1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 08 Jul 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 375       Contents:+ Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!) + Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!) + Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!) + Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)  Alpha 255 died$ Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot$ Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot$ Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot$ Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot* Re: Alphastation 255 with "KEYBOARD ERROR" Re: Blogging on VMS $ Re: Datatrieve Help Creating Domains$ Re: Datatrieve Help Creating Domains$ Re: diff between a process and batch& Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege?& Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege?J Hello, I want to complain-- [You want to complain!] (Was:  Accuweather...), Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?, Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?, Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?, Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?, Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?8 Re: How to influence file extend size of C stream files?G Re: HP beats IBM in new cluster Total Cost of Ownership comparisonstudy G Re: HP beats IBM in new cluster Total Cost of Ownership comparisonstudy = Re: Intel Itanium's very survival in doubt - inquirer article ? Is anyone interested in an HP World 2004 comp.os.vms (COV) BOF? 8 Re: OpenVMS ssh login problem with pre-expired passwords( Porting a compiler from Alpha to Itanium, Re: Porting a compiler from Alpha to Itanium0 Re: Question about AS 800 and display resolution/ Re: question on terminal settings for an AS1200  raid 210/swxcr etc Re: raid 210/swxcr etc Re: raid 210/swxcr etc Re: raid 210/swxcr etc Re: Reading from a LAT device  Re: Reading from a LAT device $ Re: Split I/Os to contiguous file???4 Transferring a VMS file system onto a Unix-based SAN8 Re: Transferring a VMS file system onto a Unix-based SAN Re: XBitHack in SWS 2.0?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:27:34 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> 4 Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)8 Message-ID: <dlrpe093jqgd8j1jlr8snkdp4tlv3b8f6m@4ax.com>  P On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:02:14 -0500, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote:  H >Well, yes and no. A promo. targetted to Windows users only seems like aH >half-effort, worthy of recognition, but leaves the audience wanting (asG >evidenced by this thread). A promo. that is agnostic of platform seems $ >to make a stronger statement, IMHO.  L What format would you propose? Remember it must work without downloading anyA additional software for the vast majority of the target audience.    -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 10:09:23 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")4 Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)6 Message-ID: <00A34821.6F231BDF@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  \ In article <dlrpe093jqgd8j1jlr8snkdp4tlv3b8f6m@4ax.com>, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> writes:Q >On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:02:14 -0500, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>  >wrote:  > I >>Well, yes and no. A promo. targetted to Windows users only seems like a I >>half-effort, worthy of recognition, but leaves the audience wanting (as H >>evidenced by this thread). A promo. that is agnostic of platform seems% >>to make a stronger statement, IMHO.  > M >What format would you propose? Remember it must work without downloading any B >additional software for the vast majority of the target audience.  J I actually disagree with David's premise.  (I mean, yes, I'd prefer a niceI MP3 myself, but something that will work on the platform used by 90%+ of  K desktop users is a pretty good deal.)  It'd be nice if it were _also_ there K in Quicktime, too, but I'm just not going to get on HP's case for putting a B VMS promo in a format the vast majority of its customers can read.  < (And I say that as someone who is not very fond of Windows.)   -- Alan    --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 08:05:36 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 4 Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)3 Message-ID: <0S5Xuw+9vM$f@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <40EC9D16.6F16C23E@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes: > I > Well, yes and no. A promo. targetted to Windows users only seems like a I > half-effort, worthy of recognition, but leaves the audience wanting (as H > evidenced by this thread). A promo. that is agnostic of platform seems% > to make a stronger statement, IMHO.   E    If I wanted to promote VMS< I would target Windows and UNIX users. @    The presentation would have to be one the Windows users could%    double-click on and then go "wow".    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 06:29:07 -0700 . From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)4 Subject: Re: Accuweather video mentions VMS (TWICE!)= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0407080529.3d8b83c5@posting.google.com>   e David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<40EC9D16.6F16C23E@comcast.net>...  > "Alan E. Feldman" wrote: > > q > > Charles Shannon Hendrix <shannon@news.widomaker.com> wrote in message news:<bi5fcc.lt2.ln@escape.goid.lan>... D > > > On 2004-07-06, Alan E. Feldman <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > N > > > > I've viewed so few videos from the Net that this has never happened toM > > > > me. I've had problems viewing videos, yes. But still this is great to L > > > > see HP promoting VMS, even if it's not the best possible effort. WhyL > > > > don't you ask them to remove the video and destroy it? Would that be > > > > better?  > > > > G > > > > I'm not going to let the nitpickers ruin this for me. I enjoyed  > > > > watching it a lot. > > > J > > > If they aren't providing it in a standard format, just how seriously+ > > > can you take this "promotion" of VMS?  > > G > > You would prefer a promotion of something else on a VMS-friendly or   > > otherwise "standard" format? >  > Non-sequitur.   B I disagree. What's more important? Promoting VMS or using standardE formats? Promoting VMS, of course! So why be more upset of the lesser A of the two? Don't miss the forest for the trees, or whatever that 
 saying is!  3 > > Come on. Any VMS promotion is better than none.  >  > Well, yes and no.    Bull-Oh-Ney!  6  A promo. targetted to Windows users only seems like aI > half-effort, worthy of recognition, but leaves the audience wanting (as H > evidenced by this thread). A promo. that is agnostic of platform seems% > to make a stronger statement, IMHO.     0 Yes, but a half-effort is better than no effort:    E                                0.5 > 0                       Eq. (1)      E Yes, it is true: it would have been better to have used an "agnostic" > [?] format. But this is still better than nothing and is to be encouraged, not pooh-poohed.  C > > Which would get a more positive response from hp in the future? E > > Thanking hp for this promotion and asking them to use a "standard G > > format" in the future or just harping on them without the slightest 3 > > recognition of them having done something good?  > B > Depends. Were they not so consistent in ignoring the non-WindowsI > population, one might be more inclined to overlook the short-fall. When G > their every move re-validates the "Windows is the world, the world is @ > Windows" mantra, ... fill in your own ending to that sentence.  C Since most of the world is on Windows, there are few who would miss C the video. Why get all bent out of shape over missing a few? If you E can't show them the video, then send them the transcript. And a video E promoting VMS is a video promoting VMS. Do you think people are going = to view the window promoting VMS and Accuweather and think to D themselves "Hmmm. Some psychic power is penetrating my brain telling? me that this video only runs on Windows. Therefore, the VMS and @ AccuWeather(TM) really means I should invest more in Windows andC forget everything else". I don't know, Dave, sounds pretty silly to  me!   G > > If you did something you thought was good and people just yelled at I > > you for not doing it quite right, would that encourage you to do more * > > and try to correct what you did wrong? > C > Ask that question of a child development expert. The answer might  > surprise you.   F Well, hp is not a child. I suggest that you call up Carly and ball her? out to the max! See what good it does. And what do these "child ! development experts" know anyway?   ! > > If Guy Peleg implemented some J > > cool new DCL function but did something slightly wrong, would you yellI > > at him for it instead of thanking him and then expect him to continue F > > to be enthusiastic about adding functionality to DCL? I think not! > J > Well, typically this group will be among the first to find/point out theI > faults. I like to think that the likes of Guy, Fred, etc. would exploit J > that to their best advantage (a ready group of beta-testers, if somewhat > sharp-toothed).   D But the group would sensibly avoid nasty insults and the like, which
