/ INFO-VAX	Thu, 01 Jan 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 2       Contents: Re: decwindows question  Re: decwindows question % Interested in learning about OpenVMS. ) Re: Interested in learning about OpenVMS. 8 Re: Linux kernel security bug ... VMS kernel rock solid!8 Re: Linux kernel security bug ... VMS kernel rock solid! Re: Tom Linden's use of /* RE: Tom Linden's use of /*  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 10:12:05 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>  Subject: Re: decwindows question0 Message-ID: <3FF3F275.501CF941@sture.homeip.net>  ! VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > X > In article <3FF22BC9.FD30B0EE@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes: > {...snip...}P > >If the XDM software on VMS is too primitive to support the XDM client on your9 > >PC, you can then do the following on your VMS machine:  > > = > >SET DISPLAY/CREATE/EXEC/TRANSPORT=TCPIP/NODE=pc.domain.com  > >MC DECW$STARTLOGIN  > 7 > Does this work on PeeCees for CDE? (The New Desktop?)  >   D Yes, I used to do this on my PeeCee at work, with both Excursion and KeaX.   1 But IIRC (from 4-5 years ago), it was an image in  cde$system_defaults:[bin]   / cde$system_defaults:[bin]dtsession.exe perhaps?   H > I've done this with my PoerBook G4.  I have X11 running in full screenG > mode on the PowerBook.  I can run DECW$STARTLOGIN and I get the login I > dialog box.  If I login to start CDE, all I get is the blue screen with I > the white border, the message: Starting the New Desktop for OpenVMS and G > the "hourglass".  If I have items started with login, they eventually H > appear.  I never get the blue screen to go away and the "dashboard" to	 > appear.  > H > If, however, I select DECwindows session from the Options in the login' > dialog box and then login, all is OK.  > H > I'm assuming the problem is with the window manager.  Anybody have any > ideas? >   F Sorry, I have yet to get X11 on my Mac to display _any_ window from myE VMS system. I have followed copious instructions, but it still barfs.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:20:35 +0100+ From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>   Subject: Re: decwindows question9 Message-ID: <bt13ai$1frlc$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   J "jan van mastbergen" <jandotvandotmastbergen@planet.nl> schreef in bericht$ news:bst559$o4f$1@reader11.wxs.nl...J > Just for fun I am tring to get DECWindows running on an old uVax 3100. IG > use the hobbyist VMS 7.2 CD. So far I have managed to get VMS & TCPIP G > running, loaded licenses, tweaked sysgen parameters and completed the % > dwmotif 1.2-5 installation process. I > The box itself has no graphics hardware. My X-server is a PC with WNT2K 9 > and Hummingbird Exceed 5.x. This works for other stuff. I > Trying to run the decwindows clients (e.g. paint) produces a variety of E > errors so far. My first question is: can I configure the machine to B > respond to XDMCP requests? I saw no indication of this in the DW > installation Guide.  >  > TIA, Jan van Mastbergen  >  Jan,  I yes, VAX/VMS 7.2 and the HP TCPIP (v5.1 and upwards) stack support XDMCP. , The configuration is rather straightforward.  " $ set def sys$specific:[tcpip$xdm] $ copy *.temp *.txt  $ type xservers.txt  #  # K # This file can be uses to suppport X terminals which do not support XDMCP.  # 0 # For each terminal, add a line that consists of #     DisplayName:0 foreign  # ! # Where DisplayName is a IP name.  #  #rufus.compaq.com:0 foreign  indium.vlems.thuis:0 foreign $   L The last record was added by me. Not sure whether it really required because= I can open an Xsession thru XDM on other windows systems too.  What error messages do you get?  Example:
