1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 24 Dec 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 712       Contents:' Re: 497 million euro fine for Microsoft ' Re: 497 million euro fine for Microsoft ' Re: 497 million euro fine for Microsoft ' Re: 497 million euro fine for Microsoft ' Re: 497 million euro fine for Microsoft 1 CGI / PHP form posting examples for Apache (CSWS) 5 Re: CGI / PHP form posting examples for Apache (CSWS)   Hardware: Wanted Pincer CD caddy$ Re: Hardware: Wanted Pincer CD caddy) Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development ) Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development ) Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development ) Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development ) Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development ) Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development ) Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development  Re: More on Tru64 ' Re: Needed graphical Driver information 
 Re: Thank You " Re: TruCluster/AdvFS open-sourced?" Re: TruCluster/AdvFS open-sourced? Re: VESA/VGA BIOS emulation 5 Re: [Q] Create global section and map to file using C   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:57:24 +0100   From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>0 Subject: Re: 497 million euro fine for Microsoft- Message-ID: <cqf4el$28i3$1@news.cybercity.dk>     VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:; > In article <cqepb2$1u3h$1@news.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb"  > <dr@dweeb.com> writes: >> Bob Koehler wrote: H >>> In article <cqceha$ug5$3@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de6 >>> (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: >>> H >>>> I don't like Microsoft software due to the low quality, so I simplyD >>>> don't use it.  I don't really see the point of the proceedings,G >>>> though. Why shouldn't anyone be able to offer anything---say an OS F >>>> with a web browser and media player integrated---take it or leave >>>> it. >>> F >>>    Because the courts don't know how to do anything else about the >>>    situation.  >>@ >> I think this sounds like and arrogant and uninformed opinion. >>? >>> Which may be because the laws covering the situation aren't 
 >>> adequate.  >>D >> The laws are in fact quite adequate, and the US courts have dealtF >> with many complex cases of bundling similar to the MS v DoJ case in@ >> the past.  MS is not the first monopolist company to have its? >> actions reviewed by the courts, and it will not be the last.  >>B >> Do not confuse the power of the the law or the courts, with the? >> execution of that power in a single case.  The courts do, by G >> definition, have considerable flexibility in sentencing.  The courts G >> are also a human endevour, and by definition imperfect - that is why & >> they adjudicate and pass judgement. >>E >> IT people think that the IT world is so complex and technical that A >> the courts are by defninition unable to grasp the concepts and E >> details and are therefore by definition incapable of adjudicating. D >> I would just like to let you know that if you think this way, youC >> would likely be very mistaken.  I would suggest som deeper study G >> into the US anti trust laws and the cases that have been adjudicated E >> in the past as a good starting point.  Try reading the findings of E >> fact from the MS v DoJ case (link in my previous post) and explain ? >> to me how this document demonstrates the courts inability to = >> understand the facts of the case.  The read the judgement.  >  > F > You'd be mistaken if you were to believe that Judge Garrett E. BrownD > United States District Court District of New Jersey was capable ofD > grasping such concept.  This judge is bearly capable of discerning > the difference betweenD > a toaster oven and any computer but has been allowed to decide the	 > fate of ) > many computer technology related cases.  >  >    So whch part of this documentL http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudgex.htm suggests this incapability ??  	 Dr. Dweeb    > --> > http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security? >                       solutions that others only claim to be.  > --. > Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:E >   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software 
 > product!   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:55:06 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 0 Subject: Re: 497 million euro fine for MicrosoftB Message-ID: <1103832554.3da869af10fee4376059d5b478c6a1af@teranews>   Bob Koehler wrote:J >    The US cases are a very good example of how not to do it.  The US wasC >    very close to getting something done about Microsoft until the I >    administration changed and the new administration didn't support the 
