0 INFO-VAX	Mon, 09 Feb 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 78      Contents:0 Re: Canadian Troll infestation in rec.travel.air0 Re: Canadian Troll infestation in rec.travel.air Re: CXX patches - where are?1 Re: Humongus bug in DECTERM (postscript printing) $ Re: J F complains he can't troll !!!  J F complains he can't troll !!! J F: A Portrait of Victimhood * Re: Mail /PERS cannot start with a number?- Re: need to get cluster impersonator from DCL - Re: need to get cluster impersonator from DCL  Re: new TCPIP patch for 5.3  Re: new TCPIP patch for 5.3  Re: new TCPIP patch for 5.3  Re: new TCPIP patch for 5.3  Newbie looking for help  Re: Newbie looking for help  Re: Newbie looking for help  Re: OT Spam 
 Respond Mezei  Re: Respond Mezei  Re: Shannon on Itanium The JF Mezei FAQ is here!! Re: Vaxstation some question...  Re: Why was VAX abandoned ?  Re: Why was VAX abandonned ? Re: Why was VAX abandonned ? Re: Why was VAX abandonned ? Re: Why was VAX abandonned ? Re: Why was VAX abandonned ? Re: Why was VAX abandonned ?0 Re: [TCPIP V5.4] IFCONFIG vs. SET/SHOW INTERFACE  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:37:17 GMT ! From: devil <devil@attglobal.net> 9 Subject: Re: Canadian Troll infestation in rec.travel.air : Message-ID: <pan.2004.02.08.18.37.16.465977@attglobal.net>  4 On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:21:16 +0000, GreyCloud wrote:   > Ian Phillips wrote:  > < >>   Or perhaps poor USA so close to God's country - Canada! >>   > ( > But it's so cold up there.  BRRRRR!!!!   Really?   J Only once in a while.  How can you keep your snow otherwise?  Anyway, it's4 not so hard to keep your pool at 80F or so.  27-28C.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 14:46:17 +1030( From: "Freda" <freda2340@oldhotmail.com>9 Subject: Re: Canadian Troll infestation in rec.travel.air * Message-ID: <c06tv8$gsn$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>  : But do they have the massive debt of the USD which is fast3 becoming a 3rd world economy under the Texan idiot.  Freda    --  6 Please reply to the list as my email address is a fake3 "Ian Phillips" <cactusjoe@shaw.ca> wrote in message ( news:TcfVb.417135$JQ1.177255@pd7tw1no...; >   Or perhaps poor USA so close to God's country - Canada!  >  >   Ian  > D >   "Mike O'sullivan" <mike.osullivan3@nowhere.com> wrote in message. > news:bvgunr$2ar$1@hercules.btinternet.com... >   > 6 >   > "edo" <nobody@cryptorebels.net> wrote in message? >   > news:ace8b8aaabac68b63bd3c695e5da05b6@cryptorebels.net...  >   > > K >   > > It's envy, mostly.  Having to live so close to the US that they can  >   > practically K >   > > smell the abundance and success yet not being able to enjoy it.  It  > just >   > kills 
 >   > > them.  >   > D >   > "Poor Canada, so far from God, so close to the United States"! >   >  >   >  >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Feb 2004 19:35:00 -0800 1 From: usenet_vms@lehrerfamily.com (Joshua Lehrer) % Subject: Re: CXX patches - where are? < Message-ID: <477e0934.0402081935.d9b6d63@posting.google.com>  n Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> wrote in message news:<c00pv4$gm1$1@bozon2.softax.com.pl>...K > I've just installed CXX 6.5-004 on OpenVMS 7.3.-1. When I compile my old   > CXX files compiler dies withK > access violation. Are there any patches for CXX? And where? I can't find   > CXX patch on ITRC. >   C I'm curious how many shops out there do a significant amount of C++  development on VMS.   D We do a LOT and have found quite a few bugs in the compiler.  HP has> been supportive and fixed many of them, or explained why a few couldn't get fixed.   C We are fortunate that the compiler is one of the best wrt standards ? compliance, mostly due to their using a the Edison Design Group ? front-end parser.  The next version (6.6?) uses the lastest and @ greatest EDG parser, which is about as compliant as you can get.  F We are running a release much higher than -004.  (For various reasons,F I'd rather not say the exact rev).  There have been quite a few usefulE fixes between -004 and -020 and beyond.  Most of the fixes related to C templates<>, and one or two had something to do with the optimizer.   
 joshua lehrer  factset research systems NYSE:FDS   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:12:29 GMT 0 From: "Stephen Eickhoff" <operagost@example.com>: Subject: Re: Humongus bug in DECTERM (postscript printing)8 Message-ID: <18BVb.35298$EH5.26508@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>  0 "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> wrote in message3 news:BQKNb.44442$VV4.13220@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...  > 7 > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message % > news:40066411.15900218@istop.com... > > > Digital/Compaq/HP are guilty of destroying a whole forest. > A > If you really want to see destroying a forest, look at what the B > Government/Military does.  What you are describing is nothing in comparison. G > I had several printers that printed 24 hours a day for 7 days strait.  TheyD > only time that they stopped was when you changed out the paper, or ribbons.G > In the early incarnation, there was a blank page printed between each  singleJ > page report so that it could be read easier.  Now that is wasting paper!  I Nah, the sysadmin probably forgot to set NOFEED ... or to use the HPRESET  form ...   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:49:31 +1100& From: "Ozzie Roo" <ozzieroo@sfa.blorg>- Subject: Re: J F complains he can't troll !!! ' Message-ID: <c06hui$217$0@pita.alt.net>   ; "starwars" <nobody@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote in message ? news:94a64b3fae8b4d2b3dc8f093bfd11aa9@tatooine.homelinux.net... F > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> complained that he can't troll: > K > >I don't want to get into specifics yet, but has anyone else being seeing  odd - > >behaviour of ISTOP's inbound mail system ?  > > L > >I sent an email to support in the wee hours of the monring when I noticed it, @ > >but it is still happening. Guess Ralph went out to ski today. > F > Awww.... poor baby!  Up in the wee hours of the morning and he can't troll! > H > Did it ever occur to you that maybe Ralph has a *job* like most normal people/ > and is out enjoying himself on the weekend???  > E > Maybe if you actually got out of your porn filled basement, stopped  wanking for K > a few hours, and actually got a *job* you wouldn't be up in the wee hours  of the > morning itching to troll...   C Wot???  Mezei ain't got a job???  I always thought he was the night # attendant at the adult video store.   5 "It's a dirty job but somebody's got to do it."  >:->     = > *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*  >  > / >                          ====================  > . >                             THE JF MEZEI FAQ > / >                          ====================  >  >  > 1.  Who is JF Mezei? > I > Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit L > rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the+ > longest running trolls in usenet history.  > $ > 2.  How long has he been trolling? >  > For well over a decade.  >  > 3.  Where does he live?  >  > Jean-Francois Mezei  > 86 Harwood Gate  > Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3  > (514) 695-8259 > , > 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll? > J > His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourL > newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and dayF > out, every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listenL > to pleas to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he doesF > not pay attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts isK > corrected, he just goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little H > child holding his ears closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear > anything you say!" >  > 5.  What does he troll about?  > H > His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  HeK > hates the USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a J > USA-bashing fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd > posts. > & > 6.  What does he hate about the USA? > I > Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a E > visceral hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a J > happier, better, more successful version of their country and they can'tH > stand it.  Some of JF's favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "theK > Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars = > are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.  > % > 7.  What about his sexual trolling?  > G > Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre. K > Among his favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, H > sex toys, circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list
 > is endless.  >  > 8.  Circumcision???  > K > Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes to K > insert circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF K > was traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants I > to Canada, left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in I > most of the world.  Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision  was K > prevalent at the time, he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As J > soon as he could he arranged to get himself snipped, and then joined theI > brigades of circumcision proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the L > joys of a free willy.  His main argument is how much better he was able toL > masturbate after getting circumcised without that "pesky foreskin" gettingH > in the way of his enjoyment, and he has made it his mission in life to! > spread the circumcision gospel.  > J > 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky. > K > Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects I > dear to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially K > little boy's foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens. L > He is also a tireless activist and advocate that children should be taughtL > to masturbate early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like
 > Americans".  > G > He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their L > little boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, properI > movement, and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia  for E > JF would be a world full of parents manipulating their little boys' 
 > penises. > J > 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!$ > Are you sure about all this stuff? > F > Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade" > full of Mezei trolling in there. > J > 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time > like all trolls do?  > D > Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling
