0 INFO-VAX	Mon, 26 Jan 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 51      Contents: Alpha 4100 power supply  Re: asspache web server  bait+ Re: Circumcision study halted due to trauma  DCPS 2.3 on OpenVMS 7.3-2 " Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ?" Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ?" Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ?" Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ?" Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ? Re: Help with VMS installation Re: Help with VMS installation Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  RE: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  RE: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!! * Re: Kay resigns: no WMDs since early 1990s Re: Kerberos login on VMS * Re: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP?* Re: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP?* RE: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP?* Re: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP? Re: Mozilla on Alpha question 7 Re: Object available. No source. Vax to Alpha Migration 7 Re: Object available. No source. Vax to Alpha Migration  RE: OpenVMS and Railways Re: OpenVMS and Railways" Parity Error on Removable MO disks& Re: Parity Error on Removable MO disks& Re: Parity Error on Removable MO disks& Re: Parity Error on Removable MO disks& Re: Parity Error on Removable MO disks Re: Rdesktop on VMS  Re: Rdesktop on VMS  Re: Rdesktop on VMS @ Re: The Register: OpenVMS among most-secure of operating systems6 Re: Trouble installing VMS AXP Hobbyist on a PWS 600au6 Re: Trouble installing VMS AXP Hobbyist on a PWS 600au Re: walking into a war zone  Re: walking into a war zone   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 10:35:25 -0800( From: Javier Henderson <javier@KJSL.COM>  Subject: Alpha 4100 power supply- Message-ID: <86isiy1rte.fsf@skylane.kjsl.com>   
 Greetings,  A I've laid my hands on an Alpha 4100. Very studly. But, it needs a @ power supply. This is purely for personal use, not for business.  A Would anyone happen to have one laying around, collecting dust...   @ Didn't think so. How about one I can borrow to test the box? I'm in the San Jose, CA area.    Thanks!    -jav   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:00:29 GMT ) From: "Rick Barry" <richard.barry@hp.com>   Subject: Re: asspache web server4 Message-ID: <hY9Rb.13031$p_1.10806@news.cpqcorp.net>  < "Ken Randell" <kenneth.randell@verizon.net> wrote in message7 news:79de9693.0401231841.2117f989@posting.google.com... 6 > "Rick Barry" <richard.barry@hp.com> wrote in message/ news:<WYbQb.12902$_66.9495@news.cpqcorp.net>...   > > Why only stream-lf  support? > > L > > The quickest way to get the first Apache 2.0 version out to users was to >  >       ^^^^^^^^ > D > I know nothing about your development cycle; only that there was aF > long time from the first beta to the first 'real' release; only thenG > to find out about numerous restrictions such as the stream-lf support ! > and lack of supporting modules.   H The stream-lf restriction was documented in the beta release. We removedF support for SUEXEC and mod_dav in the final release due to problems weK found that could not be fixed in time for release. Support will be restored  once we correct those problems.    > H > Wouldn't this porting effort be a easier if what code you had was made9 > available so other folks could lend a hand as required? G > Alternatively, who do we write to in order to ask for more support on E > your end developing this code (and for MOZILLA while we are at it)?   K A complete source code kit with build procedure for Apache 2.0 will be made < available. It's on our list and quickly bubbling to the top.  J The product manager for this space is John Ferguson. He can be reached via$ e-mail at john.l.ferguson at hp.com.  
 Rick Barry OpenVMS System Software Group  Hewlett-Packard Company 
 Nashua, NH   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:53:11 GMT  From: shark@flotsam.ca
 Subject: bait = Message-ID: <rR9Rb.74795$IF6.1887395@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>    Here you are: shark@flotsam.ca   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:58:24 -0500 & From: "John Boy" <Jonny@microsoft.com>4 Subject: Re: Circumcision study halted due to trauma7 Message-ID: <nAbRb.26830$n22.16410@nntp-post.primus.ca>   I They warned him about the dangers of crack cocaine, but he didn't listen.     7 Deep <deep_mehtaHATESSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message E news:RQ%Qb.24453$iLV.22969@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... L > For god's sake, leave your political drivel in the political arena! PeopleI > on alt.cellular.fido are here to talk about phone and related info, not  yourK > personal vendetta against JF Mezei, who ever he is! I download the groups ' > messages and all I find is this crap!  >  > Deep > * > "So Sad" <sad@very.sad> wrote in message3 > news:7FH2JB3O38011.5928356481@anonymous.poster... ) > > John Boy <Jonny@microsoft.com> wrote:  > > A > > >This site is well worth a read. And from a reputable source.  > > >  > > > ? > > >http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9712/23/circumcision.anesthetic/  > > : > > Uh oh!  M e z e i is not going to be happy about this! > > F > > He wants all those millions of little boys out there to be able toK > > masturbate freely and joyously without that *pesky* foreskin getting in  > the  > > way of their enjoyment.  > >  >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Jan 2004 23:02:48 -08002 From: harri.klemetti@fipow.abb.fi (Harri Klemetti)" Subject: DCPS 2.3 on OpenVMS 7.3-2= Message-ID: <472dc69e.0401252302.11636f62@posting.google.com>    Hi,   A I have a problem with DCPS 2.3 running on a new AS DS15 / OpenVMS  7.3-2.  @ When trying to create execution queues for HP 8000N printers theD queues wont start. They remain stopped. I analyzed further and found> out that trying to issue $ START/QUEUE for these queues always produces an -F-ABORT error.   F The queue definitions in DCPS$STARTUP.COM were initially imported from= an older machine where these same settings worked flawlessly.   