 was my point.    >  > Just MHO - YMMV... >  > D.J.D.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:58:42 +0200I From: Miguel Angel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Us=F3n?= Finkenzeller <mauf2@unizar.es>  Subject: Alpha 255 died 3 Message-ID: <l03110701bd133383dd82@[155.210.90.37]>   	 Dear all!   I On Monday, after almost 8 years operation, I found that my VMS system had 3 changed to console (operator?) mode, all by itself.   J No response to CTRL+F2 nor to the reset button, apparently. After poweringG down and up, I don=B4t even get a signal on the screen (no >>> prompt). I "Blind booting" (i.e., typing 'boot' in the keyboard after some 2 minutes K have passed) does not cause any activity or sound, so I presume the trouble   is not just a faulty video card.  J I have tried my best. The power supply puts out the expected +-12, +5, andD 3.3 voltages; DKA0 spins up; the fans (power supply and CPU cooling)K rotate; the motherboard diagnostic LED goes on on reset, and off after some G 10 seconds; the CPU radiator warms up and the cooling fan increases its L speed after some one and a half minutes; and no error beep codes are issued.  H Any help or hint will be greatly appreciated. Digital/Compaq/HP expensesC have always been prohibitive in Spain, and I am facing the dreadful J perspective of joining the suicide squadron of MSWindows users: I probably> will not convince my boss to pay for a visit of the HP serviceH representative more than what a "wonderful, brand new Wintel box" costs.     Thanks in advance,   Miguel Angel Us=F3n    ------------ Dept. of Inorganic Chemistry University of Zaragoza
 E-50006 SPAIN    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:52:09 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) - Subject: Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0807040557440001@user-105n8dp.dialup.mindspring.com>  A In article <10epg93fbbglp89@corp.supernews.com>, z@no.spam wrote:    >Robert Deininger wrote:: >> Is there a CONSOLE environment variable on this system? >  >You mean >>> show console?   C Yes, or something similar.  There's some variation between systems.   J SHOW or SHOW * would show you all the environment variables.  Also use the console's HELP command.   4 The usual values for CONSOLE are SERIAL or GRAPHICS.  F The oldest Alphas didn't have an E.V. for this, they used a mechanical$ switch which was sensed at power-up.    L >> What is it's value?  Does the value match the console you have connected? > ; >The "console" I'm using is the monitor, keyboard and mouse $ >plugged into the system box itself. >    ...   @ >I tried   -fl 0,10000  -fl 0,20000  and  -fl 0,30000 and got NOD >OUTPUT at all to the monitor with any of those.  I get the "jumping* >to bootstrap code" message and that's it. >  >  > B >One more thing I should mention ... when I inherited this system,G >it had no video card.  I opened up a Digital 200i Personal Workstation D >we've been using for parts and removed its video card.  I installedG >it in the Model 400 and when I saw the SRM could display its output on H >the monitor, I assumed the video card was Ok in that system and in that >slot.  B If it had no video, it was likely configured for a serial console.  C >But could the problem be that the video card isn't compatible with  >the system?  J Even with an unsupported card, I think you'd get more output than you do. H VMS talks to the console device via firmware callbacks, and the FW seemsJ to know how to deal with the card.  Usually unsupported cards "work" up toD the point where VMS wants to turn off VGA mode and start DECwindows.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:59:20 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>- Subject: Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot * Message-ID: <2l4k7pF8i44mU1@uni-berlin.de>   Z wrote:   > A > I tried   -fl 0,10000  -fl 0,20000  and  -fl 0,30000 and got NO E > OUTPUT at all to the monitor with any of those.  I get the "jumping + > to bootstrap code" message and that's it.  >   G Which is exactly what I see when I boot from a serial line on an Alpha  / which has the console variable set as graphics.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 06:18:38 -0700 2 From: williamwebb@openvms-rocks.com (William Webb)- Subject: Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot = Message-ID: <bf98c417.0407080518.495faa41@posting.google.com>   K Z <z@no.spam> wrote in message news:<10epg93fbbglp89@corp.supernews.com>...  > Robert Deininger wrote: ; > > Is there a CONSOLE environment variable on this system?  >  > You mean >>> show console? >  > M > > What is it's value?  Does the value match the console you have connected?  > < > The "console" I'm using is the monitor, keyboard and mouse% > plugged into the system box itself.  >  > I > > Many alphas (I don't know if this is one of them) will respond on any N > > console port when you type there, regardless of the setting of the CONSOLEN > > E.V.  For example, if you set CONSOLE to graphics, and start typing on the) > > serial port, the system will respond.  > > H > > But when you boot VMS, all console (OPA0:) output goes whereever theL > > CONSOLE variable directs it.  So if your E.V. doesn't match the hardwareM > > configuration, it appears that there is no console output once VMS starts  > > to boot. > C > Ahh ... Ok, maybe that's it ... can you be a bit more detailed on D > how I should check and set the "environment variable" for console? >  >  > >>>>b -fl 0,20000 E > > (for roots other than [SYS0.], adjust the number before the comma  > > appropriately.) K > > This enables some debugging output, which can help diagnose how far VMS  > > gets before it hangs.  > A > I tried   -fl 0,10000  -fl 0,20000  and  -fl 0,30000 and got NO E > OUTPUT at all to the monitor with any of those.  I get the "jumping + > to bootstrap code" message and that's it.  >  >  > C > One more thing I should mention ... when I inherited this system, H > it had no video card.  I opened up a Digital 200i Personal WorkstationE > we've been using for parts and removed its video card.  I installed H > it in the Model 400 and when I saw the SRM could display its output onI > the monitor, I assumed the video card was Ok in that system and in that  > slot.  > D > But could the problem be that the video card isn't compatible with
 > the system?   * What is the part number on the video card?  A The QuickSpecs for the 4/233 are located at the URL listed below: > http://h18002.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/SOC/QB002QPF.PDF  E They indicate that the ZLXp-E1 (part number PBXGA-AA) is the official # VMS-supported card for this system.   @ The E2 (PBXGA-BA) and E3 (PBAGA-CA) variants might work as well.  C In some instances, graphics cards based on the S3 chipset have been = found to work with VMS- while they won't suffice for high-end ' graphics, they'll do for most purposes.   E This, of course is highly dependent upon your system and VMS version.    One last suggestion:  @ There are many "Ask the Wizard" articles which concern graphics.- You might find some useful information there.   C http://h71000.www7.hp.com/cgi-bin/wizard_search.com?search=graphics    Hope this helps--    WWWebb   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:10:23 GMT 5 From: "Steve O'Hara" <sohara@pivotal-solutions.co.uk> - Subject: Re: AlphaServer 400 4/233 won't boot < Message-ID: <3efHc.13507$I%1.2113@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   Hi,   I I have had much the same problem with my 500au which I now seemed to have  solved..... L I found that booting from the CDROM would hang after the VMS banner came up.E After much swapping of hardware and re-trying with another machine, I I realised that the boot sequence seems to include some checking for a SCSI  disk. H If the disk is inaccessible in some way, then the boot hangs despite the  fact that the boot is from a CD.  I I had the luxury of psessing 2 machines one of which worked and the other % didn't so I could try this stuff out.    Steve     K "Z" <z@no.spam> wrote in message news:10eoj77pj097ca9@corp.supernews.com... > > I'm trying to boot an older Alpha Server, a Model 400 4/233. > A > The console comes up, but  >>> boot  hangs right after "jumping  > to bootstrap code."  > 5 > Ok, I thought, maybe the boot device (DKA0) is bad.  > A >  >>> boot dka500   (the CDROM) with the OpenVMS 7.1-2 CD in the @ > tray also hangs right after "jumping to bootstrap code."  I doA > see the CD light come on, so it _looks_ like it's accessing the  > drive. >  > But it just won't boot.  >  >  >  >  >>> show config  tells me:  >  > SRM Cnsole  : V7.0-9 > ARC Console : 4.58, > PALcode     : VMS PALcode V5.56-2  X1.46-2 > Serial ROM  : V4.6 > Diag ROM    : V1.7 >  > " > How can I diagnose this problem? >  > HELP!    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 09:12:17 GMT < From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann)3 Subject: Re: Alphastation 255 with "KEYBOARD ERROR" 0 Message-ID: <ccj35h$l1e$2@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  F In article <10epgcj5v7p1d1c@corp.supernews.com>, Z <z@no.spam> writes:B >Alphastation 225 ...  on boot it displays "KEYBOARD ERROR" on theB >console monitor and tells me that the serial port will be used as? >the console. (Different keyboards tried, none work - some just  >hang the system)  > A >But when I hook up a VT510 to COM 1, I can't get a response from 	 >the 255.   M You have to tell the firmware to use the serial console. But as your keyboard ) doesn't work you are not able to do this.   A >VT510 is set up as 9600, 8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit.  Is that A >correct?  I also tried using Hyperterm from a PC but also got no  >response from COM 1.  >  >Are those settings correct?  : The settings are correct but this doesn't help, see above.  L I had a very similar problem once with such an AlphaStation. It is caused byL a small exploding capacitor on the mainboard. It is located just between theI outlet of the keayboard and the mouse. Because of the explosion you get a F short-circuit there. Remove this capacitor or separate the two halves.O You may replace it (that is what I did) but I know of people who didn't do that * and whose station is working nevertheless.  B By the way: the original capacitor has 2.2 microFarad and 35 Volt.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:04:28 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>  Subject: Re: Blogging on VMS: Message-ID: <wDbHc.642$247.109@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   Alphaman wrote:   	 > Hi all,  > G > For those interested, I've managed to successfully install and run a  > > decent blogging package on OpenVMS.  I've got the following: > > >  - AlphaServer 400 4/233, 192 MB RAM, 3 GB disk, OVMS v7.3-1
