0 INFO-VAX	Mon, 19 Jan 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 36      Contents: Re: Detaching processes on VMS Re: Freeware CD - DFU install  Re: IP Address problems  Re: IP Address problems 3 Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+ 3 Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+ 3 Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+  Re: Mozilla on Alpha question  Re: Mozilla on Alpha question  Re: Mozilla on Alpha question  Re: OT Spam + Re: stupid (Attempted) backup tricks (long) + Re: stupid (Attempted) backup tricks (long) " tcpip: reading command from a file& Re: tcpip: reading command from a file& Re: tcpip: reading command from a file& Re: tcpip: reading command from a file Re: UTF-8 on VAX-VMS' Re: VAXELN-to-VxWorks portability layer . Re: VOLUME SHADOW over FDDI using Alpha and CI- Re: What is mystery object in VMS screensaver $ What type of memory is used in DS10?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:06:57 +0000 (UTC) % From: bdc@world.std.com (Brian Chase) ' Subject: Re: Detaching processes on VMS ( Message-ID: <bufe40$v18$1@pcls4.std.com>  0 In article <4007FBD9.1F10D2B4@sture.homeip.net>,, Paul Sture  <nospam@sture.homeip.net> wrote:  - > Are you aware of the MultiSessions product?  > 5 > http://www.networkingdynamics.com/MultiSessions.htm  > H > It's a commercial product, and from the description it looks as thoughF > it only works for sessions invoked from a single terminal - i.e. youI > can't pick up a session started by another terminal. I have not used it # > myself, so can't comment further.   F Based on the description, this would seem to be very close to what theD screen util offers.  If I were administering VMS professionally, I'dD probably be willing to pay for this.  My gut tells me, based on the E licensing schemes mentioned, that they're not offering MultiSessions  = at a cost that'd be sensible for someone just mucking around.    -brian.  --  F --- Brian Chase | bdc@world.std.com | http://world.std.com/~bdc/ -----5                    Do not fold, mutilate, or spindle.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:13:29 GMT ( From: Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com>& Subject: Re: Freeware CD - DFU install( Message-ID: <tVAOb.28662$Eq.56@clgrps12>   David B Sneddon wrote::  > - > I think DFU 3.0 requires VMS 7.3-1 or later  >   F Ah yes, that would explain the 'missing' VMS.  I did try upgrading to F 7.3-1 once, but my CDROM burning skills leave a little to be desired. < Got the same image size as the source, but it wouldn't boot.   Maybe next month...   , Thanks for the news on DFU.  You too, Craig.   Alder    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 11:18:42 -0800% From: whohe@whoever.com (DL Phillips)   Subject: Re: IP Address problems= Message-ID: <af0dc2ea.0401181118.500ee809@posting.google.com>   [ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message news:<400884A7.52301F77@istop.com>...  > DL Phillips wrote:L > > It looks to me like 172.16.26.126 is not in your 172.16.26.0/25 network, >  > I don't understand.  > P > doesn't 172.16.26.0/25 means that the last only the first bit of the last byteM >  set to 0, is part of of network, and the remaining 7 bits are "variable" ?  > L > If so, since 126 fits in 7 bits with the 8th bit set to 0, wouldn't 126 be > part of the above network ?  > N > Or is theresomething I misunderstand about the 172.16.26.0/25 nomemclature ? > U > (I realise that in such a network, 127 would be reserved for the broadcast address)  > --    C You're right about that. Sorry. The /25 indicates that the *binary* : mask of the network is 11111111.11111111.11111111.10000000  F This means that any host IP addresss within that network must match inD all of the 1's positions of the network's IP. The ~.0/25 does indeedC mean that .0 through .128 are in the network. Sorry for my misread.   C Now that IP networks are no longer called class A B C etc., and now E use CIDR designations, or Classless (Internet Domain Resolution ?) by E indicating the number of bits in the mask, things should be easier to ) remember. (operative words: Should Be :-)       DL Phillips   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jan 2004 19:25:57 GMT( From: ka2doug@cs.commoc.sc (DL Phillips)  Subject: Re: IP Address problems> Message-ID: <20040118142557.13501.00000151@mb-m24.news.cs.com>   >> DL Phillips wrote:  >The ~.0/25 does indeed / >mean that .0 through .128 are in the network.     