/IMAGE/label=002182 TAPEDRIVE:$5$DKC300WKLY.BCK $5$DKA300:* > %NONAME-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000000 > F > and the backup does not work. When I run it under the system account8 > the same backup works fine. I am seeing some messages: > 6 > %BACKUP-I-BTCTIMESTAMP, interrupt 05:57, PC=00000000= > If anyone can be of some assistance, I would appreciate it.  >   @ You are doing nothing wrong and there is nothing wrong with yourB system. The kit introduced a problem with the message file. PleaseB escalate to your local support center or wait for the next kit....   Guy    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.692 ************************