 >    effort.    H Mechanically, how did the then new government manage to stop the case ?   I Sort of interesting to look at the EU government. It may be a quagmire of M bureaucracy, but it is probably much harder to corrupt as a unit, you have to N corrupt individual members of parliament. And that is why the EU government isN better able to tackle cases such as Microsoft, or be tough on environment etc.   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Dec 2004 12:37:37 -0800' From: "DL Phillips" <whohe@whoever.com> 0 Subject: Re: 497 million euro fine for MicrosoftC Message-ID: <1103834257.762158.236260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Dr. Dweeb wrote:" > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:= > > In article <cqepb2$1u3h$1@news.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" B > > You'd be mistaken if you were to believe that Judge Garrett E. Brown F > > United States District Court District of New Jersey was capable ofF > > grasping such concept.  This judge is bearly capable of discerning > > the difference betweenF > > a toaster oven and any computer but has been allowed to decide the > > fate of + > > many computer technology related cases.  > > " > So wh=EDch part of this documentA > http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudgex.htm suggests this  incapability > ?? >   A I find the following excerpt from Section II Sub.B Par.30 of that F document (described as the "chicken-and-egg" problem) to be an exampleG of basic understanding that seems to be lacking in much of our industry @ (specifically, our favorite company). As you read it, substitute" "Computer" or "Platform" for "PC".   ##C The overwhelming majority of consumers will only use a PC operating E system for which there already exists a large and varied set of high- F quality, full-featured applications, and for which it seems relativelyC certain that new types of applications and new versions of existing D applications will continue to be marketed at pace with those writtenF for other operating systems. Unfortunately for firms whose products doA not fit that bill, the porting of applications from one operating = system to another is a costly process. Consequently, software E developers generally write applications first, and often exclusively, D for the operating system that is already used by a dominant share ofF all PC users. Users do not want to invest in an operating system untilD it is clear that the system will support generations of applicationsC that will meet their needs, and developers do not want to invest in E writing or quickly porting applications for an operating system until C it is clear that there will be a sizeable and stable market for it.  ##   Hmmm.     -Doug   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:01:19 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 0 Subject: Re: 497 million euro fine for Microsoft, Message-ID: <41CB786F.8040701@tsoft-inc.com>   Bob Koehler wrote:  R > In article <cqepb2$1u3h$1@news.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com> writes: > M >>The laws are in fact quite adequate, and the US courts have dealt with many L >>complex cases of bundling similar to the MS v DoJ case in the past.  MS isN >>not the first monopolist company to have its actions reviewed by the courts, >>and it will not be the last. >> > J >    The US cases are a very good example of how not to do it.  The US wasC >    very close to getting something done about Microsoft until the I >    administration changed and the new administration didn't support the F >    effort.  Which simply shows how much influence politics have over' >    what should be fact-based actions.  >  >   P Well there you have hit that nail squarely.  What good is a law, if the current I people in charge of enforcing the laws will not do their job?  Yeah, the  < election is over, but that's another 'nit' I had with dubya.  P I'm hoping that the case is left hanging, and not finally settled.  Not sure if O it's still open.  But, if open, another administration could 'finish' the case   in a more appropriate manner.    Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:09:28 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 0 Subject: Re: 497 million euro fine for Microsoft, Message-ID: <41CB7A58.6070007@tsoft-inc.com>   JF Mezei wrote:    > Bob Koehler wrote: > J >>   The US cases are a very good example of how not to do it.  The US wasC >>   very close to getting something done about Microsoft until the I >>   administration changed and the new administration didn't support the 