 Any ideas?   -Harri   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:48:19 GMT 2 From: m.grafinger@tuwien.ac.at (Manfred Grafinger)+ Subject: Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ? 1 Message-ID: <4014ee27.12309249@news.tuwien.ac.at>   0 On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:43:13 +0100, "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> wrote:    > B >"Manfred Grafinger" <m.grafinger@tuwien.ac.at> schreef in bericht- >news:4012a43a.446915039@news.tuwien.ac.at...  >> Hello VMS-Gurus.  >>H >> I have changed the VAX-station, where our plotter was connected to anF >> Alpha. Now i cannot identify the devicename of the COM1. On the VaxG >> the plotter was connected at the serial port device tta0: but on the G >> alpha tta0: goes to nirwana, also ttb0: and i have not any other tt*  >> devices in show device. >>F >> Somebody out there knows the device name of the COM1 on Alpha-VMS ? >> >> Much thanks, Manfred  >> > I >It very much depends on what model you're actually using. If SHOW DEVICE H >shows TTA0: and TTB0: then it's one of these. The cable you use betweenK >Alpha and plotter may also be at fault. The DB9 lay-out is not the same as F >on a microVAX II IIRC. A BCC08 cable usually won't work for instance. >   D It is an AlphaServer5000 and i have both tta0: and ttb0:. I tryed toD init the plotter queue on both of them and on both devices the queueF was printig but without any reaction of the plotter. So i thougt aboutA "nirwana". But now when i read your message about the differences C between the PC-COM serial layout and the VAXstation serial layout i  think there is the problem.   B Do you have any specifikations of the different pin layout on bothE connectors (VAX 6-pin RJ and ALPHA 9-pin DB9). Maybe i can change the  wireing in the adapter.    Best regards, Manfred    --  # + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + # ' Dr.-techn.  Manfred  GRAFINGER  ' # ' Technische  Universitaet  Wien  ' # ' Institut fr Maschinenelemente  ' # ' 1060 WIEN, Getreidemarkt 9/306  ' # ' manfred.grafinger@tuwien.ac.at  ' # ' Tel.: + 43 - 1 / 58801 / 30612  ' # + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:14:32 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>+ Subject: Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ? 0 Message-ID: <401504A8.6B51743E@sture.homeip.net>   Bradford J. Hamilton wrote:  > { > In article <4013F339.3CE6EC57@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net> writes:   > !"Bradford J. Hamilton" wrote: > !>X > !> In article <00A2C65E.8A9B3454@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: > !> !snip! . > !> !Thus... <==> 1 is TTB0   <==> 2 is TTA0: > !> ! > !> !How is this the opposite?  > !> ! > !>T > !> Apologies - I read it wrong (I also misunderstood when setting it up originallyR > !> - I *assumed* that a device labeled "1" would have a "lower" designation in a4 > !> system device ordering list.  Live and learn... > ! K > !What I do is hook up a terminal, log in and use SHOW TERMINAL to tell me  > !what port I'm on. > !  > Q > I also realized, (shortly after my original post) that I record the output from N > my "consoles" to a *.TXT file on my PC's - I was able to go back to my AlphaP > console "log", and confirm that I was using TTA0: most of the time, and that IP > had, indeed, looked at my "console" terminal to determine which port I was on. > E > I've been having a bad few weeks; that's my only excuse...      :-)  > Q > Now I'm going to write a small program to periodically upload my "console logs" N > to a webpage, where I can view them while I'm away from home.  Not exactly a@ > "real-time" console monitor, but it will have to do for now... >   A If you are talking about your Hobbyist system, are you aware that ( ConsoleWorks is available for Hobbyists?   http://www.consoleworks.com/   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:41:14 GMT 4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)+ Subject: Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ? . Message-ID: <u17Rb.25604$U%5.175348@attbi_s03>  ] In article <401504A8.6B51743E@sture.homeip.net>, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes:  !snip!  R !> Now I'm going to write a small program to periodically upload my "console logs"O !> to a webpage, where I can view them while I'm away from home.  Not exactly a A !> "real-time" console monitor, but it will have to do for now...  !>   ! B !If you are talking about your Hobbyist system, are you aware that) !ConsoleWorks is available for Hobbyists?  !  !http://www.consoleworks.com/  !    Hi Paul,  M Thanks for the information - I was not aware of this offer.  A quick, cursory M search of the website does not yield the information - I'll have to take some # time to thoroughly search the site.    !--  !Paul Sture   J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" K bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'  0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:20:48 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>+ Subject: Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ? 0 Message-ID: <40152240.636E0FEC@sture.homeip.net>   Bradford J. Hamilton wrote:  > _ > In article <401504A8.6B51743E@sture.homeip.net>, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes:  > !snip!T > !> Now I'm going to write a small program to periodically upload my "console logs"Q > !> to a webpage, where I can view them while I'm away from home.  Not exactly a C > !> "real-time" console monitor, but it will have to do for now...  > !> > ! D > !If you are talking about your Hobbyist system, are you aware that+ > !ConsoleWorks is available for Hobbyists?  > !  > !http://www.consoleworks.com/  > !  > 
 > Hi Paul, > O > Thanks for the information - I was not aware of this offer.  A quick, cursory O > search of the website does not yield the information - I'll have to take some % > time to thoroughly search the site.  >   H Ah, I just gave the link I found on the Montagar site. I made my initial, request direct to a contact I had at TECSys.  4 Try the following address, and tell them I sent you:   Support AT tditx DOT com   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:36:01 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) + Subject: Re: Devicename for COM1 on Alpha ? 3 Message-ID: <RlbRb.13047$942.7089@news.cpqcorp.net>   g In article <4012a43a.446915039@news.tuwien.ac.at>, m.grafinger@tuwien.ac.at (Manfred Grafinger) writes:   F :I have changed the VAX-station, where our plotter was connected to anD :Alpha. Now i cannot identify the devicename of the COM1. On the VaxE :the plotter was connected at the serial port device tta0: but on the E :alpha tta0: goes to nirwana, also ttb0: and i have not any other tt*  :devices in show device. : D :Somebody out there knows the device name of the COM1 on Alpha-VMS ?  D   Please review the discussion of the COM ports and console lines inD   the OpenVMS FAQ -- as well as the section in the FAQ that requestsF   the inclusion of details such as the particular system name and the    OpenVMS version, too.  :-)  E   In this case, the specifics can and do vary by platform and OpenVMS G   version -- the FAQ COM discussion tries to explain the behaviours, as E   well as the serial line pinouts and other related discussions, etc.   D   If someone should encounter a new permutation of the platforms andC   the versions and the serial console settings and the COM ports -- F   and I certainly believe it is easily possible I have not covered allD   permutations of this topic in the FAQ -- please send me some emailG   with details, and I'll add the update to the next edition of the FAQ.   