0 INFO-VAX	Sat, 10 Jan 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 19      Contents: Re: 7.3-1 to 7.3-2 Re: 7.3-1 to 7.3-2* DECW$MAIL bug ! (256 character line limit). Re: DECW$MAIL bug ! (256 character line limit), Re: Experienced OpenVMS Admin/Guru available RE: Multnet Documentation V4.0? P Re: Oracle Rdb on GS1280 with 7.3-2 exceeds 1 million transactions per minute us Re: Problems with 7.3 and 164LX   RE: Rally VAX to Alpha Migration# Re: To all "patriotic" americans... # Re: To all "patriotic" americans... # Re: To all "patriotic" americans... # Re: To all "patriotic" americans...  Re: VAXstation question , Re: VMS naming conventions for disk volumes?, Re: VMS naming conventions for disk volumes?$ Re: VMS to VMS copying between Nodes$ Re: VMS to VMS copying between Nodes$ Re: VMS to VMS copying between NodesD Re: Well Andrew, "3" count them "3" security patches for VMS in five  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:55:44 GMT A From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk>  Subject: Re: 7.3-1 to 7.3-2 > Message-ID: <QSQLb.11545$Rs.126869600@news-text.cableinet.net>  J It depends what else you change at the same time, or what new features you- choose to experiment with (eg: LAN failover).   J Just the OS should be a minimal issue. V7.3-1 to V7.3-2, then boot and run is my experience so far.  J Changing to DECwindows/Motif V1.3-1 might cause some Motif applications anI issue, but that depends how you coded them. The bundled apps seem to work H just fine, as do previous versions of DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COM etc.> I've not had any problems so far. They did change the way thatG DECW$GET)IMAGE_VERSION.COM works, so if you use it early on in the boot @ sequence to make any version specific actions you'll now need toC define/undefine SYS$SCRATCH either side of the call to that command 
 procedure.  H TCPIP Services V5.4 is a new version. It introduces Failsafe IP. Haven't; played with it yet. The rest of it seems to work just fine.   0 My (limited) experience so far is - no big deal.  G However, as always - read the manuals first and understand what they're @ telling you in the context of your own systems, applications andL environment. Then make your own tests before you put it live in a production/ environment so that you minimise any surprises.   H If it's just a home system then go for it and fiddle away as much as youH like. If it's running something serious involving lives or lots of moneyL then don't rush into a new version and do a lot of testing and qualification first.   --     Hope this helps, Colin. ) colin DOT butcher AT xdelta DOT co DOT uk L Systems Archaeologist - Investigation & troubleshooting of older systems and	 networks. : "Bhushan Narkhede" <bhushann@hotmail.com> wrote in message6 news:8a3b834.0401090045.47417059@posting.google.com...   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:46:20 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: 7.3-1 to 7.3-2 0 Message-ID: <00A2BAD6.59C2A0AB@SendSpamHere.ORG>   In article <QSQLb.11545$Rs.126869600@news-text.cableinet.net>, "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk> writes:K >It depends what else you change at the same time, or what new features you . >choose to experiment with (eg: LAN failover). > K >Just the OS should be a minimal issue. V7.3-1 to V7.3-2, then boot and run  >is my experience so far.   I My experience was two install failures resulting in OS restores until the J PCSI installation finally complained about the SSH EAK resulting in abort-J ing the third attempt to install V7.3-2 to PRODUCT REMOVE the SSH EAK kit." Fourth time 'round was a charm. ;(  H It's been a long time since I've had to devote a day+ to upgrading a VMS  box with an incremental release.   --B http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.  --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:01:49 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>3 Subject: DECW$MAIL bug ! (256 character line limit) ) Message-ID: <3FFFCD58.8FA8735E@istop.com>    VAX VMS 7.2   M The DECwidnows MAIL program cuts email lines at 256 characters before flowing M them into the window (sort of silly since Xwindows provides automatic flowing  of text into the window).   8 Character cell MAIL doesn't cut lines at 256 characters.  L I realise that DECNET::MAIL limits non-foreign messages to 256 character perL lines, but local mail (including SMTP mail delivered to the same node) don'tM have that limitation, so the DECW$MAIL shouldn't have that limitation either.   