1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 29 Jul 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 417       Contents: Re: AlphaPC LX164 and VMS 7.3-2  Re: AlphaPC LX164 and VMS 7.3-2 8 Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ???< Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ???< Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ???< Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? Re: ES40 NIC's inactive state  Re: ES40 NIC's inactive state  Re: ES40 NIC's inactive state 6 FCIA applauds HP's "thought leadership" on FATA drives: Re: FCIA applauds HP's "thought leadership" on FATA drives- Re: Is it decnet problem or Thruway problem ? % Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers % Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers % Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers 9 Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 - conneting to internet via ADSL  Re: OpenVMS Backup Failure) Re: OpenVMS Management Station -  HSZTERM  Re: Qt ready for OpenVMS Alpha.  Re: Qt ready for OpenVMS Alpha.  Re: Qt ready for OpenVMS Alpha.  Re: Qt ready for OpenVMS Alpha. # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX? # Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?  SSH proxy for X  Re: SSH proxy for X ( Re: StorageWorks EVA to Windows Question3 Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow 3 Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow 3 Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow 3 Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow 3 Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow 3 Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow  Re: US Government IT spending O Re: [TCPware, V73_MGMTAGENTS] Does anyone have a working installation running ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:59:21 +0200 7 From: Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> ( Subject: Re: AlphaPC LX164 and VMS 7.3-2+ Message-ID: <ceaapc$tt2$1@bozon2.softax.pl>    David J Dachtera wrote:  > Tom Crabtree wrote:  >  >>Bob: >>F >>It could run Unix, so in theory, it *should* be able to boot to VMS. >  > / > Can you get hold of CD and try to boot it up?  >  > D.J.D.   My experience was:   1. I booted VMS from CD.@ 2. I started to install VMS on disk but after 50% system stoped.   What can I do?   Robert   ------------------------------  " Date: Thu, 29 Jul 04 11:28:26 +100 From: rok@nuk.uni-lj.si ( Subject: Re: AlphaPC LX164 and VMS 7.3-2$ Message-ID: <4108df5d@NUK.Uni-Lj.Si>  9 Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> writes:  >  >1. I booted VMS from CD. A >2. I started to install VMS on disk but after 50% system stoped.  >  >What can I do?   C  Compatibility problem exists between the AlphaPC 164LX motherboard ? and QLogic SCSI controller chips ISP1020 and ISP1040. Check it: ! if true, replace SCSI controller,  if false, test your system with 
 >>> test & >>> show_status C  If the system freezes (or stops, as you say), replace motherboard.    Regards,  D Rok Vidmar                       Internet:  rok.vidmar@nuk.uni-lj.si; National and University Library  Phone:     +386 1 421 5461 ; Turjaska 1, SI-1000 Ljubljana    Fax:       +386 1 421 5464  Slovenia   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:25:30 +0200 * From: alexandre <alexandre.mongin@csgv.fr>A Subject: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? = Message-ID: <GFr.1b732708a6da4d4c989681@news.adsl.hexanet.fr>   
 Hi there !   I've got a question here:   H Would it be possible to 'spy' on a printer queue in order to catch when C a file is being printed, and thus to make a copy of it before it's  D deleted in the case where it's sent on the printer device through a  'print/delete' command ???   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 10:15:05 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.orgE Subject: Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? 3 Message-ID: <glt67hkoOwZj@eisner.encompasserve.org>   j In article <GFr.1b732708a6da4d4c989681@news.adsl.hexanet.fr>, alexandre <alexandre.mongin@csgv.fr> writes: > Hi there ! >  > I've got a question here:  > J > Would it be possible to 'spy' on a printer queue in order to catch when E > a file is being printed, and thus to make a copy of it before it's  F > deleted in the case where it's sent on the printer device through a  > 'print/delete' command ???  C Sure.  Easy way is to stop the queue first (to make sure it doesn't L print before you can catch it).  Then $ SHOW QUEUE /FULL /ALL <target-queue>C The file name(s) should be there.  Make copies of them.  Then start 
 the queue.  G If you want to automate the process, I'd recommend EXECSYMB (google for @ it).  Have the user print to an EXECSYMB queue and have EXECSYMB@ copy the source files and then print the copy on the real queue.  A Another way is a user-modified print symbiont.  PSM$xxx routines.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:53:37 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>E Subject: Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? 0 Message-ID: <874qnqdab2.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  , alexandre <alexandre.mongin@csgv.fr> writes:  D > Would it be possible to 'spy' on a printer queue in order to catchD > when a file is being printed, and thus to make a copy of it before@ > it's deleted in the case where it's sent on the printer device& > through a 'print/delete' command ???  B Yes, see /RETAIN for the queue or print command for a simple case.  , What is the problem you are trying to solve?   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:47:26 -0400 * From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca>E Subject: Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? 1 Message-ID: <yIaOc.687$KF.4544@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>   D > Yes, see /RETAIN for the queue or print command for a simple case. >    Wrong.K /RETAIN keeps the job on the queue after execution, but does not change the  way the job runs. L That is, if it's set to delete the file after printing, it will still delete it.   . > What is the problem you are trying to solve?   That`s the real question !   --   Syltrem    OpenVMS 7.3-1 + Oracle 8.1.7.4H http://pages.infinit.net/syltrem (OpenVMS related web site, en franais)% ---zulu is not in my email address--- C "Paul Repacholi" <prep@prep.synonet.com> a crit dans le message de * news:874qnqdab2.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com.... > alexandre <alexandre.mongin@csgv.fr> writes: > F > > Would it be possible to 'spy' on a printer queue in order to catchF > > when a file is being printed, and thus to make a copy of it beforeB > > it's deleted in the case where it's sent on the printer device( > > through a 'print/delete' command ??? > D > Yes, see /RETAIN for the queue or print command for a simple case. > . > What is the problem you are trying to solve? >  > --  > > Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,9 > +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. B >                                              West Australia 6076, > comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot0 > Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H > EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 09:56:08 -0700, From: jefflanka@volcanomail.com (Jeff Lanka)& Subject: Re: ES40 NIC's inactive state= Message-ID: <8201ded0.0407290856.76e569db@posting.google.com>   q jefflanka@volcanomail.com (Jeff Lanka) wrote in message news:<8201ded0.0407280716.32c07be2@posting.google.com>... g > David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<410702C7.F4B3AF08@comcast.net>...  > > Jeff Lanka wrote:  > > > G > > > I have a number of ES40's running 7.3-1 or 2.  All of them have 2  > > > NIC's EWA-0 and EWA-1  > > > K > > > We are trying to develop a com file which will switch from one NIC to J > > > the other (DECnet phase 4) in the case of a problem with the switch. > > >   > > > We are trying the command: > > > % > > > ncp>set circuit ewa-0 state off " > > > ncp>set line ewa-0 state off! > > > ncp>set line ewa-1 state on $ > > > ncp>set circuit ewa-1 state on > > # > > From distant, vague memories...  > > I > > Try DEFINE-ing both LINEs as "state on", but one circuit "state off", L > > and make sure to start DECnet before anything else (other than SCS) thatL > > tries to access the NICs. I think that might grab the NICs and set their  > > MAC address at startup time.
