0 INFO-VAX	Sun, 18 Jan 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 35      Contents: Re: 500.000 AMD64's shipped...P Re: Faced with flagging PC sales,  HPand others are pushing aggressively aggress Re: Freeware CD - DFU install  Re: Freeware CD - DFU install  Re: Freeware CD - DFU install . Re: How many file header does indexf.sys have?3 Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+ 3 Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+ ' Re: Minimum Privs for Changing Password  Re: OPC DA client ; openvms error message "no operating system selection found" ? Re: openvms error message "no operating system selection found"  Re: telnet problem? ' Re: VAXELN-to-VxWorks portability layer   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:26:42 -0000 % From: "L. Blunt" <withheld@my.choice> ' Subject: Re: 500.000 AMD64's shipped... ; Message-ID: <400a8907$0$10059$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>   7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:40086E2E.A2F67871@istop.com...  > Rob Young wrote:D > >         You are either deliberately missing or overlooking whereC > >         high-end (read: 64-bit Enterprise) computing is headed.  > > K > >         Intel has Spink and Bannon and Emer and crew.  It isn't much of K > >         a stretch to assume there is a future Itanium chip that has all . > >         the features of EV7 and then some, >  > K > And you are either deliberately missing or overlooking where those former  > Decies are actually working. > K > Consider that AMD's offering already has many Alpha features inside, such  asL > glue etc. Consider that Intel will have to ramp up its 32 bit 8086 into 64 > bits very soon now.  > B > My money is on the ex dec engineers being involved with the 8086 architectureB > more than with IA64. Their experience and mentality is much more
 compatibleF > with the 8086, especially since the 8086 already includes much alphaL > technology (remember when palmer pardonned Intel for having stoled all the  > Alpha stuff for its pentium ?) > K > The IA64 engineers already have official access to the Alpha technologies  theyF > think could be implemented. But the Alpha engineers are used to RISCJ > platforms, not EPIC stuff. So, if you are intel, and you have a bunch ofK > really smart RISC engineers from whom's you've already stolen much IP for  the J > 8086, it then makes sense to put those to work on the 8086 and then come out I > with something that will make AMD's 64 bit 8086 look like a microvax I.   J This reminds me of that bit in "Ice Station Zebra" where they descried theK America camera designed by their German engineers, which used film designed K by the British with their German engineers, that was stolen by the Russians F and launched unto orbit by a rocket built by their German engineers :)  E We just have Intel hoping to get EPIC/x86 made better by their ex-DEC I engineers, to counter AMD who have K7 (Athlon) and now K8 (Opeteron/Athon - 64) that was built by their ex-DEC engineers.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:54:18 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>Y Subject: Re: Faced with flagging PC sales,  HPand others are pushing aggressively aggress - Message-ID: <871xpxofo5.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   * bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  D > But I did think I vaguely remembered HP have something called PARC > just like Xerox.  ? HP Research Labs, Palo Alto. Look in the old DECUS atendee list ; and you will find several well known names from there. They / used to have a shed load of 780s for one thing.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:35:38 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> & Subject: Re: Freeware CD - DFU install9 Message-ID: <budm3d$gg0ad$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>   # On 2004-01-18 06:36, "Alder" wrote:   : > Is it me or is something wrong with the PRODUCT utility? > K > I want to install the DFU utility off the freeware CDROM (at HP's site),   > but I this message comes up: >  > ....G > %PCSI-W-SFTREF, product DEC AXPVMS DFU V3.0 references DEC AXPVMS VMS G > -PCSI-W-SFTRF1, referenced product is not installed and a kit is not   > available  > .... > % > What software am I missing exactly?   D According to the output given VMS is missing -- but then it would beI very strange you can call PRODUCT INSTALL without VMS being installed ;-)    > [...]  > F > %PCSIUI-E-ABORT, operation terminated due to an unrecoverable error  > condition   , No, I don't have a solution to your problem.   