1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 15 Jul 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 388       Contents: Audit Trail of Interactive DCL Re: Blogging on VMS " Re: cluster_config extreme badness* Re: CTRL/C raise exceptions in PTHREAD$RTL Re: DS10 Fan Replacement DS10 Fan Replacement Re: HSZ40 disks unavailable  Re: HSZ40 disks unavailable = Re: Intel Itanium's very survival in doubt - inquirer article = Re: Intel Itanium's very survival in doubt - inquirer article 6 Microsoft users: Think the virus situation is bad now? Re: OpenVMS makes Datamation Re: OpenVMS makes Datamation6 Re: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ????6 Re: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ????. Re: OpenVMS Marketing: Variations on "stealth". Re: OpenVMS Marketing: Variations on "stealth". Re: OpenVMS Marketing: Variations on "stealth". Re: OpenVMS Marketing: Variations on "stealth"- Re: Oracle Classic migration (OpenVMS to WNT) 1 Re: Turn-key OpenVMS E-mail, web server solution? 1 Re: Turn-key OpenVMS E-mail, web server solution? 1 Re: Turn-key OpenVMS E-mail, web server solution? 1 Re: Turn-key OpenVMS E-mail, web server solution?  Yes, purveyor runs perl! [Fwd: WASD 10th Anniversary] Re: [OT] LAMP - an observation  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2004 18:58:09 -0700 From: lsk55@hotmail.com (Scott) ' Subject: Audit Trail of Interactive DCL = Message-ID: <926edf3b.0407141758.643c0457@posting.google.com>   F I have a command procedure that simulates the DCL command line prompt,F logging everything that the user types.  It works great, except that IE lose up-arrow and RECALL.  I don't want to use ACCOUNTING because the G information I want to track is really pretty minor and I don't want the G the overhead.  I don't want to use a pseudo-terminal because it creates G another process (I've got over 2,000 users on a single Alpha.)  But I'd * sure like to get up-arrow and RECALL back!  F So does anyone have any ideas about how I can track just what is typedE in at the DCL prompt in interactive mode?  (Is there a hook I can use  in the CLI or something?)   > Thank you for taking the time to consider my problem.  --Scott   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:26:41 +0200  From: jf.pieronne@laposte.net  Subject: Re: Blogging on VMS2 Message-ID: <cd3tt2$jfe$1@news-reader3.wanadoo.fr>   >  >> > , > phpbb now work near out of the box on VMS, > 3 > I have add the following 2 lines to extension.inc  > # > if (! extension_loaded ("mysql"))  >     dl ("php_mysql");  >  > J > and that's all (except the configuration rule for my httpd server (WASD) >  > config
 > WASD 8.5	 > PHP 1.2  > MySQL 4.1.3 (latest kit) >  > D > I have a small problem to fix, because I run phpbb script under a H > dedicated username (I do this for all, so any security issue into any $ > tools is restricted to this tool). > ) > The user is corectly register but I got 8 > %TCPIP-E-SMTP_CFERROR, control file error in create_cf@ > after register a user when the script try to send an ack mail. >  > B > I Don't know where the problem come from, if someone has a idea. >  >   O I have found the problem, when I configure phpbb, I have misconfigure the SMTP  / part into the General Admin Configuration Panel 0 I need to set "Use SMTP Server for email" to yes and " "SMTP Server Address" to localhost     Now all work correctly :-)    
 Jean-Franois    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:37:40 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) + Subject: Re: cluster_config extreme badness ( Message-ID: <cd45ik$mbi$1@pcls4.std.com>  4 David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:   >Something that bit me once:  G >I had a system disk where [SYS0.SYSCOMMON] was the common tree's start G >point, and [VMS$COMMON] was the alias. Even my MOVEROOT kit would have  >clobbered that setup.  G What does CLUSTER_CONFIG.COM do wrong if the backlink/alias is mis-set?  --   -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:57:35 +0200  From: jf.pieronne@laposte.net 3 Subject: Re: CTRL/C raise exceptions in PTHREAD$RTL 2 Message-ID: <cd3vn0$q01$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr>   Richard Brodie wrote:   Y > <jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote in message news:cd05ts$mph$1@news-reader1.wanadoo.fr...  > P >>I have an old bug in Python and MySQL shells and as Python 2.4 and MySQL 2.1.49 >>will be released soon, I would like to fix this bug :-)  >>* >>Hitting CTRL/C give the following error: >>= >>%CMA-F-EXCCOP, exception raised; VMS condition code follows 6 >>-SYSTEM-F-CONTROLC, operation completed under CTRL/C >>Any idea?  >  >  >  threadcp/disable=upcalls? > P Thanks but this disable the multiprocessor ability, which I would like to avoid.  L > It's something to do with thread support, I think. I don't understand why. >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2004 15:49:38 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ! Subject: Re: DS10 Fan Replacement 3 Message-ID: <eRuhsmpt41hO@eisner.encompasserve.org>   R In article <6rudnc_MlbFOD2jd4p2dnA@onewest.net>, Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> writes:A > I have a DS10 (full height, not a DS10L) with a very noisy fan.  > ; > Where can I get a replacement (Part number, vendor, etc.)   E    Lots of us have VMS systems with noisy fans.  