 > > D.J.D. > : > This fixed the problem!  Thanks very much for your help.    F I was wrong.  It fixed the problem on one node, but when I tried it onF another node it again gave me the IVADDR error.  I'm not going to lookE into some of the other suggestions given here and will report back if 3 I need more help.  Thanks for all your suggestions.    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 09:58:13 -0700, From: jefflanka@volcanomail.com (Jeff Lanka)& Subject: Re: ES40 NIC's inactive state= Message-ID: <8201ded0.0407290858.5d4c08c6@posting.google.com>   n Ryan Moore <rmoore@rmoore.dyndns.org> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.60.0407280827200.6156@jaipur.local>...L > Starting in OpenVMS v7.3-2, there is a new feature where you can tell the J > operating system to use two different NICs in a LAN "failover" set.  If M > the link on one of the cards fails, VMS will automatically failover to the  B > other card.  You wouldn't need to have any operator intevention. > J > Check out the 7.3-2 New Features manual.  And I believe the changes are E > also documented in the LANCP utility docs in the System Management   > Utilities Guide. > ( > On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Jeff Lanka wrote:H > > We're trying to give operators the ability to run a "switch_nic" comA > > file in case of failure on the active LAN.  The com file will / > > basically perform the commands given above.   ) Unfortunately most of our nodes are 7.3-1    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 10:00:04 -0700, From: jefflanka@volcanomail.com (Jeff Lanka)& Subject: Re: ES40 NIC's inactive state= Message-ID: <8201ded0.0407290900.49c2cd1b@posting.google.com>   d Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in message news:<8765882fa7.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>...0 > jefflanka@volcanomail.com (Jeff Lanka) writes: > F > >> You need the cards to be on independant segments or they will notG > >> be inited with the correct Hware address. You need a decnet router  > >> between them. >   3 > > The are on fully redundent independent segments  >   E > >> Once other protocols start using the card, the address is pretty 4 > >> well locked down, so you can't chop and change. >    > > Only DECnet  > F > And SCS, clustering? If so, when the system boots as part of initingB > the PEdriver etc, packets are sent out to discover other clusterH > members.  If these come into the other Enet controller, it will not beF > inited with the SCS/Decnet address. The segments must be independantD > so packet on one can not be seen by the other. You can only have a > router between them. > C > With that config, you can have both online and active at the same  > time.       N True, but we don't want both active.  The dual rails are just for hot standby.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 09:26:41 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) ? Subject: FCIA applauds HP's "thought leadership" on FATA drives = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0407290826.2474049d@posting.google.com>   0 http://www.fibrechannel.org/NEWS/fcia040726.html  < 'FCIA Endorses New Class of Hybrid Fibre Channel Disk Drives  > New Class of Capacity-Oriented Hybrid Fibre Channel Disk Drive Changing the Economics of SANs  @ July 26 , 2004. San Francisco, CA. -- The Fibre Channel IndustryF Association (FCIA) today announced that it is endorsing a new class of: hybrid disk drives conceived by HP, Hitachi Global StorageB Technologies and Seagate Technology. These hybrid drives combine aC Fibre Channel interface with a low-cost-per-gigabyte, high-capacity E disk drive mechanism to enable a new class of storage devices costing C significantly less per gigabyte than mission-critical Fibre Channel  drives.   B Built specifically for Fibre Channel systems, these hybrid drives,C when combined with high-performance Fibre Channel drives inside the ? same enclosure, allow customers the flexibility to segment data 9 between lower cost-per-gigabyte, high-capacity drives and 7 high-performance drives within a single storage system.   E "The FCIA applauds HP, Hitachi and Seagate for applying field-proven, F reliable FC interface technology to disk drives that are used for bulkC storage applications. This new class of disk drives will lower cost F while maintaining all the advantages of FC interface technology. HP isB demonstrating thought leadership by quickly addressing an emergingA market need. ", said Werner Glinka, Chairman of the Fibre Channel . Industry Association Marketing Working Group.' ...    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:35:25 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> C Subject: Re: FCIA applauds HP's "thought leadership" on FATA drives > Message-ID: <xzaOc.21801$Sx3.20082@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>   Keith Parris wrote:   2 > http://www.fibrechannel.org/NEWS/fcia040726.html > > > 'FCIA Endorses New Class of Hybrid Fibre Channel Disk Drives > @ > New Class of Capacity-Oriented Hybrid Fibre Channel Disk Drive  > Changing the Economics of SANs > B > July 26 , 2004. San Francisco, CA. -- The Fibre Channel IndustryH > Association (FCIA) today announced that it is endorsing a new class of< > hybrid disk drives conceived by HP, Hitachi Global StorageD > Technologies and Seagate Technology. These hybrid drives combine aE > Fibre Channel interface with a low-cost-per-gigabyte, high-capacity G > disk drive mechanism to enable a new class of storage devices costing E > significantly less per gigabyte than mission-critical Fibre Channel 	 > drives.  > D > Built specifically for Fibre Channel systems, these hybrid drives,E > when combined with high-performance Fibre Channel drives inside the A > same enclosure, allow customers the flexibility to segment data ; > between lower cost-per-gigabyte, high-capacity drives and 9 > high-performance drives within a single storage system.  > G > "The FCIA applauds HP, Hitachi and Seagate for applying field-proven, H > reliable FC interface technology to disk drives that are used for bulkE > storage applications. This new class of disk drives will lower cost H > while maintaining all the advantages of FC interface technology. HP isD > demonstrating thought leadership by quickly addressing an emergingC > market need. ", said Werner Glinka, Chairman of the Fibre Channel 0 > Industry Association Marketing Working Group.' > ...     N What this *can* ultimately mean is the demise of tape for initial backups. Of M course you will then moved to tape after the fact for off-site storage. If I  O loose a backup drive, I still have it on tape and will be refreshed during the   next backup cycle.  Q It is amazing how fast a restore can be... I have seen an RMAN backup of a 750GB  P (total raw file size) restored in just over 3.5 hours.  Imagine what that would  have been from tape...   --   Michael Austin.  Consultant - Available. @ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 08:08:35 -0700( From: tjonard@usa.net (Thomas A. Jonard)6 Subject: Re: Is it decnet problem or Thruway problem ?< Message-ID: <3ad0fd0.0407290708.48802734@posting.google.com>  y jignesh_vyas@hotmail.com (Jignesh Vyas 'Jigs') wrote in message news:<908a2e17.0407280214.41287a24@posting.google.com>...  > Hi,  > E > I have defined two decnet proxy on remote note and tried to perform F > thruway connect, on SYADM account it went fine but on POPR_x account > it login failure error.. >  > Any clue ? > 
