1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 08 Jul 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 374       Contents: Re: A lint Utility for OpenVMS+ Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!) + Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)   AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot$ Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot$ Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot& Alphastation 255 with "KEYBOARD ERROR"  Re: Conversion from RT-11 to VMS$ Re: Datatrieve Help Creating Domains$ Re: Datatrieve Help Creating Domains$ Re: diff between a process and batch$ Re: diff between a process and batch, Re: DSPP (EMEA) newsletter too big & in HTML& Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege?& Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege?& Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege?& Re: Getting the RFA of Record in COBOL( How does VMS decide what to call a disk?, Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?, Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?G Re: HP beats IBM in new cluster Total Cost of Ownership comparisonstudy = Re: Intel Itanium's very survival in doubt - inquirer article 3 Re: interfacing dec basic to web based applications  Re: Itanium Porting Class  Re: Itanium Porting Class  Java page is DOA+ Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au + Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au + Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au 2 OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ????6 Re: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ????6 RE: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ????4 OpenVMS ssh login problem with pre-expired passwords0 Re: Question about AS 800 and display resolution/ Re: question on terminal settings for an AS1200 $ Re: Split I/Os to contiguous file???  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 01:07:01 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>' Subject: Re: A lint Utility for OpenVMS 0 Message-ID: <874qojoife.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  / soccer13player@yahoo.com (Nom de Plume) writes:   - > application.  The joys of searches for 'A'.   2 That's what compiler cross-ref  listing are for...   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jul 2004 10:54:56 -0700 . From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)4 Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0407070954.391122a5@posting.google.com>   m Charles Shannon Hendrix <shannon@news.widomaker.com> wrote in message news:<bi5fcc.lt2.ln@escape.goid.lan>... @ > On 2004-07-06, Alan E. Feldman <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > J > > I've viewed so few videos from the Net that this has never happened toI > > me. I've had problems viewing videos, yes. But still this is great to H > > see HP promoting VMS, even if it's not the best possible effort. WhyH > > don't you ask them to remove the video and destroy it? Would that be > > better?  > > C > > I'm not going to let the nitpickers ruin this for me. I enjoyed  > > watching it a lot. > F > If they aren't providing it in a standard format, just how seriously' > can you take this "promotion" of VMS?     C You would prefer a promotion of something else on a VMS-friendly or  otherwise "standard" format?  / Come on. Any VMS promotion is better than none.   &                              >---o---<  ? Which would get a more positive response from hp in the future? A Thanking hp for this promotion and asking them to use a "standard C format" in the future or just harping on them without the slightest / recognition of them having done something good?   C If you did something you thought was good and people just yelled at E you for not doing it quite right, would that encourage you to do more D and try to correct what you did wrong? If Guy Peleg implemented someF cool new DCL function but did something slightly wrong, would you yellE at him for it instead of thanking him and then expect him to continue B to be enthusiastic about adding functionality to DCL? I think not!   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:02:14 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>4 Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)+ Message-ID: <40EC9D16.6F16C23E@comcast.net>    "Alan E. Feldman" wrote: > o > Charles Shannon Hendrix <shannon@news.widomaker.com> wrote in message news:<bi5fcc.lt2.ln@escape.goid.lan>... B > > On 2004-07-06, Alan E. Feldman <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > > L > > > I've viewed so few videos from the Net that this has never happened toK > > > me. I've had problems viewing videos, yes. But still this is great to J > > > see HP promoting VMS, even if it's not the best possible effort. WhyJ > > > don't you ask them to remove the video and destroy it? Would that be
 > > > better?  > > > E > > > I'm not going to let the nitpickers ruin this for me. I enjoyed  > > > watching it a lot. > > H > > If they aren't providing it in a standard format, just how seriously) > > can you take this "promotion" of VMS?  > E > You would prefer a promotion of something else on a VMS-friendly or  > otherwise "standard" format?  
 Non-sequitur.   1 > Come on. Any VMS promotion is better than none.   G Well, yes and no. A promo. targetted to Windows users only seems like a G half-effort, worthy of recognition, but leaves the audience wanting (as F evidenced by this thread). A promo. that is agnostic of platform seems# to make a stronger statement, IMHO.   A > Which would get a more positive response from hp in the future? C > Thanking hp for this promotion and asking them to use a "standard E > format" in the future or just harping on them without the slightest 1 > recognition of them having done something good?   @ Depends. Were they not so consistent in ignoring the non-WindowsG population, one might be more inclined to overlook the short-fall. When E their every move re-validates the "Windows is the world, the world is > Windows" mantra, ... fill in your own ending to that sentence.  E > If you did something you thought was good and people just yelled at G > you for not doing it quite right, would that encourage you to do more ( > and try to correct what you did wrong?  A Ask that question of a child development expert. The answer might 