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:42:00 +0800 - From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> & Subject: Re: Freeware CD - DFU install* Message-ID: <400A8D28.5010805@bigpond.com>   Michael Unger wrote:% > On 2004-01-18 06:36, "Alder" wrote:  >  > : >>Is it me or is something wrong with the PRODUCT utility? >>K >>I want to install the DFU utility off the freeware CDROM (at HP's site),   >>but I this message comes up: >> >>....G >>%PCSI-W-SFTREF, product DEC AXPVMS DFU V3.0 references DEC AXPVMS VMS G >>-PCSI-W-SFTRF1, referenced product is not installed and a kit is not   >>available  >>.... >>% >>What software am I missing exactly?  >  > F > According to the output given VMS is missing -- but then it would beK > very strange you can call PRODUCT INSTALL without VMS being installed ;-)  >  >  >>[...]  >>F >>%PCSIUI-E-ABORT, operation terminated due to an unrecoverable error  >>condition  >  > . > No, I don't have a solution to your problem. > 	 > Michael  >   + I think DFU 3.0 requires VMS 7.3-1 or later    Regards, Dave.  --  I David B Sneddon (dbs)  OpenVMS Systems Programmer   dbsneddon@bigpond.com I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/ I DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:58:23 -0600 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>& Subject: Re: Freeware CD - DFU installT Message-ID: <craigberry-30491F.07582318012004@dsl081-159-101.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net>  + In article <CXoOb.28566$Eq.11782@clgrps12>, *  Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> wrote:   > ... G > %PCSI-W-SFTREF, product DEC AXPVMS DFU V3.0 references DEC AXPVMS VMS G > -PCSI-W-SFTRF1, referenced product is not installed and a kit is not   > available  > ...  > % > What software am I missing exactly?   > VMS 7.3-1 or later, which is a prerequisite for DFU 3.0.  The C freeware_readme.txt seems to be deficient since it doesn't mention  F that, but it's mentioned in the restrictions in on-line help once you H install the product (which you can't do!).  Stay with DFU 2.7 until you  can upgrade VMS.   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 08:57:08 -0800 From: mb301@hotmail.com (MB)7 Subject: Re: How many file header does indexf.sys have? < Message-ID: <1d08b916.0401180857.ed2b5ef@posting.google.com>  u norm.raphael@metso.com wrote in message news:<OF617730D8.79049914-ON85256E1D.004F8A9D-85256E1D.00507829@metso.com>...  > OpenVMS V7.3-1 Alpha, ODS2 >  > From DFU Report MA101  > H >       ***** Volume info for ODS2 volume MA101: (from HOME block) *****, >  Volume name                      :  MA101% >  Volume owner                     : % >  Volume set name                  : . >  Highwater mark. / Erase on del.  :  No / No) >  Cluster size                     :  10 - >  Maximum # files                  :  900000 + >  Header count                     :  2010 * >  First header VBN                 :  261* >  Free headers                     :  845 >  > Also > . > $ DUMP/HEAD/BL=EN=0 MA101:[000000]INDEXF.SYS >  > D > Dump of file MA101:[000000]INDEXF.SYS;1 on 16-JAN-2004 08:35:43.83= > File ID (1,1,0)   End of file block 2270 / Allocated 450260  > * >                              File Header >  > [snip] > 
 > Map area >     Retrieval pointers2 >         Count:         20        LBN:          02 >         Count:         10        LBN:       10302 >         Count:         10        LBN:   182292902 >         Count:     450220        LBN:   17779070 > 1 > Checksum:                                 38409  > H > This tells me I have 450,000 preallocated headers and a max of 900,000 > files. > E > brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon) wrote on 01/16/2004 09:23:47 AM:  > J > > > How do you find out how many file headers you have in the indexf.sys >  file? > > K > > I have a disk drives that was just initialized with /HEADERS=400000 and  >  this  > > is the result: > >  > > Directory $1$DGA5:[000000] > > H > > INDEXF.SYS;1                               77193/402183  15-JAN-2004 > > 15:24:45.17  > >  > >  > >  > > J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  > > VMS Systems Administrator . > > firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com      A Well I am just trying to find out how many file headers have been C reserved.  So it appears that the allocation size of the file is in 0 fact the number of file headers is this correct?  > INDEXF.SYS;1           18280/74375     21-AUG-2001 09:41:47.93  " So I am guessing someone did this.  " $ init/header=74000 $1$dga5: data1  . $ DUMP/HEAD/BL=EN=0 $1$dga5:[000000]indexf.sys .  