 > Config and  
 > *********** , > TEST$> mc authorize show /proxy test01::*  > ( >  Default proxies are flagged with (D)  >  > test01::POPR_PENG  >     TAPESYSNP  >  > test01::SYSADM3 >     SYSADM (D)                             SYSTEM  >  >  > OPCOM message on both try. > ************************** > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  15-JUL-2004 17:58:40.89  %%%%%%%%%%%* > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on TEST01C > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on TEST01  > ) > Auditable event:          Network login 3 > Event time:               15-JUL-2004 17:58:40.88 , > PID:                      2BC1B689        , > Process name:             FAL_1421002C    , > Username:                 SYSADM          + > Process owner:            [SYS_GP,SYSADM]  > Image name:               2 > $1$DGA3035:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]LOGINOUT.EXE* > Remote nodename:          TEST            > Remote node fullname:     TEST" > Remote username:          SYSADM >  >  > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  15-JUL-2004 17:54:24.61  %%%%%%%%%%%* > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on TEST01C > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on TEST01  > 1 > Auditable event:          Network login failure 3 > Event time:               15-JUL-2004 17:54:24.61 , > PID:                      2BC00819        , > Process name:             NET$ACP         , > Username:                 DNA$SessCtrl    # > Remote node id:           0 (0.0)   > Remote node fullname:     TEST% > Remote username:          POPR_PENG A > Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOTVALID, user authorization 	 > failure  > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  15-JUL-2004 17:54:24.64  %%%%%%%%%%%$ > Message from user SYSTEM on SINA00B > Event: Access Control Violation from: Node LOCAL:.TEST01 Session
 > Control,/ >         at: 2004-07-15-17:54:24.638+08:00Iinf " >         NSAP Address=/A32583F0, ' >         Source=UIC = [0,0]POPR_PENG,  $ >         Destination=number = 140,  >         Destination User="",  " >         Destination Account="",  >         Node Name=LOCAL:.TEST 9 >         eventUid   0216E1E0-D688-11D8-AD34-53494E413030 9 >         entityUid  3E5A8860-D34E-11D8-81C2-AA0004003464 9 >         streamUid  4EC4F4B0-D34E-11D8-8294-AA0004003464  >  > -Jigs     ? Your TAPESYSNP proxy must be setup with /DEFAULT unless you are . providing login information during connection.   Tom   ( Thomas A. Jonard,  jonard@XLNsystems.com Senior Consultant, XLNsystems , XLNsystems -- VMS specialists, CharonVAX VAR   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:29:30 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> . Subject: Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers, Message-ID: <f_WdnTqkNf-dMZXcRVn-jg@igs.net>   healyzh@aracnet.com wrote:0 > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:C >> You forgot to include the delay for the Virtual PC product which = >> Microsoft purchased. (it is the Widnows emulator on MACs).  > F > Don't remind me, I have a G5 2x2, which means I have to wait for the$ > new version to be able to run VPC. > F >> However, there is only really one delay: the XP patch.  The other 2D >> products depend on it, so as long as it isn't released, the other% >> products can't be released either.  > @ > As far as can tell XP SP2 is just an excuse not to let the newC > version of VPC out the door.  Previous versions will still run on C > VPC.  MS Claims it's waiting as it wants to ship a more secure OS  > with VPC.  >  > Zane  D Who really cares about Microsoft other than to note that their delayD presents a marketing opportunity for HP to showcase a secure, stableL operating system, VMS,  to companies using Windows who are stuck waiting for MS to get their shit together.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:29:45 -0500 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>. Subject: Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers/ Message-ID: <00A358DF.6E7FE3E3.9@tachysoft.com>    >From: healyzh@aracnet.com >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms/ >Subject: Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers  >Date: 29 Jul 2004 00:54:44 GMT   J >As far as can tell XP SP2 is just an excuse not to let the new version ofL >VPC out the door.  Previous versions will still run on VPC.  MS Claims it's7 >waiting as it wants to ship a more secure OS with VPC.     L More secure?  MORE secure?  You have to be at least marginally secure beforeL you can become more secure.  Billy has absolutely no concept of an operating system even slightly secure.O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Larry(sniffing):"I smell something awful." Moe:"Yeah, well don't brag about it."   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 10:12:45 -0700. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman). Subject: Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0407290912.593c0a0d@posting.google.com>   W "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message news:<DeadnS_YNOA7jpXcRVn-qQ@igs.net>... N > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1208&e=10&u=/cmp/20040728/t > c_cmp/26100237&sid=95573650  > ) > Microsoft Delays Three Windows Upgrades  >  > Tue Jul 27, 4:00 PM ET > M > Microsoft has fallen behind schedule with the development of three upgrades K > to Windows and is pushing back the timetable for delivering the software,   > the company disclosed Tuesday.  8 What? Late software? From MS, no less? This is news? :-)  B > Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1, which had been scheduled forI > availability later this year, is now slated for the first half of 2005. H > Likewise, 64-bit "extended system" versions of Windows Server 2003 andJ > Windows XP (news - web sites) are being bumped to the first half of next > year, too. > K > Windows Server 2003 SP1 is intended to improve the security, reliability, B > and performance of Microsoft's flagship server operating system.   Yeah, yeah, yeah. :-|   K > Windows Server 2003 for 64-bit Extended Systems and Windows XP for 64-bit N > Extended Systems are designed to work on computers powered by new chips fromL > Intel and Advanced Micro Devices Inc. that have the flexibility to process" > in both 32-bit and 64-bit modes. > N > A Microsoft spokeswoman, in an E-mail message, did not give a reason for the > delay.  F So, she did not give a reason in an email message. Why the addition ofB "in an email message"? She sent an email to not give a reason? :?)  C "I'm sending this email to not give a reason for our software being  late."   > -----------------  > I > As a competitive response HP should offer Oracle or even Sybase ASE (if L > carly(tm) goes down (on one knee) and makes nice with John Chen of Sybase)J > as a packaged OpenVMS system, along with webserver, e-mail server, and a > groupware tool.  > N > Throw in a few copies of the book "Don't Worry,  Be Happy - Run OpenVMS" (to > be authored).    ------------------------------   Date: 29 Jul 2004 13:29:41 GMT/ From: Thierry Dussuet <thierry@dussuet.lugs.ch> B Subject: Re: OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 - conneting to internet via ADSL0 Message-ID: <slrncghuu6.18b.thierry@MARS.Family>  B On 2004-07-27, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote: > Thierry Dussuet wrote: > > - > > On 2004-07-26, Lars <lars@post.cz> wrote:  > > >  > > > Starlet731 wrote:  > > > > Hello Paul,  > > > > O > > > > Thank you for the information. Do you also know how the set the OpenVMS O > > > > system as gateway and how to set up the ADSL connection on it using the R > > > > Thomson Speedtouch 510 ADSL modem instead of configuring on OpenVMS how to2 > > > > reach the gateway that is on other system? > > > M > > > As you wrote in the beginning of the thread, there is no implementation N > > > of PPOE on OVMS (as far as I know). You can set up the OVMS machine as aM > > > gateway, but you'll need another machine to do the authorization, which % > > > is not what you probably want..  > > R > > AFAIK there is also no NAT solution for OpenVMS, so it wouldn't even work as a > > gateway. > J > I haven't Googled for it yet, but I seem to recall a post here some time@ > back about someone who had done NAT for VMS as freeware and/or > open-source.    # Just looked for it and found it :-) , There is a NAT Package for VAX and UCX < 5.0  7 http://tinyurl.com/49hvj (the article with its context)    Thierry    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:22:56 -0700  From: Z <z@no.spam> # Subject: Re: OpenVMS Backup Failure 0 Message-ID: <10gh5u220v8hc23@corp.supernews.com>   David J Dachtera wrote: H >> %BACKUP-F-CLOSEOUT, error closing nkb800:[]S1AP040726.BCK;0 as output2 >> %SYSTEM-F-INSFARG, insufficient call arguments.  F > That sounds familiar. Did you search Google Groups - comp.os.vms forF > that? I think that's been fixed in a somewhat recent ECO - not sure, > tho...   All I could find was this:    ) Message-id: 7v93kc$fi5$1@nnrp1.deja.com :   5  > I working with Alphaserver 8400, OpenVMS V7.1-1H2. &  > I create backup on tape by command:@  > $ backup /log dpa10:[katalog...]*.*. mka0:23_katalog.bck /sav  > I sometimes get message: <  > %BACKUP-F-CLOSEOUT, error closing MKA0:[]23_katalog.BCK;0:  > as output-SYSTEM-F-INSFARG, insufficient call arguments  # Probaly you mount the tape upfront.  Don't, let backup do this.$ This was previous reported as a bug.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 08:18:31 -07000 From: dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com (Dave Baxter)2 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station -  HSZTERM< Message-ID: <a3c44af1.0407290718.2bab34c@posting.google.com>  e David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<4108572C.96AC6A53@comcast.net>...  > > >>> & > > >>>You can find a kit for it here: > > >>> * > > >>>http://www.djesys.com/freeware/vms/5 > > >>>http://www.djesys.com/freeware/vms/hszterm.zip  > > >>> G > > >>>However, I do not assume *ANY* responsibility for the product or N > > >>>anyone's use of it. I just have the kit available for folks who want toL > > >>>try to use it. It is not supported by OpenVMS Engineering, hp Storage+ > > >>>Engineering or anyone else. Y.O.Y.O.  > > >>> 
 > > >>>D.J.D.  > > >>R > > Not only is it not supported, but AFAIK you are strongly discouraged to use itJ > > by OpenVMS engineering, since using it may result in data corruption ! > D > Careful there! See my response to Ken Fairfield in another thread. > I > The issue is not HSZTERM$SCSIPAD, per se. The issue is using one of the H > disk units as the communication channel instead of the virtual consoleJ > unit. Early HSZs and HSZ firmware did not provide a virtual console LUN;- > so, the only choice you had was a disk LUN.  > H > Current versions of HSZ and HSG firmware provide for a virtual consoleE > LUN. HSG80 firmware V8.7-7 limits non-disk-I/O communication to the % > virtual console LUN ($1$GGAxxxxx:).  > J > For what it may be worth, I've worked a number of sites that use HSZTERMD > in batch jobs to split mirror-sets nightly - with no issues. ThoseJ > procedures are still running today (some are getting to be six and seven > years old!). >  > D.J.D.  B      I'm not going to get into the "corruption" discussion, I justF want to clarify the solution for those who want to install it.     TheD link to the HSZTERM.ZIP file, given by David, is good and is easy toE download.     But note his comments earlier in the thread.  "You need  UNZIP V5.2 or later". C      My initial attempts to unzip the file failed, so I took Davids / advice and got the latest version (V5.51) from;   5 ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/unzip.zip   @      (The server will allow an "anonymous" ftp login, so you canD download directly to your vms box).    You will need a C Compiler onE your system since the code has to be compiled and linked.   (I didn't D have C compiler on my HSG-using system so I compiled the code on oneF of my old CI cluster boxes, and then copied the object files over.   ID then linked the objects on the target system and all seems well).   = With the new UNZIP file the unpacking of the HSZTERM.ZIP file 
 succeeded.B       When I ran VMSINSTAL I got an "Installation Failure" messageA however I think that was from its attempts to run the IVP.    The E HSZTERM$SCSIPAD.exe landed in SYS$SYSTEM;, The HLP file seems to have D been properly installed since the /SCSI qualifier is now in the "SETF HOST" help.    And most importantly, when I execute   $ set host /scsi6 $1$GGA8000:,   it connects straight to the controller.  D My thanks to David for his help in getting this set up on my system.   Dave Baxter.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 03:57:25 -0700$ From: gspamtackett@yahoo.com (Galen)( Subject: Re: Qt ready for OpenVMS Alpha.= Message-ID: <bdc65a53.0407290257.3d1380e0@posting.google.com>   ) So where can we download Qt-free for VMS?   e avs@ntmk.ru (Andrey Savin) wrote in message news:<1e9bf32b.0407282102.16ba10ce@posting.google.com>... = > I'm done make the port Qt-free-3.2.1 (including libs Expat, ' > Fontconfig, Freetype2, Xtf, Xrender). G > I compiled with Compaq C V6.5-001 and Compaq C V6.5-004 OpenVMS Alpha 	 > V7.3-1.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:12:39 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG( Subject: Re: Qt ready for OpenVMS Alpha.0 Message-ID: <00A358DD.0A407D58@SendSpamHere.ORG>  d In article <bdc65a53.0407290257.3d1380e0@posting.google.com>, gspamtackett@yahoo.com (Galen) writes:* >So where can we download Qt-free for VMS? > f >avs@ntmk.ru (Andrey Savin) wrote in message news:<1e9bf32b.0407282102.16ba10ce@posting.google.com>...> >> I'm done make the port Qt-free-3.2.1 (including libs Expat,( >> Fontconfig, Freetype2, Xtf, Xrender).H >> I compiled with Compaq C V6.5-001 and Compaq C V6.5-004 OpenVMS Alpha
 >> V7.3-1.    