 surprise you.    > If Guy Peleg implemented some H > cool new DCL function but did something slightly wrong, would you yellG > at him for it instead of thanking him and then expect him to continue D > to be enthusiastic about adding functionality to DCL? I think not!  H Well, typically this group will be among the first to find/point out theG faults. I like to think that the likes of Guy, Fred, etc. would exploit H that to their best advantage (a ready group of beta-testers, if somewhat sharp-toothed).    Just MHO - YMMV...   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:20:44 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> ) Subject: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot 0 Message-ID: <10eoj77pj097ca9@corp.supernews.com>  < I'm trying to boot an older Alpha Server, a Model 400 4/233.  ? The console comes up, but  >>> boot  hangs right after "jumping  to bootstrap code."   3 Ok, I thought, maybe the boot device (DKA0) is bad.   ?  >>> boot dka500   (the CDROM) with the OpenVMS 7.1-2 CD in the > tray also hangs right after "jumping to bootstrap code."  I do? see the CD light come on, so it _looks_ like it's accessing the  drive.   But it just won't boot.         >>> show config  tells me:    SRM Cnsole  : V7.0-9 ARC Console : 4.58* PALcode     : VMS PALcode V5.56-2  X1.46-2 Serial ROM  : V4.6 Diag ROM    : V1.7      How can I diagnose this problem?   HELP!    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 00:32:18 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) - Subject: Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0707042037520001@user-105n8oh.dialup.mindspring.com>  A In article <10eoj77pj097ca9@corp.supernews.com>, z@no.spam wrote:   = >I'm trying to boot an older Alpha Server, a Model 400 4/233.  > @ >The console comes up, but  >>> boot  hangs right after "jumping >to bootstrap code." > 4 >Ok, I thought, maybe the boot device (DKA0) is bad. > @ > >>> boot dka500   (the CDROM) with the OpenVMS 7.1-2 CD in the? >tray also hangs right after "jumping to bootstrap code."  I do @ >see the CD light come on, so it _looks_ like it's accessing the >drive.  >  >But it just won't boot. >  >  >  > >>> show config  tells me: >  >SRM Cnsole  : V7.0-9  >ARC Console : 4.58 + >PALcode     : VMS PALcode V5.56-2  X1.46-2  >Serial ROM  : V4.6  >Diag ROM    : V1.7  >  > ! >How can I diagnose this problem?   7 Is there a CONSOLE environment variable on this system?   I What is it's value?  Does the value match the console you have connected?   E Many alphas (I don't know if this is one of them) will respond on any J console port when you type there, regardless of the setting of the CONSOLEJ E.V.  For example, if you set CONSOLE to graphics, and start typing on the% serial port, the system will respond.   D But when you boot VMS, all console (OPA0:) output goes whereever theH CONSOLE variable directs it.  So if your E.V. doesn't match the hardwareI configuration, it appears that there is no console output once VMS starts  to boot.     Another thing to try:   > If your system root is [SYS0.] (the default), try booting with >>> b -fl 0,20000   A (for roots other than [SYS0.], adjust the number before the comma  appropriately.)   G This enables some debugging output, which can help diagnose how far VMS  gets before it hangs.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:36:43 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> - Subject: Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot 0 Message-ID: <10epg93fbbglp89@corp.supernews.com>   Robert Deininger wrote: 9 > Is there a CONSOLE environment variable on this system?    You mean >>> show console?    K > What is it's value?  Does the value match the console you have connected?   : The "console" I'm using is the monitor, keyboard and mouse# plugged into the system box itself.     G > Many alphas (I don't know if this is one of them) will respond on any L > console port when you type there, regardless of the setting of the CONSOLEL > E.V.  For example, if you set CONSOLE to graphics, and start typing on the' > serial port, the system will respond.  > F > But when you boot VMS, all console (OPA0:) output goes whereever theJ > CONSOLE variable directs it.  So if your E.V. doesn't match the hardwareK > configuration, it appears that there is no console output once VMS starts 
 > to boot.  A Ahh ... Ok, maybe that's it ... can you be a bit more detailed on B how I should check and set the "environment variable" for console?     >>>>b -fl 0,20000 C > (for roots other than [SYS0.], adjust the number before the comma  > appropriately.) I > This enables some debugging output, which can help diagnose how far VMS  > gets before it hangs.   ? I tried   -fl 0,10000  -fl 0,20000  and  -fl 0,30000 and got NO C OUTPUT at all to the monitor with any of those.  I get the "jumping ) to bootstrap code" message and that's it.       A One more thing I should mention ... when I inherited this system, F it had no video card.  I opened up a Digital 200i Personal WorkstationC we've been using for parts and removed its video card.  I installed F it in the Model 400 and when I saw the SRM could display its output onG the monitor, I assumed the video card was Ok in that system and in that  slot.   B But could the problem be that the video card isn't compatible with the system?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:38:35 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> / Subject: Alphastation 255 with "KEYBOARD ERROR" 0 Message-ID: <10epgcj5v7p1d1c@corp.supernews.com>  " Sigh ... one more "dead" Alpha ...  A Alphastation 225 ...  on boot it displays "KEYBOARD ERROR" on the A console monitor and tells me that the serial port will be used as > the console. (Different keyboards tried, none work - some just hang the system)  @ But when I hook up a VT510 to COM 1, I can't get a response from the 255.  @ VT510 is set up as 9600, 8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit.  Is that@ correct?  I also tried using Hyperterm from a PC but also got no response from COM 1.   Are those settings correct?    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jul 2004 11:12:07 -0700 + From: shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) ) Subject: Re: Conversion from RT-11 to VMS = Message-ID: <bec993c8.0407071012.63ef7808@posting.google.com>   h Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<WG1YzffNBYX2@eisner.encompasserve.org>...} > In article <CmhAc.4102$Nt2.2869@news.cpqcorp.net>, lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman) writes:  > D > > I think this clients only option is going to be to BUY some usedF > > hardware (as suggested, a PDP-11 or Micro-VAX with the appropriate- > > drives) and do the conversion themselves.  > K > I don't believe 8 inch floppies were ever a standard Microvax peripheral.   M An RXV21-to-RX01/02 is (was?) supported and does work.  As do the many third-  party RX01/02 Q-bus clones.    Tim.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jul 2004 15:39:35 -0700  From: lsk55@hotmail.com (Scott) - Subject: Re: Datatrieve Help Creating Domains = Message-ID: <926edf3b.0407071439.61189330@posting.google.com>   h cbell@qch.on.ca (Johnny Hosp) wrote in message news:<e2db8f9b.0407070644.24440c79@posting.google.com>... > Hi, G > Can someone help me with a brief overview on the process for creating D > a new domain? I am using datatrieve on a VMS box running a payrollE > system. I need to extract some data. It appears that there is not a F > domain defined that provides the fields I require. I am not clear onF > the overall process for creating a new domain. Do I need to define aD > record before the domain can be defined? Do I need to define a newE > dictionary first? Can the dictionary be linked to a path containing F > the .dat files I believe contains the data I require? Etc.. I do notH > necessarily need the specific commands ( I can find these using Help),= > I just need to know the overall process to get this set up.  > 	 > Thanks,  > JH  1 Hi, JH... Here is an example of the wombat way...   ! In Datatreve enter the following:    DEFINE RECORD MY-REC USING 01  MY-RECORD.     03  MY-FIELD-1   PIC X(10).      03  MY-FIELD-2   PIC 9(10).  ;   @ Once you've done that, it'll tell you the length of your record.! Then enter the following command:   6 DEFINE DOMAIN MY-FILE USING MY-REC ON MY_FILESPEC.DAT;  * You'll be ready to go (sorry for the pun).   --Scott    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 22:56:58 -04004 From: "Hein RMS van den Heuvel" <hein_at_hp_dot_com>- Subject: Re: Datatrieve Help Creating Domains , Message-ID: <40ecba6c$2@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  J The record defintion will describe the fields you'd like to recognize in a$ record it needs to be defined first.K The domain associates a given record definition with a particular (instance  of a) datafile.  The datafile would pre-exist. K Maybe you just need to update an existing  record definition to add/correct  missing (filler) fields?   hth, Hein  0 "Johnny Hosp" <cbell@qch.on.ca> wrote in message7 news:e2db8f9b.0407070644.24440c79@posting.google.com...  > Hi, G > Can someone help me with a brief overview on the process for creating D > a new domain? I am using datatrieve on a VMS box running a payrollE > system. I need to extract some data. It appears that there is not a F > domain defined that provides the fields I require. I am not clear onF > the overall process for creating a new domain. Do I need to define aD > record before the domain can be defined? Do I need to define a newE > dictionary first? Can the dictionary be linked to a path containing F > the .dat files I believe contains the data I require? Etc.. I do notH > necessarily need the specific commands ( I can find these using Help),= > I just need to know the overall process to get this set up.  > 	 > Thanks,  > JH   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:12:51 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>- Subject: Re: diff between a process and batch + Message-ID: <40EC9F93.BA10D6ED@comcast.net>    AMIT wrote:  > 	 > Hi all,  > I have a basic doubt here: > 2 > Are all batch jobs executed by VMS as a process?  C Yes. There are four "modes" in VMS: Interactive, Batch, Network and  Other (detached).   G > Thus every batch job in SHOW SYSTEM/BATCH is also a process (as a PID  > is shown).   Yes.  D > So how do I find out the batch entry number for every batch job in > SHOW SYSTEM/BATCH?  H It has been pointed out that when first created, batch job processes areE named as BATCH_nnnnnnn where "nnnnnnn" is the entry number. A process ! can change its own name, however.   D There is no easy yet reliable way to this for EVERY batch job in theH system, since a process can change its own name. In the reverse approachF (to answer your nest question), you can get the PID of every batch jobA in the system using the JOB_PID item code in F$GETQUI(), then use H F$GETJPI() to get the associated process name. Further, the ENTRY_NUMBERF item code in F$GETQUI() will return the entry number for the job being queried.  E > And vice-versa how do I find the PID for every batch job, given the  > entry number.    Answered above.    D.J.D.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jul 2004 19:51:15 -0700 . From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)- Subject: Re: diff between a process and batch = Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0407071851.2a0fd386@posting.google.com>   g thick_guy_9@yahoo.com (AMIT) wrote in message news:<7e127df6.0407061902.6e675e7e@posting.google.com>... 	 > Hi all,  > I have a basic doubt here: > 2 > Are all batch jobs executed by VMS as a process?   Yes.    G > Thus every batch job in SHOW SYSTEM/BATCH is also a process (as a PID  > is shown).   Yes.   > D > So how do I find out the batch entry number for every batch job in > SHOW SYSTEM/BATCH?  D The default process name for a batch job is BATCH_<entry_no>. If theF process name is changed by a user or the job itself, then all bets areF off. Familiarity with your workload may help, but in the most general,F worst case scenario, you'll have to find the PID's of batch jobs until you hit the PID in question.  E > And vice-versa how do I find the PID for every batch job, given the  > entry number.   D Just run this command file any given batch job: (Note: If this is by; some chance to be shared by multiple users sharing the same E SYS$SCRATCH, you'll have to add the user process PID to the temporary B file name. Note 2: This works on VMS 6.1 and 6.2. It parses outputB from SHOW SYSTEM, so if the headings have changed, this may need aA slight rewrite. Also, the ambitious user can rewrite this to take  advantage of PIPE, if desired.)    $!+  BATCH_INFO.COM  v1.1-2a $! $!   AUTHOR:  Alan E. Feldman  $!: $!   PURPOSE: To get the PID of a batch job and use it in @ $!            a SHOW PROCESS command and show other useful info. $!< $!   Parameters:   P1    - Entry number. Qualifiers for the ( $!                         SHOW PROCESS , $!			   command may be optionally appended. E $!                 P2... - Qualifiers for SHOW PROC/ID=pid (optional)  $!; $!   Example:   $ BAT*CH_INFO :== @disk:[dir]BATCH_INFO.COM  $!" $!              $ BAT 234/ACC/QUOT $!        or $!		$ BAT 234 /ACC /QUOT $! $!!  Define status codes:  $ $ $    BATCH_INFO__STATUS = %X180080006 $    BATCH_INFO__SUCCESS = BATCH_INFO__STATUS + %X00018 $    BATCH_INFO__CONTROL_Y = BATCH_INFO__STATUS + %X000C $  $!!  Establish handlers: $ ! $    STATUS = BATCH_INFO__SUCCESS & $    ON CONTROL_Y THEN GOTO _CONTROL_Y! $    ON WARNING THEN GOTO _ERROR   $  $    WSO := WRITE SYS$OUTPUT $  $    P1ORIG = P1 $    P1 = F$ELEMENT(0,"/",P1)  $    P1END = P1ORIG - P1 $  $    SHOW ENTRY/FULL 'P1' 7 $    BATCH_PID = F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_ENTRY","JOB_PID",P1)  $    IF (BATCH_PID .EQS. "")	 $    THEN  $        WSO " "' $        WSO "No PID; job not running."  $        GOTO _EXIT 
 $    ENDIF $    WSO " "$ $    WSO "Process creation time: ",-1          F$CVTIME(F$GETJPI(BATCH_PID,"LOGINTIM")) ; $    WSO "Current image: ''F$GETJPI(BATCH_PID,"IMAGNAME")'"  $    SHOW PROCESS - C          /ID='BATCH_PID' 'P1END' 'P2' 'P3' 'P4' 'P5' 'P6' 'P7' 'P8'  $    WSO " "7 $    SHOW SYSTEM/BATCH/OUTPUT=SYS$SCRATCH:AEFBAT.AEFTMP 9 $    SEARCH /NOHIGHLIGHT      SYS$SCRATCH:AEFBAT.AEFTMP - 3          'BATCH_PID',"on node","Process Name"/EXACT  $    GOTO _EXIT  $  $_CONTROL_Y:# $    STATUS = BATCH_INFO__CONTROL_Y  $    GOTO _EXIT  $  $_ERROR: $    STATUS = $STATUS  $    GOTO _EXIT  $  $_EXIT: 