Geesh, I meant .0 through .127  * I'm going back to lurking (you're welcome)    DL Phillips   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:14:18 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>< Subject: Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+6 Message-ID: <400B134A.3938960D@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Ofer Frenkel wrote:  > O > healyzh@aracnet.com wrote in message news:<bua6sq02edf@enews4.newsguy.com>... 0 > > Ofer Frenkel <franco2807@hotmail.com> wrote:	 > > > Hi, 9 > > > I need a monitoring utility for a couple of months. M > > > It should be either a freeware or very cheap since i can't afford much.  > > L > > What are you trying to monitor?  Try "MONITOR ALL" or "MONITOR CLUSTER". > >  > >               Zane > L > I need a centeral application that can monitor a couple of remote servers. > info i want to monitor: . > memory,disks,db (+select queries),processes.  H Well, VMS-wise, be aware: MONITOR (therefore, T4) does not report memory? statistics (the MEMORY class disppeared circa. V6 or so, IIRC).    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:14:58 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>< Subject: Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+6 Message-ID: <400B1372.9D2077A7@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Daryl Jones wrote: > r > franco2807@hotmail.com (Ofer Frenkel) wrote in message news:<28b67149.0401161602.7d16a6fb@posting.google.com>... > > Hi, 7 > > I need a monitoring utility for a couple of months. K > > It should be either a freeware or very cheap since i can't afford much.  >  > Dear Ofer Frenkel: > ( > I believe DECamds is free with VMS 7+.  $ I believe AMDS is free with Vany.any   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 22:33:45 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) < Subject: Re: Looking for a monitoring utility for OpenVMS 7+3 Message-ID: <8qEZYnPv1BL4@eisner.encompasserve.org>   y In article <400B1372.9D2077A7@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> writes:  > Daryl Jones wrote: >>  s >> franco2807@hotmail.com (Ofer Frenkel) wrote in message news:<28b67149.0401161602.7d16a6fb@posting.google.com>...  >> > Hi,8 >> > I need a monitoring utility for a couple of months.L >> > It should be either a freeware or very cheap since i can't afford much. >>   >> Dear Ofer Frenkel:  >>  ) >> I believe DECamds is free with VMS 7+.  > & > I believe AMDS is free with Vany.any  = I don't see how retroactive LMF checking could possibly work.    ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jan 04 15:11:23 EST) From: cook@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook) & Subject: Re: Mozilla on Alpha question! Message-ID: <3jSxIQqkgomA@wvnvms>   q In article <bucfbf$fmate$1@ID-209632.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Martin P.J. Zinser" <zinser@zinser.no-ip.info> writes:  > George Cook wrote: > H >> FWIW, the last release of VMS Mosaic came out in 2000.  A new releaseF >> with support for IA64, HP SSL, Motif (1.2-6 thru 1.4-1), 24-bit BMP: >> images, etc. will be out in the not too distant future. >>   >>  I > This is absolutly great!!! Will you revive the VMS-Mosaic mailing list  = > once you have something you want others to comment/work on?  >   E The list is still up, but there has been nothing but spam on it since D 2002.  I don't manage it and don't know how many people (if any) areG still on it other than myself.  The next release will be announced both E here and on the mailing list when it is ready, and I will continue to ; monitor and respond to comments/questions sent to the list.      George   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:46:28 GMT  From: "test" <russ@dittmer.com> & Subject: Re: Mozilla on Alpha question. Message-ID: <oVEOb.80783$sv6.189153@attbi_s52>   Yes sir B I've actually invoke it from that directory with the same command. RD    5 "Alder" <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> wrote in message % news:OmHNb.19272$Eq.14143@clgrps12...  > dittmer@attg.net wrote::8 > > I am having difficulty getting Mozilla v 1.4 to run.J > > It apprears to have installed properly, but when I invoke @mozilla, it saysC > > running mozilla.bin, and then comes back to the command prompt.  > > > You're invoking it by running the COM file provided, right ? > $ > $ @SYS$COMMON:[MOZILLA]MOZILLA.COM >  > Alder  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 03:24:10 GMT  From: "test" <russ@dittmer.com> & Subject: Re: Mozilla on Alpha question. Message-ID: <u5IOb.82038$sv6.192677@attbi_s52>   Ok  L I tried the $ set verify, and while I recieved the entire command process, II didn;t see anything clearly out of the ordinary.  Mind you, I am very VMS  rusty...  4 Here's what showed on the  prod show prod * command:  ! ADVANCEDSERVER V7.3-A     FULL LP 2 GTK V1.2-10                                FULL LP/ MOZILLA M1.4                            FULL LP 1 OPL V1.0-0A6                              FULL LP 7 BNU V2.1                                        FULL LP - DWMOTIF V1.2-6                        FULL LP + HYPERHELP V5.1-2                    FULL LP ' NS_NAV_EXPORT V3.0-3            FULL LP 8 ODL V2.1                                        PLATFORM0 OPENVMS V7.3                            PLATFORM4 TCPIP V5.1-15                                FULL LP; VMS V7.3                                        OPER SYSTEM   I That's it so far.  I have noticed on the Mozilla page something about SDK I java, but it doesn't indicate it is required.  Is this misleading?  Did I J miss a requirement or something?  I read the page a dozen times, and still can't find anything I missed.   K I have 2 goals here, first to get the system up and running on the net with I a browser, and second, to find all my old favorite games from my VMS days % and install them to play via the web.   J I found a site, openvmshobbyist, and when I tried to DL the files and xferI them from my PC to the Alpha, backup did not could not unpack them.  I am K guessing it had something to do with the ftp issues, and yes I set the file B type to binary first.  I've made that mistake way too often <G>...  ! Thanks again for any other ideas.    RD      G <dittmer@attg.net> wrote in message news:40073172_4@news1.prserv.net...  > Hello  > 0 > I have a DEC Alpha 500/333 with Open VMS v 7.3 > Console v 7.2-2  > TCPIP 5.1-15 > DecWindows Motif v 1.2-6 > and 320 meg of memory  > 6 > I am having difficulty getting Mozilla v 1.4 to run.H > It apprears to have installed properly, but when I invoke @mozilla, it saysA > running mozilla.bin, and then comes back to the command prompt.  > I > I was expecting a new window with the pre-installed Netscape browser to  come > up.  > , > Any ideas on how to diagnose this problem? > Any more info needed?  > I > If this is the wrong newsgroup, I appologize and would appreciate being 0 > directed to a more appropriate newsgroup area. >  > Russ > = > P.s.  I am a VMS novice to intermediate, please be patient.  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:34:56 GMT & From: Don Sykes <paladin@mydomain.com> Subject: Re: OT Spam= Message-ID: <Q5COb.12852$3W6.7837@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>    Tom Linden wrote: F > FYI,  Since adding spamhaus.org to my RBL's I have seen a noticeable > reduction in Spam.  ! Same here. My current list reads: E RBLs: bl.spamcop.net, sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, blackholes.mail-abuse.org   G If anyone knows of other good, free sites of serious anti-spam agents,  F I'd love to know about them. What I really wish is there would be ONE C authoritative agent. Maybe a positive filter, where all authentic,  G non-spamming providers would register and if your NOT on the list your   IP gets dinged.      --     Have VMS, Will Travel  Wire paladin, San Francisco    (paladinATalphaseDOTcom)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:41:19 -0600 @ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>4 Subject: Re: stupid (Attempted) backup tricks (long)6 Message-ID: <400B199F.23D6E8F2@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>   Wayne Sewell wrote:  > L > Note: this is not a bug report, or an implication that vms backup is doingM > anything wrong.  The operation attempted is invalid and not supported.  The O > only suggestion would be for backup to detect this weird condition and abort, P > or at least tell the user it is happening.  It does this in similar cases, butK > obviously the backup developers didn't visualize someone doing this.  :-)  > P > Note #2:  I did *not* do this myself.  A customer did.  I just had to diagnose- > it, because tapesys got blamed for it.  :-)  > ? > Many vms fans are familiar with the concept of a pseudo disk,   E ...and unfortunate misnomer which leads to a great deal of confusion,  such as the incident cited, ...    > which is a > concealed    ..., rooted ...   	 > logical   