M I believe that the RFC stipulate a maximum line of 1024 (or os ot 2048 ?). So K DECW$MAIL should be able to handle that limit even if the DECNET portion of 4 the MAIL protocol isn't updated to modern standards.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:52:10 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> 7 Subject: Re: DECW$MAIL bug ! (256 character line limit) 9 Message-ID: <btp088$9pa7d$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>   & On 2004-01-10 11:01, "JF Mezei" wrote:   > [...]  > O > I believe that the RFC stipulate a maximum line of 1024 (or os ot 2048 ?). So M > DECW$MAIL should be able to handle that limit even if the DECNET portion of 6 > the MAIL protocol isn't updated to modern standards.  F According to RFC 2821, Section 4.5.3.1, "Size limits and minimums" ...   | text line  | A | The maximum total length of a text line including the <CRLF> is > | 1000 characters (not counting the leading dot duplicated for@ | transparency). This number may be increased by the use of SMTP | Service Extensions.    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:14:46 +0000  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> 5 Subject: Re: Experienced OpenVMS Admin/Guru available ( Message-ID: <3FFFECB6.9020500@Omond.net>   Gary Cooper wrote:  E > Over 20 yrs experience on OpenVMS, Alpha, VAX, Network, SAN, etc... ' > Contact me at gwcooper@mindspring.com   " a) do you live in China or India ?7 b) if not, would you be willing to relocate to either ?   B Don't you think it might have been prudent to mention where you're3 located ?  Let me guess ... it could only be USofA.    *sigh*.   	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:29:47 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> ( Subject: RE: Multnet Documentation V4.0?R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB2379CD@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----4 > From: John Brandon [mailto:brandon@dalsemi.com]=20  > Sent: January 9, 2004 10:06 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com & > Subject: Multnet Documentation V4.0? >=20 > Anyone using Multinet V4.0?  >=20+ > And where could I find the documentation?  >=201 > Is the current version (V4.4 or V4.3) similiar?  >=20 > TIA! >=20 >=20 > J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  > VMS Systems Administrator , > firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com >=20   John,   
 Check out:? http://www.process.com/tcpip/multinet.html (Multinet Home Page) C http://www.multinet.process.com/ftp/docs/html/multinet.html (online  doc's)   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:11:01 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> Y Subject: Re: Oracle Rdb on GS1280 with 7.3-2 exceeds 1 million transactions per minute us G Message-ID: <puVLb.64843$AJB.3000@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: ? > In article <f30679fb.0401090506.5766cac2@posting.google.com>, 2 > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) writes: > C >> May be its time to Re-bundle Oracle RDB under OVMS ! Even as an C >> Oracle-HP agreement.... may be with some kind of activation key. A >> As RDB is exclusive for OVMS, there is no reason to mantain it B >> unbundled...Would be good for Sybase / Ingres customers just toA >> port their old database/applications to ORDB. And ORacle could  >> justify RDB investments...  > F > Why would ORACLE agree to this?  Either you deprive them of a lot ofH > income (not that Larry needs it---I mean, how many Migs can you fly atD > once), or make VMS unnecessarily expensive for folks who don't use > Rdb.  K In the 'old' days (mid '80's through to about 1992), a Rdb run-time licence - was included in the base VMS licence package.   J You'd buy a cheap MicroVax with an Rdb Development licence and then deploy@ production to as many machines as you wanted without extra cost.  H All that went by the wayside with the sale of Rdb to Oracle. Many peopleF (myself included) thought that Digital should have taken Rdb group andE packaged it as a separate company and then done an IPO for 50% of the H company (the investment banking firm I was working with proposed this toH Digital). It would have raised far more than the $125 million or so thatF Oracle paid for 100% of the company, and would have allowed Digital to3 retain significant sway over the VMS future of Rdb.   