 $    SET NOON = $    IF (F$SEARCH("SYS$SCRATCH:AEFBAT.AEFTMP").NES."") THEN - 0         DELETE/NOLOG SYS$SCRATCH:AEFBAT.AEFTMP;* $    WSO " "  $    EXIT STATUS .OR. %X10000000     >  > Thanks > AS   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:01:51 -0400< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>5 Subject: Re: DSPP (EMEA) newsletter too big & in HTML * Message-ID: <2l2s4hF8a9ilU1@uni-berlin.de>   Paul Sture wrote:  >...H > Issue 3 contained a URL to the same content on hp.com; that would have > sufficed.  >...A > Needless to say, I am sending feedback to the relevant address.   F Good luck. I have sent several e-mails to them asking that they eitherF send the newsletter in plain text or stop sending it to me. The latestH (only?, seems to be that some e-mails were simply ignored by them) replyD had something along the lines of "Too bad, to unsubscribe go to thisD link." But there was too much HTML garbage around the link for me toH bother trying to extract it out. Maybe some day they will smarten up andE send out a on-line text only message saying "The latest newsletter is  available at http://..."   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jul 2004 15:43:57 GMT < From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann)/ Subject: Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege? / Message-ID: <cch5nt$8q$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>   q In article <I4rZZqYRbTVp@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: p >In article <ccgb31$it6$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>, gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann) writes:L >> yesterday I noticed that a process filled up the system disk with an everL >> increasing single file. The file belonged to a different account and thisO >> account didn't have enough quotas to fill up the system disk. I noticed that O >> the process in question ran under the SYSTEM account. The latter had EXQUOTA K >> enabled by default. So I removed this privilege from the list of default O >> privileges. It is still an authorized privilege. I don't know whether EQUOTA J >> as a default privilege is some standard setup under OpenVMS. If this isL >> the case, which side effects should I expect? Do other installations have >> a similar setup?  > H >   The SYSTEM account normally has all privileges.  What you realy wantG >   to do is find out how and why that process belonging to a different C >   account was running under the SYSTEM account and correct this.  @ >   Perhaps it needs elevated privilege, but not all privileges.  I Not quite. To be more specific, the product in question is "Pathworks for M Macintosh" or "MSA", a retired product from DEC. It is started via the system K startup procedure and therefore its processes run under the SYSTEM account. L The question is whether I do any harm to the OS if SYSTEM has no EXQUOTA per( default but has to enable it if need be.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:13:33 -0400< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>/ Subject: Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege? * Message-ID: <2l30avF84eagU1@uni-berlin.de>   Christoph Gartmann wrote:  >...D > under the SYSTEM account. The question is whether I do any harm toE > the OS if SYSTEM has no EXQUOTA per default but has to enable it if 
 > need be.  C I don't know the answer to your specific question, but here are two  suggestions;  H 1. Leave EXQUOTA on the SYSTEM account and enabled audits for successfulH use of EXQUOTA (set audit/enable=priv=(success:exquota)/audit) to see ifF SYSTEM uses it. If SYSTEM does not use it during your test period (andA include some reboots in the test period) then you should be safe.   F 2. Add the command SET PROCESS/PRIVILEGE=NOEXQUOTA to the .COM that is causing the problem.  ( I would go with #2 if I had the problem.   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:18:07 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>/ Subject: Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege? + Message-ID: <40ECA0CF.64513700@comcast.net>    Peter Weaver wrote:  >  > Christoph Gartmann wrote:  > >...F > > under the SYSTEM account. The question is whether I do any harm toG > > the OS if SYSTEM has no EXQUOTA per default but has to enable it if  > > need be. > E > I don't know the answer to your specific question, but here are two  > suggestions; > J > 1. Leave EXQUOTA on the SYSTEM account and enabled audits for successfulJ > use of EXQUOTA (set audit/enable=priv=(success:exquota)/audit) to see ifH > SYSTEM uses it. If SYSTEM does not use it during your test period (andC > include some reboots in the test period) then you should be safe.  > H > 2. Add the command SET PROCESS/PRIVILEGE=NOEXQUOTA to the .COM that is > causing the problem. > * > I would go with #2 if I had the problem.  H If I had the problem, I would turn off disquotas on the system disk, putH SYSTEM back to /DEFP=ALL and then try to find out what process filled upG the system disk and what I can do to prevent it. Sounds like a run-away  to me.  B I could send you some DCL code that you could massage to suit yourE needs. It pages me when freespace on a mounted volume changes by more ? than x% (default = 10%) between samples (currently every hour).    D.J.D.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 22:48:36 -04004 From: "Hein RMS van den Heuvel" <hein_at_hp_dot_com>/ Subject: Re: Getting the RFA of Record in COBOL * Message-ID: <40ecb876@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  H Right, Cobol is pretty powerfull in its RMS access (several RMS featuresI where designed to support cobol requirements), but RFA access is probably I pushing it too far. Basic is indeed the language with the best native RFA > support, having an RFA datatype and an RFA clause on GET/FIND.L Still, from what little you wrote on the actual problem to be solved I wouldE have guessed that C or even Macro would be most suited. Just call the K DCOB$RMS_CURRENT_RAB as indicated before and use C or Macro to retrieve the J RFA from there in a trivial matter. Further more, you can actually use theG RAB for access... if you promiss to put everything back as you found it L (notably addresses like UBF, RBF, KBF) all that is easy from C or MACRO, andL while do-able from Basic it becomes a bit more clumsy in that language as itJ does not support a pointer datatype directly (yeah I know... you can often	 fake it).    hth, Hein.       , "Scott" <lsk55@hotmail.com> wrote in message7 news:926edf3b.0407070719.19b07997@posting.google.com...  : I > Unfortunately, the BAS$GETRFA function isn't the complete answer, since I > BASIC needs a channel number.  So, I bagged it all and wrote a 10 (+/-) H > line BASIC program to do it for me.  :-)  Maybe some things just ought > not be done in COBOL.  > K > Sort will produce a tag file with RFA's in it too, if I remember rightly.  > # > Thank you for your answers, guys.