 ...name...  # > that makes an arbitrary directory   , ...and the files and directories under it...   > on a real disk appear to be  > an independent disk   G ...to those users who lack sufficient privilege (DCL access) and/or VMS : knowledge to (drill down) past the concealed logical name.  D I did several takes when I first heard the expression "pseudo disk",G because at the time I already had many years of VMS experience, but had F never heard it before, nor had I encountered it in the VMS docset. TheC term was dreamed up in userland and is highly misleading as well as  totally inaccurate.   H Rooted logical names correspond roughly to the functionality provided byE the SUBST command in DOS in the PC world. This appears to add a drive A letter, but the physical device actually references another drive  letter.   D One of the common rooted logicals in the VMS system is SYS$SYSROOT:.C However, any reference to it in any command or function surrounding F $GETDVI (SHOW DEVICE, F$GETDVI(), etc.) will always return informationF about the underlying real, physical device. There is no "SYS$SYSROOT:"F device: pseudo, real or otherwise. It's a rooted logical name, period.   > [snip]  F The correct explanation of the behavior cited is that there is no suchF thing as a "pseudo disk", IMO. BACKUP's foibles are separate issue, ofE course. "Results may be unpredictable" is probably a fair disclaimer.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:23:29 -0600 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>4 Subject: Re: stupid (Attempted) backup tricks (long)/ Message-ID: <00A2C191.C7A38253.1@tachysoft.com>   & >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:41:19 -0600A >From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> ' >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U)  >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms5 >Subject: Re: stupid (Attempted) backup tricks (long)    >Wayne Sewell wrote: >>      
 >> which is a  >> concealed >  >..., rooted ... > 
 >> logical >  >...name...  >     M When did we enter tutorial mode?  The post was not targeted to people who had N never heard of vms.  Anyone who has been on vms for more than 15 minutes wouldM have figured out that "logical" meant "logical name".  If not, they wouldn't  9 have been able to understand the rest of the post anyway.      > E >One of the common rooted logicals in the VMS system is SYS$SYSROOT:. D >However, any reference to it in any command or function surroundingG >$GETDVI (SHOW DEVICE, F$GETDVI(), etc.) will always return information G >about the underlying real, physical device. There is no "SYS$SYSROOT:" G >device: pseudo, real or otherwise. It's a rooted logical name, period.  >   L I personally don't see the harm of the pseudo disk shorthand.  In most ways,M the behavior *is* similar to that of a disk, at least for file manipulation,  K which is mostly what it is used for.  Pseudo disks, like rooted logicals in L general, are somewhat handy when the target directory is several levels downL and can avoid a lot of typing. I think most people understand that it reallyL isn't a disk and device-level operations performed on it actually access the  physical disk which contains it.  K I suspect the customer that made the mistake I documented did too.  He just F didn't think things through when he set up his backup definition file.     Wayne O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== B Jed Clampett, checking into hotel: "This place got a cement pond?", 	Ellie May: "And do yuh let critters in it?"   