 What is Qt?    --  < http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:33:46 -0500 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>( Subject: Re: Qt ready for OpenVMS Alpha.D Message-ID: <craigberry-EF40FE.09334629072004@news.isp.giganews.com>  0 In article <00A358DD.0A407D58@SendSpamHere.ORG>,"  VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:   > What is Qt?     * It's a C++ GUI development framework.  See  < http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/product_desktop.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:41:24 -0700 - From: Kaleb Pederson <kpederson@mail.ewu.edu> ( Subject: Re: Qt ready for OpenVMS Alpha.7 Message-ID: <200407290741.24510.kpederson@mail.ewu.edu>   A On Thursday 29 July 2004 7:12 am, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: @ > In article <bdc65a53.0407290257.3d1380e0@posting.google.com>, & gspamtackett@yahoo.com (Galen) writes:, > >So where can we download Qt-free for VMS? > 
 > What is Qt?   N Qt is a *very* nice cross platform C++ GUI toolkit.  It runs on most Unicies, M Windows, and Macintosh OS X.  There are also bindings for Python so that you  M can develop Cross platform applications.  It is free, other than on windows,  L if you are developing a non-commercial product.  There are two free Windows L versions, the newest of which is only available if you purchase a copy of a , book that included a special license for it.  3 See http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/index.html    --Kaleb    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:45:19 +0100 5 From: "Robert A.M. van Lopik" <lopik@mail.telepac.pt> , Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?* Message-ID: <2mrs21Fpd05cU1@uni-berlin.de>  @ "Undisclosed" <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> wrote in message* news:j8Gdna90sbS1GJXcRVn-pQ@comcast.com... > Dan Foster wrote:  > @ > > In article <41085F49.90E0C9DA@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote: > >l# > >>OVMS CDs are ODS, not ISO-9660.  > >o > >r8 > > Ah, yes, right you are. A slip of the mind / tongue. > >nL > > At least one PC-based CD burning software strenously objected to burningJ > > an ODS-2 based image to CD, so had to use cdrecord under Linux to burnK > > my CD. Epitome of silliness, but that were the machinations required toN# > > get the VMS machines installed.P > >h > > -Dan >hI > I wonder if the exact CD copy style software under Windows could handlev ODS. >sC > not much point in trying that when you can just use cdrecord or aH > frontend, though.sL Well, you do need an ISO-image of the ODS-VMS-CD. And no, at least Winimage,K that I succesfully used to make an ISO-image of an Windows2000 distributione< CD (for use with Microsoft's VirtualPC), chokes on a VMS CD.  8 To boot simh I used an alternative method, described in: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=simh+group:comp.os.vms&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&selm=3CDC3435.5119912F%40oracle.com&rnum=4L which also works on Windows. The method uses the LD-driver from the freewareJ CD to create a virtual disk file on a VMS system, then does a backup/imageH of the distribution CD to the disk image and FTP's the disk image to theK target simh-system. where it can be simply attached to the simulator. Works K great, but of course you need acces to a real VMS system in the first places :-)    Hthe
 rob van lopikM   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 07:53:20 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)f, Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?3 Message-ID: <WQprS4ccPr7C@eisner.encompasserve.org>f  f In article <OomdnUlFAI_8hJXcRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> writes: > what's the deal on this? > I > just get SIMH, put it on my Linux box, apply to Encompass, pay $30 for -> > the VAX CD's, then run OpenVMS on my nice new simulated VAX? >  > that simple?  D     Look around for hints on setting up and running SIMH, that's the    only "hard" part.   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Jul 2004 13:19:47 GMT/ From: Thierry Dussuet <thierry@dussuet.lugs.ch>>, Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?0 Message-ID: <slrncghubj.18b.thierry@MARS.Family>   Hello!  C On 2004-07-29, Robert A.M. van Lopik <lopik@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:o > B > "Undisclosed" <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> wrote in message, > news:j8Gdna90sbS1GJXcRVn-pQ@comcast.com... > > Dan Foster wrote:- > > B > > > In article <41085F49.90E0C9DA@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera( > > > <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote: > > >4' > > > > OVMS CDs are ODS, not ISO-9660.i > > >t: > > > Ah, yes, right you are. A slip of the mind / tongue. > > > N > > > At least one PC-based CD burning software strenously objected to burningO > > > an ODS-2 based image to CD, so had to use cdrecord under Linux to burn my N > > > CD. Epitome of silliness, but that were the machinations required to get! > > > the VMS machines installed.t > > K > > I wonder if the exact CD copy style software under Windows could handle  > > ODS. > >pO > > not much point in trying that when you can just use cdrecord or a frontend,. > > though.i > 9 > Well, you do need an ISO-image of the ODS-VMS-CD. [...]5  < The ISO-9660 format would even have version support IIRC :-)   Thierrya   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:19:18 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>, Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?@ Message-ID: <4108f957$0$301$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>   Bob Koehler wrote:h > In article <OomdnUlFAI_8hJXcRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> writes: >  >>what's the deal on this? >>I >>just get SIMH, put it on my Linux box, apply to Encompass, pay $30 for n> >>the VAX CD's, then run OpenVMS on my nice new simulated VAX? >> >>that simple? >  > F >     Look around for hints on setting up and running SIMH, that's the >    only "hard" part. >   6 Here are a few links I've collected concerning SIMH...  * SIMH - Computer History Simulation Project http://simh.trailing-edge.com/  ' SIMH 2.9-6/VAX + VMS configuration infoah http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=E1F73441CC409FD2.D7B3B18795A42B54.50D65134C752B46F%40lp.airnews.net  K SIMH installation with LD Tool and other pointers - Norm Lastovica - GoogleaC http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CDC3435.5119912F%40oracle.comr   simh/VAX - Win32 binariesv$ http://www.tubas.net/~kstailey/simh/   HOWTO Install VAX/VMS on SimHt. http://anachronda.homeunix.com:8000/howto.html  - Installing ULTRIX/VAX V4.5 on SIMH/VAX V3.0-2/9 http://www.xanthosmicrosystems.com/~joachim/simh-vax.html   , simh-32-0-makefile_vc.txt - Martin VorlnderA http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/simh-32-0-makefile_vc.txtl  4 SIMH/VAX 2.10-2 Win32 Binaries with Ethernet Support~ http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.os.vms&selm=c5cf6e8.0302080536.74c972b0%40posting.google.com   VAX/VMS on Linux using SIMHh: http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html  B VMS on a simh VAX simulator, how do I get TCP/IP to work? - GoogleN http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2003.09.22.13.43.47.392582%40goth.net     Cheers!d   Keith Cayembergo. IBM Business Services GmbH - Hannover, Germany   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:48:48 +0100c- From: John Laird <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk>t, Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?8 Message-ID: <1svhg0lsu6lebhvhq9q30griq8jrgenl92@4ax.com>  / On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:03:30 -0400, Undisclosedr( <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> wrote:  M >I wonder if the exact CD copy style software under Windows could handle ODS.   G Windows has CD writing software ?!  I certainly wouldn't look in native D explorer stuff for capabilities like disk copying.  I think the diskL duplicating in WinOnCd and Plextools have both successfully copied ODS disksH for me in the past (purely for security/backup purposes of course).  AllL they need to do is copy the single track.  Delving into the structure within is likely to lead to problems.   -- l; I'm in a phone booth at the corner of Walk and Don't Walk.     Mail john rather than nospam...e   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:10:24 +0200E- From: "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de>e, Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?