 >>   effort.   >> > J > Mechanically, how did the then new government manage to stop the case ?   # Well, that one is simple to answer.    You get a new attorney general.   5 He calls the lead person on the case into his office.   M He tells that person, we want you working on other things, or instructs that  $ person on how to finish up the case.  L The attorney general isn't elected, he's appointed, so it's much easier for @ those in power to affect what gets prosecuted, and what doesn't.  Q Had a similar case locally.  11 year old kid shot by police.  No weapons on kid.  P   The prosecutors determined the police acted appropriately.  Wonder how I'd be N treated if I shot someone, then claimed that I thought that person had a gun, N and I was in danger.  My guess is that there would need to be a fired weapon, N and a hole in me, and then I'd still be blamed for something.  Those in power M decide what they will prosecute.  We're a society based upon laws, only when   those in power decide so.   ! Dave, who needs to ease up a bit.    ------------------------------    Date: 23 Dec 2004 18:50:03 -0800 From: mcbill20@yahoo.com: Subject: CGI / PHP form posting examples for Apache (CSWS)C Message-ID: <1103856603.930917.285500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   G I recently installed the latest Apache (CSWS) and PHP on my VMS machine C and it works great. I am able to post data from Oracle to web pages F using PHP. However, I would like to add some forms and allow web usersG to interact with the system (change data in Oracle tables, etc.) and am " not sure of the best way to do it.  = Is this possible with PHP or is PHP just for displaying data?   G I know how to write a CGI in C or DCL but I was hoping to use something # that's already there like PHP, etc.   5 Can anyone point me to any examples or documentation?  Thanks.    Bill McLaughlin   	 VMS 7.3-1 	 TCPIP 5.3    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:10:04 -0500 + From: Ken Robinson <kenrbnsn1@patmedia.net> > Subject: Re: CGI / PHP form posting examples for Apache (CSWS)B Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20041223225224.03a22128@mail.patmedia.net>  1 At 09:50 PM 12/23/2004, mcbill20@yahoo.com wrote: H >I recently installed the latest Apache (CSWS) and PHP on my VMS machineD >and it works great. I am able to post data from Oracle to web pagesG >using PHP. However, I would like to add some forms and allow web users H >to interact with the system (change data in Oracle tables, etc.) and am# >not sure of the best way to do it.  > > >Is this possible with PHP or is PHP just for displaying data?  H No, that's the beauty of PHP, you can use it to update databases and/or $ files based on input from the users.    H >I know how to write a CGI in C or DCL but I was hoping to use something$ >that's already there like PHP, etc. > 6 >Can anyone point me to any examples or documentation?  K I don't know of any examples specific to Oracle, but I've written many PHP  / programs to read/updated MySQL database tables.   I I usually use the same program to display and process the form, you just  E take a different path depending on whether the user pressed "Submit".    Some basic pointers:  1 1) On your <form> line should look something like E      <form action="<?php echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] ?>" method="post">   H 2) Each input should be given a name. This name whould be referenced by  your code later."     <input type=text name=example>=      <input type=checkbox name=check[] value="apples"> Apples ?      <input type=checkbox name=check[] value="oranges"> Oranges 3      <input type=submit name=submit value="Hit Me">   / 3) In your code, you would have something like:    <?php I      if (isset($_POST['submit']) && ($_POST['submit'] == 'Hit Me')) { //   take the processing pathO          echo '<pre>'; print_r($_POST);echo '</pre>'; // see what's been posted        } =       if (!isset($_POST['submit'])) { // put out your form ?>  HTML code goes here        <?php } ?>  L If you haven't looked at the PHP manual at <http://www.php.net/>, make sure L you look at it, there are some very good examples there. Also ask questions J in the comp.lang.php newsgroup and on any number of PHP forums on the web.  
 Have fun. :-)    Ken Robinson           ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:14:58 GMT * From: "Paul Lentz" <something@invalid.com>) Subject: Hardware: Wanted Pincer CD caddy ; Message-ID: <6JMyd.8128$wi2.640@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>   L Feeling a need to finally find a way to access my drawer full of VMS cd's onK my fully loaded VAX 4000/500a I bought an old DEC RRD40-DA (external) cdrom E drive on Ebay. I bought the thing cause if it worked at all, it would J fer-sure work with my VAX. Turns out it didn't come with a CD caddy... theH old Pincer kind... but at least I know it works `cause there's already aK AXPDOC972 CD stuck in there in the pincer part of a caddy and it mounts and  reads fine.   9 Anybody got a spare pincer CD caddy they'd let me have???    Thanks!  *Paul*   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Dec 2004 23:52:12 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) - Subject: Re: Hardware: Wanted Pincer CD caddy 3 Message-ID: <zhpdp32JVpEI@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <6JMyd.8128$wi2.640@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, "Paul Lentz" <something@invalid.com> writes:N > Feeling a need to finally find a way to access my drawer full of VMS cd's onM > my fully loaded VAX 4000/500a I bought an old DEC RRD40-DA (external) cdrom G > drive on Ebay. I bought the thing cause if it worked at all, it would L > fer-sure work with my VAX. Turns out it didn't come with a CD caddy... theJ > old Pincer kind... but at least I know it works `cause there's already aM > AXPDOC972 CD stuck in there in the pincer part of a caddy and it mounts and 