N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:17:42 +0100 - From: "Winfried Bergmann" <dummy@empuron.com> ' Subject: Re: Help with VMS installation 9 Message-ID: <bv2sst$nc5mc$1@ID-170759.news.uni-berlin.de>   < "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag3 news:bv0r6q$mv3gt$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de...  > 6 > "lazzal" <r.lasbury@ntlworld.com> schreef in bericht> > news:R9CQb.28286$OA3.8832361@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net... > > : > > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> wrote in message7 > > news:buul0i$m4n8n$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de...  > > > : > > > "lazzal" <r.lasbury@ntlworld.com> schreef in berichtB > > > news:01AQb.28244$OA3.8696070@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...K > > > > When I try to install OpenVMS 6.2 onto a DEC 3000 the process works  OK > > > until K > > > > it reaches the point where it checks the system disk, it then hangs  > with	 > > > the E > > > > message : %SWAPPER-I-SYSDISK, checking status of system disk.  > > > > G > > > > I have tried 2 different hard disks on both SCSI channels to no  avail. > > I'm J > > > > sure the SCSI controller is OK because the SCSI CD-ROM works fine. > > > >  > > > > Where am I going wrong?  > > > > = > > > > All help, advice and suggestions gratefully received.     G If scsi termination is OK and the problem still apears, try to increase ! scsi_reset to a higher value like  6.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:31:18 +0100 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> ' Subject: Re: Help with VMS installation 9 Message-ID: <bv3j4t$n9oqi$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   : "Winfried Bergmann" <dummy@empuron.com> schreef in bericht3 news:bv2sst$nc5mc$1@ID-170759.news.uni-berlin.de... > > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag5 > news:bv0r6q$mv3gt$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de...  > > 8 > > "lazzal" <r.lasbury@ntlworld.com> schreef in bericht@ > > news:R9CQb.28286$OA3.8832361@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net... > > > < > > > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> wrote in message9 > > > news:buul0i$m4n8n$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de...  > > > > < > > > > "lazzal" <r.lasbury@ntlworld.com> schreef in berichtD > > > > news:01AQb.28244$OA3.8696070@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...G > > > > > When I try to install OpenVMS 6.2 onto a DEC 3000 the process  works  > OK
 > > > > until G > > > > > it reaches the point where it checks the system disk, it then  hangs  > > with > > > > the G > > > > > message : %SWAPPER-I-SYSDISK, checking status of system disk. 	 > > > > > I > > > > > I have tried 2 different hard disks on both SCSI channels to no  > avail.	 > > > I'm L > > > > > sure the SCSI controller is OK because the SCSI CD-ROM works fine.	 > > > > > ! > > > > > Where am I going wrong? 	 > > > > > ? > > > > > All help, advice and suggestions gratefully received.  >  > I > If scsi termination is OK and the problem still apears, try to increase # > scsi_reset to a higher value like  > 6. >  > E 6 is DEC's default value for SCSI controllers, so 7 might be a better < choice. The reasoning behind your suggestion is fine though.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:37:13 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> ( Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!' Message-ID: <4014D1B9.6D31F5B6@aaa.com>   K > Does it say specifically where?  I hate travelling into chi-pit proper...    And what is that ?   > if it can be avoided...     	 Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:21:47 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>( Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!0 Message-ID: <4015065B.290D929F@sture.homeip.net>   Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:  > M > > Does it say specifically where?  I hate travelling into chi-pit proper...  >  > And what is that ?   Chicago-Pittsburgh?       --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:20:05 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> ( Subject: RE: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB2381CE@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----4 > From: Rich Jordan [mailto:duodec@speakeasy.net]=20! > Sent: January 25, 2004 11:04 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com * > Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!! >=20 > David J. Dachtera wrote:@ > > Imagine my glee when I went to the P.O. box yesterday and=20 > found the hp=20 J > > propaganda for hpWorld-2004 indicating it was right here in Chicago=20$ > > this year! 16- thru 20-Aug-2004. > >=20< > Does it say specifically where?  I hate travelling into=20( > chi-pit proper if it can be avoided... >=20 > Rich >=20 >=20   All,  0 More info on the HP World event can be found at:   http://www.hpworld.com  D Note - not sure if the site is down or it is just me, but I had some% problems accessing the site just now.    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:33:31 GMT 2 From: Bob Willard <BobwBSGS@TrashThis.comcast.net>( Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!/ Message-ID: <LG8Rb.121494$sv6.656505@attbi_s52>    Rich Jordan wrote:   > David J. Dachtera wrote: > I >> Imagine my glee when I went to the P.O. box yesterday and found the hp K >> propaganda for hpWorld-2004 indicating it was right here in Chicago this  >> year! 16- thru 20-Aug-2004. >>I > Does it say specifically where?  I hate travelling into chi-pit proper   > if it can be avoided...  >  > Rich >    Only slightly off-topic --  H ISTR a Carl Sandburg quote about Chicago being the armpit of the nation,@ which I extrapolated as UIUC being located at the national anus. --   Cheers, Bob    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:05:16 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG( Subject: RE: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!0 Message-ID: <00A2C77C.5D7BDDB7@SendSpamHere.ORG>  | In article <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB2381CE@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> writes: >> -----Original Message----- 5 >> From: Rich Jordan [mailto:duodec@speakeasy.net]=20 " >> Sent: January 25, 2004 11:04 PM >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ >> Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!  >>=20  >> David J. Dachtera wrote: A >> > Imagine my glee when I went to the P.O. box yesterday and=20  >> found the hp=20K >> > propaganda for hpWorld-2004 indicating it was right here in Chicago=20 % >> > this year! 16- thru 20-Aug-2004.  >> >=20 = >> Does it say specifically where?  I hate travelling into=20 ) >> chi-pit proper if it can be avoided...  >>=20  >> Rich  >>=20  >>=20  >  >All,  > 1 >More info on the HP World event can be found at:  >  >http://www.hpworld.com  > E >Note - not sure if the site is down or it is just me, but I had some & >problems accessing the site just now.  ' Maybe if they ran VMS in this server...    --B http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.  --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:04:44 -0800& From: jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan)( Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!