Sometimes these fans F    are shared amoungst several systems.  The fans keep making noise on    c.o.v, Eisner, other forums.          	    8-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:22:55 -0600  From: Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net>  Subject: DS10 Fan Replacement 0 Message-ID: <6rudnc_MlbFOD2jd4p2dnA@onewest.net>  ? I have a DS10 (full height, not a DS10L) with a very noisy fan.   9 Where can I get a replacement (Part number, vendor, etc.)    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:20:19 -0500 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> $ Subject: Re: HSZ40 disks unavailable3 Message-ID: <40F5A393.877E71D9@applied-synergy.com>    hieronymous wrote: > F > Just replaced the cache batteries in dual HSZ40's after both batteryH > sets failed.  Both controllers now show "battery GOOD, cache GOOD" andF > everything looks as it should.  I see all the devices and I can boot1 > from the one which is the original system disk. 9 > All devices appear normal from the Alpha console level.  > C > The problem is that other than the system disk, none of the other F > disks are available.  If I try to boot from any of them then it saysG > "no media present or disabled via the run/stop switch".   In VMS they G > appear as normal online unmounted disks but give the error "medium is   > offline" if I try to use them. > $ > Any idea what the problem is here?  " Check the units.  (SHOW UNIT FULL)  G You probably have some error which needs to be cleared.  Once the error 1 is cleared, the unit(s) should come back on line.   
 Good luck!  G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- $ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-3074    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2004 16:29:41 -05004 From: kuhrt@nospammy.encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)$ Subject: Re: HSZ40 disks unavailable3 Message-ID: <d+S+P3IQzD9q@eisner.encompasserve.org>   g In article <fe9697fd.0407140717.4b982f71@posting.google.com>, steve.esson@esa.int (hieronymous) writes: F > Just replaced the cache batteries in dual HSZ40's after both batteryH > sets failed.  Both controllers now show "battery GOOD, cache GOOD" andF > everything looks as it should.  I see all the devices and I can boot1 > from the one which is the original system disk. 9 > All devices appear normal from the Alpha console level.  > C > The problem is that other than the system disk, none of the other F > disks are available.  If I try to boot from any of them then it saysG > "no media present or disabled via the run/stop switch".   In VMS they G > appear as normal online unmounted disks but give the error "medium is   > offline" if I try to use them. > $ > Any idea what the problem is here?  < If your cache batteries went bad, then chances are the units? are visable, but not usable until you explicitly tell the HSZ40 > to fix the error.  Are you getting any error messages?  If you< issue a SHOW THIS command does it say anything about invalid> caches?  Another command to use is SHOW UNIT FULL, which will  show why a unit is not usable.  = It's been a long while since I've had an HSZ40.  When I had a ? problem like yours it was usually because the Z40 would put the ? units into an unaccessable state instead of allowing data to be > potentially corrupted.  If you clear the error(s), chances are all will be well.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:47:59 GMT & From: Rick Jones <foo@bar.baz.invalid>F Subject: Re: Intel Itanium's very survival in doubt - inquirer article2 Message-ID: <jleJc.5842$f62.5307@news.cpqcorp.net>  : Andrew Harrison <andrew_remove_.harrison@s_u_n.com> wrote:E > I said that the benchmark data supplied by HP required the consumer D > of this data to understand the ratio of kernel/user that bind usesC > and then map it to their application in order for HP's data to be 
 > usefull.  E Yes, I work for HP, but it is a bit of a stretch to say that the bind   stuff was "_HP_" supplying data.  C > Had HP chosen to publish the results of running SPECint or SPECfp C > then customers would at least have access to data based on a test B > that doesn't have an arbitrary and unpublished mix of kernel andB > user. SPECint/SPECfp are designed specifically to avoid using OS > services.   D If the mix of user/kernel for bind is unpublished where did you find your 40/60 data?  C Indeed, the SPECcpu suite takes great pains to avoid going into the E OS, and to avoid going into system libraries. Given that, it does not A seem clear that it would be an especially good starting point for = someone wanting to estimate the performance of their emulated > application.  Just as with the BIND named data I provided, theB customer would have to know their application's user/kernel split.  F > This would have told customers exactly how fast the emulation is forC > CPU bound applications and thats a much easier starting point for = > them in the journey they will need to undertake to get to a A > reasonable approximation to how fast their application will run  > emulated on Itanium.  F It would say how fast emulation is for applications that spend no timeE in the kernel.  An application can spend time in the kernel and still E be CPU bound.  And of course, the question of whether the application F running under emulation spends much time waiting for I/O or user input or whatever...  