L The planned NT version of Rdb was abandoned at around the time of the OracleJ transaction as Oracle didn't want to have another product competing in the	 NT space.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:49:21 +0100 & From: Tor Arne Rein <tarein@online.no>( Subject: Re: Problems with 7.3 and 164LX/ Message-ID: <JrTLb.451$hd.12739@news2.e.nsc.no>    Hi,   I Just want to thank everyone that came with suggestions. My system is now   up and running.   F After trying all SCSI cards/cables/terminators I had, it actually was D the CD-ROM drive (was working in Tru64). Now running with a Plextor  drive instead.  F Now, if I only could get my hands on a VMS compatible ethernet card...   Tor Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:12:16 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> ) Subject: RE: Rally VAX to Alpha Migration R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB2379CB@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   =20 A > > - While it was not Rally specific, I completed a major VAX=20  > Cobol / Rdb=20? > > / CI mission critical, high visibility cluster to 3 node=20  > Alpha ES45 /=20 < > > SAN / Rdb cluster earlier this year (went live in mid=20 > April). Rdb was=20I > > latest version available. This project was extremely successful in=20 A > > that the Cust went fom 6 large VAX 7610's that were always=20  > peaked out=20 8 > > in prime time to an environment whereby their new=20 > environment servers=205 > > (were running about 20% utilization at peak time.  >=20A > Yeow.  If I were that customer, I might now be feeling a bit=20 B > like I bought /too much/ replacement hardware.  80% is a hell=20 > of a lot of head room. >=20 > > From a pure costG > > perspective, they now have a huge amount of datacenter space and=20 A > > cooling/power available for future expansion. In addition,=20  > while they=20 J > > are still in the evaluation phase, this has allowed the Customer to=20A > > look at all sorts of new functionality that they could not=20  > add before=20 I > > because of loading and version issues e.g. Java based development,=20 D > > wrapping existing Cobol logic and serving up via Web Services=20H > > technologies, Apache web serving, Adv Server (reduce file serving=20A > > virus issues while consolidating Intel servers at the same=20  > time) etc. >=20) > Well, there is always that bright side.  >=20	 > -brian.  > --H > --- Brian Chase | bdc@world.std.com | http://world.std.com/~bdc/ -----@ >       IBM 1130 Club Motto:  "Computer People Are Happy People" >=20  D Yep, but try convincing a Customer that has been living with so muchF performance pain for so long on "big" VAX's that they don't need a midE range ES45 cluster, but rather an entry level DS25 cluster. They were B pleasantly surprised and in their view, with all of the effort andH internal visibility they went through, this was a great problem to have.   :-)   F Btw - lots of folks don't realize that there is huge savings to be hadG with some 3rd party SW that still license big VAX's as enterprise class G systems and DS25/ES45 as "departmental" hence, much reduced maint costs H etc. So, even though you get 5-10 times performance, you pay a whole lot- less in SW license costs with some vendors ..    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:51:16 GMT : From: "Gregory Morrow" <gregoryBIGDOTmorrow@earthlink.net>, Subject: Re: To all "patriotic" americans...@ Message-ID: <82PLb.1175$q4.302@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>  
 "I agree"....    --   Best Greg      2 "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message2 news:d85d3690b07ae9b1058bab9791d3b0ec@dizum.com...G > JF, it's selfish of you to only share your wisdom with rec.travel.air 	 alone and G > leave out your friends in the other groups you frequent.  Surely they 
 would want: > to read such precious gems as this too, don't you think? > < > JF Mezei, in nobody <nobody@nobody.com> disguise, wrote in  > <3FFE74F9.8DD770F@nobody.com>: > G > >All patriotic americans who strongly believe that their government's  actions K > >were honest and necessary to preserve the United States, you should take  a " > >look at the following document: > > F > >http://www.ceip.org/files/Publications/IraqReport3.asp?from=pubdate > > L > >This is from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a washington= > >think tank which has spent 6 months researching the issue.  > > L > >While you may choose to disbelieve your allies outside the USA to protect yourH > >own government, perhaps there is a chance you might believe a serious report. > >prepared by americans in the United States. > >  > > G > >The BBC reported the issuance of this report, and as part of the BBC  report, 9 > >it was mentioned how it had been ignored by USA media.  > > K > >jesus Christ, you have proof your government lied to the american public  and L > >the USA media chose not to show this ?????? What the fuck is happening in the F > >USA ? Has everyone been anesthetised and remains totally paralysed, allowingF > >the government to do everything it wants without being challenged ? >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:39:44 GMT * From: Steven Fisher <sdfisher@spamcop.net>, Subject: Re: To all "patriotic" americans...6 Message-ID: <0001HW.BC254EAF0003F2C1F02845B0@shawnews>  5 On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:40:07 -0800, Nomen Nescio wrote : (in message <d85d3690b07ae9b1058bab9791d3b0ec@dizum.com>):  N > JF, it's selfish of you to only share your wisdom with rec.travel.air alone  > and N > leave out your friends in the other groups you frequent.  Surely they would  > want: > to read such precious gems as this too, don't you think?  L No, really, that's fine. I don't care. Keep your flame war/crap/whatever to K your own group, or better yet just drop it. Who really gives a flying f***?    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:20:49 GMT  From: "None" <none@nospam.org>, Subject: Re: To all "patriotic" americans...A Message-ID: <RvWLb.1581$1e.1038@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>   I It should be noted that this carnegie outfit is in no way affiliated with C the university, and is actually based in Moscow, USSR, with a $$$$$  collections office in D.C.    : JF Mezei, in nobody <nobody@nobody.com> disguise, wrote in 3FFE74F9.8DD770F@nobody.com   D all patriotic americans who strongly believe that their government's	 > actions H > > >were honest and necessary to preserve the United States, you should take > a $ > > >look at the following document: > > > H > > >http://www.ceip.org/files/Publications/IraqReport3.asp?from=pubdate > > > C > > >This is from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a 
 washington? > > >think tank which has spent 6 months researching the issue.  > > > F > > >While you may choose to disbelieve your allies outside the USA to protect  > yourJ > > >own government, perhaps there is a chance you might believe a serious > report0 > > >prepared by americans in the United States. > > >  > > > I > > >The BBC reported the issuance of this report, and as part of the BBC 	 > report, ; > > >it was mentioned how it had been ignored by USA media.  > > > F > > >jesus Christ, you have proof your government lied to the american public > and K > > >the USA media chose not to show this ?????? What the fuck is happening  in > the H > > >USA ? Has everyone been anesthetised and remains totally paralysed,
 > allowingH > > >the government to do everything it wants without being challenged ? > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:21:46 GMT ! From: devil <devil@attglobal.net> , Subject: Re: To all "patriotic" americans...: Message-ID: <pan.2004.01.10.18.21.36.560481@attglobal.net>  / On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:20:49 +0000, None wrote:   K > It should be noted that this carnegie outfit is in no way affiliated with E > the university, and is actually based in Moscow, USSR, with a $$$$$  > collections office in D.C.  , Yes, right.  For a dose of reality, look at:  . http://www.ceip.org/files/about/about_home.asp  A Founded in 1910.  By the same Andrew Carnegie who established the  university, presumably.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:21:42 GMT % From: Roger Ivie <rivie@ridgenet.net>   Subject: Re: VAXstation question3 Message-ID: <slrnc00d56.65q.rivie@Stench.no.domain>   H In article <dd8c4466.0401091818.31c5f296@posting.google.com>, Ben wrote:H > I have a VAXstation 4000 VLC which runs VMS 5.something quite nicely. H > I originally purchased it to learn VMS, but since I come from the UNIXG > side, am finding it quite difficult to adapt.  Straight (v7) UNIX was E > ported to the VAX quite early on, in the form of 32/v, which can be F > obtained from www.tuhs.org.  Anyone know if the VAXstations or other= > non-11/7xx VAXen are capable of running 32/v?  Thanks much!   B If all you're looking for is Unix and aren't particularly attached? to 32/v for some reason, try NetBSD. See http://www.netbsd.org/   E I haven't run it on a VLC, since I've never seen one of those beasts.  --  