 > aliases. > I > 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?  > G > Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a  grown J > man who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls theL > newsgroups all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes toJ > ride his bike down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in > his bike.  > ; > 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?  > J > Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never gotK > past the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull D > my finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow. > K > 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them,  > is that true?  > I > Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker L > room.  He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in lockerJ > rooms over the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.L > He stalks the men in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin theyE > have, or how little is left if they have been circumcised.  He gets 5 > extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.  > I > 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane 	 > asylum!  > K > Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil L > hat world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF isG > that he sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, : > especially the USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about. > F > What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail systemH > was "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spottingL > trains, writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yardF > like a good freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major eventsJ > that made him fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy ofH > Canadian Airlines and their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he seesG > as evil).  So paranoid is he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he H > claimed that Air Canada employees went lurking about in the night withJ > buckets of white paint to cover up the Air Canada markings.  He saw that asL > symbolic of a cover up of the crash investigation.  He has never recovered > from this. > 8 > 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him! > H > His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to someG > ancient, arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken J > seriously for decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and socialK > dropouts who share his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax & > days of yore.  It's really pathetic! > # > 17.  Where else does he hang out?  > K > can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer I > groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the C > sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it L > relentlessly with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famousI > for.  But they ran him off that group and he had to go crawling back to A > comp.os.vms with his tail between his legs, licking his wounds.  > K > 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't  > troll. > K > Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he F > slips in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respectsC > comp.os.vms, and, more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling I > activities from them so they won't find out what a major netkook he is.  > K > 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of  > psycho he is!  > G > Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while H > you're at it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.; > And to alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and  > news.admin.net-abuse.usenet. > 6 > 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address? > J > Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to: >  > abuse@sympatico.ca > abuse@bellglobal.com > abuse@istop.com  > L > And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, emailJ > it to people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapersL > and magazines that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or > Canada, etc. >  >  > *** APPENDIX *** > I > List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. J > This is only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a > full list. >  > jfmezei@istop.com  > jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com  > jfmezei@videotron.ca > jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca  > nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca   > "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam] >  > nobody <nobody@nobody.com> > nobody <nobody@nobody.net> > nobody <nobody@nobody.org> > nobody <nobody@nobody.info>  > nobody <nobody@nobody.int> > nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  > nobody <nobody@null.dev>% > snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree> + > Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> ( > Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>& > Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>' > Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  > Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>' > Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> $ > Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>& > Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>/ > Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ) > Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> $ > Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> > Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ) > Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> * > Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>( > Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org>! > Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ) > Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> ' > Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  > Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org> # > Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> % > Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org> " > Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>& > Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>( > Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>& > Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>, > Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org>  > Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org># > Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org> ! > Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> & > Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org># > Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> # > Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org> " > Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>& > Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org>  > Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>' > Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org> ' > Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org> & > Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> > Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> ( > Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>* > Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>' > Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> ' > Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org> ( > Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>, > Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>( > Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>) > Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ) > Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> * > Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>. > Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>0 > Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> > Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil> ) > Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> ' > Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> & > Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>$ > Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>( > Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org>% > Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> * > Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>' > Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org> $ > Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>' > Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> ( > Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>) > Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> + > Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org> ) > Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> $ > Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>* > Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>. > George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>- > Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> , > Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>* > Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>) > Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org> , > Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org>! > T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  > Q <queue@continuum.net>  > Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>, > Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>+ > John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>  > = > *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon,  9 Feb 2004 00:38:58 +0100 (CET) . From: starwars <nobody@tatooine.homelinux.net>) Subject: J F complains he can't troll !!! E Message-ID: <94a64b3fae8b4d2b3dc8f093bfd11aa9@tatooine.homelinux.net>   D JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> complained that he can't troll:  M >I don't want to get into specifics yet, but has anyone else being seeing odd + >behaviour of ISTOP's inbound mail system ?  > N >I sent an email to support in the wee hours of the monring when I noticed it,> >but it is still happening. Guess Ralph went out to ski today.  K Awww.... poor baby!  Up in the wee hours of the morning and he can't troll!   M Did it ever occur to you that maybe Ralph has a *job* like most normal people - and is out enjoying himself on the weekend???   O Maybe if you actually got out of your porn filled basement, stopped wanking for P a few hours, and actually got a *job* you wouldn't be up in the wee hours of the morning itching to troll...   ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*     -                          ====================   ,                             THE JF MEZEI FAQ  -                          ====================      1.  Who is JF Mezei?  G Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit J rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the) longest running trolls in usenet history.   " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.    3.  Where does he live?    Jean-Francois Mezei  86 Harwood Gate  Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3  (514) 695-8259  * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  H His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourJ newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and dayK out, every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listen J to pleas to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he doesD not pay attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts isI corrected, he just goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little K child holding his ears closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear  anything you say!"   5.  What does he troll about?   F His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  HeI hates the USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a H USA-bashing fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.  $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  G Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a C visceral hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a H happier, better, more successful version of their country and they can'tF stand it.  Some of JF's favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "theI Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars ; are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.   # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?   E Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre. I Among his favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, K sex toys, circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list  is endless.    8.  Circumcision???   I Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes to I insert circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF I was traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants G to Canada, left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in K most of the world.  Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was I prevalent at the time, he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As H soon as he could he arranged to get himself snipped, and then joined theG brigades of circumcision proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the J joys of a free willy.  His main argument is how much better he was able toJ masturbate after getting circumcised without that "pesky foreskin" gettingF in the way of his enjoyment, and he has made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.   H 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.  I Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects G dear to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially I little boy's foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens. J He is also a tireless activist and advocate that children should be taughtJ to masturbate early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".   E He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their J little boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, properK movement, and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia for C JF would be a world full of parents manipulating their little boys'  penises.  H 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!" Are you sure about all this stuff?  K Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade   full of Mezei trolling in there.  H 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like all trolls do?   K Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling  aliases.  G 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?   K Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a grown H man who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls theJ newsgroups all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes toK ride his bike down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in 	 his bike.   9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?   H Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never gotI past the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull K my finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.   I 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, 