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:39:34 -0400( From: "Wayne" <bruzeks@atcomcastdot.net>1 Subject: How does VMS decide what to call a disk? 0 Message-ID: <ir-dnbVzeuElFHHdRVn-hA@comcast.com>   'Splain something to me please?   / Here's where I mount a shadow set at boot time:   ' $ sea sys$startup:mount_disks.com dsa22 F $ MOUNT/SYS/NOASS DSA22:/SHADOW=($1$DGA22:,$1$DGA46:)  DSA22    DSA22:  E Here's the definition of some logicals that point to that shadow set:   " $ sea disk01:[sysfiles]*.com dsa22   ******************************$ DSA1:[SYSFILES]BUILD_LOGICALS.COM;14   $ assi/sys/exec dsa22: disk02: $ assi/sys/exec dsa22: disk22:  ! Here's a display of the logicals:    $ sh log disk02 )    "DISK02" = "DSA22:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) ( 1  "DSA22" = "DSA22:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) $ sh log dsa22*    (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)    (LNM$JOB_8146F640)   (LNM$GROUP_000275)   (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)     "DSA22" = "DSA22:"   (LNM$SYSCLUSTER_TABLE)   (DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES)   And a display of the device:   $ sh dev dsa22:   L Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans Mnt L  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count Cnt L DSA22:                  Mounted              0  DSA22         33634335     2 4 B $1$DGA22:       (LUCY)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA22:)B $1$DGA46:       (LUCY)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA22:)   $ sh dev disk02:  L Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans Mnt L  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count Cnt L DSA22:                  Mounted              0  DSA22         33634335     2 4 B $1$DGA22:       (LUCY)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA22:)B $1$DGA46:       (LUCY)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA22:)  ( Now I do a show def, and it says DISK02:   $ set def [oracle9i] $ sh def   DISK02:[oracle9i]   2 Now I move up a directory level and it says DSA22:  
 $ set def [-]  $ dir    Directory DSA22:[000000]  H 000000.DIR;1        9202KIT.DIR;1       BACKUP.SYS;1        BADBLK.SYS;1                    etc.  Total of 14 files.   Why is that?   TIA,   Wayne    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:57:29 -0400( From: "Wayne" <bruzeks@atcomcastdot.net>5 Subject: Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk? 0 Message-ID: <QdqdnTpjXJxxEHHdRVn-gg@comcast.com>  J More info - actually it doesn't matter if I move from one dir to another (
 the [-] ).  J The $SH DEF always says DISK02:, while the $DIR alway has a DSA22: header.   Sorry to have over complicated.    Wayne L ----------------------------------------------------------------------------	 ---------  > $ set def [oracle9i]
 > $ sh def >   DISK02:[oracle9i]  > $ dir  >  > Directory DSA22:[000000]   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:25:43 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>5 Subject: Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk? + Message-ID: <40ECA297.6F3E2228@comcast.net>    Wayne wrote: > L > More info - actually it doesn't matter if I move from one dir to another ( > the [-] ). > L > The $SH DEF always says DISK02:, while the $DIR alway has a DSA22: header. > ! > Sorry to have over complicated.  >  > Wayne N > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------  > > $ set def [oracle9i] > > $ sh def > >   DISK02:[oracle9i] 	 > > $ dir  > >  > > Directory DSA22:[000000]  D You can specify a device (or logical) name in a SET DEFAULT command.   See the HELP for SET DEFAULT  H I'd like to refer you to my website for more info., but it's down at the9 moment (doamin name renewal snafu - should be fixed RSN).    D.J.D.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 00:05:18 -0500 + From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) P Subject: Re: HP beats IBM in new cluster Total Cost of Ownership comparisonstudy3 Message-ID: <Guf95N5e0c25@eisner.encompasserve.org>   n In article <7KUGc.5433$SN1.4454@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> writes: > L > Not my job Beavis.  Someone with a lot more patience and desire can googleM > all the misinformation and ducking out of real questions you've done in the G > past.  I simply don't have either.  I've got code to write, things toe > design... as opposed to you. > M > In the end, it looks like I'll watch you fade away as the SUN sets (perhaps N > it will become a wholly owned part of Fujitsu).  It's just a matter of time.K > You can't keep bleeding red ink forever, and becomming an AMD clone makere& > isn't going to revive your fortunes. >   2 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/07/sun_q4_up/  ; 	It appears they will thrash about for a bit before they goe3 	down.  The Loon is upbeat about Sun's 4th Quarter:r  N Sun Microsystems' arch-nemesis analyst Steven Milunovich issued a surprisinglyM positive note for the company today, saying fourth quarter revenue appears tol" be coming in higher than expected.  ! 	But of course, not too positive:d  K "There may be a near-term trade in the stock on the quarter, but structuralsN concerns and lack of confidence in earnings power keep our rating at Neutral," he closed. e  C 	Seems Sun is re-arranging the deck chairs and cutting loose and/or D 	putting the squeeze on some pesky contractors in the U.K.  Cutting  	headcount and saving money:  ? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/07/sun_support_outsourced/W  H Sun Microsystems is to offload 40 UK engineers from its managed servicesK business with an outsourcing contract due to begin on 1 September. The siteiM based engineers - who provide front-line support for Sun servers at BT, RollssM Royce and major banks like Credit Suisse - learned last week that their rolestM had been put out to competitive tender. A consultation period between workers-N and managers will take place this month. We understand Suns customers will not be consulted over the move.p  N The move affects only site-based service engineers not staff from Sun's largerG field services organisation. One of those affected, who asked to remain : anonymous, said that staff felt "very angry and let down".     				Robh   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 00:13:26 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com>0F Subject: Re: Intel Itanium's very survival in doubt - inquirer article0 Message-ID: <cci02m$hc9$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bill Todd wrote:5 > "Rick Jones" <foo@bar.baz.invalid> wrote in message.. > news:0j%Ec.5218$%m3.5109@news.cpqcorp.net... > + >>Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote:- >>B >>>This thought just crossed my mind: surely, the numbers you wereF >>>providing represented running 32-bit operating systems, rather thanC >>>just running 32-bit Red Hat or HP-UX applications under a native  >>>Itanic OS - right?  >>H >>Native OSes.  I do not believe that 32-bit OSes have been supported onG >>Itanium since Merced (but could be wrong). And there has never been a:2 >>32-bit HP-UX _OS_ supported on Itanium hardware. >  > L > Then if the applications spent any significant time in the OS code (ratherG > than running mostly without OS intervention after being started), theoM > performance values you obtained were not for 32-bit x86 emulation but for aWI > mixture of 32-bit x86 emulation and native OS code execution - which ofu5 > course would be higher than for pure x86 emulation.  >    Correct.  9 Your mileage may vary with different versions of bind but ; one of the bind tuning examples includes some "top" numbersoA for HP-UX systems just running bind and nothing else. The numbers"; show that the ratio of kernel to user is roughly 60% kernel 	 40% user.    Regards  Andrew Harrison    > - bill >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:29:47 GMTn1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>e< Subject: Re: interfacing dec basic to web based applications< Message-ID: <%2ZGc.7014$Lf7.6746@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>   Craig Marburger wrote:N > I have data in rms databases and that uses dec basic.  How would I interfaceN > the database with the internet(http web based).  What software or interfacesM > would I use to accomplish this?  Is there any web links with information onl9 > how to accomplish this.  I have tcpip, vms Version 7.2.  >  > Craig Marburgerh > craig@marburgerdairy.com >  >   I and if none of the other responses seem appealing to you, you can always 0H hire a consultant (Michael Austin comes to mind :) ) that has done this D in the past and can redesign the app for web access using what ever E technologies you want .. including PHP, Perl, Python or even DCL and hG DECC or uses some "connectors" and just use a browser as your display. lG There are lots of ways to skin the cat, it all depends on how much $$$ 0 you want to spend...   Regards,   Michael Austin.v http://www.firstdbasource.coms   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jul 2004 13:59:46 -0500B- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)i" Subject: Re: Itanium Porting Class3 Message-ID: <JYeXcZB68oNI@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  ] In article <40ebec13@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_hp.com> writes:n  N > One comment about LMF - It is possible to share activity  PAKs between AlphaB > and I64.  the pak should have the IA64_ALPHA keyword. It is also? > possible to share a pak between all 3 architectures using thep > IA64_ALPHA_VAX keyword.o  G How about our already-issued per-user PAKs that are can be used on both F Alpha and VAX ?  Will those work on Itanium ?  If we had to issue someG new PAK to the existing customer, we have no way to "retract" what they 
 already have.   F If we _wanted_ to require I64 users to get a new PAK for our products,F we could just change the product name from MYPRODUCT to MYPRODUCT-I64.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jul 2004 14:11:05 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)h" Subject: Re: Itanium Porting Class3 Message-ID: <Oyl$u3vjcFko@eisner.encompasserve.org>t  c In article <JYeXcZB68oNI@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:o_ > In article <40ebec13@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_hp.com> writes:h > O >> One comment about LMF - It is possible to share activity  PAKs between Alpha,C >> and I64.  the pak should have the IA64_ALPHA keyword. It is alsoi@ >> possible to share a pak between all 3 architectures using the >> IA64_ALPHA_VAX keyword.  D How about at least adding an ALL_ARCHITECTURES keyword so this won't happen again ?  A Both times VMS moved to another architecture LMF has been kludged A to implement DEC/HP product licensing transition policies d'jour,i( without compatibility for third parties.  I > How about our already-issued per-user PAKs that are can be used on both H > Alpha and VAX ?  Will those work on Itanium ?  If we had to issue someI > new PAK to the existing customer, we have no way to "retract" what theys > already have.  > H > If we _wanted_ to require I64 users to get a new PAK for our products,H > we could just change the product name from MYPRODUCT to MYPRODUCT-I64.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:14:01 GMTu" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Java page is DOAv0 Message-ID: <00A347BD.82403431@SendSpamHere.ORG>  B Mozilla page has a link to the Java Plugin that does not function:  2 http://h18010.www1.hp.com/java/download/index.html   :( -- rB http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.  -- pK VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMe             5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:26:00 GMTe5 From: "Steve O'Hara" <sohara@pivotal-solutions.co.uk> 4 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au: Message-ID: <ITZGc.5023$1p.3594@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   Hi,   & The firmware is definitely the latest.G I'm not aware of any special 500au instructions other than the standarde9 stuff on the HP site to do with checking for Cypress etc.o   Steveg    3 "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote in messagen- news:002001c463f0$ddc9b060$994614ac@wat153...p > Hello, >mF > did you install the newest firmware (6.6?)? Did you read the releaseG > notes for OpenVMS 7.3-1 and any special remark about DPWS500au. We doeC > have five of this nice workstations. But only as satellites in and > OpenVMS cluster V7.3-1 AXP.  >t > Best regards R. Wingertt >O   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:29:56 GMTp5 From: "Steve O'Hara" <sohara@pivotal-solutions.co.uk>_4 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au: Message-ID: <oXZGc.5047$1p.3225@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   Hi,l  E The odd thing is that the CD does actually boot i.e. it's finding the1J bottstrap code on the start of the CD that contains the VMS banner........7 I'm waiting for SCSI CD to turn so that I can try that.a   Thanks,  Steve     . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message3 news:NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEBCDIAA.tom@kednos.com...oH > It may be the CD has the wrong sector size.  There was some discussion: > of that recently her.  Also have a look at the faq, e.g.6 > http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/vms_hobbyist_faq.txt >n >   -----Original Message-----> >   From: Steve O'Hara [mailto:sohara@pivotal-solutions.co.uk]( >   Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:09 PM >   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com'4 >   Subject: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au >e > J >   I'm trying to install VMS on this box and can't get past word go......K >   The box had True64 on it, loaded by the previous owner who installed it0 toI >   test the box - therfore I figured that it would likely be OK for VMS.rC >   I've checked the configuration (Toshiba CD-ROM with Cypress IDEa >   controller),# >   changed os_type to OpenVMS etc.-@ >   The machine will boot from the floopy for firmware upgrade - >   current versionu