 >  - SWS v2.0 
 >  - PHP v1.2 + >  - Pivot v1.14 (http://www.pivotlog.net/)  > G > and that's it.  Heck, the kit even comes in a ZIP file!  No TARs, no  E > db's, no makefiles, no porting -- it just runs.  Well, okay, minor  K > caveat -- I installed it on an ODS2 disk, so I had to go back and rename  C > a handful of PHP include file references that were of the format  K > "file.inc.php" to "file_inc.php".  They were extremely easy to find with  E > a Search [...]*.php ".inc.php" and very few locations needed to be  G > modified.  My suspicion is that this step won't be necessary with an   > ODS5 disk. > J > A couple other things, make sure that the <Directory> directive in your H > httpd.conf points to a location that does NOT have a $ in the disk or C > path (e.g., Disk$User0:[pivot] will generate a bunch of errors).  F > Instead, I created a Pivot_Root logical (/translation=concealed, of E > course); remember to put it in your SyLogicals.com so that it gets  K > defined before SWS & PHP get started.  I'm still tweaking it, and have a  E > couple items that aren't working (e.g., site stats errors off when  K > referencing a phpsniff() call), but I think it's a matter of finding the  J > right modules to be turned on in the php.ini file.  Also, I did have to J > enable the php_pcre.exe in that file, after I got a lot of preg_match() 	 > errors.  > K > Performance isn't anything to write home about, but then I am running on  9 > a dated system and haven't done a stitch of tuning yet.  > * > Hope someone else can benefit from this. > K > (Before you ask, no, I'm not going to publish my blog as proof -- you'll  J > just have to believe me that it works!  I'm using my blog as a personal 1 > diary and a family service, not a public blog.)  >  > Regards & enjoy, > Aaron     H There must be a few more changes that need to be made or there is still  a file problem...    First,
   CSWS 1.3   CSWS_PHP 1.2  8 Well, I am not sure what I did, but it is working now...  F http://www.firstdbasource.com/blog/index.php - these are entries that  were "published"  I I am using ODS-5 disks - unzip puts the filename as xxxx_inc.php when it  G should be xxxx.inc.php.  Trying to rename results in xxxx^.inc.php and  G Pivot can't find the file. Parse style is extended... I will see about  G reading the FAQ in the morning.... on how to get it to be xxxx.inc.php;    Michael Austin.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 10:21:33 -0700 , From: JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow)- Subject: Re: Datatrieve Help Creating Domains = Message-ID: <4b6ec350.0407080921.5792ee9d@posting.google.com>   d lsk55@hotmail.com (Scott) wrote in message news:<926edf3b.0407071439.61189330@posting.google.com>...# > In Datatreve enter the following:  > DEFINE RECORD MY-REC USING > 01  MY-RECORD.! >     03  MY-FIELD-1   PIC X(10). ! >     03  MY-FIELD-2   PIC 9(10).  > ; B > Once you've done that, it'll tell you the length of your record.# > Then enter the following command: 8 > DEFINE DOMAIN MY-FILE USING MY-REC ON MY_FILESPEC.DAT; ...    That might work on old VAXes.   Johnny, are you on VAX or Alpha?  ; On Alpha, you need to create separate files in a directory. ; They "must" (works for me) be named *_DOM.DTR and *_REC.DTR   F (1) create the record layout file first named   domainName_REC_REC.DTRC (note: the leading  domainName_REC  portion is what you use in item  (2) )  with contents such as    RECORD domainName_REC USING  01  MY-RECORD.     03  MY-FIELD-1   PIC X(10).      03  MY-FIELD-2   PIC 9(10).  ;     = (2) create a domain file in your Datatrieve directory named    domainName_DOM.DTRF with its contents naming the record layout file and your physical data file  ) DOMAIN domainName USING domainName_REC ON ! logicalNameDirectory:PAYROLL.DAT;     E Using Datatrieve on an AlphaServer is different than behavior on VAX. F It took me a while to figure that out after reading some documentation and trial-and-error.2 The _REC_REC is odd in the filespec; but it works.  B Jim, OpenVMS and Database Administrator, Data911, Alameda, CA, USA   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 10:29:59 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> - Subject: Re: Datatrieve Help Creating Domains ' Message-ID: <40ED8497.9000208@MMaz.com>    Jim Strehlow wrote:   e >lsk55@hotmail.com (Scott) wrote in message news:<926edf3b.0407071439.61189330@posting.google.com>...  >    > # >>In Datatreve enter the following:  >>DEFINE RECORD MY-REC USING >>01  MY-RECORD.! >>    03  MY-FIELD-1   PIC X(10). ! >>    03  MY-FIELD-2   PIC 9(10).  >>; B >>Once you've done that, it'll tell you the length of your record.# >>Then enter the following command: 8 >>DEFINE DOMAIN MY-FILE USING MY-REC ON MY_FILESPEC.DAT; >>     >> >..  >  >That might work on old VAXes.! >Johnny, are you on VAX or Alpha?  > < >On Alpha, you need to create separate files in a directory.< >They "must" (works for me) be named *_DOM.DTR and *_REC.DTR >  >    > H The VMS version shouldn't make any difference... I challenge you to try I the prior mentioned DEFINE, above, on your system and paste the results,   if should work just fine...      Barry    --    > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                            ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:57:58 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> - Subject: Re: diff between a process and batch : Message-ID: <GpcHc.650$X67.212@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   AMIT wrote:   	 > Hi all,  > I have a basic doubt here: > 2 > Are all batch jobs executed by VMS as a process?G > Thus every batch job in SHOW SYSTEM/BATCH is also a process (as a PID  > is shown). > D > So how do I find out the batch entry number for every batch job in > SHOW SYSTEM/BATCH?  # how about SHOW QUE/BY=EXEC/ALL/FULL     help show que to find out more..   > E > And vice-versa how do I find the PID for every batch job, given the  > entry number.  >  > Thanks > AS   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 08:59:31 GMT < From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann)/ Subject: Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege? 0 Message-ID: <ccj2dj$l1e$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  ` In article <40ECA0CF.64513700@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:I >If I had the problem, I would turn off disquotas on the system disk, put I >SYSTEM back to /DEFP=ALL and then try to find out what process filled up H >the system disk and what I can do to prevent it. Sounds like a run-away >to me.   M I know exactly which process causes the problem and why. But it is impossible J to tell exactly when it will occur. By the way, we have diskquotas enabledL on the system disk since years, no problem so far. In contrary, if a processN dies because of lack of diskquotas you notice it and you know that you have to take care about something.  C >I could send you some DCL code that you could massage to suit your F >needs. It pages me when freespace on a mounted volume changes by more@ >than x% (default = 10%) between samples (currently every hour). >  >D.J.D.   = Somehow we achieved this by having quotas on the system disk.    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 08:08:11 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) / Subject: Re: EXQUOTA SYSTEM's efault privilege? 3 Message-ID: <fY+v$StmEQ$I@eisner.encompasserve.org>   n In article <cch5nt$8q$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>, gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann) writes: > K > Not quite. To be more specific, the product in question is "Pathworks for O > Macintosh" or "MSA", a retired product from DEC. It is started via the system M > startup procedure and therefore its processes run under the SYSTEM account. N > The question is whether I do any harm to the OS if SYSTEM has no EXQUOTA per* > default but has to enable it if need be.  H    So was the file an MSA log, or a Mac user's data file?  I would neverH    place the latter on the system disk, and I would be really worried if    MSA had lots to log.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 06:33:45 -0700 2 From: williamwebb@openvms-rocks.com (William Webb)S Subject: Hello, I want to complain-- [You want to complain!] (Was:  Accuweather...) = Message-ID: <bf98c417.0407080533.36a0b34b@posting.google.com>   s spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) wrote in message news:<b096a4ee.0407060745.50f46955@posting.google.com>... Z > VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote in message news:<00A346AF.1FBD6499@SendSpamHere.ORG>...r > > In article <b096a4ee.0407051928.5e79ba07@posting.google.com>, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes:Z > > >Nic Clews <spamthis@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message news:<ccbdel$9sg$1@lore.csc.com>... > > >>{...snip...}* > > >> I have to agree with VAXman here... > > >  > > >It worked for me! > > - > > You're on a PeeCee running Weendoze then?  > @ > That's what they give me at work so that's what I have to use. > L > > >> WMV or other funny formats are platform specific, how many times has P > > >> Windows said "downloading a codec" etc. for something you've viewed? How > > > >> certain are you this isn't a "user is now viewing..." ? > > > K > > >I've viewed so few videos from the Net that this has never happened to J > > >me. I've had problems viewing videos, yes. But still this is great toI > > >see HP promoting VMS, even if it's not the best possible effort. Why I > > >don't you ask them to remove the video and destroy it? Would that be  > > >better? > > ! > > Who asked for that?  