 is that true?   G Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker J room.  He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in lockerH rooms over the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.J He stalks the men in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin theyC have, or how little is left if they have been circumcised.  He gets 3 extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.   G 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane  asylum!   I Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil J hat world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF isE that he sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, 8 especially the USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.  K What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system F was "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spottingJ trains, writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yardK like a good freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major events H that made him fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy ofK Canadian Airlines and their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees E as evil).  So paranoid is he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he F claimed that Air Canada employees went lurking about in the night withK buckets of white paint to cover up the Air Canada markings.  He saw that as J symbolic of a cover up of the crash investigation.  He has never recovered
 from this.  6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  F His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to someE ancient, arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken H seriously for decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and socialI dropouts who share his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax $ days of yore.  It's really pathetic!  ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?   I can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer G groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the A sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it J relentlessly with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famousG for.  But they ran him off that group and he had to go crawling back to ? comp.os.vms with his tail between his legs, licking his wounds.   I 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't  troll.  I Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he D slips in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respectsA comp.os.vms, and, more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling G activities from them so they won't find out what a major netkook he is.   I 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of 
 psycho he is!   E Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while K you're at it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too. 9 And to alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and  news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.  4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  H Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   abuse@sympatico.ca abuse@bellglobal.com abuse@istop.com   J And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, emailH it to people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapersJ and magazines that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.     *** APPENDIX ***  G List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. H This is only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a
 full list.   jfmezei@istop.com  jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com  jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca  nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca  "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>  nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  nobody <nobody@null.dev># snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree> ) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> & Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> " Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> " Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> ( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> % Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org> ! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> # Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>   Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>  Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> $ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> ! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>   Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org> % Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org> $ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> & Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> % Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org> & Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> ( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil> ' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> % Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> $ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> ( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org> " Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> & Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> ) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org> ' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> " Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> * Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org> * Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  Q <queue@continuum.net>n Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>g  ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*t   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon,  9 Feb 2004 00:08:17 +0100 (CET)a. From: starwars <nobody@tatooine.homelinux.net>& Subject: J F: A Portrait of VictimhoodE Message-ID: <cc1ea305046325c6943a6e2f0fb973f4@tatooine.homelinux.net>.  C Gregory Morrow <gregorymorrowTOHAVEANDHAVENOT@earthlink.net> wrote:    >I am *humbled*...lol ;--) >iL >[At least JF won't ask me "May I call you Ellen?"...he's already 'round the* >bend thinking that I am his "nemesis"...]  A Yes ... typical of his habit of over-dramatizing, by using a verysI negatively-charged word like "nemesis".  Ever the victim, JF sees himself?G as this poor little innocent soul who is being tormented by the big bad  meanies.  B The key to understanding JF is understanding his need to wallow in. victimhood.  Read all about it in his FAQ. :-)  K (Maybe you can pass along a copy of it to your FA friend at UA and they caneJ print it up in their onboard magazine.  Would make for some fun reading on those long-hauls to Asia. ;-) )     -                          ====================3  ,                             THE JF MEZEI FAQ  -                          ====================i     1.  Who is JF Mezei?  G Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit J rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the) longest running trolls in usenet history.o  " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.-   3.  Where does he live?    Jean-Francois Mezei7 86 Harwood Gatee Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3. (514) 695-8259  * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  H His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourJ newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and dayK out, every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listen J to pleas to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he doesD not pay attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts isI corrected, he just goes right on trolling year in, year out like a littlenK child holding his ears closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear  anything you say!"   5.  What does he troll about?n  F His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  HeI hates the USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into ahH USA-bashing fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.  $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  G Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a C visceral hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a-H happier, better, more successful version of their country and they can'tF stand it.  Some of JF's favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "theI Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Carsi; are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.c  # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?   E Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre. I Among his favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, K sex toys, circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the listo is endless.o   8.  Circumcision???n  I Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes tofI insert circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JFrI was traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrantspG to Canada, left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom insK most of the world.  Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision waseI prevalent at the time, he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As H soon as he could he arranged to get himself snipped, and then joined theG brigades of circumcision proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the J joys of a free willy.  His main argument is how much better he was able toJ masturbate after getting circumcised without that "pesky foreskin" gettingF in the way of his enjoyment, and he has made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.   H 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.  I Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects8G dear to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially I little boy's foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.MJ He is also a tireless activist and advocate that children should be taughtJ to masturbate early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".y  E He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check theirtJ little boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, properK movement, and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia fornC JF would be a world full of parents manipulating their little boys'b penises.  H 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!" Are you sure about all this stuff?  K Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decadeo  full of Mezei trolling in there.  H 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like all trolls do?O  K Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling  aliases.  G 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?>  K Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a growntH man who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls theJ newsgroups all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes toK ride his bike down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway inn	 his bike.t  9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?   H Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never gotI past the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull K my finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.   I 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them,a