* Message-ID: <2mseqgFp61jjU1@uni-berlin.de>  5 "Keith Cayemberg" <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> wrote...e8 > Here are a few links I've collected concerning SIMH... ...t. > simh-32-0-makefile_vc.txt - Martin VorlnderC > http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/simh-32-0-makefile_vc.txt1  A Thanks for reminding me; I've wanted to update this to the latestf version:A http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/simh-32-2-makefile_vc.txt.  D > VMS on a simh VAX simulator, how do I get TCP/IP to work? - Google >eN http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2003.09.22.13.43.47.392582%40goth.net  D This is a rather old link. I've got it working with the libpcap code" using only the taptap program; seeK http://www.itsecuritygeek.com/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=2   6 I even have a DECwindows login screen on my laptop ;-)   cu,/   Martin -- qB    Emacs would be a great   | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules!5    operating system,        | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de H    if only it came with     |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/<    a decent editor...       | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:14:36 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>e, Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?8 Message-ID: <sg1ig0l4ijhnj0skj4evgr36ds06agf4i4@4ax.com>  K On 29 Jul 2004 07:53:20 -0500, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob@ Koehler) wrote:J  g >In article <OomdnUlFAI_8hJXcRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> writes:e >> what's the deal on this?i >>  J >> just get SIMH, put it on my Linux box, apply to Encompass, pay $30 for ? >> the VAX CD's, then run OpenVMS on my nice new simulated VAX?e >> e >> that simple?2 >FE >    Look around for hints on setting up and running SIMH, that's thea >   only "hard" part.n  & I just found a pretty good How-To here; http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html p   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:14:45 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG, Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?0 Message-ID: <00A358DD.556F8B0A@SendSpamHere.ORG>  s In article <4108f957$0$301$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>, Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> writes:r >Bob Koehler wrote:Ei >> In article <OomdnUlFAI_8hJXcRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> writes:e >> n >>>what's the deal on this?s >>> J >>>just get SIMH, put it on my Linux box, apply to Encompass, pay $30 for ? >>>the VAX CD's, then run OpenVMS on my nice new simulated VAX?y >>>  >>>that simple?  >> a >> nG >>     Look around for hints on setting up and running SIMH, that's thee >>    only "hard" part.D >> r > 7 >Here are a few links I've collected concerning SIMH...s >v+ >SIMH - Computer History Simulation Project  >http://simh.trailing-edge.com/t >s( >SIMH 2.9-6/VAX + VMS configuration infoi >http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=E1F73441CC409FD2.D7B3B18795A42B54.50D65134C752B46F%40lp.airnews.neti >sL >SIMH installation with LD Tool and other pointers - Norm Lastovica - GoogleD >http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CDC3435.5119912F%40oracle.com >2 >simh/VAX - Win32 binaries% >http://www.tubas.net/~kstailey/simh/  >a >HOWTO Install VAX/VMS on SimH/ >http://anachronda.homeunix.com:8000/howto.htmls > . >Installing ULTRIX/VAX V4.5 on SIMH/VAX V3.0-2: >http://www.xanthosmicrosystems.com/~joachim/simh-vax.html >t- >simh-32-0-makefile_vc.txt - Martin VorlnderoB >http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/simh-32-0-makefile_vc.txt >e5 >SIMH/VAX 2.10-2 Win32 Binaries with Ethernet Supportu >http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.os.vms&selm=c5cf6e8.0302080536.74c972b0%40posting.google.come >e >VAX/VMS on Linux using SIMH; >http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html. >hC >VMS on a simh VAX simulator, how do I get TCP/IP to work? - Google O >http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2003.09.22.13.43.47.392582%40goth.neta >  >J >Cheers! >: >Keith Cayemberg/ >IBM Business Services GmbH - Hannover, Germany:  L Nice.  How about a version of SimH VAX running on a Powerbook G4 OS X 10.3.*/ with ethernet and, if possible, CDrom access???o   -- e< http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  -- a, Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   -- bK VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 07:25:44 -0700( From: tjonard@usa.net (Thomas A. Jonard), Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?< Message-ID: <3ad0fd0.0407290625.3d64b8c1@posting.google.com>  g "Robert A.M. van Lopik" <lopik@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message news:<2mrs21Fpd05cU1@uni-berlin.de>...tB > "Undisclosed" <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> wrote in message, > news:j8Gdna90sbS1GJXcRVn-pQ@comcast.com... > > Dan Foster wrote:n > > B > > > In article <41085F49.90E0C9DA@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera% >  <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote:n > > >d% > > >>OVMS CDs are ODS, not ISO-9660.r > > >  > > >t: > > > Ah, yes, right you are. A slip of the mind / tongue. > > >-N > > > At least one PC-based CD burning software strenously objected to burningL > > > an ODS-2 based image to CD, so had to use cdrecord under Linux to burnM > > > my CD. Epitome of silliness, but that were the machinations required toe% > > > get the VMS machines installed.E > > >0
 > > > -Dan > >IK > > I wonder if the exact CD copy style software under Windows could handlec >  ODS.t > >bE > > not much point in trying that when you can just use cdrecord or a  > > frontend, though.C  E Yes, something like CloneCD will produce a usable copy of an ODS-2 CD $ (done that).  Nero may work as well.   Tomr  ( Thomas A. Jonard,  jonard@XLNsystems.com Senior Consultant, XLNsystemsn, XLNsystems -- VMS specialists, CharonVAX VAR   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 07:27:51 -0700( From: tjonard@usa.net (Thomas A. Jonard), Subject: Re: Running VMS on a simulated VAX?< Message-ID: <3ad0fd0.0407290627.52af3704@posting.google.com>  k Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> wrote in message news:<OomdnUlFAI_8hJXcRVn-vA@comcast.com>...e > what's the deal on this? > I > just get SIMH, put it on my Linux box, apply to Encompass, pay $30 for p> > the VAX CD's, then run OpenVMS on my nice new simulated VAX? >  > that simple?  B Yes.  And SIMH is great for a hobbyist.  If you want a more robustE system for a business use you might want to look at CharonVAX though.a   Tom   ( Thomas A. Jonard,  jonard@XLNsystems.com Senior Consultant, XLNsystemss, XLNsystems -- VMS specialists, CharonVAX VAR   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:01:44 +0200d2 From: "Lars Holmstrm" <lars.holmstrom@flysta.net> Subject: SSH proxy for X, Message-ID: <cea3su$2pso$1@news.utel.net.ua>  I Does any one have got a SSH tunnelleing of X-traffic working using the HP4 based SSH for OpenVMS ?h> I have used Process Softwares SSHproduct for this in the past.   /Lars    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:54:03 GMTn" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: SSH proxy for X0 Message-ID: <00A358C1.4C1D7700@SendSpamHere.ORG>  a In article <cea3su$2pso$1@news.utel.net.ua>, "Lars Holmstrm" <lars.holmstrom@flysta.net> writes: J >Does any one have got a SSH tunnelleing of X-traffic working using the HP >based SSH for OpenVMS ?  + It currently doesn't support that fucntion.I    ? >I have used Process Softwares SSHproduct for this in the past.   < Then you'll need to continue its use if ssh -X is necessary.   -- aB http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.i --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMb            i5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" c   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:04:08 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>h1 Subject: Re: StorageWorks EVA to Windows Questiont: Message-ID: <c6aOc.331$OK5.262@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>   Hal Kuff wrote: M > Rather than run Securepath per se, we're intertested in using a rack switchpN > (maxann, San valley?) to present EVA storage to the Windows boxes... that isM > to say present 1TB of raw storage to the fibre channel switch and have thathI > small switch with its internal 8 port swicth present the storage to thed= > individual Windows boxes... anyone doing this? Or know how?u >  >   O Hal, are you thinking that the maxann/San Valley stuff will then subdivide the iQ 1TB LUN for each Wintel box?  I have not seen those two boxes, but, my gut tells  P me that would be a big risk -- how are you going to ensure that the 1TB LUN can Q be restored intact?  I would say that it is not likely that would ever become an  L issue, but I have seen an entire shelf go belly-up.  