= Message-ID: <cc5619f2.0401260904.11299175@posting.google.com>   b Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> wrote in message news:<4015065B.290D929F@sture.homeip.net>... > Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:  > > O > > > Does it say specifically where?  I hate travelling into chi-pit proper...  > >  > > And what is that ? >  > Chicago-Pittsburgh?   A chicago is a pit.  A nasty place to have to travel to, the trains D smell, the parking is too expensive, the roads to where you can parkD are gridlocked.  I'm hoping that HP is not set on doing things in orF near the downtown area, and are aiming at one of the suburban options.   otoh the food is good...   Rich   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:26:14 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com( Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!Q Message-ID: <OF8D7A1CB4.BC81F993-ON85256E27.005FB06C-85256E27.006019EF@metso.com>   K This appears to be the hp/Interex-sponsored convention, albeit with OpenVMS  content.E What's happening with the hp/Encompass-sponsored technical symposium?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:51:23 -0500 + From: Ken Robinson <kenrbnsn1@patmedia.net> ( Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!A Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040126125101.064e4ec0@mail.patmedia.net>   4 At 12:26 PM 1/26/2004, norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  L >This appears to be the hp/Interex-sponsored convention, albeit with OpenVMS	 >content. F >What's happening with the hp/Encompass-sponsored technical symposium?  N See <http://www.encompassus.org/events/2004conffaq.html> for more information.   Ken    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:55:46 -08007 From: jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net (Daryl Jones) ( Subject: Re: hpWorld-2004 - in Chicago!!= Message-ID: <8a646952.0401260955.73677a89@posting.google.com>   b Rich Jordan <duodec@speakeasy.net> wrote in message news:<QCudnUke9vLVHYndXTWc-g@speakeasy.net>... > David J. Dachtera wrote:J > > Imagine my glee when I went to the P.O. box yesterday and found the hpL > > propaganda for hpWorld-2004 indicating it was right here in Chicago this > > year! 16- thru 20-Aug-2004.  > > I > Does it say specifically where?  I hate travelling into chi-pit proper   > if it can be avoided...  >  > Rich   Dear Rich Jordan:   D The driving distance between Chicago, IL and Pittsburgh, Pa is aboutB 460 miles (~760 Km) driven and go through two states, Indiana, and& Ohio. I can understand your avoidance.   Regards, Daryl Jones    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:31:03 GMT 0 From: edt@rygar.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Eric Taylor)3 Subject: Re: Kay resigns: no WMDs since early 1990s 5 Message-ID: <Hw9Rb.1222$Nz2.26406@news.itd.umich.edu>   B In article <GFsQb.22115$q4.9352@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,- C. Pangus <craigpangus@sprintmail.com> wrote: M >    Just how far Bush & Co will go in faking it is a recurring thought.  The K >entire war was based on falsifications of WMD's.  What else has, and will, C >they fake or plant?  I mean, the number of dead from 9/11 pales in   . in restrospect it's easy to see what happened.  ( since 1992 the neocons have wanted iraq.  @ Now clinton was sure that saddam had WMD's.  Bush after him also thought it.   D The reason why both presidents were so sure is also now clear.  EvenE though saddam hussein destroyed all of his WMD's you have to remember F he's a petty tyrant.  And as such the only way he knows how to rule isB through fear and intimidation.  He thought if he fooled the UnitedF States into thinking he still had the weapons by deliberately deludingF the inspectors in various ways the United States would be intimidated.F Too late he found like every other bully you can't intimidate everyoneD and like every other bully he was a coward who refused to allow freeG inspections that could have saved his regime.  Bush was fooled, just as  Clinton was fooled.   F There wasn't any hard evidenc though.  Not enough for a war certainly.E But here is where the real problem lies.  Bush's administration is an D administration of secrecy and hidden agendas.  Instead of telling usE that they got fooled, Bush pretends that he never said he was looking A for WMD's in the first place, and all he wanted to begin with was  regime change.  D As to why Bush thinks that secrecy and hidden agendas in a democracyE are the way to go, how stupid does he think we are?  Who knows, maybe 5 we are that stupid, he might get reelected this fall.    --- edt    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:53:53 GMT ) From: "Rick Barry" <richard.barry@hp.com> " Subject: Re: Kerberos login on VMS3 Message-ID: <BCbRb.13055$X72.8796@news.cpqcorp.net>   + <david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk> wrote in message # news:burmh3$feh$1@news.mdx.ac.uk... B > In article <H_bQb.12903$G86.3793@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Rick Barry" <richard.barry@hp.com> writes:J > >If you're talking about the external authentication feature provided byB > >PATHWORKS for logging into the system, that's still using NTLM. > >  >  > OK.  > K > So it looks like we currently have no secure single password systems from  HPJ > working with VMS and other OSs. Even Microsoft advise against using NTLM unless% > you are forced to by older systems.  > I > The LDAP authentication, which will work with other VMS systems but not  with? > other OSs due to the password field chosen, is it encrypted ?  > ie is it using >  LDAP with TLS/SSL > I > either connecting to the standard LDAP 389 port and using the START TLS 	 > command  > , > or using the alternative LDAP SSL 636 port >   E Yes, it uses SSL to encrypt the password in transit. Either method is 
 supported.   >  > David Webb > VMS and Unix team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University >   
 Rick Barry OpenVMS System Software Group  Hewlett-Packard Company 
 Nashua, NH   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:56:50 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) 3 Subject: Re: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP? 4 Message-ID: <C09Rb.13010$IS1.12686@news.cpqcorp.net>  1 In article <401284F8.57E8194D@sture.homeip.net>,  , Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes:   .. > C >I encountered a similar problem when applying VMS731_PCSI V1.0 and C >VMS731_UPDATE V1.0 in a single session; the second PRODUCT INSTALL E >failed, so I rebooted and then it worked. I realised too late that I G >might have simply been able to get away with logging in again, but did ! >kick myself that I hadn't tried.  ..  H I have sent a suggestion to the POLYCENTER Software Installation (PCSI) C utility engineering team that they emphasise this in future patches  to the PCSI utility.  F Now this is NOT a shot at anyone, but this can only work IF installersC actually read and follow instructions that come with the patch kit, C and also pay attention to messages that PRODUCT INSTALL <patch-kit> C displays.  While there is NO REASON to find fault along these lines B in the situatin currently under discussion, a surprising number of= problems arise from NOT reading and following instructions.   B O.K., maybe it is not surprising -- human nature and all that...  F In any case, this is another reminder that the instructions are there 