 is that true?   G Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the lockertJ room.  He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in lockerH rooms over the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.J He stalks the men in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin theyC have, or how little is left if they have been circumcised.  He getsR3 extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.   G 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insaneH asylum!I  I Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil J hat world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF isE that he sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, 8 especially the USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.  K What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail systemaF was "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spottingJ trains, writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yardK like a good freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major events,H that made him fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy ofK Canadian Airlines and their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he seesrE as evil).  So paranoid is he that when an Air Canada plane crashed heoF claimed that Air Canada employees went lurking about in the night withK buckets of white paint to cover up the Air Canada markings.  He saw that ashJ symbolic of a cover up of the crash investigation.  He has never recovered
 from this.  6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  F His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to someE ancient, arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has takencH seriously for decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and socialI dropouts who share his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vaxh$ days of yore.  It's really pathetic!  ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?r  I can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computeryG groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded theoA sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled ittJ relentlessly with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famousG for.  But they ran him off that group and he had to go crawling back tol? comp.os.vms with his tail between his legs, licking his wounds.l  I 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn'tz troll.  I Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he D slips in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respectsA comp.os.vms, and, more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling G activities from them so they won't find out what a major netkook he is.e  I 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of 
 psycho he is!a  E Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while K you're at it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too..9 And to alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and  news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.  4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  H Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   abuse@sympatico.ca abuse@bellglobal.com abuse@istop.comn  J And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, emailH it to people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapersJ and magazines that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.     *** APPENDIX ***  G List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years.nH This is only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a
 full list.   jfmezei@istop.comi jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com  jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.cay nospam.jfmezei@videotron.cah "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>t nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  nobody <nobody@null.dev># snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree>l) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org>f& Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>U Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org>r" Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com>e' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com>n" Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> ( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> % Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org>e! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> # Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>r  Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>  Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> $ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> ! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>n  Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org>c% Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org>a$ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> & Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org>c% Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org>h& Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org>r( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil>o' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> % Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> $ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum>I( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org>w" Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org>h& Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>r) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org>n' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>h" Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> * Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org> * Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>o Q <queue@continuum.net>u Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>n  ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*W   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:27:35 -0500s$ From: Hein <hein_cov@eps.zk.dec.com>3 Subject: Re: Mail /PERS cannot start with a number?x. Message-ID: <40272856.F04958B9@eps.zk.dec.com>   JF Mezei wrote:s   > "Bradford J. Hamilton" wrote:oP > > It would be nice, of course, if the same information were duplicated in HELP: > > MAIL/PERS (and HELP/MESS ILLPERNAM), as you suggest... > O > I am curious. What in the VMS mail logic/system would require that a personalhP > name start with a special/restricted character (as opposed to any character) ?  M In order not to confuse it with the timestamp as parsed by  simpleminded code P (like good ol Nmail). It is not a problem in the VMSmail code, but the potentialA to have mutliple/older/frozen users of the same mail-11 protocol.kL An old RSX, Ultrix or RSTS-11 box perhaps. Admittedly this will be of littleP or no concern to most of us, but if you still have one ot those running, happilyF receiving mail, you would not want a 'cute' personal name break it no? :-).   See old note below....   Hein.r  N ------------------------------------------------------------------------------N Note 264.5                   Illegal personal name?                    5 of 19N MU::PORTER "dave porter"                           15 lines  23-MAR-1987 11:59N ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : E     The point here is that the stuff in quotes is NOT JUST A PERSONAL 2     NAME FIELD.  Its full syntax is something like  >         <quote><personal name><space><space><timestamp><quote>  F     Now, you might argue that that's lousy syntax, but it's the syntaxB     that various bits and pieces of code around the net adhere to.  F     So we're left with the problem of trying to make sure that any oldB     trash inserted in the <personal name> part doesn't confuse any     software recipient.pN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Feb 2004 12:53:05 -0800h. From: alexdaniels@themail.co.uk (Alex Daniels)6 Subject: Re: need to get cluster impersonator from DCL= Message-ID: <9f7f13a8.0402081253.7c465c7c@posting.google.com>,  | helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) wrote in message news:<c037go$30j$2@online.de>...J > Is there a way to get the current cluster impersonator from DCL (or, if . > it's the only way, from a compiled program)? > H > The reason I need this is because I want to periodically check if the I > OSU HTTP server is running and, if not, START IT ON THE NODE WHICH HAS y# > THE CURRENT CLUSTER IMPERSONATOR.. > F > I've posted a few questions concerning this to the OSU list, but it * > seems to be very inactive at the moment. > F > I'm still trying to figure out if it is possible to cleanly run the I > server on all nodes simultaneously, with the same configuration files, tI > log files etc.  Do I need to put the node name in the log file perhaps?CH > If it is already running on another node, it doesn't seem to start up 
 > cleanly. > E > Even if there was no problem with log files etc at startup, I don'ttD > think this would work in my case, since all the nodes are behind aH > router which forwards requests to the cluster alias.  Since I am doingG > multihosting, I have to specify some IP addresses ON WHICH THE SERVERa= > CAN ACTUALLY LISTEN (even though I'm just doing CNAME-basedhJ > multihosting; not sure why I have to specify IP addresses in this case).G > These can only be the localhost address and the cluster-impersonator G
 > address.  F Might be helpful if you mention the version of VMS and TCP/IP Services5 / UCX you are running.. but this should do it..(IIRC)w  ' $ pip ucx sh int/imp | sea sys$pipe imp.  D Not familiar with OSU, but if you do get it running on more than oneA node, might be worth looking at Load Broker rather than using thenE cluster impersonator, so you can dynamically balance connections onto. the least loaded box.y   ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 21:28:38 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)6 Subject: Re: need to get cluster impersonator from DCL$ Message-ID: <c069m5$nja$1@online.de>  = In article <9f7f13a8.0402081253.7c465c7c@posting.google.com>,e1 alexdaniels@themail.co.uk (Alex Daniels) writes: .  H > Might be helpful if you mention the version of VMS and TCP/IP Services7 > / UCX you are running.. but this should do it..(IIRC)C  B I would have hoped that the method doesn't depend on the versions!  ) > $ pip ucx sh int/imp | sea sys$pipe impT  G OK, that's what I was looking for.  However (TCPIP 5.3-183 on VAX 7.3, gB TCPIP 5.3-182 on ALPHA 7.3-1) I get "unrecognized qualifier".  :-(  F > Not familiar with OSU, but if you do get it running on more than oneC > node, might be worth looking at Load Broker rather than using therG > cluster impersonator, so you can dynamically balance connections ontot > the least loaded box..  G In an ideal world, yes, of course, the load broker and metric server isaH definitely the way to go.  However, on my hobbyist system, there is justF one external IP address visible, so the cluster impersonator is really? the only way to go.  (My router will let me forward requests toRA particular ports to the public address to particular ports of an eI arbitrary internal address, so one could do some balancing by having the wE server listen on different ports on different nodes, but a) incoming dH requests would have to specify a port and b) there would be no failover  capability.)