 >   is 7.2-1.a >vK >   Everything looks fine and indeed when I try to bbot from the CD it does F >   recognise that it is a bootable disc and jumps the bootstrap code.F >   It then displays the "OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3-1"a# >   banner and just hangs..........t > L >   I've tried a different CD, swapped out the CD-ROM drive, swapped out the& >   hard disk too but all to no avail. >I >   Any ideas ?????? >e >   Thanks,l >s	 >   Steve  >  >s >   ---w* >   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.> >   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).D >   Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 >  > ---u( > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).B > Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 >t   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:23:26 GMTa5 From: "Steve O'Hara" <sohara@pivotal-solutions.co.uk>o4 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au: Message-ID: <iRZGc.5007$1p.4214@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   Hi Tom,j  @ The SHOW CONFIG definitely says that it is a Cypress controller.K It does indeed have USB ports on the back and a built in SCSI controller ont the motherboard.  K Starngely, the box has both a SCSI hard drive and an IDE drive but the SCSIe/ disk doesn't seem to show up on the SHO DEVICE.   K I've got a SCSI CD-ROM coming from eBay so I'll let everyone know how I geto
 on with that.hL With a bit of luck that's all it is - don't like the idea of the motherboard swap!!   Thanks,v   Stevei        3 "Tom Crabtree" <tccrab@sunset.net> wrote in message & news:cchc6801lml@enews1.newsguy.com...J > > I'm trying to install VMS on this box and can't get past word go......K > > The box had True64 on it, loaded by the previous owner who installed itd toI > > test the box - therfore I figured that it would likely be OK for VMS. C > > I've checked the configuration (Toshiba CD-ROM with Cypress IDEa controller),# > > changed os_type to OpenVMS etc.e >j+ > Are you sure it has the Cypress chip set?mG > Does the system have the USB ports on the back, and is the SCSI builtR > into the motherboard? K > If not, it's a Miata MX5, and OpenVMS will not recognize the IDE chipset.fB > If it does have the USB ports, then it is a Miata GL and OpenVMS@ > *should* recognize the IDE. "Should" being the operative word.2 > Try adding a Toshiba (or compatible) SCSI CDRom. > H > > The machine will boot from the floopy for firmware upgrade - current versiono
 > > is 7.2-1.  > >.K > > Everything looks fine and indeed when I try to bbot from the CD it does F > > recognise that it is a bootable disc and jumps the bootstrap code.F > > It then displays the "OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3-1"7# > > banner and just hangs..........@F > I've seen this on at least two different occasions.  Once was simpleA > swap out IDE CDRom with SCSI.  The other was more involved, ando5 > eventually required replacement of the motherboard.( > >ZL > > I've tried a different CD, swapped out the CD-ROM drive, swapped out the& > > hard disk too but all to no avail. >d4 > Is the HD a SCSI or IDE?  IDE probably won't work. >  > TomC >c   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Jul 2004 11:17:06 -0700e0 From: dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com (Dave Baxter); Subject: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ????i= Message-ID: <a3c44af1.0407071017.5d2612b4@posting.google.com>-  E During the recent July 4th weekend, I was stupid enough to take a few F days off.     Of course, wouldn't you know it, this was when one of my. HSG80 disk controllers decided to take a dump.C     As far as I am aware, I have my SAN/CLUSTER configured for high7E redundancy, and therefore I am trying to figure out why my system hadiD such a bad time when all that happened was that a controller failed.  E Cluster = 1x ES40 (4-way 833MHz) + 1 GS1280 (4-way 1.15 GHz) + Quorumr Disk.e  A Storage 2 pairs of HSG80 Disk Controllers. each pr configured forsD Multibus-Failover.   and in dual-redundant configuration.    None of& the disk devices have preferred paths.  @ Both Host systems have dual HBA's and are connected to redundant fabrics.  @ Within the cluster I use Host-based shadowing.     Each HSG pair* contributes one member to each shadow-set.  B Therefore, there are 4 physical paths available from each host, to  each member of every shadow-set.  C When a disk controller fails, it is supposed to failover all of thenB drives it has responsibility for to its partner.     I assume that> this might also involve a period of Mount Verification for the@ affected volumes.     The message I received from the Management station was1  ?      "PROD11: Shadow set DSA12: has no member device on NODE01"r  C This implies to me that the Shadow set has no members !!?   Is thisS what it is really saying ???  @ If anyone could clarify this message that would probably help meE understand the weekends events.    Also, If anyone could describe the 5 events which take place when a Controller fails-over.:   My thanks in advance   Dave Baxter    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:22:02 -0500e2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>? Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ????e+ Message-ID: <40ECA1B9.9777C6C5@comcast.net>    Dave Baxter wrote: > G > During the recent July 4th weekend, I was stupid enough to take a few H > days off.     Of course, wouldn't you know it, this was when one of my0 > HSG80 disk controllers decided to take a dump.E >     As far as I am aware, I have my SAN/CLUSTER configured for higheG > redundancy, and therefore I am trying to figure out why my system hadoF > such a bad time when all that happened was that a controller failed. > G > Cluster = 1x ES40 (4-way 833MHz) + 1 GS1280 (4-way 1.15 GHz) + Quorumt > Disk.d > C > Storage 2 pairs of HSG80 Disk Controllers. each pr configured foraF > Multibus-Failover.   and in dual-redundant configuration.    None of( > the disk devices have preferred paths. > B > Both Host systems have dual HBA's and are connected to redundant
 > fabrics. > B > Within the cluster I use Host-based shadowing.     Each HSG pair, > contributes one member to each shadow-set. > D > Therefore, there are 4 physical paths available from each host, to" > each member of every shadow-set. > E > When a disk controller fails, it is supposed to failover all of theiD > drives it has responsibility for to its partner.     I assume that@ > this might also involve a period of Mount Verification for theB > affected volumes.     The message I received from the Management