Map area     Retrieval pointers0         Count:         70        LBN:          00         Count:         35        LBN:       10150         Count:         35        LBN:   177795100         Count:        140        LBN:   177784950         Count:      74095        LBN:   21333095  / Checksum:                                 60908    $ dfu report $1$dga5:  . +  Maximum # files                  :  493838 *  Header count                     :  18019(  First header VBN                 :  262*  Free headers                     :  163192  File fragmentation index         :  2.343  (fair) .    Regards  Mark   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 00:26:41 -0800+ From: franco2807@hotmail.com (Ofer Frenkel) < Subject: Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+= Message-ID: <28b67149.0401180026.72465c4c@posting.google.com>   M healyzh@aracnet.com wrote in message news:<bua6sq02edf@enews4.newsguy.com>... . > Ofer Frenkel <franco2807@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, 7 > > I need a monitoring utility for a couple of months. K > > It should be either a freeware or very cheap since i can't afford much.  > J > What are you trying to monitor?  Try "MONITOR ALL" or "MONITOR CLUSTER". >  > 		Zane  J I need a centeral application that can monitor a couple of remote servers. info i want to monitor: , memory,disks,db (+select queries),processes.   thanks.    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 01:07:21 -08007 From: jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net (Daryl Jones) < Subject: Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+= Message-ID: <8a646952.0401180107.2133d295@posting.google.com>   p franco2807@hotmail.com (Ofer Frenkel) wrote in message news:<28b67149.0401161602.7d16a6fb@posting.google.com>... > Hi, 5 > I need a monitoring utility for a couple of months. I > It should be either a freeware or very cheap since i can't afford much.    Dear Ofer Frenkel:  & I believe DECamds is free with VMS 7+.   Regards, Daryl Jones    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:32:42 +0100 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> 0 Subject: Re: Minimum Privs for Changing Password9 Message-ID: <budnjo$gjgic$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   4 Correct, provided that MAXSYSGROUP was not modified.  5 "konabear" <maurert@ameritech.net> schreef in bericht ; news:aZWNb.30469$P%1.24874821@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com... K > All the is needed to modify a password using authorize is write access to L > SYSUAF.DAT.  That's it.  So an ACL to allow a user write access means they > need no privs. > L > HOWEVER once write access is granted to SYSUAF, more than passwords can beK > changed.  New users and be added, old ones removed, privileges granted to J > the very nonpriv'd account that the ACL was added for.  So the ACL route- > isn't any more secure than granting SYSPRV.  > J > BTW, one could also give the nonpriv'd user's account a UIC group numberK > less than Octal 10.  So the account will have no privileges.  However any I > process with a group number less than Octal 10 has equivalent of SYSPRV 
 > granted. >  > Todd6 > "Rick Dyson" <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> wrote in message- > news:HrLBDu.DGq@sysadm.physics.uiowa.edu... L > > This is a fundamental question and I am embarassed to have to ask, but I > > am in a hurry. :)  > > L > > What minimum privs would a user need to be able to change someone else's > > password via Authorize?  > > I > > Does anyone have any quick suggestions on a method for this that does G > > not need to elevate a low user to SYSPRV (or such)?  Something that ' > > could be up and running right away?  > >  > > Thanks!  > > rick > >  >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Jan 2004 23:24:19 -08000 From: keith.cayemberg@conti.de (Keith Cayemberg) Subject: Re: OPC DA client= Message-ID: <3a65a5c8.0401172324.6335b9fa@posting.google.com>    Hi Jean,  F I did some more looking around and found a few more links which may be relevent to your question...  + GE Fanuc Automation: DataViews for Unix/VMS < http://www.gefanucautomation.com/products/dataviews/unix.asp  B By the way, I'm almost certain that I remember that BASEstar has aE graphical process visualization interface for DECwindos on OpenVMS in F addition to the Windows-based HMI GUI from a demonstration at CeBit inF Hanover last year. BASEstar also integrates with OPC as a Server. Here4 are a few more pertinent URLs concerning BASEstar...   