Typical.  > D > By harping on the format combined with zero acknowledgement of the+ > good side of this, it looks like you are.  > O > > >> Mpeg is a STANDARD, no extra codecs to download, it works. DVD, that is  P > > >> Mpeg, digital broadcast is Mpeg, when you say pictures you say JPEG, not ' > > >> some proprietary picture format.  > > >>  L > > >> Converters are available, but really, as the media player works with . > > >> MPG, that should be the starting point. > > >>  O > > >> The cynical in me interprets the "more expensive to produce an mpeg" as  O > > >> Microsoft undercut hands down everything else because it implies a user  K > > >> lock in, and the user has to buy an M$ product to "share and enjoy".  > > >>  P > > >> It is anti competitive practice, being endorsed by the produces of these P > > >> little videos, nice as they are, yes it mentions VMS, but "if you're not 2 > > >> using Windows, you're not going to see it". > > > I > > >But if you're using VMS you don't *need* to see it. Promoting VMS is I > > >not anti-competitive. I'm all for a format that works on everything, I > > >but I'm just glad to see hp put out something so positive about VMS.  > > K > > I'm using VMS and I do need to see it.  I need to be able to show it to L > > others as a way of proselytizing VMS.  I know too too many organizationsL > > that have gone from VMS to the dark side.  Thanks to Compaq who actually > C > OK, you have a point there. Still, I'd recommend saying "Great! A E > video promoting VMS. Can we have it in a better format?" If someone H > reacted to something you did the way you reacted to this, would you be+ > more encouraged to follow the suggestion?  > K > > told one that VMS was soon to be DOA and sold them several $100K+ worth K > > of some PeeCee HW and Weendoze when a single system upgrade of an Alpha K > > would have provided them with far more performance and little change at L > > all to their present infrastructure.  Did I mention that the third-partyM > > SW they were using was a no-fee upgrade on the Alpha but instead cost the L > > company nearly as much as the purchase of a new Alpha would have cost to4 > > purchase license for this new PeeCee "solution"? > A > Well, I never said it wouldn't be better to have it in a better F > format. I am simply saying we should be happy for the mere existenceH > of the video which can only improve the situation. Completely ignoringC > the bright side and going ballistic on the dark side won't do anye > good. That's all I'm saying. >  > > M > > It would be nice to see more of these "testimonial" videos from companiessM > > and organizations both big and small declaring their bet-the-business-on-AL > > VMS sentiments.  However, these "companies" don't go out looking for theL > > VMS ads/testimonials/etc., I have to take them to them and play them forL > > them.  Sorry but my PowerBook just doesn't play the Weendoze proprietaryK > > formats very well without some additional freeware I was directed to...bL > > and blow it up to the full 17" capacity of my PowerBook's screen and it  > > looks like SHIT! >  > So send them the transcript. >  > >  > > ; > > >And if you don't like it, you can write a TPU program!  > >  > > Huh? > D > I was addressing this to Nic Clews. This is just an odd joke aboutF > people always responding to my complaints about TPU by saying "Well,H > you can write a TPU program" whereas in EDT I'm already done. I alwaysH > get annoyed by this as if writing such a program were somehow trivial.G > I really don't want to spend a lot of time with my nose buried in TPUsE > manuals to program something that should be done right in the first F > place and shouldn't be so hard to fix. But that's another issue. YouE > can find many threads on this in cov. Just search for my name .and.s > TPU .and. EDT. >  > >  > > 9 > > >Would you prefer that there be no such video at all?- > >  > > Who said that? > B > By complaining about the video it sounds damn well like you are! >  > >  > > J > > >> If you like, it implicitly mentions Windows, the entire duration... > > >> > > > >> Mr. Picky?2 > > >0H > > >I don't understand this question. I don't believe I'm the one who's6 > > >being picky here. Or is this question for VAXMAN? > >  > > Who is Mr. Picky.  You are.o > G > You lost me on this one. My only pickiness is to use and promote VMS!r >  > Are you picking on me? :-) > $ > Relax man. We're on the same side! >  > >  f > > -- lF > > http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityG > >                             solutions that others only claim to be.k   Okay, everybody- enough.  8 We've got to all get on the same page about complaining.  D If HP does a bit of VMS marketing that appears to be targeted at theF current user base, some people invariably complain that it should have been directed at non-VMS users..  D If HP does a bit of VMS marketing that is in a format proprietary toD non-VMS systems [insert trademarked Redmond product name here], someF people invariably complain that it should have been a platform-neutral format.   @ If HP does a bit of VMS marketing that is in a platform-agnosticE format [PDFs come to mind here], some people invariably complain thatc( there's not a PDF viewer built into VMS.  ? Perhaps INTEREX should consider having an Instapoll about this.r  7 (dons NOMEX garb, ducks and heads for the closest exit)e   :^)    WWWebb   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:09:58 -0400( From: "Wayne" <bruzeks@atcomcastdot.net>5 Subject: Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk? 0 Message-ID: <a56dnZAdT7UWtnDdRVn-hg@comcast.com>  ? "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message'% news:40ECA297.6F3E2228@comcast.net...Q
 > > ---------b > > > $ set def [oracle9i] > > > $ sh def > > >   DISK02:[oracle9i]a > > > $ dira > > > Directory DSA22:[000000] >aF > You can specify a device (or logical) name in a SET DEFAULT command. > See the HELP for SET DEFAULT  G Right, but how / why does the system refer to the device differently atsL different times? Why sometimes DISK02 and other times DSA22:? Oracle supportL seems concerned that I don't have just *one* name for the disk. They say theK software gets confused, calling the disk something sometimes, and something=F else at other times.  I've always felt free to create as many logicals! pointing to something as I liked.3   Wayne    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:43:31 +0200A4 From: Per =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= <per@mimer.se>5 Subject: Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?0* Message-ID: <ccjitm$afn$1@green.tninet.se>   Wayne wrote:  A > "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message ' > news:40ECA297.6F3E2228@comcast.net...e >> > --------- >> > > $ set def [oracle9i]a >> > > $ sh defa >> > >   DISK02:[oracle9i] >> > > $ dir >> > > Directory DSA22:[000000]s >>G >> You can specify a device (or logical) name in a SET DEFAULT command.w >> See the HELP for SET DEFAULTs > I > Right, but how / why does the system refer to the device differently at-@ > different times? Why sometimes DISK02 and other times DSA22:?   H SET DEF accepts any syntactically valid specification. It does not checkJ that the directory exists. SHOW DEF merely reports it the way you have set it. That's why you can do:   $ set def foobar:[PER] $ sh def   FOOBAR:[PER]* %DCL-I-INVDEF, FOOBAR:[PER] does not exist $ DEFINE FOOBAR GERE_0 $ DIR  Directory GERE_0:[PER]   :    :    ...or...     $ set def GERE_0:<per.foobar>. $ sh def   GERE_0:<PER.FOOBAR>c1 %DCL-I-INVDEF, GERE_0:<PER.FOOBAR> does not existA $ dirFA %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening GERE_0:<PER.FOOBAR>*.*;* as input  -RMS-E-DNF, directory not foundh" -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file $ cre/dir <> $ diri! %DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files founds $ sh def   GERE_0:<PER.FOOBAR>i $V    B If you do SET DEF DISK02:[SOMEWHERE], you can change your "currentK directory" by redefining DISK02 (or if DISK02 is in the SYSTEM logical name * table, by someone else redefining DISK02).  J On the other hand, commands such as DIRECTORY reports the actual directoryK (or directories if you have several equivalence names for the logical name)  where files are found.     Regards 