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 11:25:44 -0800" From: horn@shsu.edu (James T Horn)+ Subject: tcpip: reading command from a file = Message-ID: <843706dc.0401181125.5ad1a80f@posting.google.com>   E We just switched from Multinet to TCPIP and found a strange behavior:     We have command files like this:   $ !Start! $ open/write tmp_file command.fil  $ write tmp_file "$ ftp / site.domain.com/user="username"/pass="password" % $ write tmp_file " cd /usr/local/dir" " $ write tmp_file " get remote.fil" $ write tmp_file " bye"  $ close tmp_file $ @command.fil  ' and this would work under Multinet 4.3a C We upgrade to TCPIP, it would not do the cd or get command. We have  had to change it to:   $ !Start! $ open/write tmp_file command.fil % $ write tmp_file " cd /usr/local/dir" " $ write tmp_file " get remote.fil" $ write tmp_file " bye"  $ close tmp_fileG $ ftp site.domain.com/user="username"/pass="password"/input=command.fil   < Is this what it is suppose to do or is there away around it?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:47:17 -0600 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>/ Subject: Re: tcpip: reading command from a file T Message-ID: <craigberry-FE3322.13471718012004@dsl081-159-101.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net>  = In article <843706dc.0401181125.5ad1a80f@posting.google.com>, $  horn@shsu.edu (James T Horn) wrote:  
 > $ !Start# > $ open/write tmp_file command.fil ' > $ write tmp_file " cd /usr/local/dir" $ > $ write tmp_file " get remote.fil" > $ write tmp_file " bye"  > $ close tmp_fileI > $ ftp site.domain.com/user="username"/pass="password"/input=command.fil  > > > Is this what it is suppose to do or is there away around it?  D With either Multinet or TCP/IP services you can avoid the temp file ! entirely by using copy/ftp. Type:    $ HELP COPY/FTP    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:15:23 -0500 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> / Subject: Re: tcpip: reading command from a file 0 Message-ID: <gtmdnQfVc9T1apfdRVn-sA@comcast.com>  C What versions of VMS and TCP/IP Services are we talking about here?   * I routinely execute command files such as:; $ FTP SITE.DOMAIN.COM /USER="username" /PASSWORD="password" 
 cd mumble/foo  ascii  get foo.bar  bin  get foo.baz  bye   ; Under VMS/Alpha V7.2-1 and TCP/IP Services V5.1 ECO Level 4   7 Also under VMS/Alpha V6.2-1H3 and UCX V4.2 ECO Level 5. I I don't generate them on the fly as you do; I use hard coded commands as  B the some transfers are done day after day with the same filename, I destination, username and password.  I'm talking to Sun Solaris (version  F unknown but I could inquire if it becomes important),  Windows NT 4.0 H and Windows 2000.  There are also a few done with  the /INPUT qualifier C but I don't write them that way myself; I prefer to debug one file   rather than two.  I It might also help to have the full and exact text of any error messages.      James T Horn wrote:   F >We just switched from Multinet to TCPIP and found a strange behavior: > ! >We have command files like this:  > 	 >$ !Start " >$ open/write tmp_file command.fil >$ write tmp_file "$ ftp0 >site.domain.com/user="username"/pass="password"& >$ write tmp_file " cd /usr/local/dir"# >$ write tmp_file " get remote.fil"  >$ write tmp_file " bye" >$ close tmp_file  >$ @command.fil  > ( >and this would work under Multinet 4.3aD >We upgrade to TCPIP, it would not do the cd or get command. We have >had to change it to:  > 	 >$ !Start " >$ open/write tmp_file command.fil& >$ write tmp_file " cd /usr/local/dir"# >$ write tmp_file " get remote.fil"  >$ write tmp_file " bye" >$ close tmp_file H >$ ftp site.domain.com/user="username"/pass="password"/input=command.fil > = >Is this what it is suppose to do or is there away around it?  >    >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:52:02 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>/ Subject: Re: tcpip: reading command from a file ) Message-ID: <400B2A2D.FDD5550A@istop.com>    James T Horn wrote: # > $ open/write tmp_file command.fil  > $ write tmp_file "$ ftp 1 > site.domain.com/user="username"/pass="password" ' > $ write tmp_file " cd /usr/local/dir" $ > $ write tmp_file " get remote.fil" > $ write tmp_file " bye"  > $ close tmp_file > $ @command.fil  O Have you tried to add a DEFINE/USER SYS$COMMAND SYS$INPUT before invoking FTP ?   K While the COPY/FTP can make things much simpler, there are limitations when N you need to do multiple copies in a batch for instance. COPY/FTP establishes aM session and terminates it. With a temporary file, you can transfer many files  in one FTP session.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:47:50 -0600 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> Subject: Re: UTF-8 on VAX-VMS T Message-ID: <craigberry-EA7684.18475018012004@dsl081-159-101.