BASEstar Homepage I http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/software/solutions/basestar/index.html   ( BASEstar - Device Access Software (DAS) K http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/software/solutions/basestar/odevint.html    BASEstar OPC Server G http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/software/solutions/basestar/opc.html    BASEstar HMI - PDF Broshure 9 ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/software/hmi_glossy.pdf    Vista Control Systems, Inc.  http://www.vista-control.com/ 0 http://www.vista-control.com/open_interfaces.htmA http://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/pac97/papers/pdf/6P041.PDF   , Matrikon GenCS - Hewlett-Packard RTAP Client6 http://www.matrikon.com/drivers/Details.asp?driver=286   Matrikon GenCS - VB Test Client 6 http://www.matrikon.com/drivers/Details.asp?driver=290   Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg . IBM Business Services GmbH - Hannover, Germany   Disclaimer: = As I have not personally used any of these products, I do not B recommend, endorse or vouch for any of these products in regard to3 their quality or usefulness for a specific purpose.    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 00:21:47 -0800. From: shakeelj2k@yahoo.com (shakeel-ur-rehman)D Subject: openvms error message "no operating system selection found"< Message-ID: <cb950e29.0401180021.69888a5@posting.google.com>  A i have a dec alpha 433 au hardware plateform with running openvms ) 7.1.during bootup screen show the message % "no operating system selection found" F i have removed the hard disk cable then again booted then system showsE that no on line disk available.then on again connecting the hard disk D cable and then going to hard disk setup shows message that disk 0 no partition found B can anyone help me what to do.Is hard disk partition is destroyed. Shakeel    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:35:31 +0100 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> H Subject: Re: openvms error message "no operating system selection found"9 Message-ID: <budnp1$ghtrg$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   = "shakeel-ur-rehman" <shakeelj2k@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht 6 news:cb950e29.0401180021.69888a5@posting.google.com...C > i have a dec alpha 433 au hardware plateform with running openvms + > 7.1.during bootup screen show the message ' > "no operating system selection found" H > i have removed the hard disk cable then again booted then system showsG > that no on line disk available.then on again connecting the hard disk F > cable and then going to hard disk setup shows message that disk 0 no > partition found D > can anyone help me what to do.Is hard disk partition is destroyed.	 > Shakeel   H Is it possible to give us more information, like the output you see from these commands:    >>> SHOW CONFIG    >>> SHOW DEVICE    Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:36:02 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: telnet problem?) Message-ID: <400A2927.9992C416@istop.com>   / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: H > Normally, I have no need to do so, but I find it strange that I cannotC > telnet to the external address of the router from a machine in my  > cluster.      M This is quite normal for more consumer routers with NAT.  They only NAT TCPIP N traffice coming from the WAN port. Your connection is coming from the LAN portN and your router doesn't apply any logic to send the call back to your LAN with a different address.  L In my case, NETGEAR 314, any connection to my public address from inside the. LAN goes to the router itself  (http, telnet).  L What you need to do is to make sure that inside your LAN, all machines use aG local DNS server that has all the local IP adresses for the host names.    ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jan 2004 18:12:42 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>0 Subject: Re: VAXELN-to-VxWorks portability layer5 Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-usPhc92Q0n0Q@localhost>   6 On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:13:09 UTC, "Stanley F. Quayle"  <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote:   J > > > I recall that Digital offered a VAXELN portability layer for VxWorksI > > > at one point.  Presumably, that disappeared as a product long ago.  H > > > Was the source for it ever released?  If so, would one someone whoB > > > has it be willing to provide me with a copy?  This isn't for? > > > commercial use; it's really just to satisfy my curiosity. G > > ISTR that I found a ref. to it somewhere out on the WWW. I've never B > > been able to find it agin tho'. For me,   it was to assess its7 > > viability as a route to another (VxWorks) platform.  > 3 > You could always use CHARON-VAX [Shameless Plug]!   E As Robert knows, that's a possible route. I'm just snowed under with  C current VMS and ELN stuff to check it out and have been for over a   year.    --   Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.035 ************************