 for a reason.    --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:35:58 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com3 Subject: Re: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP? Q Message-ID: <OF1BCDDEAC.B8CBBC3C-ON85256E27.004FBE51-85256E27.00508374@metso.com>   J hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) wrote on 01/26/2004 08:56:50 AM:   2 > In article <401284F8.57E8194D@sture.homeip.net>,. > Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes: >  > .. > > E > >I encountered a similar problem when applying VMS731_PCSI V1.0 and E > >VMS731_UPDATE V1.0 in a single session; the second PRODUCT INSTALL G > >failed, so I rebooted and then it worked. I realised too late that I I > >might have simply been able to get away with logging in again, but did # > >kick myself that I hadn't tried.  > .. > I > I have sent a suggestion to the POLYCENTER Software Installation (PCSI) E > utility engineering team that they emphasise this in future patches  > to the PCSI utility. > H > Now this is NOT a shot at anyone, but this can only work IF installersE > actually read and follow instructions that come with the patch kit, E > and also pay attention to messages that PRODUCT INSTALL <patch-kit> E > displays.  While there is NO REASON to find fault along these lines D > in the situatin currently under discussion, a surprising number of= > problems arise from NOT reading and following instructions. B > O.K., maybe it is not surprising -- human nature and all that...G > In any case, this is another reminder that the instructions are there  > for a reason.   H Yes...and then again....  It is often the case, and I absolutely do readH the instructions, that the "supported" method is the most simplified and@ most time-consuming, albeit the "safest" method, but that for anF experienced system manager there are more direct ways to proceed or toD recover (other than returning to the last known good full backup andF starting over).  Of course, this path is fraught with possiblities and? no experienced system manager would recommend it to anyone less  experienced....    >  > --G >       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USA H >           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)@ >       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:43:15 -0500 $ From: Mike Duffy <Duffy@process.com>3 Subject: RE: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP? J Message-ID: <63D30D6E10CFD11190A90000F805FE860492B447@lespaul.process.com>   > -----Original Message-----H > From: hammond%not@peek.ssr.hp.com [mailto:hammond%not@peek.ssr.hp.com]( > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:57 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 5 > Subject: Re: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP?  > 4   [Discussion about failing to log out before using](   [PSCI images replaced by a patch kit.] > 6 > I have sent a suggestion to the POLYCENTER Software  > Installation (PCSI) E > utility engineering team that they emphasise this in future patches  > to the PCSI utility. >   * Thanks, but it was clearly my own mistake.  H > Now this is NOT a shot at anyone, but this can only work IF installersE > actually read and follow instructions that come with the patch kit, E > and also pay attention to messages that PRODUCT INSTALL <patch-kit> E > displays.  While there is NO REASON to find fault along these lines.3 > in the situatin currently under discussion, [...]3  % Sure there is, and it belongs wih me:   E      No reboot is necessary after successful installation of the kit.AH      However, users will need to log out and log back in in order to use      the new PCSI features.a  C That's pretty clear.  I simply blew it.  I was thinking in terms ofh? "reboot/no reboot" and either didn't notice or forgot about the  above.   -Mike Duffy    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:00:45 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond)k3 Subject: Re: Known problems with V7.3 security MUP? 3 Message-ID: <hBcRb.13064$0d2.5863@news.cpqcorp.net>S  E In article <OF1BCDDEAC.B8CBBC3C-ON85256E27.004FBE51-85256E27.00508374 + @metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes:e   ..I >Yes...and then again....  It is often the case, and I absolutely do read I >the instructions, that the "supported" method is the most simplified and A >most time-consuming, albeit the "safest" method, but that for aneG >experienced system manager there are more direct ways to proceed or to E >recover (other than returning to the last known good full backup and0G >starting over).  Of course, this path is fraught with possiblities andR@ >no experienced system manager would recommend it to anyone less >experienced....  E Norm, you write most elegantly.  I agree, but also point out that thenG decision to use a "more direct" way to proceed should take into account-H the time that will be lost -- usually in excess of that saved -- perhapsF several times in excess -- when the possibilities with which the more ) direct way is fraught express themselves.h  E In other words, whatever time you save using a shortcut will quickly y- be lost, many times over, when it goes wrong..  I BTW, this also applies to cleaning a fish tank, repairing chipped veneer,  and to many other things.-   --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:01:56 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)o& Subject: Re: Mozilla on Alpha question3 Message-ID: <DoljJgnQYB1z@eisner.encompasserve.org>   J In article <87eQb.106525$sv6.511405@attbi_s52>, <russ@dittmer.com> writes: > F > How do I verify that the local files are in Stream_LF record format?  C    If they are stream-lf, then diectory/full will include the line:e+       	 Record format:      Stream_LF,  ...p  G > Also, Do I have to use Java via SDK, or is this a requirement at all?nN > "Important: If you are using Java via the Software Development Kit (SDK) forG > the OpenVMS Operating System, for the JavaT Platform with Mozilla forg
 > OpenVMS"  C    IIRC mozilla will run and handle Java without the SDK installed.aA    This is just a note on what to d if you are using the SDK withh    mozilla.m   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:58:14 +0000-0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>@ Subject: Re: Object available. No source. Vax to Alpha Migration4 Message-ID: <bv2ham$5f0$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>   Colin Butcher wrote:K > Absolutely. However, I suggest that you use the disassembled code to helptN > you do the reverse-engineering and figure out what it currently does and howL > it does  it. Remember - they may not actually know what the called routineN > really does, or what it is supposed to be doing. It could all easily be lostM > in the mists of time and some poor person has got to figure it all out froma
 > scratch.  C Don't see much return in doing more than cleaning up the generated lI Macro32 code to compile. The code presumably hasn't been needed for some -I years, so the rewrite may as well be deferred, unless and until strictly  