 rick jones --  ? Process shall set you free from the need for rational thought.  F these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :)A feel free to post, OR email to raj in cup.hp.com  but NOT BOTH...    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:51:01 GMT & From: Rick Jones <foo@bar.baz.invalid>F Subject: Re: Intel Itanium's very survival in doubt - inquirer article2 Message-ID: <pNiJc.5879$II2.5367@news.cpqcorp.net>  ) Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote: @ > Indeed.  But (as I noted earlier) that was not the topic underD > discussion: what was being discussed was the performance of ItanicE > emulation, not the overall performance of IA32 applications running D > under some 64-bit Itanic OS with unquantified mixes of user/kernel > execution time.   = I guess I just lept forward from one to the other - perhaps I 9 misperceived an implication to application performance.     D >> It would say how fast emulation is for applications that spend no >> time in the kernel.  2 > No, it would say how fast emulation is, period.     I'll assert violent agreement :)  
 rick jones --  ? Process shall set you free from the need for rational thought.  F these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :)A feel free to post, OR email to raj in cup.hp.com  but NOT BOTH...    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:27:33 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ? Subject: Microsoft users: Think the virus situation is bad now? , Message-ID: <R4udnRdclfnQOGjdRVn-sQ@igs.net>  @ Attention Will Robinson - OpenVMS advertising opportunity ahead.      / http://www.securitypipeline.com/trends/23900562   
 July 13, 2004    Dark Age Ahead      $       By Keith Ferrell, TechWeb News  J Think the virus situation is bad now? Then you don't want to look a decadeL ahead. The next ten years are likely to bring a dramatically worsening virus@ environment, according to a recent survey of European companies.K In the course of conducting the survey, the security firm MessageLabs found L that a whopping 1 in 10.7 current e-mails carry viruses. Survey participantsL predicted a doubling of that rate by 2014, with the majority of participantsJ seeing an equally devastating increase in the destructive power of viruses
 and worms.  J European companies are not alone in foreseeing a coming security dark age.L An InformationWeek global security survey released last week showed a steadyJ increase in the number of attacks faced by enterprises, and offered little! hope for a decline any time soon.     K The effects of the growing onslaught are already being felt: only 6 percent H of the 7,000 participating companies reported no downtime as a result ofL attacks in the last year. Worldwide losses attributable to viruses and worms9 totaled $12.5 billion--that's billion, with a B--in 2003.     I Other surveys concur. The research firm The Aberdeen Group reported early K this month that business are suffering an average $2 million loss from each L successful Internet-based attack they experience. The study also reported anL average of 22 hours of business downtime from a successful attack, including virus infections.   J The problem extends to businesses and industries we would expect to be theF world's leaders in security. Yet 83 percent of financial-service firmsG surveyed by Deloitte & Touche LLP confessed to having had their systems * compromised by an attack in the past year.  E The sheer volume of weapons is equally disturbing. Close to 1,000 new K viruses were identified this past May alone. June saw two Web-based attacks J launched by criminals in the same week. And hackers' pursuit of previously9 unknown--or zero-day--vulnerabilities remains relentless.   K All of which adds to the mountain of hacker victories that casts its shadow  over the rare security win.   K There's little comfort to be taken from just how accurate we were with last I December's predictions of a bad year, as we brace ourselves for many more  attacks to come.             begin 666 blank.gif = K1TE&.#EA`0`!`( ``/___P```"'Y! $`````+ `````!