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:09:21 +0000e) From: Tony Arnold <tony.arnold@man.ac.uk>r$ Subject: Re: new TCPIP patch for 5.3: Message-ID: <c061h2$13dano$1@ID-207001.news.uni-berlin.de>   Phillip,  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:l  G > I installed it on two VAXes with 7.3 and all other patches applied.  RI > Haven't installed it on ALPHA yet; might do so tonight since I have to o+ > reboot anyway if it doesn't look too bad.t  G I've installed it on both VAX and Alpha. ON VAX it's fine, no problem. lE On Alpha teh SMTP symbiont gives ACCVIO when the queue is started. I xG tried delting the queue and running tcpip$smtp_startup.com to recreate r5 them, but that caused the symbiont to ACCVIO as well.s  E One also gets a KEYNOTFOUND error. Here is the complete set of OPCOM  	 messages:s  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-FEB-2004 19:07:58.73  %%%%%%%%%%%" Message from user SYSTEM on ACAVMS' %LIB-E-KEYNOTFOU, key not found in tree.  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-FEB-2004 19:07:58.77  %%%%%%%%%%%" Message from user SYSTEM on ACAVMS< %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=04, virtual  address=000000000000& 0000, PC=0000000000192884, PS=0000001B  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-FEB-2004 19:08:02.31  %%%%%%%%%%%" Message from user SYSTEM on ACAVMS7 %QMAN-E-SYMDEL, unexpected symbiont process terminationt  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-FEB-2004 19:08:02.31  %%%%%%%%%%%" Message from user SYSTEM on ACAVMS< -SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual  address=000000000000& 0000, PC=0000000000071038, PS=0000001B   Tony.= -- =F Tony Arnold, Deputy to the Head of COS Division, Manchester Computing,: University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL.F T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039E E-mail: tony.arnold@man.ac.uk, Home: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnoldo   ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:47:27 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)$ Subject: Re: new TCPIP patch for 5.3$ Message-ID: <c0678v$l7m$1@online.de>  F In article <c061h2$13dano$1@ID-207001.news.uni-berlin.de>, Tony Arnold  <tony.arnold@man.ac.uk> writes:   I > > I installed it on two VAXes with 7.3 and all other patches applied.   K > > Haven't installed it on ALPHA yet; might do so tonight since I have to t- > > reboot anyway if it doesn't look too bad.o > I > I've installed it on both VAX and Alpha. ON VAX it's fine, no problem. lG > On Alpha the SMTP symbiont gives ACCVIO when the queue is started. I tI > tried delting the queue and running tcpip$smtp_startup.com to recreate e7 > them, but that caused the symbiont to ACCVIO as well.e  G OK, the confusion is starting to lift.  I have installed it on two VAX  F machines as well and it works.  I plan to reorganise my swap and page F files on an ALPHA (introducing a solid-state disk, or rather a shadow H set of two of them, for the purpose) and thus had planned to wait until H shortly before the necessary reboot to install the TCPIP patch.  I have  now thought better of it!   E How could this happen?  Surely someone at HP must have installed the h8 patch on an ALPHA and tried it out before putting it up!  D Has anyone else signed up for the patch email notification list and G noticed that there have been no notifications for a while, even though h there have been new patches?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 21:15:33 GMTu4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)$ Subject: Re: new TCPIP patch for 5.3, Message-ID: <VFxVb.6725$QA2.15564@attbi_s52>  w In article <c0678v$l7m$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:h !snip!E !Has anyone else signed up for the patch email notification list and cH !noticed that there have been no notifications for a while, even though  !there have been new patches?h !u   Hi Phillip,o  M I'm still receiving notifications from the ITRC site, once/week.  EISNER:: is N now publishing new ECO's using Graham Burley's FTP_NEW procedure; I don't know5 if you've registered there, but it's a good resource.t  J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own"aK bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-' t0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:10:42 -0500h* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>$ Subject: Re: new TCPIP patch for 5.3) Message-ID: <40272446.B5C5136B@istop.com>t  E I've gone through part of the long "release notes" for the 5.3 ECO 3.,  L This seems like an extensive/comprehensive release, affecting just about all the components of the stack.  L I am curious as to the timing of this release considering 5.4 is out already
 (right ?).  M It seems to me that they were widtholding all these fixes for quite some timenM and now they are unleashing it all at once. Why now ? Why were they widthhelds before ?  K Is this just components of 5.4 that were applicable to 5.3 ? or did they goi, ahead and apply fixes to the 5.3 code base ?  M As for me, I will make damned sure I can roll back this upgrade. I got bittensH by eco 2 which disabled IMAP on VAX and didn't fix SLIP nor the DHCP GUIM crashing when entering fields that can hold multiple values. Am curous to seerM if any of this will be fixed by 5,.3 eco 3 (I seem to be the only one to have  been affected by those bugs).a   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:57:45 -0500w7 From: Roy Kidder <RoyKidder@remove-this-part.yahoo.com>2  Subject: Newbie looking for helpG Message-ID: <pan.2004.02.09.01.57.44.310412@remove-this-part.yahoo.com>   G I recently got my hands on a VaxStation 3100. Now, I'm trying to figureh out what I can do with it. :)r  H It has a copy of VMS installed and apparently has an IP stack. I've beenF silently watching this newsgroup for a couple of weeks hoping to see a FAQ, but haven't noticed one.3  E I'm completely new to VMS, so any pointers would be most appreciated.    Thanks in advance, Roy.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 02:24:32 GMTl4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)$ Subject: Re: Newbie looking for help/ Message-ID: <AbCVb.124024$U%5.604436@attbi_s03>m   In article <pan.2004.02.09.01.57.44.310412@remove-this-part.yahoo.com>, Roy Kidder <RoyKidder@remove-this-part.yahoo.com> writes:cH !I recently got my hands on a VaxStation 3100. Now, I'm trying to figure !out what I can do with it. :) !iI !It has a copy of VMS installed and apparently has an IP stack. I've beenoG !silently watching this newsgroup for a couple of weeks hoping to see a  !FAQ, but haven't noticed one. !g   Welcome Roy,   Here's the FAQ:t  1 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/openvms_faq.htmls  L You can find out about the IP stack by issuing one of the following commands$ (for the three most popular stacks):  1 ucx sho version (UCX/TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS)   - netcu sho version (TCPware, from process.com)s  + mu sho/version (Multinet, from process.com)o  N There are (at least) a couple of other stacks available, but they are not very4 popular - I'm sure others will "fill in the blanks".  : The OpenVMS hobbyist program and license are available at:   http://openvmshobbyist.org/   M Use Google to search the archives of this newsgroup, if you really want to dor. some thorough research while asking questions:  4 http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en  E Just fill in the keywords you want to use for your search, and enter t$ comp.os.vms in the "Newsgroup" field  F !I'm completely new to VMS, so any pointers would be most appreciated. !e !Thanks in advance,l !Roy  J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" K bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-' o0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:12:56 -0500n* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>$ Subject: Re: Newbie looking for help) Message-ID: <402724CC.A322088A@istop.com>o   Roy Kidder wrote:aG > I'm completely new to VMS, so any pointers would be most appreciated.    $ HELP will go a long way.< $SET DEF SYS$EXAMPLES: will also give you a lot of examples.  I you can go to the vms web site at www.hp.com/go/openvms and consult a FAQeN there, as well as the online documentation for both the VMS opeating system as well as the TCPIP stack.  1 If you have specific questions, you can ask here.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:16:03 GMTh0 From: "Stephen Eickhoff" <operagost@example.com> Subject: Re: OT Spam8 Message-ID: <nbBVb.35331$EH5.31831@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>  3 "Don Sykes" <paladin@mydomain.com> wrote in messaget7 news:Q5COb.12852$3W6.7837@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...t > Tom Linden wrote:nH > > FYI,  Since adding spamhaus.org to my RBL's I have seen a noticeable > > reduction in Spam. >t# > Same here. My current list reads:sG > RBLs: bl.spamcop.net, sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, blackholes.mail-abuse.orgw >oH > If anyone knows of other good, free sites of serious anti-spam agents,G > I'd love to know about them. What I really wish is there would be ONEhD > authoritative agent. Maybe a positive filter, where all authentic,H > non-spamming providers would register and if your NOT on the list your > IP gets dinged.e  2 I get a surprising number of hits on spam by using& Accept-unresolvable-domains: false and# reject-unbacktranslatable-IP: true.p   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 18:29:09 -0500/ From: "Porridge Rope" <doissueer@oposfm344.com>t Subject: Respond Mezei7 Message-ID: <WzzVb.2431$lK.70856@news20.bellglobal.com>   ; "starwars" <nobody@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote in messagey? news:c1418098d1699efdbf24b9693496dc8b@tatooine.homelinux.net... = > *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*t >y >s/ >                          ====================t >i. >                             THE JF MEZEI FAQ >./ >                          ====================o >a >f > 1.  Who is JF Mezei? >pI > Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hitnL > rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the+ > longest running trolls in usenet history.> >o$ > 2.  How long has he been trolling? >y > For well over a decade.< >i > 3.  Where does he live?y >e > Jean-Francois Mezeio > 86 Harwood GateL > Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3l > (514) 695-8259 >@, > 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll? >gJ > His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourL > newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and dayF > out, every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listenL > to pleas to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he doesF > not pay attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts isK > corrected, he just goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little H > child holding his ears closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear > anything you say!" >y > 5.  What does he troll about?o >oH > His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  HeK > hates the USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into arJ > USA-bashing fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd > posts. > & > 6.  What does he hate about the USA? >oI > Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have anE > visceral hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is adJ > happier, better, more successful version of their country and they can'tH > stand it.  Some of JF's favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "theK > Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Carst= > are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.r >r% > 7.  What about his sexual trolling?w >nG > Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre.kK > Among his favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia,NH > sex toys, circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list