 necessary.   Chrise   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:49:29 +0000D* From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]>@ Subject: Re: Object available. No source. Vax to Alpha Migration' Message-ID: <bv32da$s06$1@lore.csc.com>>   Chris Sharman wrote: >  > Colin Butcher wrote:M > > Absolutely. However, I suggest that you use the disassembled code to helpfP > > you do the reverse-engineering and figure out what it currently does and howN > > it does  it. Remember - they may not actually know what the called routineP > > really does, or what it is supposed to be doing. It could all easily be lostO > > in the mists of time and some poor person has got to figure it all out frome > > scratch. > D > Don't see much return in doing more than cleaning up the generatedJ > Macro32 code to compile. The code presumably hasn't been needed for someJ > years, so the rewrite may as well be deferred, unless and until strictly > necessary.  A "Entertaining" is one word you could use to describe the observedeD effects of hitherto latent timing bugs in code being 'brought to the	 surface'./   "Disastrous" is another.  ! And this is WITH the source code!   G These days, college courses and structured object programming theories,mA don't really mix with the memory tight and cycle sensitive coding)C practices of those who, made it up as they went along. As a rule oftB thumb, the further back in time this coding was done (and the moreF likely the source code has been lost), the more "ingenious" techniques2 were used to compensate for hardware deficiencies.   So, do you half do a job     -- S? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences0 nclews at csc dot com.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:25:12 -0500e' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>.! Subject: RE: OpenVMS and Railways R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB2381CF@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message------ > From: John Smith [mailto:a@nonymous.com]=20k  > Sent: January 25, 2004 1:14 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coms# > Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Railwaysr >=20 > Main, Kerry wrote: > >> -----Original Message-----g: > >> From: Fabio Cardoso [mailto:fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br]# > >> Sent: January 24, 2004 5:19 PM  > >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com& > >> Subject: OT: OpenVMS and Railways > >>H > >> Is there any Railway in the US using OpenVMS as control software  ? > >> > >> Like Amtrak etc ? > >>G > >> I am asking because the my Country will make new investments in=20 A > >> Railways calculated about US$ 2 billion dolars ! May be I=20- > can work in=20 > >> any project here !: > >> > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> FCn > >m
 > > Fabio, > >c@ > > Not in the US, but OpenVMS has very mission critical role=20 > With India=20m	 > > Rail.a > >  > > Reference:C > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/indiarr/indiarr.pdfp8 > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/indiarr/? > > "Consider the scope of the operation. Indian Railways is=20  > the world's=20H > > second-largest railway, with 6,853 stations, 63,028 kilometers of=20@ > > track, 37,840 passenger coaches and 222,147 freight cars.=20 > Annually it=20@ > > carries some 4.83 billion passengers and 492 million tons=20
 > of freight"  >=20 >=20= > Is that information (ie. VMS still running the railroad)=20 ? > current?  That story has been kicking around for a loooong=20d? > time, and things do happen over time.....(from millions of=20 / > VMS licenses to 411,000 to 400,000 to ......)e >=20A > So maybe India Rail wants to license their software to Brazil ?a >=20 >=20  B Yep, as the testimonial indicates (its an update from the previousE testimonial) OpenVMS and RTR (bundled with OpenVMS now btw) is at the + heart of this mission critical application.o   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultanto HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660e Fax: 613-591-4477a Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcomn. (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:59:30 -0800+ From: shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa).! Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Railwaysu< Message-ID: <bec993c8.0401260959.e2c97ea@posting.google.com>  ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in messageQ7 news:f30679fb.0401241419.187e99d9@posting.google.com...nE > Is there any Railway in the US using OpenVMS as control software  ?i >g > Like Amtrak etc ?e  D The second-largest US subway system uses VMS for supervisory control and energy management SCADA.  % 184 Million customer trips last year.o   Tim.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 05:40:06 -0800' From: simon.adaway@ukaea.org.uk (Simon).+ Subject: Parity Error on Removable MO diskss= Message-ID: <b2d9b89e.0401260540.78b39f09@posting.google.com>s   Hi,w  F We have data on some Magneto Opticals (MO's) that goes back some time.F There are no longer drives that will write to the format ~300MByte perC side @512bytes/sector. This would not be a problem since the new HPeF drives, can read but not write that format - and read is what we need.  C This would be OK. When I mount the disk, the system (Open VMS V7.3)i@ will report 'volume is write-locked' ...but the data is there soF that's great - this figures. But some disks report 'parity error' whenE I try and mount ,and then gives up. Now we can't do fixes to the disk F since we can't mount it - and even if we could, we are write-locked by  the old format? So are we stuck?   Right?   Simone   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:32:25 +0800s, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>/ Subject: Re: Parity Error on Removable MO disksd- Message-ID: <87smi220ae.fsf@prep.synonet.com>n  ) simon.adaway@ukaea.org.uk (Simon) writes:w  E > This would be OK. When I mount the disk, the system (Open VMS V7.3)cB > will report 'volume is write-locked' ...but the data is there soC > that's great - this figures. But some disks report 'parity error'gC > when I try and mount ,and then gives up. Now we can't do fixes to-A > the disk since we can't mount it - and even if we could, we arei2 > write-locked by the old format? So are we stuck?  F Maybe. If you can do a physical image copy onto a LD logical disk thenC use a copy of that to play with and perhaps recover the munted home  blocks/indexf.sys/what ever.  F Copying ALL of them before they also fail would seem to be a good idea also.'   -- i< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.N@                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:27:18 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)s/ Subject: Re: Parity Error on Removable MO disks 3 Message-ID: <AeL$k0snzjaC@eisner.encompasserve.org>   g In article <b2d9b89e.0401260540.78b39f09@posting.google.com>, simon.adaway@ukaea.org.uk (Simon) writes:  >  > Right? >  > Simon   G    How old are those disks?  Some of our people found that like 9-track @    tapes they have a 12 to 15 year shelf life (but don't require?    refrigeration and special handling).  Many of the disks werenF    susceptable to problems if the data pattern happened to result in aF    high density of burn spots, this reduces longevity due to substrate    separation.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:01:56 +0000w* From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]>/ Subject: Re: Parity Error on Removable MO diskse' Message-ID: <bv3dm3$2nu$1@lore.csc.com>t   Simon wrote:  H > We have data on some Magneto Opticals (MO's) that goes back some time. ...oH > that's great - this figures. But some disks report 'parity error' whenG > I try and mount ,and then gives up. Now we can't do fixes to the disktH > since we can't mount it - and even if we could, we are write-locked by" > the old format? So are we stuck?  