``$```("1 $`.P``  `  end    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2004 22:43:56 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) % Subject: Re: OpenVMS makes Datamation 3 Message-ID: <$zR869DqmrZd@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <9526959CBwspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>, wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) writes:    >  > Hi Mary Fran,  > C > About six or seven years ago (I'm a longtime CW reader), I wrote  B > to you and asked why you didn't cover OpenVMS more often (or at D > all).  The response at the time, as I recall, was that it was too 5 > small a niche to be of interest to your readship.     6 	There was a flurry of VMS articles in that timeframe.  B http://www.computerworld.com/news/1998/story/0,11280,32849,00.html     OpenVMS gets Compaq nod  News Story by Jaikumar Vijayan    O OCTOBER 05, 1998 - Skeptical users looking for signs of Compaq Computer Corp.'s O long-term commitment to the OpenVMS platform should find some reassurance in an 9 announcement the company is scheduled to make this week.  I Compaq will unveil the much- anticipated Galaxy Software Architecture for L OpenVMS at the Digital Equipment Computer Users Society (DECUS)conference in
 Los Angeles.     [snip]  I "Essentially, I think Galaxy is going to be a real high-end thing for the N moment," said Rob Young, a longtime VMS user and a consultant at Data Systems,M Inc. in Wilmington, Del. "My real interest is in seeing how this [technology] O will evolve" during the next few years to include support for Windows NT or for C fault-tolerant capabilities such as hot-swapping CPUs, Young said.    B http://www.computerworld.com/news/1998/story/0,11280,32879,00.htmlB http://www.computerworld.com/news/1998/story/0,11280,32959,00.html  = 	The person to contact then was Jaikumar Vijayan.  He was the A 	mid-range reporter.  Jai is now doing Corporate security/privacy  	issues; manufacturing.   1 	The list of reporters and job functions is here:   5 http://www.computerworld.com/about/contacts?type=edit    > I was pushing D > for more OpenVMS exposure at that time because the manangement of E > the company I worked for seemed far too willing to trust a product  B > that was, in my opinion, an inappropriate choice for some types ' > workloads - namely Microsoft Windows.  > = > Well times have changed a little, and despite many onerous  > > predictions from the trade press (including CW, I believe), E > OpenVMS lives on, and continues to thrive in the high-availability   > and high-security arena: > * > http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7680A > http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=  > 131808 > D > Since security and reliability are now daily headlines, and other C > trade reporters are picking up on OpenVMS, do you think CW might  > > now investigate and report on OpenVMS?  Your readship might E > appreciate this now that security is the stuff nightmares are made   > of.  >   I 	Jai knows what OpenVMS is.  Maybe give Jai a call as a starting place.   D 	He will direct you to the right person.  I don't know who Mary FranF 	is.  But it looks like ComputerWorld hasn't written an article about  	VMS in quite a while.  G 	You know... you might want to ask Jai if Patrick Thibodeau, Enterprise B 	systems; would be interested in chatting or call Patrick straight< 	up.  I think Patrick is very good.  Patrick would be a good= 	fit as VMS is an Enterprise OS.  Unless you are one of those ; 	tin-hatters Waiting for Godot and a VMS desktop push.  Ha.    				Rob    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:36:43 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> % Subject: Re: OpenVMS makes Datamation , Message-ID: <xPSdnVPjCspecGjdRVn-uQ@igs.net>   Warren Spencer wrote: < > a@nonymous.com (John Smith) wrote in <vP6dnUkA6MwTrmjdRVn- > gQ@igs.net>: > G >> Everyone here should do what I did today - send the link to this and D >> the other article to anyone you know who has influence over IT or >> executive decision making.  >>A >> I sent these links and a cover note to people we are currently F >> talking with about various projects, to friends who used to use VMS> >> and are still involved in non-VMS IT-related activities, toG >> application architects, to people I know in end-user departments who C >> have a lot of clout over what gets chosen, and to people who are ; >> royally pained by their current Microsoft-based systems.  >>C >> So far I've received two calls back from people who want to know  >> more. >>E >> Try it and see what happens with your circle of business contacts.  > C > I've already chewed the ears off of my business contacts over the ? > years, so this time I'll try a trade publication.  I sent the 7 > following letter to Mary Fran Johnson - the Editor of  > Computerworld: >  > ws > _________________  >  > Hi Mary Fran,  > B > About six or seven years ago (I'm a longtime CW reader), I wroteA > to you and asked why you didn't cover OpenVMS more often (or at C > all).  The response at the time, as I recall, was that it was too B > small a niche to be of interest to your readship.  I was pushingC > for more OpenVMS exposure at that time because the manangement of D > the company I worked for seemed far too willing to trust a productA > that was, in my opinion, an inappropriate choice for some types ' > workloads - namely Microsoft Windows.  > < > Well times have changed a little, and despite many onerous= > predictions from the trade press (including CW, I believe), D > OpenVMS lives on, and continues to thrive in the high-availability > and high-security arena: > * > http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7680A > http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=  > 131808 > C > Since security and reliability are now daily headlines, and other B > trade reporters are picking up on OpenVMS, do you think CW might= > now investigate and report on OpenVMS?  Your readship might D > appreciate this now that security is the stuff nightmares are made > of.  >  > Best regards,  >  > ws >  > Warren Spencer > Senior Software Engineer > The Associated Press > 212-xxx-xxxx    . Warren, you ARE a god!  Thanks for doing that.   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:44:09 +0000 (UTC) 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)? Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ???? 1 Message-ID: <newscache$nwru0i$t7p1$1@news.sil.at>   R In article <40F53285.2040406@uiowa.edu>, Rick Dyson <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> writes:J >I have the dual HSG80 setup too, and I have v8.7F-4 on my HSG80s.  I have/ >not checked recently to see if -4 is current.    M According to http://www.compaq.com/products/storageworks/softwaredrivers/acs/ ' the current version seems to be V8.7F-7    Time for an update ;-)   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:21:54 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <My.Full.Name@intel.com>? Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station -  cluster storage ???? + Message-ID: <cd485i$jdm$1@news01.intel.com>     Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:  T > In article <40F53285.2040406@uiowa.edu>, Rick Dyson <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> writes: > K >>I have the dual HSG80 setup too, and I have v8.7F-4 on my HSG80s.  I have 0 >>not checked recently to see if -4 is current.  >  > O > According to http://www.compaq.com/products/storageworks/softwaredrivers/acs/ ) > the current version seems to be V8.7F-7  >  > Time for an update ;-)  >      Probably not...  While it's a bit hard to get the release? notes for any of the patch levels to ACS, we stopped at V8.7F-3 = which has a fix for a potential controller crash when running 3 FRUTIL (I think) to replace a redundant controller.   =      OTOH, V8.7-7 BREAKS HSZTERM!  I.e., you lose the ability : to $Set Host/Scsi $1$DGAxxx.  Also, near as we could tell,; none of the fixes in -4 through -7 corrected anything for a 9 VMS environment with a dedicated SAN.  A lot of the fixes : apply to Windows environments with zoning and such like...  C      We've asked that the next point release (V8.8F or ???) restore ? the ability to use HSZTERM, but we don't have a commitment yet.    	-Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2004 13:59:10 -07001 From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski) 7 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Marketing: Variations on "stealth" = Message-ID: <857e9e41.0407141259.1ae43ffe@posting.google.com>    Dave,   C Just in case I misunderstood you let me clarify my comment.  HP did E not sponser the articles written.  All the folks that participated in C the articles did so on their own and deserve all the credit for the  great jobs they did.  B It is my great hope that other trade journals will follow suit notB only for VMS and IT but all areas and get users to participate and write articles.    I am sorry if I sounded rude.   