 /Per Schrder  http://developer.mimer.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:56:44 GMT / From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks)o5 Subject: Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?i- Message-ID: <FTjOMhqMQUac@cuebid.zko.dec.com>l  #  <bruzeks@atcomcastdot.net> writes:sA > "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in messageV  G >> You can specify a device (or logical) name in a SET DEFAULT command.! >> See the HELP for SET DEFAULTs  I > Right, but how / why does the system refer to the device differently ateN > different times? Why sometimes DISK02 and other times DSA22:? Oracle supportN > seems concerned that I don't have just *one* name for the disk. They say theM > software gets confused, calling the disk something sometimes, and something H > else at other times.  I've always felt free to create as many logicals# > pointing to something as I liked.m  N Hey, you can create as many logicals as you want, but it's your responsibilityO to keep 'em all straight, making sure there are no circular definitions, etc...h  H Without going back and rereading this thread from the beginning, I thinkG that you need to review your naming scheme and get rid of a fair amountnJ of excess cruft -- why do you have a colon in the logical name definition?  J The device name is DSA22; there may be components that refer to the deviceN by its volume name, through the logical name associated with the volume (which? is created at mount time and is of the form DISK$<volumename>).u  H Take a look at HELP MOUNT.  You'll see that the last parameter (which isN optional) allows you to define a logical name pointing to the physical device.  K If possible, I'd try to use only those names created by MOUNT, and not some ! other thought-to-be-needed names.p   -- g  M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.coma   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:47:16 GMTy< From: "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp>5 Subject: Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk?l2 Message-ID: <80eHc.5521$eZ2.1488@news.cpqcorp.net>   Wayne wrote: > I > Right, but how / why does the system refer to the device differently atsN > different times? Why sometimes DISK02 and other times DSA22:? Oracle supportN > seems concerned that I don't have just *one* name for the disk. They say theM > software gets confused, calling the disk something sometimes, and somethingyH > else at other times.  I've always felt free to create as many logicals# > pointing to something as I liked.t  J There are two types of logical names that reference disks and directories.  H The normal type are simple alias that can be used for replacing part or  all of a file specifications.    Example:   $ show log sys$login;     "SYS$LOGIN" = "USER_ROOT:[MALMBERG]" (LNM$JOB_81737400)a   Directory USER_ROOT:[MALMBERG]  F LOGIN.COM;7                2  29-DEC-2000 19:50:11.38  (RWED,RWED,RE,)     And then you can also do:    $ define foo user_root:s $  $ dir foo:[malmberg]login.com    Directory USER_ROOT:[MALMBERG]  F LOGIN.COM;7                2  29-DEC-2000 19:50:11.38  (RWED,RWED,RE,)   $ set def foo:[malmberg]
 $ show def    FOO:[MALMBERG]  $ dir login.com    Directory USER_ROOT:[MALMBERG]  F LOGIN.COM;7                2  29-DEC-2000 19:50:11.38  (RWED,RWED,RE,)    D Note that in these cases, the logical names SYS$LOGIN: and FOO: are I translated in the display of files/directories that are looked up by the 1 file system.    H Now to your question about the disk names, that is a different class of E logical names.  Those have the "Concealed" attribute.  The concealed rE attribute tells the file system not to report the translation of the  
 logical name.d  H In most cases, an application will treat a concealed logical name as if  it were a unique disk name.b   $ show log user_root/fullaA     "USER_ROOT" [exec] = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[USER_ROOT.]" [concealed]r (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)  H By doing this, I can make every major application think it has it's own G disk, and I can move the application from one physical disk to another lI with out having to reconfigure it.  The directory specification with the ,- trailing dot, makes it a rooted logical name.t  H This way I can have systems with different number of physical disks all @ appear to have the same logical disk names for each application.   $ show log *_rootp  +    "CMS_ROOT" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[CMS_ROOT.]"y8    "DOWNLOAD_ROOT" = "DISK$ANHKMORPOCK:[DOWNLOAD_ROOT.]"+    "LIB_ROOT" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[LIB_ROOT.]" 2    "LINUX_ROOT" = "DISK$ANHKMORPOCK:[LINUX_ROOT.]"6    "PROJECT_ROOT" = "DISK$ANHKMORPOCK:[PROJECT_ROOT.]"-    "USER_ROOT" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[USER_ROOT.]"l  E Things that must work on the real disk, will show the true disk name:-   $ show dev user_root  E Device          Device       Error    Volume          Free  Trans Mnt-E   Name           Status       Count     Label        Blocks Count CntsD DSKWLD$DKA0:    Mounted          1  OPAL_V73-2      528812   587   1  H The mount command always assigns at least one concealed logical name to   a disk, and optionally a second.   $ show log/full disk$opal_v73-2.B     "DISK$OPAL_V73-2" [exec] = "DSKWLD$DKA0:" [concealed,terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)  > And the operating system also assigns concealed logical names.   $ show log sys$sysdevice/fulln@     "SYS$SYSDEVICE" [exec] = "DSKWLD$DKA0:" [concealed,terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)  F As I do not use Oracle, I do not know what their requirements are for I logical names.  Most applications that need disk names usually will work u, with concealed rooted logical names instead.  H Normal logical names can not always be substituted for concealed rooted  logical names.   -John"! malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hpk Personal Opinion Onlyu   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 08:26:26 -07000. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)5 Subject: Re: How does VMS decide what to call a disk? = Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0407080726.55ff64a3@posting.google.com>   ` "Wayne" <bruzeks@atcomcastdot.net> wrote in message news:<ir-dnbVzeuElFHHdRVn-hA@comcast.com>...! > 'Splain something to me please?t > 1 > Here's where I mount a shadow set at boot time:e > ) > $ sea sys$startup:mount_disks.com dsa22wH > $ MOUNT/SYS/NOASS DSA22:/SHADOW=($1$DGA22:,$1$DGA46:)  DSA22    DSA22:  C Why define the device name to be its own logical name, so to speak?v  G > Here's the definition of some logicals that point to that shadow set:l [...]h  > $ assi/sys/exec dsa22: disk02:  > $ assi/sys/exec dsa22: disk22: > # > Here's a display of the logicals:r >  > $ sh log disk02 + >    "DISK02" = "DSA22:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)c* > 1  "DSA22" = "DSA22:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > $ sh log dsa22*  [...]  > (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) >  >   "DSA22" = "DSA22:" [...]  > And a display of the device: >  > $ sh dev dsa22:- > N > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans > MntuN >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count > Cnt4N > DSA22:                  Mounted              0  DSA22         33634335     2 > 40D > $1$DGA22:       (LUCY)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA22:)D > $1$DGA46:       (LUCY)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA22:) >  > $ sh dev disk02: > N > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans > Mnt N >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count > Cnt N > DSA22:                  Mounted              0  DSA22         33634335     2 > 4tD > $1$DGA22:       (LUCY)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA22:)D > $1$DGA46:       (LUCY)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA22:) > * > Now I do a show def, and it says DISK02: >  > $ set def [oracle9i]
 > $ sh def >   DISK02:[oracle9i]  [...] (set def [-] cut)  > $ dir  >  > Directory DSA22:[000000] > J > 000000.DIR;1        9202KIT.DIR;1       BACKUP.SYS;1        BADBLK.SYS;1 >                    etc.e > Total of 14 files. >  > Why is that? >  > TIA, >  > WayneI  D The default consists of a device and a directory. The device name is? stored in the logical name SYS$DISK (which allows RMS access to B search-list elements when you SET DEFAULT to a search-list logicalF name) and (IIRC) the directory-spec is stored in P1 space. SET DEFAULT@ simply redefines SYS$DISK to be the device specified in your SETF DEFAULT command and updates the directory-spec in memory. SHOW DEFAULTD simply translates SYS$DISK (once) and appends the current directory.  C If you specify a logical name instead of a disk name for the deviceoA portion, SET DEFAULT simply redefines SYS$DISK to be that logicali@ name. However, if the logical name is iterative, things are moreE complicated and SET DEFAULT sometimes gets it wrong, aside from other B "interesting" behavior. (Of course my SET DEFAULT program, TO.COM,? *does* handle iterative logical names correctly [shameless plugr? alert!]). [AFAIK, SET DEFAULT still has problems with iterativeUC logical names at least as recently as VMS v7.2. There was a release F note in the V5 or V6 days, IIRC, saying its bugs would be addressed at/ a future date. I haven't heard anything since.]m  D SHOW DEVICES and DIRECTORY (and most other commands, I believe) willE display the translation of the logical name *unless* the logical namelB was defined with the concealed attribute. These and other commands: *do* perform iterative logical name translation correctly.  C Note that the concealed attribute really applies to the equivalenceaB name. This means that you can define a logical name to be a search< list with some elements being concealed and others not! Like SYS$SYSROOT for example.  F Bottom line: If you want to see the logical name instead of the deviceF name in command output, use /TRANSLATION_ATTRIBUTES=CONCEALED when you define the logical name.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:59:34 +0200r From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>A Subject: Re: How to influence file extend size of C stream files?i2 Message-ID: <ccjuhv$59e$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Hallo Hein,o  L I have tried to look at the FAB and IFAB values, however they don't change. O Gerard assumes it is the XQP that is doing tha actual extent setting. He tried sO it with a C program, and although tha FAB and IFAB DEQ values stay 0, the file /P is extended with the RMS_EXTEND values. The extends are not contiguous it seems.  K I did know that the file would be truncated to its true size after closing.2  N I'm running VMS 7.3-2, and the C library (DECC$SHR_EV56.EXE) is also V. 7.3-2.  H Geard and me are trying some more options (incl. hacking the image :-) )  K I suppose there is no real buffersize with these files, since RMS is using IP blockmode to access these C files. Wouldn't it be nice if all operating systems  had real filesystems ???  & Tot ziens bij een volgende VMS meeting   Dirk     Hein RMS van den Heuvel wrote:B > Hi Dirk, what makes you conclude that using SET RMS/SYS/EXT (or M > corresponding SYSGEN PARAM) has no effect? The file will likely be truncateeL > on close. So as John wrote, there will be no permanent effect on the file,L > just runtime. Looks like you have a handle on it though, because you write > that SET FILE/EXT does work.B > And I don't think there is a logical (like there is for LRL with > DECC$DEFAULT_LRL). > N > If you do not specify a value or specify the value 0 when you create a file,7 > RMS uses the default specified by the DCL command SEThN > RMS_DEFAULT/EXTEND_QUANTITY. If this value is 0, RMS uses the system defaultJ > extension quantity specified by the system parameter RMS_EXTEND_SIZE. IfG > this value is 0, RMS computes the default value. RMS computes this aseH > 2*buffersize, but it must at least get a cluster of course. THe deviceM > default is the last to be used. Of course you are at the merci of the C RTL. > here.cL > Speaking of which... what version of VMS / C are you using? I believe thatG > only around V7.0 the C RTL learned to ask the systems for certain RMS-2 > defaults instead of filling in its own defaults. > K > If you can, I would recommend using ANA/SYS while the program is running.AN > Then use SHOW PROC/RMS=FAB (or IFAB) to figure out whether (and which) value > was provided in FAB$W_DEQ.I > You may want to set the system and process default to well recognizable ( > values before testing (456 and 789 :-) > J > Something that also can surprise RMS programmers, when using the C creatL > function is that by default, the new file inherits certain attributes fromK > the existing version of the file unless those attributes are specified in29 > the creat call. The following attributes are inherited:s! >   a.. Record format (fab$b_rfm) ' >   b.. Maximum record size (fab$w_mrs)5$ >   c.. Carriage control (fab$b_rat) >   d.. File protection + > So it does not look like it applies here.a >  > Met vriendelijke groetjes, > Hein.  >  > - > "Dirk Munk" <munk@home.nl> wrote in messagec. > news:ccdepp$boo$1@news5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl... > K >>I'm trying to find a way to influence the default file extend quantity on C >>Stream_lf files created by C programs. This is a part of the file  >  > attributes ofr >  >>such a file: >>L >>File attributes:    Allocation: 339264, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0, >  > No >  >>version limit E >>Record format:      Stream_LF, maximum 0 bytes, longest 32767 bytes  >>L >>As you can see the extend size is 0. I guess this file will be extended by >  > onec > I >>cluster at the time when it has to grow. When I change the extend size,n > 
 > the file > D >>will be extended by the new size. However every time a new file is > 
 > created, itr > 7 >>will be created (and filled) with a extend size of 0.e >>F >>It seems that setting the RMS_EXTEND_SIZE parameter in sysgen has no > 	 > effect.- > L >>Is there a logical I can set to influence this behavior? Making changes in >  > thee > % >>source is not an option I'm afraid.g >> >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:09:51 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com>lP Subject: Re: HP beats IBM in new cluster Total Cost of Ownership comparisonstudy0 Message-ID: <ccj6hf$99s$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Fred Kleinsorge wrote:  L > Not my job Beavis.  Someone with a lot more patience and desire can googleM > all the misinformation and ducking out of real questions you've done in thefG > past.  I simply don't have either.  I've got code to write, things tot > design... as opposed to you. >   ? Fred you will always have something better to do than providingt= collateral to support your points, mainly because as you knowT1 perfectly well it would be a fruitless excercise.[  @ Code cutting, polishing your BMW will always be a better option.  = And I also have to thank you because in responding in the way = you have you have proved my point to the previous poster in aD& far better way than I could have done.  M > In the end, it looks like I'll watch you fade away as the SUN sets (perhapskN > it will become a wholly owned part of Fujitsu).  It's just a matter of time.K > You can't keep bleeding red ink forever, and becomming an AMD clone makery& > isn't going to revive your fortunes. >   @ Umm correct me if I am wrong but Intel is designing Itanium now,= doesn't that put HP in exactly the same category is you would  like to put Sun into.n  @ HP is an Itanium clone maker and of course an AMD clone maker as well.o   Regards  Andrew Harrisonp   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 08:14:29 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)eP Subject: Re: HP beats IBM in new cluster Total Cost of Ownership comparisonstudy3 Message-ID: <1BDbwBmhs3ur@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <Guf95N5e0c25@eisner.encompasserve.org>, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes:b > P > Sun Microsystems' arch-nemesis analyst Steven Milunovich issued a surprisinglyO > positive note for the company today, saying fourth quarter revenue appears to $ > be coming in higher than expected.  D    Gee, sounds just like DEC trying to sell PCs.  Loosing less money    than expected.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:03:13 +0100n9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com>tF Subject: Re: Intel Itanium's very survival in doubt - inquirer article0 Message-ID: <ccj651$97e$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Rick Jones wrote: @ >>As I said in the absence of any information about the relativeA >>time spent by the bind workload in the kernel and in user spaceh >>your data is meaningless.o >  > A > Since the performance of an emulated application depends on the-G > user/kernel split no single benchmark is going to completely describe.F > the performance of emulated applications. So, there can be no singleB > figure describing emulated x86 performance because the differentG > applications will spend different lengths of time emulated in the appo > versus native in the kernel. > E > I'll agree with that.  I am content to have you allude to it first.  > D > I do not agree that the data is _meaningless_.  At the very least,D > those with some passing familiarity with BIND named will have some? > idea of the user/kernel splits, and those who know that theirSG > application is somewhat like one of the specified BIND named versionso? > will have an idea of how their app might run under emulation.p >   = Of course but thats narrows the applicability of the data youO: have provided to a small subset of what people do on their: systems. It also assumes a greater level of knowledge both: about bind and about the profile of their application than most customers have.  9 Regretably all the emulation performance data I have seen1; provided by HP falls into the bind category, workloads that ; are predominantly kernel based where the kernel is a nativeo
 IA64 port.   Regardsi Andrew Harrisong   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 09:39:15 -0700N& From: twnews@kittles.com (Thomas Wirt)H Subject: Is anyone interested in an HP World 2004 comp.os.vms (COV) BOF?= Message-ID: <b3531425.0407080839.6ded15eb@posting.google.com>u  F Is anyone interested in a BOF for comp.os.vms at this years HP World? D The last time we had one it was kind of nice to put faces to names. A If there is interest, then I will pursue scheduling one.  If not,- that's fine.   Thanks,4   Thomas Wirt  Systems Managere Kittle's Home Furnishings  Indianapolis, IN   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:55:17 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>)A Subject: Re: OpenVMS ssh login problem with pre-expired passwords.: Message-ID: <9ncHc.649$X67.527@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   Jim Jennis wrote:U  	 > Hi All,Y > N > I am having a problem using ssh eak logging into accounts where the passwordL > is expired or pre-expired. I am running OpenVMS 7.3-1 with HP/Compaq TCPIPE > services for OpenVMS 5.3- installed and the ssh eak version 503-15.  > L > When a password is expired (or pre-expired) on an account, you will get anH > authentication failure, but the opportunity to run DCL SET PASSWORD toL > change your password is never passed to the ssh client. If you connect via > telnet, everything is fine.  > : > The newer TCPIP services 5.4 SSH manual says you can set  > AllowVmsLoginWithExpiredPw yes > N > To change this behavior. I tried this, but it does not seem to work with theN > EAK. Has anyone been able to solve this problem? (Upgrading to OpenVMS 7.3-28 > and TCPIP services 5.4 is NOT an option at this point) >  > TIA for any help/advice! > 