E There are a few data recovery services in the UK, Vogon being one offpG the top of my head, there may well be more (but I know Vogon deals with  VMS format media).  G Long term archival of data is an interesting subject, I think I'll postt a topic for discussion.    -- l? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciencesi nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:54:58 -0500 . From: Glenn Everhart <Everhart-nospam@gce.com>/ Subject: Re: Parity Error on Removable MO disks 3 Message-ID: <40155525$0$7342$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>d  = Write a little utility if you can't find one that just does as; block at a time $qio from the MO disk (mount it /foreign ora= enable log_io or phy_io priv (forget which) to let you access ; it unmounted; think it is log_io) and writes the block to ay> file one block at a time with writevirtual. Alternatively make> a contig file the size of the MO and point a VD unit at it and! use write logical to the VD unit.   = When done make the file contiguous, point vddriver at it withuD asnvd/assign, and mount the VD unit. That will be r/w and presumably@ have working underlying storage so it can probably be recovered.  E If you still can't read the copy (which should try to accept whatever1A it gets from the block-at-a-time $qio and copy to output!) you'lleA have to use other tools (hex editors maybe) to muck around on theg> copy to fix whatever is wrong. I would suggest also looking atD something like ods-2-reader.c which might be able to pull enough offG a drive to get what you need even with it unmounted or mounted /foreign = since that utility won't check as many checksums and so on asn? mount and thus may forgive some of the bit rot you probably areR seeing.   @ If you want, it will probably help to try several retries of badD read $qio calls. Sometimes an optical will succeed a second or thirdA try when first one fails. Archive the copy once made to somethingy you can trust!   Glenn Everhart  : (n.b. - there are a couple ods-2 readers for windows too.)   Simon wrote: > Hi,  > H > We have data on some Magneto Opticals (MO's) that goes back some time.H > There are no longer drives that will write to the format ~300MByte perE > side @512bytes/sector. This would not be a problem since the new HP.H > drives, can read but not write that format - and read is what we need. > E > This would be OK. When I mount the disk, the system (Open VMS V7.3)sB > will report 'volume is write-locked' ...but the data is there soH > that's great - this figures. But some disks report 'parity error' whenG > I try and mount ,and then gives up. Now we can't do fixes to the diskoH > since we can't mount it - and even if we could, we are write-locked by" > the old format? So are we stuck? >  > Right? >  > Simona   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:38:34 +0100' From: huber@mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)  Subject: Re: Rdesktop on VMS+ Message-ID: <E3suqp03egNr@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>h  { In article <NyTQb.28841$OA3.9245532@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net>, "Roger Haxby" <roger.haxxxby_rem2x@ntlworld.com> writes: L > Rdesktop is a open source project that allows Windows Terminal Services to" > be displayed on an X-Server box.H > The rdesktop project is written in c and can be found on Sourceforge.IK > A port of rdesktop 1.2.0 to VAX/VMS exists, and I can post details of the * > changes needed if people are interested.L > (I have posted them on the rdesktop-devel mailing list, but I thought that, > people on this group might be interested.) > H > It has been tested on VMS 6.1SE, against Windows 2000 Server, with SP4
 > applied.J > Also works against NT4 Terminal Server edition.  Its now considered goodG > enough for production work; the main problem is that VAX workstationst$ > are very slow by todays standards.? > Its not been tried on Alphas, since we are not an Alpha shop.e  < I just made rdesktop 1.3 working on VMS 7.3 , Compaq C V6.5,H see http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/~huber/pds/stuff/rdesktop/rdesktop.html .  ? The changes are minimal, but I have not much resources to test. = Maybe You are interested to merge these changes with Your Vaxh	 version ?n  l -- y>    Joseph "Sepp" Huber, Muenchen   http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:22:40 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)s Subject: Re: Rdesktop on VMS3 Message-ID: <CcFTRImur3kn@eisner.encompasserve.org>   { In article <NyTQb.28841$OA3.9245532@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net>, "Roger Haxby" <roger.haxxxby_rem2x@ntlworld.com> writes: L > Rdesktop is a open source project that allows Windows Terminal Services to" > be displayed on an X-Server box.H > The rdesktop project is written in c and can be found on Sourceforge.I  D    How does it differe from VNC?  I've got VNC clients on everything,    here, and VNC servers all over the place.  ,    IIRC there's still no VNC server for VMS.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:39:07 GMTh# From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)n Subject: Re: Rdesktop on VMS3 Message-ID: <LobRb.13052$942.4407@news.cpqcorp.net>U  { In article <NyTQb.28841$OA3.9245532@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net>, "Roger Haxby" <roger.haxxxby_rem2x@ntlworld.com> writes:tK :Rdesktop is a open source project that allows Windows Terminal Services tot! :be displayed on an X-Server box.l ..F :The rdesktop project is written in c and can be found on Sourceforge. ..J :A port of rdesktop 1.2.0 to VAX/VMS exists, and I can post details of the) :changes needed if people are interested.  ..  J   You could consider a submission of this for the next OpenVMS Freeware...  G   www.hp.com/go/openvms/freeware/ has the project submission details...e  E   If the kit is being updated regularly, I can queue a submission forlH   investigation as the Freeware is being updated or I can queue a static   kit submission...6  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com,   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 08:51:56 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)nI Subject: Re: The Register: OpenVMS among most-secure of operating systems 3 Message-ID: <H96RgMlhZ+XX@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <erd210pggj66tjjn5navnfp4ei2arg0l13@4ax.com>, jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net> writes:eG > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:07:04 +0000, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancym0 > <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote:   >>9 >>Ironically OpenVMS has no EAL certification of any kindh: >>Solaris, AIX, HP-UX do. Perhaps instead of claiming that8 >>OpenVMS is secure you should cough up the cash and get >>it evaluated.  > E > EAL: is a new one to me.  I do know that specific configurations of K > OpenVMS, layered products, and hardware have acheived very high goverment2L > security ratings (U.S. Fed).  It has been, and is still even, used in some$ > exceptionally high-security areas. >       EAL is a joke.r  F    Since Solaris and W2K have EAL certifications I thought it must be C    pretty meaningless.  I tracked down some definitions and finallyo;    found a web site (nist.gov) which explained some things.e  B    EAL certification is part of a pretty high level international I    aggreement on computer security issues.  