 > reads fine.  > ; > Anybody got a spare pincer CD caddy they'd let me have???   % Not all CDROM drives require a caddy.   . The problem is that your equipment is too new.  0 I have a fully operational RRD50, but I need it.  5 For younger folks here, an RRD50 is rated at .3X  :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:42:25 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com 2 Subject: Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development- Message-ID: <87vfassvou.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ( John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes:  D >> In addition to the EV8 team, didn't Intel get the compiler peopleC >> and intellectual property? Who does Steve Lionel work for today?   = > Excuse me, *THE* compiler people?  Who am I, chopped liver?   G Yep, no Pascal in the SPEC suites, or the HPC or TPC numbers, so as far 0 as intel is concerned you can come with fries...  > A load of it IMO, but it is intel who forked up the 30 pieces.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:47:42 GMT % From: Roger Ivie <rivie@ridgenet.net> 2 Subject: Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development3 Message-ID: <slrncsmbpu.e92.rivie@Stench.no.domain>   C On 2004-12-23, prep@prep.synonet.com <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote: * > John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes: > > >> Excuse me, *THE* compiler people?  Who am I, chopped liver? > I > Yep, no Pascal in the SPEC suites, or the HPC or TPC numbers, so as far 2 > as intel is concerned you can come with fries...  I Chopped liver with fries? I'm not certain whether to go "Yum!" or "Ewww!"  --  
 Roger Ivie rivie@ridgenet.net http://anachronda.webhop.org/  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- 
 Version: 3.12 H GCS/P d- s:+++ a+ C++ UB--(++++) !P L- !E W++ N++ o-- K w O- M+ V+++ PS+? PE++ Y+ PGP t+ 5+ X-- R tv++ b++ DI+++ D+ G e++ h--- r+++ z+++   ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:52:01 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 2 Subject: Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development* Message-ID: <41CB7641.80800@tsoft-inc.com>   prep@prep.synonet.com wrote:  * > John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes: >  > D >>>In addition to the EV8 team, didn't Intel get the compiler peopleC >>>and intellectual property? Who does Steve Lionel work for today?  >>>  > = >>Excuse me, *THE* compiler people?  Who am I, chopped liver?  >> > I > Yep, no Pascal in the SPEC suites, or the HPC or TPC numbers, so as far 2 > as intel is concerned you can come with fries... > @ > A load of it IMO, but it is intel who forked up the 30 pieces. >  >   K This issue has caused me to ask the question, "What did/does Intel want?".  ! Perhaps John can comment on this.   M Steve Lionel is a Fortran guy, at least from the posts I've read.  So, Intel  Q appears to be interested in Fortran.  I'm going to guess that they (Intel) would  + also be interested in C, and perhaps Cobol.   L I've seen recent posts from Ed Vogal (spelling?), on questions about C, who N appears to still be with HP.  Maybe he had BASIC tatooed on his forehead.  :-)  M John, can you comment on the people who moved to Intel, with respect to what  O languages they worked with?  Can you comment on what Intel may have wanted/not   wanted?    Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:24:04 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 2 Subject: Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development, Message-ID: <J5GdnZrcYYNPFlbcRVn-gg@igs.net>   Dave Froble wrote: > prep@prep.synonet.com wrote: > + >> John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes:  >> >>F >>>> In addition to the EV8 team, didn't Intel get the compiler peopleE >>>> and intellectual property? Who does Steve Lionel work for today?  >>>> >>? >>> Excuse me, *THE* compiler people?  Who am I, chopped liver?  >>>  >>F >> Yep, no Pascal in the SPEC suites, or the HPC or TPC numbers, so as7 >> far as intel is concerned you can come with fries...  >>A >> A load of it IMO, but it is intel who forked up the 30 pieces.  >> >> > D > This issue has caused me to ask the question, "What did/does Intel+ > want?". Perhaps John can comment on this.  > C > Steve Lionel is a Fortran guy, at least from the posts I've read. D > So, Intel appears to be interested in Fortran.  I'm going to guessE > that they (Intel) would also be interested in C, and perhaps Cobol.  > F > I've seen recent posts from Ed Vogal (spelling?), on questions aboutD > C, who appears to still be with HP.  Maybe he had BASIC tatooed on > his forehead.  :-) > F > John, can you comment on the people who moved to Intel, with respectD > to what languages they worked with?  Can you comment on what Intel > may have wanted/not wanted?     L Fortran these days generally equates to high-performance technical computing   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:49:42 GMT   From: CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net>2 Subject: Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development* Message-ID: <41CB91D7.8040806@prodigy.net>   Dave Froble wrote: > prep@prep.synonet.com wrote: > + >> John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes:  >> >>F >>>> In addition to the EV8 team, didn't Intel get the compiler peopleE >>>> and intellectual property? Who does Steve Lionel work for today?  >>>> >>? >>> Excuse me, *THE* compiler people?  Who am I, chopped liver?  >>>  >>J >> Yep, no Pascal in the SPEC suites, or the HPC or TPC numbers, so as far3 >> as intel is concerned you can come with fries...  >>A >> A load of it IMO, but it is intel who forked up the 30 pieces.  >> >> > E > This issue has caused me to ask the question, "What did/does Intel  + > want?". Perhaps John can comment on this.  > I > Steve Lionel is a Fortran guy, at least from the posts I've read.  So,  K > Intel appears to be interested in Fortran.  I'm going to guess that they  ; > (Intel) would also be interested in C, and perhaps Cobol.  > J > I've seen recent posts from Ed Vogal (spelling?), on questions about C, F > who appears to still be with HP.  Maybe he had BASIC tatooed on his  > forehead.  :-) > J > John, can you comment on the people who moved to Intel, with respect to K > what languages they worked with?  Can you comment on what Intel may have   > wanted/not wanted? >  > Dave >   Was Intel pulling or HP pushing?   --  D The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt toC minimize spam.  Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:00:46 GMT * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>2 Subject: Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development2 Message-ID: <OvMyd.4965$7j4.2482@news.cpqcorp.net>  B "Was" good Larry.  HP consolidated its meal services.  Now we haveJ kind-of-OK food, at prices that make you want to go out to lunch ($5 for a soup and ice tea).  + Of course, I remember Tomain Tobins too ;-)     : "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:7nUcX4cNuS1V@eisner.encompasserve.org... < > In article <Xns95C7C15DCA516nn48@199.125.85.9>, Lee Witten <lw99@yahoo.com> writes:4 > > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in/ > > news:NGq+6hFmYXdn@eisner.encompasserve.org: I > >> So you deny all those vicious rumors that Intel forbids them to have  > >> lunch ? > >>- > >> There goes my story for the Inquirer :-)  > > H > > No, the real story should be that Intel forces them to eat in the ZKL > > cafeteria!  That is the truly vicious part!  That's one nasty cafeteria! > G > My impression is that it is pretty good compared to other New England > > industrial cafeterias.  And what a classy name - Chez Zeke !   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:04:51 GMT * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>2 Subject: Re: HP pulls out of IA64 chip development2 Message-ID: <DzMyd.4966$1f4.4609@news.cpqcorp.net>  3 "John Reagan" <john.reagan@hp.com> wrote in message , news:Lejyd.4891$Mb3.3709@news.cpqcorp.net... > Bob Kaplow wrote:  >  > >  > > I > > In addition to the EV8 team, didn't Intel get the compiler people and @ > > intellectual property? Who does Steve Lionel work for today? > >  > = > Excuse me, *THE* compiler people?  Who am I, chopped liver?   @ Now, now.  I've seen many wonderful chopped liver sculptures ;-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:49:27 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com  Subject: Re: More on Tru64- Message-ID: <87r7lgsvd4.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   # Lee Witten <lw99@yahoo.com> writes:   A > To tie back to the earlier comments, AIX 3 always had a dynamic E > loader so you never needed a compiler to add modules to the kernel. A > This, amongst many other reasons, made it hard to port AIX 3 to F > processors other than the RS/6000, because you had to make a dynamicB > loader and corresponding linker before you could get much of the@ > kernel to run.  But in fact it was done for at least two otherE > platforms: Intel 386/486 micros and IBM ESA mainframes.  Neither of   > these ever made it to product.  C > All the BSD-like UNIXes have the problem of needing a compiler to C > rebuild the kernel when you want to add a module.  This makes the F > bean counters mad, they don't like to have to give away the compiler > with the operating system.  