 > Regards, >  > Jim  > # > Jim Jennis, Integration Architect- > WRQ Consulting Services, Inc.u > 124 Old Forest Circlem > Winchester, VA. 22602 USA. >  > Phone: +1-540-723-0157 > FAX: +1-206-272-1394 > Email:jimj@wrq.com >       jhjennis@shentel.net > WEB: http://www.wrq.com/ > 0 > WRQ - Access. Integrate. Transform Since 19815 > ---------------------------------------------------  >  >   H For some reason the SSH service does not know how to deal with anything E other than a non-expired, working u/p.  I have had this problem many  I times and it requires someone log into the system and modify the account oC to nopwdexp, then log in and change your password (or not :) which DF defeats the purpose of expiring passwords. There is no "your password F will expire in n-days. Do you want to change it now?".   This is true  for both Multinet and TCPIP.   Michael Austin.r   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:08:25 -0400) From: "Scott Greig" <jsgreig@geminaq.com>c1 Subject: Porting a compiler from Alpha to Itaniuma; Message-ID: <xwcHc.33849$WM5.1557380@news20.bellglobal.com>I  7 My product consists of a compiler and run-time library. . It was ported from Vax to Alpha some time ago.  7 I have read that HP has chosen to use industry standardr. ELF (Executable and Linkable Format) and DWARF2 (Debugging and traceback information format) files  as output for Itanium compilers.  5 When I first ported from Vax to Alpha I was told thats2 the GEM back-end was an internal only product, and# could not be released to resellers.i  7 I don't really want to learn the intricacies of the new - file formats, and was wondering - can the GEM 1 back-end (which, presumably, generates files witha+ both ELF and DWARF) be released to externale6 software developers/resellers?  It really should speed up the porting process.l   Cheers Scottr   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:04:48 GMTe& From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>5 Subject: Re: Porting a compiler from Alpha to Itaniume2 Message-ID: <AgeHc.5525$F_2.3698@news.cpqcorp.net>   Scott Greig wrote:9 > My product consists of a compiler and run-time library.00 > It was ported from Vax to Alpha some time ago. > 9 > I have read that HP has chosen to use industry standard-0 > ELF (Executable and Linkable Format) and DWARF4 > (Debugging and traceback information format) files" > as output for Itanium compilers. > 7 > When I first ported from Vax to Alpha I was told thatg4 > the GEM back-end was an internal only product, and% > could not be released to resellers.s > 9 > I don't really want to learn the intricacies of the newh/ > file formats, and was wondering - can the GEMt3 > back-end (which, presumably, generates files witht- > both ELF and DWARF) be released to externalr8 > software developers/resellers?  It really should speed > up the porting process.y >  > Cheers > ScottE >  >   F It is very unlikely that we would ever release GEM to external users. : We don't have the resources to support a larger user base.  C The GEM backend isn't the magic bullet that you think it might be. fG While you'd get support for object, debug, listing, etc. generation as uG well as optimization, you have to change your compiler to generate the )C GEM intermediate language, the GEM symbol table, provide literally  E dozens of callback routines that GEM will utilize.  And depending on gD your language's needs, you might find that the GEM interfaces don't G provide you with the features you need to implement your language.  We eI don't have the resources to answer your questions, extend GEM if needed, .; or even expose ourselves to a larger volume of bug reports..  F Have you considered generating Itanium assembly output?  That way you F could utilize the Itanium assembler to generate the ELF objects.  You < would still have to manually create whatever DWARF you need.     --   John Reagank/ HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project LeaderW Hewlett-Packard Companyt   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:14:42 +0200o> From: Alain Chappuis <Alain.Chappuis@medecine.unige.ch.nospam>9 Subject: Re: Question about AS 800 and display resolutioni7 Message-ID: <40ED3AB2.8050101@medecine.unige.ch.nospam>    Salut Hans,v  C Thank you for your answer, I tested your assistance, but nothing ast hanged!e  " My display screen stay at 800X600.- The logfile decw$server_0_error.log known as:r VgaMapScreen: DVI info -    Width = 1024, Height = 768e    ....l  # In my decw$private_server_setup.com    I have:h"   $ decw$server_page_file== 160000    $ decw$xsize_in_pixels == 1280    $ decw$ysize_in_pixels == 10248   $ define/exec/system/nolog decw$server_pixel_depth  248   $ define/exec/system/nolog decw$server_refresh_rate 75  E I have an other graphic card PCI S3 ViRGE 8 Mgb, can I the plugged ita5 in the server? and how to configure it in the system?u   Sorry for my second tentative! Thank in advance.t AC -- r@   Alain Chappuis    (Remove NO.SPAM to answer me in my address!)@   Universit de Genve /Facult de Mdecine/Service Informatique1   http://www.sifm.unige.ch/presentation/alain.phpi   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 08:04:08 -0500o; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)s8 Subject: Re: question on terminal settings for an AS12003 Message-ID: <tUUiVqtVGwlY@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Y In article <2l2thuF83ioqU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> writes:   - > I mean, cardpunches didn't have screen mode  > either and > that worked too, right?t  F    Never had a cardpunch with lower case.  Prevented eunichs, C, other    infestations.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 12:49:02 +0100g0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> Subject: raid 210/swxcr etc 4 Message-ID: <ccjcbe$err$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>   Anyone remember this ?G We've a working array, but I'd like to configure some more disks in it.zF I've got VMS 7.3, & swxcrmgr, but no decwindows on the machine (can't G remember if there ever was, but the 2gb system disk is a bit full, and n@ it's not there now). swxcrmgr won't run: %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error  activating image DECW$XLIBSHR.  K I've vague memories of a pc-based management tool, but I can't find a copy. G I've also vague memories of a VMS "set host/dup" command, but that may a! have been for the older DSSI bus.   & I've got assorted floppies, including:7 AK-Q6TFE-CA Standalone RAID array software v3.2 for AXPeC AK-QGTMC-CA RAID array 200 software 2.2 for VMS (which won't read).e  I Can anyone tell me what I need to view the physical disks, and configure e another please ?I Ideally without having to install decwindows on the full-ish system disk.a   Thanks,a Chris    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 04 07:00:18 PSTe From: mckinneyj@cpva.saic.com  Subject: Re: raid 210/swxcr etct( Message-ID: <TJNaTjDCYaPJ@cpva.saic.com>  4 In article <ccjcbe$err$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,3  Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes:m > Anyone remember this ?I > We've a working array, but I'd like to configure some more disks in it.sH > I've got VMS 7.3, & swxcrmgr, but no decwindows on the machine (can't I > remember if there ever was, but the 2gb system disk is a bit full, and dB > it's not there now). swxcrmgr won't run: %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error   > activating image DECW$XLIBSHR. > M > I've vague memories of a pc-based management tool, but I can't find a copy.hI > I've also vague memories of a VMS "set host/dup" command, but that may o# > have been for the older DSSI bus.u > ( > I've got assorted floppies, including:9 > AK-Q6TFE-CA Standalone RAID array software v3.2 for AXPBE > AK-QGTMC-CA RAID array 200 software 2.2 for VMS (which won't read).s > K > Can anyone tell me what I need to view the physical disks, and configure m > another please ?K > Ideally without having to install decwindows on the full-ish system disk.e > 	 > Thanks,p > Chris   J That Standalone RAID floppy may have the SRLMGR executable on it. It's theH serial line equivalent of SWXCRMGR and must be run from the console with. VMS down. A google search for SRLMGR may help.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:09:27 -0400o* From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com> Subject: Re: raid 210/swxcr etcd: Message-ID: <DsdHc.14010$jJ3.11562@bignews5.bellsouth.net>   mckinneyj@cpva.saic.com wrote: > L > That Standalone RAID floppy may have the SRLMGR executable on it. It's theJ > serial line equivalent of SWXCRMGR and must be run from the console with0 > VMS down. A google search for SRLMGR may help.  K I had to tangle with this a few years ago.... the upgraded standalone raid oL utilities disk was downloadable from Compaq's web site at the time, and the K program names had changed a bit.  There was still a serial line version of yL the SWXCR manager, but it was no longernamed SRLMGR.EXE.  It still required L that the ARC console be used in place of the SRM console, and both consoles M can be invoked over the serial port on an Alpha system.  I think the updated  J software was named something like RAID Array 210 Standalone Configuration J Utility, with program names something like RACFG.EXE and RASRL.EXE.  It's L been 3 years since I did this and the memory is dim, so the names might not B be correct and I don't have the files readily accessible to verify  L Please note that you cannot dynamically expand an existing drive group on a F SWXCR RAID controller.  You can only add new groups at the end of the G alpabetic list of groups, and existing drive groups must be completely sK utilized by logical drives before newly added groups can be carved up into t logical drives.e     -- l Chuck Choppl  8 ChuckChopp (at) rtfmcsi (dot) com http://www.rtfmcsi.com  @ RTFM Consulting Services Inc.     864 801 2795 voice & voicemail2 103 Autumn Hill Road              864 801 2774 fax Greer, SC  29651  , Do not send me unsolicited commercial email.   ------------------------------  " Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:36:40 GMT' From: Rick Dyson <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu>- Subject: Re: raid 210/swxcr etc2( Message-ID: <40ED8628.6090404@uiowa.edu>  E I have copies of those floppies.  The last versions I believe and the F Firmware updates for the 210 (HSZ20) too.  Do you know your F/W level?  F This is the internal PCI or EISA card, right?  When VMS boots, it willH announce the F/W level and whether any drives are degraged, failed, etc.  N The only way that I know to configure the internal RAID controllers (210, 230,H 230+, etc) was via the command line, ARC/SRM interface.  There were some? things you can do with the DECW app, but not the real low ones.r  L If you still need the stuff, I can try to get it to you.  