To be EAL certified you have mI    to meet some ISO-9000 like requirements, including things like having  K    an org chart.  I looked for more meaningfull security requirements, but e4    if there are any they must be pretty well hidden.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:27:43 -0500t; From: "Island Computers USA" <dbturner@islandco.com.nospam>w? Subject: Re: Trouble installing VMS AXP Hobbyist on a PWS 600au 0 Message-ID: <101ac8o7a7drj43@news.supernews.com>   Cards that work with VMS on PWS   & Powerstorm 3D30, 4D20  (PBXGB-AA, -CA)K Any Permedia 2 8MB SGRAM Card (PCI) (Includes Diamond FireGL Pro 1000, Elsa.) GLoria Synergy, Io Magic etc Compaq 4D10)u S3Trio64 or 64Vr  K The Oxygen will not work nor the Radeon 7500 PCI Card - Pwerstorm 300/350 I0 think may work in VGA mode onlyt   DT      5 "Rich Jordan" <duodec@speakeasy.net> wrote in messageb, news:QCudnU4e9vJq4ondXTWc-g@speakeasy.net... > Tom Crabtree wrote:- > >>, > >>>      Bus 00  Slot 11: Matrox Millenium > >> > >>K > >> There is no VMS driver for this.  You will need to acquire a supportede: > >> graphics controller.  The supported options are here: > >a
 > > Brian: > > ; > > Good catch.  Didn't see that on the first pass through. F > > Yes, you will need an OpenVMS compatible graphics card, which is a > > _very_ short list: > > Powerstorm 3D30l > > Powerstorm 4D20o2 > > Powerstorm 4D10T (Elsa Gloria Synergy 8mb PCI) > > Powerstorm 300 > > Powerstorm 350 > > S3 Trio64V > > Permedia 2- > > 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 (OpenVms 7.3 or higher)e > >g< > > Check eBay, saw a 3D30 the other day that went for ~$50. > >a > > TomC > >sH > Unless something has changed recently, the Powerstorm 300 and 350 willH > not work on a PWS system; I think the Oxygen VX1 is also not supported& > (that one is EV6 only last I heard). >e > Rich >r   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:55:38 GMT.# From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)n? Subject: Re: Trouble installing VMS AXP Hobbyist on a PWS 600aua3 Message-ID: <eEbRb.13056$942.3644@news.cpqcorp.net>l   In article <craigberry-C78234.13381925012004@dsl081-159-101.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net>, "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> writes:eC :In article <gDSQb.24210$i4.2113@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,23 : Wesley Dunnahoo <wdunnahoo@mindspring.com> wrote:  :rI :> I've spent the past several weeks trying to install VMS on an old PWS 1- :> 600au that used to contain Debian Linux.    :a
 :VMS version?t  F   I would not install any release older than V7.1-2 on this box, and I=   would strongly recommend use of V7.2-2, or V7.3-1 or later.t  A   Also check that the console OS_TYPE variable is set to OpenVMS.n    ) :>       Bus 00  Slot 07: Intel SIO 82378s :rI :This means you can't boot from an IDE device, so you are correct to try eH :using dka400 (see section 14.4.4.2 of the FAQ).  However, I don't know I :whether your Pioneer DVD-ROM will work.  Does it support 512-byte block  A :transfers or have a switch, jumper, etc., that will enable such?t  A   The 512-byte sector requirements is applicable to SCSI devices.eA   Recent versions of DQDRIVER can de-block 2048 byte ATA or ATAPI2C   disk sectors just fine -- DQDRIVER reads the sector(s) underlying :   the block reference, and returns the requested block(s).  A   The OpenVMS FAQ section "CD-R and DVD device requirements?" hasVC   some related details.  (I do see I missed an incomplete referencewD   to 512-byte disk block requirements over in another section of the<   FAQ.  Grumble.  I've queued the fix for the next edition.)  p :Be sure to read the FAQ:  :>2 :http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html  D   FWIW, the h%%%%.www%.hp.com URLs are potentially transient and areF   considered website-internal URL cross-links.  Such internal URLs can)   potentially be moved or can be changed.w  3   The official external URL for the OpenVMS FAQ is:s       www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq/  D   And yes, the biggest problem here will be the graphics controller.C   The Matrox is not supported by OpenVMS, you'll need to find a PCI0E   graphics controller that will work in the box and that has OpenVMS 0E   support -- and I don't know that the Radeon 7500 PCI nor Oxygen VX1 G   device driver support extends as far back as the Personal Workstatione   600au series platform.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faqhN  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.comc   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:13:56 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond)f$ Subject: Re: walking into a war zone3 Message-ID: <Eg9Rb.13016$IS1.1044@news.cpqcorp.net>   = In article <e6c6a64b.0401231240.7ebaf9a@posting.google.com>, i  / emailforwes@earthlink.net (Wes Emerson) writes: G >Okay, let me paint the picture for you, I am a seasoned Solaris, Linux > >and BSD admin with a few years and emergencies under my belt. >uC >Now some far flung part of the company wants me to troubleshoot an-+ >unknown Dec Vax box somewhere up the road.r ..' >Any help would be greatly appreciated.<  J The word "troubleshoot" suggest something is wrong, but without additionalI information there is little help we can give.  Is the machine plugged in? = Does it [appear to] power up?  Does it boot?  Can you log in?e  
 Get the idea?i  H If you can describe the reason that you are being asked to troubleshoot,K it is at least possible that you will get much better help from this group.o  D In particular, if you can boot and log in, output from the following  commands would likely be useful:  *     $ write sys$output f$getsyi("VERSION")*     $ write sys$output f$getsyi("HW_NAME")  C (The first will identify the version of OpenVMS VAX that is in use. 2 (The second will idetify the particular hardware.)   -- ,J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:08:12 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)s$ Subject: Re: walking into a war zone3 Message-ID: <9ry8GSJwCpqO@eisner.encompasserve.org>u  l In article <e6c6a64b.0401231240.7ebaf9a@posting.google.com>, emailforwes@earthlink.net (Wes Emerson) writes:H > Okay, let me paint the picture for you, I am a seasoned Solaris, Linux? > and BSD admin with a few years and emergencies under my belt.l > D > Now some far flung part of the company wants me to troubleshoot an, > unknown Dec Vax box somewhere up the road.  E    OK, since you're asking here we'll assume that VAX is running VMS.BH    It could be running VAXEln, netBSD, FreeBSD, ULTRIX (a BSD UNIX), ...  G > Now my question to the multitudes, are there any commands that can betE > used to check hardware such as cpu's, memory, and discs to look for  > hardware failures.  H    The following is somewhat version dependent, let us know what version    of VMS you're running:w         show error"       show device <whichever>/full2       (use "show device" to get a list of devices)  !    To read details on any errors:        set default sys$errorlog       analyze/errork      If you get the message:F       %ERF-F-CEHFND, New header format found. Install DECevent and run       conversion utilityM    then you'll have to do as it says, the error log reading part of DECevent i    is licensed with VMS.  D    And if you need help on details of any of the above commands, the$    HELP command is your best friend.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.051 ************************