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net>  ) In article <40088143.AE47D544@istop.com>, ,  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:   > "Craig A. Berry" wrote: B > > English-speaking countries).  You have to install the optionalG > > internationalization kit in order to get the necessary conversions. % > > There are some instructions here:  > > 8 > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/commercial/c/5763p016.html > O > Wow, what a bummer. I wonder what sort of rationlisation there was for this ? 4 > Surely these files don't take up that much space ? > M > This is the type of stuff that should be made available on the VMS web site ; > (or at least in th efreeware) so that hobbysists can get   > it.   C Actually I may have steered you wrong.  There are indications in a  F later version of the doc I cited that on VAX the kit really is on the G same CD as the OS (even though on Alpha it is on the LP CD).  Look for  9 a directory with "VMSI18N" in its name on your system CD.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:38:45 -0500 0 From: Jerry Hudgins <jerry@hudgins.delete-me.us>0 Subject: Re: VAXELN-to-VxWorks portability layer: Message-ID: <TZCOb.19815$0t4.15931@bignews5.bellsouth.net>   Dave Weatherall wrote: > G > I'm just snowed under with current VMS and ELN stuff to check it out    > and have been for over a year.  F Nice to hear that someone's still working with ELN.  I worked on a lot* of ELN projects and came to appreciate it.  K For what it's worth, I dug up the order numbers for that portability layer:       VAXELN API:  QL-2JUAM-AB     doc set:     QA-2JUAA-GZ   F I'm not sure whether the API was shipped as source or as Alpha and 68K% binaries.  Probably the latter, alas.    -jch   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 12:32:39 -0800- From: soccer13player@yahoo.com (Nom de Plume) 7 Subject: Re: VOLUME SHADOW over FDDI using Alpha and CI = Message-ID: <f401eb7f.0401181232.5193f842@posting.google.com>   O > I was wondering if it would be worth my while to go back to the VOLUME SHADOW 6 > over the FDDI - or CI couple these servers together. >  > Anyone have a similiar setup?  >  >  >  > J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  > VMS Systems Administrator , > firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com  D We had FDDI and CI.  All of it has been decommissioned over the past four years.   F To confirm, you have three AlphaServers and three StorageWorks Arrays.A  If these are all located together, then it would seem to me that D using a star coupler to make everything available to everything else is a good solution.   A CI has higher maximum throughput than FDDI and it has minimum CPU F overhead as the CI adapters have intelligent interfaces.  Help prolong$ the usefulness of the 2100 at least.   JMOD   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jan 2004 17:20:17 -08000 From: chris_doran@postmaster.co.uk (Chris Doran)6 Subject: Re: What is mystery object in VMS screensaver= Message-ID: <948f0720.0401181720.6cee1945@posting.google.com>   X VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote in message news:<00A2BFC4.0C404DF6@SendSpamHere.ORG>...p > In article <b096a4ee.0401161101.5c632c58@posting.google.com>, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes:D > >Two slides after "Alpha ready" in the VMS screen saver slide showG > >there is a picture of a reddish/yellowish/greenish disk. What is it?  > > ) > >(You can get the VMS screen saver from  > > 8 > >    http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/25th/index.html >  > I get ...  > 9 > IMGACT-F-NOTNATIVE, image is not an OpenVMS Alpha image   D This is because HP, not having heard of OpenVMS Alpha, have built it for Windows instead.  C And they don't seem to have heard of high-res monitors either -- it $ all looks rather fuzzy on my VRC-21.   Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:15:05 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>- Subject: What type of memory is used in DS10? 2 Message-ID: <buf17j$49o$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>  ; I would like to know what kind of memory is used in a DS10.  Is it normal DDR266 EEC Dram ?   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.036 ************************