 Warm Regards,  Sue    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:32:45 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>7 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Marketing: Variations on "stealth" & Message-ID: <40F5B48D.8050007@home.nl>   Sue Skonetski wrote: > Dave,  > E > Just in case I misunderstood you let me clarify my comment.  HP did G > not sponser the articles written.  All the folks that participated in E > the articles did so on their own and deserve all the credit for the  > great jobs they did.   They sure do !!!   > D > It is my great hope that other trade journals will follow suit notD > only for VMS and IT but all areas and get users to participate and > write articles.  >  > I am sorry if I sounded rude.  >  > Warm Regards,  > Sue    Hi Sue,   O Just as a matter of interest. Are articles like these brought to the attention  O HP management? Maybe by you, or by other OpenVMS staff ? We (the customers and  L HP OpenVMS staff) would love to see more OpenVMS marketing, and maybe, just Q maybe, some of the top brass in HP may get the idea that they have someting very  M valuable in their software portfolio. We keep praying that some day they may    discover what they have aquired.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:32:57 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 7 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Marketing: Variations on "stealth" , Message-ID: <YeSdnXbcXPR8cWjdRVn-gg@igs.net>   Dirk Munk wrote: > Sue Skonetski wrote: >> Dave, >>F >> Just in case I misunderstood you let me clarify my comment.  HP didH >> not sponser the articles written.  All the folks that participated inF >> the articles did so on their own and deserve all the credit for the >> great jobs they did.  >  > They sure do !!! >  >>E >> It is my great hope that other trade journals will follow suit not E >> only for VMS and IT but all areas and get users to participate and  >> write articles. >>  >> I am sorry if I sounded rude. >> >> Warm Regards, >> Sue > 	 > Hi Sue,  > F > Just as a matter of interest. Are articles like these brought to theG > attention HP management? Maybe by you, or by other OpenVMS staff ? We E > (the customers and HP OpenVMS staff) would love to see more OpenVMS G > marketing, and maybe, just maybe, some of the top brass in HP may get B > the idea that they have someting very valuable in their softwareF > portfolio. We keep praying that some day they may discover what they > have aquired.      Dirk,   G Apparently those at HP who control the budgets for advertising have not  heard of OpenVMS.   F Try writing http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/fiorina/index.htmlB  to see if carly(tm) can be convinced to take one less trip on theK Gulfstream to Davos in order to fund a whole year of OpenVMS advertising in D the Financial Times, Wall Street Journal, The Economist, FrankfurterE Zeitung, International Herald Tribune, The Asian Wall Street Journal, F Singapore Times Straits, Ashai Shimbun Journal, Computerworld, E-Week,# Information Week, and MAD magazine.   
 Sorry Ken.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:14:44 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>7 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Marketing: Variations on "stealth" ? Message-ID: <UwnJc.153005$2o2.8397103@twister.southeast.rr.com>   . "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message& news:YeSdnXbcXPR8cWjdRVn-gg@igs.net... > Dirk Munk wrote: > > Sue Skonetski wrote:
 > >> Dave, > >>H > >> Just in case I misunderstood you let me clarify my comment.  HP didJ > >> not sponser the articles written.  All the folks that participated inH > >> the articles did so on their own and deserve all the credit for the > >> great jobs they did.  > >  > > They sure do !!! > >  > >>G > >> It is my great hope that other trade journals will follow suit not G > >> only for VMS and IT but all areas and get users to participate and  > >> write articles. > >>" > >> I am sorry if I sounded rude. > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >> Sue > >  > > Hi Sue,  > > H > > Just as a matter of interest. Are articles like these brought to theI > > attention HP management? Maybe by you, or by other OpenVMS staff ? We G > > (the customers and HP OpenVMS staff) would love to see more OpenVMS I > > marketing, and maybe, just maybe, some of the top brass in HP may get D > > the idea that they have someting very valuable in their softwareH > > portfolio. We keep praying that some day they may discover what they > > have aquired.  >  >  > Dirk,  > I > Apparently those at HP who control the budgets for advertising have not  > heard of OpenVMS.  > H > Try writing http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/fiorina/index.htmlD >  to see if carly(tm) can be convinced to take one less trip on theJ > Gulfstream to Davos in order to fund a whole year of OpenVMS advertising inF > the Financial Times, Wall Street Journal, The Economist, FrankfurterG > Zeitung, International Herald Tribune, The Asian Wall Street Journal, H > Singapore Times Straits, Ashai Shimbun Journal, Computerworld, E-Week,% > Information Week, and MAD magazine.  >  > Sorry Ken.   :)   -- Kenneth R. Farmer <><  OpenVMS.org    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2004 19:42:55 -0700, From: JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow)6 Subject: Re: Oracle Classic migration (OpenVMS to WNT)= Message-ID: <4b6ec350.0407141842.6019bc2d@posting.google.com>   : fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) wrote in message 9 > We have an old AXP server with a legacy Oracle Database < > with financial information and we need to migrate it from - > the OpenVMS server to a Windows NT server.    5  - create tablespaces large enough before the import.   D  - use the same version of the database on both platforms; otherwiseC we have sometimes encountered some INVALID COLUMN errors. It can be F difficult to get older "legacy" database software CD-Roms from Oracle.F I hope you already have that identical version of the database install software for Windows NT.  E  - the database's "INIT.ORA" for Windows should be similar to the one A used on OpenVMS except for the path names for "dump directories",  control files, etc.   D  - shutdown, defragment, startup your database. The Windows platform/ does not build tablespaces contiguous best-try.   @  - If your application uses public synonyms, we normally have to rebuild the public synonyms.  ?  - the application client workstations may need to change their D TNSNAMES.ORA files for the new i.p. address and database name unless5 you are able to use the same as what were used before   @ You do not mention what client applications access the database.E Do they connect via ODBC? You might need to rebuild ODBC connections.   E If you had file sharing or data extracts from the database, you might ( need a NFS directory to access the data.  F You will notice that directories (folders) for database administration; are "out of the box" different between OpenVMS and Windows. A Note: you do not "carve out SGA memory" in Windows as you did for  OpenVMS.  F Migrate to a comparable edition (standard, enterprise) of the databaseA and number of CPUs; otherwise your license payments to Oracle may  change.   6 The above are considerations for an Oracle 8i version.5 "Your mileage may vary" for other versions of Oracle.   D Jim, OpenVMS and Database Systems Manager, Data911, Alameda, CA, USA   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:48:19 +0000 (UTC) = From: jlw@psulias.psu.edu (j.lance wilkinson, (814) 865-1818) : Subject: Re: Turn-key OpenVMS E-mail, web server solution?. Message-ID: <cd3v5j$10b0$1@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>  q >In article <ZIdJc.8615$z35.7573@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> writes:  	... >>Q >>The PMDF/Sophos looks good, (if you can get a Sophos dealer to actually return  Q >>your call!!!)  Does PMDF have a calendaring feature built in like Exchange - i  Q >>hate to use that as an example, but it is (unfortunately) currently the "gold"   >>standard.   G 	Process Software's new "PreciseMail Web Access" purports to have this. @ 	Looks like an Outlook/Exchange/Groupwise clone, runs on Win andG 	Solaris under native web servers there (no Tru64 or OpenVMS, sad) and  > 	works with PMDF's POPstore and MSGstore servers (POP3, IMAP).  P +----"Never Underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of mag tapes"--+B | J.Lance Wilkinson ("Lance")		InterNet:  Lance.Wilkinson@psu.edu < | Systems Design Specialist - Lead	AT&T:      (814) 865-18189 | Digital Library Technologies		FAX:       (814) 863-3560C2 | 3 Paterno Library				"I'd rather be dancing..." B | Penn State University		    A host is a host from coast to coast,K | University Park, PA 16802	    And no one will talk to a host that's closeSC | <postmaster@psulias.psu.edu>	    Unless the host that isn't closeu: | EMail Professional since 1978	    Is busy, hung or dead.P +---------"He's dead, Jim. I'll get his tricorder. You take his wallet."-------+9                 [apologies to DeForest Kelley, 1920-1999] 3 <A Href="http://perdita.lcs.psu.edu">home page</a> iJ <a Href="http://perdita.lcs.psu.edu/junkdec.htm">junk mail declaration</a> --	/"\ 	\ /	ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN 	 X	AGAINST HTML MAIL  	/ \   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:49:16 GMTn1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>t: Subject: Re: Turn-key OpenVMS E-mail, web server solution?= Message-ID: <07gJc.15222$o85.4394@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>e  ( j.lance wilkinson, (814) 865-1818 wrote:  r >>In article <ZIdJc.8615$z35.7573@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> writes: >  > 	... > R >>>The PMDF/Sophos looks good, (if you can get a Sophos dealer to actually return R >>>your call!!!)  Does PMDF have a calendaring feature built in like Exchange - i R >>>hate to use that as an example, but it is (unfortunately) currently the "gold"  >>>standard. >  > I > 	Process Software's new "PreciseMail Web Access" purports to have this.CB > 	Looks like an Outlook/Exchange/Groupwise clone, runs on Win andE > 	Solaris under native web servers there (no Tru64 or OpenVMS, sad) u  O defeats the purpose of having an OpenVMS turnkey solution now, doesn't it? So, I0 is Process Software also abandoning OpenVMS?????  C > and works with PMDF's POPstore and MSGstore servers (POP3, IMAP).r > R > +----"Never Underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of mag tapes"--+D > | J.Lance Wilkinson ("Lance")		InterNet:  Lance.Wilkinson@psu.edu      --   Michael Austin.  