 > is endless.o >o > 8.  Circumcision???. >lK > Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes togK > insert circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF K > was traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants I > to Canada, left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom inlI > most of the world.  Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision  wascK > prevalent at the time, he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  AsoJ > soon as he could he arranged to get himself snipped, and then joined theI > brigades of circumcision proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating thepL > joys of a free willy.  His main argument is how much better he was able toL > masturbate after getting circumcised without that "pesky foreskin" gettingH > in the way of his enjoyment, and he has made it his mission in life to! > spread the circumcision gospel.< >aJ > 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky. >oK > Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects I > dear to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially K > little boy's foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.sL > He is also a tireless activist and advocate that children should be taughtL > to masturbate early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like
 > Americans".t > G > He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check theiraL > little boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, properI > movement, and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopiad for E > JF would be a world full of parents manipulating their little boys'a
 > penises. >YJ > 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!$ > Are you sure about all this stuff? > F > Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade" > full of Mezei trolling in there. > J > 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time > like all trolls do?C > D > Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling
 > aliases. >nI > 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?  >nG > Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, ao grownhJ > man who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls theL > newsgroups all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes toJ > ride his bike down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in > his bike.- > ; > 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?c >cJ > Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never gotK > past the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull D > my finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow. > K > 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them,s > is that true?  >tI > Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker-L > room.  He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in lockerJ > rooms over the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.L > He stalks the men in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin theyE > have, or how little is left if they have been circumcised.  He gets 5 > extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.m >iI > 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insanee	 > asylum!  > K > Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foilwL > hat world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF isG > that he sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, : > especially the USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about. >nF > What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail systemH > was "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spottingL > trains, writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yardF > like a good freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major eventsJ > that made him fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy ofH > Canadian Airlines and their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he seesG > as evil).  So paranoid is he that when an Air Canada plane crashed hegH > claimed that Air Canada employees went lurking about in the night withJ > buckets of white paint to cover up the Air Canada markings.  He saw that asL > symbolic of a cover up of the crash investigation.  He has never recovered > from this. >u8 > 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him! >uH > His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to someG > ancient, arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken J > seriously for decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and socialK > dropouts who share his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax2& > days of yore.  It's really pathetic! >u# > 17.  Where else does he hang out?O >cK > can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer0I > groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the%C > sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled ittL > relentlessly with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famousI > for.  But they ran him off that group and he had to go crawling back tosA > comp.os.vms with his tail between his legs, licking his wounds.C >0K > 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn'tf > troll. >,K > Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he F > slips in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respectsC > comp.os.vms, and, more importantly, he tries to hide his trollingAI > activities from them so they won't find out what a major netkook he is.+ >0K > 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind ofS > psycho he is!c >RG > Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And whiletH > you're at it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.; > And to alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and3 > news.admin.net-abuse.usenet. > 6 > 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address? >sJ > Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to: >s > abuse@sympatico.ca > abuse@bellglobal.com > abuse@istop.com  >nL > And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, emailJ > it to people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapersL > and magazines that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or > Canada, etc. >e >s > *** APPENDIX *** > I > List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years.eJ > This is only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a > full list. >h > jfmezei@istop.coma > jfmezei.spamnot@istop.comr > jfmezei@videotron.ca > jfmezei@vl.videotron.caP > nospam.jfmezei@videotron.cae  > "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam] >? > nobody <nobody@nobody.com> > nobody <nobody@nobody.net> > nobody <nobody@nobody.org> > nobody <nobody@nobody.info>e > nobody <nobody@nobody.int> > nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>i > nobody <nobody@null.dev>% > snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree>h+ > Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org>-( > Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>& > Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>' > Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>R > Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>' > Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> $ > Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>& > Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>/ > Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com>i) > Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com>h$ > Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> > Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org>f) > Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org>h* > Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>( > Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org>! > Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org>i) > Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org>u' > Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>f > Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org>s# > Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org>_% > Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>_" > Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>& > Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>( > Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>& > Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>, > Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org>  > Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org># > Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>0! > Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org>e& > Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org># > Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org>2# > Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>n" > Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>& > Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org>  > Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>' > Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org>p' > Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org>o& > Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> > Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> ( > Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>* > Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>' > Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> ' > Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org> ( > Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>, > Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>( > Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>) > Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ) > Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org>w* > Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>. > Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>0 > Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> > Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil>b) > Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org>h' > Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org>-& > Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>$ > Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>( > Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org>% > Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum>e* > Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>' > Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org>e$ > Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>' > Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org>c( > Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>) > Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>I+ > Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org>r) > Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>t$ > Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>* > Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>. > George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>- > Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org>e, > Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>* > Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>) > Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org>1, > Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org>! > T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>- > Q <queue@continuum.net>i > Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>, > Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>+ > John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>i >e= > *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*t   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 00:01:10 GMT  From: "None" <none@nospam.org> Subject: Re: Respond MezeiD Message-ID: <a5AVb.16687$F23.10047@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>  , You use just as many alias handles yourself.  9 You need serious psycho-therapy.  As quickly as possible!l   -- ***/***/***r When life gives you lemons Skullfuck everyone in sight! http://wonderofitall.com/    ***/***/***e: "Porridge Rope" <doissueer@oposfm344.com> wrote in message1 news:WzzVb.2431$lK.70856@news20.bellglobal.com...u   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:57:10 GMTo& From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> Subject: Re: Shannon on Itaniumn4 Message-ID: <GoxVb.13976$Ik3.11135@news.cpqcorp.net>   David J. Dachtera wrote: > Tom Linden wrote:r > H >>Perhaps VMS engineering has the perspicacity to secretly be working on >>a port to the AMD chip:-)a >  > A > That wouldn't be "perspicacity", that would be business acumen.  >   C Can we get back to vocabulary words I don't have to look up in the l dictionary?  :-) :-)   -- t John Reaganm' Compaq Pascal/{A|I}MACRO Project Leaderl Hewlett-Packard Company_   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun,  8 Feb 2004 23:52:47 +0100 (CET) . From: starwars <nobody@tatooine.homelinux.net># Subject: The JF Mezei FAQ is here!! E Message-ID: <c1418098d1699efdbf24b9693496dc8b@tatooine.homelinux.net>   ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*0    -                          ====================.  ,                             THE JF MEZEI FAQ  -                          ====================m     1.  Who is JF Mezei?  G Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit J rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the) longest running trolls in usenet history.i  " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.    3.  Where does he live?r   Jean-Francois Mezeis 86 Harwood Gate  Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3u (514) 695-8259  * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  H His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourJ newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and dayK out, every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listeneJ to pleas to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he doesD not pay attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts isI corrected, he just goes right on trolling year in, year out like a littleiK child holding his ears closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hears anything you say!"   5.  What does he troll about?e  F His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  HeI hates the USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into atH USA-bashing fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.  $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  G Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have aaC visceral hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a-H happier, better, more successful version of their country and they can'tF stand it.  Some of JF's favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "theI Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Carso; are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.3  # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?D  E Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre. I Among his favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, K sex toys, circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list  is endless.    8.  Circumcision???n  I Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes torI insert circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JFgI was traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrantslG to Canada, left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in K most of the world.  Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was4I prevalent at the time, he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  AslH soon as he could he arranged to get himself snipped, and then joined theG brigades of circumcision proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating theuJ joys of a free willy.  His main argument is how much better he was able toJ masturbate after getting circumcised without that "pesky foreskin" gettingF in the way of his enjoyment, and he has made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.   H 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.  I Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects G dear to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especiallynI little boy's foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.hJ He is also a tireless activist and advocate that children should be taughtJ to masturbate early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".?  E He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check theirhJ little boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, properK movement, and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia fortC JF would be a world full of parents manipulating their little boys'  penises.  H 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!" Are you sure about all this stuff?  K Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade   full of Mezei trolling in there.  H 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like all trolls do?s  K Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling. aliases.  G 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?i  K Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a grownoH man who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls theJ newsgroups all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes toK ride his bike down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in 	 his bike.i  9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?t  H Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never gotI past the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pulloK my finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.r  I 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them,a
 is that true?r  G Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the lockernJ room.  He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in lockerH rooms over the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.J He stalks the men in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin theyC have, or how little is left if they have been circumcised.  He getsl3 extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.n  G 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insanen asylum!r  I Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foilEJ hat world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF isE that he sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him,F8 especially the USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.  K What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail systemAF was "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spottingJ trains, writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yardK like a good freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major eventsvH that made him fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy ofK Canadian Airlines and their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he seesbE as evil).  So paranoid is he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he F claimed that Air Canada employees went lurking about in the night withK buckets of white paint to cover up the Air Canada markings.  He saw that as J symbolic of a cover up of the crash investigation.  He has never recovered
 from this.  6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  F His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to someE ancient, arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has takensH seriously for decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and socialI dropouts who share his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vaxs$ days of yore.  It's really pathetic!  ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?s  I can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer G groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the9A sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled itgJ relentlessly with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famousG for.  But they ran him off that group and he had to go crawling back tod? comp.os.vms with his tail between his legs, licking his wounds.   I 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn'to troll.  I Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so hetD slips in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respectsA comp.os.vms, and, more importantly, he tries to hide his trollingnG activities from them so they won't find out what a major netkook he is.t  I 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind ofn
 psycho he is!c  E Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And whiletK you're at it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.S9 And to alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and  news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.  4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  H Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   abuse@sympatico.ca abuse@bellglobal.com abuse@istop.comg  J And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, emailH it to people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapersJ and magazines that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.     *** APPENDIX ***  G List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. H This is only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a
 full list.   jfmezei@istop.comi jfmezei.spamnot@istop.comh jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.cal nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca  "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>  nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  nobody <nobody@null.dev># snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree>u) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> & Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>e Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> " Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com>t' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com>e" Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org>h( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> % Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>n Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org>y! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org>e# Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>l  Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>s Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org>f$ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org>s! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>   Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org> % Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org>c$ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com>u& Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org>l% Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org>b& Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org>r( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil>b' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org>l% Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> $ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> ( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org>e" Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org>l& Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> ) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org>a' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>o" Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org>i* Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org>h* Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>o Q <queue@continuum.net>s Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>s  ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*e   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:03:10 GMTt0 From: "Stephen Eickhoff" <operagost@example.com>( Subject: Re: Vaxstation some question...7 Message-ID: <i%AVb.35212$EH5.7131@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>r  > "Keith Parris" <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:cf15391e.0401121156.26c33119@posting.google.com... @ > "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message, news:<1v6dnTQ4kslr7Z3dRVn-ug@comcast.com>...  > > VMS doesn't partition disks. >fH > True in general, but VMS can partition disks using the Host-Based RAID3 > Software.  And one can also partition disks usingaG > storage-controller-based partitioning and present those partitions too > VMS.  