 > station waso > A >      "PROD11: Shadow set DSA12: has no member device on NODE01"  > E > This implies to me that the Shadow set has no members !!?   Is thisj > what it is really saying ??? > B > If anyone could clarify this message that would probably help meG > understand the weekends events.    Also, If anyone could describe thes7 > events which take place when a Controller fails-over.e >  > My thanks in advance > 
 > Dave Baxter"  < If you have a support contract, you'd do well to log a call.  G Personally, I've never seen a valid use for TNT (OVMS Mgt Stn) out heree in the real world.   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 23:21:12 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>b? Subject: RE: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ????sR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB394B58@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----> > From: David J Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@comcast.net]=20 > Sent: July 7, 2004 9:22 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comr@ > Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station - cluster storage ???? >=20	 [snip ..]   > > If you have a support contract, you'd do well to log a call. >=20> > Personally, I've never seen a valid use for TNT (OVMS Mgt=20 > Stn) out here8 > in the real world. >=20 > D.J.D. >=20   David,  F I usually position the OpenVMS Management Station as something for the> help desk environment where they prefer a GUI to manage users, passwords, queues etc.  F System managers or other more experienced folks will typically use DCL. and other traditional system management tools.   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultantt HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcoma. (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:11:11 -0400* From: "Jim Jennis" <jhjennis@adelphia.net>= Subject: OpenVMS ssh login problem with pre-expired passwordsr1 Message-ID: <Yaqdne1fFNv5-3HdRVn-jg@adelphia.com>    Hi All,r  L I am having a problem using ssh eak logging into accounts where the passwordJ is expired or pre-expired. I am running OpenVMS 7.3-1 with HP/Compaq TCPIPC services for OpenVMS 5.3- installed and the ssh eak version 503-15.m  J When a password is expired (or pre-expired) on an account, you will get anF authentication failure, but the opportunity to run DCL SET PASSWORD toJ change your password is never passed to the ssh client. If you connect via telnet, everything is fine..  8 The newer TCPIP services 5.4 SSH manual says you can set AllowVmsLoginWithExpiredPw yes  L To change this behavior. I tried this, but it does not seem to work with theL EAK. Has anyone been able to solve this problem? (Upgrading to OpenVMS 7.3-26 and TCPIP services 5.4 is NOT an option at this point)   TIA for any help/advice!   Regards,   JimQ  ! Jim Jennis, Integration Architectn WRQ Consulting Services, Inc.* 124 Old Forest CircleB Winchester, VA. 22602 USA.   Phone: +1-540-723-0157 FAX: +1-206-272-1394 Email:jimj@wrq.com       jhjennis@shentel.net WEB: http://www.wrq.com/  . WRQ - Access. Integrate. Transform Since 19813 ---------------------------------------------------=   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:58:42 +0200, From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>9 Subject: Re: Question about AS 800 and display resolution * Message-ID: <2l2rulF7rd7pU1@uni-berlin.de>  E "Alain Chappuis" <Alain.Chappuis@medecine.unige.ch.nospam> schreef in ( bericht news:40ebbff8$1@nntp.unige.ch... > Hello,$ > My old alpha 3000-m600 is died :-(, > I replaced by one AS 800 and it work well! >". > But in CDE I have a 800X600 SVGA resolution!B > In the server we have an S3 Trio64/Trio32 graphic card on board. >tA > My question: it is possible to have better resolution, such as:W% > 1024X768 or better 1280X1024 in CDE, >AC > If you have a good solution let me know in detail how to make it.2 > (I'm not use frendly VSM)8 >  > Thank you in advance.Y > AlainH   Salut Alain,  J my Alpha's have the same S3 graphic card. The configuration file I use is:  	 $ set verA- $! Set the Resolution X and Y Size in Pixels:G  $ decw$server_page_file== 160000 $ decw$xsize_in_pixels == 1280 $ decw$ysize_in_pixels == 10246 $ define/exec/system/nolog decw$server_pixel_depth  246 $ define/exec/system/nolog decw$server_refresh_rate 75 $ set nover"  B The name of the file is: sys$manager:decw$private_server_setup.com  L The graphics display that you use must of course match these requirements as well.-L My Digital Server 3000 (white box equivalent of your AS 800) uses an old NEC
 MultiSync 3FGcG and no way the resulution is ever going to improve over 800x600 on that  tube!-   Hans   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 20:26:02 +0200, From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>8 Subject: Re: question on terminal settings for an AS1200* Message-ID: <2l2thuF83ioqU1@uni-berlin.de>  J "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> schreef in bericht- news:JR5JDLwVIF89@eisner.encompasserve.org... ? > In article <e5bea15d.0407070601.214753d1@posting.google.com>, G kirk.reindl@osioutsourcing.com (kirk.reindl@osioutsourcing.com) writes:u > > Hi:o > >h8 > > Our company just purchased a used AS1200 DEC server.J > > I've loaded VMS OS ver 7.3-1 in an attempt to test upgrading to 7.3-2. > > H > > Can someone tell me what set term configs I should have so my screen > > paints correctly?: >. >    Try >e >       set terminal/vt52n >       edit/edt >aF >    There's a partial VT52 emulator in many of the graphics consoles,H >    imperfect but good enough for editing with EDT.  I'm not sure about >    the AS1200. >oL VT52 emulation kind of works, but the big black glass tube you're looking at in ASCIIG mode is dumber than a dumb terminal :-) Just about the only things that. behaves as expectedn& is clear screen when put in VT52 mode.H Basically the best thing to do is learn EDT commands and work from the *
 prompt andJ to stay away from screen mode. I mean, cardpunches didn't have screen mode
 either and that worked too, right?    Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:32:50 +0200c1 From: Milan Jercic <milan.jercicNOS@PAMaccess.si>m- Subject: Re: Split I/Os to contiguous file???i+ Message-ID: <40ECA442.6050800@PAMaccess.si>a   Galen wrote: > H > Benchmark:  HP's internal IOHAMMER (customized slightly by me to allowG >             larger I/O sizes and to avoid 32-bit integer overflow in T >             rate computation)s > ? > Measured Maximum Performance (roughly) found at 256 blocks/IO * >   synchronous:  128 MB/sec,  983 IO/sec D >  Asynchronous:  147 MB/sec, 1128 IO/sec, avg. queue depth set to 2 >   = Is IOHAMMER freely available or can be obtained only via CSC?   M Can you send me your customized version? I'm curious what numbers will I get TO from our configuration: ES40 4x 800Mhz, 4 GB RAM, HSG80 (1x FC, 6 x SCSI), 6 x a! HP ~145 GB 10Krpm, spread evenly.m   TIA,        J.M   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.374 ************************