I know some of theG web URLs to DEC/Compaq were no longer available, but someone found some*< cached versions of links on Google that were still readable.  O All the details and files are at home right now, so I can't give you specifics.wF I have an old 210 in my home system there and a 230+ and a 210 at some@ customers sites.  Contact me if you are interested in the files.   Regards, Rick   Chuck Chopp wrote:  > mckinneyj@cpva.saic.com wrote: >  >>J >> That Standalone RAID floppy may have the SRLMGR executable on it. It's  >> theK >> serial line equivalent of SWXCRMGR and must be run from the console withe1 >> VMS down. A google search for SRLMGR may help.a >  > H > I had to tangle with this a few years ago.... the upgraded standalone K > raid utilities disk was downloadable from Compaq's web site at the time, YJ > and the program names had changed a bit.  There was still a serial line J > version of the SWXCR manager, but it was no longernamed SRLMGR.EXE.  It K > still required that the ARC console be used in place of the SRM console, tD > and both consoles can be invoked over the serial port on an Alpha F > system.  I think the updated software was named something like RAID K > Array 210 Standalone Configuration Utility, with program names something [H > like RACFG.EXE and RASRL.EXE.  It's been 3 years since I did this and H > the memory is dim, so the names might not be correct and I don't have ( > the files readily accessible to verify > I > Please note that you cannot dynamically expand an existing drive group  I > on a SWXCR RAID controller.  You can only add new groups at the end of  B > the alpabetic list of groups, and existing drive groups must be I > completely utilized by logical drives before newly added groups can be f  > carved up into logical drives. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 10:54:51 -0400e* From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com>& Subject: Re: Reading from a LAT device: Message-ID: <WedHc.34028$w56.21274@bignews1.bellsouth.net>   briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:o   > I > Actually, EBCDIC and ASCII is irrelevant here.  What matters is whether C > you dump the bits out of the Ethernet side of the terminal serverr > or the serial side.- > D > On the Ethernet side, big bits come in first.  On the serial side, > little bits go out first.r > G > Fortunately, DEC terminal servers are able to use parallel processingFE > hardware to apply a fixed permutation, thus optimizing this sortingsB > process from the theoretical minimum of O(8 log 8) to O(1), thusB > achieving a 24 to one speed-up in terminal server processing and: > eliminating the need for cumbersome legacy bit calipers. > J > A second crucial technological innovation in more recent terminal serverJ > hardware is the use of Thiotimoline (1) "cut-through" switching elementsI > that allow the little bit to come out the serial side while the big biteG > is still coming in the Ethernet side, thus providing dramatic latencyl > improvements.. > E > (1) Asimov: The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline  >  > 	John Briggs  J You're correct that the rate of flow of the data is a major factor in how L quickly toxic [and possiblity lethal] amounts of ASCII or EBCDIC data maybe K dumped onto the floor.  The latest model networking equipment is currently  E using round electrons and a special graphite electron lubricant that nH significantly increases the data rates in otherwise normal CAT5 wiring. I These improvements are made over the previously used oval and even older eK square electrons that were lubricated with standard 90 weight axle greasse.   J The biggest concern is what happens when these newer round electrons bump M into the older polygonal electrons used in "legacy" portions of the network; lM there's a fear that data might fall off them and be lost.  Perhaps switching sK the electron lubricant will help; I've heard that graphite lubricants work  C well with Gallium Arsenide based semiconductors, but that silicone  J lubricants work better with the Indium Phosphide components being used in  the newer network equipment.     -- 1 Chuck Chopp    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 12:28:49 -0400e# From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com>e& Subject: Re: Reading from a LAT device+ Message-ID: <40ED7641.ACA55749@adldata.com>w   Chuck Chopp wrote: > ! > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:  > K > > I'd be wary of $ COPY SYS$LOGIN:ONEBYTE.TXT LTA666: on a regular basis.eM > > If the serial device is not accepting input and supports flow control youoG > > could jam up the port.  If the device drops input on the floor, youy
 > > are safe.e > K > Are you kidding?  I don't know how many times I've seen people do this...nL > leave an RS232 port unterminated or with a cable attached at only one end.J > When the terminal server port drops the input from the LTA device on theL > floor, you're going to have a puddle of bits all over the place and peopleN > will get ASCII poisoning if they're not properly protected from that.  It isF > even worse if you leave a bisync connection open like that... EBCDICL > poisoning is significantly worse than ASCII poisoning, along the lines of," > say, mercury vs. lead poisoning. >  > -- > ChuckS  G It may be an improperly tightened connection. We had that problem once  G with an as400 twinax cable. The connectors were not fastened completelyGI leaving a microscopic gap between the two connector parts. The zero bits  D got thorough ok but the top hook of the 1 bits got caught in the gap causing a serious data jam.   E The same thing could have happened with an improperly fastened rs232 sB connector. If any of the the 9 or more pins of the D connector areE not properly joined, the resulting jam from stuck "1" bits can cause hC a total througput stoppage, or data errors as the bits get through  E the good connected pins while the badly connected pin gets held back  F and may even spill back into the data source possibly causing serious  hardware damage.   sol    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 07:24:28 -0700Y$ From: gspamtackett@yahoo.com (Galen)- Subject: Re: Split I/Os to contiguous file???v= Message-ID: <bdc65a53.0407080624.59efe859@posting.google.com>o   Milan,  F Unfortunately, site security prevents me from providing a copy. If youD can get ahold of the "official" version it would be easy to describeF my relatively small changes to you by e-mail (subject to typing errors :-)   F We got our copy by e-mail from an HP OpenVMS Ambassador who works withF us. I don't know if it's even available from CSC, but it wouldn't hurtD to ask. If not, perhaps you have some other VMS technical contact at HP who could obtain it for you?[   Hope this is some help...    GalenN  d Milan Jercic <milan.jercicNOS@PAMaccess.si> wrote in message news:<40ECA442.6050800@PAMaccess.si>... > ? > Is IOHAMMER freely available or can be obtained only via CSC?i > O > Can you send me your customized version? I'm curious what numbers will I get EQ > from our configuration: ES40 4x 800Mhz, 4 GB RAM, HSG80 (1x FC, 6 x SCSI), 6 x a# > HP ~145 GB 10Krpm, spread evenly.D >  > TIA, > 
 >      J.M   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Jul 2004 16:22:04 GMTs# From: ucaspal@ucl.ac.uk (Paul Lamb)t= Subject: Transferring a VMS file system onto a Unix-based SANa+ Message-ID: <ccjsbc$2lfu$1@uns-a.ucl.ac.uk>W Keywords: vms openvms tcpip nfsL  H We have a fairly old VMS system (a Digital Ultimate Workstation 533au2) F which remains useful but whose maintenance costs are becoming a worry.  A One suggestion is to transfer all its files (except those on the  D system disk) to a Linux-based Storage Area Network then mount using  TCPIP MOUNT/ADF=CREATE.h  % Have many people tried this approach?i  F Has anyone experienced file corruption (particularly with mail files)?  B Would you advise backing up from VMS or relying on the SAN backup?    Any advice would be appreciated.  	 Paul Lambi    Mullard Space Science Laboratory University College London4   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:48:08 GMT:5 From: brad@rabbit.dnsalias.org (Bradford J. Hamilton)-A Subject: Re: Transferring a VMS file system onto a Unix-based SANb- Message-ID: <bVeHc.44638$%_6.12661@attbi_s01><  Q In article <ccjsbc$2lfu$1@uns-a.ucl.ac.uk>, ucaspal@ucl.ac.uk (Paul Lamb) writes:eI !We have a fairly old VMS system (a Digital Ultimate Workstation 533au2) _G !which remains useful but whose maintenance costs are becoming a worry.  !AB !One suggestion is to transfer all its files (except those on the E !system disk) to a Linux-based Storage Area Network then mount using   !TCPIP MOUNT/ADF=CREATE. ! & !Have many people tried this approach? !sG !Has anyone experienced file corruption (particularly with mail files)?  !lC !Would you advise backing up from VMS or relying on the SAN backup?"  L I have done VMS backups to (and restores from) a NAS device (SnapServer).  IN have had no problems restoring files backed up in this manner.  Of course, oneN cannot restore the OS using this method.  I still use a "local" tape drive for backing up the system disk.N   ! ! !Any advice would be appreciated.u ! 
 !Paul Lamb ! ! !Mullard Space Science Laboratory  !University College London !   J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own"MK bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'  0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:34:57 GMT ) From: "Rick Barry" <richard.barry@hp.com>:! Subject: Re: XBitHack in SWS 2.0? 2 Message-ID: <54cHc.5505$NN2.3750@news.cpqcorp.net>  L Not new, it's been this way since CSWS 1.2. The source code has the XbitHack feature disabled.e  
 Rick Barry" Secure Web Server Development Team OpenVMS System Software Group  Hewlett-Packard Company 
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