I can see that you are N trying to drive down cost because SecurePath - as they say - ain't cheap, but Q cheap is a relative term when dealing with potential downtime and recovery cost. .C (maybe business copy to another EVA in another location would help)u   --   Michael Austin.l Consultant - Available.d@ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:12:44 +0100T& From: Nic Clews <spamthis@[127.0.0.1]>< Subject: Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow' Message-ID: <cea803$ipv$1@lore.csc.com>s   Undisclosed wrote: > Nic Clews wrote: ...iI > I personally know nobody on this list, and nobody knows me, so my name   > is mostly irrelevant.o > H > no offense, but I have no idea who Nic Clewes is, and for all intents H > and purposes you are pseudonymous to me, as most people on Usenet are. ... / > I'm just passing on info and trying to learn.   H Welcome to the list, we always welcome those who wish to learn. But the  subject you posted with is:O  3 Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow    Which is pretty implicit.   H The real issue is many too many don't actually understand what they are D dealing with, so does the buffer overflow happen in kernel mode (or @ other privileged mode) which ends up on the stack for potential G execution, or the other myriad of holes that this brave new technology :% for our connected world is giving us.   I Looking at the subject line, would someone really want to delve into the  < difference between buffer and stack overflows, do they care?  G I post under my real name, that is who I am, unless I'm parking a car. YH People approach me privately, and I'm thicker skinned to realise that I F take spam for what it is. One or two here have reason to post without E their real identities, and indeed some people post here that haven't  > frankly thought about what they are doing without withholding 2 information. I'm a real person using real systems.  A I've taken no offence, and hope you've not, but just be a little lI sensitive to the audience, they may not have the understanding you have, LD it's no reason for them not to be here. Headlines starting "Time to C patch OpenVMS" is hardly accurate, and dangerous to the uninformed.   A Here's a scenario: CEO reads a headline and phones the technical  G department, demanding that all OpenVMS servers are immediately patched  C because they are vulnerable. I suspect that career wise you've not  2 really had much to do with the PHB's of the world. -- %E Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. Car Park Charges, CSC Computer Scienceso nclews at csc dot comT   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 01:46:05 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) < Subject: Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow3 Message-ID: <sy0q5RmDkpye@eisner.encompasserve.org>   f In article <j8Gdnax0sbQdGZXcRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> writes:   > A > incidental question - why does DCL not do tab-completion style  H > completion? I would have thought it would have been a perfect fit for K > VMS, given that command names are longer than Unix.. that's great from a dG > newbie scrutability standpoint, but it gets annoying when you try to n > type things fast.e > K > I know that typing abbreviations works (e.g. DIR for DIRECTORY), but I'd -K > like to be sure that what I'm about to hit "Enter" on is the right thing.J  9 	Commands in DCL require at *most* 4 characters.  Here ish 	a convoluted example:     $ show timeM   29-JUL-2004 01:30:56
 $ rec show> %DCL-W-ABVERB, ambiguous command verb - supply more characters  \REC\ $ reca showu $ show timef   29-JUL-2004 01:31:11
 $ recall showc $ show times   29-JUL-2004 01:31:18   	rec is ambiguous because:  
 $ help rec     RECALL    E      Displays up to 254 previously entered commands on the screen for.      subsequent execution.        Formatd  "        RECALL  [command-specifier]    t      #   Additional information available:a     Parameter  Qualifiers 3   /ALL       /ERASE     /INPUT     /OUTPUT    /PAGEX
   Examples     RECOVERo   	[snip]e  7 	There are two commands that start with rec, recall andl8 	recover.  So some of us to recall commands and not have4 	to type "reca" all the time have things like this:    	$ re*call :== recallM   	in our login.com  (.profile)t    	Here is where it gets muddy...    $ r find_prime        0 Enter number to search backwards from:  10034442 10034441 is a prime number.s   (0 seconds elapsed time)4 $ show sym r*  ! "r" by itself is not a symbol/alias&   RUP*TIME == "$SYS$TOOLS:RUPTIME.EXE"   RWHO == "$SYS$TOOLS:RWHO.EXE"h $ run find_prime2 Enter number to search backwards from:  1000311332 1000311329 is a prime number.t   (0 seconds elapsed time)  : 	DCL has "r" hard-coded to run.  There are some short cutsA 	built into DCL.  Now remember, I said at *most* you have to typea 	4 characters.  = 	As far as autocompletion goes?  And guarding against badnesse4 	or making sure you are running the right command...   	Well... we might be driftingt? 	towards an OS skirmish... but anywho... there really are a few?= 	commands that are dangerous in an OS.  Delete is one of themo0 	in VMS.  But delete has it's own unique syntax.   $ delete l.l? %DELETE-E-DELVER, explicit version number or wild card required= $ delete l.l;/log=N %DELETE-I-FILDEL, EISNER$DRA3:[DECUSERVE_USER.YOUNG_R]L.L;1 deleted (3 blocks)  B 	You have to put a semi-colon on the end.  Not sure the usefulness 	of auto-complete in DCL.=   				Rob=   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:36:23 -0400:3 From: Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> < Subject: Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow0 Message-ID: <lo6dnVJshu-jfJXc4p2dnA@comcast.com>   Nic Clews wrote:   > Undisclosed wrote: >  >> Nic Clews wrote:s >  > ...9 > J >> I personally know nobody on this list, and nobody knows me, so my name  >> is mostly irrelevant. >>I >> no offense, but I have no idea who Nic Clewes is, and for all intents &I >> and purposes you are pseudonymous to me, as most people on Usenet are.r >  > ...s > 0 >> I'm just passing on info and trying to learn. >  > J > Welcome to the list, we always welcome those who wish to learn. But the  > subject you posted with is:a > 5 > Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflown >  > Which is pretty implicit.e > J > The real issue is many too many don't actually understand what they are F > dealing with, so does the buffer overflow happen in kernel mode (or B > other privileged mode) which ends up on the stack for potential I > execution, or the other myriad of holes that this brave new technology t' > for our connected world is giving us.  > K > Looking at the subject line, would someone really want to delve into the r> > difference between buffer and stack overflows, do they care?  D you're making a decent point... I forget that I am a security freak 
 sometimes.  I > I post under my real name, that is who I am, unless I'm parking a car.  J > People approach me privately, and I'm thicker skinned to realise that I H > take spam for what it is. One or two here have reason to post without G > their real identities, and indeed some people post here that haven't g@ > frankly thought about what they are doing without withholding 4 > information. I'm a real person using real systems. > C > I've taken no offence, and hope you've not, but just be a little  K > sensitive to the audience, they may not have the understanding you have, -F > it's no reason for them not to be here. Headlines starting "Time to E > patch OpenVMS" is hardly accurate, and dangerous to the uninformed.o > C > Here's a scenario: CEO reads a headline and phones the technical  I > department, demanding that all OpenVMS servers are immediately patched eE > because they are vulnerable. I suspect that career wise you've not -4 > really had much to do with the PHB's of the world.  > I take your point. I apologize for coming off a little strong.  7 but the specific example - CEO's reading newsgroups? ;)L  E I guess some may take Slashdot with their morning coffee, so why not d	 c.o.v? ;)    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:54:05 +01002& From: Nic Clews <spamthis@[127.0.0.1]>< Subject: Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow' Message-ID: <ceavgi$ppe$1@lore.csc.com>.   Undisclosed wrote:   > Nic Clews wrote: >   F > you're making a decent point... I forget that I am a security freak  > sometimes.  E And that is good. Even with VMS there's no room for complacency. The  I best way to break into a VMS system is with a bulldozer. i.e. break down oI the physical computer room wall and get to the console, but that doesn't O mean it's the only way in.  