 Roger Ivie rivie@ridgenet.net- (Rated a 10 on the Fox Scale of Forth-Hatred)    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:57:25 +0000 (UTC) % From: bdc@world.std.com (Brian Chase) 5 Subject: Re: VMS naming conventions for disk volumes? ( Message-ID: <btpee4$pc6$1@pcls4.std.com>  + In article <btn90a$aam$1@news01.intel.com>, . Ken Fairfield  <My.Full.Name@intel.com> wrote:  D > Once you've got your VLC booted, take a look at the logical names,B > SYS$SYSROOT, SYS$SPECIFIC and SYS$COMMON, and their relationship9 > to SYS$MANAGER, SYS$SYSTEM, SYS$LIBRARY, SYS$HELP, etc.  > < > Then create a file in SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSMGR] and copy it toE > SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR].  Then do a $ DIRECTORY SYS$MANAGER:<the file>. ? > As a second exercise, $ SET DEFAULT SYS$MANAGER: and create a > > new file.  Do a DIRECTORY to see where it was created.  This > should be enlightening. :-)   D Yes, definitely.  It took me a minute to visualize all the relations	 properly.   = > One thing you must be aware of in using search-list logical < > names: _new_ files will be (must be) created _only_ in the= > first translation (member) of the search list.  (However, c > > reating a new version of an existing file, e.g., by editing,= > will write the new version back to the same location as the < > previous version.) Search lists are great for read access;> > they can be confusing to difficult if you need write access.  H Well I can see where some confusing situations might arise, but it's notI too bad if you keep the rules in mind.  I think those sorts of issues are F unavoidable when dealing with 1-->N mappings.  Still, I expect I'll beE getting caught by this more than a few times before I get used to it.    -brian.  --  F --- Brian Chase | bdc@world.std.com | http://world.std.com/~bdc/ ----->       IBM 1130 Club Motto:  "Computer People Are Happy People"   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:20:52 -0600 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>5 Subject: Re: VMS naming conventions for disk volumes? / Message-ID: <00A2BAFC.A73AC58F.3@tachysoft.com>   & >From: bdc@world.std.com (Brian Chase) >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms6 >Subject: Re: VMS naming conventions for disk volumes?, >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:57:25 +0000 (UTC)  , >In article <btn90a$aam$1@news01.intel.com>,/ >Ken Fairfield  <My.Full.Name@intel.com> wrote:  > E >> Once you've got your VLC booted, take a look at the logical names, C >> SYS$SYSROOT, SYS$SPECIFIC and SYS$COMMON, and their relationship : >> to SYS$MANAGER, SYS$SYSTEM, SYS$LIBRARY, SYS$HELP, etc. >>  = >> Then create a file in SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSMGR] and copy it to F >> SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR].  Then do a $ DIRECTORY SYS$MANAGER:<the file>.@ >> As a second exercise, $ SET DEFAULT SYS$MANAGER: and create a? >> new file.  Do a DIRECTORY to see where it was created.  This  >> should be enlightening. :-) > E >Yes, definitely.  It took me a minute to visualize all the relations 
 >properly. > > >> One thing you must be aware of in using search-list logical= >> names: _new_ files will be (must be) created _only_ in the > >> first translation (member) of the search list.  (However, c? >> reating a new version of an existing file, e.g., by editing, > >> will write the new version back to the same location as the= >> previous version.) Search lists are great for read access; ? >> they can be confusing to difficult if you need write access.  > I >Well I can see where some confusing situations might arise, but it's not J >too bad if you keep the rules in mind.  I think those sorts of issues areG >unavoidable when dealing with 1-->N mappings.  Still, I expect I'll be F >getting caught by this more than a few times before I get used to it. >   N Those of us who have been using vms since version 1.0 circa 1978 sometimes get caught by it.  :-)    M The file I have the most problems with is dcltables.  Sometimes this is found K in sys$specific, sometimes in sys$common.  You have to check where it is if : your product updates dcltables, because if you just updateO sys$system:dcltables, you will create a new one in specific instead of updating  the one in common.    