C AIX and T64 are the two OSF based comercial unix offerings, so they E have that from the common base. Also, T64 comes with a GOOD compiler, A for a C value of good anyway ;), not the half arsed pile of brain D death you get with PHUX. PHUX's optimising linker is nice if you can use it though.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:08:57 GMT * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>0 Subject: Re: Needed graphical Driver information2 Message-ID: <tDMyd.4967$sj4.2113@news.cpqcorp.net>  J I'm lucky if I remember all the Birthdays of loved ones, let alone antiqueJ and obscure VAX graphics drivers.  The GPX driver does little but manage a< queue of drawing packets and the mouse pointer and colormap.  > In any case.  What is it that you *really* want to know about.    H "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:CvKOuPXkSlSg@eisner.encompasserve.org... < > In article <USYxd.4837$4f2.3174@news.cpqcorp.net>, "FredK"$ <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> writes:G > > I don't remember their ever being a "GAADRIVER".  GADRIVER was if I I > > remember, the GPX driver for VAX.  I think there was also a GABDRIVER  (from J > > some distant memory) from the Open3D Alpha software, but perhaps there was a $ > > GAA, my memory is getting stale. >  > On my VAX (VMS 6.2): >  > $ dir sys$loadable_images:ga*  >   > Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR] > % > GAADRIVER.EXE;1     GABDRIVER.EXE;1  >  > Total of 2 files.  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:00:09 +0100 (CET) % From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>  Subject: Re: Thank You8 Message-ID: <729ae3751804a9e290adcb1ccf5130b5@dizum.com>  ) JF Mezei <jfmezei@teksavvy.com> driveled:   # >susan_skonetski@hotmail.com wrote: H >> ours to do what you believed was the right thing.  Because of the wayJ >> you are, it makes us want to do more and do it better, its your support- >> that makes the difference because of you,   >  > M >And Sue, it is because of your dedication,  drive and a great big heart that O >we are motivated to push for VMS at our employers/customers. You give us hope.   6 Employers/customers?  For you???  You're dreamin'.....  E JF, you've masturbated so much you not only went blind, you lost your 
 mind also!  F >Great big hug to you and a very merry christmas and a happy new year.   *** GAG!!! ***   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:02:01 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> + Subject: Re: TruCluster/AdvFS open-sourced? , Message-ID: <85Sdnck7r_y6i1bcRVn-sA@igs.net>   Bob Koehler wrote:; > In article <2IidncP1vrvwc1fcRVn-qQ@igs.net>, "John Smith"  > <a@nonymous.com> writes: >>/ >> Linux does not sell.....support services do.  > A >    Actually hardware to run Linux, as well as support services, < >    but this is not important to the corporate bottom line. > F >> I'd much rather have an operating system that costs real money that9 >> works and spend less time on the phone with 'support'.  > E >    Me, too.  But stealth marketing still doesn't work and that does & >    affect the corporate bottom line.    I See below according to a report on Bloomberg yesterday - note the average D selling price and the uncertainty of the business model - indeed anyH company's business model of selling 'open source'. It's going to be just6 like the boom and bust of the .com era of 5 years ago.  I That said, I bet more companies would by Linux from Red Hat before they'd ! consider HP as a vendor of Linux.     6 "Soaring Linux sales double Red Hat profit for quarter      H Raleigh, n.c.-Red Hat Inc., the world's biggest distributor of the LinuxH computer-operating system, said yesterday third-quarter profit more thanK doubled as sales rose 55 per cent, falling short of estimates for the third  straight quarter.   G Net income rose to $10.8 million (U.S.), or 6 cents a share, from $4.26 F million, or 2 cents, a year earlier, the Raleigh, North Carolina-based company said in a statement.  D Sales for the quarter ended Nov. 30 rose to $50.9 million from $32.9L million, missing the $51.8 million average estimate of 16 analysts polled by Thomson First Call.   I Red Hat's sales are rising as Linux gains popularity as an alternative to C Microsoft Corp.'s Windows and other companies' versions of the Unix I operating system. Red Hat's prices, which are declining amid discounting, B worry some analysts. Prices were cut 25 per cent to 50 per cent asL competition increased last quarter, said UBS AG analyst Heather Bellini in a client note.  C "It's unclear how their business model works with prices falling so J rapidly," said Brendan Barnicle, an analyst at Pacific Crest Securities in8 Portland, Oregon, who rates the shares "sector perform."  L "We really don't have any way of knowing how much the pricing could continue1 to decline on Linux, and they don't know either."   I Red Hat's average price on Linux has fallen to about $400 from $1,200 two L years ago, analyst Katherine Egbert at Jefferies & Co. in San Francisco said