 $ cre/ter/det + %DECW-E-CANT_OPEN_DISPL, Can't open display I This is an indication that the target server has no window manager up and  running.   Hans   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Jan 2004 00:21:29 -0800 ' From: vmortellaro@hotmail.com (Vincent) . Subject: Interested in learning about OpenVMS.= Message-ID: <955bb04a.0401010021.316ff803@posting.google.com>    Hi,   E I'd like to learn about OpenVMS. I tried looking at the demo accounts = on DeathRow, while reading the Beginner's faq on openvms.org. D Unfortunately, it still took me about 20minutes to figure out that I& could view a terse directory list ala:   $dir /brief   C If anyone could suggest any books that would be helpful for someone F that has absoultely no familiarity with VMS, I'd really appreciate it.B By basic I mean simple things like how to navigate the filesystem, where everything is, etc.    Vincent    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Jan 2004 10:49:28 -0800 7 From: jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net (Daryl Jones) 2 Subject: Re: Interested in learning about OpenVMS.= Message-ID: <8a646952.0401011049.68598432@posting.google.com>   l vmortellaro@hotmail.com (Vincent) wrote in message news:<955bb04a.0401010021.316ff803@posting.google.com>... > Hi,  > G > I'd like to learn about OpenVMS. I tried looking at the demo accounts ? > on DeathRow, while reading the Beginner's faq on openvms.org. F > Unfortunately, it still took me about 20minutes to figure out that I( > could view a terse directory list ala: > 
 > $dir /brief  > E > If anyone could suggest any books that would be helpful for someone H > that has absoultely no familiarity with VMS, I'd really appreciate it.D > By basic I mean simple things like how to navigate the filesystem, > where everything is, etc.  > 	 > Vincent   
 Dear Vincent:   S Another recommedation besides those that have been given prior to this response is:   %     VAX/VMS Operating System Concepts      Author: David Donald Miller      ISBN: 1-55558-065-3 !     DEC Order Number: EY-F590E-DP      Copyright: 1992   
 Best of Luck,  Daryl Jones    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 10:35:46 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>A Subject: Re: Linux kernel security bug ... VMS kernel rock solid! 0 Message-ID: <3FF3F802.398E1EE6@sture.homeip.net>   Tom Linden wrote:  > 9 > Thanks, I would guess that services swampt that number.  >  > /* -----Original Message-----   E Excuse me Tom. I do not wish to be rude, but I find your use of /* to 8 precede quoted lines distinctly uneasy on the eye/brain.  & I don't really know why, but it is so.   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Jan 2004 07:59:52 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) A Subject: Re: Linux kernel security bug ... VMS kernel rock solid! 3 Message-ID: <JiC2P7la8kgL@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ] In article <3FF3F802.398E1EE6@sture.homeip.net>, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes:  > Tom Linden wrote:  >>  : >> Thanks, I would guess that services swampt that number. >>    >> /* -----Original Message----- > G > Excuse me Tom. I do not wish to be rude, but I find your use of /* to : > precede quoted lines distinctly uneasy on the eye/brain. > ( > I don't really know why, but it is so.  4 So did the designer of Ada, which is why he required   	--    on _every_ comment line.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 12:34:54 +0000  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> # Subject: Re: Tom Linden's use of /* ) Message-ID: <3FF413EE.E4FF367F@Omond.net>    Paul Sture wrote:    > Tom Linden wrote:  > > ; > > Thanks, I would guess that services swampt that number.  > > ! > > /* -----Original Message-----  > G > Excuse me Tom. I do not wish to be rude, but I find your use of /* to : > precede quoted lines distinctly uneasy on the eye/brain. > ( > I don't really know why, but it is so.   Easy to understand why :-)   JCL on MVS (et al).   ! All the best for the future Paul.   	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 08:47:22 -0800# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> # Subject: RE: Tom Linden's use of /* 9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIMEFNCJAA.tom@kednos.com>    Is that better?    <-----Original Message----- ' <From: Roy Omond [mailto:Roy@Omond.net] ) <Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 4:35 AM  <To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com$ <Subject: Re: Tom Linden's use of /* <  <  <Paul Sture wrote: <  <> Tom Linden wrote: <> >< <> > Thanks, I would guess that services swampt that number. <> >" <> > /* -----Original Message----- <>H <> Excuse me Tom. I do not wish to be rude, but I find your use of /* to; <> precede quoted lines distinctly uneasy on the eye/brain.  <>) <> I don't really know why, but it is so.  <  <Easy to understand why :-)  <  <JCL on MVS (et al). < " <All the best for the future Paul. < 
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