O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== B Jed Clampett, checking into hotel: "This place got a cement pond?", 	Ellie May: "And do yuh let critters in it?"   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Jan 2004 02:17:38 -0800' From: simon.adaway@ukaea.org.uk (Simon) - Subject: Re: VMS to VMS copying between Nodes = Message-ID: <b2d9b89e.0401100217.741f6cb2@posting.google.com>   j "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote in message news:<MCELKPMOKPMNDNKJNIONOEKMCIAA.win@fom.fgan.de>... > Hello, > Q > sorry, why does nobody say, you have to define the hosts database. Unknown host P > means, that there ist no local host database or DNS server which can translateJ > the hostname to IP address. Did you try to use the IP address instead ofP > hostname? If you have proxies (TCP/IP proxies) enabled, the best way is to use$ > RCP as transfer tool (RemoteCoPy). >  > Best regards R. Wingert   
 R.Wingert,  F Yes there is a local host database (with valid entries) but it doesn'tF seem to be looking at it in this context (it seems to be assuming thatF LAT is present). IP addresses are not handled by node-to-node copying.? RCP works, but the file is unreadable at the destination. Gives F 'invalid header' messages and it seems to have little or no options to try?.   : Any help getting RCP to work would be appreciated as well.   Simon    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Jan 2004 02:18:08 -0800' From: simon.adaway@ukaea.org.uk (Simon) - Subject: Re: VMS to VMS copying between Nodes < Message-ID: <b2d9b89e.0401100218.14e39e0@posting.google.com>  j "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote in message news:<MCELKPMOKPMNDNKJNIONOEKMCIAA.win@fom.fgan.de>... > Hello, > Q > sorry, why does nobody say, you have to define the hosts database. Unknown host P > means, that there ist no local host database or DNS server which can translateJ > the hostname to IP address. Did you try to use the IP address instead ofP > hostname? If you have proxies (TCP/IP proxies) enabled, the best way is to use$ > RCP as transfer tool (RemoteCoPy). >  > Best regards R. Wingert   
 R.Wingert,  F Yes there is a local host database (with valid entries) but it doesn'tF seem to be looking at it in this context (it seems to be assuming thatF LAT is present). IP addresses are not handled by node-to-node copying.? RCP works, but the file is unreadable at the destination. Gives F 'invalid header' messages and it seems to have little or no options to try?.   : Any help getting RCP to work would be appreciated as well.   Simon    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Jan 2004 02:18:01 -0800' From: simon.adaway@ukaea.org.uk (Simon) - Subject: Re: VMS to VMS copying between Nodes = Message-ID: <b2d9b89e.0401100218.2b56b6cc@posting.google.com>   j "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote in message news:<MCELKPMOKPMNDNKJNIONOEKMCIAA.win@fom.fgan.de>... > Hello, > Q > sorry, why does nobody say, you have to define the hosts database. Unknown host P > means, that there ist no local host database or DNS server which can translateJ > the hostname to IP address. Did you try to use the IP address instead ofP > hostname? If you have proxies (TCP/IP proxies) enabled, the best way is to use$ > RCP as transfer tool (RemoteCoPy). >  > Best regards R. Wingert   
 R.Wingert,  F Yes there is a local host database (with valid entries) but it doesn'tF seem to be looking at it in this context (it seems to be assuming thatF LAT is present). IP addresses are not handled by node-to-node copying.? RCP works, but the file is unreadable at the destination. Gives F 'invalid header' messages and it seems to have little or no options to try?.   : Any help getting RCP to work would be appreciated as well.   Simon    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:07:06 +0000  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> M Subject: Re: Well Andrew, "3" count them "3" security patches for VMS in five 4 Message-ID: <btoisb$oe3$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk>   Keith Cayemberg wrote:   > [... snip ...] > B > By the way, that was not by any means a complete list of OpenVMS. > design advantages.  It was only a beginning.   [... snip ...]  	 > Cheers!  >  > Keith Cayemberg + > IBM Business Services - Hannover, Germany     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-)  / Beautifully written, and spot on.  Hear, hear !   	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.019 ************************