 in September.   G The shares fell 50 cents to $14.57 in after-hours trading following the  release of the earnings report.   F On the Nasdaq Stock Market in New York, the shares declined 6 cents to) $15.07 at the close of regular trading. "    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:13:58 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> + Subject: Re: TruCluster/AdvFS open-sourced? ' Message-ID: <41CB3516.6080308@MMaz.com>    John Smith wrote:    >Bob Koehler wrote:  >    > ; >>In article <reqdncwCgI_2IVTcRVn-og@igs.net>, "John Smith"  >><a@nonymous.com> writes: >>     >>C >>>They already have a fully functional highly debugged unix called F >>>Tru64 to sell so why would they want to suffer through the bugs andB >>>integration headaches of shoehorning TruCluster into Linux - itD >>>would probably require kernel changes which could bugger up other
 >>>things.	 >>>        >>> H >>   DEC and Compaq have already proved that Tru64 (digital UNIX, OSF/1)F >>   doesn't sell.  It may be no fault of Tru64, and totally the faultE >>   of bad marketing, but the record is there.  That failure was why 7 >>   Curly started talking to Carly in the first place.  >>D >>   I don't think HP is going to rush out to challenge that record.5 >>   Linux sells, that's a record they will seek out.  >>     >> >  > - >Linux does not sell.....support services do. J >I'd much rather have an operating system that costs real money that works1 >and spend less time on the phone with 'support'.  >    > G And how much time exactly have you spent on Linux phone support?  BTW,  4 how many Linux servers did you say you have running?  H I have seven, have never had to call phone support and have only had to F Google or post to a forum for answers to questions in the early years  (more than six years ago)...   Barry    --    < Barry Treahy, Jr                     E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com< Midwest Microwave, Inc.                  Phone: 480/314-1320< Vice President & CIO                      FAX:  480/661-7028  I                        ... but it's a DRY HEAT!                              ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:15:23 GMT * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>$ Subject: Re: VESA/VGA BIOS emulation2 Message-ID: <vJMyd.4968$_g4.4607@news.cpqcorp.net>  L The BIOS emulation in the SRM console was done purely as a way to do genericK text console.  I asked them for an Int 10 emulation at some point - because G I was so tired of trying to figure out how to reverse engineer a device / initialization.  But I never ended up using it.   I A lot of x86 BIOS code is really, really bad.  Vendors took every liberty K they could find.  So the BIOS emulation seemed to be a job of fixing things 
 as they went.       ? "Chip Coldwell" <coldwell@physics.harvard.edu> wrote in message ? news:Pine.LNX.4.61.0412211623110.27727@localhost.localdomain... # > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, FredK wrote:  > K > > I'm not sure who I could direct your question to.  Most of the guys who  did L > > this work have long ago moved on to other companies.  The callbacks were put G > > in, in part, due to a request I made.  However, they didn't show up  until G > > too late for me to use them (I had moved on to other things).  It's  quite L > > likely that they have never been fully tested.  I'll poke around and see ifG > > I have anything still around that spells out how to use parameters.  > ' > Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it.  > > > Like I said, I have been using the BIOS_EMUL callback to setH > VESA-standard video modes, including the extended modes defined in theC > VBE 3.0 document, and that does work.  I would guess that the SRM H > itself must be using the BIOS emulation in order to set a text mode soE > it can use the video device for the operator console.  (Although in F > principle it could set up the VGA registers without using the BIOS.) >  > Chip >  > --   > Charles M. "Chip" Coldwell > System Administrator > Harvard Physics Department > 617-495-3388 >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:36:32 -0500 = From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@nfw-invalid.cibtrikker.com> > Subject: Re: [Q] Create global section and map to file using C1 Message-ID: <6P2dncwzdNGyjVbcRVn-iw@adelphia.com>   5 "Colin Blake" <colin@theblakes.com> wrote in message  + news:bpWdnWfN8c_1LlfcRVn-vA@adelphia.com...  > Try changing:  >  > struct FAB fab;  >  >  to  >  > struct FAB fab = cc$rms_fab; >  > Colin.  M I think Colin hit it on the head.  Initialize the FAB before you fill in the   fields.    (John puts on RMS hat)  M If RMS sees fab$w_ifi as non-zero, that's the error you will get on $create.  M Apparently the stack location under that field is non-zero, and initializing  & the FAB will ensure that's it's clear.   -John    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.712 ************************