Consultant - Available.e@ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:17:50 -0400-$ From: "PEN" <paul.nuneznosp@mhp.com>: Subject: Re: Turn-key OpenVMS E-mail, web server solution?, Message-ID: <cd44dh$nia$1@hplms2.hpl.hp.com>   Hi,d  . Just thought I'd add this product to the fray:  + http://www.networkunity.com/customsoft.htmlg  B I just heard about it today and am in no way affiliated with it...   Paul  ? "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in messagen% news:40F49CCD.5CA7E6AA@comcast.net... H > Is anyone aware of a company prodiving a turn-key OpenVMS solution for# > e-mail, web services and/or both?r [snip]   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2004 15:44:02 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski): Subject: Re: Turn-key OpenVMS E-mail, web server solution?= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0407141444.5fedc65e@posting.google.com>   u Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> wrote in message news:<ZIdJc.8615$z35.7573@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>...s > >  > > I'll do it! :) > > P > > PMDF with Sophos antivirus and Precisemail anti-spam for the VMS mail server/ > > and TCPware/Purveyor for the web server ...  > Q > Bob,  I know you really like Purveyor and TCPWare, and it has worked very well tR > for a long time, but the fact is that if you have to "pay extra" for it, and it R > is not actively being developed and it may not be ported to Itanium (regardless Q > of whether you like that chip or not), then it doesn't make sense to use it in  R > this manner.  A turn-key solution also needs to be somewhat "industry standard" Q > (I hate using that term, but it does apply) so that most anyone can figure out  S > how to configure it and support it.  TCPWARE will add a level of complexity when tS > trying to install anything else, Oracle comes to mind, that would not make it my b > first choice.m > K > Does Purveyor speak PERL, PHP, MySQL, Python, etc... not the last time I 4N > checked.  Using Apache on VMS I have been able to use several different PHP S > "freeware" downloads with only minor changes - usually involving ODS-5/multi-dot   > filenames. > Q > The PMDF/Sophos looks good, (if you can get a Sophos dealer to actually return .Q > your call!!!)  Does PMDF have a calendaring feature built in like Exchange - i SQ > hate to use that as an example, but it is (unfortunately) currently the "gold"   > standard.h > N > VMS has come a step closer in being able to play in the LDAP/single-sign-on Q > arena which would be needed to make all of these tools play in the NT sand box.  > P > I would seperate Web server functinality from mail functionality - especially 9 > for larger installations where email speed is critical.h  A yes purveyor runs perl, and process says they will be porting the-@ precise web access to vms hopefully by years end ... for now you5 can use yahmail for web access and it works great ...j   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2004 19:38:57 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)! Subject: Yes, purveyor runs perl!y= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0407141838.62a081b6@posting.google.com>0   from ...  , http://vms.process.com/~help/helpapicgi.html  F Executables must have the extension .EXE or .DLL and command procedure= files must have the extension .COM. Executables with the .EXElE extension are executed as separate processes whereas .DLLs are linkeds7 dynamically to the address space of the server process.   F To execute other types of programs, such as PERL or TCL, you can use aD simple command procedure that invokes the interpreter appropriately.> Note that this is also a security feature, since some of theseE interpreters support options to override the input or redirect outputtC and these options are not directly accessible (unless you provide a05 mechanism to make them so via the command procedure).c   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:15:35 +0200a1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois_Pi=E9ronne?=u% Subject: [Fwd: WASD 10th Anniversary] 2 Message-ID: <cd4498$4qr$1@news-reader1.wanadoo.fr>    From the WASD mailing list:         Greetings info-WASD.  E Yep, the WASD 10th Anniversary kit (v8.5) is now on the download pagee      http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/   2 The 'significant changes' document can be found at  /    http://wasd.vsm.com.au/doc/misc/changes.htmls   Seems pretty stable.  Have fun.k   Regards, Mark.  F +--------------------------------------------------------------------+E   Mark Daniel                         http://wasd.vsm.com.au/adelaidenF   mailto:Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au (Mark.Daniel@dsto.defence.gov.au);   A pox on the houses of all SPAMers.  Make that two poxes. F +--------------------------------------------------------------------+   .e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:09:45 -0700e# From: filesiteguy <abuse@127.0.0.1>-' Subject: Re: [OT] LAMP - an observation-8 Message-ID: <19fbf0t0aivdq54aseuo4gu13balr0l1p0@4ax.com>  0 On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:42:48 GMT, Michael Austin# <maustin@firstdbasource.com> wrote:   , >So, if Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP is a LAMP box >  >does that mean that:u >@% >Windows/IIS/MySQL/PHP is a WIMP box?) >u	 >:) :) :)H     Oh that is funny!!!e  # (writing from a WIMP box right now)s kaio( www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org g2004 at g3prod.cotse.net    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.388 ************************