L An amusing anecdote: I once was in charge of a VAX 4000-705a running 5.5-2H4J that needed some disk space for Oracle archive logs. Since we were down toE only one or two slots in our Storageworks (we had something like fivevG BA356es), I recommended a 9.1 GB RZ40. Some of you oldsters are alreadydH going "D'oh!" 5.5-2 didn't support disks over 8.5 GB. After crashing theK system twice when it tried to write past the 8.5 GB mark, a DECPaq engineeriI informed me of my poor research skills and advised partitioning the disk.aJ Fortunately, one of the open slots was hanging off an HSD10, which had theL rare skill of being able to partition disks. To get my single big disk back,F I then created a volume set of the two partitions. I have no idea whatL performance hit this inflicted, but hey, it wasn't being used for random I/O4 and I fixed the problem without corrupting any data.  L Really, my stupid move was not pushing a 6.2 upgrade over patching 5.5-2 for Y2K.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Feb 2004 12:06:09 -0800l7 From: jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net (Daryl Jones)r$ Subject: Re: Why was VAX abandoned ?< Message-ID: <8a646952.0402081206.a7d2ee0@posting.google.com>   Dear Duncan MacDonald:  D The VAX 9000, NVAX, and NVAX+ use micropipelining. In micropipelined; architecture, the I-box acts much like a load/store engine,o? dynamically prefeching operands prior to instruction execution. B Micropipelining technique allows a CPU to retire one basic complexC instruction set computer (CISC) macroinstruction per cycle, as in aoF single RISC design. Then the E-box executes the all non-floating-pointC instructions, for interrupt and exception handling, and for variouseC overhead function. The F-box performs longword integer multiply andnF floating point instruction execution. The E-box supplies operands, andB the F-box transmits result and status back to the E-box. The F-boxF contains a four stage, floating point and integer-multiplier pipeline,+ and a nonpipelined, floating point divider.   9 RISC techniques can be found in CISC chip and vise-versa!a  4 References: Digital Technical Journals, VAX 9000 andE NVAX-miroprocessor VAX systems, Volume 2 Number 4 and Volume 4 Number  3.   Regards, Daryl Jonesa       duncan@macdonald.compulink.co.uk (Duncan Macdonald) wrote in message news:<memo.20040208120012.3160A@macdonald.compulink.co.uk>...P > It would be quite possible using current technology to produce a VAX CPU chip 6 > that was far faster than any that was actually made. > P > However at the time that the decision to move away from the VAX was made, the O > technology available was far cruder. (Think 486 not Pentium 4). At that time tQ > there seemed to be no way to put a CISC to RISC converter and a fast RISC core aO > and a large dose of cache onto a single silicon chip. (A P4 is effectively a iN > RISC core and a RISC to CISC converter with a large cache). Leaving out the N > converter (and making the compilers do the work) made it possible to make a  > fast chip - the ALPHA. > P > As the Alpha was a new design that was not tied to code compatibility with an N > existing software base, additional speedups could be gained from techniques 5 > such as lazy writes (undefined memory write order).o > P > Some years ago I looked after a Microvax 3100 model 98 and also an Alpha 3000 N > model 300. The Microvax had one of the fastest VAX CPU chips ever made, the N > Alpha had one of the slowest Alpha CPU chips ever sold. The Alpha ran rings + > around the VAX on any CPU based activity.t > O > My own personal opinion is that the decision to move from the VAX was a good rP > one. (However the decision to go to the Alpha probably contributed greatly to R > the decline of VMS by persuading Dave Cutler to go to Microsoft and get NT into  > a workable product.)   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Feb 2004 11:02:45 -0800.7 From: jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net (Daryl Jones)G% Subject: Re: Why was VAX abandonned ?@= Message-ID: <8a646952.0402081102.6a7cd826@posting.google.com>n  c glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message news:<0ohVb.852$032.16502@attbi_s53>...p > Daryl Jones wrote: >  > J > > On the earlier VAXes, the null mode process was use to keep the systemG > > busy during idle times. On the later VAXes and Alphas the null modeyI > > process was removed. Therefore, a later VAX and Alpha processor couldaJ > > have 0-2% utilization when it is idle and 100% when it was being used. > E > Do VAX and Alpha have a way to stop the CPU, like the WAIT state ond > IBM S/360, S/370, etc.?  > 	 > -- glenm   Dear Glen Herrmansfeldt:  F I don't know everything about IBM systems. You can stop a CPU on a VAXD or Alpha from the console by issuing a control-p, which will produce@ the three chevrons >>>. The system will be stop. You can issue aC "continue" and the system will continue were it stop at. There is ao3 time limit and how much time you have I don't know.i   Regards, Daryl Jonesr   ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 14:29:43 -0500 (EST)+ From: Lord Isildur <isildur@andrew.cmu.edu> % Subject: Re: Why was VAX abandonned ?nH Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58-035.0402081426120.3977@unix44.andrew.cmu.edu>  H control-p works on alphas? i've never met an alpha that it worked on (orG any other way to drop to the chevron from the console, only hitting thenL halt button or executing a halt instruction).. admittedly, i've not ever hadO the console of a big alpha, only workstation alphas, though from the very firstnK small alphas (dec3000 [346]00's) to miata machines, control-p didnt get youhA to the chevron. Is there any way to make it so that it does work?o   isildurc    & On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Daryl Jones wrote:  e > glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message news:<0ohVb.852$032.16502@attbi_s53>...E > > Daryl Jones wrote: > >R > > L > > > On the earlier VAXes, the null mode process was use to keep the systemI > > > busy during idle times. On the later VAXes and Alphas the null modetK > > > process was removed. Therefore, a later VAX and Alpha processor couldML > > > have 0-2% utilization when it is idle and 100% when it was being used. > >iG > > Do VAX and Alpha have a way to stop the CPU, like the WAIT state onE > > IBM S/360, S/370, etc.?. > >  > > -- gleno >  > Dear Glen Herrmansfeldt: >eH > I don't know everything about IBM systems. You can stop a CPU on a VAXF > or Alpha from the console by issuing a control-p, which will produceB > the three chevrons >>>. The system will be stop. You can issue aE > "continue" and the system will continue were it stop at. There is av5 > time limit and how much time you have I don't know.c >k
 > Regards,
 > Daryl JonesS >    ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:50:05 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)% Subject: Re: Why was VAX abandonned ? $ Message-ID: <c067ds$l7m$2@online.de>  H In article <Pine.LNX.4.58-035.0402081426120.3977@unix44.andrew.cmu.edu>,. Lord Isildur <isildur@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:   J > control-p works on alphas? i've never met an alpha that it worked on (orI > any other way to drop to the chevron from the console, only hitting the-N > halt button or executing a halt instruction).. admittedly, i've not ever hadQ > the console of a big alpha, only workstation alphas, though from the very firsteM > small alphas (dec3000 [346]00's) to miata machines, control-p didnt get you C > to the chevron. Is there any way to make it so that it does work?x  : As a matter of fact, I did so yesterday on a DEC 3000/300.  ' I don't know if CONTINUE works, though.m   ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 16:17:45 -0500 (EST)+ From: Lord Isildur <isildur@andrew.cmu.edu>e% Subject: Re: Why was VAX abandonned ?-H Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58-035.0402081614400.9868@unix44.andrew.cmu.edu>  J is this perhaps something being done by vms and not by the machine itself? isildur)    C On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:7  J > In article <Pine.LNX.4.58-035.0402081426120.3977@unix44.andrew.cmu.edu>,/ > Lord Isildur <isildur@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:o >iL > > control-p works on alphas? i've never met an alpha that it worked on (orK > > any other way to drop to the chevron from the console, only hitting thedP > > halt button or executing a halt instruction).. admittedly, i've not ever hadS > > the console of a big alpha, only workstation alphas, though from the very first O > > small alphas (dec3000 [346]00's) to miata machines, control-p didnt get youtE > > to the chevron. Is there any way to make it so that it does work?h >e< > As a matter of fact, I did so yesterday on a DEC 3000/300. >s) > I don't know if CONTINUE works, though.r >  >e   ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 21:30:25 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)% Subject: Re: Why was VAX abandonned ?a$ Message-ID: <c069ph$nja$2@online.de>  H In article <Pine.LNX.4.58-035.0402081614400.9868@unix44.andrew.cmu.edu>,. Lord Isildur <isildur@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:   N > > > control-p works on alphas? i've never met an alpha that it worked on (orM > > > any other way to drop to the chevron from the console, only hitting theyR > > > halt button or executing a halt instruction).. admittedly, i've not ever hadU > > > the console of a big alpha, only workstation alphas, though from the very firstaQ > > > small alphas (dec3000 [346]00's) to miata machines, control-p didnt get yousG > > > to the chevron. Is there any way to make it so that it does work?s > >e> > > As a matter of fact, I did so yesterday on a DEC 3000/300. > >a+ > > I don't know if CONTINUE works, though.o > > L > is this perhaps something being done by vms and not by the machine itself?  F I hit CONTROL-P during the startup sequence, before VMS was running.  B There, it works.  I haven't tried it after VMS was up and running!   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 05:55:20 GMTn0 From: glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu>% Subject: Re: Why was VAX abandonned ? / Message-ID: <chFVb.208883$nt4.986971@attbi_s51>    Daryl Jones wrote:   (snip)  H > I don't know everything about IBM systems. You can stop a CPU on a VAXF > or Alpha from the console by issuing a control-p, which will produceB > the three chevrons >>>. The system will be stop. You can issue aE > "continue" and the system will continue were it stop at. There is a 5 > time limit and how much time you have I don't know.   4 IBM S/360 and successors have a PSW bit called WAIT.  6 When set, no instructions are executed, hopefully with8 interrupts enabled.   There is no NULL job or NULL task.  ; The is especially useful when running on a virtual machine,i< as VM doesn't have to use up 100% of its time running a NULL
 task loop.  @ The real reason is that IBM used to rent machines, such that the: rental charge was based on time actually spent processing.8 A hardware timer could measure the amount actually used.  9 As far as I know, DEC never rented VAX or Alpha that way.o   -- glenf   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:20:22 GMTi0 From: "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@hp.com>9 Subject: Re: [TCPIP V5.4] IFCONFIG vs. SET/SHOW INTERFACEc< Message-ID: <qfBVb.48372$Wa.9018@news-server.bigpond.net.au>  	 Hi Peter,e   Better late than never :-)  ; We are trying to correct this problem for a future release.r  J Since V5.0, if you create IP alias addresses with 'ifconfig', these do notD show up using TCPIP SHOW INTER.  What you are observing here is thatH starting in V5.4, the TCPIP SET INTERFACE command now uses 'ifconfig' toJ create all IP addresses (primary and alias addresses).  At the moment, the5 TCPIP SHOW INTER is not finding all the IP addresses.a   Matt.  -- a= -------------------------------------------------------------d OpenVMS TCP/IP Engineering Enterprise Computing Group Hewlett-Packard Companye Gold Coast, AUSTRALIAk= -------------------------------------------------------------n    C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message - news:Gj3Sb.359451$Tz1.48415@news.chello.at...iG > Is this common knowledge - or at least documented somewhere - that ann aliasaI > address entered via TCPIP IFCONFIG is not visible with SHOW INTERFACE ?o- > I was quite surprised to see this happen...t >n > TIAl >  > -- s > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERt' > Network and OpenVMS system specialista > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.078 ************************