D >> Here's a scenario: CEO reads a headline and phones the technical J >> department, demanding that all OpenVMS servers are immediately patched F >> because they are vulnerable. I suspect that career wise you've not 5 >> really had much to do with the PHB's of the world.e >  > 9 > but the specific example - CEO's reading newsgroups? ;)   F I can't really be more specific in this forum, however apart from the D Chinese whispers effect of tales getting distorted, I'm aware of an E example where someone was receiving the patch notifications from the i? OpenVMS patch mailing list, and filing these in their security e? notifications database. A little education was required of the :E difference between the mains reasons that Compaq/HP issued operating w7 system patches, and those of the Redmond based company.,  G > I guess some may take Slashdot with their morning coffee, so why not n > c.o.v? ;)l  H Well the writers of articles do from time to time look what's going on, I the rumble in the jungle from newsgroups, and today's inaccurate rumours t  could end up as published items.  ! Security freak is good though :-)f -- nE Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. Car Park Charges, CSC Computer Sciences2 nclews at csc dot como   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 07:47:42 -0700( From: tjonard@usa.net (Thomas A. Jonard)< Subject: Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow< Message-ID: <3ad0fd0.0407290647.271d5c31@posting.google.com>   >... lA > incidental question - why does DCL not do tab-completion style sH > completion? I would have thought it would have been a perfect fit for K > VMS, given that command names are longer than Unix.. that's great from a uG > newbie scrutability standpoint, but it gets annoying when you try to 4 > type things fast.i > K > I know that typing abbreviations works (e.g. DIR for DIRECTORY), but I'd eK > like to be sure that what I'm about to hit "Enter" on is the right thing.o  C One of the things I like about VMS is that it has a dynamic command>> abbreviation length -- you only need to type enough letters toD distinguish your command from the other commands that begin the sameD way -- not always 3 or 4 or even 2.  For instance it used to be that< UNLOCK was the only command that began with U so it could beF abreviated to U.  Since the command list has expanded I can't think of% a command you can do this with today.o  E One consequence is that once the CLI has found the unique sequence it B ignores the rest.  I have entered misspelled commands (typos) thatD still worked because of this because the error was beyond the unique	 sequence.a  C I always figure the system will tell me if my command is wrong in aoD few milliseconds and with command recall you can easily fix problemsF inline.  I suppose its all about what you want based on what your used to.   9 Tom (We don't need no stinking command completion) Jonard   ( Thomas A. Jonard,  jonard@XLNsystems.com Senior Consultant, XLNsystemse, XLNsystems -- VMS specialists, CharonVAX VAR   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Jul 2004 16:45:56 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)< Subject: Re: Time to patch OpenVMS - DCE-RPC buffer overflow* Message-ID: <2msnu4Fr2bqgU1@uni-berlin.de>  3 In article <In44ZZ49ywAY@eisner.encompasserve.org>,g> 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:c > In article <sy0q5RmDkpye@eisner.encompasserve.org>, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes:w >> o< >> 	Commands in DCL require at *most* 4 characters.  Here is >> 	a convoluted example:o > G >    While that is currently true, the release notes (from 6.0 I think)IA >    remind us that it might change in the future.  For long termeD >    reliability one should write DCL command file using full verbs. > C >    And even if it stays at 4, particualr abreviations may not.  IeB >    once had to update a ton of .COM files from $F/L (VMS 2.5) to >    $FORTRAN/LIST (VMS 3.0).l >    aF >    An in your example, I had to get used to "reca" interactively at H >    5.0 after years of "rec" under VMS 4.  Then I installed Lotus NotesG >    back before "lo" was added as a defined alias for logout and spento) >    a couple years having to type "log".r >   @ I could be mistaken :-) but I thought the original idea was thatB you needed to only type as much of a verb as it took to be unique. For example:/   given the commands DELETE, DIRECTORY and DIALs   DE would be enough for DELETE.&   but DIA would be necessary for DIAL    and DIR for DIRECTORY   E In your case above, I would look to see if there was a new verb addedi$ at 5.0 that also started with "REC".   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   0   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2004 07:09:53 -0700. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso)& Subject: Re: US Government IT spending= Message-ID: <f30679fb.0407290609.50ed6fd1@posting.google.com>w  a JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:<4107DA21.60D255CE@teksavvy.com>...Q > from a news.com snippet: >  > ##L > Information technology-related contracts awarded by the federal government< > jumped to over $23 billion in the second quarter of 2004.  > ...-J > data on the government market. Federal government IT awards for the same) > period last year totaled $15.5 billion.n > ..M > The upswing was fueled by a $10 billion contract for setting up the Visitor0H > and Immigration Status Indication Technology System (US-Visit) for the# > Department of Homeland Security. e > ## >  > < > Who benefits from these vasts sums of money being spent ?   D Not me ! I am abroad ! :-)  The lobbist+gov.CIOs are making money ! = If not directly, thsee guys can move from Gov. to the Privatet	 companies.F in the near future as CEOs and have their stock options ! Same here in Brazil !$ Corruption is a worldwide disease !   F >How much of the  piece of the pie if HP getting ? are there large VMS sales in sight ?  A OpenVMS is money-saver, so why buy OpenVMS systems if you can buyzE Windows+Unix systems and a lot of complimentary products (BMC/CA/IBM)f to manage them ?    []s  
 Fabio Cardosof   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:04:37 +0200-- From: "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de> X Subject: Re: [TCPware, V73_MGMTAGENTS] Does anyone have a working installation running ?* Message-ID: <2ms7etFpn5c4U1@uni-berlin.de>  ; "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote...D1 > "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de> writes:rG > >Same here. On the summary page: contact information and location all E > >show "N/A". The WBEM logfiles and the TCPware SNMP log files don't < > >show errors. I'll try to get that information by snmpget. > / > What summary page ? https://localhost:2381/ ?e  J That's "Device Home", the page where you select the "hp Insight ManagementC Agents for OpenVMS". The summary page is the one that pops up next.n  F > I found a warning in SYS$SPECIFIC:[WBEM.AGENTS.LOGS]CPQTHRESHOLD.LOGL > 28-JUL-2004 08:34:42.75 WARNING CPQTHRESHOLDMGMT_PERSIST.C line 368: error) opening sys$system:ucx$mgt_thresholds.dattL > 28-JUL-2004 08:34:43.37 WARNING CPQTHRESHOLDMGMT_PERSIST.C line 133: error- linking sys$system:ucx$mgt_thresholds.dat and ! sys$system:ucx$mgt_thresholds.baku  > Yup. Same here. I suspect that's why thresholds wouldn't work.  E > >> >Funny enough: the thresholds don't work with TCP/IP Services ona > >> >that machine either. > >>G > >> I don't know what you mean with thresholds, but I do see no betteraH > >> behaviour with TCPIP, too. That's why I wanted to try the CIM, too. > >tK > >When it works, there are small triangles on the "File System Space Used"uI > >and "CPU Utilization" pages above each disk/CPU bar denoting a warningt% > >(yellow) and critical (red) level.a > @ > Where ? I have "Refresh" "Device Home" "Options" and "Logout". > Or do you mean in the CIM ?m  J After you've selected "Insight Agent" from "Device home", the frame in theL lower left has selections for "File System Space Used" and "CPU Utilization" (besides others).a    B Breaking News: I've got it working!!!  (except for the thresholds)   The last two things I did:L - Selected "Options", and in the section "Trust Mode", switched from "Secure- Trust Modes" to "Trust All" (just testing...)bE - In TCPWARE:SNMPD.CONF, added "community public 127.0.0.1 READ-ONLY".0 (and commented out all other community settings.< - Stopped everything and started HR_MIB, TCPware SNMP, WBEM.   cu,n   Martin -- rA                            | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules!D4 Microsoft isn't the Borg:  | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deK the Borg have proper       |       http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/o; networking.                | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.del   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.417 ************************